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Well, that's true as we will not be getting to see one word posts which newbies used to do earlier to climb up the ladder of ranking system as they have to earn their merits with useful posts or services in order to grow. I appreciate your post as being a newbie you have posted this, If you looks around the forum there are many newbie are earning merits with their posts which helps the forum.

You only need 1 merit to reach Jr member. If people are having troubles earning that 1 merit, then it's very likely that they don't deserve to rank up in the first place. Also, it doesn't necessarily make ranking up longer. It just completely depends on how much effort a user is willing to exert on making their posts. Remember, we have a couple of users here with merits that are 2-3x their activity points.

Nothing new under the sun here. This has been going on for quite some time, and discussed with extensity.

Seeing that your account woke up recently after a long hibernation period, you may find it interesting to read this thread:  Bitcointalk's historical important changes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186820.msg52532721#msg52532721). It covers both recent changes on the forum and older ones, helping to get up to speed.

You are not a true newbie because your account created in August of 2017, but you stopped posting around one month before the birthday of the merit system, and you woke up today.

Anyway, as you can read from above replies, you have to receive only a single merit from your good post to rank up. It is not too difficult, in my opinion and from my time since the birthday of the merit system.

I appreciate the merit system, which is a new step for the forum. Previously people only needed to post enough articles and enough time they would rank up. Currently, if the accounts want to increase their rank, they need to contribute to the forum and to everyone. That will limit spam and alt accounts. As you can see, there are a lot of accounts with hundreds of posts right now, but they are still ranked newbie or jr.member

The problem with the merit system is that most people are selfish and only here from themselves and spam anyway. If they didn't spam they would be able to pay enough attention to award people with merits. I wonder how many accounts sit with tons of merits. I have no merits left since I spend them all as I should. Noone should have any merits. They are there to give out not to horde. Unfortunately, not everyone has this mentality and that is why the merit system fails. Only popular people will get the most merits and only topic started to get merits. If you do not like to start topics you will never rank up. It just gives more power to the elites. If you don't believe me go and look at the top merit receivers.

For example, look at me. I only have a measly 25 merits. I will never become legendary. You have to seriously kiss ass and suck up and make a ton of topics based on anything you think will be popular at the time.
Hell, I have seen people get a few merit points just for a one-liner. They did deserve it but they only were chosen because they are popular here.

All that has happened is that now instead of people posting mass for post count they are posting huge massive topics for the sole reason of getting merits. It's solved nothing.

BTCWigs, I check your post history to see do you have any good post/s from a time when you were active on the forum, but unfortunately, in my opinion, there is nothing worth rewarding with merit. If you want to advance in the forum (in terms of ranking), you need to change the way you communicate in this forum by investing some time in writing useful & quality posts.

The best way to do this is to take a few examples of members who have managed to get several hundred or even thousands of merits. See their post history to learn where and how to post. 1 merit to become Jr. Member is a very easy task, the same as 10 merits to become Member.

More time you say? It's just one merit fella, that can be gotten almost immediately one registers on the forum and writes something that has an idea in it, that is more than enough to get one merit.

Don't get me wrong, I know it sure is as hell very difficult for many newbies, you can imagine it will, when everything they say is as good as "not useful" "said a million times already" "Spam" etc, yeah, it's hard for those sort of users.
Are you in that category OP?  ;)

I missed this kind of post, they were quite popular back then when the merit system was first introduced. Back then I was a newbie too and so the other members here. some of them became a Hero from Zero merit and some others manage to rank up, of course with their hard work. as for me, I didn't expect to get up to this far. I'm very thankful for all of the users who support me from day 1, yesterday I got my 300th merits. Just imagine I only got limited knowledge about the English language and manage to get up to this far, if it's possible for me, it will be possible for you too.

...the newer merit system means one now has to make an effort at quality posting before being able to wear a signature or personal text, and earn from the forum.
A newbie will normally take 28 days to have enough activity to become a jr member, this is enough time frame to earn at least one merit

Do you have any proof/data for this?

Think about it. Maybe, just maybe, they actually make good content hence why they're the top merit receivers? This is pretty much the newbie/jrmember argument again.

Well, I've only made a few topics throughout the years, and I've received 600+ merits from topic replies(probably around 85%+) rather than spam creating topics.

A lot of your posts are just one-liners and not really informative. If you can improve and add more value to your next posts, you can get merit faster and rank up.

Welcome back btw.

You already mentioned about the main reason why merit system had been created.It isnt really that long or does require too much time for you to stay up for this rank newbie to jr member does only need 1 merit + 30 activity points then 10 merits for member and so on.

You wouldnt find this as a problem if you do just try your best to post up meaningful things in forum and then merits would come along the way.

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Any decent poster will reach Jr Member in couple of months at the most, and anyone that fails in achieving that is seriously dedicated to one-liners and shitposting, and system is designed exactly for that reason- to prevent those kind of users achieving higher ranks.

By the look of your post history, you fall in that group, writing one-liners with minimum effort, so no wonder you are still stuck at newbie rank. Once again merit system proves working in your case, as unless you change your posting habits you will stay at low rank for quite some time.

You do not have to write full paragraph and essay to get merits.  Half of mine posts are one liners because i do not have much to say but what i say is relevant. That's why i am able to get the merits.

The merit system is a life safer, the forum is now free of roaring spammers and now to rank up you have to work for it by posting reasonable posts and avoid plagiarism

Oh
Can, please someone tell me, what need to do, to get new rank?
Im sorry if someone already ask it, just want to know

This is only 1 what we need to increase rank?
And what about next ranks?  ???

You are your own worst enemy. I just quickly browsed through your post history and a large amount of your posts are in sections like Micro earnings and Alt coin sections where people do not want to give merit points for posts that are done there. Serious merit providers do not hang around in Micro earning sections to look for posts that could earn merit points.  ::)

Also, once people see a signature attached to your account, they almost instantly associate you with being a shit poster. Take a tip from a fool, remove that signature and post constructively and you will get a lot more merit points.  ;)

I will just repeat what they always say here to the newbies who are asking things like this regarding merits.
Just make constructive and helpful posts and you will get merit.

To be a member you need 10, Full member = 100, Sr. Member = 250, Hero Member = 500 and Legendary = 1000.
Sounds hard right ;) then you will remain as a newbie or probably a Jr. Member and accept it.

This represents the number of accounts that have ranked-up, needing merits to do so (Data as of 25/10/2019):

https://i.imgur.com/nQqZGIS.png

The top chart represents all time data. It shows that 15.012 accounts ranked-up via merits. It displays the initial rank at the time of the introduction of the Merit System (rows) and they rank they moved on to (columns).

For example, 3.532 Newbies have so far made it to Member rank via merits. 26 Legendries required merits to reach their rank: 22 were Hero Members at the time of the Merit System kick-off, 3 Sr. Members, and 1 Full Member.

The second part of the chart narrows down the accounts to those created during 2019. The maximum expectancy in these 10 months would be to reach Sr. member (240 Activity alongside 250 earned Merits), and it seems that there is only one account to have managed that feat (it depends on the moment the account started posting within the year too). Nevertheless, 586 accounts created this year have managed to rank-up, albeit the vast majority to Jr. Member.

Overall, getting to Jr. Member is not really difficult. It’s surpassing the Member rank where most people struggle.

You can follow this thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.msg28250551#msg28250551. Where it has clearly mentioned about the merits and activity so that you can get some idea that what should you follow while posting.

Why do you ask me If I need proof when you know most users here are selfish. Just look at the bounty scene. Most of those people don't even know what they are supporting. I don't need proof or data since it is already there. Why must I argue with you about most people here being selfish? It is obvious. Most people don't even merit people. Go look at the total merits in circulation vs the ones given out. You cannot argue with facts sorry. You should know these things seeing as you have been here for such a long time I don't know why I need to explain this.

I never said their quality was not good. You looking for an argument now. I won't argue since I know I am right.

Your topic replies were most likely on the first page and you most likely have some popularity. Most users comments get buried in shit. If you have advice for me and honestly believe you can help me get to legendary then tell me how I'm all ears. If you can prove me wrong then please do. I also do not really want to be one of the better-known users because I honestly do not want to get involved in the politics of this forum. I would rather be a quieter member that most frequently posts about things they enjoy. I just don't see why your average person cannot rank? When you post you need to have the right eyes on your posts and thus post in the correct places. It is just logical.



Absolutely you don't need to type out paragraphs. One line can contain more helpful info in it then 10 well-written posts. What if they post a link that was really difficult to find. I'd merit that. I do prefer a short and direct answer to things though.

@kryptoklerk read this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0 you’ll need to post constructive and helpful posts to earn merits, and then depending on your activity you’ll be able to rank up.


@BTCWigs I don’t think so as others have already stated you only need one merit to rank up, so I would suggest you to start posting constructive posts if you wish to rank up. Alternatively you can submit your posts in the below mentioned threads, and if your post deserves a merit you’ll be awarded one.

1)https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195967.0

2) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5085605.0

I don't think to get at least 1 merit on this forum difficult. You need your knowledge, understanding, and sharing that will earn you merit from so many people. They are not stingy, willing to give you merit if you contribute to the community. It could be a warning, a guide, or some special news, ...

I agree. Way back, it was easy to reach higher ranks like if you want to be Jr. Member just post 30 and you will be on it as soon as your activity gets refreshed. It was also the reason why lots of shitposts was being dessiminated in the forum. There are also lots of participants in different campaigns since it is easy to reach higher ranks leading to a higher profit. Spam posts should be stopped, there would be many nonsense posts if it is going to be tolerated. Even on those who are very familiar in the forum have a hard time on getting a merit because it requires more than quality posts.

The new meritnsyatem will surely bring out the effort and creativity in members, most especially the newbies who aims to climb up the ladder and get that certain rank they always wanted to be in. Let's say that they will do it by force and not because they wanted to, so what? As long as it will make the forum a better one with better contents, all is fine. Soon they will realize that the new merit system will instill them a habit worth having and developing without them knowing that the forum caused it.