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November 07, 2019, 09:39:59 AM
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The newer 'merit' system means you will be spending likely more time as a newbie.  Previously it was possible to rank up to Jr. Member and then to regular Member status in a matter of several months depending on how active you were.  Now it could take longer than that.  This should be good for the forum as it will bring less spam, low quality posts.
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November 07, 2019, 09:48:32 AM
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The newer 'merit' system means you will be spending likely more time as a newbie.  Previously it was possible to rank up to Jr. Member and then to regular Member status in a matter of several months depending on how active you were.  Now it could take longer than that.  This should be good for the forum as it will bring less spam, low quality posts.

Well, that's true as we will not be getting to see one word posts which newbies used to do earlier to climb up the ladder of ranking system as they have to earn their merits with useful posts or services in order to grow. I appreciate your post as being a newbie you have posted this, If you looks around the forum there are many newbie are earning merits with their posts which helps the forum.

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November 07, 2019, 10:02:33 AM
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You only need 1 merit to reach Jr member. If people are having troubles earning that 1 merit, then it's very likely that they don't deserve to rank up in the first place. Also, it doesn't necessarily make ranking up longer. It just completely depends on how much effort a user is willing to exert on making their posts. Remember, we have a couple of users here with merits that are 2-3x their activity points.

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November 07, 2019, 10:04:03 AM
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November 07, 2019, 10:11:36 AM
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You are not a true newbie because your account created in August of 2017, but you stopped posting around one month before the birthday of the merit system, and you woke up today.

Anyway, as you can read from above replies, you have to receive only a single merit from your good post to rank up. It is not too difficult, in my opinion and from my time since the birthday of the merit system.

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November 07, 2019, 10:14:36 AM
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I appreciate the merit system, which is a new step for the forum. Previously people only needed to post enough articles and enough time they would rank up. Currently, if the accounts want to increase their rank, they need to contribute to the forum and to everyone. That will limit spam and alt accounts. As you can see, there are a lot of accounts with hundreds of posts right now, but they are still ranked newbie or jr.member


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November 07, 2019, 11:04:38 AM
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The problem with the merit system is that most people are selfish and only here from themselves and spam anyway. If they didn't spam they would be able to pay enough attention to award people with merits. I wonder how many accounts sit with tons of merits. I have no merits left since I spend them all as I should. Noone should have any merits. They are there to give out not to horde. Unfortunately, not everyone has this mentality and that is why the merit system fails. Only popular people will get the most merits and only topic started to get merits. If you do not like to start topics you will never rank up. It just gives more power to the elites. If you don't believe me go and look at the top merit receivers.

For example, look at me. I only have a measly 25 merits. I will never become legendary. You have to seriously kiss ass and suck up and make a ton of topics based on anything you think will be popular at the time.
Hell, I have seen people get a few merit points just for a one-liner. They did deserve it but they only were chosen because they are popular here.

All that has happened is that now instead of people posting mass for post count they are posting huge massive topics for the sole reason of getting merits. It's solved nothing.

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November 07, 2019, 11:13:10 AM
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BTCWigs, I check your post history to see do you have any good post/s from a time when you were active on the forum, but unfortunately, in my opinion, there is nothing worth rewarding with merit. If you want to advance in the forum (in terms of ranking), you need to change the way you communicate in this forum by investing some time in writing useful & quality posts.

The best way to do this is to take a few examples of members who have managed to get several hundred or even thousands of merits. See their post history to learn where and how to post. 1 merit to become Jr. Member is a very easy task, the same as 10 merits to become Member.

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November 07, 2019, 12:04:27 PM
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The newer 'merit' system means you will be spending likely more time as a newbie.
More time you say? It's just one merit fella, that can be gotten almost immediately one registers on the forum and writes something that has an idea in it, that is more than enough to get one merit.

Don't get me wrong, I know it sure is as hell very difficult for many newbies, you can imagine it will, when everything they say is as good as "not useful" "said a million times already" "Spam" etc, yeah, it's hard for those sort of users.
Are you in that category OP?  Wink

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November 07, 2019, 01:23:17 PM
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I missed this kind of post, they were quite popular back then when the merit system was first introduced. Back then I was a newbie too and so the other members here. some of them became a Hero from Zero merit and some others manage to rank up, of course with their hard work. as for me, I didn't expect to get up to this far. I'm very thankful for all of the users who support me from day 1, yesterday I got my 300th merits. Just imagine I only got limited knowledge about the English language and manage to get up to this far, if it's possible for me, it will be possible for you too.

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November 07, 2019, 01:47:24 PM
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The newer 'merit' system means you will be spending likely more time as a newbie.

...the newer merit system means one now has to make an effort at quality posting before being able to wear a signature or personal text, and earn from the forum.
A newbie will normally take 28 days to have enough activity to become a jr member, this is enough time frame to earn at least one merit





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November 07, 2019, 02:00:29 PM
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The problem with the merit system is that most people are selfish and only here from themselves and spam anyway.
Do you have any proof/data for this?

If you don't believe me go and look at the top merit receivers.
Think about it. Maybe, just maybe, they actually make good content hence why they're the top merit receivers? This is pretty much the newbie/jrmember argument again.

You have to seriously kiss ass and suck up and make a ton of topics based on anything you think will be popular at the time.
Well, I've only made a few topics throughout the years, and I've received 600+ merits from topic replies(probably around 85%+) rather than spam creating topics.

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A lot of your posts are just one-liners and not really informative. If you can improve and add more value to your next posts, you can get merit faster and rank up.

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November 07, 2019, 02:07:05 PM
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The newer 'merit' system means you will be spending likely more time as a newbie.  Previously it was possible to rank up to Jr. Member and then to regular Member status in a matter of several months depending on how active you were.  Now it could take longer than that.  This should be good for the forum as it will bring less spam, low quality posts.
You already mentioned about the main reason why merit system had been created.It isnt really that long or does require too much time for you to stay up for this rank newbie to jr member does only need 1 merit + 30 activity points then 10 merits for member and so on.

You wouldnt find this as a problem if you do just try your best to post up meaningful things in forum and then merits would come along the way.

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November 07, 2019, 03:30:32 PM
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The newer 'merit' system means you will be spending likely more time as a newbie.  Previously it was possible to rank up to Jr. Member and then to regular Member status in a matter of several months depending on how active you were.  Now it could take longer than that.  This should be good for the forum as it will bring less spam, low quality posts.

Any decent poster will reach Jr Member in couple of months at the most, and anyone that fails in achieving that is seriously dedicated to one-liners and shitposting, and system is designed exactly for that reason- to prevent those kind of users achieving higher ranks.

By the look of your post history, you fall in that group, writing one-liners with minimum effort, so no wonder you are still stuck at newbie rank. Once again merit system proves working in your case, as unless you change your posting habits you will stay at low rank for quite some time.





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November 07, 2019, 03:43:43 PM
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For example, look at me. I only have a measly 25 merits. I will never become legendary. You have to seriously kiss ass and suck up and make a ton of topics based on anything you think will be popular at the time.
Hell, I have seen people get a few merit points just for a one-liner. They did deserve it but they only were chosen because they are popular here.

You do not have to write full paragraph and essay to get merits.  Half of mine posts are one liners because i do not have much to say but what i say is relevant. That's why i am able to get the merits.
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November 08, 2019, 05:41:53 AM
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The newer 'merit' system means you will be spending likely more time as a newbie.  Previously it was possible to rank up to Jr. Member and then to regular Member status in a matter of several months depending on how active you were.  Now it could take longer than that.  This should be good for the forum as it will bring less spam, low quality posts.
The merit system is a life safer, the forum is now free of roaring spammers and now to rank up you have to work for it by posting reasonable posts and avoid plagiarism

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November 08, 2019, 06:18:25 AM
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Oh
Can, please someone tell me, what need to do, to get new rank?
Im sorry if someone already ask it, just want to know
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November 08, 2019, 06:20:02 AM
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You only need 1 merit to reach Jr member. If people are having troubles earning that 1 merit, then it's very likely that they don't deserve to rank up in the first place. Also, it doesn't necessarily make ranking up longer. It just completely depends on how much effort a user is willing to exert on making their posts. Remember, we have a couple of users here with merits that are 2-3x their activity points.

This is only 1 what we need to increase rank?
And what about next ranks?  Huh
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