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We have all heard the warning, ‘past performance is not a guarantee of future results.’ However, this warning is hard to ignore when an asset like Bitcoin has generated profits across more than 94% of its lifetime.

This is exactly the case with Bitcoin (BTC) (https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-false-breakdown-followed-by-pump-analyst-outlines-possible-movement/?utm_campaign=amba&utm_medium=social&utm_source=bitcointalk&utm_content=jc), a cryptocurrency that is a little more than a decade old with a history of shattering its previous all-time highest values.

Source link here (https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-has-been-profitable-for-more-than-94-of-its-existence/?utm_campaign=amba&utm_medium=social&utm_source=bitcointalk&utm_content=jc)

I still feel some regrets though. Way back in 2010, somebody mentioned to me about Bitcoin and must invest some. I replied like "What the hell is Bitcoin?". I ignored that for so long until years later, well......you know how I feel.

I also know some of you are having the same feeling too. However, I know that it's not yet too late. I was just lucky enough in holding some satoshis while it's still around $3k in January and sold it when it reached almost $13k during the sudden boom.

For me, this is way more better than investing in gold, federal reserve notes or treasury bond, but highly risky as well.

Bitcoin has surely done much more than most of the precious commodities on the international market especially Gold, Oil, Cocoa etc. Bitcoin has increased significantly for the past decade.


I share your feelings mate..i was introduced to bitcoin in late 2010 and i was like i don't really believe that this technology can stand the test of time. It felt to me like some of those flash in the pan activities. It was until 2017 that i heard so much rumours about it that i decided to make enough research about it again. At least i am glad i am now part of it even before the global adoption of Bitcoin.

no one expected that the price of bitcoin would be this expensive, I used to think bitcoin would sink and disappear, I used to think bitcoin would sink and disappear because the price keeps dropping to $ 200, first when getting bitcoin I immediately sold it and never thought to save it.

  Nowadays that we have a modern technology ,I believe that investing in bitcoin is highly profitable if you have enough knowledge in this field. Comparing to other investment i prefer bitcoin even though it was so volatile. No one knows the future of bitcoin but while it is alive let's take this opportunity to invest and earn more.

I guess you're not the only one who regret's "dabbing" on bitcoin early. But we really don't think that bitcoin will go on like this, becoming one of the best speculative assets and turning to be profitable since its inception. However, we still have more time to accumulate BTC in our wallet and see how it goes in the next 10 years or so. You can also see the charts here:

https://en.bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/Bitcoin_history

bitcoin prices from the first created have a very low exchange value and indeed at this time many are becoming wealthy from owning bitcoin they get a lot of profit and the price of bitcoin will always experience price increases because and now it will be increasingly difficult to get bitcoin because of the influence of the total supply increasingly depleted.

I feel like I am always on the fence with articles/posts like these, I never really know what to say...

On one side, I think it's great that bitcoin would be seen as such a great investment, and these statistics are just nice to see for the eyes.

On the other side, I don't like bitcoin only being recognized for its investment values, and not as a payment method, it was not really what it was designed for, and I'd much prefer people focus on the payment methods it provides us.

Each type of investment has its own merits and demerits. The risk management and appetite of other investors aren't the same as us who are into bitcoin, they prefer low-risk investments that has guaranteed profit at very low interest.

And obviously, for us who are in crypto, we all preferred to have it. While the feeling that you had mentioned, let's forget about that. Past is past and it's just part of our memories that we can't go back.

Actually I was quite surprised by the achievements of Bitcoin. And I regret having known bitcoin when still at the price of $ 300
did not collect as much as possible at that time. I am sure many people experienced what I felt. Because no one really expected
the growth of bitcoin to this size, therefore I personally do not be surprised by bitcoin has reached 94% profit. Now we better prepare
for the future where a few more months of bitcoin there will be a halving event which is predicted that the price will go up drastically
like the previous two halving. It's not too late to collect as much bitcoin as possible starting now.

What's highly worrying in Bitcoin is that since it's backed by nothing, and whales currently have the power to change the game, Bitcoin's price is highly unpredictable and thus, the risk and emotion alongside with investing in it pressures most of us here. Unless you're pretty much confident about the technology that you won't even care looking at the prices for long periods. However, this would be inefficient because of the volatility with the price.

That's crazy, this is definelty going to make a lot of the traditional investors that never believed in a currency like bitcoin, FOMO.

That's true, but you could also make the case with a lot of other products, that are also backed by pure demand. It's great to see a currency grow with you and seeing your investment turning out well, is amazing.

94% of bitcoin's existence is a big number mate, something that should be celebrated for sure.

The demand for bitcoin before is none at all and very few are using bitcoin, but those who trusted bitcoin much before are now a millionaire which for me they deserve because of their trust. Its true that the demand right now has increased, and it becomes more profitable compare before. The supply will be more lessen next year and in the coming next year because of adoption and halving, buy not while its cheap.

Indeed, compared to other investment vehicles, nothing can compare with Bitcoin in terms of return on investment or ROI. But then again, we know that when the rewards can be sky-high most likely the risks can also be the same. Volatility is like a two-edged sword for all of us and it works both ways offering profitability beyond compare or sometime a sudden drop in value (still we can use the dip as another opportunity to own more Bitcoin). And maybe one big reason why 94% of the time we can win with Bitcoin is that this asset has the ability to crawl back after a big dip.

I am happy for you since you were able to take advantage of the $13K spectacle shown by Bitcoin and maybe you also bought them back when it reached the $7k level. That is a wise Bitcoin investor in the making.  As for me, I am waiting for a big jump within December or maybe in the 1st quarter of 2020, hopefully.

of course bitcoin investment is more profitable than investing in gold, stocks or deposits. but big profits always have big risks. but if we want to study and work hard do research before buying and selling. and can take advantage of bitcoin fluctuations well then we can minimize the risk of loss. many people can achieve financial freedom because of bitcoin. so in my opinion it's mandatory for us to have bitcoin. bitcoin is the best investment tool.

Of course many people would not think that bitcoin would be this successful in a decade, I once sold bitcoin at a price of $ 230. I thought that the price would not reach $ 13k - $ 20k, but when I learned about bitcoin, my profits increased. because I know that bitcoin is the digital currency of the future so many people will use it. And of course it's good to invest in bitcoin in a short amount of time if you invest in Bitcoin in a short amount of time.

bitcoin is a unique currency that is difficult for us to understand about its price but bitcoin is also very strong which can attract the attention of many people to have it, bitcoin is also the only coin that can compete with pure gold and they both certainly have value protecting future assets though the nature is not the same, right now I actually prefer to invest with bitcoin rather than gold because bitcoin is able to give us greater profits and bitcoin transactions that are not regulated by the government so we will not doubt the price of bitcoin even though our country is experiencing an economic crisis so it is safe in bureaucratic manipulation which usually affects fiat currencies.

Bitcoin is very young, it has got its usage for just ten years. Before that we doesn't want to come to some conclusions. It need to travel long to keep up the growth that has taken place with time. Just think of gold, to reach its position at present it has traveled years. Don't think with its technology and the limitations on supply as the factor of depreciation.

"profitability" depends on the person's views and actions when it comes to the market. for example in my experience shitcoins are also profitable even those that are currently dead and no longer on any exchange anymore!

the only thing that matters in bitcoin is that it has real potential so no matter what happens in short term or what the statistics have been in the past, the price will go up because of that potential and the fact that it has not yet fulfilled any more than 1-2% of it.

In recent time, Bitcoin has got a huge following around the world but due to having the stability it's still the main concern of the people who have got involved in this platform for a long time, I also got engaged in this platform for a long time but the attraction of this system is not improving in comparison to the previous days, whatever the case it, Bitcoin is still more profitable than any other trading or any stocks, not only in the digital platform but also in the offline market, I think Bitcoin is the most lucrative thing, I hope Bitcoin will bring more stability in the coming future so that people will become dependent on this system for their own purpose.

A lot of people are saying we are cherry picking dates to show people that it is possible to profit with a Bitcoin investment, but if you look at the price history, you soon notice that there are several opportunities in the long run to make some decent profits.

The main thing to do, get off your couch and buy some bitcoins, because as with any other commodity or currency, Bitcoin has it's peak periods and it's lows, so you just need to time your trades well to profit from this.  ;)

One good boost in the price, will blow all other investment options out of the water.  :P

Doubt is normal at first in investing, be glad that you still try and use it since many are still not aware that there is bitcoin that can change their future  just as long they try to risk some amount. I'm done regretting in investing and not converting all when ATH happened. I just keep in mind that if it arise again then it's really meant to happen beside since it''s limited in supply and can goes high when many already adopt it and use it in daily lives. Consider our self still early adopters so always think before deciding to sell it.

The Bitcoin rate is increasing every day. And lots of people already invested in this project in order to make some good profit. People at least ensure that this is not scam and always pay. So it's better than other cryptos.

Yes, considering history of bitcoin, bitcoin can be suggested as long term profitable investment. Based on past statistics, you can expect high return on long run like 4 to 6 years. it is a revolutionary currency that we have never ever seen before. In fact, it is the greatest form of currency humankind have invented. the ability to transact in a cheap, fast, secure, anonymous and immutable way is something we have never seen. Gold is a great store of value and has maintained it's purchasing power over the years, but it is valuable because we give it value. Bitcoin has much more potential due to the technology behind it. Bitcoin can be equally a great store of value with increasing adoption and price stability.

yeah same as you OP I also regret why I was late entering the bitcoin market. even though I already heard bitcoin in 2016 when it was still $ 400. I refused my call to invest in bitcoin because I thought bitcoin was a ponzi scheme. and then I was surprised that bitcoin could reach $ 20k in 2017. And then in 2018 I started deciding to enter the crypto market and from here I started collecting bitcoin. and in my opinion it's not too late I'm sure bitcoin can be bullish again and provide a large profit for me. I will be patient waiting.

This might be a common perception that people can have in terms of first hearing the word bitcoin before. But one thing I've had in trouble is the way how I can accumulate bitcoin since the connection or information I had before is limited. The biggest regret I had is not having an information as early as possible in this community.



Basically knowing the fact that bitcoin today is now surely profitable, we have the urge to hodl as much as we can as in my point, we're still not late in the advancement of bitcoin. The market price of bitcoin today is comparably low compared to what it can become in the latter future. My idea is that, bitcoin adoption will be the main goal we should try to achieve, and the main tool we have is our influence being an early adopter in this platform.

This is not enough, I think he can reach up to 97%

Many of us feel regret when we're not be able to invest more btc during those times that price was very low. Who would have thought that the price of bitcoin will be expensive today? When I’ve learned about btc before I thought it also as ponzi scheme and never think that it will be valuable today. Indeed it is not too late we still have the chance to accumulate more btc this time and wait until it could increase again.

You guys there's nothing of being late here we have still a chance to gain profit if we invest at the right time. Probably, if we are the pioneer investors of bitcoin that's the time we are all now happy. But regret no more if we invest, because after 10 years maybe we will see our profit was there. Back then, 2 years ago bitcoin is profitable due to its $20k value but for now, I don't think so. Many investors are now backing out due to its drop-down price and take a long time to increase not just like before.

What a missed opportunity just because you were so skeptical. If you are wondering or cautious what is it then you should do some research. Although i can't blame you if you don't know enough about of the bitcoin because it's better not to invest in something that you don't know. But now, i guess you know almost everything about in bitcoin since you start collecting them as much as possible.

What is the point thinking about that now, if you missed the boat you missed that and there is nothing you can do about it.

If you are having the opportunity to invest even now you can make the profit you are looking for, this is still the early stages.

For the past 6 years bitcoin is the most profitable investment than anything else.

Big risk, big profit opportunity. It's worth it. If you don't dare to take the risk, then don't try cryptocurrency, especially if you just follow the trend, FOMO, it will worsen your feelings.

In some cases, cryptocurrency, especially bitcoin, is more profitable, but it requires effort, mentality, patience, to understand the ecosystem to get maximum profit. I totally agree with your statement, that maybe for some lay people it is ridiculous, but their minds will definitely change if you want and are able to learn about this cryptocurrency.

many people ever feel like you feel. bitcoin price be big and some people that noticed by their friend regret and eant it happen again. but its not bad because they start to gain it and still get profit.
now, they are start investing and wait it happen again.

It's math nothing else. If something was profitable for the last 10 years it won't suddenly become unprofitable just like that. There is nice research in this field available online that show chances of assets staying strong on the market are growing with every year of its existence and the longer an asset is traded the smaller the possibility of it crashing and going out of the market.

Bitcoin gains value with every year of its existence even when it doesn't show that on charts.

Its not bad to feel remorse about it but just don't let it pull you down because there will be a perfect time and you just need to wait patiently, since it will be worth it. I know that some of you feel bad but its okay to start new beginnings and learning, its still an opportunity to earn profit because you can't change the fact that bitcoin is capable on giving you benefits. Just like any of you I also feel the same way, but i've realized that I should be grateful because despite of that I was able to earn and have great experiences with bitcoin.

the thing about missed chances is that they can only be considered "missed" if the rise were already over and we had reached mass adoption. but if you look at bitcoin right now, it still is in its first steps of mass adoption and is far away from reaching that full potential. so you can't really say someone has "missed the boat" just because price is currently higher than before.

i also don't get why you said "6 years" since for the entire history of bitcoin (that is more than 10 years) it has been the most profitable investment.

This is where emotions come into play and we need to be mentally strong and sure about over next step to avoid any further loses and I understand why it feels like because even I have spent a good amount and bitcoin before it's surge assuming that $400 is it's fixed price and if I would have regretted and stayed out of it then I would have earned.  We need to consider these things as learning for future.

all of that can be used as an experience for the future, I've also ignored bitcoin before and after I know the benefits that exist, I'm quite sorry. but it was an interesting experience because of that I managed to rise from ignorance about bitcoin

Surely Bitcoin is the hottest investment today but it needs to picked at the right levels. Bitcoin is very risky too, it can eat your investment in no time. Other investments like Gold can't generate higher profit in short time but these investment are less risky. If someone can risk his investment then Bitcoin is the right choice. One should be patient in such investment as it may take long time in BTC price appreciation.

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I still feel some regrets though. Way back in 2010, somebody mentioned to me about Bitcoin and must invest some. I replied like "What the hell is Bitcoin?". I ignored that for so long until years later, well......you know how I feel.
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No need to regret of I think because nobody expected that Bitcoin will be like this last 2010 and even the person who mentioned Bitcoin to you right now doesn't think that this will happen. Forget the past and focus on the present and the future. Just buy and hold Bitcoins.

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For me, this is way more better than investing in gold, federal reserve notes or treasury bond, but highly risky as well.
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Because of its volatility that is why investing in cryptocurrency is more risky than other investments like gold, bonds, stock market etc.

How I wish I had known Bitcoin at that time since I am a kind of person to take any opportunity especially in earning as long as it doesn't require me to pay or invest some cash. I would gladly pour my time and effort. Especially this kind of things which interest me and I'm willing to learn new things. But I'm too young at that time to be introduced to Bitcoin. I knew Bitcoin at my last year in my high school life which I am very grateful to my friend who come to tell me what this is about and how to get into the game.

Don't forget the fact that we are still in a phase of early adoption. There are only a few tens of millions of active Bitcoin users in this world, and that represents less than 1% of the world's population. All we need is to hold on to our coins and wait patiently. At some point in the future, Bitcoin will be used by the majority of the world's population, and we'll be able to cashout our coins at good prices.

There was another study, sort of, that implied anyone who has held Bitcoin bought at almost any point in time, and held it for longer than 3 or 4 years, has been profitable.

This is sort of like holding a broad range index fund like the S&P 500 for longer than 7 or 8 years. If you held it that long, no matter when you bought it, you'd be profitable.

History means nothing in this case. It's like saying that buying real estate in the Lower Manhattan was very profitable in the 70s, 80s and 90s, so why not not invest and buy some office space in WTC in y2k? It had to look like a pretty good investment for most people back then.
I made a lot of profit holding BTC since 2014 but its progress can slow down or even backtrack for a bit. You should own at least 1 BTC so that you won't miss out on this but you shouldn't base it all on its past performance.

Indeed, this what I am telling to my friends too who just realized the value and goodness of Bitcoin but they didn't take the chance to check it when I told them about this way back 2017, well lesson learned that before we say "NO'', let's study and investigate it first, as it might be the one that will change our life, I doubted crypto too, but, I still managed to check it since my friend told me that it's up to me to invest or not, he won't force me.

You're not alone and I think most of us here feel the same, as for me I keep hearing about Bitcoin since 2010 too from item seller's of the online games I played before and since I don't know about it so I totally ignore that kind of payment until 2013 when I found this forum while digging some information about Bitcoin because a lot of my game buddies encourage me to use it for buying anything online and that's how my journey started in crypto-space. I must say that during the past years, Bitcoin provides me a very convenient way payment as well as some profits while holding it so its a really win-win situation for having Bitcoin.

I agree. Its really evident from how it started until now. The price is really promising and we can really rely onto it because it existed this long. We are all wise investors so definitely we all diversify our investments. We couldn't ignore to invest in bitcoin because its the trend now. We are going into digital world. Its better to have a little of it and grow in the future than have nothing of it.

Just like you, I started research on Bitcoin in 2014. At that time I tried to learn and immediately created an exhanger account lol. I remember the price of BTC was still around $ 300. But I did not buy a dime. after studying for some time, I stopped exploring Bitcoin because there was something else I had to deal with for a long time.
In early 2017, I just started resuming Bitcoin research and at that time I was shocked by the many new types of coins that appeared on the market in just over two years. Of course, I do not want to miss and leave some of my time to trade crypto. And I was lucky when I was able to make a profit when BTC got new ATH at the end of 2017.

bitcoin so far has provided many benefits for people who are wise in investing. the development of prices from the beginning until now can be said to be fantastic, so I personally believe that bitcoin will continue to grow with its technology

I can definitely relate to this. But on the other hand, have you ever wondered what's become of those that bought Bitcoin at 17kusd to 18kusd couple of years back, when Bitcoin was at it's all time high? I know someone who's yet to recover from that Investment gone sour. On the other hand, it's been a pretty great run for some people.

Just don’t remind me of the past again, because this is the lifetime opportunity that I have missed and don’t think that I can get back again, no matter what anyone tells me, if I had invested in bitcoin too during that time, I would have become financially free forever because the cost of buying bitcoin then can really not be compared to the cost of buying it now, what you will use to buy 2 bitcoin now, is what you would have used to buy thousands of bitcoin then, but anyway, the past is gone already and I think we should just focus on the future opportunity already, it is also because of this regrets that many people think altcoin could give them the same result until they are being affected by scammers that has taken over the market and promising to give them what bitcoin would have given them in 2010.

Bitcoin is still young but it seems the success story far outweighs the age of this amazing cryptocurrency. Recently, I read an article that proves that anyone who bought the same amount of bitcoin in each week in any year since bitcoin's introduction would still make profit on his/her holdings. From all statistics available, it shows clearly that bitcoin is the best digital currency ever to be developed.

yes bitcoin has provided huge benefits for people who owned bitcoin before 2017. and bitcoin has also managed to score new wealthy people. I think bitcoin is the best investment tool of the century. and I think now it's not too late to join bitcoin investments. because next year bitcoin will halve and many predict the price will increase. so I think now is the right time to buy bitcoin. so that in the future we can benefit.

It is indeed profitable and I can say that because I am earning here since 2017. I thought was not that enough to make my own money but it seems I am wrong at that because, without bitcoin, I have nothing with the things I bought because of it right now, just like my gaming pc and my own gadgets also some other good stuff. I can say that bitcoin is really profitable in many ways. There are actually lots of ways for you to earn here. Just choose one of them that is really good for you and something that you have prior knowledge even a little one.

Well telling this to a person who lost a fortune in cryptocurrencies cause of the bubble burst in 2017/2018, but it really is amazing how much diversification can help, tho it took a big time to recover but I am still trading and happy as I've never been before.

You are very fortunate that you sold your btc at $13k, some may believe that the previous history will repeat itself. Some graphs are saying it, too. But that is not the reason why we should trust the history itself. The results will always be unpredicted.

I was also bought btc at $3k last year and I sold it when the price goes up twice the price. Regrets are there but it is better than to be deficit.

Those that talk about the profitability of bitcoin most of the time use the past tense to describe it and it seems they think the best days of bitcoin are behind us but I I disagree the best days of bitcoin are ahead of us, I'm sure that in the next decades people are going to lament not buying bitcoin when they had the opportunity to do it for less than 10000, and while many investors think that is an expensive price I'm sure that in a few decades that price is going to seem like a bargain.

it must be painful, right now I still keep bitcoin well, for 8 years I have saved bitcoin and have to move from one place to another until now, since 2017 the price of bitcoin has skyrocketed, I sold half of it and bought it back at $ 4000 at a time Then, I get more supply of bitcoin than before enjoying attractive price reflections this year, I don't want to miss the train so I keep it until now, because I know bitcoin has a good profit value in the next few years

This simply tells us that in the past the price was lower than today's price most of the time. It's quite useless information, you can take any asset that is currently close or at ATH, like Apple or Facebook stock, and they too will have this "profitability" of over 90%. This observation alone can't be used to predict the future or draw some strong conclusions. If you want to make an educated guess about Bitcoin's price in long term, you should look at its fundamentals instead of historical charts.

So you are judging a thing by what value market is giving it. Really? Come on.

I don't really agree with you on this statement.  It might have been 94% profitable for you but that does not mean it has been to everyone in the crypto space. A lot of people have made huge loses investing in Bitcoin considering the drop of its market value in the year 2018. You need to provide us with your statistics for this assumption of yours. Bitcoin might have a good profit margin considering its frequent change in its market price within a day or week but I don't really think it has been more profitable more than 94% of its existence. I disagree with you on this. 

If you read the link posted by the OP you will see it is true, if we take the price bitcoin had today and we count the number of days in which the price of bitcoin was below it then we could get an idea of how many days bitcoin has been profitable, after all if you bought bitcoin in any day in which the price was below the current price then you will be in profits, so only those that bought when bitcoin was above 10k are suffering losses and this will probably not last long if a new bull market happens.