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A lot has been said about IEO. Many seeing IEO as a way out in cryptocurreny, hmmmm..... is that it? don't be fooled. Many of the so-called big exchange have enriched themselves through IEO. Why do you think some projects from nowhere conducted their IEO on these so-called big exchange, it will shock you to know that a reasonable amount of these tokens are going to the exchange and the exchange is ready to dump on you the moment the token is listed or after some pump. They encourage you to hodl but they will not hodl. It is all about pump and dump. You may want to argue because you have benefited one out of many times. Have you asked yourself, how many were able to buy at IEO, they want you to come and buy on the exchange after making it look like a sold out, why sold so little at IEO when you have buck of it in store? Professional scam.....Believe me, there is more to IEO on big exchange than you can imagine. Be wise.

When the IEO tokensale model started off, it kicked off with a great start because there were lots of good projects around just waiting to conduct their tokensale with already developed products but as time went on, people's standard started reducing and all they started caring about was just the exchange where the tokensale is being held because of profit.

Centralised exchanges are not Non-profit organisations and we always have to bear this in mind and when they see opportunity, you don't realistically expect them not to take advantage of it and make as much profit as possible and this is what they do in most cases, and nobody really complained about the quality of projects until the IEOs stopped yielding their desired results.

What I am trying to say is that even as investors in IEOs, you heart was never in the right place, it wasn't about the Tech or the project, it was basically about the profit and if the shittiest project gave the highest profit, it would have been seen as a resounding success and this is exactly what the exchange's did as well in order to maximise their profits, the basic problems are we the investors, we are the ones who allowed it all to happen.

All crowdfunding models have their own disadvantages and risks. In fact, when you invest in an ICO and an IEO, you are participating in a game, the winner will win the money of the loser. it's not a game anyone can win, so if you lose you can only blame yourself.

The new trend of the crypto market is that IEO has gone well and there are very few people benefiting from the projects organized by IEO. In the beginning of that IEO trend was BTT, a cryptocurrency of the online data platform Bittorrent, which has increased its value many times. The projects that were organized by IEO later were similar. I think the exchanges have teamed up with IEO project owners to create ponzi models that make the value of these projects rise abnormally high. Garbage projects have also been organized by the IEO and prices are uncontrollably discounted.

can't disagree with you!
just like ICO of last few years. showing us some shit stuff and rasie money then disappear.
with IEO, they just dump and dump it down to nothing. that's how un-wise investors lose...

Most likely it would be the case to most IEO's as I often regard it as just a polished form of ICO with no significant advantages to offer other than a big possibility of being listed on the exchange who hosts it! And naturally these exchanges would also try to get as much profit as possible in conducting these IEO's be it a form of token shares or worst, there is the possibility of conniving with the project's core team to initiate a pump and dump scheme as what OP had suggested.

That is why its very important to recognize the traits of a good project before anyone invest in it, likewise, we should also learn if a project has good fundamentals and identify any red flags that would suggest the project is a scam so that we can avoid it and alert everyone as early as possible.

So beware guys, a project having an IEO is not a guarantee that it will not turn out to be a scam, in fact in some cases, the opposite is true! :)

IEO is just the other version of ICO, the only difference is that IEO offer confirmed listing after the sale that is why a lot of investors choose to participate in IEO but sometimes they forgot to make proper research because they are only focused in listing on the exchange. I agree with OP that IEO can be called "A professional scam" since the exchanges are involved.

IEO are ICOs hosted by exchanges. ICOs gets investors with filled wallets while exchanges gets direct money from the project/a commission and probably new users.
Exchanges could do whatever to make the investors believe the IEO token is a good project. And make it seem profitable anyhow. Much of the data are surely manipulated which makes both investors and the exchanges vulnerable for long term.

So far  I also have been suspicious of this, because many ieo that take place in exchange cannot maintain their prices when the sale is complete, just imagine there is an IEO developer who offers their token prices in exchange for $0.05 but when ieo closes the price even goes down reached $0.002, and I began to think that ieo also could not promise profits for investors who invest so, it is not wrong if we can say if ieo is not better than ico.

Not every ico was scam and not every ico ended up landing on the moon. Likewise, not every IEO will land on moon. We have to take care of our hard earned money ourselves.

investment model does have a game in it, IEO investment is not always wrong all of them and not all of them are right. I have stayed away from investing in new coins for quite a long time because several times did not get good results. I'd better be a participant than an investor, I'm more willing to lose time than my funds even though it's not good either

Yes there are promises that are not kept and exchanges that declare not the going amount collected there is a lack of transparency

Still, if I don’t want to deceive myself, the reason why I would like to choose IEO is because it pumps easily, and this makes it gives profit easily, most of the IEO projects that I have seen these top exchanges carry out have nothing less than 400x as profit which is really a very good deal for nay business man.

If you talk of technology, I think I would still prefer to make use of those top coins that are in the market, they are the ones that really have the technology that is needed to really make the economy of any country good. another thing that I like IEO for, but from top exchange is the fact that they are still secured, they are being released by top exchanges who would not want anything that will tarnish their image, so this makes them to verify projects thoroughly.

There is a new model today which I've read recently such as Initial model offering (IMO) for more information about it here is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5197057.0  There is nothing much different about it but simply just having a wallet  for investors and exchanges, this still is not going to work just like the old days where there is freedom. In search for adoption, it only lead us to centralization.

You're right! IEO is now showing a very bad result. I myself have watched many times how after IEO the price of a crypto asset went down without any reason. Who could lower her like that? Of course, bounty participants, many will say, but the participants have not yet received their tokens, then who? The fact is that the project administrators themselves hide the fact of a drain from the side of the exchange where IEO was, but only encourage the community to say that everything will work out soon.

They, the founders of the market have be seen the opportunity to make IEO when the ICO has begun to die.
So they look for opportunities to benefit their own market and make IEO programs,but actually this program is almost the same as ICO. It's just more able to gain public trust because it directly list in the market. Not like ICO, must wait for the founder of the project to find markets for product listing.

Have said it in some posts that the sentiment in the market is bad generally and IEO may not be the escape route. However, IEO from top exchanges have better chances of making good profit investors when market revives. Bitcoin takes a great percentage of daily trade both in volume and fund, the high fund movement cause the FOMO. Altcoin season will be available and the IEO project on the top exchanges with series of developments at the moment will be more rewarding.

Maybe exchanges dump tokens because they are just promoting it so they will take out profits as soon as possible, investors are also going to the same right? So if exchanges doing it means they are scammers!

Any kind of advertisement is not for investors benefit so understand the risk of that investment before spending any hard earned money.

It was actually then I trusted IEO but now I have zero my mind towards that but frankly speaking there are good projects out there but financially handicap. The only place to bounce and be known is through IEO and sadly they are rekt by high token demands from exchanges. I do not really trust IEO that much.

IEO is very well organized to manipulate the price.

This can be an example of how the agreement that happened between the exchange site and binance.
https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/44837/binance-accepted-250000-to-list-blockstacks-token-despite-claiming-there-was-no-listing-fee

But again, the investors were educated to get the pump their chance to double their money. The problem is the agreement between the exchange site and project happens internally. This must be changed and the average tokens distributed to the exchange for the crowdsale was around 7% - 15% which totally non-sense allocation.

IEOs are in 2019 what ICOs were in 2017—albeit to a less degree.

As with anything new and highly hyped in the cryptocurrency industry, they were obviously hyped up to a huge degree by the exchange platforms themselves. Binance in particular was notorious for this, hyping up its Launchpad projects by providing a variety of incentives for BNB holders and high-volume traders in particular.

I'm sure there will be a similar 'fad' in 2020, maybe it will be the 'initial DEX offering', or the 'initial forum offering'  ;D

Whether it's fraud or what, the proof is that many benefits, right? of course, we have to note here for trusted global exchange, don't try to join ieo on shitexchange, it's very risky.
Although previously there was a private sale with a certain discount, IEO is still in demand to take advantage of market interest. With this interest, it will be easier to run the desired price formation scenario. Look at the following picture. https://i.postimg.cc/y81v4qPm/ieo-participan.jpg The participants are always many, we only need to take advantage of opportunities with the right combination of timings.

You are right on target  ;D. Some sort of evolution, right? It doesn't matter as long as it can attract interest and can build trust, isn't a large community with a unique niche an opportunity?

Yes, most IEO are potential scam and have fully bankrupred nvestors. It's just a few out if many are good. I wouldn't say it is a potential scam but it is full of scams and discouraging now. I do wish we get something pretty soon to supers or monitor IEO it will be so good.

I agree with your opinion, although I can not prove it. I started thinking about this after Binance's last sale, and I thought why not. Already, in IEO, HYIP is very high and an excellent opportunity to make profit. Besides, not only that, there are other factors. It is also debatable that after these sales, the prices are falsely pumped and the value decreases again after time passes. Most IEOs on major exchanges are for profit in a short time.

not all IEO scams end, I've experienced IEO scams, when I bought their tokens and it turns out when I opened trading (deposit and withdraw) the price went down far below the IEO price and it happened in a large market, I thought why IEO why which is the latest crowfunding system from ICO ended not good. But I continue to follow the development of IEO and there are also some IEO that are successful. From that I conclude that everything that happens in crypto especially with regard to crypto investment must be true and misuse when the system is successful. In the past many ICOs are successful but many are also Scams, maybe you can say ICO is Professional Scam, now the IEO era, there are successful and scams, then the perception arises that IEO is a Professional Scam, and the last IMO, this bus is also a professional profit and professional scam. Let alone in crypto which is completely anonymous in real life there are also 2 types, Scam and not Scam. That is a reality that we must accept and is normal.

Yes, I very much agree with your argument. As we already know that IEO tokens or coins are only limited to pump and dump. Some people are fortunate to say it is a good coin or token, but some others say it is a bad or scam because they do not get any profit. If it continues like this, I can't imagine the world of crypto only being used to profit quickly and a crime that is very neat and educated.

There are many investment options out there, and you can always buy an IEOs tokens after the price has had a chance to balance out and accumulate then if it has good long term potential and isn't just a quick pump and dump scheme

Nowadays, is the best time to buy since market is so cheap. IEO is another way to invest but it needs time to study the kind of token that can be huge potential to increase in the future. The most challenging is to hold your different altcoins for long period of time and will able to wait until it will pump again tremendously.

many people are less interested in investing in new projects, they prefer to invest in coins that are already available in the market and have a good reputation. many people choose to reduce the risk so that their capital is not lost with the many cases of fraud

Yeah most of crowdfunding in crypro are having a high risk. Even it's ICO or IEO or STO they will be a high risk for the investors and that's why most of investors are just aiming for quick profits after crowdfunding end, they will likely to sell all their tokens that they get for quick profits and move on to another project rather than holding the token from the previous project

Well, that's what IEOs are, at the beginning you'll see a massive pump and dump. That's why people liked to join them. Since you could ride the train for the first few hours and then just dump it all. Even though the few IEOs back ago were not so much succeed in price pump. And cannot survived once it hits the exchange. Whether if it's an ICO or IEO they're all the same, we're like betting our money in them. And since IEO is more popular nowadays, people chose them over ICO regardless if it's a scam one or not as long as it has the word of IEO in it, everything's good for them.

Yes we can't set aside the possibility that even they are listed on good exchange it will not guarantee that they will not fool investors later on. There's really no assurance when it comes to investing in ICO and IEO majority of the projects are only based on speculation and no products to show.

I think it's just a matter of knowledge in investing. It's just that investors hasn't learned anything from all the scams that happened during the ICO days. IEO is a really good way to make profit if you know what you are doing. It's just that those who doesn't know what they are doing, they are the target which in my opinion the majority of the investors are like that. Only target that the early birds feeds on. That's the reason why I stayed away from new projects the moment I realized the system in IEO. I might miss the train and the food.

Exactly. I don't get why people seem to feel like that IEOs will protect them from all of the scams in the cryptospace all of a sudden - they won't.

And it is this exact attitude that makes IEOs even more dangerous, because of the fact that people are more comfortable and complacent with their investments they no longer conduct their due diligence when researching the project they're investing in.

You still got to remember that IEOs are for profit for both the developer AND the exchange, and both of them have vested interest in pushing the token to investors to the greatest extent. Investor protection is still extremely low.

Dump to nothing? its not all IEO projects that do this act you are claiming, most IEO from binance still have good price not far from IEO price, most IEO launchpad are just games planned by the exchanges but not all of them

Indeed, it's because most of them had some trust issues from their experiences in the past and we can't blame them for being choosy on investing because some of us had also experienced it. We have also feel what they feel and it is worst, but we can't also say that most of the projects these days are like the other projects unless you have already try investing in all new projects. Also, what can you expect? there will always be some people who's going to take advantage of you and it depends on you on how you avoid it. We can't underestimate something we don't experience and there are still some worth it and profitable investments, you just need to find it carefully and make your decisions wisely.

Obviously IEO has not be able to right the wrong of ICO's since the introduction but the only thing was that ieo gives a little bit of security to investors unlike ico that didn't give much security to investors, between, big exchange ieo has produce some good profit to investors, especially in binance, I can't say for other exchanges though.

ICO is only switched to IEO. even many scammers are able to list on the exchange very easily by only paying for the Exchange they choose. of course, exchange is not concerned with project credibility. IEO forces investors to easily invest, new investors will certainly be interested because after the sale of the coin is completed, it will be listed on the exchange. This can also be called professional fraud. But not all exchanges do dirty things like that. I believe there are still many good IEOs that can succeed, but in-depth research is also needed.

We cannot consider all the IEOs as scams just to be fair to a handful or even less than a handful of IEOs that are not scams but truly good projects, if there are any. But I think there are. Even if the majority are scams, let us also try to give what those good projects deserve. A blanket conclusion is not fair, it might consider all of them as bad eggs even if there are a few which are not. But the investors should be careful in their decisions as the largest percentage goes to the scams.

And the IEO tokens now are a good chance to recover and make a good profit from the last year when ICO projects are popular and many users where victimize. one of a good investments now are IEO's just find a better one that run in a better exchanges. like said that it is not just a quick negative scheme so better to find a one that will be long term, there is still flowery IEO's just want to make money from us. so be keep an eye on it and don't believe it right away.

Okay, can you give an example of how to research an IEO project for beginners?
 I think they were only tempted by big profits in a short amount of time after the sale of tokens is complete, and  therein lies foolishness. In my opinion, now rarely people pay attention to the function of what they buy, they only think of buying and selling when they have made a profit.
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yep  i am agree.they just thinking about how to generate profit in near time.they forget about the risk and projects qualit that will occury. Most of them didn't observe deeply and correctly in reviewing projects. Directly tradeable in market should not be main reason why they participate in IEO , we have to analize projects completely and be objective when reviewing.

I don't understand why there are some projects that organize IEOs that only fall in $ 500,000 or maybe less.  Organizing the IEO alone is a challenge.  They need money to develop projects and cover various costs.  Blockchain engineers are few, so hiring them is expensive and long term.  Another problem is the manipulation of the value of the trading floor and the project owner.  If they hadn't done so at Binance, houbi, okex, bitmat ... then maybe people wouldn't blindly rush in.

if there are bad projects then there are also good projects that really want to develop their ideas. indeed bad projects have a negative impact on investors and also people's views, but we must also be able to support real projects that are developing

I think so many people have make scam with professional by IEO, why I have opinion like this because almost people lost investing with  great IEO listed on Binance or bittrex exchange, they trusted will give much profit after investing on Binance or Bittrex IEO project investment, after listing IEO coin have lower price and investor faced with lost investing on IEO exchange project.

   Same scammers that used ICO's are now using IEO's. I think in everything good we can find some bad things. There are ways
for exchange to control new projects, but some professionals are so good at making good looking scam project, and even for
exchange team is hard to reveal them.
   We can blame others for our mistakes, but we are the ones who press buy button in some moment. We decide to invest or not
we can't blame others cause our wrong investments.

if you look at binance IEO, most of them is succes and of course give profit

i think, we cant just blame IEO in this time. remember that this is bearish market in altcoin now
so, most of investors are affraid to invest in alt and it makes most of alts are down. it affects on IEO coins too
so, we would be wise if considering others external aspect

It's hard really disputing this fact you just stated, because it's the truth. Taking a good look at IEO models in accordance with what happening in exchanges one will agree with you. Investors no longer care about ideas rather the pump and dump taking place. The big question is, some of these IEOs, where are they? What are they solving? How is the platform's growth? I don't think upto 2% of IEOs really mean business other than profit.
Sincerely like you said, there is more to IEO than we can ever know and the best thing is to be smart.

we must understand that bad projects have always been and always will be until the moment when the whole market will not be regulated and it does not have a huge number of users. only then the number of bad projects will be very small

IEOs in my opinion is a new way to make investors feel safe to buy direct from exchanges  where the exchanges act like a middle man in the process. Atleast we can know that after the sale that token will list at exchanges right.  Scam or not projects that has a most spotlight  will pump up and projects that has no liquidity will be dump. It was nature in cryptos for me.

but there are still many exchanges to let IEO Fraud launch their IEO there, there are some places of exchange that are usually used as fraudsters namely LAToken, P2PB2B and Exmarket,
many IEO are not clear there, I hope all exchanges provide good and real regulations

When you say IEO is "professional scam", I will only agree with you for exchanges which lie about the status of the token sale, some will say the tokens sold out while it barely hit softcap and this will create FOMO. Hence when trading begins, traders will set huge buy orders, and the exchange will take advantage to sell the remaining bulk of the tokens. I still believe there are some genuine exchanges, which won't toil with their reputation.

no, I disagree with you. Some large exchanges still don't disappoint me by offering that solution as tickets. Like Binance or Huobi, they have a great solution for those who hold their tokens for a long time and can buy tickets and everything becomes very professional. Phishing IEOs are small exchanges and always offer virtual numbers for selling lots of tokens, but they actually don't sell any tokens. It is better to participate in quality IEO, we should only choose the top exchanges like Binance, Huobi, Okex.

Cryptocurrency exchanges are founded not by Priests, Imams, Rabbis or Monks, they are founded by business men whose main aim is to make profit and not to make the world a better place or create a place where their users would make unlimited profit without them.gaining a single thing, if there was no way for Cryptocurrency exchanges to gain from IEOs, do you realistically think that they would ever have started it in the first place?

It's a sad fact to note that what we see as a successful Cryptocurrency project is those projects that gives us a lot of profit and not because of any technological innovations they have done and any exchange that gives the best profits in the IEOs they host are seen as the most genuine irrespective of what they had to do to pull it off.

LaToken is generally a scam exchange. I don’t understand how it has not been closed yet and who trades on it. when this exchange first appeared, many people spoke of it as a good exchange and even their token was popular, but now everyone understands that this is just a scam and you can’t store your money there

I don't agree with you on this one, it was ICO (initial Coin offering) then they upgraded to IEO (initial exchange offering) so as to give investors a more secure and reliable way of investing, so I don't in any way think the process meant any harm.

You are absolutely right, mate! Some people talk about all IEO, even big exchange's IEO too! But if you look at the price history after a massive dump in the crypto market SERO is still in profit zone for IEO buyers, though random buyers are suffering! So, they think ICO was better? Where no one knew when and where the token will be listed when token distribution and scam was a normal incident in IEO! Compare the 2018 and this year, how many project scammed after the IEO idea arrives? Very few! Exchanges are a middleman here, they take fees which is normal for a centralized exchange!

Let us look again at its original purpose, IEO conducted at the big exchange, one of the objectives is to form a strong market capacity, whether there has been a private sale or other sales scenarios beforehand, as long as the initial objectives are met. With a wide community, the product will be well known, though not all of them are interested at least this has an effect, right? Although getting profits is their biggest goal, IEO still provides opportunities for many investors.

IEO got scam projects in it but not really potential scam as some projects are really potential but most Exchanges picks anyhow projects without proper verifications... I would say most Exchanges have scam IEOs so in summary IEO us partly a scam but not totally as some are potential.

The investors as well are looking to dump after a few x of profit. But the IEO is still preferable to the ICO I believe. There are some IEOs that are doing very well several months after listing. But I agree with you partly in the concept being watered down now because there are certain exchanges who fake IEO sales just to fool investors into buying and then the projects suddenly go silent without even listing. The exchange must have connived with the project owners to scam investors here

Whaaat, why? No.

I absolutely disagree.

I think we need to understand that no project gives you a profit guarantee even if it is listed on Binance. No one can guarantee you profit in this life.

If you think that the project has a successful infrastructure, you can invest in that token. But the fact that a project makes IEO doesn't mean that it will make you a profit, who will lost if everyone is making a profit?

This distinction needs to be made well.

That is because IEO conducted in a centralized exchange where transactions are hidden and not actually viewed transparently. Yes there is a counter of sales or percentage but this doesn't reflected on the blockchain right? Or if yes, can you name one or at least show me it is really being process or directly connected in the website.

So, what are you worried about if IEO is just a dump and a pump? in fact it is not new because of the many investors to invest in IEO do not see the product but how to make profits quickly.
if you feel defeated it's a risk taken.

Do not certainly IEO scams completely, your original can play a hit and run there. For example, you buy IEO at the beginning and get pretty much. The moment of the list at the price exchange will rise can be up to 200% or more. Live your sell and go. Don't play again too long there because it will be a dump and will be difficult to get back at early prices. So take the profit and leave it.

It's a bit difficult to say this is a scam, but some IEOs seem strange because many of them are always sold out quickly on large exchanges and also some of them do, I think playing pump and dump but some ieo projects there are some who don't. they purely raise prices based on the progress they are working on and there are many IEOs like this and when trading their token values the same as IEO bid prices.

well, i have no doubt about it.
but we have no evidence for proofing it.
that the problem , even big exchange like binance can do that, but we clearly have no evidence.
i will being neutral on this cases , although we know average IEO on binance have a quite profit for investor,but that did not rule out there have a manipulation inside.
i just have speculate,probably it will be happened if some investor investing with a huge amount of money to some project and the exchange take a part on IEO or even the team it self, and well,we see massive dump after token sale, even didn't touch ROI.

When IEO just appeared on the market, it was a great model that could fix the situation. However, those who want to earn money have changed the rules of the game.

You shouldn't be relying on the way a product is being distributed but rather product itself. IEO is merely a method of distribution. A real project that is legit it would not matter how they destribute.
I mean give me a few examples of some of these coins/tokens that have been listed on these exchanges and have done what you have done? I want to know what sort of project they were and if they were shit or not. It is peopels own fault if they invest in shit. Noone else is to blame.

There are lots of things happening on these IEOs or ICOs. We the common people have to be extremely careful. It's our hard earned money. Better about as much as possible.

You've got a point. But on the other hand thier is no exemption how greatly model that will used to fix the problem. Its a common thing for everyone that we can not control what others doing when money is already involving otherwise being wise are greatly safe and effective.

The best way is to choose a trusted exchange like Binance. I do not know, even though there is manipulation or consolidation behind it, the important thing is we can participate in getting profit, so that's okay. Never choose shitexchange, it's high risk and a lot of manipulation.

You should know that profits always come with risks. When the IEO started, it brought great returns to investors. However, the longer the time, the IEO was no longer interested much, appeared rampant in the market. It only really succeeds on large, highly liquid trading platforms.

I can support you if you are talking about shit exchange. But you should try Binance IEO, I don't think you can manage to buy any coin. Binance IEO is supporting by users. I have another example for you, new Binance IEO never offer all token for sell. Now you know the main reason Binance IEO isn't professional scam.

Investors are not noob and they know what they are doing. Do you think, investors will keep on investing in IEO's if they are not profiting to it?
That is how the it works, if the project owners and big exchanges will benefit from from IEO's then investors will also benefit.

The losers are those investors who didn't think wisely, from the start we know that this kind of investment has a risk but if you know how to play with it then you can lessen the risk or even gain a big profit from being part of successful IEO's.

Binance has now become a lot of choices when IEO is launched at Binance, the sale will quickly run out, meaning that there are still those who believe in IEO and will generate large profits when it is traded, investors now have a lot of confidence in Binance what the exchange does there is good for the user.

Binance is the choice of many investors because it is associated with a good reputation. IEO held by Binance is always successful and profitable for investors when the initial listing and this is different from other exchangers where many token prices fall when the initial listing and this can reduce investor confidence in IEO held by other exchangers

Decentralized Exchange are out to make profit and that explains why several measures are devices to rip off the investing public. The projects are not left out in their ploy as several projects have been made to pay exorbitantly to host their tokensale only to be deceived with figures when actually investors were not purchasing the tokens. I personally won't advise anyone to invest on IEO when you can get it much more cheaper after the IEO sale.

do you have any proof to this accusations that this big exchanges dumps this tokens? Because to me I see it as just your point of view on the ieo without enough evidence to back it up

IEO was simply the next giant hype for a short time where everyone thought that now after the ICO hype it would go straight on like this.
unfortunately the IEOs are mostly useless because in the end the project is still decisive and not the platform where it is sold. for me the IEOs are
on the same track as the ICO and neither better nor worse. if the plan or the product is bad the name doesn't change anything about the process ;)

It doesn't always happen that way.If we are talking about holding an IEO on a major exchange as a binance or kucoin then almost always the price after the IEO is much higher.

It is nothing more than paid listing, thats why only Binance, Huobi and all other solid exchanges are doing IEOs. A coin will be directly listed on this exchange, which gives a huge advantage for IEO participants.

Well, this makes sense. They can easily do this with the money they get from selling tokens on the exchange, then they work with the exchange to do the pump scenario at the beginning, and they will dump it massively after investors think of holding the token for a long time. The method is fairly sneaky in the investment business and clearly this is a very planned fraud scenario.

Almost 90% ICO's was scam in the previous year and also in this year a lot of scam ICO's i have seen. IEO's is the replacement of ICO's and it's depend in the exchanges so there are no reason to every IEO will success. Big exchanges all of the IEO will success most of the time. Small exchanges projects is very difficult to success. 

The true IEO going on Binance and a few other exchanges. Medium and small exchanges manipulate about raised funds and use bot trading/fake volume when they list token after IEO. I saw that many times.

ICO projects started to have a huge amount of scams in the year of 2018, that is why a lot of investors and bounty hunters have stopped investing in projects because they didn't get any good profit. But since IEO projects came, there are only few investors and bounty hunters who participates in these projects because a lot of people still don't trust new projects that they assume that it will also not be profitable and it will also be a scam.

I think in this IEO game only the exchange will benefit. Initially they pumped the first IEO projects to attract investors. They then make very difficult rules to hold large amounts of their platform tokens. Eventually they gained profits from the platform token price increase, and the huge listing fees earned from the project.

in other words, the market exchange that provides a place for IEO works with the project team to deceive investors and if there is an opportunity, they do a volume manipulation to make it look promising (pump and then dumped). Wow, that makes perfect sense. (just realized and shocked)
So far I have only been suspicious of the IEO project, but now that I thinking back, it turn out there is a big possibility that the market exchange get involved too. what a great business, everything is a fraud. fck!

Everything is base on negotiation, project owners want a platform to sell their tokens since the old ico method is out of fashion, and exchanges on the other hand will be paid for the service they will render,  both parties are in agreement so i don't see how this is a scam, and investors are not compelled to invest, it is a thing of choice, besides, ieo is still less risky than ico.

I think his assumptions are based on the initial price movement and especially in the first hour of listing, fluctuations look the same as the Pump and dump pattern and then the price drops quickly. He did not realize that it was normal to test market liquidity, and the actual price would be seen a few hours later, the IEO on the top exchange had a long-term volume endurance, and sought to benefit all parties including the organizer. If a trader is just trapped in hype and then buys at a high price, it is because of his lack of understanding in reading the initial pattern, and then starting to analogize the system with short assumptions.

You right. Good exchanges will last and coins help there will have a good chance of being worth more then they were at IEO sale. So far for me it has been better and the coins i bought or have earned on bounty have been listed and worth something. Sometimes the project does badly but then at least i got something selling my bounty earnings.

I don't know why people are like these, they complain when things go wrong but in the first place it is their fault to get involved in a scam. If you are a newbie or a clueless experienced investor about something then you should not jump into it because it is a very risky move and you should fix yourself by getting education to avoid wasting money and time in a scam project.

but IEO for recovering losses from the bear market, I don't think so. Such a situation is caused by market conditions that are not yet as expected, thus impacting the ongoing project. investor confidence is reduced and many IEO are not in line with expectations

The best way to research this is by looking at various news about the IEO and observing their team, and even in the whitepaper also stated about the objectives of their project. For more convenience, check the section
Scam Accusations in bitcointalk threads. There will be listed several projects that have been indicated by scams.
Novice investors at this time are tempted by the discounts that are given and only think of the benefits to be gained.

Indeed. You need to workout with your knowledge and not to fall right away and invest your money. Don't be move by any hypes as no one will be blamed once you mistakenly invested your money to any scam project inside this market. It's you who needs to investigate and study every information about the project to put your investment. failing to do your research will put you to a higher risk of losing your money.

Pal you don't know what you are saying, after good returns from binance IEOs few weeks ago all IEO projects from binance start pumping again, i can't say about other exchanges but i trust binance, they focus more on been the best exchange

Straight to the point.

Investors are investing not for the project but for the profits that they can get to an IEO. I also thought of this long time ago since the IEO's are existed. I know that exchanges will take advantage into it to get more profits aside from the profits that they get from the traders. Now in order for a project to be a "successful" one, they must launch it on a popular exchange.

Can somebody say here what IEO project became successful already (what I mean successful is their price right now is higher than its original price in IEO)?? I don't think that their are even those IEO's that launched in Binance are now below its original price

That's why no matter how much cheap the price is and no matter where exchange they conduct their IEO let's remember that it will be always depends on the team how they are going to push up the price, because most of the time project don't care about the price anymore once they got enough fund with how much they raised. Sad truth but we need to be clever always.

It is true that the IEO organized by the Binance and Kucoin exchange or other large and trusted exchanges will provide a lot of profit and will not guarantee a scam because investor funds will usually be stored by the exchange and will be given to the founder of IEO when the product is released and will quickly enter the exchange place.

It is natural that Binance, Huobi and all other solid exchanges that carry out IEO, because the exchange-excange is able to provide full guarantee of success to the project, and very different from a small exchange, where they are not able to provide full guarantee of success to the project.

if you use that logic, so you will assume that all crypto is in manipulation too. look at most crypto, those are just pump and dump scheme
even Bitcoin, which is the best crypto, is also pump and dump scheme. How can the coin get pumped from $ 3,700 to $ 19,000 just in 4 month?
then dumped from $ 19,000 to $ 6,500 in 2 months. isnt it manipulation too?

Remember mate, this is cryptocurrency. which has low liquidity and deregulation.
just take it to our own sake. volality =profit

the investor community in large exchanges is very qualified to do IEO. because trust in the assets traded there is indeed very large from the community. I think all investors will think smart by choosing investment in the best project. and good projects must be able to find good exchanges to support their success.

IEO can be said to be a fraud, if the allocation is not fair, there is no real or developed product, manipulation occurs, and be careful with low-reputation exchanges. ICO and IEO differ entirely only in crowdfunding, and after that the project is fully carried out by the team. what the OP says is true, but at least a large exchange & a good reputation does not allow that to happen. If you are in doubt, be a wise investor who sells it if you already feel enough profit, because what I know crypto-world is filled with manipulation, so take that opportunity.

if what you say is true, it means it is very good, unlike other exchange places when IEO is finished the money is given directly to the project team, in contrast to the binance that hold/store money investors first before the product is released. Well, after there is a product (product release) binance then gives the money to the project team. wow, binance means providing full guarantees to investors. I have never invested IEO in binance so I don't really know but if what you say is true, it is incredible Binance.

IEO have many way how to make their coin become scam although success sold out and reach maximum selling coin target or listing with big exchange market, but other side after coin listing with market price keep lower than IEO time and always have down without try by owner to buy back and make their coin back to higher price above IEO time.

I have always been suspicious of ieos but I never thought about what the exchanges could be doing to benefit from this, but you are right, we know that exchanges are not above lying or cheating their own customers and if they can make a lot of money in a way that doesn't bring them any risk then they are going to do it, and ieos seems like the perfect way to make a lot of money without any risk, and even if they are not engaging in those activities ieos are no different than icos and we know the extremely low success rate those coins have.

Though you have a point but it is not right all the time. A shit project can't come into Binance or Kucoin and other reputed exchange's launchpad! All the Binance IEO projects look great to me except Perlin! But it's true that people don't go to support those projects, they go to make a profit where I can't blame them! After a significant loss in 2018, IEO helped investors a lot to recover some loss!   

It is better not allow oneself to get deceived. Yes, I personally do not discourage investing in those projects, but you can limit loss by ensuring you are able to buy at the most advantageous point. Also, do not be greedy when you sight a profit.

Thats true. Maybe it's really a game and can be manipulated by the developer and exchange teams, but as long as we can enjoy the benefits, why not? As long as the project is legit and real it is not a problem. my principle, try the opportunity although small, every advantage is a blessing.

Well, people here are greedy, IEO's in the beginning are very profitable but I don't know how long they kept their money on such projects to maximized profits.

But smart investors uses a simply tactic: invest early if you see you have profited already, exit and move to the next project and roll in your capital, simply as that.

yes I think you are right some of the IEO also commit fraud. exchanges that issue IEO just want to enrich themselves. investing in ICO and IEO projects is indeed very vulnerable to fraud. and it is quite difficult to distinguish between a true project and a scam project. so we must always be careful and do research before joining IEO or ICO projects. or if you are afraid of losing it's better to invest in the top bitcoin or altcoin.

please specify which IEO coins were eventually removed from large exchanges. my question is simple. most of what I see still has a trading volume that is not bad. All new coins will always have a good price at the start, that's true because of the hype.

if now having an unexpected price does not mean they have lost everything, they also need a process to build price progress, coins and exchanges that are still active like this can be considered a scam only because of alleged manipulation of the initial scheme / hype?

maybe there's a point, after there are some tokens that go down in value after listing on the market, but not all of them do, some do develop their projects and use ieo to attract investors, be wise :)

if so, they will only look for new ways to deceive people.
go if you still think of bad effects, then there will be no good things you see. start thinking clearly, because there will be advantages and disadvantages for everyone, you do not answer wisely.