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I opposed the flag because I don't think the trust system should be used to deal with altcoin shills and trolls, but you should not take that as an endorsement of any kind. You have no business being outside of altcoin boards.

Seems like there must be more to this story.

The user sends multiple PM's about users on my trustlist - so I checked the neg from lauda and its correct.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2541338.msg52823567#msg52823567

check the post above, telling people that they will get 10,000x returns on alts and BTC is dead - listen to this fool and you are going to lose money - so pretty sure the flag is correct? if I am wrong please let me know but that is my understanding of the system.

Thank you.

It's an opinion and should not be subject to flags or red trust. Plus the flag reference points to a thread started by someone else and is borderline invalid.

I'm pretty sure I've told numerous users to buy Howeycoins, do I get a yellow flag for that too? If we start flagging for peddling altcoins then the whole altcoin board needs to be flagged starting with Charlie Lee and Sunny King.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with Suchmoon's stance on this. Although, I believe the OP is spewing bullshit its certainly not scamming anyone. Unless, they were offering to double users money themselves or advertising a site which in turn scams. I just think this user is either trying to troll a Bitcoin forum or has opposing views to most of the population on this forum.

I'll oppose it for now unless there's a little more to the story here.

Although, regarding the following;
I'm not sure I'm quite understanding whats being implied. What exactly is the user doing by messaging users on your trust list?

I think the feedback is OK, but I don't think a flag is warranted for having an opinion. 

I also won't oppose the flag as the OP is lying. 

I clicked the link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2970288.msg30516720#msg30516720) in his sig to see what he's all about and I came out with the biggest headache. Someone that can comprehend that shitshow of a thread might want to look at it. There's a potential that it could prove your flag better than the linked topic that you used. I could be totally wrong though.
Strangely crypto experts and doctors/lawyers with 1 activity decided to reply once and disappear forever in the first page of it.

It sounds like a convoluted ponzi or shroom babble, not sure. On its own it's still not a good reference for a flag but if someone can pick it apart in a separate Reputation thread - it might be.

I think you're getting carried away here by insinuating that there is a problem with Marquise $Museum. This is a project I spent alot of time with and its well liked with the Russian community on Waves platform where it also highly ranked.

If there is anything I can explain in more detail for you, then you can write to contact@marquisemuseum.com or pm me, as there is no one better suited for the task of "picking it apart".


There are no lies here.


Dr.Meszaros formulated an exchange listing disclosure and it can be viewed here:

https://docdro.id/fbDyDZZ

Andrew offered some early vouching by writing in the announcement page but we discontinued the collaboration because he was too expensive.

As far as I am concerned, Marquise $Museum is complete since last month after 2 years of building and all I am doing with it is negotiating active tracking on CMC and 1 more exchange listing with top 50 inorder to get that active tracking. I am also managing market making and rewarding users with weekly airdrops for bounties and votes.

Beyond this I am also researching some merchant payment options like blockcard for printing and distribution of a branded debit card that can be charged with $M-2. I think it's a good marketing method to send to VIPs.


Art...I am selling art. Art that can be redeemed using $M-2 crypto currency:

https://www.marquisemuseum.com/portfolio

I am also offering a lending scheme that is using recent developments on waves chain to buy back the loan with staking profit that is airdropped every week depending on stake amount. Is this not permitted? If not, then I can discontinue that service but so far no one has optioned it.

The system works like this:

1. Lender buyes 100 million $M-2 in BTC market for 5 btc:
https://client.wavesplatform.com/dex-demo?assetId2=BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB&assetId1=WAVES

2. I convert the loan from BTC to Waves and use weekly staking to pay back loan (currently around 70k with 35 waves weekly repayment)

3. If Waves price increases, loan is repaid faster because it is recommended that lender resell into USD where I repurchase. So it is fixed in USD and the interest is x30 loan amount whereas I gain much needed business liquidity and also retain 50% of staking rewards for further development and profit. It is similar to business loan. The only downside is that the full repayment rate of x30 profit is 1000 years with a waves price of $0.6, breakeven at $8 is 36 months and at $100 per waves it is a 7 year x30 profit. Another downside is that the 64k waves loan is worth 7 million USD and the profit using my system is only 1 million USD. But because lender acquires from BTC market I don't expect BTC to gain x100 whereas it may happen with waves on a 2 year horizon. I expect waves to go parabolic into $544 within 24 months barring some failure.

100 million $M-2/5.5 BTC at 7200 (39000 USD)/0.6 (waves price) = 64k+7k private stake for 70 waves weekly airdrop of which 50% (35) is used for repayment. 35x4x12 = 1680 waves annual repayment rate fixed in USD equivalent when reselling 100 million in USDT market on waves dex (1 million USD/x30 profit).

What happens when waves is worth 1/10th of what it’s worth now?

Then I have prepared 100k waves acquisition using private funds.

If it remains at $0.06 the repayment break even is 80 years but there may be some monthly fiat liquidity using company funds to accelerate breakeven, for example $50 or $100 USD fixed addition. So that's 25 years for money back. Anyone who thinks this will happen, should use their $40k for something else.

So if waves goes up by 1000%+ your lenders get a chance to break even? One of the stupidest shitcoins I've seen but there is no law against being stupid.

The offer is in BTC so technically they are not buying $Waves here. However, there is also the opportunity to redeem the portfolio art that I spent 3000 hours working with together with studios and artists around the world. So maybe, it can be worth a little bit in the future, seeing as the system $M-2 is built on is business patentable in America and was subject to Swedish evaluation in March. This means that the system I use in this project, was a world first, and that is historically important for value appreciation of cultural objects. For example, Andy Warhols Orange Marilyn gained x15 000 value from 1960 to 1995 because he was the first pop art inventor. I am not the first person to tokenize art but the methodology is first to market.

The patent application gained 2 out of 3 merits in novelty (no one has done this before), industrial utility but was dismissed because there was no new technical component and that is a requirement in Sweden as the most difficult patent country in the world. In America, business methods can be patented, so it can be protected there through WIPO PCT Priority until march 2020 but because it was dismissed in Sweden, and crypto is global, it will be too hard and expensive to protect legally.

The loan offer is one additional incentive to acquire the 15% $M-2 stake with some hedge.

Top wallets also receive dividends from sales profit if collectors redeem the cryptobook for $30k (it contains 125 grams 24k gold). And this is valid for that stack which is top 2 stack, and it can be used to redeem the book aswell, but the loan will then expire.

http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB

What happens when waves is worth $0.0006 ?

Even based on current price sticking who on earth would trust you with funds with an estimated break even of 80 years and from my understanding that will mean 2400 years till they get the full x30 promised? Or is there a language issue here and you are saying 80 years to include the 30x on investment. Too early to work this out myself

Trust isn't a problem because authorities has $MM kyc and I would not be interested in a securities fraud charge.

Funds can also be optioned in smart contract escrow, which is why I believe that crypto lending will replace banking and p2p industry. This is a market BTC was not at all designed for.

If you want x30 guaranteed profit, naturally there is a downside. If waves is worth $0.0006, the fixed fiat repayment share of $50-100 monthly supercedes the crypto staking repayment, and repayment time for breakeven is then 36 years instead of 18. I could of course choose to convert the BTC/USD collateral into waves at a slower rate and wait for $0.0006 before converting 100%. Besides, there is private funds to cover up to $1000 per month.

Because the loan is fixed in USD, profit potential comes from price inflation of Waves which may or may not happen. But if it does go up alot, it's a nice x30 profit on a time scale of a few years and that's pretty cool considering that $M-2 can also be used to participate in the investment art portfolio.

This is a hedged offer to join a nano market cap project early and benefit from USP with zero loss exposure barring inherent risks of crypto and personal banking which is lower security in general, than banks.

If a lender believes that waves will outperform $M-2, they should invest in waves first. But the collateral is BTC and I personally don't think it will outperform good alt projects at this stage.

listen here cuntsmouth - you offered X30 returns....

what happens when waves (the shitcoin) is worth 1/100th of what it is now?

let me answer - everyone other than you loses out

so you are some skam cunt who thinks they can take peoples hard earned BTC

flag stands. neg stands

go fuk your mother if you want to fuk

And that's why I opposed the flag.  A lot of members hold extreme opinions about bitcoin, and I really don't think anyone is seriously at risk of losing money as a result of this one member expressing his.  I don't happen to think MarquiseMuseum is right about his take on bitcoin's future, but his opinion is certainly not worthy of a flag or negative trust. 

If I'm remembering correctly, Theymos doesn't want members using the trust system to tag people because of a difference of opinion--and that means neg trusting and flags by my interpretation. 

If that's the case, it's a different reason to open a flag against him.  Ponzi schemers often get negged, and they deserve it too--but the flag this guy got from Lauda wasn't for that.  If you think he's trying to scam people, make a new flag with a reference thread that gives enough evidence such that it gets support from a good number of members.

Unlike most ponzis, this is promising to repay from shitcoin staking and is admitting that it may take thousands of years. It doesn't have the "too good to be true" scammy odor.

This is a case of "too true to be good".

I'll take a look at the website a little later on when I can visit it with Tor, but from the replies here I'm not liking the nature of the website. However, this flag seemed to be related to the opinion of the user on the referenced thread. I imagine there would be a lot more support if it were directed at the users website.

my head hurts... please someone do another flag so I can lose the one lauda is on and back up one that has more clout.. its obvious this dodgy bloke is as bent as a 50p note...


MarquiseMuseum night night princess

Third worlder.

What were you expecting? Do you go on your horsefucker forum and expect to get replies from altcoin activists?

Swedish government is using more sophisticated methods of provocation than this lynchmob. Something to genuinely fear. I will still practice self censorship as far as staff replies, it's a journey without destination so to speak.

If Welsch wants clarification, he is welcome to contact me in pm or company email.

Thank you for the attention to the others, and genuinely to those who opposed this arbitrary punishment for expressing free opinion.

Maybe someone is willing to put this project to the test with a puny 5 btc investment rather than talk shit. Talk is cheap.

Maybe you shouldn't beg for the horrible bitcoins that you dislike so much. Makes you sound like every other hypocrite shitcoiner.

Instantly convertible into USDT and Waves.

My garbage is instantly convertible to USD if I can find some sucker willing to buy it. That doesn't make it either valuable or useful.

Yeah, I'm sure you'd love that. ::) If your project is so good, why not invest your own money?

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The marketplace you have linked to is your token against Waves, not your token against BTC. I can't see a marketplace for your token against BTC. Can you confirm?

Your entire loan model seems to be able to be summarized as follows:

Loaner buys millions of your worthless token for 5 BTC.
You convert their 5 BTC in to Waves.
You stake the Waves.
You use 50% of the staking rewards to pay the loan, and 50% you keep as profit.

As far as I can see, you are essentially passing all the risk on to the loaner, and keeping 50% of their profit. If someone else held your delusional view that you "expect waves to go parabolic into $544 within 24 months" (n.b. Waves is currently worth 63 cents), why would they not just buy Waves themselves, stake them, and keep 100% of the profit? What do they have to gain by holding your worthless token and handing 50% of their profits over to you?

You are essentially asking for a no collateral loan of 5 BTC to gamble on an altcoin.

That's the point.

Some idiot just shows up saying that he can make your money go 30x by trading or fundamental shitcoin analysis or whatever.

Being an idiot is not an excuse for losing other people's money
The flag or trust is about "dealing with this person is risky and you will probably lose money".

If OP believed he was that good to make 30x whenever he pleases he wouldn't be asking for someone else's money.
If you are asking for other people's money, get read to face a lot of judgments. And that's what is happening to you know: people are judging your strategy highly risky and you will (almost certainly) lose other people's money . You are not going to deliver 30x to anyone.

If you can make 30x do it with your money, or under a very clear business. Not as an anonymous guy asking for money from random people in the internet

I guess my flag is unwarranted indeed. ;) Reference link more or less.

To Bitmover and Oeleo, I did invest alot of money over these 2 years along with many unpaid hours.

This idea is completely new because Waves recently implemented a change in monetary system, so of course as soon as I thought about it, I optioned to include it into the project. A lending scheme using waves will be implemented on their new exchange, there are alot of developments taking place in that coin right now, but also high risk.

The $M-2 stack has separate USP inherent to project specifications such as redeeming the art portfolio. This offer is directed to those who find Marquise $Museum interesting but too high risk to allocate a medium amount of capital.

It is easy to complain, but harder to innovate. Where are your own projects guys? hm?

There is one top 1 wallet with 370 million coins, he will receive repayment offer for x30 profit but we need to allocate a mandatory market for that stack because Euro and USD are filled at 1 cent, and the others are using many decimals. OTC transfer is of course a possibility in this case, BTC market is also small at 1 sat.

And about waves parabola, I never claimed to compete with a multi million dollar ICO. $MM is a nano cap small budget launch and I am sure waves will outperform most other cryptos including mine. However, the offer is in BTC market, not waves, I expect BTC to underperform on a 5 year horizon compared to native index platforms like vechainl stellar, waves and centralized migrations like nasdaq dollars.

Exactly. So your entire scheme is to pass 100% of the risk on to someone else, while skimming 50% of their profits off the top for yourself. I'll ask again: What does someone else have to gain by giving you 5 BTC to stake on their behalf and take 50% of their profits? Why not just do it themselves and keep 100% of the profits, since they are assuming 100% of the risk in both scenarios?

I don't need to raise my own cattle to know that McDonald's burgers are trash, and I don't need to have my own project to know that your "loan" system is trash.

I appreciate your feedback on this implementation.

BTC does not have staking rewards, the user must convert into waves to gain the margin that I otherwise reserve for development and company profit. I don't know why everybody simply don't do everything themselves instead of paying banking fees or waiters at restaurant, I guess many reasons. Fundamentally, the cryptobook is the backed asset of $M-2, so it must be a purveyor of collectible contemporary art who will make that investment call. In essence, the $30k book is the material gain. It is impossible to imply that it will have an Andy Warhol level of generational store of value, but there are some elements here that are required to mimic that type of potential mainly in its time stamped issuance in february 2018 combined with a novel system of fractionalizing artistic ownership.

Thanks to world class artist renditions from Poland, Brazil, Bangladesh, USA and esteemed Swedish manufacturing subsidiaries, the production quality of this item is absolutely top of the line. It also contains 125 grams 24k gold.

On a comparison with Andy's growth, it's $30 000 to $450 000 000 on a 30-40 year horizon. I mean, who knows?
Andy had timing but I doubt his vision from an investors standpoint was taken into consideration. And there are limitations in that debate due to Howey restrictions.

How many of these have been produced?

You say the book contains 125 grams of 24k gold. Assuming this is true, this is worth a little less than $6,000. Where is the other $24,000 dollar of valuation you place on the book coming from? Have you had it independently valued, or are these just numbers you have arrived at yourself?

Ooft. So in addition to thinking Waves is going to grow by 86,000% in 2 years, you also think your book is going to see similar increases in value as Andy Warhol's paintings, and some day be worth millions of dollars? ::)

Judgement about the OP and their project aside, this flag doesn't even meet the basic technical requisites for creating a flag, such as a flag thread.

Never thought I'd get a chance to do this. Must be my lucky day.

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-everyone-needs-a-fantasy-andy-warhol-143-24-32.jpg

MarquiseMuseum,

You might not be a scammer. However, what you are saying is highly risk and everyone involved in probably lose money.

You are saying you have assets backed by thousands of dollars, gold... you expect your paintings to be like Andy Warhol. You try to make your project look serious, but you are doing everythign the wrong way. You are trying to look for investors here in this BITCOIN forum, Promoting an altcoin?

This is not things should be done. Have you hired people to audit your company (if you have one), proving that you own all those things you claim?

You are still talking about a nearly dead project like Waves, which is losing value day by day. Probably one the worst platforms to host a new project today, because it is *probably* dying soon.


I was looking at your website , where you are talking about the loan.
https://www.marquisemuseum.com/x30-loan

You are only talking about the scenario where Waves increases it price (so you can pay 30x faster). But if Waves goes to 0, what happens to the investors 30x? You know that 0x30 = 0 right?

It is almost zero now. 0.63, and ATH was 18.

flag and trust abuses by this gang is quite a normal thing here so i apologize for their moronic moves and if i were you ill distrust these abusive people.I'll support anyone who oppose abusers.

Thanks for admitting that.

you seem to of ignored my earlier question, what happens when waves is worth less than it is now. Please enlighten me here as I believe waves is worth less than Doge in the coming months/years yet you believe its going to go 10,000x plus or whatever stupid number you are quoting.

seeing as you are promising a 30x return on peoples investment, what the fuck happens when you are wrong?

If Waves continues its death spiral, losses inevitably fall on company funds and profit where it is allocated into waves, except for a share reserved for manufacturing which is $10 000 up to $15 000 of the intended $30-40k loan. This can happen in any company, I know especially a Swedish mining company which is correlating heavily with gold price.

Remainder is repaid in monthly fiat installments (up to $500 per month) because there are other company income streams in fiat, which is actually the majority of revenue.

The x30 profit will remain inactive so long as waves does not appreciate, I will include this in loan terms for clarification.

At the very least, loan will be repaid in full within a few years if everything else collapses and I will include above market returns on interest perhaps 15% annually but not x30 unless renewed crypto boom. Those who say better invest in waves to gain more profit sure you can do it, but it is not so easy to realize this type of multiplicative profit unless you are a professional trader or founder. There is every reason to take that theorethical margin cut and leave psychological stress over to a third party in exchange for guaranteed profit.

Cryptobook production cost is on 1st page in $MM announcement, most of the expense is because of Swedish hand labour such as book bonding and jewellery. There is certainly considerable pre tax profit margin in those $30k otherwise I would not have developed this project.

It comes down to making judgement calls, do you as an investor believe in this blockchain tech or not.

P2p lending and bank loans cannot even come close to generating this type of parabolic gain and there is plenty of fundamentals to back it up, so I do not at all consider anything but immense growth for this sector on a 5 year horizon barring catastrophic team failure or hacking which is a considerable risk factor and the reason why it is a risk/reward assessment and not immediate all in.

Please elaborate on all your revenue streams, since as far as I can see, your website doesn't mention them whatsoever.

So you are adjusting your promise from 2,900% profit to 15% profit?

What stress do you have? You are entirely using someone else's money to gamble on Waves. If it goes to zero, you don't lose any of your own capital, only theirs.

I'd like to ask again where your valuation of $30k comes from, since the gold contained within the book totals less than $6,000. Have you had this product independently valued?

You are mental OP. Waves will be worth fuck all, your book isn’t going to be worth 30k and the whole set up is a load of dog shit.

You have contradicted yourself numerous time in the thread, members of this forum need protecting from idiots like you

Please help me oppose these terrorists who keep activating and deactivating trust score everytime bitcoin price moves up or down.

I was right, BTC crashed hard to sub $4k and many new users were spared of economic loss.

If I was right, then I was right, stop fucking terrorizing me piece of shit.

1. Your flag is inactive. Nobody has left you a new trust reference since November.

2. BTC dipped below $4k for less than half an hour. You said it was going to zero. You were wrong. You were also very, very wrong about this:


You said this on March 13th. After that, Waves sank to 70 cents before slowly climbing to its current price $1.09.

Either way, I doubt a single person here has ever acted on your "brilliant" analyses, so stop patting yourself on the back so hard.

3. Nobody is "terrorizing" you. I wouldn't tag you over making horrific price predictions, but you do talk like a scammer and nobody should trust a single thing you have to say. Additionally, nobody owes you shit BTW.

unnecessary insult deleted.

deactivating account, goodbye.


I owe it to myself. Deeply indebted to my younger and future self.

And you are also wrong I have a list of things that are owed from all kinds of places, millions.

I think he is talking abt Trust Ratings which got reactivated !

Probably, I made a fan page: http://islaudastillondt.tk/ :)

I am not keeping such junk in my PM folder. Friendly and professional as always, as is evident of a trusted service provider.

Yes, clearly this user is the problem. Not the fact Lauda thinks it is acceptable to run around tagging and flagging people for making predictions they don't like. I am not sure you could possibly get your head any further up Lauda's ass.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Thanks for the effort 🤣👍

lauda has dick? :o  ::)

Can't be sure about that but someone clearly has an obsession with other members' (no pun intended) genitalia. Some people never grow up.

dont worry tman is asleep forever he will never come back to this forum

Techy obviously regards his rights as more important than everyone else.

Why isn't this troll given a temp ban for repeatedly posting NSFW images after they are deleted?

The above image is nothing in front of the NSFW things the accounts in the image do here most of the time. It is very much realistic too.

Have whatever imagination you want.   We don't need lo visualize it...