TMAN & Lauda

[MarquiseMuseum]

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Arbitraily downtrusted my profile for making correct BTC predictions.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=897


If you support these two, then drop an opposition vote in that link.

I asked Theymos to remove TMANs 22/11 downtrust because it was purely malicious spam and unrelated to the original conversation with Lauda.

[suchmoon]

I opposed the flag because I don't think the trust system should be used to deal with altcoin shills and trolls, but you should not take that as an endorsement of any kind. You have no business being outside of altcoin boards.

[OgNasty]

Seems like there must be more to this story.

[TMAN]

Seems like there must be more to this story.

The user sends multiple PM's about users on my trustlist - so I checked the neg from lauda and its correct.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2541338.msg52823567#msg52823567

check the post above, telling people that they will get 10,000x returns on alts and BTC is dead - listen to this fool and you are going to lose money - so pretty sure the flag is correct? if I am wrong please let me know but that is my understanding of the system.

[MarquiseMuseum]

I opposed the flag because I don't think the trust system should be used to deal with altcoin shills and trolls, but you should not take that as an endorsement of any kind. You have no business being outside of altcoin boards.

Thank you.

[suchmoon]

check the post above, telling people that they will get 10,000x returns on alts and BTC is dead - listen to this fool and you are going to lose money - so pretty sure the flag is correct? if I am wrong please let me know but that is my understanding of the system.

It's an opinion and should not be subject to flags or red trust. Plus the flag reference points to a thread started by someone else and is borderline invalid.

I'm pretty sure I've told numerous users to buy Howeycoins, do I get a yellow flag for that too? If we start flagging for peddling altcoins then the whole altcoin board needs to be flagged starting with Charlie Lee and Sunny King.

[Welsh]

Yeah, I'd have to agree with Suchmoon's stance on this. Although, I believe the OP is spewing bullshit its certainly not scamming anyone. Unless, they were offering to double users money themselves or advertising a site which in turn scams. I just think this user is either trying to troll a Bitcoin forum or has opposing views to most of the population on this forum.

I'll oppose it for now unless there's a little more to the story here.

Although, regarding the following;

The user sends multiple PM's about users on my trustlist - so I checked the neg from lauda and its correct.

I'm not sure I'm quite understanding whats being implied. What exactly is the user doing by messaging users on your trust list?

[Vod]

if I am wrong please let me know but that is my understanding of the system.

I think the feedback is OK, but I don't think a flag is warranted for having an opinion. 

I also won't oppose the flag as the OP is lying. 

[teeGUMES]

I clicked the link in his sig to see what he's all about and I came out with the biggest headache. Someone that can comprehend that shitshow of a thread might want to look at it. There's a potential that it could prove your flag better than the linked topic that you used. I could be totally wrong though.
Strangely crypto experts and doctors/lawyers with 1 activity decided to reply once and disappear forever in the first page of it.

[suchmoon]

I clicked the link in his sig to see what he's all about and I came out with the biggest headache. Someone that can comprehend that shitshow of a thread might want to look at it. There's a potential that it could prove your flag better than the linked topic that you used. I could be totally wrong though.
Strangely crypto experts and doctors/lawyers with 1 activity decided to reply once and disappear forever in the first page of it.

It sounds like a convoluted ponzi or shroom babble, not sure. On its own it's still not a good reference for a flag but if someone can pick it apart in a separate Reputation thread - it might be.

[MarquiseMuseum]

I clicked the link in his sig to see what he's all about and I came out with the biggest headache. Someone that can comprehend that shitshow of a thread might want to look at it. There's a potential that it could prove your flag better than the linked topic that you used. I could be totally wrong though.
Strangely crypto experts and doctors/lawyers with 1 activity decided to reply once and disappear forever in the first page of it.

It sounds like a convoluted ponzi or shroom babble, not sure. On its own it's still not a good reference for a flag but if someone can pick it apart in a separate Reputation thread - it might be.

I think you're getting carried away here by insinuating that there is a problem with Marquise $Museum. This is a project I spent alot of time with and its well liked with the Russian community on Waves platform where it also highly ranked.

If there is anything I can explain in more detail for you, then you can write to contact@marquisemuseum.com or pm me, as there is no one better suited for the task of "picking it apart".

if I am wrong please let me know but that is my understanding of the system.

I think the feedback is OK, but I don't think a flag is warranted for having an opinion.  

I also won't oppose the flag as the OP is lying.  

There are no lies here.

I clicked the link in his sig to see what he's all about and I came out with the biggest headache. Someone that can comprehend that shitshow of a thread might want to look at it. There's a potential that it could prove your flag better than the linked topic that you used. I could be totally wrong though.
Strangely crypto experts and doctors/lawyers with 1 activity decided to reply once and disappear forever in the first page of it.

Dr.Meszaros formulated an exchange listing disclosure and it can be viewed here:

https://docdro.id/fbDyDZZ

Andrew offered some early vouching by writing in the announcement page but we discontinued the collaboration because he was too expensive.

As far as I am concerned, Marquise $Museum is complete since last month after 2 years of building and all I am doing with it is negotiating active tracking on CMC and 1 more exchange listing with top 50 inorder to get that active tracking. I am also managing market making and rewarding users with weekly airdrops for bounties and votes.

Beyond this I am also researching some merchant payment options like blockcard for printing and distribution of a branded debit card that can be charged with $M-2. I think it's a good marketing method to send to VIPs.

I clicked the link in his sig to see what he's all about and I came out with the biggest headache. Someone that can comprehend that shitshow of a thread might want to look at it. There's a potential that it could prove your flag better than the linked topic that you used. I could be totally wrong though.
Strangely crypto experts and doctors/lawyers with 1 activity decided to reply once and disappear forever in the first page of it.

Art...I am selling art. Art that can be redeemed using $M-2 crypto currency:

https://www.marquisemuseum.com/portfolio

I am also offering a lending scheme that is using recent developments on waves chain to buy back the loan with staking profit that is airdropped every week depending on stake amount. Is this not permitted? If not, then I can discontinue that service but so far no one has optioned it.

The system works like this:

1. Lender buyes 100 million $M-2 in BTC market for 5 btc:
https://client.wavesplatform.com/dex-demo?assetId2=BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB&assetId1=WAVES

2. I convert the loan from BTC to Waves and use weekly staking to pay back loan (currently around 70k with 35 waves weekly repayment)

3. If Waves price increases, loan is repaid faster because it is recommended that lender resell into USD where I repurchase. So it is fixed in USD and the interest is x30 loan amount whereas I gain much needed business liquidity and also retain 50% of staking rewards for further development and profit. It is similar to business loan. The only downside is that the full repayment rate of x30 profit is 1000 years with a waves price of $0.6, breakeven at $8 is 36 months and at $100 per waves it is a 7 year x30 profit. Another downside is that the 64k waves loan is worth 7 million USD and the profit using my system is only 1 million USD. But because lender acquires from BTC market I don't expect BTC to gain x100 whereas it may happen with waves on a 2 year horizon. I expect waves to go parabolic into $544 within 24 months barring some failure.

100 million $M-2/5.5 BTC at 7200 (39000 USD)/0.6 (waves price) = 64k+7k private stake for 70 waves weekly airdrop of which 50% (35) is used for repayment. 35x4x12 = 1680 waves annual repayment rate fixed in USD equivalent when reselling 100 million in USDT market on waves dex (1 million USD/x30 profit).

[TMAN]

What happens when waves is worth 1/10th of what it’s worth now?

[MarquiseMuseum]

What happens when waves is worth 1/10th of what it’s worth now?

Then I have prepared 100k waves acquisition using private funds.

If it remains at $0.06 the repayment break even is 80 years but there may be some monthly fiat liquidity using company funds to accelerate breakeven, for example $50 or $100 USD fixed addition. So that's 25 years for money back. Anyone who thinks this will happen, should use their $40k for something else.

[suchmoon]

breakeven at $8 is 36 months

So if waves goes up by 1000%+ your lenders get a chance to break even? One of the stupidest shitcoins I've seen but there is no law against being stupid.

[MarquiseMuseum]

breakeven at $8 is 36 months

So if waves goes up by 1000%+ your lenders get a chance to break even? One of the stupidest shitcoins I've seen but there is no law against being stupid.

The offer is in BTC so technically they are not buying $Waves here. However, there is also the opportunity to redeem the portfolio art that I spent 3000 hours working with together with studios and artists around the world. So maybe, it can be worth a little bit in the future, seeing as the system $M-2 is built on is business patentable in America and was subject to Swedish evaluation in March. This means that the system I use in this project, was a world first, and that is historically important for value appreciation of cultural objects. For example, Andy Warhols Orange Marilyn gained x15 000 value from 1960 to 1995 because he was the first pop art inventor. I am not the first person to tokenize art but the methodology is first to market.

The patent application gained 2 out of 3 merits in novelty (no one has done this before), industrial utility but was dismissed because there was no new technical component and that is a requirement in Sweden as the most difficult patent country in the world. In America, business methods can be patented, so it can be protected there through WIPO PCT Priority until march 2020 but because it was dismissed in Sweden, and crypto is global, it will be too hard and expensive to protect legally.

The loan offer is one additional incentive to acquire the 15% $M-2 stake with some hedge.

Top wallets also receive dividends from sales profit if collectors redeem the cryptobook for $30k (it contains 125 grams 24k gold). And this is valid for that stack which is top 2 stack, and it can be used to redeem the book aswell, but the loan will then expire.

http://dev.pywaves.org/assets/BS1KFNR8zrXKBEWdUUvpaP6G57Hic3aESkwK7qQKdLpB

[TMAN]

What happens when waves is worth 1/10th of what it’s worth now?

Then I have prepared 100k waves acquisition using private funds.

If it remains at $0.06 the repayment break even is 80 years but there may be some monthly fiat liquidity using company funds to accelerate breakeven, for example $50 or $100 USD fixed addition. So that's 25 years for money back. Anyone who thinks this will happen, should use their $40k for something else.

What happens when waves is worth $0.0006 ?

Even based on current price sticking who on earth would trust you with funds with an estimated break even of 80 years and from my understanding that will mean 2400 years till they get the full x30 promised? Or is there a language issue here and you are saying 80 years to include the 30x on investment. Too early to work this out myself

[MarquiseMuseum]

What happens when waves is worth 1/10th of what it’s worth now?

Then I have prepared 100k waves acquisition using private funds.

If it remains at $0.06 the repayment break even is 80 years but there may be some monthly fiat liquidity using company funds to accelerate breakeven, for example $50 or $100 USD fixed addition. So that's 25 years for money back. Anyone who thinks this will happen, should use their $40k for something else.

What happens when waves is worth $0.0006 ?

Even based on current price sticking who on earth would trust you with funds with an estimated break even of 80 years and from my understanding that will mean 2400 years till they get the full x30 promised? Or is there a language issue here and you are saying 80 years to include the 30x on investment. Too early to work this out myself

Trust isn't a problem because authorities has $MM kyc and I would not be interested in a securities fraud charge.

Funds can also be optioned in smart contract escrow, which is why I believe that crypto lending will replace banking and p2p industry. This is a market BTC was not at all designed for.

If you want x30 guaranteed profit, naturally there is a downside. If waves is worth $0.0006, the fixed fiat repayment share of $50-100 monthly supercedes the crypto staking repayment, and repayment time for breakeven is then 36 years instead of 18. I could of course choose to convert the BTC/USD collateral into waves at a slower rate and wait for $0.0006 before converting 100%. Besides, there is private funds to cover up to $1000 per month.

Because the loan is fixed in USD, profit potential comes from price inflation of Waves which may or may not happen. But if it does go up alot, it's a nice x30 profit on a time scale of a few years and that's pretty cool considering that $M-2 can also be used to participate in the investment art portfolio.

This is a hedged offer to join a nano market cap project early and benefit from USP with zero loss exposure barring inherent risks of crypto and personal banking which is lower security in general, than banks.

If a lender believes that waves will outperform $M-2, they should invest in waves first. But the collateral is BTC and I personally don't think it will outperform good alt projects at this stage.

[TMAN]

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listen here cuntsmouth - you offered X30 returns....

what happens when waves (the shitcoin) is worth 1/100th of what it is now?

let me answer - everyone other than you loses out

so you are some skam cunt who thinks they can take peoples hard earned BTC

flag stands. neg stands

go fuk your mother if you want to fuk

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Yeah, I'd have to agree with Suchmoon's stance on this. Although, I believe the OP is spewing bullshit its certainly not scamming anyone.

And that's why I opposed the flag.  A lot of members hold extreme opinions about bitcoin, and I really don't think anyone is seriously at risk of losing money as a result of this one member expressing his.  I don't happen to think MarquiseMuseum is right about his take on bitcoin's future, but his opinion is certainly not worthy of a flag or negative trust. 

If I'm remembering correctly, Theymos doesn't want members using the trust system to tag people because of a difference of opinion--and that means neg trusting and flags by my interpretation. 

listen here cuntsmouth - you offered X30 returns....

If that's the case, it's a different reason to open a flag against him.  Ponzi schemers often get negged, and they deserve it too--but the flag this guy got from Lauda wasn't for that.  If you think he's trying to scam people, make a new flag with a reference thread that gives enough evidence such that it gets support from a good number of members.

[suchmoon]

Ponzi schemers often get negged, and they deserve it too--but the flag this guy got from Lauda wasn't for that.  If you think he's trying to scam people, make a new flag with a reference thread that gives enough evidence such that it gets support from a good number of members.

Unlike most ponzis, this is promising to repay from shitcoin staking and is admitting that it may take thousands of years. It doesn't have the "too good to be true" scammy odor.