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Title: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: dkbit98 on November 24, 2019, 12:53:56 AM
blurryeyed
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=885996  BPIP (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=blurryeyed)

One self-proclaimed Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter accused me back in 2017-12-10 that I was:

https://i.imgur.com/nm7F5I9.png

I registered on Bitcointalk forum on exact same date.
9 Months later I asked him nicely why he gave me negative feedback?
He never replied.

https://i.imgur.com/nULrvVV.jpg

Facts:
- I never knew about Bitcointalk forum before 2017-12-10
- I never participated in any Yobit campaign on bitcointalk forum
- I never had any Yobit signature on my profile
- I criticized Yobit actions several times
- I wrote about Yobit
- I write and delete shit
- I ignore members

https://i.imgur.com/c9Hzmfu.png


My answer for him was Negative feedback with explanation, in hope that he will use this Blurryeyed altaccount again and reply to me.
And he did, but not as I expected.
He is now threatening to talk with all members that I somehow 'tricked'   ::)

https://i.imgur.com/4ZhLpwk.png

His new feedback...  :D

https://i.imgur.com/fjI6y8S.png

Questions:

- Why did he replied more than one month after I left feedback to him?

- What about @yahoo62278 and Yobit campaign? No 'feedback' for him Blurryeyed?

- Should we give same 'feedback' to everyone who ever used Yobit?




I really don't want to be in bad relationship with any member of this forum,
and I would like to ask for suggestions from other higher rank members.

Thank you


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: suchmoon on November 24, 2019, 01:15:12 AM
I really don't want to be in bad relationship with any member of this forum,
and I would like to ask for suggestions from other higher rank members.

Thicker skin is the only remedy. You can't prevent anyone from leaving you a trust rating and you can't force anyone to remove it. Given that the user is not in DT and likely never will be (like his probable alt IconFirm being complained about here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203881.0)) you don't need to worry about it. It didn't hurt you in 2 years, did it?


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: dkbit98 on November 24, 2019, 01:30:59 AM
Thicker skin is the only remedy. You can't prevent anyone from leaving you a trust rating and you can't force anyone to remove it. Given that the user is not in DT and likely never will be (like his probable alt IconFirm being complained about here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203881.0)) you don't need to worry about it. It didn't hurt you in 2 years, did it?

Thank you suchmoon.

Sometimes I need to check with other members when I give someone negative feedback.
Trust system is a delicate thing, and I don't want to make a mistake.


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: blurryeyed on November 24, 2019, 03:35:04 AM
I just love this thread title - thank you! Shame it's self moderated though, I wonder why that is?.....but OK - I'll bite, once & once only.

Thanks for posting my verifiable & conclusive evidence of your account being used to shill/bump the Yobit scam exchange thread. As a token of my gratitude I would just like to add a little more evidence for all forum members to absorb at their leisure - it took me a while to scroll back to all the feedback I sent to the 100's of Yobit shill accounts that infested this forum back in December 2017, but I found it for you:

https://i.postimg.cc/DyT00Ssr/dk.png (https://postimages.org/)best free image hosting sites (https://postimages.org/)

Ooohhh look, there you are in the middle of a crop of Yobit shill accounts. You & your fellow shill accounts got so out of hand that moderators eventually deleted the entire Yobit thread, but not before I & others had tagged each & every one of you as can be seen by the amount of accounts I tagged if you care to search my sent feedback, which I'm sure you won't.

I'll address some of your questions:

Facts:
- I never knew about Bitcointalk forum before 2017-12-10

I never said you did.

- I never participated in any Yobit campaign on bitcointalk forum

I never said you did. I said you shilled/spammed/bumped the now deleted Yobit scam exchange thread.

- I never had any Yobit signature on my profile

Guess what - I never said you did.

- I write and delete shit

You certainly do.

- I ignore members

So do I. WTF has that got to do with anything?

Now, if you think that deleting all your shill posts for Yobit means you didn't do it then you're a bit daft.
If you also think that I would tag someone on the 10th of December when, according to your "self revised" post history your first post was on 17th December then you're really daft.
If you think that admins here can't prove that you have deleted your shill posts then you're really, really daft.
If you think that creating this pathetic thread will somehow magically make your history disappear along with my 2 year old feedback then your dafter than a big bag of daft things from daftsville.

I don't know if you somehow acquired this account from Yobit & I don't care either, but if you did then you should have checked it's history first instead of trying to delete it & pretend it never happened. It did & it's provable & verifiable.

As this is a self moderated thread (how transparent & honest you are), I have archived it for posterity.

Please re-read & oblige the last line in the PM I sent you (that you kindly quoted above).


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: hacker1001101001 on November 24, 2019, 04:11:14 AM
I don't think @dkbit98 deserves a tag for bumping Yobit thread in the past, nor its @blurryeyed's hidden agenda behind the tag. Both of them seems right at there own place.

If you see, when the Yobit campaign started here there was a big wave of shilling accounts and the forum was in a bit mess. Good number of people already lost large sum of funds on the Yobit exchange and all the feedback heat was around as you can see @blurryeyed's posted large number of similar feedbacks and some of them are sure to be true. The feedback on @dkbit98, could be out of spite at the most.

It would be better if both the parties come to a mutual conclusion here, and I insist @blurryeyed to remove the neg feedback as OP is not an Yobit shill, nor I think he likes Yobit or promotes it.


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: blurryeyed on November 24, 2019, 04:17:38 AM
Is that why he deleted all his Yobit shilling posts then do you think?.....

If admins or someone prove me wrong with a deletion log then I'll change it.

Thicker skin is the only remedy. You can't prevent anyone from leaving you a trust rating and you can't force anyone to remove it. Given that the user is not in DT and likely never will be (like his probable alt IconFirm being complained about here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203881.0)) you don't need to worry about it. It didn't hurt you in 2 years, did it?

@suchmoon: The reason I'm on that stupid shitlist is because I outed a scammer:

That's all you had to do in the first place to avoid this shitshow of a thread and get me marked in red.

So it's OK when you deliberately abuse the trust system to get someone else (me) marked in red for pointing out your scam involvement, but it's not OK for you to get tagged by others for involving yourself in yet another scam?

https://i.postimg.cc/cCQmvv94/abuse.png (https://postimages.org/)

Your moral compass is broken.

I even link to it in my sig because it's so pathetic. I like the work you do, but I'm surprised that you actually believe that shit.


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: hacker1001101001 on November 24, 2019, 07:00:16 AM
Is that why he deleted all his Yobit shilling posts then do you think?.....

If admins or someone prove me wrong with a deletion log then I'll change it.

You accused him of something and you should have some proofs to it. I think @LoyceV can help you here.

But still I don't think neg tagging for promoting some project is an good use of trust system.


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: The Cryptovator on November 24, 2019, 07:18:14 AM
@blurryeyed, what is your thought about who have been promoting Yobit by their signature? You may say that they are promoting cryptotalk, ok its fine. Question is where you were when Yobit directly promote their exchange here through their exchange panel and admin ban their signature? Did you tagged them previously? Isn't more dangerous from bumping thread? I think so. Just say that dkbit98 shilling their thread, don't know if that time Yobit scammed you or someone else. If not then you should not tag them now. Because someone promote a project and that project scam after 2 years then red tag isn't appropriate in that case in my opinion.

You are not moderator, so you should not do job for them. Prevent spam and bump should be handle by moderators. Although your red tag is not worthy, but trust system shouldn't work like that. Also you had not added reference link back on 2017. On the other hand theymos encourage DT members to learn forgive past mistakes. But seems you are making reason past mistake to add new tag. If you continue abuse trust system likely you will distrusted by multiple DT members and likely would get tag as well.


Eventually @dkbit98 exposed lot of scam, so it doesn't necessarily to tag him for 2 years back mistakes (if he did). He proved himself trustworthy by exposing scams. Do don't play with trust system if you have any personal issue with him.


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: LoyceV on November 24, 2019, 08:48:50 AM
Is that why he deleted all his Yobit shilling posts then do you think?.....

If admins or someone prove me wrong with a deletion log then I'll change it.
You accused him of something and you should have some proofs to it. I think @LoyceV can help you here.
I started collecting posts on September 12, 2018, and around August 2019 I started uploading new posts to loyce.club/archive (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167469.0).
For older posts, you'll need to get lucky with Archive.org (you can try the thread URL or user's post history).

@dkbit98: kuddos for leaving neutral feedback instead of retalliating in red!

Eventually @dkbit98 exposed lot of scam, so it doesn't necessarily to tag him for 2 years back mistakes (if he did).
I've never tagged people for spamming for Yobit, and I do get why some people have tagged them. But if it's almost 2 years ago, and the evidence has been deleted while the user has turned into someone who seems to care for the forum, isn't it time to "bury the hatchet" and de-escalate (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg49140832#msg49140832) and give a second chance?

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He proved himself trustworthy by exposing scams.
You could be making a big mistake here, see warningsigns' case (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4508262.0) for example.
It could also be you're right, my point is that busting scammers is different than returning for instance several Bitcoins. Stay vigilant!


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: marlboroza on November 24, 2019, 02:23:50 PM
@blurryeyed I have read your PM. I don't see dkbit98 as one of yobit's shill accounts, I don't know what he posted in their thread but this certainly doesn't sound like he is one of "them" or that he created account to shill for yobit (although he maybe posted something in their thread, I don't know, there is no reference):

https://i.imgur.com/YHhxRGX.png

It would be best if you both remove trust ratings you left to each other and forget about the whole thing.

Regarding feedback - it is neutral, I am not going to remove it, if that is what you have asked.


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: Theb on November 24, 2019, 04:17:06 PM
Is that why he deleted all his Yobit shilling posts then do you think?.....

If admins or someone prove me wrong with a deletion log then I'll change it.

You accused him of something and you should have some proofs to it. I think @LoyceV can help you here.

But still I don't think neg tagging for promoting some project is an good use of trust system.

Well the main concern here is whether or not dkbit98 here is guilty of shilling the project 2 years ago. Shilling is also counted as a lowkey way of advertising a website/service which in this case is Yobit. My guest here is blurryeyed somehow found a lose connection on dkbit98's date ofr egistration and earlier posts about Yobit which made him suspect that he is part of Yobit's alt account to shill here in the forum. @blurryeyed if you only have included the posts or archived the posts on what you think was deleted it wouldn't be a problem for you on proving your tag.


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on November 24, 2019, 05:33:11 PM
I also received a letter to the PM. But I’m not going to change my mind. I know the OP in today's affairs and this is enough to leave my review as it is.


Title: Re: Blurryeyed - Yobit Vigilante Scam Hunter Superhero
Post by: dkbit98 on November 25, 2019, 04:21:41 PM
Thank you everyone for your feedback.

I never asked anyone to trust me, and I never influenced other members.

Trust and merit system should not be abused,
or maybe sending merits and trust feedback to your alt-account is ok for some 'special' members?