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Title: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: upyem2k on December 04, 2019, 11:59:05 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: leowonderful on December 05, 2019, 12:16:30 AM
It's often easier, simpler and more inexpensive for projects to pay their bounties in whatever coin or token they're offering rather than something bigger like Bitcoin. I'm sure most project managers and developers are aware of the benefits of paying in BTC or ETH or really any major cryptocurrency, but considering a lot of projects now are just money hungry and don't care about much other than than money, those running the projects are probably okay with the potential of dumping right after launch.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: meanwords on December 05, 2019, 12:56:46 AM
Fear of dumping my ass, they just want to make a lot of excuses so they could hold the rewards of bounty members and dump before the hunters do.

Yeah, they can just pay in Bitcoin or Ethereum if they really are legit but no! Why would they pay BTC and ETH and waste money when they can just reward bounty hunters with useless token! No money wasted and free advertising! and there's more, you can't sell those useless token before they do, genius! Bounty hunting is the best.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: FaithInCrypto on December 05, 2019, 01:12:06 AM
They should feel fear especially if they don't have a budget to pay the bounty hunters.
It is already given that bounty hunters are there to make money out of their services so why not give them what they need after a few month's work?
They should have a budget for promotions, so there's no space for fear of dumping.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: ecnalubma on December 05, 2019, 01:43:15 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Its normal these days, but during the boom in 2017 and early 2018 most campaigns pay as they promised and no fear for dumps. It will be an advantage for hunters if they pay Bitcoin or Eth however they tend to pay tokens for mandatory adoption and liquidity.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Callanta787 on December 05, 2019, 01:58:11 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
If developers aren't hundred percent sure of their project they should start using stable coin or bitcoin to pay bounty hunters, the fact is its hard to see bounty projects that pays in bitcoin


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: terizla on December 05, 2019, 02:03:25 AM
This is normally to dump after payment and this most happen before bounty payments. Every projects has a plan to overcome their token price.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: o48o on December 05, 2019, 02:07:35 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

This is such a bullshit excuse from any team. The team shouldn't care about the price and it's illegal in most cases for them to try to manipulate it. Only reasons that they wouldn't pay is they want more tokens for themselves for dumping because they don't have enough ico money, or they want to manipulate the price because they shouldn't have done such a big bounty in the first place.

But like you said, btc/eth bounties are a perfect solution.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: LouVandetta on December 05, 2019, 02:10:23 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
This was one of the excuses they always gave to bounty hunters when delaying the payment schedule. Not only that, sometimes they've also locked the payment for a period of time until bounty hunters could sell them and perhaps make the price slightly dump.

It's not that easy to pay the hunters with bitcoin and other major cryptocurrency such eth. They prefer to pay with their own token/coin if possible. I believe there was a bounty back in 2017 that paid the participants with ethereum worth of their payments.

Projects nowadays barely even survive to reached the softcap, how come they would risk to pay the participants with bitcoin or major altcoins if they don't even know whether the project would have a got outcome or not.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: huu78 on December 05, 2019, 02:15:53 AM
I am thinking like that why not use Bitcoin or USDT for their payment if they are afraid of dumping. There is also a solution so as not to dump like a periodic distraction. And the Dev should be a ready buyback or order the price so as not to excessive dumping. I think to dump due to too many allocations and too many bonuses during the sale. Hence the price that there is up can be dumping because people need money from it.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: shinratensei_ on December 05, 2019, 02:38:51 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
As far as i know, they don't wanna see the investors will complain about the dump. I meant about the developer is a greedy party who doesn't wanna spent a small amount of money to create a bitcoin or ethereum payment. Even some companies that raised multi-million dollars from its ico doesn't even wanna spent less than 100k to pay the bounty hunters. They are having the intention to get free advertisement. That's the reality when everything controlled by the developer itself. There was something wrong since the bounty campaign has already occurred and that's about not putting escrow as a mandatory.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: wedosgibas on December 05, 2019, 03:04:06 AM
They should feel fear especially if they don't have a budget to pay the bounty hunters.
It is already given that bounty hunters are there to make money out of their services so why not give them what they need after a few month's work?
They should have a budget for promotions, so there's no space for fear of dumping.

Yes, but most projects are to start fundraising during ongoing campaign for their development capital, so they don't have enough money for the projects themselves, let alone paying bounty hunters? But it depends on the project itself, if they consider the value of digital coin asset important, then they will do their best, but most of them only rely on the market and do nothing to support their digital asset.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: btc-facebook on December 05, 2019, 03:30:54 AM
when the team is afraid of the dumping done by the bounty hunter, then it is concluded that the team does not have a mature plan,
they should have had an anticipation with that.
like doing a buy back.
the anticipation is important to complete dumping, not avoid it with fear,
if the project is serious, all is well anticipated.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on December 05, 2019, 03:37:58 AM
when the team is afraid of the dumping done by the bounty hunter, then it is concluded that the team does not have a mature plan,
they should have had an anticipation with that.
like doing a buy back.
the anticipation is important to complete dumping, not avoid it with fear,
if the project is serious, all is well anticipated.
Good point you had there mate.
A good team will anticipate every side not only the positive but also the negative side. In that way, they can overcome every obstacle that may come to the project.

Also to answer OP to his question,
Bounty campaigns won't pay btc or ethereum for their bounty participants, since bounty hunters is needed to spread their coin in crypto space. If bounty hunters will received btc or ethereum as payment, there will be less volume and lack of circulating supply of their coin in the market.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: knuckey on December 05, 2019, 03:43:36 AM
Indeed payment of hunter with bitcoin or ethereum is the right choice if the developer is afraid of dumping, sometimes the large allocation makes them not want to do this, because they think that earning funds when selling tokens is only for the development of the project. Seems to want to make a promotion, but afraid to spend a lot of money, honestly there are many ways if developers want to avoid of dumping and they can do it if they want.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: inanilujimi on December 05, 2019, 03:48:44 AM
Don't we know that if they heldup a bounty it is the initial fundraising process, because the project founders don't have enough funds to be directly listed on one of the exchanges.
That's why they don't have the funds for that, so they pay bounty hunters with their tokens.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: yazher on December 05, 2019, 04:10:16 AM
I experience such a thing when I joined some bounty and delayed the distribution until today. When they about to distribute the bounty reward of their participants, this so-called fair Developer has some technique that could minimize their distribution to the participants. however, this deadly method often becomes the reason for the others not to get their rewards. I'm talking about the KYC method that often used for their own benefits, with this, they have enough reason for not distributing their rewards to the bounty participants because most of them don't want to send their data to the project owner. But the real reason for this KYC method is to avoid the unavoidable dumping of the bounty participants. that's why they made such tactics to lessen the damage done by these loyal contributors.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: maydna on December 05, 2019, 04:43:13 AM
I am thinking like that why not use Bitcoin or USDT for their payment if they are afraid of dumping. There is also a solution so as not to dump like a periodic distraction. And the Dev should be a ready buyback or order the price so as not to excessive dumping. I think to dump due to too many allocations and too many bonuses during the sale. Hence the price that there is up can be dumping because people need money from it.

I guess using USDT for their payment will be a good choice because the Developer and the team will not upset to see their coins has to get dump too deep when the coin listed on the market. The USDT price does not fluctuate, and I think that it will be safer for the Dev and the participants. The participants cannot sell the token because their payment will be in USDT, so they need to buy the coin at the market, trade it with the other coin to make a profit. The Dev will have their time to guard their coin against the dump because the participants don't have their coin.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: angrybirdy on December 05, 2019, 04:47:14 AM
Don't we know that if they heldup a bounty it is the initial fundraising process, because the project founders don't have enough funds to be directly listed on one of the exchanges.
That's why they don't have the funds for that, so they pay bounty hunters with their tokens.
It is one of the reason. It is indeed true that they don't have enough money so they will start paying bounty hunters with the token instead of paying bitcoin coming from their pocket or directly coming from the amount raised in ICO.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Aabcde on December 05, 2019, 04:58:48 AM
Usually coins or tokens like this are tokens that are only pump and dump. Because dev only focus on price not development. I can say that gradually a coin like this will die when dev has made a lot of profit.
Yes indeed, all bounties should pay directly with coins that already have a market price rather than paying with their own coins. This is also to reduce the fake developers who just want to find quick profits.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Furryball on December 05, 2019, 05:05:00 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Many new projects are built to make gains off them by the teams, forget the ideas or benefits of using them, serious teams will never worry about price dump because they belief in themselves and the project gradual production, teams that are not serious are the ones who worries about price dump


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: FireBallex on December 05, 2019, 05:14:42 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Have you seen where by the project teams are the ones doing the dumping themselves? the truth is 90percent of new projects are money hungry, they are here for the gains and while people hold their tokens they have already dump what they have


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Kotone on December 05, 2019, 07:45:55 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

This is not appropriate. ICO or new project, tend to raise fund and give value to their tokens. Meaning they dont have much fund for development thats why they seeking help on the public. If they will pay btc or eth, then its good but not all project can afford or have deep pocket for this. Sometime when the project is good they can do this, but the conflict there is thr payment for hunters got delayed and resulted to complain. But hunters should already know this is the consequence of every campaign that should bear.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: SvonioneFromMangoCoinz on December 05, 2019, 08:00:44 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
That only happens to good projects because they know that their tokens are not shit. Many projects paying with their tokens mean that they are not really confident in the future of the project and they just want to take away the assets of many investors. This is something I learned after participating in a series of failed projects and they blame the market! meanwhile they did not develop token or marketing projects after completing the call.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: lienfaye on December 05, 2019, 08:14:42 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
They are delaying the distribution due to fear of dumping, whats important for them is to secure their earnings and do not care about the hunters.

Paying using their tokens are also their way to promote it and its beneficial for them and if ever the project fail it wont hurt them much since they pay using their worthless tokens. Unlike if they pay using popular coins which is expensive and needed a huge budget to be able to run their bounties.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: confreslamp on December 05, 2019, 08:22:14 AM
This is the biggest mistake of all projects. They are not doing a buyback process, every single project that bought their tokens back from hunters have stabilised their price and never had a dump to fight with.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: DevilSlayer on December 05, 2019, 08:41:06 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
They are delaying the distribution due to fear of dumping, whats important for them is to secure their earnings and do not care about the hunters.

Paying using their tokens are also their way to promote it and its beneficial for them and if ever the project fail it wont hurt them much since they pay using their worthless tokens. Unlike if they pay using popular coins which is expensive and needed a huge budget to be able to run their bounties.
That's true, most of the IEOs and ICOs are delaying their tokens because they are afraid that their coin will dumped. They do not have any more strategy and that's why they keeping their coin and they keep reasoning about it. Projects that dumped easily have no good foundation and that's why it price can be easily crashed.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: bysmf2000 on December 05, 2019, 09:24:31 AM
That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

I think not all bounty hunter make  a dump. allocation for bounty hunter approximate 1-2%. We must think who keeping a large amount the token?


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: naikturun on December 05, 2019, 09:54:24 AM
and what if after listing the market conditions down, there are actually a lot of factors that influence other than hunters, if they make a decision when the red market is like betting on something that is uncertain.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Dart18 on December 05, 2019, 10:00:03 AM
2 percent is the amount which is mostly given for the whole bounty campaign.
I doubt the market of their coin will really react in just that kind of amount.
It is not true.
It is their buyers who does sell.
If they see profit with how much they bought (including the bonuses) then I am sure they will sell it without even a little doubt.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Pamadar on December 05, 2019, 10:18:58 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
They are delaying the distribution due to fear of dumping, whats important for them is to secure their earnings and do not care about the hunters.

Paying using their tokens are also their way to promote it and its beneficial for them and if ever the project fail it wont hurt them much since they pay using their worthless tokens. Unlike if they pay using popular coins which is expensive and needed a huge budget to be able to run their bounties.
It's just another reasoning from the developers, the amount of bounty rewards can't dumped the entire value of the project if the team is really responsible, they are just delaying the process to make a blaming games, the timing of distributions will take place once the dumping is ready so investors and traders will see that the hunters are part of those reasons why the value is getting dumped.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Landak on December 05, 2019, 10:32:28 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
His fear might be because the total allocation for the bounty is too large while the price is not too high. If it is entered in the market and dumped by the bounty hunter, the original price cannot be held back for long, quickly the token value will become worthless when the price drops too far, the project team want to do a buyback, in fact, the action will be useless because it will continue to be dumped by bounty hunter. if indeed the project team does not want that to happen the solution is actually reducing the bounty allocation, payment with other options such as paid with bitcoin or ethereum in my opinion is not the right option.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: andika2018 on December 05, 2019, 11:55:18 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Some projects have indeed delayed payments to bounty hunters to avoid dumping in the market. I think this strategy is legitimate because usually it is listed in the bounty rule and to protect the interests of investors. But hunters should not need to be afraid if the project is prospective and has good potential


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: saba1256 on December 05, 2019, 12:01:48 PM
The payment in ETH or BTC is not easy for bounty hunters because projects create tokens in Ethereum blockchain that is almost $10 cost and you can create your token as you required and the collect ETH or BTC after token sale but they don't want to pay in ETH or BTC due to budget tokens for bounty and most of the projects don't care about dumping and if you joined good projects that are not affected by dumping.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: fuer44 on December 05, 2019, 12:07:55 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
yes, besides being easy in payment, there is no reason for dumping after the distribution of tokens to bounty hunters, because those accepted by bounty hunters are etherum or bitcoin, not their tokens. That's a very good idea, friend.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Beparanf on December 05, 2019, 12:13:32 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
yes, besides being easy in payment, there is no reason for dumping after the distribution of tokens to bounty hunters, because those accepted by bounty hunters are etherum or bitcoin, not their tokens. That's a very good idea, friend.
Some projects don't have enough budget yet at the start that's why they prefer to use their own token. But if they will have enough sources or do advance crowdfunding thru seminars before conducting bounties they might be able to pay their hunters with btc. Bounty hunting should be in bitcoin and eth now to avoid their coins dump as well a guarantee for bounty hunters to be paid.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: cabron on December 05, 2019, 12:33:43 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Paying BTC mean suicide for them worse than paying tokens they made. Unless they are very sure the project will succeed, they can pay BTC or give option to the bounty hunter whether they wanna accept btc or the tokens.

Teams who paid tokens afraid of listing their tokens when the tokens are distributed already this is why they won't distribute the tokens to the bounty hunters until investors have all dumped and they have all dumped too. After it, the project might be die already.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Lantind on December 05, 2019, 01:01:26 PM
This is the biggest mistake of all projects. They are not doing a buyback process, every single project that bought their tokens back from hunters have stabilised their price and never had a dump to fight with.
If we analyze it is indeed a mistake made by the project team, but it is also very logical because the team makes the project to be interested and bought by others, not making a project for them to buy themselves, so many teams do not buy back on their tokens, although that is very good for preventing dumping.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: boltz on December 05, 2019, 01:35:56 PM
Well they should be aware of this before they announce the bounty program if they're afraid of the dumping and they should have a buyback solution for the coins instead of creating a dump to scare some investors to dump their coins too. Another solution to this would be to release the bounty coins in schedule rounds for a period of 2 months and in this way hunters would not create a panic among the project investors and holders and besides this not all the hunters are dumping their coins after they get them.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Coltpython on December 05, 2019, 02:30:35 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

They will never do this because they do not place much value on their own native tokens. The irony of it is that investors dump project tokens more than hunters. Hunters only want to get paid for weeks of work while investors want to recoup their money with high profits at that. This is why investors will rather dump hard because they have more to lose.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: kodtycoon on December 05, 2019, 02:36:56 PM
agree, when they are afraid of dumping then at least they must be willing to do other alternatives such as changing coins to be distributed or payment to all participants, then by using other alternatives to avoid dumping i think it is the right choice and wise. but when they are not willing to, then at least they must have a certain strategy to avoid the fear of dumping but not by slowing down or delaying payments because it will adversely affect their own project


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: OneCoinMan on December 05, 2019, 02:46:02 PM
Everything is very simple, they are afraid to distribute the received ETH and BTC from investors, as the market situation is not stable now. It’s easier for them to distribute their currently useless token, which essentially does not cost anything yet. And they need ETH and BTC in order to support the life of the project in difficult times, because good projects have staff that work for salaries. The salary, while the project has not brought profit, is taken from the money of investors.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Shepard777 on December 05, 2019, 03:17:32 PM
Everything is very simple, they are afraid to distribute the received ETH and BTC from investors, as the market situation is not stable now. It’s easier for them to distribute their currently useless token, which essentially does not cost anything yet. And they need ETH and BTC in order to support the life of the project in difficult times, because good projects have staff that work for salaries. The salary, while the project has not brought profit, is taken from the money of investors.
This is not only a matter of fact, since most of the projects are scammers and they don’t want to share earnings with participants of advertising companies, they just pour these tokens onto the participants, make a very cheap listing on a bad exchange and disappear with funds in an unknown direction and once a month give signs life news that doesn't get any easier. They release news so that they would not be sent to prison.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: dimonstration on December 05, 2019, 03:33:20 PM
agree, when they are afraid of dumping then at least they must be willing to do other alternatives such as changing coins to be distributed or payment to all participants, then by using other alternatives to avoid dumping i think it is the right choice and wise. but when they are not willing to, then at least they must have a certain strategy to avoid the fear of dumping but not by slowing down or delaying payments because it will adversely affect their own project
They can portion the distribution of bounties if they feared that it will be easily dump. But in today's market there are only few markets who are able to succeed after their crowd sourcing and even they don't distribute yet the bounties upon listing their value lowered. It should not be blame to bounties hunters alone. They need to determine a good project development and tactics to keep their investors holding.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on December 05, 2019, 03:34:11 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
This kind of situation will approach to the teams who didn't have a good preparation. I mean, they are too impose to launch their project quickly where as they have many things that hasn't been resolved yet.

As you may thinking, to launch a project is extremely simple. Just make an announchment and held a bounty campaign and there will be many people who will ready to promote their project and seems like they didn't have to spend much money to pass this phase.

Just my opinion, their project will still be deemed as potential project by bounty hunter or their investor with a note they are always keep to give a good news such as make a corporation with big companies and etc.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: el kaka22 on December 05, 2019, 03:37:37 PM
It is not really easy to forget the time when you were in a dump, I have been in one for example, the coin was Nano and the price was around 34 dollars at its peak, it fell down to 17 dollars and I bought some thinking it won't go down any further, then it went down to 8 dollars so I bought even more thinking that would be the end and bottom.

Right now, it is 0.82 cents, thankfully I sold a lot of mine at around 1.2 dollars and I did made a huge loss but I am thankful since it went down even further then 1.2 dollars (not too much but anyway). So long story short when you are in a dump once, it is normal to fear something like that happening once again. I personally have hard time investing into unknown coins anymore, because I fear that maybe it could get a dump.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: awik p on December 05, 2019, 03:42:32 PM
agree, when they are afraid of dumping then at least they must be willing to do other alternatives such as changing coins to be distributed or payment to all participants, then by using other alternatives to avoid dumping i think it is the right choice and wise. but when they are not willing to, then at least they must have a certain strategy to avoid the fear of dumping but not by slowing down or delaying payments because it will adversely affect their own project
They can portion the distribution of bounties if they feared that it will be easily dump. But in today's market there are only few markets who are able to succeed after their crowd sourcing and even they don't distribute yet the bounties upon listing their value lowered. It should not be blame to bounties hunters alone. They need to determine a good project development and tactics to keep their investors holding.
besides that in one project also distributed rewards in full, but unlocked the tokens gradually. I think this is a good thing to do if you anticipate a dump. but it all depends on the development of the project itself to carry out its objectives



Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: mrdeposit on December 05, 2019, 03:50:17 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
It is possible to encounter such bounties, but very few. It should be done in order to counter the price decrease after listing. On the other hand, I cannot remember any of them who succeeded. Can someone show me one of those bounties that have been successful?


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: OasisDre on December 05, 2019, 03:59:17 PM
Its a shame that we have too many new developers that have no good idea how to control or avoid dumps, there are few ways to avoid this e g split bounty rewards to few rounds, can be paid thrice or even more


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Bananington on December 05, 2019, 04:30:18 PM
I remember Probit bounty that paid in USDT and some other bounties which paid in BTC, ETH, XLM, TRX, XRP especially. There was no blame on the hunters with regards price dump as always and this strategy is usually very efficient. However, considering some teams which haven't raised enough funds for project development, most likely their token will be distributed for bounty even though everyone is aware of benefits of paying hunters with BTC and other top cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Ken_terrance on December 05, 2019, 04:40:50 PM
If you heard from any project teams that they don't want to list because of fear of dumpers do not invest in such project, they have no good plans for the project and they only want the profits


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: jekanmasin on December 05, 2019, 04:47:03 PM
A good projects will never scared on dumping cause they know a valuable projects will not easily died. i can see peoples blamed bounty hunter for dumping the token after the release. i was not true at all. it was a good time to buy it cheap if only the projects are really good. No one want to end bad and the projects became shit tokens anyway.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: r32godzilla on December 05, 2019, 05:30:38 PM
Bounty managers are trying to find a solution how to prevent dumps, for example they divide bounty payments into batches, or lock coins for a period of time. But the reallity is that bounty hunters do not cause dumps, dumps are caused by whales that bought tokens with a huge bonus. Thats all.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: bitvalak on December 05, 2019, 05:45:31 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
In fact, almost all prize hunters do dumpers when they have received the payment they get.
They were afraid that prices would soon fall, so they dumpered it so that it could immediately be turned into FIAT money.
I think the project makers have analyzed this before they decided to hold a bounty campaign.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: adzino on December 05, 2019, 09:12:29 PM
They should feel fear especially if they don't have a budget to pay the bounty hunters.
It is already given that bounty hunters are there to make money out of their services so why not give them what they need after a few month's work?
They should have a budget for promotions, so there's no space for fear of dumping.
They do have the "budget" to pay the bounty hunters. Why wouldn't they have it in the first place when all they have to do is give them their shit tokens? Having no budget makes no sense at all since they don't pay them with bitcoin or other crypto currencies. You are asking why they don't give them what they need? Lol. Read what others have written. They don't want the bounty hunters to make any profit. They want to be the first people to dump the tokens before anyone else!


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Rick-C-137 on December 05, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

I see exactly what your talking about. I have noticed teams being liberal with their coins. I truly believe most teams out there have very little mental value of their own coin thus throwing it away on pointless bounties. Best project ever launched had ZERO bounty. The more successful project often gave very sparingly with bounty . A penny given is a penny dumped


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: bigcash2011 on December 05, 2019, 09:23:22 PM
That is because they are themselve greedy and they are selling you something that has only a promised value while they are taking from you brc or eth that has solid cash value, also the supply of their own coin or token is in their control so it is like free for them to giveaway that is why we should only promote serious and solid projects with professional teams who know how it all works.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: zhengqi on December 05, 2019, 10:25:12 PM
Still, it is much cheaper to pay with your tokens than with bitcoin or ether. Therefore, teams often resort to this method. In addition, not everyone can afford to pay with bitcoin or ether, because all the money they spend on the development of the project.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: cytpoway121 on December 05, 2019, 10:29:46 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

There is nothing like fear of dumping
This is just another justified excuses as to why projects don’t pay bounty hunters
How can 1% or 0.5% of your total supply cause dump ?


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: soramon on December 05, 2019, 11:22:08 PM
I think dumping always happen when the team send the tokens to hunters. But nowaday team make that excuse to delay the distribution. Sometimes they lock the token for a year to "maintain" the price. For some reason paying hunter with their own tokens much cheaper than paying with eth/btc.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Twinkledoe on December 05, 2019, 11:26:15 PM
Do they really fear of dumping from their bounty hunters? Take a look at the bigger picture of distribution, the allotted amount to those bounty hunters are very small as compared to the team's possession or their investors. How can they fear for something that the effect is very minimal in the market? Yes, the price will decline once those hunters sell off but if the project is strong, they will rise up again and will give its true value. Usually they blame those hunters for dumping but you need to check the amount that has been in the sell orders. And you will see that it is not coming from the hunters but from the team/investors themselves.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: poodle63 on December 05, 2019, 11:39:43 PM
Still, it is much cheaper to pay with your tokens than with bitcoin or ether. Therefore, teams often resort to this method. In addition, not everyone can afford to pay with bitcoin or ether, because all the money they spend on the development of the project.
It's not true dude. How can't the team pay a small money compared with a lot of money that they have been getting from the crowdsale? A product cost a small money when you have enough knowledge especially when you are having an expert skill like george hootz
that doesn't make sense to see a platform can't even pay a small money. Development? that's crap


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Shallow on December 05, 2019, 11:42:30 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

They do not fear any kind of dump but that is just an excuse to carryout their fraudulent activities. Let me even ask, does withholding or extending bounty payment prevent a token from dumping? The answer is no, many projects which held bounty payments are a shadow of themselves now to the extent they either refuse paying or otherwise. A good project worry less about bounty payment because they called for it and focus on how best to build their platform; there was one last year that paid with stablecoin others pays with BTC or ETH and yet it didn't kill the project.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: batang_bitcoin on December 05, 2019, 11:42:38 PM
It's because Bitcoin and Ethereum are more precious than the tokens that they will reward to their bounty hunters. If it's an easy thing for them to reward you guys with that, then most of the bounties did that already. But you know why most of them can't? because they can't commit a certain amount of budget that contains real value whilst rewarding with their tokens lessen the risk on their part. They have made an idea of locking or delaying the rewards for specific token holders.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: tenakha on December 05, 2019, 11:51:07 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Perhaps the developers themselves do not trust their coins. If they divide some amount collected from the sale to bounty, they lose from their own pockets. But project coins are under their own management and can divide as many as they want. Actually, the distribution of ICO coins in bounty is an old "tradition", but this is a good way to prove what the problem is to devs that complain about bounty hunters.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: swivel1983@gmail.com on December 05, 2019, 11:58:55 PM
I think that would be a good solution.Only not all developers are ready to go for it. To do this, it is necessary to have a good amount to pay for the work of bounty hunters.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Maslate on December 06, 2019, 12:28:30 AM
Basically they don’t have much fund to pay the bounty hunter with bitcoin are any listed coins, they choose their own coin so every hunters will have the chance to experience it. If they fear to lose big during the exchange listing, then they wont last because they can’t handle this one. Even if the hunters dump their coin, if the project is good then expect for a big bounce back.
Bounty managers won't never pay their hunters with bitcoin or ethereum because they are very expensive coins. Instead, they will introduce their own tokens for promotion even if it means dumping their prices after listing on an exchange. And with this, bounty hunters will never be satisfied with the amount of tokens and their efforts have never paid off.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: princecharles on December 06, 2019, 02:55:27 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

I wish the projects would buy into this idea of rewarding bounty hunters with ethereum or bitcoin. In most cases, the project don't care about the bounty hunters and are only willing to pay after the tokens must have been dumped by the team and investors. I'm personally of the opinion that its not the bounty hunters that dump the prices, rather it's the team members under the guise of bounty hunters. I wish issues as regards the altcoin bounty can change for the best.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Pamadar on December 06, 2019, 03:05:26 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

I wish the projects would buy into this idea of rewarding bounty hunters with ethereum or bitcoin. In most cases, the project don't care about the bounty hunters and are only willing to pay after the tokens must have been dumped by the team and investors. I'm personally of the opinion that its not the bounty hunters that dump the prices, rather it's the team members under the guise of bounty hunters. I wish issues as regards the altcoin bounty can change for the best.
It's no longer a secret but realities around new projects. Most of them are the reason why the project got completely dumped and die after.
No wonder why they gave the bounty after the coin being dumped, they wanted to make sure that the blames will be pointed to bounty hunters
who have no other choice but to sell the coins since there's no chance that it will grow back since the market value is already down.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: LbtalkL on December 06, 2019, 03:18:16 AM
If the project team itself fears the dump there is something wrong. They have no trust in their project so why should we? They only used bounty hunters as a shield or reason for dump. In fact, it's not. Bounty allocation is like 1 to 2 percent  only of their tokensale on IEO or ICO a very small percentage. I can't imagine that small percentage can dump a project? Unless they are one manipulating it.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Ailmand on December 06, 2019, 03:47:21 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Paying bounty through their token saves their project monry instead of paying via bitcoin or ethereum. Projects are blaming bounty hunters, but they should realize that the bounty pool is only a very small portion of their whole supply. If dumping is their concern they should also considering looking at the pre-sale investors who had a huge amount of discount at the early stage of their crowdfunding.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: totoy4741 on December 06, 2019, 04:34:19 AM
If the developers of the projects really wanted to their project to grow and make an establish name for it self they are doing something that would make the price stable even if token holders are dumping it. Mostly like they do buyback bonuses, staking or when they held bounties they their hunters in installment method, like they are distributing tokens in monthly basis or lock it up for a while to avoid massive dumping.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: nicolas1979 on December 06, 2019, 04:45:11 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Developer need customer to create market, dump situation will make users feel bad and leave the product fast. They already have roadmap and rules that need to follow and I believe they can manage the risk. Dump not always fear for all of us but somehow can create optimist the coin will pump. We only need to follow developer policy and let them work, easy isn't?


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: duuuuude on December 06, 2019, 09:19:57 AM
It will be easier and cheaper for the project to give out in their own currency, although there are companies that paid with ether and bitcoin but this is rare and it seems that really good companies do this.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: irixo10 on December 06, 2019, 09:32:44 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

This is not true, in fact no atom of truth; the team only use that as an avenue to mistreat their bounty hunters. Some will even lock the token for more than 6 months to 1 year and when times come for payment the token will just be worthless; now comes the funny part, they lock the bounty token because of dump and yet the token dumps before reaching the hunters, what happened? Who caused the crash of the token price? What did the team do to grow the token price? Answering this questions will open up the truth behind to what the team is hiding.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Zeke_23 on December 06, 2019, 09:37:03 AM
It will be easier and cheaper for the project to give out in their own currency, although there are companies that paid with ether and bitcoin but this is rare and it seems that really good companies do this.
Exactly, since they don't need to cost so much just to provide bounty allocation fund to their bountt hunters if they just send their own created coin as bounty rewards.
There are no bounties like that nowadays, it only happen before and you can't see something like that in any bounty campaigns today.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: piebeyb on December 06, 2019, 09:59:27 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
not all DUMPs come from bounty hunters, it can be from investors who get a bonus of a few percent from their IEO buyers or their ICO, it will be complicated if they pay bounty hunters with BTC or ETH, we see before the bounty hunter prizes are distributed, their prices fall first. they are afraid of dumping I think depends on the project, if their project and has a better product should not have to worry about dumping, but if it is worried it makes everyone realize that their products and projects are not classy, I think if they feel their products and projects are good no need to worry about dumping, this is just my thinking


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: starblocks on December 06, 2019, 09:59:52 AM
More often than not its actually the large groups of investors who bought in early that dump a token if it does not experience positive price action as soon as it begins trading and depending on the quality of the project you can pick up some bargains if it becomes cheap enough and accumulates


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: tiang_tower on December 06, 2019, 10:45:43 AM
I think that would be a good solution.Only not all developers are ready to go for it. To do this, it is necessary to have a good amount to pay for the work of bounty hunters.
The problem now is that project developers cannot afford the work of bounty hunters, so now rewards for bounty hunters have begun to run low, thus making bounty hunters frustrated with the project.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: meliodas on December 06, 2019, 12:37:45 PM
If they are afraid to see a huge dump on the price coming from the shares of the bounty hunters then they should minimize the allocated amount of reward for the bounty hunters. There is no wrong if the bounty hunters decided to sell their shares right away and it should not affect the team's motivation because if they really know that their project is worth it to pursue then they will not mind the dumps in the market.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: best123 on December 06, 2019, 01:26:05 PM
Paying with Bitcoin or Ethereum will be cool. The dumping issue atimes is caused by early investors that bought  at cheap price or big discount. Though some hunters dispose theirs right away while some of them do not do so. Buy back plan should be the best option to keep the coins price afloat.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: PuertoLibre on December 06, 2019, 06:58:36 PM
Instead of promising the bounty rewards in the stakes(ERC20 token), paying in stable coins will solve the mentioned problems efficiently. The dump by the bounty hunters disappointed the team because these people never put a single penny and they rush to make money as fast as possible. That's why respecting the future vision of the project and taking care of the project's reputation is necessary for bounty campaigns.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Coroline on December 06, 2019, 08:31:32 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
agree with you that many projects are afraid when the hunters throw away their tokens because it will affect the dump that everyone follows if they don't want the tokens they give to the hunters to be thrown out pay the hunters with btc or eth it's easier


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Crypto5060 on December 06, 2019, 08:38:05 PM
It's easier paying bounty hunters with the native token instead of Ethereum or bitcoin. Most of these projects hardly reach their hardcap and they won't want to use part of their raised funds to pay hunters when it costs them nothing to pay them with worthless tokens.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: VeeTeaSee on December 06, 2019, 08:40:34 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

do you really think that there is no many bounty programs because temas fear of dump?
nah
there are no bounty programs because its not as effective as its used to be.
if you have real skills to do something interesting and you can make something that will bring audience to a project, you will get rewarded for that..
but the typical bounty programs are not effective anymore.. dumping is not the problem


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: rdewilde on December 06, 2019, 08:47:11 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

This is so funny and even more funnier when people believe the reason for locking bounty token is to prevent dump. Most projects gives out huge bonuses to their investors and locks up bounty rewards yet the investors dumps on getting the chance. Any team that fails to do the right thing by working on its platform, the token will dump so let them stop using bounty as an excuse. If they care so much or blame hunters on the dump in price of their token, let them pay with other coins like USDT, BTC or ETH.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: huu78 on December 07, 2019, 12:35:28 AM
I am thinking like that why not use Bitcoin or USDT for their payment if they are afraid of dumping. There is also a solution so as not to dump like a periodic distraction. And the Dev should be a ready buyback or order the price so as not to excessive dumping. I think to dump due to too many allocations and too many bonuses during the sale. Hence the price that there is up can be dumping because people need money from it.

I guess using USDT for their payment will be a good choice because the Developer and the team will not upset to see their coins has to get dump too deep when the coin listed on the market. The USDT price does not fluctuate, and I think that it will be safer for the Dev and the participants. The participants cannot sell the token because their payment will be in USDT, so they need to buy the coin at the market, trade it with the other coin to make a profit. The Dev will have their time to guard their coin against the dump because the participants don't have their coin.

Therefore it is better to use such payments on current campaigns and their tokens only for some sort of staking or small event in order for their ecosystem to happen from the mass dumping that occurs if already distribution. But most do not want to spend capital to pay them and end their project dead because of lonely enthusiasts.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Mealea on December 07, 2019, 02:37:55 AM
The truth is that most times we have seen bounty hunters dumped but that is not to say that we don't have good bounty hunters that are ready to hodl. you cannot realy blame the team at times but then bounty hunters deserve their payment.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: oktana on December 07, 2019, 03:27:26 AM
This is so funny and even more funnier when people believe the reason for locking bounty token is to prevent dump. Most projects gives out huge bonuses to their investors and locks up bounty rewards yet the investors dumps on getting the chance. Any team that fails to do the right thing by working on its platform, the token will dump so let them stop using bounty as an excuse. If they care so much or blame hunters on the dump in price of their token, let them pay with other coins like USDT, BTC or ETH.
locking bounty tokens must also be seen in line with bitcoin prices.

if the alt condition as it is today will be a major disaster when the coin is unlocked, the holder will panic psychologically. Using usdt / btc / eth will also suffer losses if the developers estimate misses, most projects are currently only able to promise from stake campaigns, I think the developer is the one who has the highest anxiety level than the others, and herein lies the weakness of the actual project.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Chainsmokers on December 07, 2019, 08:28:44 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
It could be that the team behind the project took advantage by holding and throwing the tokens before the bounty hunters, so that when bounty hunters get their tokens, the price will be very far and arguably has no value to sell which ultimately makes the hunters feel that what they are doing it was a waste and a waste of time, but for the team in the project it was a benefit they could get.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: joshy23 on December 07, 2019, 08:36:38 AM
The truth is that most times we have seen bounty hunters dumped but that is not to say that we don't have good bounty hunters that are ready to hodl. you cannot realy blame the team at times but then bounty hunters deserve their payment.
They work for it so they deserve to be treated as part of the projects and allocated funding should be distributed in the right and exact time period. Bounty Hunters work then it should be the part of the developing team to provide necessary rewards that being offered to the bounty people. They're not the one that should be blamed as they are just looking for opportunities to earn.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: mirgo1791 on December 07, 2019, 09:07:36 AM
developer works on decision as referring use with limit on value with initial token on release with the terms of ico.
and gains on returns to help with following on extensive with chance as completing projects and deliver to public with manage as collaborating different works on table of briefing with team of development.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: btcdie on December 07, 2019, 09:50:34 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Often happens lately. but my assumption is not very influential, the allocation for the bounty on prices. and what I know is the allocation for bounties is only 1-5% of the total supply of tokens, so if the project has good prospects it will not be defeated by the bear (dumping). what is too conspicuous is usually the investors who do (dumping), when they see the prospect of a project that they don't like and for the payment of the bounty hunter, it is not very influential in my opinion. but I as a prize hunter is very happy if I can get a payment in the form of BTC / ETH, because lately I only get Shitcoin.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Doell on December 07, 2019, 09:56:12 AM
It's easier paying bounty hunters with the native token instead of Ethereum or bitcoin. Most of these projects hardly reach their hardcap and they won't want to use part of their raised funds to pay hunters when it costs them nothing to pay them with worthless tokens.
in contrast its easier to pay bounty hunter with ethereum than token that will drop the price of product ,developers will be able to maintain the price of product if paid by ethereum or bitcoin ,fear when unfounded dumps will actually benefit developers be able to achieve the future with their products and as far I see there are still many projects fail because of shit token become a virus for investor including paying using their products which will make investor nervous too for future


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: 10BTCaDay on December 07, 2019, 09:58:08 AM
The truth is that most times we have seen bounty hunters dumped but that is not to say that we don't have good bounty hunters that are ready to hodl. you cannot realy blame the team at times but then bounty hunters deserve their payment.
bounty hunters just must get their rewards, because they do a lot for projects at an early stage of development. without bounty hunters, it will be very difficult for the new projects to make some marketing


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: biddicoin on December 07, 2019, 01:09:47 PM
if using bitcoin or ethereum for payment, dev would cost more than their own tokens/ coins.
so, many devs use their own tokens to pay bounty hunter. that's a good choice to spread tokens to circullating

actually, dev doesnt have to be affraid losing token/ coins value in the market. as long as the coin is good, it would increase in the future
But if the coin isnt good, it would be the problem. the coin cant increase and dump as time goes by


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: danherbias07 on December 07, 2019, 01:10:01 PM
Is this about the ICO projects?
That is all I can think about since this had been talked about ever since.
Yes, I was a bounty for a long time and this discussion had been all over this forum time to time.

It is not really the hunters fault. They should really manage it very well, if they did then a dump wont be seen at all.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Edraket31 on December 07, 2019, 01:40:16 PM
Is this about the ICO projects?
That is all I can think about since this had been talked about ever since.
Yes, I was a bounty for a long time and this discussion had been all over this forum time to time.

It is not really the hunters fault. They should really manage it very well, if they did then a dump wont be seen at all.

It's not the hunters fault, but it is because a lot of scammers out there that were trying to buy potential tokens at dip so they are doing their best to create FUD and to  create panic in all people, which is happening too that's why many  investors and bounty hunters were selling their tokens right after they received it as they don't want to regret in the future.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Lantind on December 07, 2019, 02:17:23 PM
The truth is that most times we have seen bounty hunters dumped but that is not to say that we don't have good bounty hunters that are ready to hodl. you cannot realy blame the team at times but then bounty hunters deserve their payment.
The hunters have never blamed the correct team project, and only the incorrect team is blamed by the hunters, because working as a hunter is very tired, so it is natural when hunters blame the team that is not true.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: cryp24x on December 07, 2019, 02:32:37 PM
In my opinion, I don't think that they should control the bounty hunters' reward. They should give them the rewards on an agreed time and let the bounty hunters do what they want to their money.

What they should be doing is finding ways on how solve the problem about insufficient funds and strengthen the project's after the campaign.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Landak on December 07, 2019, 02:51:45 PM
Is this about the ICO projects?
That is all I can think about since this had been talked about ever since.
Yes, I was a bounty for a long time and this discussion had been all over this forum time to time.

It is not really the hunters fault. They should really manage it very well, if they did then a dump wont be seen at all.

It's not the hunters fault, but it is because a lot of scammers out there that were trying to buy potential tokens at dip so they are doing their best to create FUD and to  create panic in all people, which is happening too that's why many  investors and bounty hunters were selling their tokens right after they received it as they don't want to regret in the future.
usually what happens is like that, because someone spreads FUD, the hunters and investor rush to sell tokens that they usually hold (long terms) because they believe there is a potential for the increase but turns out to get dumped instead. So basically the problem is because FUD doesn't care whether the project is legit or not.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: jameshugo17 on December 07, 2019, 03:59:22 PM
If they're so afraid of bounty hunters, they're going to do it as Bitcoin or Ethereum. In this case, they will protect the price of the new project from bounty hunters !! The owners of projects that raise millions of dollars should not see bounty hunters as responsible for everything!


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: uray on December 07, 2019, 04:17:54 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
What projects are you talking about, is there any real projects in the back ground that i am not aware of, either the team behind the tokens will dump the coins in the market and if they are afraid of the bounty hunters why to ask them to promote the project and giving out tokens just like that, cap those and only give the tokens to investors rather than for bounties, all the token projects are scam in my experience and who cares who dumps first, the hunters or the project team  :D.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: JC btc on December 07, 2019, 04:18:23 PM
If they're so afraid of bounty hunters, they're going to do it as Bitcoin or Ethereum. In this case, they will protect the price of the new project from bounty hunters !! The owners of projects that raise millions of dollars should not see bounty hunters as responsible for everything!

Let's find something that will make us not fear, if we truly believe in the project like Bitcoin, then we should not fear of it, let's always keep in mind that in crypto world there's a lot of fudders that will make you panic all the time, if you truly believe in the project and you can sense that it's not real because your instinct said so and you know the future of it then you should not worry about it.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: MI6 on December 07, 2019, 04:26:57 PM
If they're so afraid of bounty hunters, they're going to do it as Bitcoin or Ethereum. In this case, they will protect the price of the new project from bounty hunters !! The owners of projects that raise millions of dollars should not see bounty hunters as responsible for everything!
Sad fact is, sometime they pay with their tokens because they don't have money at first open the sale. That is why they can only afford to pay bounty hunters with tokens and price is depends on ICO. So maybe allocation in USD is amount of bounty allocation x their ICO price. That is why sometime what bounty hunter's expected is really different when they see their token rewards in market. About bounty hunter get blamed for dump tokens, maybe they must see how their investor who get discount price do with their tokens first.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: kodtycoon on December 07, 2019, 04:36:42 PM
the reason they don't use coins other than the coins they release is to maintain popularity and they want to continue to increase market demand, but what happens is a big dumping and that's what worries them. i'm just not really concerned about that because every project has a plan and main objectives in the project so it's only natural when they worry that prices will collapse when the tokens are traded


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Sadlife on December 07, 2019, 04:55:22 PM
Initially, dumping of a project is normal cause that's what bounty hunters came to work for. Of course they could prevent that by showing that the project has successfully acquired big investors and a product or token that provides new features and functions and eventually the money that came out will comeback. There's tons of projects with crappy products because some of it are just made up to take away your money that doesn't provide actual results like cloud mining start ups.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Thomas-s on December 07, 2019, 05:12:24 PM
Initially, dumping of a project is normal cause that's what bounty hunters came to work for. Of course they could prevent that by showing that the project has successfully acquired big investors and a product or token that provides new features and functions and eventually the money that came out will comeback. There's tons of projects with crappy products because some of it are just made up to take away your money that doesn't provide actual results like cloud mining start ups.
dumping is not normal. bounty hunters do not have such an opportunity to sharply reduce the price of a coin. if we look at a good project - for example, Tokoin, then you will see that after the distribution of the rewards for bounty hunters - the price has not changed. The project is still very good and its token prices are stable. it all depends on the quality of the project.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: seleme on December 07, 2019, 06:07:39 PM
The Stable bounty payment will lead to other consequences such as losing the competition to the projects on the same platform, the greediness by bounty hunters. For preventing the dump of bounty tokens, the lock period will be an efficient solution. After reaching the higher audiences, having a second bounty and distribution more tokens will not leave the project in trouble.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: sorrros on December 07, 2019, 07:21:40 PM
Welcome to the open market, you can´t control the price. Even you didn´t list your coin, someone will do that on decentralized exchange. So, before you create a token, create also value to it to prevent dump.  8)


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: tianglistrik on December 07, 2019, 07:30:04 PM
Welcome to the open market, you can´t control the price. Even you didn´t list your coin, someone will do that on decentralized exchange. So, before you create a token, create also value to it to prevent dump.  8)
dump will not be prevented, every coin must have experienced a dump in the market but for coins that have potential, the coins can survive when the dump occurs and usually they will grow back for the price. so I thought that dump could happen to any coin but coins that could not last might be lost on the market


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: enhu on December 07, 2019, 07:54:24 PM


Paying BTC would mean them losing money already while the project still is uncertain whether it will have success. Team is still in the process of developing the project, they can't afford to lose money which is why they seek funds.

Welcome to the open market, you can´t control the price. Even you didn´t list your coin, someone will do that on decentralized exchange. So, before you create a token, create also value to it to prevent dump.  8)
dump will not be prevented, every coin must have experienced a dump in the market but for coins that have potential, the coins can survive when the dump occurs and usually they will grow back for the price. so I thought that dump could happen to any coin but coins that could not last might be lost on the market

They wouldn't be that confident to gain price after the dump with the condition of the market, even the project we thought wouldn't be affected are struggling to make profits. There are projects already that doesn't have any data on CMC because of the market condition while back 2017, its price was about $0.76. Worse part of me is that I didn't dump them and I'm holding thousands of it.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: aemma on December 07, 2019, 08:14:54 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

That's what they want us to believe but in clear terms it isn't. The question is, how much is the bounty allocation that will cause the price of a token to dump badly? Even when the tokens are locked, the token still dumps on getting listed, why? Because investors are those who decides the fate of any project, and it is how they are being treated in addition to what they see the team doing will decide if they will hold and support the project or if they will dump and move on. So every project should worry about development other than bounty hunters dumping.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Visbay on December 07, 2019, 08:29:00 PM
I think that would be a good solution.Only not all developers are ready to go for it. To do this, it is necessary to have a good amount to pay for the work of bounty hunters.
The problem now is that project developers cannot afford the work of bounty hunters, so now rewards for bounty hunters have begun to run low, thus making bounty hunters frustrated with the project.
But bounty hunters should understand that this is all just temporary situations it will be Normal again that’s why no need to be frustrated. As price gets normal so the bounty will also be fine we only will have to be brave and be wise not to leave this forum and keep working hard till we have this chance I hope soon bounty projects will start to pay good amount


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: romanij on December 07, 2019, 08:34:48 PM
I think that for most ICO teams bounty hunters are a free means of earning. They can poobshat huge rewards, but in addition to these words and the wrappers you get nothing. The projects are mainly for the enrichment of the organizers. That is, the team does not think about dump and pump. The most important thing is that investors have made large sums. Really high-quality projects are provided by institutional investors.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: henrybek3 on December 07, 2019, 10:29:09 PM
First, direct depositors need protection. But bounty hunters also work as advertisers. The project team needs to protect everyone. Speculators can behave very cruelly. PundiX is at very high prices. Now at very low prices. They happened in a very short time.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: KimmyF on December 07, 2019, 10:53:07 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Only bounty campaign token couldn't dump the whole market. There all of people involved by intentionally or unintentionally. If bounty hunters sell their token than how they will sell their rest of the token. Early investor also involved to dump. Without huge confidence any project couldn't offer BTC or Ethereum payment.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: sapnu on December 07, 2019, 11:02:26 PM
I think that for most ICO teams bounty hunters are a free means of earning. They can poobshat huge rewards, but in addition to these words and the wrappers you get nothing. The projects are mainly for the enrichment of the organizers. That is, the team does not think about dump and pump. The most important thing is that investors have made large sums. Really high-quality projects are provided by institutional investors.
Indeed, we all have fear when every crypto is dumping but we cannot do anything about it because it is actually normal, we can only do is to wait since cryptocurrency is volatile in terms of price, meaning the price is changing time by time when there is transaction happening all around the globe. But as of now, we should stay strong and have hope and keep on supporting the journey of every cryptocurrency especially to the tokens we are holding on. Because maybe sometime the price of that token you are holding will pump up so soon.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Triffin on December 08, 2019, 11:11:44 AM
Is this about the ICO projects?
That is all I can think about since this had been talked about ever since.
Yes, I was a bounty for a long time and this discussion had been all over this forum time to time.

It is not really the hunters fault. They should really manage it very well, if they did then a dump wont be seen at all.

It's not the hunters fault, but it is because a lot of scammers out there that were trying to buy potential tokens at dip so they are doing their best to create FUD and to  create panic in all people, which is happening too that's why many  investors and bounty hunters were selling their tokens right after they received it as they don't want to regret in the future.
I think we should be positive and not to blame anyone as market dumps because it is volatile by nature and we should have cooperative participation in this matter. If the market is down or dumping we simply should wait and let things be normal again and you will be able to obtain all your profit at once.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: valuater on December 08, 2019, 03:40:56 PM
Easily ? in my opinion current project is not making bounty payments with bitcoin or ethereum because they are certainly looking for cheap promotional alternatives and can save their costs and yes if with tokens I think their cost efficiency will be very economical, but of course, bounty hunters will be victimized by them, there is still a fair project with distribution of bounty campaign usually fastest is a few weeks after entering the exchange.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: bright4mech on December 08, 2019, 04:07:19 PM
Many projects are not paying bounty Hunter because of the dumping, your right, but that should not make the coin dumped at a particular exchange, therefore, bounty has a limit allocation, which the price can be pumped and has the project target price of the token for a future usefulness.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: CodyAlfaridzi on December 08, 2019, 04:20:58 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Simple answer: because they don't have the money to pay those bounties :D Giving away their own token is essentially cost-free, out of thin air. There's a cost that comes with it, that is bounty hunters dumping said tokens in the market. Again, the dev team probably doesn't lose money to this because they already received ICO money in form of BTC or ETH, but it no doubt hurts the token holder.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Kevondo on December 09, 2019, 03:06:29 PM
The truth is that most times we have seen bounty hunters dumped but that is not to say that we don't have good bounty hunters that are ready to hodl. you cannot realy blame the team at times but then bounty hunters deserve their payment.
bounty hunters just must get their rewards, because they do a lot for projects at an early stage of development. without bounty hunters, it will be very difficult for the new projects to make some marketing
That is so on mark. it is due to the efforts of bounty hunters that a project finally starts appearing on the screens. With the present number of projects, it is very difficult for new ones to make any room for themselves but with the help of bounty hunters, the burden from marketing team of project shifts towards these participants who then give their best to make the coin an article that can be trusted by investors.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: ilovealtcoins on December 09, 2019, 05:07:58 PM
some bounties paid hunters in bitcoin or ETH. but the value is far less than tokens if hunters accept to receive.
but anyway, if some coins want to have any value to community. They must do that, pay hunters in tokens, even if they dump after listed, it's still has good trading volume, and it's easier for investors to buy and sell tokens easily.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Oneandpure on December 09, 2019, 05:13:07 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Always bounty hunter participants fault with altcoin have lower price after listing on exchange market although they only get 3% reward allocation from bounty campaign, maybe your opinion is true how come if bounty participants distributed reward using ethereum to save ICO coin keep on higher price or not, there are we know who make coin dump ICO team or bounty campaign participants.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: icekohl on December 09, 2019, 05:39:12 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Because it's a very complicated relationship. Hunters promote the projectz, help them attract investors and the community and receive project's token which has no value, but the projects expect to raise fund from this bounty campaigns. Then if the bounty effect is good, the token will become valuable, both hunters and project will have benefit, otherwise both of them will waste their time.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Tcode53 on December 09, 2019, 08:38:28 PM
Crypto traders come in all shapes and sizes... Bounty hunters are just a few of the personality types that you will encounter out there, hunters dump tokens but that doesnt necessarily mean they are involved in all dump that affects a token price


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: gundala on December 10, 2019, 10:28:45 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Therefore, the development team that blames bounty hunters for causing the dump is an irresponsible person. It is important before running bounty campaigns, they must calculate their allocations well, and weigh how much effect they have on prices that they can maintain in the market. Moreover, the greater the risk when the market is saturated. They blame the bounty hunter for the sake of maintaining a good name, even though it is just nonsense.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Chuky92 on December 10, 2019, 10:44:04 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

No No, I don't concur with you, there is nothing like fear of dump rather it is a well laid plan to delay hunters from getting paid. Okay, even after locking hunters rewards, who are those that dump their tokens which always lead to the dump in price? They blame hunters yet failed to do their own part by ensuring the platform grows to accordingly. In most projects, once dump sets in, the team will start giving excuses, are hunters also the cause? Furthermore, if any team is afraid of hunters selling their rewards, there are other payment options like use of ETH or Stablecoin.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Visbay on December 11, 2019, 07:42:49 AM
Many projects are not paying bounty Hunter because of the dumping, your right, but that should not make the coin dumped at a particular exchange, therefore, bounty has a limit allocation, which the price can be pumped and has the project target price of the token for a future usefulness.
Bounty hunters become so sad because with crypto payments dumping made bounty payments down. When the market of crypto coins becomes down it makes payments down in bounty hunters. Crypto market is down because of panic sellers those who sell their coin earlier actually make the price down. So this process is natural and because of volatility that’s why no need to be a worry.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: VDraci on December 11, 2019, 07:49:39 AM
Fear not if the coins and tokens you are holding are very good, even if they dump in price today they will increase tomorrow, crypto can't be stable since they aren't stable coins, volatility will always be present


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Itsmylife on December 11, 2019, 08:51:17 AM
Fear not if the coins and tokens you are holding are very good, even if they dump in price today they will increase tomorrow, crypto can't be stable since they aren't stable coins, volatility will always be present
Good does not mean the price will rise to the price you bought earlier. You must know that the number of tokens/coins will be opened/mined each day, there will be a time when supply exceeds demand.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: TheClownSong on December 11, 2019, 09:42:13 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Fear of dumping should not be unreasonable because if the project is good and attractive to many investors, the project will still go up in price even if the reward for bounty hunters is paid. Hunters will not be dumping tokens if the project promises and the developer team provides ongoing information to investors and hunters


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Onuohakk on December 11, 2019, 04:16:30 PM
Only 10% of the project token are assigned to the bounty hunters. If the project has potential, I don't see whereby 10% dump of the bounty hunters will affect the token price of the project. Why is it so now, is because there's no much investors on board to invest in crypto as before (2017) when the market is bullish.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: GideonGono on December 11, 2019, 05:27:35 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

But that was hard for them if they are giving a value coin than a coin that becoming or preparing for value. That was good for the bounty hunters but for the project that was not. By the participants of getting their coin, there are some hunters who also hold the coin but you have a point that after they hold it, the coin was being dumped and that was the cycle of altcoin.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Prompyboo on December 11, 2019, 05:56:50 PM
Only 10% of the project token are assigned to the bounty hunters. If the project has potential, I don't see whereby 10% dump of the bounty hunters will affect the token price of the project. Why is it so now, is because there's no much investors on board to invest in crypto as before (2017) when the market is bullish.
10 percent for bounty hunters? in which campaign did you see such a generous reward? As a rule, only 3-4 percent of the total number of coins is allocated to a bounty campaign.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: lighpulsar07 on December 11, 2019, 05:58:54 PM
This is the problem when it comes to ICO/IEO


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Apinya_Anong1111 on December 11, 2019, 07:30:48 PM
fear or avoid paying bounty hunters after an exchange is not recommended. You should be confident in a strong market that will not shed after listing exchanges.  :)


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: traducteurTor on December 11, 2019, 07:34:37 PM
making your bonuses with bitcoin or ethereum for payment is extremely cool and effective easily. This will be a lot safer and lessen the fear that bounty hunters will dump after listing exchanges.  ;)


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: biddicoin on December 11, 2019, 07:39:00 PM
making your bonuses with bitcoin or ethereum for payment is extremely cool and effective easily. This will be a lot safer and lessen the fear that bounty hunters will dump after listing exchanges.  ;)
it would cost more for devs. And make the coin doesnt have good distribution too
I dont that's a good circulating, bcz just small people percentage who have the coin. It makes easy to manipulate

If there are many people who have, it would be good distribution.
Beside that, bounty allocation is usually just 1-5%, which is just small percentage of all total supply. It shoudnt affect to price IF the coin is trully good


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: bittick on December 11, 2019, 11:37:24 PM
making your bonuses with bitcoin or ethereum for payment is extremely cool and effective easily. This will be a lot safer and lessen the fear that bounty hunters will dump after listing exchanges.  ;)
that's true but the problem is not so many developers having the fund to pay the participants in the ethereum or bitcoin. that's why they have used their token as a payment to the bounty participants.
but also the developer doesn't wanna waste their native coin raised from the crowdsale to pay the hunters.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: wajik-tempe on December 11, 2019, 11:41:50 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
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They won't do that because most of the project has no money to do that, they paid us with their tokens because it's free. The money that they collected from ico are will be used for the exchange listing itself, and also for other needs such as their team salary and etc


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Henrytrust on December 12, 2019, 12:53:51 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

I wish projects will listen to your suggestion and give bounty hunters reward in ethereum or bitcoin. That would obviously safe them the stress of bothering about hunters dumping their tokens. Hunters on the other hand would consider the reward more lucrative and flock to such projects.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: asus09 on December 12, 2019, 01:03:24 AM
making your bonuses with bitcoin or ethereum for payment is extremely cool and effective easily. This will be a lot safer and lessen the fear that bounty hunters will dump after listing exchanges.  ;)
that's true but the problem is not so many developers having the fund to pay the participants in the ethereum or bitcoin. that's why they have used their token as a payment to the bounty participants.
but also the developer doesn't wanna waste their native coin raised from the crowdsale to pay the hunters.
Why not they have not enough ethereum because their coins success sold out during ICOs selling time and allocated reward for bounty campaign participants only 2%, let's think together with coin allocation in some ICOs project, they are giving more than 30% for their team advice and only giving 2% for bounty participants, will available price down if bounty hunter sell coin only allocated 2%, how come so far team advice sell their coin to make it dump.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Dickiy on December 12, 2019, 02:43:54 AM
FEAR OF DUMPING! I think wrong in this case, my advice is not FEAR OF DUMPING but think to improve the situation when DUMPING happens because when the lowest price occurs then that's the treasure that you find in your investment. ;)


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Xxmodded on December 12, 2019, 03:53:53 AM
Bounty manager have new way how to keep coin with higher price and fear of dumping by distributing several part, many bounty campaign allocated distribution for first payment about 30% from allocated coin and then next payment giving 30% again for one month later and distributed last payment about 40% at next month, I think is good and potential how to keep coin have higher price and fear of dump.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: andriarto on December 12, 2019, 04:02:23 AM
FEAR OF DUMPING! I think wrong in this case, my advice is not FEAR OF DUMPING but think to improve the situation when DUMPING happens because when the lowest price occurs then that's the treasure that you find in your investment. ;)
therefore we should not be greedy, so after that we observe market movements to take positions again. usually people assume that prices will be strong up continuously, without them realizing the danger of threatening and they do not close positions, so that disaster comes



Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: llecrf on December 12, 2019, 04:44:03 AM
I can see there are many bounty programs here but some of the project development teams don't make payments for several reasons, dumping will always occur after the tokens have been registered in the crypto exchange, but if we look at the allocation of tokens from the total number of tokens the project has, then I think dumping will not be a reason for delaying the distribution of payments to bounty participants.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 12, 2019, 06:54:48 AM
FEAR OF DUMPING! I think wrong in this case, my advice is not FEAR OF DUMPING but think to improve the situation when DUMPING happens because when the lowest price occurs then that's the treasure that you find in your investment. ;)

When the dump comes, that will be the best time for us to buy the coin at a low price, so we don't have to worry if the price will be down for more. We could only wait for the price to be back to the higher price so we can sell that coin and take the profit. If that is happening with the potential coin, I am sure that we will make a big profit from that coin since the potential coin will be increased so high.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: pamsugas on December 12, 2019, 07:40:36 AM
it was their plan to maintain stability so that tokens did not fall made hunters dumper. why not pay with eth or bitcoin? they also need other funding, maybe their funds are not enough to pay hunters.
but it's normal to see projects that postpone payments that have certainly ensured that the team did not have a good idea they were very ugly and I don't think they will live long.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: zhekinsp on December 12, 2019, 07:44:18 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Bounty allocations are in millions for most of the bounty campaigns,imagine if they are going to pay with the real money it will be huge amount to be honest for advertising and projects can't afford it so they are giving nothing other than their tokens.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: bobyhodob on December 12, 2019, 07:44:54 AM
FEAR OF DUMPING! I think wrong in this case, my advice is not FEAR OF DUMPING but think to improve the situation when DUMPING happens because when the lowest price occurs then that's the treasure that you find in your investment. ;)
therefore we should not be greedy, so after that we observe market movements to take positions again. usually people assume that prices will be strong up continuously, without them realizing the danger of threatening and they do not close positions, so that disaster comes



That was classic move but yes it's very useful for invest longterm
but i would prefer if btc dump came and bought at a cheap price i would trade with short term or maybe I'll put some of my money in altcoin


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Dickiy on December 12, 2019, 12:51:48 PM
FEAR OF DUMPING! I think wrong in this case, my advice is not FEAR OF DUMPING but think to improve the situation when DUMPING happens because when the lowest price occurs then that's the treasure that you find in your investment. ;)
therefore we should not be greedy, so after that we observe market movements to take positions again. usually people assume that prices will be strong up continuously, without them realizing the danger of threatening and they do not close positions, so that disaster comes



That was classic move but yes it's very useful for invest longterm
but i would prefer if btc dump came and bought at a cheap price i would trade with short term or maybe I'll put some of my money in altcoin
of course friends maybe you like short-term investments because of a need or you can't wait for bigger things because the ones that last are very enjoyable in bed  ;D and if you choose altcoin for the short term it's pretty good but still be aware of the big investor trap 8)


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: ultrloa on December 12, 2019, 12:58:48 PM
FEAR OF DUMPING! I think wrong in this case, my advice is not FEAR OF DUMPING but think to improve the situation when DUMPING happens because when the lowest price occurs then that's the treasure that you find in your investment. ;)
therefore we should not be greedy, so after that we observe market movements to take positions again. usually people assume that prices will be strong up continuously, without them realizing the danger of threatening and they do not close positions, so that disaster comes



That was classic move but yes it's very useful for invest longterm
but i would prefer if btc dump came and bought at a cheap price i would trade with short term or maybe I'll put some of my money in altcoin

Actually altcoin selections is better option but for now all of them are sleeping right now so maybe you need to wait for it to move before you can earn a decent money and that is an disadvantage that's why I choose short trades since every movement of bitcoins is so profitable for traders who knows what they are doing in the market.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: AakZaki on December 12, 2019, 01:10:54 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: owengtam09 on December 12, 2019, 01:45:07 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will save them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
They are making their own token so that they are not making payments using bitcoin or ethereum or I think yes, it is possible that after their project is not successful, maybe they can give bounty hunters some bitcoin or ethereum as payment for joining and making their project possible. Projects sometimes are not getting successful and we are already aware of that, so maybe it is also a good thing that owners of bounties do something to pay those hunters some of their efforts using bitcoin or ethereum.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: topbitcoin on December 12, 2019, 01:49:26 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.
Bounty hunter not lose anything. Maybe because of that, they will sell when they it is a good price. But i think some of them, or maybe a lot of them usually wait for the ICO price and maybe they can hold longer, because of reason that i mention before, they not lose anything if they hold. For me personally maybe as long some project pay bounty hunter according date that they are said, no problem for me.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: totoy4741 on December 12, 2019, 02:28:52 PM
That is maybe because the team developers want to have their tokens spread out and the community to be aware of it. If you are going to give hunters an ETH or BTC payments it is another loss to their funds most especially if the ICO or IEO don't turn out really well. Most Bounty Campaigns nowadays lock their tokens out before distributing or the team would distribute rewards installment (monthly basis just like what Tokoin is doing) to about massive dumping.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Dickiy on December 13, 2019, 05:23:04 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.
most prize hunters are like that and very rarely are gift hunters and strong holders, and it seems to me that you are a strong holder! ;D


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: btcdie on December 13, 2019, 07:02:13 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.
Not my criterion in holding coins from bounty results for a long time, the longest I have held in altcoin only within two months after listing on the exchange. on average for now I only get shitcoin, so if I get a valuable coin it's happiness and (toast)  8). due to the fact that currently accepted altcoin there is no potential when the market conditions are bad. If you can hold altcoin in the long run that means you are great at taking risks.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: imstillthebest on December 13, 2019, 07:11:19 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.
Not my criterion in holding coins from bounty results for a long time, the longest I have held in altcoin only within two months after listing on the exchange. on average for now I only get shitcoin, so if I get a valuable coin it's happiness and (toast)  8). due to the fact that currently accepted altcoin there is no potential when the market conditions are bad. If you can hold altcoin in the long run that means you are great at taking risks.

same here , i dont also like to hodl my coins for a long time but i love to sell them as soon as poosible so that i can enjoy my hardwork from working a long time in a bounty that i joined  . 

short or long term , both are still have risk  . once we enter the world of crypto we are already expose to many risk  . also we all have a fear of dumping , that is why i choose to be a short term hodler/trader but for an ico owner its their responsibility already if their coins would dump or not  .


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Furious 7 on December 13, 2019, 07:26:11 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.
Not my criterion in holding coins from bounty results for a long time, the longest I have held in altcoin only within two months after listing on the exchange. on average for now I only get shitcoin, so if I get a valuable coin it's happiness and (toast)  8). due to the fact that currently accepted altcoin there is no potential when the market conditions are bad. If you can hold altcoin in the long run that means you are great at taking risks.

You are the same as me when we receive a valuable token from a bounty, so I will sell it no matter what price it is, I will definitely sell it because if we hold it within 1-2 months, it will sometimes be worthless. When we received the token when it was only $ 100 then held a month later to $ 20, it was very annoying so I never held the token long from the bounty and I thought it would be shitcoin.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Paulinerims on December 13, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Itsmylife on December 13, 2019, 08:32:21 AM
Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
Not at all, bounty only is a small part of the total supply so it can not effect too much to the market. To make a huge dump, we need a combination of fudders,whales and panic investors.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: seleme on December 13, 2019, 08:38:06 AM
Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
Not at all, bounty only is a small part of the total supply so it can not effect too much to the market. To make a huge dump, we need a combination of fudders,whales and panic investors.
For small volume altcoin, even half of the bounty hunter's dump is enough to collapse the price, the market will react quickly to the huge supply. imagine dumping of the 2 percent of the bounty allocation directly to the market orders, what will happen is obvious. That is the reason investors join the bounty hunters and they dump first for collecting cheap later after dip prices.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: joshy23 on December 13, 2019, 08:46:10 AM
That is maybe because the team developers want to have their tokens spread out and the community to be aware of it. If you are going to give hunters an ETH or BTC payments it is another loss to their funds most especially if the ICO or IEO don't turn out really well. Most Bounty Campaigns nowadays lock their tokens out before distributing or the team would distribute rewards installment (monthly basis just like what Tokoin is doing) to about massive dumping.
If the project is for real have the intentions to continue the progress the team will not be doing that and not being afraid to any dumped that might happened. They will keep what they've promised as hunters can also be convert to investors if the project do have real potentials to grow. Those developers who's delaying the distributions are unprepared to any scenarios that might happened and most are just creates coins for personal gains.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Lantind on December 13, 2019, 09:02:37 AM
Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
Hello, who said the pay was huge? and who pays so much? please explain in full, don't just write a single word, because it can make a lot of people curious about what you mean. And every project is always open to do the prize program again, although it has also been done before, you can see examples such as project credits, swapzilla, and several other projects.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: dimox on December 13, 2019, 09:08:29 AM
but considering a lot of projects now are just money hungry and don't care about much other than than money, those running the projects are probably okay with the potential of dumping right after launch.
because they are already to got a lot of money, no need afraid if their goal are achieved.
I think because the project doesn't have the money to pay the bounty hunters, they only want to pay with the tokens they made, tokens that don't have a price yet
i dont know about 'doesnt have money to pay bounty' when they reach softcap, they can calculate how much they spend their money for hunter.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: andycarrol on December 13, 2019, 09:18:31 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

it indicates that their project is not good, as long as I join the bounty, sometimes there are some bounties who are afraid of it because investors are too fussy they are afraid of the price being dumped by the bounty hunter even though if calculated they only give 1-2% of supply or token sold. I don't think there will be a deep drop if it's all thrown away, sometimes they won't throw it together, more towards to hold. if the project is good and earns a lot of money shouldn't worry about it, eventually, the price will recover. they can't possibly pay with ETH, because they also don't want to lose money from the sale of their tokens.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: BlackFor3st on December 13, 2019, 09:30:17 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

This kind of thinking is what makes the bounty campaign more complicated for bounty hunters especially the newbies as they will fear that their work and effort will end up to nothing.

But before we conclude anything we should think first if how much the project owners allocate to their bounty campaigns. Usually it ranges from 1-10% of their total coins/tokens but they often offers like 1-3%, do you think this kind of allocation will really affect the price of their tokens/coins upon reaching the exchange? Frankly speaking, the dump of their investors and team behind the project is what makes the price of their tokens/coins goes down pretty badly.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: bittick on December 13, 2019, 09:35:03 AM
Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
Not at all, bounty only is a small part of the total supply so it can not effect too much to the market. To make a huge dump, we need a combination of fudders,whales and panic investors.
even if that was a small percentage from the total supply and imagine if there will be no book erders in the market and can such coin avoid the dump? it cant. Dump is not always caused by the whales or even panic investors and try to do your research about that.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: slaman29 on December 13, 2019, 09:56:10 AM
They are making their own token so that they are not making payments using bitcoin or ethereum or I think yes, it is possible that after their project is not successful, maybe they can give bounty hunters some bitcoin or ethereum as payment for joining and making their project possible. Projects sometimes are not getting successful and we are already aware of that, so maybe it is also a good thing that owners of bounties do something to pay those hunters some of their efforts using bitcoin or ethereum.

You really don't know how the world works yet then, do you?

This is how things should happen ideally, and in a nice world. But in reality project owners are selfish. As they are businessmen, not really crypto people. Remember, they need money, that's the whole reason they set up the project in the first place. If they didn't find success what makes you think they care about bounty hunters, who themselves also don't give a thought to the project other than for money?


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: sjbi on December 13, 2019, 10:07:16 AM
This is a good idea that I have been demanding for. But there are some projects that want to make money just through crowdfunding and a means of ICO, IEO etc for the benefit of themselves only. They are not so serious about making their projects a success. They just depend on a luck. So they do not dare pay bounty in eth or btc, but reward bounty hunters in their probably useless tokens.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: aioc on December 13, 2019, 10:23:56 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Bitcoin and Ethereum are already their profits, they cannot make a guaranty that their token will have a value at all in the market and at the price they want on it, if the project is a scam, they can always leave the project and take the profit with them, that is the sales of their token.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: felissss500@gmail.com on December 13, 2019, 10:57:48 AM
but what's the point in coins if they are not listed on the exchange. Least of all the team thinks about the income of hunters, and first of all about their own profits and minimize losses. there are not so many bounty hunters that they greatly shaken the value of the coin. this fact is quite exaggerated among hunters


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 13, 2019, 10:58:50 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
One reason why they are paying the bounty hunters their own native token instead of either Bitcoin or Ethereum is that, they don't want to invest more money to marketing. They don't want to invest their own money into a token which is not sure if it will become a successful project or not. That is the reason why they are not paying thru BTC or ETH.

With the fear of dumping, yes bounty hunters are one of the dumpers but it will be a few % of the whole token value compare to the investors whose percentage is far more than what is allocated to give rewards to the bounty hunters. If you will see the allocation between the bounty hunters and investors, it is always the investors who has a highest allocation and that is why they have more chances of dumping it so the fault goes to the investors themselves. Also the team too are the ones dumping their own token for the sake of profit.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: tsaroz on December 13, 2019, 11:00:44 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

A real project focuses on to achieve their roadmap. A dumping of 5% of their token won't make any difference. Exchange listing is one of the checkpoint in the roadmap.
The team really has no time watching at the coin price movement if they are really dedicated to deliver what they have stated they would.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Amel on December 13, 2019, 01:25:28 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

A real project focuses on to achieve their roadmap. A dumping of 5% of their token won't make any difference. Exchange listing is one of the checkpoint in the roadmap.
The team really has no time watching at the coin price movement if they are really dedicated to deliver what they have stated they would.

Yeah, the situation happened in 2017, but not now. Of the many projects from last year, most of them have become shitcoin now, almost all of them. I have also seen some real projects in the past year, but even though the developers have worked hard according to what they stated before. All of that is still inferior to a dumping done by bounty hunters, in fact this is not the fault of the bounty hunters but the market has turned around, where investors' interest is even smaller compared to that of 2017.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: dark08 on December 13, 2019, 01:32:36 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
One reason why they are paying the bounty hunters their own native token instead of either Bitcoin or Ethereum is that, they don't want to invest more money to marketing. They don't want to invest their own money into a token which is not sure if it will become a successful project or not. That is the reason why they are not paying thru BTC or ETH.

With the fear of dumping, yes bounty hunters are one of the dumpers but it will be a few % of the whole token value compare to the investors whose percentage is far more than what is allocated to give rewards to the bounty hunters. If you will see the allocation between the bounty hunters and investors, it is always the investors who has a highest allocation and that is why they have more chances of dumping it so the fault goes to the investors themselves. Also the team too are the ones dumping their own token for the sake of profit.

That was right dude! most bounty now a day want to pay on their own altcoin maybe they have no huge budget to pay bitcoin or ethereum but this is normal on crypto world maybe you will avoid this kind of situation by joining on bitcoin or ethereum bounty payment.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: watergold on December 13, 2019, 01:38:08 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

A real project focuses on to achieve their roadmap. A dumping of 5% of their token won't make any difference. Exchange listing is one of the checkpoint in the roadmap.
The team really has no time watching at the coin price movement if they are really dedicated to deliver what they have stated they would.

Yeah, the situation happened in 2017, but not now. Of the many projects from last year, most of them have become shitcoin now, almost all of them. I have also seen some real projects in the past year, but even though the developers have worked hard according to what they stated before. All of that is still inferior to a dumping done by bounty hunters, in fact this is not the fault of the bounty hunters but the market has turned around, where investors' interest is even smaller compared to that of 2017.

Dumping is currently still not resolved when distribution is made to hunters, dumping will occur if the team has prepared a "buyback" of tokens again to return to normal prices on the market, and that too must have reserve funds or the results of ICO / IEO fundraising.
Don't rely on investors to buy because it's hard to trust anymore.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: oktana on December 13, 2019, 01:45:10 PM
but what's the point in coins if they are not listed on the exchange. Least of all the team thinks about the income of hunters, and first of all about their own profits and minimize losses. there are not so many bounty hunters that they greatly shaken the value of the coin. this fact is quite exaggerated among hunters
the total distribution obtained by the bounty participant will not be able to shake the price.

but is able to provide panic pills to investors and even allocations owned by developers if they sell in bulk within a few days. But whatever the problem, bounty participants cannot be used as the main reason.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Aying on December 13, 2019, 01:55:58 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Is not that easy for them to pay btc or in ethereum if their project run only if it have investors. a lot of projects now, dont have sufecient funds and they rely on a free listings and free advertisements of new sites. all good projects are not afraid or have fear of dumping, they have fear if they can't fool investors and they are already working hard for their fake project. 


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: monineklutak on December 13, 2019, 01:58:51 PM
but what's the point in coins if they are not listed on the exchange. Least of all the team thinks about the income of hunters, and first of all about their own profits and minimize losses. there are not so many bounty hunters that they greatly shaken the value of the coin. this fact is quite exaggerated among hunters
the total distribution obtained by the bounty participant will not be able to shake the price.

but is able to provide panic pills to investors and even allocations owned by developers if they sell in bulk within a few days. But whatever the problem, bounty participants cannot be used as the main reason.
if the bounty allocation is too large and the project is lonely interested, surely it is very influential, the average project with a large bounty allocation experiences a dump in the market, but will recover if the project can give traders and investors confidence


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: DainSLane on December 13, 2019, 02:35:52 PM
Yes we afraid of dumping, If the bounty rewards we receive from bounty altcoins are going dump. And most want to dump on it are those people have want to get profit from bounty but in the end are going to be a shitcoins. And they can pay BTC and ETH if the bounty campaign are for weekly payment just like in the services thread we can find some bounty on their that paying BTC.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Edraket31 on December 13, 2019, 02:46:03 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Is not that easy for them to pay btc or in ethereum if their project run only if it have investors. a lot of projects now, dont have sufecient funds and they rely on a free listings and free advertisements of new sites. all good projects are not afraid or have fear of dumping, they have fear if they can't fool investors and they are already working hard for their fake project. 

Let's always sympathize the situation, projects are finding fund for their investment to run and we are all aware of that  and they wanted their tokens to be utilize and for this to be known worldwide, so why they are going to pay for Btc, or any other stable coin/altcoins right, it doesn't make sense at all, what they need to do is to have the right strategy to minimize dumping.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: ChronoLite on December 13, 2019, 03:00:27 PM
That was right dude! most bounty now a day want to pay on their own altcoin maybe they have no huge budget to pay bitcoin or ethereum but this is normal on crypto world maybe you will avoid this kind of situation by joining on bitcoin or ethereum bounty payment.
They don't have to pay us with Bitcoin or Ethereum if they think they could make their project run successfully in the future, because I have seen we had that kind of project before that pays you with Bitcoin yet they still failed on market. TL:DR -> Just make the projects run success first, because so far none of them are actually good for now.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: cassavachips on December 13, 2019, 03:02:35 PM
I don't think the team of the new project is concerned with dumping the price of tokens because there really isn't a team that really cares about this. If the team really cares then they should be able to back up funds for sales from bounty hunters because the allocation they provide is not large


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: JC btc on December 13, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
I don't think the team of the new project is concerned with dumping the price of tokens because there really isn't a team that really cares about this. If the team really cares then they should be able to back up funds for sales from bounty hunters because the allocation they provide is not large

There's very few team who are after the price too as they wanted to compete in Bitcoin, but until now, no one even close to the price of Bitcoin, and yes most project core team
 are really not after the price, they don't care about it, they will just promise a thing when they are still finding investors, but after that, they will be silent and they will tell people that they are busy with the development.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: biddicoin on December 13, 2019, 03:57:01 PM
Many of you said that the bounty payment makes the huge dump. Is it even worth for new project to do bounties anymore?
Not at all, bounty only is a small part of the total supply so it can not effect too much to the market. To make a huge dump, we need a combination of fudders,whales and panic investors.
But the problem, there is no demand for that coins, so small part of total supply will affect more on price
In this case, most of coins dont have any demand at all. Those are pure shitcoin so making dump so hard

This will be different with the good coin with have good demand too, small part of total supply wont affect more in price.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: rafajunior99 on December 13, 2019, 04:22:06 PM
Most of the thinking of developers and project teams think like that, and delay payments or payments by installments little by little, so there are no dumper with their tokens, in my opinion if they are like that they will be abandoned by their loyal community who have helped promote their projects to be successful and develop well in the future. Not only that, I think if their tokens are very high quality and very good in exchange why should they be afraid of dumper.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: MWesterweele on December 13, 2019, 04:35:58 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
Many bounty hunters will dump their coin immediately when they heard that their coin is listed in an exchange, investors will wait until the dumpers are gone so that they will slowly make the price high so that they can sell it too because dumpers make it so low , or else they will use this opportunity to buy more coin. If company will pay in btc or eth it could be hard for them to pay , when they dont have enough fund, I mean they will fund their project first before anything else.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: pantek talacuik on December 13, 2019, 04:51:29 PM
I don't think the team of the new project is concerned with dumping the price of tokens because there really isn't a team that really cares about this. If the team really cares then they should be able to back up funds for sales from bounty hunters because the allocation they provide is not large

That's right, they should not rely on funds from investors to develop their projects. They must have a reserve of funds that will continue to develop the project they will run. I agree with your words.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: letyouearn on December 15, 2019, 12:18:36 AM
That's easy - payment made in ethereum or bitcoin is money payment. And payment in project's tokens is payment in nothing - you can always create as many coins as you need to.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: huu78 on December 15, 2019, 01:12:37 AM
I also have such thoughts, why not use the payment such as the coin that has been well known and stable like USDT? Obviously they do not want to because of their capital for the manufacture of projects and various listings in the market exchanges. Better they save than to pay the hunters would harm on the side of the project if they are very poor. If their developers are rich why not?


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: ChronoLite on December 15, 2019, 01:18:33 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing.
the team cannot avoid this, either the team delaying the payment or limiting the market none of them are actually working. It just delaying the dump but they cannot  avoid that. The dump will always haunt the new listed coins.

I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
they want that ethereum for their sake only, not for the community that's why they are afraid to pay us with ethereum or bitcoin.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: jazmuzika217 on December 15, 2019, 09:28:52 AM
Yes you are right. If they are really legit they will not be afraid to pay in bitcoin or in eth mode. They always used local coin which eventually became useless or no value. All we know  that it is hard to do work and do business here in crypto so it is right to receive the right amount of salary or we can say that we must need to have a real salary.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: itos84 on December 16, 2019, 01:34:19 AM
Maybe it can be solved with a stable coin. The problem with open markets is that there will always be whales that eat a huge chunk of tokens to manipulate the market. And greedy people that just want a quick buck. But if you really believe in a project and want to hold term then the fear of dumping disappears. Also, look for projects that have vesting for team members and investors.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: anjiitem on December 16, 2019, 11:14:03 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

A real project focuses on to achieve their roadmap. A dumping of 5% of their token won't make any difference. Exchange listing is one of the checkpoint in the roadmap.
The team really has no time watching at the coin price movement if they are really dedicated to deliver what they have stated they would.

Yeah, the situation happened in 2017, but not now. Of the many projects from last year, most of them have become shitcoin now, almost all of them. I have also seen some real projects in the past year, but even though the developers have worked hard according to what they stated before. All of that is still inferior to a dumping done by bounty hunters, in fact this is not the fault of the bounty hunters but the market has turned around, where investors' interest is even smaller compared to that of 2017.
Yes, you could say that now the interest of investors to invest has begun to diminish, perhaps because if we look at falling market conditions, investors are hesitant to invest and maybe because of the many scam projects that have made investors lose and ultimately investors prefer to wait the right time to start investing.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: setialovers on December 16, 2019, 11:47:14 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

If the developer team believes in the project and also the selection of good exchangers, I don't think the developer team should be afraid of dumping from hunters. I think hunters will continue to hold if the project is listed on a trusted exchanger and also has a good partnership with other companies.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Pamadar on December 16, 2019, 12:00:22 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

If the developer team believes in the project and also the selection of good exchangers, I don't think the developer team should be afraid of dumping from hunters. I think hunters will continue to hold if the project is listed on a trusted exchanger and also has a good partnership with other companies.
Maybe that's not the nature of this bounty hunting job, it will be quickly dumped when the coin got listed inside popular exchange. Hunters will see
that as a good opportunities and they will not hold that long. Each hunters who works to earned are focus if how quick they can convert their assets
there's no need to wait as they will use the money for investment or other things that can let them to benefits from this job.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: lobo13hf on December 16, 2019, 12:26:50 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

If the developer team believes in the project and also the selection of good exchangers, I don't think the developer team should be afraid of dumping from hunters. I think hunters will continue to hold if the project is listed on a trusted exchanger and also has a good partnership with other companies.
If the token doesn't have a lot of liquidity and the team must afraid with the dump that caused by the hunters. this is happening so many times with the crap coins. but when it comes to the good coin and you will be rarely found a case that related to the bounty participants. But that can bring the price of token to the bottom.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Mike Mayor on December 16, 2019, 07:57:45 PM
A good project should not worry about a dump. It is temporary and the project should still be around for years to come then it will recover quickly within a few months and the people who dumped bounty will have regret at their lost profits. It must be scary for a dev team but if they really believe and are serious with a never giving up attitude it won't be a problem. I do so few bounties these days because most devs are losers and just give up on their project and take the money with them.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: nikki4 on December 16, 2019, 08:53:14 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
This isn't about to fear to dump, actually this is for they can't dump. If bounty distribution is over before another part of token release, that's the problem. Even in cryptocurrency golden time only one coin did it, Ethereum payment for all hunters instead as promise token. "Crowdmachine" still have no good sign of bullrun but they had no bounty distribution.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: K4C on December 16, 2019, 08:56:18 PM
This is basically still the same thing, for example if a team wants to conduct a bounty with $50,000, they don't really need to do it with ETH or BTC payments, they could just pay in their own tokens and when it's time for payment, if they are scared of the tokens dumping their price, they could simply just buy back the tokens from hunters by placing buy orders that are equal to the amount of tokens distributed, the fact is that most teams do not really want to spend anything to advertise their project and when they distribute, they don't really care about price, they just pretend to.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: babicena14 on December 16, 2019, 10:17:34 PM
Because it requires extra spending. And it's not always profitable for the team. Therefore, only a small part of the projects pay bounty hunters in bitcoin or ether.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: HabiebRiziq on December 17, 2019, 06:07:38 AM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.
it's natural because the Bounty Hunter doesn't want to think long, after what he got he would want to immediately sell it, because what I know is that the bounty hunter wants to get immediate results from his work that sometimes months that month.  different from the investors of the project who want to benefit from price increases.
Bounty hunter not lose anything. Maybe because of that, they will sell when they it is a good price. But i think some of them, or maybe a lot of them usually wait for the ICO price and maybe they can hold longer, because of reason that i mention before, they not lose anything if they hold. For me personally maybe as long some project pay bounty hunter according date that they are said, no problem for me.
Many bounty hunters don't think too much about how much or the results they get from promoting the project, so I think more bounty hunters who prefer to sell tokens that they get, indeed they don't lose anything, but if the price is very low or the tokens they have are worthless, I think they will think that what they do for weeks is a waste.


Title: Re: FEAR OF DUMPING
Post by: Kersh768 on December 23, 2019, 09:40:16 PM
The fear of dumping often makes the project team fear or avoid the payment of hunters until sometimes after the exchange listing. I wonder why the team make themselves restless on an easy thing like that when they can easily conduct their bounty with bitcoin or ethereum for payment. That will safe them of the fear that the bounty hunter will dump after the exchange listing.

Why would they fear the presence of dumping if at the first phase of the project, the plan has been executed according to what must be done? It is just normal for the price of the token to experience dump right after the listing on an exchange but that was just or will be a temporary scenario for price will recover after that. Great solution based on what you have stated can be in choice between paying through Bitcoin or Ethereum for the work of bounty hunters after executing promotion in the forum. They deserve to be paid accordingly by the work they have done for the project without holding back. Also, it depends on the bounty hunters themselves on what they would do on their bounty rewards for they deserve to gain the fruit of their labor as soon as the project was ended and the rewards was already distributed.