Bitcoin Forum

So bull run supposto be on but its not!
If december the bull run Will not start then january just Before taxes its hard to belive that bull run Will start.... Usually january is very bearish.

And halving not helping either.

The crypto bull run is delayed anyone knows when the bull run Will start the fed printed More money what More we need? 
This new money should be invested all ready to make crypto market go up!

WHO brought the bears??  We need bulls asap

What do you mean by delayed? Bull are always in the background, just waiting for the right time to make a run. Let the bear enjoy their time in the sun, I'm sure that when the bulls arrived, then can't do anything. Halving is still months from now, so we can't really see the effect, actually even after the halving, we might not see the price spiking up, overnight, it might takes weeks, months or even a year to see the positive effect of that event, so just be patience, when the right time arrives, I'm sure you will be happy with the results as we might hit another all time high in the next coming years.

I don't think that the bull is coming now during this December. I'm not in expectation for it because there is no propeller to drive out the bear. So it might continue till next year around the halving.

Nothing was supposed to happen. The market is still shaking out speculators from the rally earlier this year. It's waiting for bulls like you to give in and sell. :P


When everyone stops expecting a bull market, that's when it'll finally come. Have some patience and forget about the charts for a while.

momentum is still accumulative and does not constitute a significant upward movement, bulls will come but they also realize the market has not yet found a supportive pattern, there are 3 scenarios for each year: December-January-April. At least your speculation should not be emphasized in December alone. delays are also part of the pattern of driving prices to remain consolidated.

Who says it has to be on?

I'm not expecting anything significant until 2021. If there aren't any signs of one around then then I'll start to get a little sweaty. I'm expecting 2020 to be fairly unremarkable myself.

the bull run won't happen in 2020, at least returning to the price of 10,000 to 13,000 is good enough for bitcoin,
That's why even though this December, or January, has no effect on market movements, because many investors know, bulls won't happen so fast in 2020.

Depend my analyze bulls will happen middle 2020 ( use MACD ), far away from now. If your money already in market I suggest you to cut loss this step is to avoid deeper dump market. Every strategy will fail in this situation but some day trader still do their activity in very small range. I hope you can think wisely, no one will stop your activity but please think again.

Are you trying to say that it should be now a bull run because the month now is December? It is not like that, we have different trends in the market and it is the uptrend or the bullish, the downtrend or the bearish and the sideways. It is not matter what months of the year, the matter is the cycle of the cryptocurrency market. You can identify a trend using indicators and tools such as moving averages and a trend line.

And who says the bull run is supposed to be on now? The bull run will come at its own time, a time that is not expected by everyone. The bull run does not occur according to a schedule. Who says there is a certain schedule in the crypto world? The crypto world is still the wild wild west until now. There is a bear even if it is already time for them to hibernate and there are bulls when everyone thinks the bulls are nowhere to be found. There is no who in here. There are so many factors that somehow caused the demand lesser.

Who says that we bull run will supposed to be happen this December? Care to share you source? Or it is just another speculation of yours?

Halving? it's going to happen in 2020 so we shouldn't expect its net positive effect in 2019.

Bears have been in this crypto, I mean every market around has bears so no one bring them here, they are always present same as bulls.

maybe now at the end of 2019 the bull run will not come easily, but we must try to look at the beginning of 2020. I think in 2020 the bull run can side with us. so the best step is to prepare the money to be in investment when the bull run signs will experience a significant increase.

Honestly all of us are hoping and waiting dor a bullrun but no one knows when it happened. I think you don't need lose your hope because bullrun are not coming or delayed on this month. Believe me,even if january is impossible month for bullrun,it will be possible if the bullrun will really happened. I think if bullrun will not came on the first quarter of the year 2020, many investors will accept their loss.

Its funny but I guess it was just a wishful thinking that bullrun come easily. The market needs significant reason why it should shoot up, however as of the moment there’s no enough positive sentiment that might trigger tons of buy.

You are too in a hurry to think and you are not seeing the long-term future. No one would be foolish to buy Bitcoin at a high price from now on while the halving event is more than 6 months away. it all takes time and we should follow the flow of the crowd, never try to fight it. If bitcoin's price is not flying now, meaning that people still want to buy it as cheaply as possible, they don't believe that bitcoin can increase sharply now. so we don't need to be in a hurry. Patience will make us rich.

I am very much confused by some parts of what you just have said so let me address what I actually understand.
"Bullrun supposed to be on"
Who are you to state as such? Do you even have any proof that Bullrun is supposed to happen right now? Do you own the market? Do you have even a minimal amount of control over it? No. So yep, stop saying as such.
"halving not helping either"
It's in May. Not this month, nor the previous, nor the next. It's in May 2020. I have no idea why you correlated that, and you don't even have any reasonings for it.
"Fed printed more money"
Sauce, please. And even if they did, it doesn't necessarily mean that it should be invested in BTC, or at least, those people who own it anyway.
Lastly, if there are no bears, there are no bulls and vice versa.

I'm kinda confused with OP's words, so you're saying that bull run is delayed?
How come you know that bull run is coming? Does than mean you know when exactly it will happen and then it gets delayed? And halving isn't here yet, you don't know for sure if halving will help the price of bitcoin or not. But don't expect too much to see another great impact in 2020, it might needs more time, just like how the last halving did. But just like everyone else, we're hoping that next year will be a great year for cryptocurrency in general.

No one knows when's the next bull run or something . So you have to just chill out, drink a cup of tea, and wait patiently for it to happen.

there is no "suppose to" in any market! there is only market makers and the movements that happen based on a million and one different reasons. no rule says there should be a bull run now, nor any saying there should be a bear market in January.

you say "halving" which should be bitcoin related but then you say "crypto bull run" which has nothing to do with bitcoin. what you refer to as "crypto bull run" is merely the altcoin pump season which can not happen and is not happening only because most of the altcoins, specially the big ones, are still in big bubbles. so they need to be dumped a lot more than this before they can start pumping again.

this time I was really confused with OP. You want to say the bull run is delayed?
in my opinion, the bullish situation nobody knows, don't think that December will always be a bull run, and yes halving really doesn't help change the situation if the market's interest isn't strong enough to make massive buying. I think this has an influence on global economic conditions, so the demand for buying is also a bit sluggish in various types of sectors, one of which is in crytocurrency. then the bearish condition will continue to occur, don't know how long it will stop.

No one will obey your orders and wishes. It all takes time, you can see the price of Bitcoin has been sideway a lot from $ 6k5 - $ 3k3 for a long time. but eventually its price increased and then new cows arrived. so we need more patience than screaming and giving up. The market has always had extraordinary growth, our task is to find a good entry point and wait until we sell Bitcoin at a high price. That's a real speculator.

Good thing about the fall that happens is that people get another chance to start investing or buy more coins as it is now available at cheaper rate. Also rise will happen if not today then tomorrow . It has a time where it can start rising and once it happens it will recover at a quicker pace then even our expectation.

What was your basis when you say its "delayed"? If any live person knows when bull run will happen, there will be a lot of millionaires by now since they can predict when bull run will happen. If your basis is "your" technical analysis, then its not delayed, it simply means your analysis is wrong. In my case I am not waiting for any bull run to happen, I will just take advantage of the small surge and drop of price of Bitcoin. 1.5% per day is better than nothing.

Usually december is bull run month.
So its delayed!
Halving not helping either If this will go on then btc Will go to the Zero! 
That's not Good Can anyone who Got power Can do it something?
We need bull run Badly!! 
Real bull run is when at least 10 coins Will go everyday! 

That's what I mean is real bull run!! 
Im not talking about bull traps but the real bull run!!

You say delayed on what grounds? is it based on bull run at the end of 2017? I think the crypto movement is not always static which will rise in certain months, crypto is very volatile and dynamic so no one knows when the bull run will occur.

Just like a few months ago where bitcoin rose to $12k and that didn't happen in December, well all crypto conditions depend on current market conditions and unpredictable markets.

Lol. Obviously you don't know what you're talking about dude. Where have you been last year? That pattern doesn't work. December last year was when the market crashed drastically just when everyone was expecting a bull run, just like you. A lot of us have already learned that it doesn't work that way. Dyor.

All these guys are just so impatient. You know when the bull came this year it came too soon and no one complained, can you believe most people thought the bull had finally arrived? I mean, yeah, it's nice to see a rally but just because the bull comes in 2 or 3 years doesn't mean it's delayed. If anything, the rally this year will delay the real fullblown bull run to 2021 or later.

Take a look at the price of Bitcoin for the last 5 years on the last quarter of each year

October 3, 2018 $6,493 December 25, 2018 $3,837 down by -41%
October 3, 2017 $4,312 December 25, 2017 $13,843 up by 221%
October 3, 2016 $613 December 25, 2016 $875 up by 42%
October 3, 2015 $238 December 25, 2015 $454 up by 90%
October 3, 2014 $373 December 25, 2014 $330 down by -12%

I can see bull run only on 2017, but on 2016 and 2015 the changes are just normal. If you look at the price of Bitcoin February 11, 2019 $3,617 and April 11, 2019 $5,124, that's up by 42%. Then by June 28, 2019 $11,668 that's up by 222%. What I'm trying to say is no need to wait for December. Bull run may happen any time. Bull run does not pick a month where it will start.

Bull run doesn't need a month that it will only happen in December or when feds print more money, as usually in those cases the price tend to correct itself as these are news driven events and aren't a good indicator of market support and if a rally starts from these events it usually bursts and then the market bleeds and people loose a lot of money.

A healthy price increase is what bitcoin needs and that too I don't think will happen before the block reward halving as all the speculators are holding their coins for future to see the price of bitcoin after halving.

Patience is what is required here otherwise you get frustrated . Bull run will happen  in 2021 i guess. As Crypto market is volatile you should  wait  for  the   right time. Those who are buying for them its a   good time to buy bitcoin as it is cheaper and hold as  it is a bearish.

You are expecting way too much with your speculations only.
There might not be a bull run that will happen. Nobody really knows that.
Halving doesn't mean always as profit. This could be the time where there will be nothing. I don't know. Who does?

Still early to tell what could happen and this is not December 2017 anymore.

We've had a premature buy out when the BTC price returned at the 10k level i guess some of us got pretty excited into accumulating when we've learned halving is about to come that's why this year's halving is different. As long as there are moon boys and optimistic investors in the market the price will not move or will continue to drop, we need to see pessimism to truly see if btc had bottomed in order to start a bullrun.

And it's still unclear why do you think that bull run is delayed, halving hasn't happened yet, it will happen in 14 May so there is 5 months left. I wouldn't state any conclusion right now regarding to upcoming halving and price rice bad correlation because if we remember the last halving, price didn't rise up quickly, it happened slowly, at first price was stable 600$, then begun slow and slow rise, we surpassed 1000$ which was still hard to imagine for a lot of people but this wasn't the path where we stopped, we went even further and reached 2000$, then had some fall and rises but finally got huge boost and boost and again slowly in overall but sometimes with fast pushes, we reached 20K usd.
Why not to have hopes on current halving? I think we have to keep more positive feelings than negative, all of us in order to achieve our goal regarding to bitcoin price. Plus I want to add that 64% of stored bitcoins haven't moved since 2018 which means a lot of people still hold and number of them are huge and they don't hold for no reason.

People here don't have patience.

It's quite funny actually, because I have seen some people on social media say that if the price doesn't go up, they will sell and buy stocks for example. The mad gains they hope to get from Bitcoin, can't ever be realized by buying stocks. You are better off holding Bitcoin for 2-4 years and potentially make 1000% than to hold stocks and make 50-100%.

Most of the people have the year 2017 function as benchmark for how a bull run should be playing out, while they completely disregard how much larger the market has grown. The market currently has more economical mass, more liquidity to chew through (though it's still peanuts in the grand sheme of things), and that means that cycles will take longer to play out. Basic market economics.

Actually i am not really understand when bullrun come, maybe if OP know exactly if bullrun come in december where he got the info. I mean, maybe in this forum a lot of people free to speculate, but to believe it directly i don't think we should do that. Speculations in here can help us to make deep analyze about the price. It will really helpful than believe it to happen and then mad because it is out of our expectation.

Its too early man just remember how fast and easy for the bulls to pump bitcoins price as much as they want in just a small period of time. Its easy if they want what the hard way is to dump or bring down the market. We can't also say that the bull run is delayed January is not always bearish and on before or after halving bitcoin usually pumps.

Come on Bull, Bull Run...We need a bullish season...and you think by being so desperate the bull season will come ? No, it will not. The mini bull run may come within 2 -3  months because of halving coming close but the real bull run will only come in 2021. Remember its a four year cycle. Last bull run were in 2013, 2017 and the next will be in 2021.

Yeah, the same thing happened this year on bitcoin and I think that dude was just trying to be positive even though the reality doesn't coinside. Crashes occured earlier this month after it fell down last week of November. I am hoping there's few percentage rise in the next coming months and for year 2020 it can be somehow surprising.

Halving is 5 months more.
Maybe you are just being getting too excited of what might happen.
It might not even days before the halving or even a month after it.

I once read it here once speculation and also with analysis that tells the pumpt could happen maybe 3 to 4 months after the halving.
Just get more bitcoin for now. Maybe that could also start the increase in price.

Of course, different situations on the cryptocurrency market can be compared with what is happening in the past, but this is only by comparison of indicators and recently such indicators cannot be in statistics.  In other words, I can not compare every year and draw an analogy, because every year the cryptocurrency market operates in different ways.  One way or another, I have never seen enough accurate forecasts that were comparable to reality.

I too think this might take a little longer than most people expect :) After every ATH it's gonna take longer to reach another tops simply because market gets bigger and volatility gets lower. You will need longer periods of accumulation and everything else gets stretched out in the time frame.

There is nothing sure shot in a market and who gave you the guarantee that you will see a rally.

During vacation you will not usually see the market rallying and by January you might even see a correction and i will not be that surprised if the market does not move upwards till the halving and even then we will see the market recovering after a few months until we can expect some kind of a push in the market.

Why entrust everything to the halving?
It is just an event where the block rewards are being halved. It doesn't mean the price will skyrocket every time that event will happen.

If I were you I would do my own homework on how to increase the demands of bitcoin.
Simply introduce it to other people.
There will be no payment for that, but there might be a large chance that demands will be pumped. You know what is next.

Block halving not yet come and we dont know what will be happened on bitcoin price at that time either it will go down or will go upward. How did you know bitcoin halving not helping it doesn't happen yet. No one will give you an accurate answer when the bitcoin price becomes bullish if I were you, just patiently wait when the bitcoin price goes up because that is possible happen anytime at this moment, maybe not today but who knows tomorrow or next month our expectation will be there.

Many of us had been expecting bulls are going to come since halving is coming in months. Price is climbing though. If the price suddenly goes up in a week or month, it may not be a good thing for its going to be a trap.

No bulls will try to keep up when his money will just be drained, the market isn't even stable yet. But its sure that big investors had already bought a lot of BTC when the price was below $4k and to them bullrun has started already.

We still don't know yet if the bull run signal willbr by next year and were just hoping it could happen, expecting some good news that will happen and a lot of traders are surely buy a bitcoin since they taught after the day of halving is completed the price could jump to more than its ATH last year of 2017.

And we just need to accumulate if anything happens in market just in case a pump suddenly began.

I think "Halving" is still going to make an impact on the market but may be later in the year. Right now its delayed because of the manipulation by whales and once they start the rolling we will see some good results on the bull run.

The price is still being bullish but if we are talking about the new all time high then we can't really tell when would that happen, some may say it will happen this month but some also say that it might be next year, no one really can say for sure when so just wait a little longer because it will really happen soon.

There's certain impact after the event as many spectators will go back to the market and play with the trend. It's a matter of time to whatever directions this industry will proceed after that particular halving event. To anyone who have a good view buying now while those cheap coins still on sale will bring them a good profits when the effects of halving start being feel, profits will be high just like what happened last 2017.

I'm not sure where you see the bullish market. In my opinion, we have nervous stabilization, which can turn into further drops at any moment.
We would all be happy if there were signs of growth, but unfortunately it's the end of the year and everyone is thinking about Christmas. I think the next months will be very unpleasant for cryptocurrency market.

halving will help prices bitcoin a lot because the decrease of supply bitcoin in the market ; i think current prices very cheap because the real price should be over 10000 usd for each btc ; if prices rise above level 10k this can be another huge support for prices before halving always
bear market or panic sell will end soon then prices to stable

Chart says that halving affects the price of bitcoin greatly, altcoins prices is very dependent to the bitcoin and so this will also be affected. After the halving in previous years, we can clearly see on how it changes the market right away so it is expected to happen again since there are more people now engaging in cryptocurrencies. Bull run is delay, but what has caused it? I think the bull run is delay or worst it won't happen cause all of us is just waiting, waiting for the prices to move up that's why whales are being manipulative these past few months. Hence, buying now is a good choice.

The bull run is unpredictable and it's not even scheduled or planned to happen this month. As for me, Bitcoin is still in a good situation. Sometimes, we are just expecting too much which only makes us feel disappointed. If you'll only base things on its history, there's no guarantee that Bitcoin will follow the same trend. No one really knows when the bull run is.

I don't understand why people become so impatient when it comes to Cryptocurrencies. These people are happy getting 15% annualized returns on their stocks but when it comes to Cryptocurrencies they are like why is it not increasing by 200% just in a day. It's pretty much like an ordinary asset. Halving hasn't even happened and you are saying halving not helping? Forget what you invested and come back after 5 years. This is when you will see results on your money. It's not a get rich quick scheme.

You mean the whales are not becoming bulls yet? I think the price is dictated by the sellers and majority aren't selling it higher. It will probably happen when halving started.

Nothings left to do but wait. While you are not trading with this market condition, just try buying and earning some BTC. Its never a waste of time to earn just about $25 worth of btc a week for it could be worth more than $100 when the bullrun come.

And why did you even think that December is a date for the bullish market? Also why do you think that January is the month for the bears? This is a perfect example why a month, season, date isn't completely tied up to the same price movement on what they have done before. Historical price movements aren't a good basis for your trades as you aren't really analyzing the current market trends but the past one which is completely irrelevant.


Bitcoin won't be halving their rewards not until May of next year so I'm wondering why you are connecting the halving in 2020 in the current price movement? Are you just reading what other members are saying and basing your decisions because of it? That's completely a careless move on your part believing them without doing any counter checks for yourself.

It is still not certain whether the bull run will happen as predicted after halving or maybe it will not happen at all, this market is very unpredictable and anything can happen in this market such as a rapid increase and even a very unexpected decline . So I just need to be patient for the event because when we continue to worry about the conditions that occur then it will only make us more stressed.

Usually December is bullish but it's not so we already know that usually means nothing for Bitcoin. We did not get the usual December so maybe we will not get the usual January.


Maybe halving pump was what we saw in June? ;)

If you like the usual numbers you should know that halving bull runs usually happen after the event not before.

Yes. All we need today is a long stretch of patience because everyone here cannot predict what will the market become in the next days. But i really believe that bull run will happen when we least expect it and when everyone is turning down bitcoin.

Why ASAP what's your reason why would bullrun comes ASAP, it's gradual shifting it's not goign to happen overnight, it's not something that will double overnight, we'll never noticed that happened, just keep believing id we finish at $8000 k then we are good to go on a next phase, it will eventually come but another all time high will come after the halving

As we always and still expect the last price and trend of bitcoin it is impossible for us to leave our minds in a hurry and earn profit immediately. we should higher our vission and not always negative because bitcoin price is in good rate and it is good to accumulate now at this current situation. learn to accept things and see the bright future of btc price. let's see the possible price in 2020 and hoping to raise.

With market conditions like this it is indeed impossible that a bull run will occur this December. According to my analysis
it might be on mid-2020 bull run will begin, so there is a possibility before halving or after halving. No one can knowing
the exact bull run occurred, we can only guess. The problem is as we know the price movement of crypto does not
predictable. Now all we have to do is prepare ourselves, by starting to buy potential coins.And hold until the bull run occurs.

Tried to look this one https://bitcoinblockhalf.com/ it could be at May 2020. Hope there is no change of date.

Halving can't just be always at positive result but MOST of it (as seen previously), we can see its effect almost a year after halving, and the good thing is that the price moves high...it meant to be at bullish market. If we don't have patience inside, it never make you happy but instead it loosen up your confidence.

Halving will help eventually, there is still about 5-6 months left until the halving and usually the halving causes the prices to go up later on, not right away because you can handle it while it is still not halved and you can have patience and keep the pressure away but after the halving eventually it will start to crack and that is not something you could potentially handle for too long.

People are optimistic about 2020 but I feel like the real big hype and bull run will be in 2021, may is just middle of the road for 2020, it could handle all of 2020 and keep the pressure off, however by the time of 2021 there will be big changes in how fast, slow, big, small the transactions becomes and everything will settle down, that is when the price will show its true force.

Patience is the name of the game. You should not depend on the events that are coming for bitcoin and do not base your hope in halving. Halving is a normal phenomenon in bitcoin and to some altcoin but it doesn't that the price will go up high because like what happened in litecoin, it is now deep down. Base your hope and expectation on technical data.

The situation isn't going to be helpful for someone who only depend on the rise of BTC. If they have to spend BTC to survive everyday, they will lose what they are holding while the price isn't yet going up and before the bullrun they will nothing anymore. This is why they need to hurry the bullrun. Its a toxic world already when the bounty hunters don't get what they expect and they lose more when they happen to promote a scam project.

https://masterthecrypto.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/bitcoin-halving-price-usd-exchange-rate-values.jpg

Take a look at the picture. Bitcoin likes to approach the halving slowly with only a very small rally. I'm pretty sure the small rally was already there similar to 2012 and 2016 that had 2 small rallies before the halving. If we were to repeat this we would still get one more, maybe in March of 2020, but it doesn't have to be like that. We can stay in consolidation pattern until the halving and then go up. We will surely go up a bit but it doesn't have to be big like it used to.

Delayed? What is this means?
Well most of us expecting a bullrun since bitcoin will performe a 2020 halving but suddenly the market turning to falling down which os a good opportunity to buy more bitcoin, because no one will know what will happen to bitcoin itcan be back to $5000 or pump and touch the $10k again.

Speaking from my personal experience the halving is indeed doesn't give a significance price boost or even turn the market into bullish. Halving is already planned from the first time bitcoin was released and most of people already know it that's why most of people didnt really get excited when halving is happening except for wishing that the price will increase and december is usually a bearish market for bitcoin for this past year because people are cashing out their money for tax report.

Try to be patient mate. Halving isn't done yet, we are just looking it in advance and I don't think that it will make help. If you could read the post above, there you can see and understand that halving will only have it impact for almost a year after which it means that we could probably experience bullish(if ever there is) late next year and we are hoping for that.

Everything is still so unpredictable. Anything could happen and we all hope for the best to come of not this year hopefully early next year. Its really exciting and its just so thrilling to see how it goes up and down and quite steady. Well, just hope for best price ever!

Halving is not even started and we might see a crisis before or after the halving so we just need to be prepare. That's why we van just accumukate and buy more while it is cheap.

And even were still in bearish we can still make it up and gain profit by waiting for the right time until a signal for a bullrun.

Even if the halving event is performed, it does not guarantee that the value will increase, the bull run will run during that time, so the complaint is useless, perhaps we have misunderstood the meaning of the event, a lot of people fall into this situation and claim that halving doesn't have any help at all. While this is an opportunity market, all information is given to boost demand and help people recognize opportunities to make money, we don't need the event, we don't need the bull run, what we need is to look at opportunities and get involved right away

It seems you based your analysis on the fact of the bullish run that happened in December 2017 of which you moust agree with me that it not happened in the last year December. So, if you are trying to depend of the saying that history do repeat itself is it just on one year? Event that happened in December 2017 is not the same with that of this year 2019 buddy.

Very confusing with the situation of traders today, when the market is in pretty bad condition, they always complain and expect prices to soar up, but when prices suddenly rise dramatically, they expect the market to fall to get low prices.
Me ? i even now didn't expect that bullish or bearish will give a long effect for the market. This time is not 1-2 years ago when we can get a good time on it.

That's life, when you have everything you are still not happy and contented that you are thinking it's not yet fulfilling your needs, anyway, first learning to be contented and learning to appreciate what we do have, of course we must keep working for us to be able to fulfill our needs especially now that our expectation did not met the price, so we must find other ways not to complain each day.

maybe this can help you to see how the direction of bitcoin prices moves. and determine when bullish and bearish will run.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/sorry-but-bitcoin-can-still-drop-to-27k-while-everyones-bullish
here is written Bearish scenario statement

I don't think I need to repeat the bearish scenario. The $ 6,900 level must be defended. Should this price breakdown, I expect an aggressive sell-off to lows around the $ 2,700 region over the next 5-6 months

Bull rally will probably happen AFTER the halving, people keep forgetting that, everyone is expecting a big rally before the halving because halving will create some sort of lack of resources and that will reflect on the price before the halving but the reality is that it won't create that scarcity until the halving so there is no reason why it should happen beforehand.

I understand that people may buy beforehand to increase the price to those levels to be prepared but that doesn't "have to" happen, it is a good to have but not a must so I think the best case possibility here is the halving causing the increase afterwards not beforehand. I am not an expert so I can be wrong but I would wait until end of summer for an increase which requires a bit of patience for everyone involved.

Indeed, it is too early to conclude everything , we need to wait until it happens, as far as I know, when halving bitcoin increases it price more than the current price, we need to consider all the scenarios , but for my experience the prices increases so fast ,many whales are hoarding coins , but bull run doesnt stay too long. So we need to appreciate the opportunity when the the price gets high you need to sell your coins immediately.

We need to remind ourselves that not every year there is bull run, so we should be ready all the time, we should not waste our time thinking too much how much would be the price of Bitcoin this year, or next year, of course, we may always aim for it and hoping for the best always, but we should also be ready when our expectation did not happen.

Trivia: Bull run doesn't always happen before the year ends, it could happen anytime (soon)


We don't know about that yet, since halving will happen next year, on May 2020, correct me if I'm wrong, but usually, after halving, this is where the bull shows itself.

It's absolutely not necessary that the bull run should start in December or January will only go bearish. Why do you think there is a fixed time for a bullish or bearish trend. If it were so then the market would be very predictable and everybody would try to buy before the bullish trend starts and then sell before the bearish. This is certainly not possible which is why the crypto market is so unpredictable. The market might go bullish or bearish whenever it wants. We can just wait and watch as it happens.

No matter how hard you do ask for bulls, it wont happen or no one would able to know on when it will arrive.
Things wont happen the same wayback before.If last month of the year where theres a movement of rising but now
we are seeing the opposite one but well we do still have few days left but im not already expecting much for that to happen.
Just deal with it.

Unfortunately, despite a very long period, the bear period has not ended and it seems that it will not end for a while. With the approach of the new year, the natural decline in prices also delayed the arrival of the bullish period. Although many innovations are expected in the new year, I still think that prices will not rise too quickly. The fact that there is no reaction in terms of price despite the approach of the half-life has caused us to despair and keep our expectations lower. Unfortunately for 2019, crypto coins were sluggish and bad, hopefully this bad trend will not continue in 2020 and 2020 will be an important year for crypto coins.

and how do you know that the bull run will start ? we are already on december and there are no bull runs but who knows ?  what if the designated time for the bull run are now adjusted  ? any month can be a potential start date for a bull run  and how can you say that halving didnt help when the halving dont occur yet  . who brought the bears ? well people that like to invest and trade , they are the ones that buy on bears but they are also the ones that make bull run happen 

To be honest I didn't expect any bull run any time soon. Besides something like that is very hard to predict and you can't tell month or date when it's going to happen.
Also, I don't have any expectations of halving regarding price, it will not bring big price pump. If some effect will appear it will be probably only small and on the short term.

No need to rush for a bull run because it will definitely happen, the increase will also be slow after halving and at least going through a gradual process. So we do not need to worry and are afraid that the bullish trend will not occur because the current market situation continues to deteriorate, however when the time comes then it will also happen so be patient for it and we do not need to panic because prices continue to decline because it is a normal event occur.

I am expecting the opposite but I like you mentality at least you are always ready to accept even if there is no changes in the market.

Not saying that I am not ready, I just want to stay optimistic that the market will eventually change and that is because of the bull run.
Some are hyping the halving some loss their belief on the hype, both understandable but I am with the changes that will occur anytime soon, besides, the market is hard to predict so I would always remain bullish.

You can see the bitcoin halving countdown for 2020 here : https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com

https://i.imgur.com/vaaawGX.png

Means we still have 150+ days for that to happen,they why you are telling that bull run is delayed even if we have halving.

You need to know there will be no immediate bull run even if we have block rewards halving it may take 6 months or later to have affect on prices so real bull run expected to being December 2020 or later.Keep HODLing.

Indeed, all we can do is wait for it, let see what will happen. Previous years shows that the effect of halving is good, it makes bitcoin prices pump, it makes other altcoins pump also, it really depends, but we all hope that bull run will happen next year, so buy as much coin you can buy! And hold it as long as you want and dont be afraid to take a risk.