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Title: 3klost Post by: Herbert_kopf on December 15, 2019, 02:31:09 PM Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online
He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not? Thank you Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: OmegaStarScream on December 15, 2019, 02:41:10 PM The transaction happened on an online (centralized) platform? If that's the case, you could start there by asking the platform to provide the necessary details (IP address, ID, etc.) about the seller (but even then, I doubt much can be done because of the distance).
Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: rosezionjohn on December 15, 2019, 02:44:24 PM What are legal actions he can make It's better to just ask a real lawyer. You and your friend must have at least one relative or a friend.Gather all the evidence that the lawyer may need like which platform. Quote and are they in real situation helpful or not? I'm not following you here. Are you asking if the contract to sell is legally binding even if it was done online?Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Herbert_kopf on December 15, 2019, 02:57:52 PM The transaction happened on an online (centralized) platform? If that's the case, you could start there by asking the platform to provide the necessary details (IP address, ID, etc.) about the seller (but even then, I doubt much can be done because of the distance). I think it happened through communication like Skype or soThank you for replys Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: nakamura12 on December 15, 2019, 03:37:16 PM I think it happened through communication like Skype or so
Thank you for replys [/quote]The only thing you can do is what OmegaStarScream just suggested and you should report it to the platform that your friend and the seller use to have transaction. In that way, many people would know that this seller is to be avoided at all cost. Maybe the platform will restrict the seller's account (I hope so). Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: mk4 on December 15, 2019, 04:01:51 PM I think it happened through communication like Skype or so Thank you for replys I really doubt you're going to get anywhere as the scammer most likely just used some sort of online gamer nickname, or at least a fake name, rather than the scammer's real name. But yea, you can try contacting Skype about this because at this point, you have nothing else more to lose, and it's definitely at least worth trying. EDIT: And probably try contacting Tether[1] itself. Remember, they have the power to freeze USDTs(a thread about this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204055)). Not sure how the process will go though, assuming they respond. [1] https://tether.to/ Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: pakhitheboss on December 15, 2019, 04:02:05 PM Since you told me that the transaction was done through online platform. If you have done it using Paypal then you can easily claim the money back. I think you have to claim it within one-month time frame.
If it was done using an eCommerce website then you can ask the website to investigate, as you did not receive the product. Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: noormcs5 on December 15, 2019, 04:23:56 PM Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not? Thank you As per your words it look like the transaction was done in usd and not in crypto currency. So you can ask help from the centralized platform on how to deal with such situations. Although i am surprised that you used an online platform and yet there is no escrow implemented to protect the both buyer and the seller. If you don't mind can you share the site which your friend used ? Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Herbert_kopf on December 15, 2019, 04:27:18 PM Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not? Thank you As per your words it look like the transaction was done in usd and not in crypto currency. So you can ask help from the centralized platform on how to deal with such situations. Although i am surprised that you used an online platform and yet there is no escrow implemented to protect the both buyer and the seller. If you don't mind can you share the site which your friend used ? Not just USD, I meant USDT coin Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: BitcoinsGreat on December 15, 2019, 04:28:29 PM Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not? Thank you I am always be careful while i deal with the global marketplace and especially dealing with the Asians. People from the third world country normally do such scams and i usually avoid dealing with them. Even if you have to deal with them, never go first in the trade or better use a third trusted party. Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: noormcs5 on December 15, 2019, 04:49:10 PM Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not? Thank you As per your words it look like the transaction was done in usd and not in crypto currency. So you can ask help from the centralized platform on how to deal with such situations. Although i am surprised that you used an online platform and yet there is no escrow implemented to protect the both buyer and the seller. If you don't mind can you share the site which your friend used ? Not just USD, I meant USDT coin And the name of the site where this fraud happened ? Since the transaction happened in USDT, seller will now be more difficult to trace. Maybe he has given his real information , address etc while registering on the site ? Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Mahanton on December 15, 2019, 04:52:04 PM Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online Better move on yet expenses on having those legal action steps wont really be that cheap for sure.Instead, take this a lesson learn that never easily trust up sellers online if they havent He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not? Thank you enough credibility/trust/reputation. Always stick on reputable marketplaces and also always demand for an escrow. Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Velkro on December 15, 2019, 05:47:37 PM What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not? Not much he can do. Costs of legal actions are huge compared to $3000. Thank you Of course he can fight for justice but it will be expensive. I hope he will learn from that and not make same mistake twice. Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: UmerIdrees on December 15, 2019, 05:57:05 PM What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not? Not much he can do. Costs of legal actions are huge compared to $3000. Thank you Of course he can fight for justice but it will be expensive. I hope he will learn from that and not make same mistake twice. Learning from experience is the most difficult learning because you face a loss and then learn. It is has advised many times not to trade without an escrow bit no one learn from advises. ??? Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: panganib999 on December 15, 2019, 06:17:22 PM transaction was made through tether coin Not just USD, I meant USDT coin So it seems that an exchange was used to transfer USDT, and the sender would then send the items? Is that how the transaction worked ( or was supposed to) ? Cause if so, then give up. The transaction happened online, and your friend was the one whom transferred it willingly. EVEN if you brought this up to the law, there aren't enough information to go around that could help your friend. It's like how you buy in-game items on marketplaces through fiat/virtual currency. If there isn't a good middleman (either application/system or a person) to pass through, the person to be scammed can only blame themselves for not setting any thing to protect their assets. Also note the term used "tricked" meaning, fully the clients fault, if I do say so myself. I'm pretty sure legal action is done when stealing is involved, but since your friend just got tricked into sending it, I doubt movement would happen to it. Only thing you can do now is to spread the scammers name and warn others. Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: desticy on December 15, 2019, 06:51:05 PM It's amazing that people still fall for such tricks. First of all, I advise you to contact the police, let them do this.
If the seller is from another country, then it is possible that your friend is not the only deceived user. Perhaps the police will be able to establish his identity. But I would not count on a positive outcome. Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Herbert_kopf on December 15, 2019, 07:33:50 PM transaction was made through tether coin I am sorry to everyone who posted I can't reply to All due limits but I reply to you as your post came in my eyeNot just USD, I meant USDT coin So it seems that an exchange was used to transfer USDT, and the sender would then send the items? Is that how the transaction worked ( or was supposed to) ? Cause if so, then give up. The transaction happened online, and your friend was the one whom transferred it willingly. EVEN if you brought this up to the law, there aren't enough information to go around that could help your friend. It's like how you buy in-game items on marketplaces through fiat/virtual currency. If there isn't a good middleman (either application/system or a person) to pass through, the person to be scammed can only blame themselves for not setting any thing to protect their assets. Also note the term used "tricked" meaning, fully the clients fault, if I do say so myself. I'm pretty sure legal action is done when stealing is involved, but since your friend just got tricked into sending it, I doubt movement would happen to it. Only thing you can do now is to spread the scammers name and warn others. So he agree with seller that he will pay him directly without some kind of escrow or so via communication network They were chatting a lot of before they agree on all Once my friend sent usdt, he just blocked him on social network they were chatting and that's all. I think it's dumbest way to get scammed but still... So you said even If he brought it to law it's not enough, what would be enough from him to make? Also I will answer to you another users once my limit disappear Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Herbert_kopf on December 15, 2019, 08:12:11 PM The transaction happened on an online (centralized) platform? If that's the case, you could start there by asking the platform to provide the necessary details (IP address, ID, etc.) about the seller (but even then, I doubt much can be done because of the distance). thank you for answering Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: khaled0111 on December 15, 2019, 08:58:56 PM I am sorry your friend had to learn the lesson the hard way.
You should never make deals with strangers without an escrow especially when you send first and pay in cryptocurrencies (transactions are irreversible). Sorry to say it but there is not much that can be done here. What makes you think he is from Asia? The scammer probably used a fake identity when communicating with your friend. However, you should keep track of all transactions made by his USDT address. Hoping it will lead you to his real identity. Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Herbert_kopf on December 16, 2019, 12:04:19 AM I am sorry your friend had to learn the lesson the hard way. I'll say your suggestion to my friendYou should never make deals with strangers without an escrow especially when you send first and pay in cryptocurrencies (transactions are irreversible). Sorry to say it but there is not much that can be done here. What makes you think he is from Asia? The scammer probably used a fake identity when communicating with your friend. However, you should keep track of all transactions made by his USDT address. Hoping it will lead you to his real identity. I'll update if something good happen Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: bL4nkcode on December 16, 2019, 12:21:25 AM If the deal is done in p2p way without any centralized platform, then I can say there's nothing to do with that. The scammer is probably an experienced scammer since he let your friend believe on what he's chatting since like you said they've been chatting a lot. I'm sure he/she's using a vpn or anything that hide's personal data/ip and you/your friend can't do anything about that.
The only thing he can do is make it a lesson for him, that don't trust anyone online without verifying it and/or using a trusted third party. 3k usd/usdt is not small amount, I wonder what the deal is, or something need to buy or just an investment or similar. Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Herbert_kopf on December 16, 2019, 07:58:16 AM If the deal is done in p2p way without any centralized platform, then I can say there's nothing to do with that. The scammer is probably an experienced scammer since he let your friend believe on what he's chatting since like you said they've been chatting a lot. I'm sure he/she's using a vpn or anything that hide's personal data/ip and you/your friend can't do anything about that. that's also what I ve though that's why I posted hereThe only thing he can do is make it a lesson for him, that don't trust anyone online without verifying it and/or using a trusted third party. 3k usd/usdt is not small amount, I wonder what the deal is, or something need to buy or just an investment or similar. Ye, Asian scammer acted like very trustworthy and he wasn't in hurry at all, always he say no problem I can wist you and similar He was not investing He was about to buy amazon items like phones and so by discounted prices Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: iwillweb on December 16, 2019, 08:03:00 AM you shouldn't use large amounts of money to pay in cryptocurrency. In such cases, only the law can help. But the cryptocurrency is so innovative that it is not controlled by many laws
Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Herbert_kopf on December 16, 2019, 09:11:35 AM you shouldn't use large amounts of money to pay in cryptocurrency. In such cases, only the law can help. But the cryptocurrency is so innovative that it is not controlled by many laws well the payment that seller/scammer was accepting was only crypto... Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: BitcoinsGreat on December 16, 2019, 04:45:40 PM you shouldn't use large amounts of money to pay in cryptocurrency. In such cases, only the law can help. But the cryptocurrency is so innovative that it is not controlled by many laws well the payment that seller/scammer was accepting was only crypto... Did you happen to get any clue of scammer. Its been few days and may people have suggested a few things but none of the method or way is there which can take you to the scammers. Do let us know what is your progress on the recovery of the money or you're still standing on the same position ? Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: UNOE on December 16, 2019, 04:57:35 PM you shouldn't use large amounts of money to pay in cryptocurrency. In such cases, only the law can help. But the cryptocurrency is so innovative that it is not controlled by many laws well the payment that seller/scammer was accepting was only crypto... If both live in a cryptofriendly country such as Luxembourg, Malta or Estonia then going to the proper authorities for filing a complaint can be done. https://s5.gifyu.com/images/The-World-s-Most-Crypto-Friendly-Countries.png (https://gifyu.com/image/vXJO) Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: BitcoinsGreat on December 16, 2019, 06:23:25 PM you shouldn't use large amounts of money to pay in cryptocurrency. In such cases, only the law can help. But the cryptocurrency is so innovative that it is not controlled by many laws well the payment that seller/scammer was accepting was only crypto... If both live in a cryptofriendly country such as Luxembourg, Malta or Estonia then going to the proper authorities for filing a complaint can be done. You should read the OP post again where he already told that buyer is from USA and seller is somewhere from Asia. He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia Title: Re: 3k usdt lost Post by: Herbert_kopf on December 16, 2019, 10:10:31 PM you shouldn't use large amounts of money to pay in cryptocurrency. In such cases, only the law can help. But the cryptocurrency is so innovative that it is not controlled by many laws well the payment that seller/scammer was accepting was only crypto... If both live in a cryptofriendly country such as Luxembourg, Malta or Estonia then going to the proper authorities for filing a complaint can be done. https://s5.gifyu.com/images/The-World-s-Most-Crypto-Friendly-Countries.png (https://gifyu.com/image/vXJO) Already spoken with lawyer, too low chances |
