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Title: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Techbuilt Integral on December 17, 2019, 03:59:41 AM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: audaciousbeing on December 17, 2019, 10:43:22 AM
Its a known fact that blockchain has been reputed to be an invention that cannot be relegated to he background and at the same time, there have been series of comments to claim that bitcoin would be relegated but one thing is sure while the existence of blockchain does not guarantee that bitcoin would continue to be relevant, its also does not mean the end of bitcoin because whether its is accepted or not, as far as blockchain is still being used, deployed or implemented, its subtle support for bitcoin and with that, bitcoin would continue to be relevant.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: smyslov on December 17, 2019, 12:00:14 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

After ten years and we still see people think Bitcoin will be over, I don't know how they are analyzing the situation I know OP is a newbie, but he should do a research and check if Bitcoin is really over, I hate it when people posted that Bitcoin has major flaws then go on to post a new project or coin, just promote your coin and don't create FUDS about Bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Techbuilt Integral on December 17, 2019, 12:26:58 PM
It was not the intention to show that bitcoin has major flaws. Sorry on that.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: CarnagexD on December 17, 2019, 12:37:45 PM
It was not the intention to show that bitcoin has major flaws. Sorry on that.

Despite the flaws of bitcoin it managed to dominate the market even there are many other coins that is much better than it, why? because bitcoin already gained the popularity it needs to be respected and gross reputation through the years. I guess this is another FUD, well it really looks like FUD spreading because of the bitcoin gradually decreasing price right now. One thing is for sure, bitcoin will never be over.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: bitbunnny on December 17, 2019, 12:53:57 PM
Blockchain is technology that can be implemented almost everywhere and it isn't limited only to cryptocurrencies. So, yes, from that perspective it can be said that blockchain might survive longer than Bitcoin.
Although in case for Bitcoin to be replaced or to vanish we would need better and stronger cryptocurrencies that would take its place and so far something like that isn't on horizon.
So, to my opinion both of them, Bitcoin and blockchain will continue to exist for a long time and full potential of blockchain is yet to be developed and discovered.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: shield132 on December 17, 2019, 12:55:24 PM
Bitcoin might be over? I highly doubt at the moment and while saying this I acknowledge that it's situation is pretty bad but still leaving hope of halving as a great escape for it. If halving won't be able to push bitcoin in next 6 months, then my hopes will be wasted and maybe bitcoin might be over (also other people are seeing this pessimistic situation and it's a great opportunity to launch new altcoin for them or to make current ones in better positions and with high prices).
Blockchain technologies <-- word even says, technologies, it's not a currency, the comparison between this two sounds like USD may feel inflation but new Samsung Galaxy's price will be high.
Blockchain technologies are adopting in a lot of services, most of them run by governments that includes Birth Registry, land title registry and a lot, there is huge interest from companies like Walmart, MasterCard. You know, nowadays security is one of the most important factor and blockchain adds an extra layer of protection to stored data.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Rickeo on December 17, 2019, 01:01:23 PM
After ten years and we still see people think Bitcoin will be over, I don't know how they are analyzing the situation I know OP is a newbie, but he should do a research and check if Bitcoin is really over, I hate it when people posted that Bitcoin has major flaws then go on to post a new project or coin, just promote your coin and don't create FUDS about Bitcoin.

There comes a point though when Bitcoin will reach it's pinnacle, I'm not saying we're there yet, I'm not saying Bitcoin is done, what I am saying is that, even if it's not in our lifetime, Bitcoin wont go up and up and up in value, certainly not at the rate it has been anyway.

I think there will come a time when it will steady out and any gains and or drop will be much smaller, not sure when this will happen but one day it is inevitable.

A big issue is that so many people got into BTC to make money, it was the early adopters who got into it for the tech and not many of them knew BTC would be as valuable as it is today. Modern adopters, over the past couple of years, got involved for the gains and as they've seen gains it's spread via word of mouth and more and more people have got involved.

There comes a point when that's going to die off as well, especially those who have got in over the past 12 months it's been a tricky ride. I hate to go against trends as it's shown to be unwise in the past but crypto is not like traditional markets as it's knew technology.

I actually think come this halving, it wont gain as much as people thought or hoped for or as much as previous years, even if it does it will be temporary because of the hype leading up to to that point a month or so before, FOMO may drive the price up, if it drives it up high enough it may have the potential to keep the momentum going for awhile, get more word of mouth and media attention to drive new people in and I may be wrong and that able to give it a new breath of life for awhile.

The issue is, I think Bitcoin is so massively different now than what it was when it first started, Bitcoin was never a store of value in the early day, people were using it as peer to peer electronic cash, since then it's become a store of value asset, a digital version of gold. Fees and confirmation times have been an issue for awhile it's not returned to the level of peer to peer cash for awhile now, people use BTC as their store of value and other crypto as their payment method for sending fast, cheap payments.

The problem is people have gold because it holds it's value, BTC being so volatile if it keeps dropping and doesn't keep the momentum going from it's gains, it's destined to not hold it's value. FOMO of price hikes keeps it going up at the minute, when it gains a little people think it may rocket and invest more, as they don't want to miss out and it drives the price up, people then realise it's not going up as fast as they want or the hype/momentum dies off and as a result the price drops.

In short, what I'm trying to say is that Bitcoin did so well when it came out because people were passionate about the tech, it was unique, nothing else on the market like it and it solved a problem and had a purpose, that's what brought it value and gained real ORGANIC traction, now Bitcoin has moved to a store of value where it was never really supposed to be and has a new purpose, there's coins out there doing what Bitcoin initially set out to do better and have improved upon that initial tech. I don't believe BTC has what it takes to keep going but I accept I could be wrong and people who have usually bet against BTC have ended up looking very silly. I just feel the growth we do so from time to time now, isn't really happening organically and isn't happening for the right reasons.

Like I said, despite this opinion, even if price action is being done for the wrong reasons and out of FOMO, that alone can still keep pushing BTC up and up and up for the foreseeable future, I just think there's a limit and there's only so far that can take you before it eventually comes to an end and stops. Only true, innovative, radical, useful tech can drive organic growth and sadly, I feel Bitcoin has lost it's way and isn't really any of those things anymore.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Periodik on December 17, 2019, 01:08:37 PM
Bitcoin is not even 5% of its accomplishment yet. The potential is not that shallow that it will die in its infancy.

Bitcoin cannot be over before it even start.

And mind you, Bitcoin is not about the price of BTC. That is the least significant portion of Bitcoin's growth.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: dimonstration on December 17, 2019, 01:11:22 PM
Bitcoin still have lots of future, but blockchain is more acceptable for other countries as btc is decentralised and they will not have access on it unlike in blockchain system they will be able to create applications and programs that will fit on their needs and wants. It can be use and adopt by anyone depending on restrictions that they will put that can work like BTC but in centralised way they wanted.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: panganib999 on December 17, 2019, 01:26:39 PM
It was not the intention to show that bitcoin has major flaws. Sorry on that.
It actually has. But the continuous development and changes made by the community to let it grow addressed those flaws, and that's why we are here, right now, with BTC standing at thousands of dollars per coin. But well, lets move on to blockchain which is in all honesty, a system that isn't much noticed because BTC took up majority of the popularity. Blockchain technology seems like it could provide a whole new world to how transactions work, but only a few companies have started in its development towards it. Just past 2 weeks ago or so, China declared it's seriousness in adapting the blockchain technology and are fully focusing on its development, which I fully agree on.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Blackdeath on December 17, 2019, 01:45:16 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance
In my own opinion, a lot of countries are starting to adopt blockchain technology, even they banned bitcoin and cryptocurrencies due to increase of scams and other illegal activities, but i don't think that would be the reason why bitcoin will be over because even bitcoin decreases it's price badly there are still possibilities that it would be leagalize as a currency all over the world due to it's popularity and innovation.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: msarro on December 17, 2019, 02:14:49 PM
They both came together and will always live and prosper together. While blockchain is getting acceptance from governments ( With Xi’s backing, China looks to become a world leader in blockchain as US policy is absent (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/16/china-looks-to-become-blockchain-world-leader-with-xi-jinping-backing.html)) bitcoin has a strong community behind him. I don't think from here, bitcoin has any way of going back.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: ReiMomo on December 17, 2019, 02:17:12 PM
There are a lot of countries now start adopting blockchain technology because this is very useful in terms of economic growth and progress.
But blockchain will not work without a host and it should have strong crypto that might be used, bitcoin is the one so far. I dont think bitcoin might be over, in fact, it is now on the global market and become in the mainstream.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Pinkris128 on December 17, 2019, 02:35:42 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance
What could be the reasons why bitcoin might be over? Is it because of it's price today? I think not because bitcoin is also a part of blockchain technology, so both bitcoin and blockchain will live. Also, a lot of countries and large businesses are now adopting blockchain technology no doubt that some of them are also buying bitcoin, so i assume bitcoin will definitely live.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: el kaka22 on December 17, 2019, 03:10:11 PM
Bitcoin will never be over. There are so many people who enjoy making headlines this big so that they can get attention, you guys think OP considers bitcoin to be over? He knows it is not over, he knows it is not going to be over any time soon. He just claims that on the headline so that his topic can get clicks, that is what people in the online world wants, clicks and attention.

Everyone can be someone much more important online than their real life which is why they are doing something so major. Blockchain is definitely awesome and in the recent years it has seen more attention than bitcoin thats true and it will only get bigger but just because blockchain is getting attention more than bitcoin doesn't mean that bitcoin is somehow over.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Febo on December 17, 2019, 04:06:32 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore

Bitcoin will go down when last miner will stop mining it. For Bitcoin to work you only need two users. Where there were Satoshi and Hal Finney, they made it work. Satoshi by himself could not.  I mean he could send coins to himself, but that would be just pointless. 


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: webtricks on December 17, 2019, 05:49:38 PM
There are a lot of countries now start adopting blockchain technology because this is very useful in terms of economic growth and progress.
But blockchain will not work without a host and it should have strong crypto that might be used, bitcoin is the one so far. I dont think bitcoin might be over, in fact, it is now on the global market and become in the mainstream.

What do you mean by host? I would describe Blockchain Technology as a way of storing data so that data is resistant to manipulation. It is substitute to traditional database models by recording data in the blocks. Creating cryptocurrency is rather an instance or utility of Blockchain Technology. Else otherwise, blockchain is self sufficient to run even without having any monetary system (or cryptocurrency) running over it.

Bitcoin on its own doesn't contribute anything towards application of Blockchain Technology. Developers can't use Bitcoin's ecosystem (or blockchain) to develop some applications over it. Bitcoin only has single utility i.e. to be used as currency. More recent cryptocurrencies like Ethereum have opened the door for developers to create their own applications without creating blockchain first.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: BitcoinTurk on December 17, 2019, 05:52:46 PM
I've written messages about it before, and I want to write it back here. Yes, of course, Bitcoin will lose its market power and its usage rate will decrease. Full deletion from the market is also unlikely, but whatever happens to Bitcoin, block chain technology will evolve more and will have a very important place in our lives. With the developing technology, the usage of block chain is increasing day by day and this is a good development for this technology. With today's market, it is difficult to comment for years to come, but block chain technology will reach a much better position.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Mahanton on December 17, 2019, 05:59:22 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore

Bitcoin will go down when last miner will stop mining it. For Bitcoin to work you only need two users. Where there were Satoshi and Hal Finney, they made it work. Satoshi by himself could not.  I mean he could send coins to himself, but that would be just pointless. 
And this is where this revolutionary project is recognized due to that usage and feature.I cant say that bitcoin is already over yet
people do really love to say such things anytime the current price market is going down.They say the same things and now
it do talk or somewhat mentions about project or similar things? It wont really be that effective for sure.Blockchain tech is for sure
for it to be used and applied on longer terms which i dont have any doubt on that.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on December 17, 2019, 06:08:16 PM
After ten years and we still see people think Bitcoin will be over, I don't know how they are analyzing the situation I know OP is a newbie, but he should do a research and check if Bitcoin is really over
Bitcoin isn't "over".  I'm not even sure what that means, which is why I put it in quotes.  If bitcoin was dead, it wouldn't be valued at over $6k would it? 

I also suspect that OP would not have started a thread like this a few months ago in the summer when bitcoin was over $10k.  So did bitcoin die sometime between then and now?  I don't think so.  It isn't dead or dying, just taking a breather. OP must be new, because he obviously hasn't seen this kind of volatility before.

There comes a point though when Bitcoin will reach it's pinnacle, I'm not saying we're there yet, I'm not saying Bitcoin is done,
It hasn't reached its pinnacle and it isn't "done" yet.  You'll see.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: KennyR on December 17, 2019, 06:25:10 PM
Blockchain was known to the world through bitcoin, whether my understanding is correct or no I don't know. If bitcoin isn't successful blockchain too might have gone as an unused technology. Now through bitcoin it is known as a technology that can make everything in a perfect way in an efficient manner. Until blockchain lives bitcoin will live, because only a technology better than blockchain only can defeat bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: imstillthebest on December 17, 2019, 06:45:18 PM
Blockchain was known to the world through bitcoin, whether my understanding is correct or no I don't know.
that is also what i witness so you are right , we believe in one thing   . blockchain became noticeable after btc got popular  but now , people easily say that blockchain can live without btc  .


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If bitcoin isn't successful blockchain too might have gone as an unused technology. Now through bitcoin it is known as a technology that can make everything in a perfect way in an efficient manner. Until blockchain lives bitcoin will live, because only a technology better than blockchain only can defeat bitcoin.

that can happen  but if btc already known but let say didnt get a hype i guess blockchain can still continue because people are going to inspect if what drives btc  . btc itself is not also a technology and most importantly  it cant make anything perfect because btc isnt also perfect .


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: darkangel11 on December 17, 2019, 08:40:32 PM
Blockchain was known to the world through bitcoin, whether my understanding is correct or no I don't know. If bitcoin isn't successful blockchain too might have gone as an unused technology. Now through bitcoin it is known as a technology that can make everything in a perfect way in an efficient manner. Until blockchain lives bitcoin will live, because only a technology better than blockchain only can defeat bitcoin.

Yes, it is correct. Blockchain was created for bitcoin and without the first use case (bitcoin) nobody would even be interested in blockchain and nobody would be able to see it work and recognize what else can be done with it.
OP is proclaiming Bitcoin dead when in fact only 4 years ago people were trading Bitcoin for 300 USD! I bought some of my Bitcoins for 500-600 USD. I understand that some of newcomers can look at the last 4 months and think that it's dying but it's 10 years old! We've seen much worse.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: hahay on December 17, 2019, 10:33:05 PM
It will not end, indeed some people will think about the worrying future of bitcoin because it has no stable value and is still difficult to use in a wider scope, but if we are aware of countries that have reduced to using cash, then at least it is a way in which digital money will be more developed in the future and about bitcoin itself which has become a pioneer for this digital era so of course bitcoin will not end just because of the continuing decline so far.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: gentlemand on December 17, 2019, 10:35:34 PM
There comes a point though when Bitcoin will reach it's pinnacle, I'm not saying we're there yet, I'm not saying Bitcoin is done, what I am saying is that, even if it's not in our lifetime, Bitcoin wont go up and up and up in value, certainly not at the rate it has been anyway.

A 'boring' Bitcoin means it's become fucking humongous. By that point even if there's no new blood it will still be one of the very best places to park your value as it will continue to appreciate against the depreciating money most people are paid in.

It will also be immune to the unimaginable kludges that are coming to attempt to keep the regular economies twitching. We ain't seen nothing yet.

People who think like the average peabrain here with the patience and perspective of a toddler who announce doom because they got fucked on Bitmex today will be long gone and long broken. Those who stick around will have rather different feelings eventually.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Karmakid on December 18, 2019, 01:46:14 AM
The blockchain is a separate thing from bitcoin, bitcoin is only an asset that anyone can trade but it doesn't equalize to the potential success of blockchain. Blockchain is a revolutionary technology that our world needs because it will give efficiency and also a form of security for any system that will use it.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Assface16678 on December 18, 2019, 06:12:32 AM
It will not end, indeed some people will think about the worrying future of bitcoin because it has no stable value and is still difficult to use in a wider scope, but if we are aware of countries that have reduced to using cash, then at least it is a way in which digital money will be more developed in the future and about bitcoin itself which has become a pioneer for this digital era so of course bitcoin will not end just because of the continuing decline so far.

The price of the bitcoin today is not reasonable because from the previous months came from nine thousand dollars the price fall to over seven thousand dollars it is not suitable for the people who already invested the bitcoin from the last months because it has a loss of income today, but its good for the new investors, because they are now invested with the value of the bitcoin, is low and it gives them profit soon if the price grows up. The bitcoin is not over yet because this is just a start of having reset of the price of the coin, the price before of the bitcoin is low and rise again in this 2017, so there is a possibility this may happen again, the price of the bitcoin today is not profitable for short term trading it is better to use the altcoins for your daily income, but in the long term for sure the bitcoin will be back soon.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: jostorres on December 18, 2019, 08:35:29 AM
Nah, you're wrong, Bitcoin is not going to die. The reason why some of you say that Bitcoin is going to die is because you see the price fall. Price falling doesn't mean that bitcoin is dying, the price fluctuates because BTC is volatile. The only thing that matters most is how many people are ready to make use of Bitcoin, the price doesn't really matter. As long as people are still making use of Bitcoin then it is not dead, even if the price should fall down to zero.

The same thing with Blockchain, it's not going to die as well. Blockchain is going to be used in lots of ways and not only transaction. It's left for us to discover areas where they will be useful.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Murat on December 18, 2019, 09:56:19 AM
Day by day Blockchain is becoming a popular platform around the world because of having a future's potentialities, I also think Bitcoin is getting accepted in many regions, though it's been price volatility still a lot of people are getting attached to this platform in this days, It's sad but true that Bitcoin is going down for many reasons but following my observation, it will stay for a long time and blockchain will create a revolution in the financial aspect. but one thing you have to remind that Blockchain has been popular through Bitcoin so the success of this system also more or less depending on Bitcoin's stability.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Lottoshi on December 18, 2019, 09:59:59 AM
Here’s the number of times bitcoin was said to be over, 2020 updated

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Colt81 on December 18, 2019, 10:21:53 AM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance
Blockchain will definitely live because a lot of countries and businesses are starting to adopt blockchain that it is very useful for making transactions, but i don't think that bitcoin will be over because bitcoin can also be useful the only thing that they hate with bitcoin is it does not have a stable price and it is been used for illegal activities, that is why a lot of countries banned it.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Betwrong on December 18, 2019, 11:27:44 AM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
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I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Below is a quote from the very beginning:
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"The year 2000 has already come and gone some two decades ago, without leaving another memorable
reminiscence than the anxiety for the bug of 2000 that never happened.

Nothing has changed, or at least not much more than in any other period. The new millennium might be
placed in the middle of any boring century and would just mean our passing continuous history."

OP, I was going to read your document, but I stopped right there, sorry. Nothing has changed? Really? Look around, mate!


Today, it is estimated that more than 5 billion people have mobile devices, and over half of these connections are smartphones.

No one could even dream of it 20 years ago. Well, science-fiction writers could fantasize that some superheroes or James Bonds could have similar devices, but not 2.5 billion people.

This is the reality: today the world around us is changing faster than ever before. It's strange that you haven't noticed it. And maybe because of this inattentiveness you have a wrong impression about the place of Bitcoin in the future world.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: karanggatak on December 18, 2019, 11:31:41 AM
yes you are right op most people and the government would agree and support blockchain technology even if they don't like or reject bitcoin. and if someday bitcoin crashes blockchain technology will continue to develop because blockchain technology can be applied in all fields.
but i never thought bitcoin would crash i am sure bitcoin will be there for a long time. bitcoin already has a large fan and community so it won't be easy to fall and disappear.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Amel on December 18, 2019, 11:43:20 AM
Blockchain was known to the world through bitcoin, whether my understanding is correct or no I don't know. If bitcoin isn't successful blockchain too might have gone as an unused technology. Now through bitcoin it is known as a technology that can make everything in a perfect way in an efficient manner. Until blockchain lives bitcoin will live, because only a technology better than blockchain only can defeat bitcoin.

Why when bitcoin dies then the blockchain will become unused? aren't the two things different? Blockchain is a technological innovation, where this technology can be developed far better than just focusing on the financial system.

If we explore many threads in this forum, there are already many members who express their opinions about blockchain technology in the future. Many innovations that can be developed with this technology such as elections, insurance, IoT, etc.
Other references: https://blockgeeks.com/guides/blockchain-applications/


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: airdnasxela on December 18, 2019, 02:49:49 PM
yes you are right op most people and the government would agree and support blockchain technology even if they don't like or reject bitcoin. and if someday bitcoin crashes blockchain technology will continue to develop because blockchain technology can be applied in all fields.
but i never thought bitcoin would crash i am sure bitcoin will be there for a long time. bitcoin already has a large fan and community so it won't be easy to fall and disappear.
Since Bitcoin first used blockchain technology, their names are already attached to each other and even if most government will accept blockchain technology, even if they don't like Bitcoin, it's hard to remove bitcoin's name when talking about blockchain technology. I can see that as long blockchain continue to be known and accepted, people's knowledge about crypto and bitcoin will also increase. Then Bitcoin will be more stronger.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: clickerz on December 18, 2019, 04:42:20 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore

Bitcoin will go down when last miner will stop mining it. For Bitcoin to work you only need two users. Where there were Satoshi and Hal Finney, they made it work. Satoshi by himself could not.  I mean he could send coins to himself, but that would be just pointless. 

I agree and aside from miners here must be sender and receiver or the masses who'll use this blockchain technology. As long as bitcoin fulfilled its purpose, a decentralized cryptocurrency then bitcoin is here to stay. As long as bitcoin is being utilized because of its flexibility, secure and fast and being decentralized more people are joining the ranks of using it.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: alexsandria on December 18, 2019, 05:21:09 PM
There are a lot of countries now start adopting blockchain technology because this is very useful in terms of economic growth and progress.
But blockchain will not work without a host and it should have strong crypto that might be used, bitcoin is the one so far. I dont think bitcoin might be over, in fact, it is now on the global market and become in the mainstream.

Bitcoin was popularized by Satoshi making an advantage towards blockchain technology. However, some big companies have a fear, and are not willing to take the risk bitcoin has to offer. Thus, they make their own coin as well, but the thing is people always ended up in bitcoin. If people are going to accept blockchain might as well take bitcoin in there.

I can imagine how decent the market is, if people are going to do such thing.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: CarnagexD on December 18, 2019, 05:34:19 PM
Nah, you're wrong, Bitcoin is not going to die. The reason why some of you say that Bitcoin is going to die is because you see the price fall. Price falling doesn't mean that bitcoin is dying, the price fluctuates because BTC is volatile. The only thing that matters most is how many people are ready to make use of Bitcoin, the price doesn't really matter. As long as people are still making use of Bitcoin then it is not dead, even if the price should fall down to zero.
We think that bitcoin will not die because of its price right now, thousands higher than the others so that is why we keep telling it to ourselves but what is real is that bitcoin could actually die, not now but it is possible. The fact that it is decentralized speaks a lot, its price and reputation gained from people's trust on which can be relinquish again especially now that we have better cryptocurrencies like EOS.



The same thing with Blockchain, it's not going to die as well. Blockchain is going to be used in lots of ways and not only transaction. It's left for us to discover areas where they will be useful.

Blockchain as multi-field in tact is impossible to die. I believe that it id thr future's technology of data security which means protecting of public good so there is no way it will be just a thing to set aside.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on December 18, 2019, 06:25:58 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.
Is that to you a small thing? Bitcoin is the first digital store of value ever created, that is not something small and it is a very useful function to perform especially since bitcoin is not connected to any country in particular so unlike the dollar it is a real universal currency of which you have complete control and that no one can take away legally from you without your permission, to me that is a huge thing and even if bitcoin never became adopted globally that will still be enough to guarantee its existence for a very long time.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: error08 on December 18, 2019, 09:01:37 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

What kind of forecast? Bitcoin will fulfill the forecast and will rebound again and over again, $7000 isn't the limit for bitcoin, it will soar over $10K and $20K in the next year.
Bitcoin isn't just a store of value, it has a real function as a peer to peer electronic money, we use it here as a means of payment for most transactions like the payout, buy and sell, on a daily basis. Blockchain maybe many things depending on how its used, however without bitcoin, none of those digital currencies will last long.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: wheelz1200 on December 18, 2019, 10:43:53 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Why bitcoin is going down so it must be over.  Every year these silly little posts, threads or articles come out.  Bitcoin is not done for.  Look back from the inception where peoe were calling it the end, the honey badger always does the same thing, rebound even stronger than before.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: batang_bitcoin on December 18, 2019, 11:33:18 PM
Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money
And this contradicts to the title that you just placed. What other "money" or what kind of evolution does blockchain will do? as of the moment, bitcoin is the best use case that it's ever done for the usage of its technology. How many countries or gov't that does look into this integration? I doubt it that most of them will approve the usage of it because it can stop the shenanigans that they do inside their positions.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: barabarian1 on December 19, 2019, 02:39:54 AM
why people always say bitcoin will end when they see bitcoin continue to decline. the decline that occurs bitcoin is common because bitcoin has high volatility we don't need to be afraid and panicked.
and now more and more countries and companies are adopting blockchain technology but they haven't legalized bitcoin yet. because in my opinion blcockhain technology can be applied anywhere without bitcoin, blockchain can stand alone because it is technology. but bitcoin cannot be separated from blockchain technology. and I'm optimistic that when blockchain adoption gets higher, it will encourage adoption of bitcoin as well.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: mamahdedeh on December 19, 2019, 03:07:15 AM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Why bitcoin is going down so it must be over.  Every year these silly little posts, threads or articles come out.  Bitcoin is not done for.  Look back from the inception where peoe were calling it the end, the honey badger always does the same thing, rebound even stronger than before.
those who talk like that seem to be experiencing a deep decline in assets, so panic and make negative news about bitcoin. I think this is a reasonable cycle, where the market moves to follow the trend that is happening. therefore we must learn to be wise investors, so we can take advantage of the situation



Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: kapalmabur on December 19, 2019, 07:46:37 AM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Why bitcoin is going down so it must be over.  Every year these silly little posts, threads or articles come out.  Bitcoin is not done for.  Look back from the inception where peoe were calling it the end, the honey badger always does the same thing, rebound even stronger than before.
those who talk like that seem to be experiencing a deep decline in assets, so panic and make negative news about bitcoin. I think this is a reasonable cycle, where the market moves to follow the trend that is happening. therefore we must learn to be wise investors, so we can take advantage of the situation


even if something happens with Bitcoin in the future, at least we have to prepare it from now, learning the science of trading might be able to help you still be able to get profits and income, even though bitcoin is dead you can trade on the stock market, hopefully Bitcoin will still be there to us


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: ultrloa on December 19, 2019, 08:07:58 AM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Why bitcoin is going down so it must be over.  Every year these silly little posts, threads or articles come out.  Bitcoin is not done for.  Look back from the inception where peoe were calling it the end, the honey badger always does the same thing, rebound even stronger than before.
those who talk like that seem to be experiencing a deep decline in assets, so panic and make negative news about bitcoin. I think this is a reasonable cycle, where the market moves to follow the trend that is happening. therefore we must learn to be wise investors, so we can take advantage of the situation


even if something happens with Bitcoin in the future, at least we have to prepare it from now, learning the science of trading might be able to help you still be able to get profits and income, even though bitcoin is dead you can trade on the stock market, hopefully Bitcoin will still be there to us

It's hard to say that bitcoin will actually died since in my opinion as long as there are people who keeps earning with it the more bitcoins gain fame although we are in bad situation right now but for sure there will be a glory days that can pump up the bitcoins since imagine what struggles comes in the past which I think it's more bigger and bitcoin doesn't much have value at that time. So we should trust the process since if blockchain will get it's fame provably bitcoins will be notice to.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: bettercrypto on December 19, 2019, 11:52:40 AM
Its a known fact that blockchain has been reputed to be an invention that cannot be relegated to he background and at the same time, there have been series of comments to claim that bitcoin would be relegated but one thing is sure while the existence of blockchain does not guarantee that bitcoin would continue to be relevant, its also does not mean the end of bitcoin because whether its is accepted or not, as far as blockchain is still being used, deployed or implemented, its subtle support for bitcoin and with that, bitcoin would continue to be relevant.
Definitely agree!
Even though cryptocurrency itself crashed never came back, blockchain will remain alive. It has a lot of purpose. You can use it in a company to store files and other stuff. Even you don't subscribe to any cryptocurrency, you can have access in blochchain. Just hire a programmer that knows how to create blockchain for the company and has an expertise in crypto as well.
But even it live for a long run, bitcoin will never crash down.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: justdimin on December 19, 2019, 03:10:19 PM
I love going to the bitcoin obituaries website, it shows how much mainstream media hates bitcoin and basically there are a lot of bearish people who HOPE bitcoin dies yet here we are, we might be down right but not dead and will never die like they hope we will.

The weird thing is whenever bitcoin gets more famous there is also more talks about how it is dying. Look at 2017 there was 124 articles about bitcoin dying in the same year that bitcoin reached 20 thousand dollars, in 2018 when it was actually not doing well it dropped to 93 because people lost interest and it wasn't a headline that made people click, in 2019 we all got better and built our own news world for crypto so it went down as much as 40. I am sure over time people will stop calling bitcoin dead.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Shasha80 on December 20, 2019, 01:36:53 AM
Now there are a lot of news or topics that say that bitcoin will end, bitcoin will die and bitcoin scam and so on. Don't because the price of
bitcoin is now down, we keep thinking it will be the end of bitcoin. Such thinking is very misleading, if we look bitcoin trips for 10 years.
Certainly will understand the price conditions like this is normal for bitcoin. Now we are talking about blockchain, from the beginning created
bitcoin and blockchain are two inseparable things. So from that makes me sure both will survive. Now we must be sure in the future of bitcoin,
especially the halving event is getting closer. So we will see what the future development will be like.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: ultrloa on December 20, 2019, 04:39:48 AM
Now there are a lot of news or topics that say that bitcoin will end, bitcoin will die and bitcoin scam and so on. Don't because the price of
bitcoin is now down, we keep thinking it will be the end of bitcoin. Such thinking is very misleading, if we look bitcoin trips for 10 years.
Certainly will understand the price conditions like this is normal for bitcoin. Now we are talking about blockchain, from the beginning created
bitcoin and blockchain are two inseparable things. So from that makes me sure both will survive. Now we must be sure in the future of bitcoin,
especially the halving event is getting closer. So we will see what the future development will be like.

There are tensions spreading due to the fact that market is not stable and it creates losers from time to time, but if they scan the history on how bitcoins would react on this situation for sure they will understand that there are volatility that will strike the market and they need to learn to ride with it so that hey can earn since thinking about earning always in the pump is totally not going anywhere and we experience that for so many times.

And for sure it will survive since both have relation and for sure it will give a big leap especially halving is coming next year.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: wheelz1200 on December 20, 2019, 03:12:30 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Why bitcoin is going down so it must be over.  Every year these silly little posts, threads or articles come out.  Bitcoin is not done for.  Look back from the inception where peoe were calling it the end, the honey badger always does the same thing, rebound even stronger than before.
those who talk like that seem to be experiencing a deep decline in assets, so panic and make negative news about bitcoin. I think this is a reasonable cycle, where the market moves to follow the trend that is happening. therefore we must learn to be wise investors, so we can take advantage of the situation


even if something happens with Bitcoin in the future, at least we have to prepare it from now, learning the science of trading might be able to help you still be able to get profits and income, even though bitcoin is dead you can trade on the stock market, hopefully Bitcoin will still be there to us

What do you mean "even though bitcoin is dead".  Bitcoin is more "alive" than it ever has been regardless of price.  Bitcoin has been expanding into more of the population with more companies utilizing it as well as the backbone "blockchain".  Tons of research is going into it more than ever.  Price is meaningless to whether bitcoin is a live or dead.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Palider on December 20, 2019, 04:12:06 PM
Bitcoin will not be over because many people trust thia and even governments, And as long as blockchain still exist bitcoin will still here even some country banned using this great invention.  Bitcoin will increase and this is because of our support and blockchain.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: oktana on December 20, 2019, 05:11:45 PM
several patents connected to the blockchain network are still dominated by large companies.

what the op mentioned about teraflops etc., will not affect anything if it still runs independently and does not build partnerships with real companies that focus on building networks. I don't want to compare with bitcoin because it has a different market and influence. but independent blockchain technology must also have a strong structure related to the economic activity it has.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Dart18 on December 20, 2019, 05:23:10 PM
Could have been better of a read if only the title is correct.
It is like a click bait and I dont like people doing that just to seek attention and for fheir articles to be read.

Sorry about that. I didn't read about a single thing of your links.
Next time, make it correct even from the start. Dont fool people.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: mirrasel on December 20, 2019, 05:25:28 PM
Blockchain technology is the mother of Bitcoin!


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: AniviaBtc on December 21, 2019, 08:08:26 AM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Why bitcoin is going down so it must be over.  Every year these silly little posts, threads or articles come out.  Bitcoin is not done for.  Look back from the inception where peoe were calling it the end, the honey badger always does the same thing, rebound even stronger than before.
those who talk like that seem to be experiencing a deep decline in assets, so panic and make negative news about bitcoin. I think this is a reasonable cycle, where the market moves to follow the trend that is happening. therefore we must learn to be wise investors, so we can take advantage of the situation


even if something happens with Bitcoin in the future, at least we have to prepare it from now, learning the science of trading might be able to help you still be able to get profits and income, even though bitcoin is dead you can trade on the stock market, hopefully Bitcoin will still be there to us

What do you mean "even though bitcoin is dead".  Bitcoin is more "alive" than it ever has been regardless of price.  Bitcoin has been expanding into more of the population with more companies utilizing it as well as the backbone "blockchain".  Tons of research is going into it more than ever.  Price is meaningless to whether bitcoin is a live or dead.

You must be right because I know a lot of people who still value bitcoin more than any other crypto. But I believe that even when bitcoin becomes old, the blockchain technology will live more.

That's the reason why the blockchain technology was invented, to help us processed our necessities digitally. Bitcoin is not dead, its just that it take a break.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Janation on December 21, 2019, 08:12:55 AM
Blockchain technology is the mother of Bitcoin!

I don't see it as a mother but the roots of cryptocurrencies.

Despite the fall of the price, the redness of the price chart, this is nothing compared to the fall of the past so I am not really afraid. This is normal so I don't think we should worry. For me, this is the time for us to buy so just think of it as a chance for those investors that want to buy or reinvest again on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as well.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: gabmen on December 21, 2019, 09:00:56 AM
Blockchain technology is the mother of Bitcoin!

I don't see it as a mother but the roots of cryptocurrencies.

Despite the fall of the price, the redness of the price chart, this is nothing compared to the fall of the past so I am not really afraid. This is normal so I don't think we should worry. For me, this is the time for us to buy so just think of it as a chance for those investors that want to buy or reinvest again on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as well.

Lol. Blockchain has nothing to do with crypto's price. It deals with crypto's usage. And blockchain isn't limited to bitcoin and crypto. It's  technology is what makes it more than useful especially if we're able to integrate it with daily tasks and transactions. There's a whole lot of use for this technology and crypto and bitcoin is just a small part of it's use.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Bezobraznike on December 21, 2019, 11:24:46 PM
Blockchain technology is the mother of Bitcoin!

I don't see it as a mother but the roots of cryptocurrencies.

Despite the fall of the price, the redness of the price chart, this is nothing compared to the fall of the past so I am not really afraid. This is normal so I don't think we should worry. For me, this is the time for us to buy so just think of it as a chance for those investors that want to buy or reinvest again on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as well.

Lol. Blockchain has nothing to do with crypto's price. It deals with crypto's usage. And blockchain isn't limited to bitcoin and crypto. It's  technology is what makes it more than useful especially if we're able to integrate it with daily tasks and transactions. There's a whole lot of use for this technology and crypto and bitcoin is just a small part of it's use.

    Blockchain technology! When you say it you know what it is. Bitcoin and other coins are built on Blockchain technology.
I'm just a simple guy, I don't understand many stuff I read, I'm still learning even after couple years in crypto-currencies.
    Technology is one thing, price is something else. What now worth cents, can worth much more in the future. We had
that examples many times trough the history. Way to the top is long, it can last for decades, but we must agree that
crypto-currencies already achieved a lot in just 10 years, so we can try to imagine what can happen in next 10 years.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: CryptoBry on December 22, 2019, 03:28:09 AM


While I agree that Bitcoin may not be the best nor the perfect cryptocurrency but being the first, the most recognized and the most utilized in my opinion this can be lasting for a generation and even more. Though of course, we really can't tell exactly how things will be transpiring in the future but I have high hopes on Bitcoin more than any other cryptocurrency on the market. There will always be competitors, and they are symptoms that we have a healthy and competitive marketplace, something that we should actually be proud of. Now, with the blockchain technology, I am sure that more and more industries and even countries will be adopting it and that is good. However, adoption in the blockchain technology does not mean that Bitcoin is going to be left behind. There are more excitement in Bitcoin and more stability in the blockchain, this is akin to the yin and yang concept.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: iamsheikhadil on December 22, 2019, 03:34:20 AM
Well, that will happen as blockchain will find its use channeled into other applications like keeping public records, police and criminal records, medical and property records etc which will prevent them from deleted or manipulated in anyway which will make the world a much better place :)


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: drlukacs on December 22, 2019, 04:05:02 AM
 Yes, although blockchain technology is serving the growth of bitcoin and other alts, it is two completely different individuals. Blockchain technology can use any kind of individual to record on the ledger, Bitcoin is just one of them. So blockchain technology thrives our economy will certainly go up but for Crypto we are not sure. Anyway, I still hope that someday blockchain technology will be widely used in many countries, it will be an opportunity for sales businesses to grow strongly in many countries. do you think so ?


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Kevondo on December 22, 2019, 07:35:32 AM
Blockchain technology is the mother of Bitcoin!

I don't see it as a mother but the roots of cryptocurrencies.

Despite the fall of the price, the redness of the price chart, this is nothing compared to the fall of the past so I am not really afraid. This is normal so I don't think we should worry. For me, this is the time for us to buy so just think of it as a chance for those investors that want to buy or reinvest again on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as well.
It is basically the pioneer of crypto currencies over all. Bitcoin is the first ever coin which gave the concept of blockchain technology. Right now though the mighty currency is going through some tough time in terms of prices but vigilant people are taking it as an opportunity of getting their hands on this expensive currency with little investment because one thing is for sure with bitcoin i.e. profit.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: xen1oph on December 22, 2019, 07:41:48 AM
Well, that will happen as blockchain will find its use channeled into other applications like keeping public records, police and criminal records, medical and property records etc which will prevent them from deleted or manipulated in anyway which will make the world a much better place :)

It is sad! Although everything has its time.
We can say that if this happens, then Bitcoin is a hero who sacrificed himself to save the world.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Polar91 on December 22, 2019, 08:11:19 AM
It is sad! Although everything has its time.
We can say that if this happens, then Bitcoin is a hero who sacrificed himself to save the world.

Well, let's take this topic seriously, the backbone of bitcoin is the blockchain, and if there's something bad happens to bitcoin networks, meaning to say that the blockchain is compromised, so we cannot really say and infer that when bitcoin becomes over, the blockchain is still there with complete good reputation in the market. So the only option that bitcoin could be over with the blockchain remains the same is when people stops utilizing bitcoin and merely, the market price falls so badly.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: yulionoo on December 22, 2019, 09:10:14 AM
Yes, although blockchain technology is serving the growth of bitcoin and other alts, it is two completely different individuals. Blockchain technology can use any kind of individual to record on the ledger, Bitcoin is just one of them. So blockchain technology thrives our economy will certainly go up but for Crypto we are not sure. Anyway, I still hope that someday blockchain technology will be widely used in many countries, it will be an opportunity for sales businesses to grow strongly in many countries. do you think so ?

yes I agree with you if one day bitcoin crashes and is replaced by other coins. then the blockchain technology will not be lost because this blockchain is a technology that can be applied in all fields not only cryptocurrency. there are already several banks and companies that have adopted the blockchain in their transaction system. and I'm sure the number in the future will increase.
but I never thought bitcoin would crash even though the current value of bitcoin does not mean that bitcoin will end. I'm optimistic that bitcoin can still pump again.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on December 23, 2019, 06:11:05 PM
Why bitcoin is going down so it must be over.  Every year these silly little posts, threads or articles come out.  Bitcoin is not done for.  Look back from the inception where peoe were calling it the end, the honey badger always does the same thing, rebound even stronger than before.
Some people just like to be negative about the future of bitcoin because they cannot believe that a currency that is independent from state control can actually reach its goal of becoming adopted throughout the world, but the more I think about it the more chances I see for bitcoin to achieve its goal, the system that is currently in place cannot last forever, at some point it will fail and when it does people are going to look for alternatives and bitcoin will be there to help them, if anything the longer the system takes to crash the better it plays for bitcoin because the longer it survives this brings greater credibility to it.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: TinaK on December 23, 2019, 06:58:57 PM
It is not possible at all because until the cryptocurrencies alive Bitcoin will be at the top and nothing can overtake it buddy. Blockchain explorer are there to check the coins hashes and other stuffs buddy.
If such value is there means only people will always attracted to this technology.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: kotik085 on December 23, 2019, 07:11:55 PM
The chains of the blockchain network, even nuclear war will not destroy them, and the blockchain will live, like bitcoin. This is very pleasing and encouraging for the future of cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Aying on December 24, 2019, 08:35:00 AM
bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live

It will happen if there any reason that bitcoin needs to disappear or surpass bitcoin, but as long as blockchain live bitcoin will remain and everyone will still invest. we can not sure that bitcoin will might be vanish and blockchain system will remain, we know that blockchain is popular because of bitcoin we can not separate each of them because they are connected no matter what happen.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: onrise on December 24, 2019, 10:09:45 AM
Well, that will happen as blockchain will find its use channeled into other applications like keeping public records, police and criminal records, medical and property records etc which will prevent them from deleted or manipulated in anyway which will make the world a much better place :)


Also if government decide to bring their own coin if they want to make use of the blockchain and promote their own con within their country then too the it would effect btc or any other coin for that matter as those people would be bound to use that coin only.



Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: vintages on December 24, 2019, 03:01:38 PM
Too bad some people are already losing hope when the massive era is yet to begin.
The blockchain technology is an admirable technology that will effect the future technology in years too come. Fortunately, Bitcoin is part of it, its more like when we mention Blockchain, Bitcoin will be popped up. So I think the era of Bitcoin is yet to come.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: fullhdpixel on December 24, 2019, 07:04:20 PM
Bitcoin has one purpose, that purpose will never die but it lacks all the flexibility blockchain has. Bitcoin is a currency and even if the world suddenly has a change of hearts (not possible, just making a point) and everyone starts using bitcoin and there is no more fiat in the world, that is still a currency and nothing more.

Blockchain is a lot more than that, blockchain could be used for many many things and it is certainly something that could be improved constantly to take shape whatever you want with it. I personally can't think of anything myself but we see developers constantly building newer and better things via blockchain. That is why blockchain could find itself a lot more spaces to continue living, not just finance related but anything could use blockchain.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: abeecrypto on December 24, 2019, 08:44:05 PM
Nobody ever thinks there will be a rebound until it happens. I don't think Bitcoin will be over anytime soon. In fact, I think it's just getting started. The whole Blockchain is just getting started.

I quite agree that even if bitcoin goes down, blockchain will still remain. There is so much Blockchain has to offer.

Like, in the case of your fictionally proposed solar-powered system usage. Actually, there have been some good strides on that. A company called FUERGY is making some good progress on that.  No fictions.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: NathanJB on December 25, 2019, 04:51:54 AM
Bitcoin will be over sooner or later. This is not a case of whether Bitcoin will exist forever or not. Bitcoin will eventually be replaced with another currency in the future that will perfectly fit the circumstances of the times. The same with blockchain. Blockchain is here along with Bitcoin. But it will also be gone along with Bitcoin in the future. They will go together. Neither of the two will perish earlier than the other.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Ziskinberg on December 25, 2019, 05:04:45 AM
Bitcoin will never be over, people especially whales will not allow that.
We will live and continue to prosper with the help of market adoption, bitcoin is blockchain because it was invented because of it, so it will live for long as long as blockchain is here.

The banks can adopt with blockchain but they all owe everything with bitcoin.
We can make it simple with this one.. .satoshi - bitcoin - blockchain, they all live as one.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: barbara44 on December 25, 2019, 05:07:32 AM
Lol dude, who told you that bitcoin will be over? Just a fall in price doesn’t mean it’s over. BTC is a volatile asset and if you’re expecting the price to keep going up then you’re making a mistake, the price isn’t meant to be going up forever. I understand that a lot of people wants to make lots of profit and they expect the price to be going up whenever they invest, otherwise they would say that Bitcoin is dead and then they start selling their coins.

People really needs to understand that Bitcoin is a risky investment, and being risky doesn’t mean there will be chances of making money at all times, rather there is possibility that you can lose your money instead. If you’re too scared to take the risks of Bitcoin you should go for stable coins like PAX and USDT.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: awik p on December 25, 2019, 07:04:34 AM
Bitcoin will never be over, people especially whales will not allow that.
We will live and continue to prosper with the help of market adoption, bitcoin is blockchain because it was invented because of it, so it will live for long as long as blockchain is here.

The banks can adopt with blockchain but they all owe everything with bitcoin.
We can make it simple with this one.. .satoshi - bitcoin - blockchain, they all live as one.
I hope the government understands that, satoshi, blockchain, bitcoin are one, many concerns from the government due to the emergence of bitcoin, even so, the bitcoin community is too big to die, even bitcoin is referred to as digital gold. which today many people make as an investment tool


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: kaya11 on December 25, 2019, 11:24:01 AM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Sad to say this is what is happening, it is because people are greedy and they brought they capitalist minds down to crypto and infecting it, I hope Bitcoin still manage to overcome this struggle as I am still hoping that day would come. If not then lets move on to what is the next big coin who will succeed or maybe not.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: altcointalk14 on December 25, 2019, 11:52:54 AM
Bitcoin and blockchain both came together, will live and prosper together. While blockchain is getting acceptance in government corridors, there is a massive community supporting bitcoin and other cryptos. Even in this bearish market bitcoin market cap is 131 billion US dollar and some say btc game is over.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: ubercool on December 25, 2019, 12:15:02 PM
I understand your perspective but I don't understand on what logic you said that Bitcoin might be over. The technology of blockchain is already being implemented in many industries and Bitcoin is being used by the masses. It'll be there until people use it and I don't think it'll be over that soon


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Magkirap on December 25, 2019, 01:49:19 PM
I understand your perspective but I don't understand on what logic you said that Bitcoin might be over. The technology of blockchain is already being implemented in many industries and Bitcoin is being used by the masses. It'll be there until people use it and I don't think it'll be over that soon
Maybe he is talking about the remaining supply of bitcoin, when the last bitcoin is mined i think that is when "bitcoin is over" that he is talking about. Bitcoin may be nearly reaching its total supply but the fact that we are innovating and yes lots of companies are considering it in their next step i think they will come up with an idea on how will they make bitcoin become more useful for the public and they will not let bitcoin collapse or vanished.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: uray on December 25, 2019, 02:08:00 PM
Bitcoin and blockchain both came together, will live and prosper together. While blockchain is getting acceptance in government corridors, there is a massive community supporting bitcoin and other cryptos. Even in this bearish market bitcoin market cap is 131 billion US dollar and some say btc game is over.
You cannot expect the government to appreciate the decentralized currency, it all depends upon individual use case, be it as a storage of value or a currency that you are using or trading and the notion of bitcoin dying is just ludicrous as this is a new concept and it will take time to develop into the scaling of a traditional system and considering we have a 131 billion market in a short span shows the trust everyone has on the market.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Eclipse26 on December 25, 2019, 03:20:54 PM
Bitcoin and blockchain both came together, will live and prosper together. While blockchain is getting acceptance in government corridors, there is a massive community supporting bitcoin and other cryptos. Even in this bearish market bitcoin market cap is 131 billion US dollar and some say btc game is over.
Right now some government see them differently. Some government like the idea of blockchain technology yet they don't like cryptocurrency (decentralized). Not all government who likes blockchain also likes crypto. But that doesn't mean that crypto won't survive. We've already seen how cryptocurrency survived for the past decade so it can also survive even some government oppose to the idea of decentralized crypto.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: gantez on December 26, 2019, 01:07:30 PM
I understand your perspective but I don't understand on what logic you said that Bitcoin might be over. The technology of blockchain is already being implemented in many industries and Bitcoin is being used by the masses. It'll be there until people use it and I don't think it'll be over that soon

Exactly, bitcoin is more like what even made blockchain popular. That means, bitcoin is part of blockchain or a product that came out from blockchain and would not go down. It can only reduce in price and also increase because it is used as payment and financial transactions.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Reid on December 26, 2019, 02:19:12 PM
Just because it doesn't move much of what you are expecting doesn't mean it is dead.
That is the problem now with those who are speculating bitcoin.
They tend to get emotional just because the price doesn't fluctuate into how much they want it too.
It is not like that, or should be not like that.

A value of a thing appreciates when there is more usage. Are you being blinded by new crypto currency that are created?


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Gheka on December 26, 2019, 02:20:11 PM
Bitcoin and blockchain both came together, will live and prosper together. While blockchain is getting acceptance in government corridors, there is a massive community supporting bitcoin and other cryptos. Even in this bearish market bitcoin market cap is 131 billion US dollar and some say btc game is over.
Right now some government see them differently. Some government like the idea of blockchain technology yet they don't like cryptocurrency (decentralized). Not all government who likes blockchain also likes crypto. But that doesn't mean that crypto won't survive. We've already seen how cryptocurrency survived for the past decade so it can also survive even some government oppose to the idea of decentralized crypto.
Agree, governments seem to focus solely on blockchain technology when it increases transparency and improves government management systems while on the other hand, their interest in bitcoin and crypto is relative, mostly showing negative opinions about the existence of these products but despite these protests and drastic opposition, bitcoin and crypto can still live and thrive to this day. That shows that the government cannot decide the fate of bitcoin, bitcoin will never have an end unless we give up or the manipulation becomes too frightening but it seems difficult when adjustment and manipulation are always very reasonable


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Mahanton on December 26, 2019, 05:37:18 PM
Just because it doesn't move much of what you are expecting doesn't mean it is dead.
That is the problem now with those who are speculating bitcoin.
They tend to get emotional just because the price doesn't fluctuate into how much they want it too.
It is not like that, or should be not like that.

A value of a thing appreciates when there is more usage. Are you being blinded by new crypto currency that are created?
Possible!

Words like these are to those people who dont have much trust nor positive insights towards bitcoin and do keep telling that
bitcoin might be over? The n what coin they are trying to pertain into?


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Yatsan on December 26, 2019, 05:48:38 PM
I understand your perspective but I don't understand on what logic you said that Bitcoin might be over. The technology of blockchain is already being implemented in many industries and Bitcoin is being used by the masses. It'll be there until people use it and I don't think it'll be over that soon

Exactly, bitcoin is more like what even made blockchain popular. That means, bitcoin is part of blockchain or a product that came out from blockchain and would not go down. It can only reduce in price and also increase because it is used as payment and financial transactions.
I get your point that blockchain has been known because of the bitcoin's popularity but did not you think why people used the bitcoin back then? it is because of Blockchain technology that offers resistance to data to be modified and alter, secured in short term.So technically speaking Blockchain made itself popular using bitcoin and whom we will be thankful for? Obviously the person/s behind the codename Satoshi Nakamoto. Besides it is only the blockchain technology that the government wants, not the stuffs running above on it, so it is possible that bitcoin can die in not for now at least.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: agentx44 on December 26, 2019, 05:49:42 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance
Bitcoin is in a really bad shape for so long already but that doesn't necessarily mean that it would keep on going down till it hits the rock bottom. There's still a chance of survival for bitcoin and the probability of it making its way to the future is way bigger compared to other cryptocurrencies. Indeed blockchain will keep on even without bitcoin since the system is indeed useful and more convenient for some country but still, it would be better if bitcoin and blockchain will make it both in the future for more benefits and betterment of the world's economy.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Betwrong on December 28, 2019, 08:30:43 AM
Its a known fact that blockchain has been reputed to be an invention that cannot be relegated to he background and at the same time, there have been series of comments to claim that bitcoin would be relegated but one thing is sure while the existence of blockchain does not guarantee that bitcoin would continue to be relevant, its also does not mean the end of bitcoin because whether its is accepted or not, as far as blockchain is still being used, deployed or implemented, its subtle support for bitcoin and with that, bitcoin would continue to be relevant.
Definitely agree!
Even though cryptocurrency itself crashed never came back, blockchain will remain alive. It has a lot of purpose. You can use it in a company to store files and other stuff. Even you don't subscribe to any cryptocurrency, you can have access in blochchain. Just hire a programmer that knows how to create blockchain for the company and has an expertise in crypto as well.
But even it live for a long run, bitcoin will never crash down.

But the security of the Bitcoin blockchain is achieved by thousands of nodes validating the blocks. They, all together, generate such a hash power that it's virtually impossible for an attacker to provide a higher amount of computation. And all those miners participate in the game only for the block rewards. How can you create a secure blockchain without sufficient block rewards?


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on December 28, 2019, 08:54:53 PM
Too bad some people are already losing hope when the massive era is yet to begin.
The blockchain technology is an admirable technology that will effect the future technology in years too come. Fortunately, Bitcoin is part of it, its more like when we mention Blockchain, Bitcoin will be popped up. So I think the era of Bitcoin is yet to come.
Most people have the problem they only focus on the short term, it may seem as a bitcoin is not doing really well lately and that is true but when you look at the long term trajectory of the price you can clearly see that the trend is completely positive and the only thing that you need in order to get benefits out of it is to wait for long enough for the price to go up, because I see the adoption of bitcoin through the world to be almost inevitable taking into account how much better it is compared to all the other currencies in the world.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Best Dreams on December 28, 2019, 09:33:55 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Sad to say this is what is happening, it is because people are greedy and they brought they capitalist minds down to crypto and infecting it, I hope Bitcoin still manage to overcome this struggle as I am still hoping that day would come. If not then lets move on to what is the next big coin who will succeed or maybe not.
To be honest, until now I never saw any coin that got such a good position as bitcoin has. Bitcoin is the only coin that has the potential to increase a and it’s unbeatable. Yet I am holding and I feel good and secure about its growth only because of blockchain if blockchain was not I won’t be able to keep my investment safe from scammers so yeah blockchain will exist forever.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: FlightyPouch on December 28, 2019, 10:09:12 PM
Bitcoin is the only coin that has the potential to increase a and it’s unbeatable.

I understand that it is unbeatable since it is the first one to be made but bitcoin being the "only" coin that has a potentiao to increase? You're wrong. To be honest, there are a lot of better crypto currency than bitcoin in terms of its use, but since bitcoin is the first one, we will be respecting that and is supported by its massive community.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: jameshugo17 on December 28, 2019, 11:13:03 PM
Bitcoin never ends. There's a very strong community behind Bitcoin. Think of the first time Bitcoin was released. Those who used to have Bitcoin became very rich. Now there is a community that has the power of dollars. This community is protecting bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: microsurfer on December 29, 2019, 02:05:50 PM
blockchain is a great tech but a bit overvalued. For sure, it will be with us for a very long time in different sphres.
 But i hope that crypto is here to stay too


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Gotumoot on December 29, 2019, 03:36:18 PM
blockchain is a great tech but a bit overvalued. For sure, it will be with us for a very long time in different sphres.
 But i hope that crypto is here to stay too
Of course blockchain will stay for us and no one can't destroy this even bitcoin and all altcoin is dead.  And also crypto will here for us because this will be go in mainstream in the future especially bitcoin.  And we will see many small store and even big companies accepting this as a alternative payment method.  That automatically converted to fiat to avoid the volitile price 


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: fiulpro on December 29, 2019, 05:04:53 PM
Why do you think that the bitcoins might be over ?
The statement itself is very wrong , you should understand that , bitcoins is too deep rooted in the society that it's problem for the government itself , they won't be able to take it out that easily.
Also at the same time yes blockchain is a revolutionary technology and therefore it will stay in this world for days to come , in schools , banks , industries everywhere .


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Triffin on December 29, 2019, 06:59:04 PM
blockchain is a great tech but a bit overvalued. For sure, it will be with us for a very long time in different sphres.
 But i hope that crypto is here to stay too
For sure if there will be blockchain so there will be crypto coins as well because we know the basic reason behind invention of blockchain is the needs that was to store bitcoins and crypto coins so yeah blockchain will stay in this world and day by day its getting more importance and popularity so the same thing we expect from crypto coins like bitcoin and Ethereum.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: kapalmabur on December 30, 2019, 06:36:50 AM
blockchain is a great tech but a bit overvalued. For sure, it will be with us for a very long time in different sphres.
 But i hope that crypto is here to stay too
For sure if there will be blockchain so there will be crypto coins as well because we know the basic reason behind invention of blockchain is the needs that was to store bitcoins and crypto coins so yeah blockchain will stay in this world and day by day its getting more importance and popularity so the same thing we expect from crypto coins like bitcoin and Ethereum.
blockchain exists because of Bitcoin, and Bitcoin exists because of Blockchain, the two of them are interconnected,
and it's true they won't disappear from this world, Bitcoin will become one of the international currencies I'm sure of that


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: whyrqa on December 30, 2019, 10:28:32 AM
It seems to me that you can answer briefly to this question, if I perceive everything correctly, then from the very beginning you need to understand what blockchain is.  The fact is that in essence the blockchain is a way of organizing a database that allows you to correctly store information and coordinate different types of changes between independent parties that simultaneously adhere to the same rules and have essentially the same status.  Based on this, we can already assume that this technology can be applied in various spheres of human life, even without bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Betwrong on December 30, 2019, 12:28:21 PM
It seems to me that you can answer briefly to this question, if I perceive everything correctly, then from the very beginning you need to understand what blockchain is.  The fact is that in essence the blockchain is a way of organizing a database that allows you to correctly store information and coordinate different types of changes between independent parties that simultaneously adhere to the same rules and have essentially the same status.  Based on this, we can already assume that this technology can be applied in various spheres of human life, even without bitcoin.

I saw several similar answers in this thread, and was surprised by the lack of basic knowledge in this field. The thing is that "blockchain" without a cryptocurrency is just an improved database where you still should rely on some central institution regarding the fairness. To get a really fair ledger, independent from any authority(read, decentralized), and also a tamper-resistant one, you need a cryptocurrency(and Bitcoin is the best one in this regard) to provide an economic incentive to miners.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: SoeNan89 on December 30, 2019, 12:35:27 PM
blockchain exists because of Bitcoin, and Bitcoin exists because of Blockchain, the two of them are interconnected,
and it's true they won't disappear from this world, Bitcoin will become one of the international currencies I'm sure of that
No, both don't have to be related, because right now we can see that many countries adopt Blockchain technology but don't take Bitcoin, and it's okay. They just want to make Blockchain technology a technology that is able to facilitate tasks in government without taking Bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: crossabdd on December 30, 2019, 12:38:05 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

Well, Bitcoin has been rejected in big countries. only a small country wants to be equal to others who have accepted Bitcoin. while Blockchain, is currently growing very rapidly. became a mass adoption in many large countries. so that this looks separate. countries are preparing to make their currencies based on blockchain so that it can block bitcoin that has a decentralized system.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Sadlife on December 30, 2019, 01:01:15 PM
Bitcoin will continue to live on and we need people like you to promote pessimism and more negativity who spreads post like this because the more investors to give up and sell their BTC, the more cheaper BTC can get.
The thing is, as long as bitcoin is useful and can be used to buy products and pay for services as an P2P payment it will never go down.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Kimonoe on December 30, 2019, 01:36:44 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

Well, Bitcoin has been rejected in big countries. only a small country wants to be equal to others who have accepted Bitcoin. while Blockchain, is currently growing very rapidly. became a mass adoption in many large countries. so that this looks separate. countries are preparing to make their currencies based on blockchain so that it can block bitcoin that has a decentralized system.
bitcoin cannot live without a blockchain, whereas a blockchain can live without bitcoin, even though we know the two as one entity. but blockchain has many functions, not just for money transfers. therefore do not be surprised if the adoption of a blockchain mass is greater than bitcoin



Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: AbuBhakar on December 30, 2019, 02:05:44 PM
blockchain exists because of Bitcoin, and Bitcoin exists because of Blockchain, the two of them are interconnected,
and it's true they won't disappear from this world, Bitcoin will become one of the international currencies I'm sure of that
No, both don't have to be related, because right now we can see that many countries adopt Blockchain technology but don't take Bitcoin, and it's okay. They just want to make Blockchain technology a technology that is able to facilitate tasks in government without taking Bitcoin.
Blockchain have more chance to be use by governments who want to create their own token or do government projects to improve their economy as well their allocation of budget. Blockchain should be use by developers now for better performance of their project even they don't want to relate in crypto, but much better if they can accept crypto to gain adoption for cryptocurrency and for bet market prices.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: carlzec on December 30, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
Blockchain is a very important technology. But how familiar is the blockchain. Bitcoin is the biggest rekalm face of this market. Without Bitcoin, maybe he wouldn't know the blockchain. Blockchain can get a bitcoin one day.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: TIDOVEE on December 30, 2019, 06:47:13 PM
Definitely, block chain will remain even if bitcoin, altcoin stop existence. Block chain is the foundation on which crypto currency is laid, block chain can produce many other digital currency.the government can use block chain their currency.bitcoin is almost close to no value now but not at the detriment of block chain


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: HarmonyA on December 30, 2019, 08:38:25 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

Blockchain Technology cannot be demoted. Bitcoin helps to open novices to the disruptive nature of Blockchain. 
I think that we should have more cryptocurrency that will match the function of bitcoin, to enable us reduce the volatility of bitcoin by ensuring that other stakeholders needs are met.
Because it seem like there is a power tussle between the native of bitcoin and other world powers.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: supercanada1 on December 31, 2019, 05:39:49 PM
blockchain exists because of Bitcoin, and Bitcoin exists because of Blockchain, the two of them are interconnected,
and it's true they won't disappear from this world, Bitcoin will become one of the international currencies I'm sure of that
No, both don't have to be related, because right now we can see that many countries adopt Blockchain technology but don't take Bitcoin, and it's okay. They just want to make Blockchain technology a technology that is able to facilitate tasks in government without taking Bitcoin.
There is no doubt in this fact that blockchain technology has mesmerized the financial markets especially banks which are working day and night to adopt it for their welfare in the future. As far as the connection of bitcoin and blockchain technology is concerned, people came to know about blockchain technology through bitcoin and still common people associate its existence with bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on January 01, 2020, 03:23:02 AM
Blockchain is a part of the Bitcoin technology, and not the other way around. Blockchain will be in existence only if Bitcoin exists. A lot of people (including the governmental players) are trying to paint Blockchain as innovative technology and at the same time trying to whitewash Bitcoin as some illegal money payment system used by criminals. They need to understand that Blockchain is irreversibly connected to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: coin-investor on January 01, 2020, 05:04:22 AM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

Rebound it's too early to tell we, should not give up on Bitcoin and the market this early if you want to give up, then give up on your own, blockchain technology is really here to stay but Bitcoin being it's the first product, it's success is also the success of blockchain, the technology that created it, so it goes if we want this technology to succeed, then we better go all out for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Kyraishi on January 01, 2020, 07:26:49 AM
Everyone's been saying this since ages.

Yet, the dominant crypto in the market right now is still bitcoin nonetheless.

Perhaps blockchain technology will become mainstream in the form of a centralized cryptocoin or whatnot, but I find it difficult to believe that BTC will simply vanish.

It is likely that the two will coexist in unison. Centralized blockchains will simply not cater to the needs of people who are currently invested in decentralized cryptos.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: cotton ball on January 01, 2020, 09:33:48 AM
Everyone's been saying this since ages.

Yet, the dominant crypto in the market right now is still bitcoin nonetheless.

Perhaps blockchain technology will become mainstream in the form of a centralized cryptocoin or whatnot, but I find it difficult to believe that BTC will simply vanish.

It is likely that the two will coexist in unison. Centralized blockchains will simply not cater to the needs of people who are currently invested in decentralized cryptos.
When many people talking about blockchain they always have talk about bitcoin because every one do not know about what is blockchain and keep popular with bitcoin and altcoin, there are not space for blockchain without know more about bitcoin and altcoin, when bitcoin have on the top price many people will understand with bitcoin and altcoin so thy will know whit blockchain.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Shimmiry on January 01, 2020, 02:40:02 PM
blockchain exists because of Bitcoin, and Bitcoin exists because of Blockchain, the two of them are interconnected,
and it's true they won't disappear from this world, Bitcoin will become one of the international currencies I'm sure of that
No, both don't have to be related, because right now we can see that many countries adopt Blockchain technology but don't take Bitcoin, and it's okay. They just want to make Blockchain technology a technology that is able to facilitate tasks in government without taking Bitcoin.
Blockchain can literally survive and could still exist for some decade because of its usability and demand in the society especially for the 21st century's government. But bitcoin? I don't think it can make it through another decade if not for blockchain's support and back up. One of them are very dependent to the other but it does not apply for the both of them. Although blockchain's popularity is highly influenced and driven by bitcoin, it won't affect how blockchain works once bitcoin vanished from the mainstream. In other words, bitcoin is just like a feature to blockchain, it became somehow a part of it but it's still completely functioning without it.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: BChydro on January 01, 2020, 04:03:12 PM
Blockchain is a part of the Bitcoin technology, and not the other way around. Blockchain will be in existence only if Bitcoin exists. A lot of people (including the governmental players) are trying to paint Blockchain as innovative technology and at the same time trying to whitewash Bitcoin as some illegal money payment system used by criminals. They need to understand that Blockchain is irreversibly connected to Bitcoin.
The revolution of bitcoin is because Satoshi was able to develop Blockchain to aide the transaction when the past digital currencies in the past were struggling to come up with something that could stop the issue of double spending and when Satoshi released everything as an open source everyone has the freedom to take what they like and what to reject and if Satoshi copyrighted everything then he could have made billions just taking the fees, blockchain is not particularly connected to bitcoin simply because it is open source and anyone can use it separately.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on January 01, 2020, 07:03:06 PM
Why do you think that the bitcoins might be over ?
The statement itself is very wrong , you should understand that , bitcoins is too deep rooted in the society that it's problem for the government itself , they won't be able to take it out that easily.
Also at the same time yes blockchain is a revolutionary technology and therefore it will stay in this world for days to come , in schools , banks , industries everywhere .
All the arguments people have about why bitcoin is not going to survive always have to do with the price, they do not take a look at the technology and how being your own bank and own a currency that no government can crash is a huge advantage, they are only seeing the world as it is now and not as it will be, it is impossible the current economic system being implemented all over the world is going to last forever, at some point it will fail, and while bitcoin may not last forever either one thing is for sure, it will last a lot more than the system we currently have.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: mr.relax on January 01, 2020, 07:15:59 PM
Actually almost all altcoins are dead. Almost only BTC doubled its price 2019.
Its very alive and far from over.
Most blockchain experiments fueled by token, are dead too, as blockchain is not the best solution for every database-usecase.
Yes, BTC will not live forever. But maybe it will live longer than many people think.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Polo7 on January 01, 2020, 08:51:17 PM
Bitcoin Wake up Only If People Will need btc Badly!
But They Don't so.... 2020 Will be slow slow death for btc then.....


But Wait minute everytime When u sell someone always Will buy it from You!


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Natalim on January 01, 2020, 08:56:59 PM
Yes it could happen but as long as crypto is here to stay, bitcoin will never die, maybe it will loss the lead but it will never die.

Bitcoin is decentralized and there's no better blockchain here but to be being decentralized as this gives real freedom to people like us.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Polo7 on January 01, 2020, 09:06:48 PM
If btc dies then what?  All Ur btc Will disapere in wallet?

Unlikely this rather is btc price to fall very down


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: breathlessz on January 02, 2020, 03:56:11 AM
While I agree that Bitcoin may not be the best or the perfect cryptocurrency, but it may be the first, the most widely recognised and, in my opinion, the most used, it can last for a generation and more. Although we can't really tell exactly how things are going to happen in the future, of course, but I have high hopes on Bitcoin more than any other cryptocurrency on the market. Competitors will always be there, and there are signs that we have a safe and competitive environment, something we should be very proud of. Now, with the technology of blockchain, I am sure that it will be embraced by more and more companies and even nations, and that is good. Adoption in the block, however
right, no one knows the future of bitcoin, but indeed the blockchain will be more easily adopted by many countries, with a decentralized system that can ease human work. I think the blockchain will still exist and there are no problems, and so will Bitcoin, after many countries evaluate dollars that are no longer relevant



Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: AjithBtc on January 02, 2020, 06:35:17 AM
Yes it could happen but as long as crypto is here to stay, bitcoin will never die, maybe it will loss the lead but it will never die.

Bitcoin is decentralized and there's no better blockchain here but to be being decentralized as this gives real freedom to people like us.
Bitcoin will never die for any reason. Maybe if governments unite together it might lead to decrease in the usage of bitcoin. This might cause bitcoin to loss its importance, but bitcoin won't die for any reason. With every passing year the growth of bitcoin is found to be progressing forward. Blockchain technology usage too keeps counting, and this assures growth of bitcoin to happen along with the blockchain technology.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on January 02, 2020, 07:14:49 AM
Blockchain is a part of the Bitcoin technology, and not the other way around. Blockchain will be in existence only if Bitcoin exists. A lot of people (including the governmental players) are trying to paint Blockchain as innovative technology and at the same time trying to whitewash Bitcoin as some illegal money payment system used by criminals. They need to understand that Blockchain is irreversibly connected to Bitcoin.

Blockchain can be modified as much as you like, it's don't need Bitcoin to build blockchain.
The government has been researching on blockchain technology, it's highly chance that they will create country coin that is centralized with cryptocurrency ecosystem and want to ban other cryptocurrency that already exists, such as China plans recently.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: gunungkembar on January 02, 2020, 07:47:30 AM
it is true because if everyone uses bitcoin then it will not be able to because the supply of bitcoin is very limited it will be easy to manipulate prices and certainly will harm many people, you better use blockchain technology but don't use bitcoin which is very volatile.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Wintersoldier on January 02, 2020, 08:11:03 AM
it is true because if everyone uses bitcoin then it will not be able to because the supply of bitcoin is very limited it will be easy to manipulate prices and certainly will harm many people, you better use blockchain technology but don't use bitcoin which is very volatile.

Do we think that bitcoin will be easily manipulated? Or is it better to think that because of the limited supply of bitcoin, it is the reason that will drive the bitcoin to increase its market price in the future. Although, there are many cryptocurrency that has potential to be used in daily transactions, bitcoin is the best and people would probably thanking bitcoin why we are now in a new phase of economic development in currency and financial stability.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: kro55 on January 02, 2020, 04:48:59 PM
We can say blockchain is like a family head that has many childs among them the most prominent and capable child is bitcoin. The fame blockchain enjoying right now is due to bitcoin. Just like decentralized bitcoin is not acceptable to government and other bodies. Decentralized blockchain is also not acceptable to governments bodies but a centralized one aka private blockchain.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: jameshugo17 on January 02, 2020, 09:55:35 PM
Blockchain is an advanced technology. The face of this technology is bitcoin. Without Bitcoin, the blockchain wouldn't be so famous. I think bitcoin proved itself. This market is the kingdom of bitcoin. Blockchain is used in which area so much.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: TrevorS on January 03, 2020, 11:35:59 PM
Bitcoin is the personification of the blockchain, at least at the current stage. Volatility, of course, greatly spoils the reputation of cryptocurrencies, but it is also the reason for the opening of vast opportunities for earning impossible in other areas of this type. Bitcoin is alive thanks to the blockchain, and will live thanks to it.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: btccashacc on January 03, 2020, 11:57:57 PM
Blockchain is a powerful technology where there are many features that can still be developed. Banking and insurance are some of the ones who will develop this technology. But in my opinion bitcoin won't die either, it will still be there side by side with the development of the blockchain. But it is true that people are now more interested in the blockchain, I hope people can solve more problems with this technology.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: jjigoku on January 04, 2020, 01:10:14 AM
Blockchain is a powerful technology where there are many features that can still be developed. Banking and insurance are some of the ones who will develop this technology. But in my opinion bitcoin won't die either, it will still be there side by side with the development of the blockchain. But it is true that people are now more interested in the blockchain, I hope people can solve more problems with this technology.

These two technologies will be taken more separated in nearest future I believe.
Unfortunately cryptocurrencies (and bitcoin) are partly about gambling and illegal activities so that's what media are talking about.
Blockchain on the other hand is just a technology to solve problems.

However after that Venezuela situation bitcoin could gain respect in some way


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Betwrong on January 04, 2020, 10:15:46 AM
Bitcoin is the personification of the blockchain, at least at the current stage. Volatility, of course, greatly spoils the reputation of cryptocurrencies, but it is also the reason for the opening of vast opportunities for earning impossible in other areas of this type. Bitcoin is alive thanks to the blockchain, and will live thanks to it.


And the vice versa. I mean, Bitcoin's blockchain is the most secure one around, right? If people need to use a secure blockchain for a serious business, they can pay higher transaction fees, and wait a bit more for the confirmation than on other blockchains, but, at the same time, they can be sure that they are using the most tamper-proof one, and that's what is more important for them than saving 50 cents or waiting 10-15 minutes less for confirmation.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Williams_Leo on January 04, 2020, 01:47:52 PM
Blockchain is a powerful technology where there are many features that can still be developed. Banking and insurance are some of the ones who will develop this technology. But in my opinion bitcoin won't die either, it will still be there side by side with the development of the blockchain. But it is true that people are now more interested in the blockchain, I hope people can solve more problems with this technology.
I think people's attention is focused on bitcoin more, instead of focusing on blockchain technology as you say because blockchain technology can have many unique things but the technology market never lacks similar technologies, so few people care about blockchain. However, based on blockchain technology, Bitcoin becomes a new and extremely special product, the level of risk and profit then its stimulation in an area is very clear, if considered in the long run, bitcoin will probably live better than blockchain when too few cryptocurrencies can replace it


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on January 04, 2020, 01:53:20 PM
How can you be sure bitcoin will never die? Have you ever thought of increasing its value naturally? never ! Prior to 2015 investors only invested in bitcoin and other alts with the aim of developing blockchain technology. But now the market has been alienated by manipulators and has made Bitcoin's price soar even though its technology has not improved. Even now bitcoin transfers are very long and costly, they are not as good as they used to be. its value will soon be discovered and people have no reason to keep it.
Funny because currently the fee for each bitcoin transaction is as low as 10 sat/byte and that's significantly lower than before although if converted to dollar it's not as cheap as it's back then but that's a big improvement considering back in 2017 at the peak ATH the fee alone could be $20 for each transaction. The length of block confirmation also seems a lot normal and better than before and whenever there's still hash power left bitcoin won't die.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Negotiation on January 04, 2020, 02:06:38 PM
It is difficult to say which will survive and which will not depend on the economy of the country But I think blockchain is a much more reliable blockchain than Bitcoin which allows us to easily collect and coordinate information Bitcoin will usually survive on its price The strategy of data collection is always sustainable.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Betwrong on January 05, 2020, 11:39:40 AM
How can you be sure bitcoin will never die? Have you ever thought of increasing its value naturally? never ! Prior to 2015 investors only invested in bitcoin and other alts with the aim of developing blockchain technology. But now the market has been alienated by manipulators and has made Bitcoin's price soar even though its technology has not improved. Even now bitcoin transfers are very long and costly, they are not as good as they used to be. its value will soon be discovered and people have no reason to keep it.
Funny because currently the fee for each bitcoin transaction is as low as 10 sat/byte and that's significantly lower than before although if converted to dollar it's not as cheap as it's back then but that's a big improvement considering back in 2017 at the peak ATH the fee alone could be $20 for each transaction. The length of block confirmation also seems a lot normal and better than before and whenever there's still hash power left bitcoin won't die.

Right now you can pay 4 satoshis/byte for a fast transaction, and although BTC price is relatively high, it is still only $0.06 for the median transaction size of 202 bytes. And, yes, it's funny that some people are still complaining about "high fees and low speed". Maybe they don't use BTC, and that's why they are not aware of the current situation. Bitcoin is very far from dying, especially today.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: redsun114 on January 05, 2020, 03:33:19 PM
Yeah, without bitcoin blockchain would have never seen the attention it got, we have blockchain thanks to bitcoin and bitcoin thanks to blockchain. People saw what bitcoin is capable of and how blockchain could be used for many other things and succeed thanks to bitcoin, if bitcoin was unsuccessful and there was a lot of bugs and abuses and problems (I can only think of double spending) then we wouldn't have all this attention towards blockchain neither.

There has been attempts of bitcoin-like things before as well and they all failed because they didn't had the blockchain technology behind it but now that we do have blockchain backing bitcoin and bitcoin showing how awesome it can be, they are both getting amazing interest from all sectors for being together, you can't praise one and not like the other.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on January 05, 2020, 07:51:29 PM
Actually almost all altcoins are dead. Almost only BTC doubled its price 2019.
Its very alive and far from over.
Most blockchain experiments fueled by token, are dead too, as blockchain is not the best solution for every database-usecase.
Yes, BTC will not live forever. But maybe it will live longer than many people think.
And that is the thing, everyone is saying that bitcoin is over and it still doubled its price during the previous year, how negative people have to be to think bitcoin is disappearing because it 'only' gave you 100% in profits, if this was the stock market everyone will be talking about this new stock that is making their investors rich but since this is bitcoin no one misses the opportunity to say bad things about bitcoin even if it is clear it is not going anywhere.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Mihaylovic on January 06, 2020, 09:20:01 AM
bitcoin can be over. its correct. because there may be better blockchain technologies developped. (Even there is at the moment in my opinion). With bigger network sizes and much better transaction speeds. The better ones will take the flag from bitcoin and go on.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: aBTCd on January 06, 2020, 11:45:49 AM
Despite decreasing in value, BTC is far from getting over. The technology behind it is evolving in "silent", transaction fees are getting lower, speed is much faster. However, due to broader usage of blockchain technology, and because of it's nature, BC might seem more popular right now. Banks, governments, corporations are implementing BC in its processes and for that, they don't specifically need BTC. But BTC supply is limited, there is demand and at least in a future might be a collectible thing to have (if not anything else but I highly doubt about that). But I am sure it will be more than that.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: killerfrost on January 06, 2020, 11:55:04 AM
Blockchain will continue to evolve and evolve continuously. But if Bitcoin dies, I think this market will die soon, because Bitcoin affects the whole market. I don't want this scenario to happen because it's really bad, bitcoin will still grow and its price will increase incessantly. In the future Bitcoin will be a huge digital asset that no altcoin can beat or replace.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Betwrong on January 06, 2020, 01:08:40 PM
bitcoin can be over. its correct. because there may be better blockchain technologies developped. (Even there is at the moment in my opinion). With bigger network sizes and much better transaction speeds. The better ones will take the flag from bitcoin and go on.

Better transaction speed doesn't mean better blockchain. Hundreds of faster blockchains with much cheaper transaction fees have been around for years, and people haven't switched to them for a reason. Bitcoin's Blockchain is the most secure and the most decentralized one, and people value those characteristics above all others, including scalability. And, btw, the solution to the scalability problem for Bitcoin is on its way.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: wxxyrqa on January 06, 2020, 01:50:44 PM
The fact is that today you can look at cryptocurrency and the blockchain separately, because even the banking system and other companies are introducing blockchain technology today, where they gradually learn to use this technology for their own benefit.  But at the same time, there is no talk of any use of cryptocurrency.  Based on this, such a situation already suggests that the blockchain can fully exist without cryptocurrency.  In addition, I would like to bring some clarity to the situation with the problems that appear in cryptocurrencies due to state policy.  First of all, it is necessary to consider the fact that states want to maintain a monopoly on increasing the amount of money, which allows them to carry out certain manipulations and scams, which could not be significant when using cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: carlzec on January 06, 2020, 11:20:18 PM
Sounds funny. However, blockchain cannot live without bitcoin. Where is Blockchain used? So for what purpose they use it. Apart from bitcoin, the blockchainde is worthwhile. Blockchain's most important product is bitcoin. Bitcoin is now very popular.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: SquallLeonhart on January 07, 2020, 01:30:41 PM
I don’t really know what’s wrong with some and it really annoys me a lot ::). Bitcoin will be going up and nobody will complain that the increase is too much and that the profit they are making is much and they don’t deserve it, but when there is a little decrease, that’s it, they will all start saying that Bitcoin is dead and that it is over. This kind of thing really piss me off.

There is nothing like Bitcoin being over, BTC is never going to die, if anyone should say that then they are just saying trash. Bitcoin has no Central control and it can be controlled by everyone, you only have control over coins. Even if Bitcoin is worth $0.01 today, as long as you can still use it for transaction then it’s not dead.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Sanugarid on January 08, 2020, 08:17:26 AM
Its a known fact that blockchain has been reputed to be an invention that cannot be relegated to he background and at the same time, there have been series of comments to claim that bitcoin would be relegated but one thing is sure while the existence of blockchain does not guarantee that bitcoin would continue to be relevant, its also does not mean the end of bitcoin because whether its is accepted or not, as far as blockchain is still being used, deployed or implemented, its subtle support for bitcoin and with that, bitcoin would continue to be relevant.
Bitcoin and blockchain is connected to each other and as far as i know, if bitcoin is over, what is the purpose of blockchain in our society? it will standalone?As you said that it is a big fact that blockchain technology is am invention to our society that might help many people and it gives people an opportunities to earn some income out of it. Without one of this, there is a possibility to come up with a problem because it interconnected to each other.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: pikkie on January 08, 2020, 08:28:54 AM
Sounds funny. However, blockchain cannot live without bitcoin. Where is Blockchain used? So for what purpose they use it. Apart from bitcoin, the blockchainde is worthwhile. Blockchain's most important product is bitcoin. Bitcoin is now very popular.
what I know is the blockchain technology can be used without having to use bitcoin so I think what the OP is saying can happen because bitcoin is not too good if used by many people there will be price manipulation that can harm some people, so it's better to just use the technology.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Natalim on January 08, 2020, 08:51:00 AM
Sounds funny. However, blockchain cannot live without bitcoin. Where is Blockchain used? So for what purpose they use it. Apart from bitcoin, the blockchainde is worthwhile. Blockchain's most important product is bitcoin. Bitcoin is now very popular.
what I know is the blockchain technology can be used without having to use bitcoin so I think what the OP is saying can happen because bitcoin is not too good if used by many people there will be price manipulation that can harm some people, so it's better to just use the technology.
That would be a problem too because majority of people when using bitcoin are just using for daily transaction and it is not good at the current situation. However, there's what we called Lightning network, this would help solve that problem and hopefully more company will be using that soon in the future.

We need to peg our stable coin to bitcoin as I don't trust fiat, when a countries economy is down, it would affect our money.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on January 09, 2020, 07:39:08 PM
bitcoin can be over. its correct. because there may be better blockchain technologies developped. (Even there is at the moment in my opinion). With bigger network sizes and much better transaction speeds. The better ones will take the flag from bitcoin and go on.
The biggest problem for all of those coins that claim to be better is how are they going to convince people to adopt them and use them? Why I am going to exchange my bitcoin in which the whole world seems to agree they have some value for a bunch of coins that only a handful of people believe they have value and most of those people have an interest in saying so because they are holding a lot of it or they were the ones to develop the coin?


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: mr.relax on January 09, 2020, 07:59:29 PM
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bitcoin might be over
Are u crazy? Open your eyes. Bitcoin is well and alive.
And its value rises.
Bitcoin is more than blockchaintechnology.
Its also the  realised revolutionary idea of a trustless money that is not issued by goverment.
Believe in math, no need to trust nations or companies or individuals.
Even if one day, far in future, when Bitcoin dies, this idea will not die.
There will probably only a better but still decentralised coin be more used.
A better trustless moneycoin does not necessary need blockchain. There are other technologies thinkable.
As far as i understand, IOTA goes in that direction-but up to date iota is NOT decentralised..


Centralised Coins are a fake imitation of Bitcoin.
If its Libra , BinanceCoin(BNB) or government issued "cryptocurrencies". All Fake. Its NOT a trustless decentralised money!



Majority of Altcoins are over.
Majority of token that uses smartcontracts and an undelaying blockchain (g.e. ICO-token) are over.
Almost all altcoins lost extreme in value.
If you dont believe, just check deadcoins.com (lists 1839 dead coins, but there are more...)

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but blockchain will live
As long as Btc lives, blockchain lives, thats obvious.
With Blockchain you can make much more than only payments.
So yes, blockchain technology will probably live as long as humans will exist( and preserve more than stoneage technology).

So to me this whole thread does not make sense.
Its subject is not a question but a wrong statement.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: sana54210 on January 10, 2020, 06:55:39 AM
It is no longer a new thing, everyone knows already that Blockchain is the main thing, though I don’t really think that Bitcoin will come to an end, maybe other cryptocurrencies would but as for bitcoin it’s going to be different because it’s going to survive. Blockchain is really important, there is still a lot of areas to be explored when it comes to Blockchain.

It is believed that Blockchain cannot only be used for transaction but for other purposes as well, like voting, monitoring supply chains, digital ID, copyright protection, and a lot more. A lot of companies are starting to adopt blockchain, and very soon Government will start adopting it as well.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: kapalmabur on January 11, 2020, 08:56:37 AM
Sounds funny. However, blockchain cannot live without bitcoin. Where is Blockchain used? So for what purpose they use it. Apart from bitcoin, the blockchainde is worthwhile. Blockchain's most important product is bitcoin. Bitcoin is now very popular.
Blockchain is technology, and Bitcoin is the implementation, it is only natural that Bitcoin is dead, the technology used is still there, anything can happen, risk is the key


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Forbiddenone on January 11, 2020, 11:46:20 AM
Bitcoin is going no where , something that is primarily never go out of fashion as in future we will see good altcoin which is better than btc in every aspect but still btc will not go out. As for Blockchain it is revolutionary technology and it will keep on improving in future so its growth is endless.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Betwrong on January 11, 2020, 12:26:25 PM
Bitcoin is going no where , something that is primarily never go out of fashion as in future we will see good altcoin which is better than btc in every aspect but still btc will not go out. As for Blockchain it is revolutionary technology and it will keep on improving in future so its growth is endless.

That's what is really important. Bitcoin isn't a stagnant entity, it keeps improving all the time, because a great team of developers is behind it. How can we say that something is "might be over" when it hasn't reached its full potential yet? And I agree on the fashion part. Only I think there is a reason for that, which is much stronger than simply BTC to be a "fashion thing". It can appear to us that there is a "good altcoin which is better than btc in every aspect", but it is very likely that time will prove we were wrong.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: huige007 on January 11, 2020, 05:31:52 PM
It is no longer a new thing, everyone knows already that Blockchain is the main thing, though I don’t really think that Bitcoin will come to an end, maybe other cryptocurrencies would but as for bitcoin it’s going to be different because it’s going to survive. Blockchain is really important, there is still a lot of areas to be explored when it comes to Blockchain.

It is believed that Blockchain cannot only be used for transaction but for other purposes as well, like voting, monitoring supply chains, digital ID, copyright protection, and a lot more. A lot of companies are starting to adopt blockchain, and very soon Government will start adopting it as well.
These areas are great if explored, in this way blockchain technology would be more acceptable by people. There is nothing surprising that big organizations are already much into blockchain such as Facebook and that is why it is bringing up its own coin in this year which clearly is a sign that crypto is new investment for tech companies. In this decade, crypto will be almost used by every country.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Kevondo on January 12, 2020, 02:45:18 PM
It is no longer a new thing, everyone knows already that Blockchain is the main thing, though I don’t really think that Bitcoin will come to an end, maybe other cryptocurrencies would but as for bitcoin it’s going to be different because it’s going to survive. Blockchain is really important, there is still a lot of areas to be explored when it comes to Blockchain.

It is believed that Blockchain cannot only be used for transaction but for other purposes as well, like voting, monitoring supply chains, digital ID, copyright protection, and a lot more. A lot of companies are starting to adopt blockchain, and very soon Government will start adopting it as well.
These areas are great if explored, in this way blockchain technology would be more acceptable by people. There is nothing surprising that big organizations are already much into blockchain such as Facebook and that is why it is bringing up its own coin in this year which clearly is a sign that crypto is new investment for tech companies. In this decade, crypto will be almost used by every country.
If facebook is going to launch its own crypto currency then of course this technology i.e. blockchain is going to reach masses since facebook now owns instagram and whatsapp as well. Countless people will enter crypto world after this exposure and that would eventually make crypto currencies common around the world. This is nothing wrong prediction that within decade, crypto will be used everywhere.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: fortunecrypto on January 12, 2020, 03:20:14 PM
bitcoin can be over. its correct. because there may be better blockchain technologies developped. (Even there is at the moment in my opinion). With bigger network sizes and much better transaction speeds. The better ones will take the flag from bitcoin and go on.

So far nothing is coming to replace Bitcoin, all we have here are forks and clones but still they are not even a threat to Bitcoin standing and supremacy, and there are no new projects that can challenge Bitcoin dominance and supremacy in the market, they are just threat nothing more.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: meliodas on January 12, 2020, 03:21:02 PM
A lot of people think that bitcoin is the heart of the cryptocurrency but they didn't realize that blockchain is the true useful part of the cryptocurrency. I agree that bitcoin might be over but the technology from bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will continue to exist in this world because the huge companies and the other big organizations will surely utilize it.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: andriarto on January 12, 2020, 03:47:55 PM
bitcoin can be over. its correct. because there may be better blockchain technologies developped. (Even there is at the moment in my opinion). With bigger network sizes and much better transaction speeds. The better ones will take the flag from bitcoin and go on.

So far nothing is coming to replace Bitcoin, all we have here are forks and clones but still they are not even a threat to Bitcoin standing and supremacy, and there are no new projects that can challenge Bitcoin dominance and supremacy in the market, they are just threat nothing more.
I think it's still hard to drop Bitcoin, because there are still many investors who believe in it. indeed the blockchain can stand alone without bitcoin, but the ease of bitcoin as a global currency must be taken into account given the simpler payments between countries



Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Faxmate on January 12, 2020, 04:12:58 PM
A lot of people think that bitcoin is the heart of the cryptocurrency but they didn't realize that blockchain is the true useful part of the cryptocurrency. I agree that bitcoin might be over but the technology from bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will continue to exist in this world because the huge companies and the other big organizations will surely utilize it.


yes you are right the blockchain is the core technology of the digital market and nobody could deny of it, but i think bitcoin is also something that is valuable and it is very difficult to say that bitcoin will over might some day because the strength of bitcoin is enough to survive up to the end, bitcoin is the oldest of all so the new crypto will take much time to be able to known by everybody.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: hahay on January 12, 2020, 10:55:23 PM
A lot of people think that bitcoin is the heart of the cryptocurrency but they didn't realize that blockchain is the true useful part of the cryptocurrency. I agree that bitcoin might be over but the technology from bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies will continue to exist in this world because the huge companies and the other big organizations will surely utilize it.


yes you are right the blockchain is the core technology of the digital market and nobody could deny of it, but i think bitcoin is also something that is valuable and it is very difficult to say that bitcoin will over might some day because the strength of bitcoin is enough to survive up to the end, bitcoin is the oldest of all so the new crypto will take much time to be able to known by everybody.
The point is bitcoin and blockchain will last for a longer time, bitcoin is still getting an increase in demand that is ongoing and that is also the power for bitcoin to survive, when bitcoin already has high strength from various elements then of course bitcoin will not end easily.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on January 14, 2020, 07:41:50 PM
It is no longer a new thing, everyone knows already that Blockchain is the main thing, though I don’t really think that Bitcoin will come to an end, maybe other cryptocurrencies would but as for bitcoin it’s going to be different because it’s going to survive. Blockchain is really important, there is still a lot of areas to be explored when it comes to Blockchain.

It is believed that Blockchain cannot only be used for transaction but for other purposes as well, like voting, monitoring supply chains, digital ID, copyright protection, and a lot more. A lot of companies are starting to adopt blockchain, and very soon Government will start adopting it as well.
Being a currency is just the first use case of the blockchain and so far it seems it is the one in which it performs the best but there are merits in looking if it can be used effectively for other purposes as well, and that is why we have so many altcoins but unfortunately many of those efforts have been done by developers that do not really know what they are doing so we still do not have a good idea of what other applications the blockchain may have in the future in which it could perform effectively.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: slapper on January 15, 2020, 04:59:25 AM
bitcoin can be over. its correct. because there may be better blockchain technologies developped. (Even there is at the moment in my opinion). With bigger network sizes and much better transaction speeds. The better ones will take the flag from bitcoin and go on.

So far nothing is coming to replace Bitcoin, all we have here are forks and clones but still they are not even a threat to Bitcoin standing and supremacy, and there are no new projects that can challenge Bitcoin dominance and supremacy in the market, they are just threat nothing more.
The cryptocurrency is only more than 10 years old. People are still developing new technologies for bitcoin as well as the others. Bitcoin, in my opinion, will become some sort of assets such as gold, silver, etc. Other cryptos will replace bitcoin and become new era of electronic cash. They will provide us not only new tech but also a lot of advantages which we do not see before. So, if you want to have money, just hold bitcoin. If you want to become a part of this new tech, learn the blockchain


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: sukmo on January 15, 2020, 02:14:27 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

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And just in case, the first document
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After ten years and we still see people think Bitcoin will be over, I don't know how they are analyzing the situation I know OP is a newbie, but he should do a research and check if Bitcoin is really over, I hate it when people posted that Bitcoin has major flaws then go on to post a new project or coin, just promote your coin and don't create FUDS about Bitcoin.
Yes right your opinion, I also very much agree with you because I still hope that Bitcoin can be a success like in 2017 yesterday.
And I still hope that investing with Bitcoins is becoming one of the most promising ways of investing in the future.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Murat on January 16, 2020, 12:35:24 PM
It's really a basic thing that Blockchain has been renowned as one of the most crucial inventions in the last decade but without Bitcoin, you can't amaze this system, I don't agree to this Bitcoin would be vanished, I hope both blockchain and Bitcoin will sustain for another decade because people are starting to realize that blockchain will be the main system of the monetary world and cryptocurrency also getting accepted around the world, for me, both are essential to this platform, I do believe that Bitcoin will get more accepted in the coming days and it will sustain for a long time for sure.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: moviebuff777 on January 16, 2020, 04:12:43 PM
Bitcoin has been in a bear market but that doesn’t mean it’s dead. It goes through cycles and is now beginning the next bull cycle. The halving will be what makes it go to the next level in price.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: wozzek23 on January 17, 2020, 02:02:05 PM
I don’t know if Bitcoin will be over someday, but if someone should walk up to me and say it will be over, I will just tell them that it’s a lie. Making use of Bitcoin is by choice and even if you stop to use it, others will continue using it and if the price should drop to $0.01 Bitcoin will still be there and people will be making use of it.

There is no control unit that you can capture and shut down Bitcoin entirely, there is nothing like that, it’s not like other coins that are centralized. Let’s take Libra for an example – if Facebook should create Libra, they can decide to shut it down any day and make it disappear because they are the ones in control, but there is nothing like that for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Betwrong on January 18, 2020, 02:16:50 PM
I don’t know if Bitcoin will be over someday, but if someone should walk up to me and say it will be over, I will just tell them that it’s a lie. Making use of Bitcoin is by choice and even if you stop to use it, others will continue using it and if the price should drop to $0.01 Bitcoin will still be there and people will be making use of it.
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I don't think so. If Bitcoin dropped to $0.01, it would be unprofitable to mine, even if only 10 miners remained. But BTC is so good, among other things, is because there are dozens of thousands of miners around the world supporting its blockchain. So, if you assume that BTC is here to stay, you should also know that it's price can't drop that low.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Maslate on January 18, 2020, 04:41:08 PM
Bitcoin has been in a bear market but that doesn’t mean it’s dead. It goes through cycles and is now beginning the next bull cycle. The halving will be what makes it go to the next level in price.
Halving will definitely bring another good price increase in the next months. So far, there are no other coins that are good as bitcoin so i believe that bitcoin will still live longer together with blockchain technology.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Webetcoins on January 18, 2020, 05:36:05 PM
I don’t know if Bitcoin will be over someday, but if someone should walk up to me and say it will be over, I will just tell them that it’s a lie. Making use of Bitcoin is by choice and even if you stop to use it, others will continue using it and if the price should drop to $0.01 Bitcoin will still be there and people will be making use of it.
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I don't think so. If Bitcoin dropped to $0.01, it would be unprofitable to mine, even if only 10 miners remained. But BTC is so good, among other things, is because there are dozens of thousands of miners around the world supporting its blockchain. So, if you assume that BTC is here to stay, you should also know that it's price can't drop that low.
Currently, Bitcoin is flying very high in the crypto market with $9,000. The trend it has setup in the past year and by looking at its all previous progress I can say this that it will never drop below $6,000. It is very certain that Blockchain will live, and as bitcoins are the inventions of Blockchain it will also live. When more and more transactions will be added in Blockchain the price of Bitcoin will also rise.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: universe_ on January 19, 2020, 12:07:36 AM
Sure, while blockchain technology supports the growth of bitcoin and other alts, they are two aspects that are completely different. Blockchain technology can be used to record on the blockchain by any kind of person, Bitcoin is just one application on it. So blockchain technology would definitely flourish our economy, but we're not sure about Crypto. Nonetheless, I always hope that blockchain technology will be widely used in many countries one day, it will be an opportunity for sales companies in many countries to develop strongly.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: coin_gambler on January 19, 2020, 12:26:46 AM
While I agree that Bitcoin may not be the best or the perfect cryptocurrency, but it may be the first, the most widely recognised and, in my opinion, the most used, it can last for a generation and more. Although we can't really tell exactly how things are going to happen in the future, of course, but I have high hopes on Bitcoin more than any other cryptocurrency on the market. Competitors will always be there, and there are signs that we have a safe and competitive environment, something we should be very proud of. Now, with the technology of blockchain, I am sure that it will be embraced by more and more companies and even nations, and that is good. Adoption in the block, however


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Xxmodded on January 19, 2020, 03:54:43 AM
While I agree that Bitcoin may not be the best or the perfect cryptocurrency, but it may be the first, the most widely recognised and, in my opinion, the most used, it can last for a generation and more. Although we can't really tell exactly how things are going to happen in the future, of course, but I have high hopes on Bitcoin more than any other cryptocurrency on the market. Competitors will always be there, and there are signs that we have a safe and competitive environment, something we should be very proud of. Now, with the technology of blockchain, I am sure that it will be embraced by more and more companies and even nations, and that is good. Adoption in the block, however

Bitcoin have try to upgrade perfect with update many feature how to make bitcoin looks profitable and keep with many side to be partner of bitcoin, now bitcoin have brave for promoting as good digital payment currency at the future with higher price, get positive way for bitcoin have solution as digital currency payment and giving benefit.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: meliodas on January 19, 2020, 05:09:06 AM
While I agree that Bitcoin may not be the best or the perfect cryptocurrency, but it may be the first, the most widely recognised and, in my opinion, the most used, it can last for a generation and more. Although we can't really tell exactly how things are going to happen in the future, of course, but I have high hopes on Bitcoin more than any other cryptocurrency on the market. Competitors will always be there, and there are signs that we have a safe and competitive environment, something we should be very proud of. Now, with the technology of blockchain, I am sure that it will be embraced by more and more companies and even nations, and that is good. Adoption in the block, however

Bitcoin have try to upgrade perfect with update many feature how to make bitcoin looks profitable and keep with many side to be partner of bitcoin, now bitcoin have brave for promoting as good digital payment currency at the future with higher price, get positive way for bitcoin have solution as digital currency payment and giving benefit.
Bitcoin is only good for digital payment if you will be paying an expensive item or service but if you will use bitcoin on normal transactions then it is not a good idea because you will just lose your money because the transaction fee will eat your money slowly. Digital payments should be focused to stable coins and not on volatile digital currencies like bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: pacman7331 on January 19, 2020, 06:07:30 AM
So, by seeing the price dump you are feeling Bitcoin might be over? Bitcoin price was nothing, we the people give it a great value, sometimes this value goes down and sometimes it goes higher! By looking at the current price, do you think the same that BTC can be over? I don't think so. Blockchain technology and Bitcoin both will stay strong forever and it will be ended when the world ends! Because nothing can live forever!


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: chip1994 on January 19, 2020, 07:58:17 AM
I think both are important and sometimes blockchain will never be used, but bitcoin will always exist. why do I say that? because now many people look to bitcoin and crypto just to make a profit from buying low and sell high. In addition, blockchain technology is still not applicable in too many places in the world. Up to now, blockchain technology has existed for 10 years but it is still not trusted by many countries. This is a big problem because blockchain technology is actually quite difficult to use and it's still too new.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Negotiation on January 19, 2020, 08:13:43 AM
We need it both in the workplace and in the way of life No one can be planned without one Likewise Bitcoin will not end. As long as the marketplace continues to use bitcoin there is only a fluctuation in prices Likewise blockchain is growing in line with developing technologies. That is why it is difficult to say which one will survive and which one will die.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on January 19, 2020, 06:07:16 PM
Bitcoin has been in a bear market but that doesn’t mean it’s dead. It goes through cycles and is now beginning the next bull cycle. The halving will be what makes it go to the next level in price.
One of the most basic mistakes that many newbies make is to only look at the price of bitcoin to try to tell if bitcoin is a success or not, but they do not look at the the reasons that make bitcoin to have such a high price on the first place, bitcoin is the first decentralized currency that is not affiliated to any country, it does not need banks, it can be traded every single day, it can be moved relatively cheaply and no one can stop bitcoin since no one controls it, and for those reasons bitcoin will never be over.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: FLoving on January 19, 2020, 06:18:02 PM
We need it both in the workplace and in the way of life No one can be planned without one Likewise Bitcoin will not end. As long as the marketplace continues to use bitcoin there is only a fluctuation in prices Likewise blockchain is growing in line with developing technologies. That is why it is difficult to say which one will survive and which one will die.
Actually we have to say that these both are one body so if one is not there then the other will also be not there bitcoin came with the technology of blockchain and blockchain is accepted and adopted all over the world because of bitcoin and its amazing performance. If there will be any issue to one of them then people will also leave the whole technology and will not trust on the whole system. But that is not going to happen as bitcoin is a best and perfect coin for us and blockchain is also the best technology because of which the adoption of both of them is much faster.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: liuqi on January 19, 2020, 06:20:08 PM
blockchain is a technology which is achieved through the Bitcoin and it has been reduced by satoshi to this world so I believe no one will regret that at the same time Bitcoin will be always live in the crypto market.
So every uses in the crypto community never allow Bitcoin to lose it's name.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Desscount on January 20, 2020, 01:11:35 AM
blockchain is a technology which is achieved through the Bitcoin and it has been reduced by satoshi to this world so I believe no one will regret that at the same time Bitcoin will be always live in the crypto market.
So every uses in the crypto community never allow Bitcoin to lose it's name.
of course, Bitcoin is the life of Blockhcain, if Bitcoin doesn't exist then what does Blockchain mean? This technology is popular because of Bitcoin, and Bitcoin is famous for Blockchain.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Wollow on January 20, 2020, 01:20:46 AM
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Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: romero121 on January 20, 2020, 03:03:23 AM
blockchain is a technology which is achieved through the Bitcoin and it has been reduced by satoshi to this world so I believe no one will regret that at the same time Bitcoin will be always live in the crypto market.
So every uses in the crypto community never allow Bitcoin to lose it's name.
of course, Bitcoin is the life of Blockhcain, if Bitcoin doesn't exist then what does Blockchain mean? This technology is popular because of Bitcoin, and Bitcoin is famous for Blockchain.
Both BlockChain and bitcoin seems to be mutual beneficiaries. If BlockChain isn't there surely bitcoin could've never been successful. Same time if bitcoin isn't there blockchain technology wouldn't be known to the world. The success has now made more things get developed over the blockchain technology and bitcoin usage getting increase as a form of currency and on different transaction needs.

Every now and then things get updated, and in some way everything in interlinked and have dependence over other. Similar is with blockchain technology and bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: criza on January 20, 2020, 04:01:44 AM
Bitcoin has been in a bear market but that doesn’t mean it’s dead. It goes through cycles and is now beginning the next bull cycle. The halving will be what makes it go to the next level in price.
One of the most basic mistakes that many newbies make is to only look at the price of bitcoin to try to tell if bitcoin is a success or not, but they do not look at the the reasons that make bitcoin to have such a high price on the first place, bitcoin is the first decentralized currency that is not affiliated to any country, it does not need banks, it can be traded every single day, it can be moved relatively cheaply and no one can stop bitcoin since no one controls it, and for those reasons bitcoin will never be over.
Thats is why there are vast number of people who uses bitcoin because of its censorship in which they can use it to transact in the market with the use of bitcoin anonymously and had the freedom to explore the online market wherever and whenever they wanted.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Betwrong on January 20, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
I don’t know if Bitcoin will be over someday, but if someone should walk up to me and say it will be over, I will just tell them that it’s a lie. Making use of Bitcoin is by choice and even if you stop to use it, others will continue using it and if the price should drop to $0.01 Bitcoin will still be there and people will be making use of it.
~

I don't think so. If Bitcoin dropped to $0.01, it would be unprofitable to mine, even if only 10 miners remained. But BTC is so good, among other things, is because there are dozens of thousands of miners around the world supporting its blockchain. So, if you assume that BTC is here to stay, you should also know that it's price can't drop that low.
Currently, Bitcoin is flying very high in the crypto market with $9,000. The trend it has setup in the past year and by looking at its all previous progress I can say this that it will never drop below $6,000. It is very certain that Blockchain will live, and as bitcoins are the inventions of Blockchain it will also live. When more and more transactions will be added in Blockchain the price of Bitcoin will also rise.

I don't know how the price can be related to the number of transactions, but I agree with you in general. Bitcoin is far from being over, and, being, in fact, in the early stage of its development it is already pretty popular and pretty expensive, at the same time. It reminds me of the situation with Apple products which were popular not because they were cheap, but because they were good. You can use a blockchain with faster and cheaper transactions, but if you want to transfer a billion USD worth of crypto somewhere (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5deca6b2b21eb6bdd7fb5f0be4199d81a65193ac9066ec3579343b21b3eb7037), like someone did the other day, you use Bitcoin blockchain, even though you have to pay $80 in fees, just in case, you know?


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Kevondo on January 20, 2020, 01:02:13 PM
We need it both in the workplace and in the way of life No one can be planned without one Likewise Bitcoin will not end. As long as the marketplace continues to use bitcoin there is only a fluctuation in prices Likewise blockchain is growing in line with developing technologies. That is why it is difficult to say which one will survive and which one will die.
Let’s take it in this way Crypto is a vehicle, Bitcoin and Blockchain are the wheels of it. A vehicle cannot move if even one of its wheel is not working. Not scammers, predictions, speculations, false posts, haters, actually nothing can stop this digital market from growing and easing people. It was meant to comfort and benefit people and its present state is giving the proof of it. I can say this with guarantee that not Bitcoin nor Blockchain will ever over.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Visbay on January 20, 2020, 04:46:22 PM
We need it both in the workplace and in the way of life No one can be planned without one Likewise Bitcoin will not end. As long as the marketplace continues to use bitcoin there is only a fluctuation in prices Likewise blockchain is growing in line with developing technologies. That is why it is difficult to say which one will survive and which one will die.
Yeah, no doubt bitcoin will not end and so many investors take this fluctuation of price as an advantage to buy it low. Blockchain has achieved such a huge place and it's hard to go vanish but it’s improving day by day. Actually bitcoin and blockchain both are connected to each other because blockchain Is the best wallet that we use to store our bitcoins.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Latviand on January 21, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore

Bitcoin will go down when last miner will stop mining it. For Bitcoin to work you only need two users. Where there were Satoshi and Hal Finney, they made it work. Satoshi by himself could not.  I mean he could send coins to himself, but that would be just pointless. 
That's because blockchain technology is a broader terminlogy and also thing than Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just a part or portion of thousands of cryptocurrency, which is under blockchain technology. If ever Bitcoin will be gone someday, there are other cryptos that could still exist in this industry given how many cryptos are being generated every week. Blockchain technology has its obvious advantages.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on January 24, 2020, 03:32:22 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore

Bitcoin will go down when last miner will stop mining it. For Bitcoin to work you only need two users. Where there were Satoshi and Hal Finney, they made it work. Satoshi by himself could not.  I mean he could send coins to himself, but that would be just pointless. 
That's because blockchain technology is a broader terminlogy and also thing than Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just a part or portion of thousands of cryptocurrency, which is under blockchain technology. If ever Bitcoin will be gone someday, there are other cryptos that could still exist in this industry given how many cryptos are being generated every week. Blockchain technology has its obvious advantages.
No, it seems that many believe this market can keep going without bitcoin, maybe at some point in the future that statement is going to be true but right now that is unimaginable, bitcoin is everything for this market if it were to disappear for some reason you can be sure that all coins will disappear with it and it is not really complicated to understand why, if bitcoin crashed and disappeared I will most likely never invest in any cryptocurrency ever again because if bitcoin could disappear then that means that no coin is safe.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Accountsell on January 24, 2020, 03:49:32 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9 (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9)

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE)

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Bitcoins keep blockchain alive and vice-versa, blockchain keeps bitcoins active.
Both are related to each other so i do not think any of those might come to an end.
Bitcoins are a currency running on the blockchain technology so blockchain techology might also start a number of coins like bitcoins but none of them would be actual bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: Kevondo on January 24, 2020, 05:15:26 PM
Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore

Bitcoin will go down when last miner will stop mining it. For Bitcoin to work you only need two users. Where there were Satoshi and Hal Finney, they made it work. Satoshi by himself could not.  I mean he could send coins to himself, but that would be just pointless. 
That's because blockchain technology is a broader terminlogy and also thing than Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just a part or portion of thousands of cryptocurrency, which is under blockchain technology. If ever Bitcoin will be gone someday, there are other cryptos that could still exist in this industry given how many cryptos are being generated every week. Blockchain technology has its obvious advantages.
No, it seems that many believe this market can keep going without bitcoin, maybe at some point in the future that statement is going to be true but right now that is unimaginable, bitcoin is everything for this market if it were to disappear for some reason you can be sure that all coins will disappear with it and it is not really complicated to understand why, if bitcoin crashed and disappeared I will most likely never invest in any cryptocurrency ever again because if bitcoin could disappear then that means that no coin is safe.
It is not acceptable in present time and similar is the case for future also. You talked about if condition in future, see Bitcoin is the beauty and strength of crypto market and as its value is increasing day by day its strength is also increasing. How can you imagine that such a powerful coin which will gain more attraction in future also can be over?


Title: Re: bitcoin might be over but blockchain will live
Post by: South Park on January 28, 2020, 05:07:21 PM
No, it seems that many believe this market can keep going without bitcoin, maybe at some point in the future that statement is going to be true but right now that is unimaginable, bitcoin is everything for this market if it were to disappear for some reason you can be sure that all coins will disappear with it and it is not really complicated to understand why, if bitcoin crashed and disappeared I will most likely never invest in any cryptocurrency ever again because if bitcoin could disappear then that means that no coin is safe.
It is not acceptable in present time and similar is the case for future also. You talked about if condition in future, see Bitcoin is the beauty and strength of crypto market and as its value is increasing day by day its strength is also increasing. How can you imagine that such a powerful coin which will gain more attraction in future also can be over?
You did not really read my post in the right way, I never said that bitcoin is going to disappear, I'm just saying that we do not know what it is going to happen in the future and as such no matter how much we trust in it the possibility is going to be there, but right now that is unimaginable because bitcoin not only has the majority of the market cap it also has the majority of the support of the people that are invested in this market and that is not going to change anytime soon.