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December 17, 2019, 03:59:41 AM
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Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance
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December 17, 2019, 10:43:22 AM
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Its a known fact that blockchain has been reputed to be an invention that cannot be relegated to he background and at the same time, there have been series of comments to claim that bitcoin would be relegated but one thing is sure while the existence of blockchain does not guarantee that bitcoin would continue to be relevant, its also does not mean the end of bitcoin because whether its is accepted or not, as far as blockchain is still being used, deployed or implemented, its subtle support for bitcoin and with that, bitcoin would continue to be relevant.
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December 17, 2019, 12:00:14 PM
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Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance

After ten years and we still see people think Bitcoin will be over, I don't know how they are analyzing the situation I know OP is a newbie, but he should do a research and check if Bitcoin is really over, I hate it when people posted that Bitcoin has major flaws then go on to post a new project or coin, just promote your coin and don't create FUDS about Bitcoin.
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December 17, 2019, 12:26:58 PM
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It was not the intention to show that bitcoin has major flaws. Sorry on that.
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December 17, 2019, 12:37:45 PM
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It was not the intention to show that bitcoin has major flaws. Sorry on that.

Despite the flaws of bitcoin it managed to dominate the market even there are many other coins that is much better than it, why? because bitcoin already gained the popularity it needs to be respected and gross reputation through the years. I guess this is another FUD, well it really looks like FUD spreading because of the bitcoin gradually decreasing price right now. One thing is for sure, bitcoin will never be over.

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December 17, 2019, 12:53:57 PM
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Blockchain is technology that can be implemented almost everywhere and it isn't limited only to cryptocurrencies. So, yes, from that perspective it can be said that blockchain might survive longer than Bitcoin.
Although in case for Bitcoin to be replaced or to vanish we would need better and stronger cryptocurrencies that would take its place and so far something like that isn't on horizon.
So, to my opinion both of them, Bitcoin and blockchain will continue to exist for a long time and full potential of blockchain is yet to be developed and discovered.

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December 17, 2019, 12:55:24 PM
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Bitcoin might be over? I highly doubt at the moment and while saying this I acknowledge that it's situation is pretty bad but still leaving hope of halving as a great escape for it. If halving won't be able to push bitcoin in next 6 months, then my hopes will be wasted and maybe bitcoin might be over (also other people are seeing this pessimistic situation and it's a great opportunity to launch new altcoin for them or to make current ones in better positions and with high prices).
Blockchain technologies <-- word even says, technologies, it's not a currency, the comparison between this two sounds like USD may feel inflation but new Samsung Galaxy's price will be high.
Blockchain technologies are adopting in a lot of services, most of them run by governments that includes Birth Registry, land title registry and a lot, there is huge interest from companies like Walmart, MasterCard. You know, nowadays security is one of the most important factor and blockchain adds an extra layer of protection to stored data.

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After ten years and we still see people think Bitcoin will be over, I don't know how they are analyzing the situation I know OP is a newbie, but he should do a research and check if Bitcoin is really over, I hate it when people posted that Bitcoin has major flaws then go on to post a new project or coin, just promote your coin and don't create FUDS about Bitcoin.

There comes a point though when Bitcoin will reach it's pinnacle, I'm not saying we're there yet, I'm not saying Bitcoin is done, what I am saying is that, even if it's not in our lifetime, Bitcoin wont go up and up and up in value, certainly not at the rate it has been anyway.

I think there will come a time when it will steady out and any gains and or drop will be much smaller, not sure when this will happen but one day it is inevitable.

A big issue is that so many people got into BTC to make money, it was the early adopters who got into it for the tech and not many of them knew BTC would be as valuable as it is today. Modern adopters, over the past couple of years, got involved for the gains and as they've seen gains it's spread via word of mouth and more and more people have got involved.

There comes a point when that's going to die off as well, especially those who have got in over the past 12 months it's been a tricky ride. I hate to go against trends as it's shown to be unwise in the past but crypto is not like traditional markets as it's knew technology.

I actually think come this halving, it wont gain as much as people thought or hoped for or as much as previous years, even if it does it will be temporary because of the hype leading up to to that point a month or so before, FOMO may drive the price up, if it drives it up high enough it may have the potential to keep the momentum going for awhile, get more word of mouth and media attention to drive new people in and I may be wrong and that able to give it a new breath of life for awhile.

The issue is, I think Bitcoin is so massively different now than what it was when it first started, Bitcoin was never a store of value in the early day, people were using it as peer to peer electronic cash, since then it's become a store of value asset, a digital version of gold. Fees and confirmation times have been an issue for awhile it's not returned to the level of peer to peer cash for awhile now, people use BTC as their store of value and other crypto as their payment method for sending fast, cheap payments.

The problem is people have gold because it holds it's value, BTC being so volatile if it keeps dropping and doesn't keep the momentum going from it's gains, it's destined to not hold it's value. FOMO of price hikes keeps it going up at the minute, when it gains a little people think it may rocket and invest more, as they don't want to miss out and it drives the price up, people then realise it's not going up as fast as they want or the hype/momentum dies off and as a result the price drops.

In short, what I'm trying to say is that Bitcoin did so well when it came out because people were passionate about the tech, it was unique, nothing else on the market like it and it solved a problem and had a purpose, that's what brought it value and gained real ORGANIC traction, now Bitcoin has moved to a store of value where it was never really supposed to be and has a new purpose, there's coins out there doing what Bitcoin initially set out to do better and have improved upon that initial tech. I don't believe BTC has what it takes to keep going but I accept I could be wrong and people who have usually bet against BTC have ended up looking very silly. I just feel the growth we do so from time to time now, isn't really happening organically and isn't happening for the right reasons.

Like I said, despite this opinion, even if price action is being done for the wrong reasons and out of FOMO, that alone can still keep pushing BTC up and up and up for the foreseeable future, I just think there's a limit and there's only so far that can take you before it eventually comes to an end and stops. Only true, innovative, radical, useful tech can drive organic growth and sadly, I feel Bitcoin has lost it's way and isn't really any of those things anymore.
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December 17, 2019, 01:08:37 PM
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Bitcoin is not even 5% of its accomplishment yet. The potential is not that shallow that it will die in its infancy.

Bitcoin cannot be over before it even start.

And mind you, Bitcoin is not about the price of BTC. That is the least significant portion of Bitcoin's growth.
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December 17, 2019, 01:11:22 PM
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Bitcoin still have lots of future, but blockchain is more acceptable for other countries as btc is decentralised and they will not have access on it unlike in blockchain system they will be able to create applications and programs that will fit on their needs and wants. It can be use and adopt by anyone depending on restrictions that they will put that can work like BTC but in centralised way they wanted.

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December 17, 2019, 01:26:39 PM
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It was not the intention to show that bitcoin has major flaws. Sorry on that.
It actually has. But the continuous development and changes made by the community to let it grow addressed those flaws, and that's why we are here, right now, with BTC standing at thousands of dollars per coin. But well, lets move on to blockchain which is in all honesty, a system that isn't much noticed because BTC took up majority of the popularity. Blockchain technology seems like it could provide a whole new world to how transactions work, but only a few companies have started in its development towards it. Just past 2 weeks ago or so, China declared it's seriousness in adapting the blockchain technology and are fully focusing on its development, which I fully agree on.
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December 17, 2019, 01:45:16 PM
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Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9

And just in case, the first document
TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance
In my own opinion, a lot of countries are starting to adopt blockchain technology, even they banned bitcoin and cryptocurrencies due to increase of scams and other illegal activities, but i don't think that would be the reason why bitcoin will be over because even bitcoin decreases it's price badly there are still possibilities that it would be leagalize as a currency all over the world due to it's popularity and innovation.



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December 17, 2019, 02:14:49 PM
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They both came together and will always live and prosper together. While blockchain is getting acceptance from governments ( With Xi’s backing, China looks to become a world leader in blockchain as US policy is absent) bitcoin has a strong community behind him. I don't think from here, bitcoin has any way of going back.

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December 17, 2019, 02:17:12 PM
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There are a lot of countries now start adopting blockchain technology because this is very useful in terms of economic growth and progress.
But blockchain will not work without a host and it should have strong crypto that might be used, bitcoin is the one so far. I dont think bitcoin might be over, in fact, it is now on the global market and become in the mainstream.

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December 17, 2019, 02:35:42 PM
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Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

When I first proposed to use cryptocurrencies as support for a financial system based on energy instead of money or gold, some members asked me how it would be instrumented. Thanks to them all.

Here it is. The basis of a plan for a financial system based on blockchain technology and energy, mainly solar, that can show the way it may be operative and workable.

TERAFLOPS AND TERALUMENS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QtFCyUQx_PjlbOFK-NOm2kY-oSleeJF9

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TERAFLOPS AND TERAWATTS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7JgGimv_JMJaWdYQXdtb1RVZVE

I'd really appreciate a review. Thanks in advance
What could be the reasons why bitcoin might be over? Is it because of it's price today? I think not because bitcoin is also a part of blockchain technology, so both bitcoin and blockchain will live. Also, a lot of countries and large businesses are now adopting blockchain technology no doubt that some of them are also buying bitcoin, so i assume bitcoin will definitely live.
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December 17, 2019, 03:10:11 PM
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Bitcoin will never be over. There are so many people who enjoy making headlines this big so that they can get attention, you guys think OP considers bitcoin to be over? He knows it is not over, he knows it is not going to be over any time soon. He just claims that on the headline so that his topic can get clicks, that is what people in the online world wants, clicks and attention.

Everyone can be someone much more important online than their real life which is why they are doing something so major. Blockchain is definitely awesome and in the recent years it has seen more attention than bitcoin thats true and it will only get bigger but just because blockchain is getting attention more than bitcoin doesn't mean that bitcoin is somehow over.

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December 17, 2019, 04:06:32 PM
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Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore

Bitcoin will go down when last miner will stop mining it. For Bitcoin to work you only need two users. Where there were Satoshi and Hal Finney, they made it work. Satoshi by himself could not.  I mean he could send coins to himself, but that would be just pointless. 
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December 17, 2019, 05:49:38 PM
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There are a lot of countries now start adopting blockchain technology because this is very useful in terms of economic growth and progress.
But blockchain will not work without a host and it should have strong crypto that might be used, bitcoin is the one so far. I dont think bitcoin might be over, in fact, it is now on the global market and become in the mainstream.

What do you mean by host? I would describe Blockchain Technology as a way of storing data so that data is resistant to manipulation. It is substitute to traditional database models by recording data in the blocks. Creating cryptocurrency is rather an instance or utility of Blockchain Technology. Else otherwise, blockchain is self sufficient to run even without having any monetary system (or cryptocurrency) running over it.

Bitcoin on its own doesn't contribute anything towards application of Blockchain Technology. Developers can't use Bitcoin's ecosystem (or blockchain) to develop some applications over it. Bitcoin only has single utility i.e. to be used as currency. More recent cryptocurrencies like Ethereum have opened the door for developers to create their own applications without creating blockchain first.
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December 17, 2019, 05:52:46 PM
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I've written messages about it before, and I want to write it back here. Yes, of course, Bitcoin will lose its market power and its usage rate will decrease. Full deletion from the market is also unlikely, but whatever happens to Bitcoin, block chain technology will evolve more and will have a very important place in our lives. With the developing technology, the usage of block chain is increasing day by day and this is a good development for this technology. With today's market, it is difficult to comment for years to come, but block chain technology will reach a much better position.
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December 17, 2019, 05:59:22 PM
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Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore

Bitcoin will go down when last miner will stop mining it. For Bitcoin to work you only need two users. Where there were Satoshi and Hal Finney, they made it work. Satoshi by himself could not.  I mean he could send coins to himself, but that would be just pointless. 
And this is where this revolutionary project is recognized due to that usage and feature.I cant say that bitcoin is already over yet
people do really love to say such things anytime the current price market is going down.They say the same things and now
it do talk or somewhat mentions about project or similar things? It wont really be that effective for sure.Blockchain tech is for sure
for it to be used and applied on longer terms which i dont have any doubt on that.

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