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Title: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Maotezi on December 20, 2019, 04:01:16 PM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: ryzaadit on December 20, 2019, 05:13:19 PM
If you have an ability to verify the hash game programmer without using a third service, and the result was correct that will be a fair game for you.

Fair or not, all people who lost their money sometimes called the casino was a scammer. Online / offline casino both of them always have a cheater went doing a gamble, but we as the players don't know about it sometimes.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: bakasabo on December 20, 2019, 05:17:52 PM
All the games are fair. Casinos win any, when you lose and with house on every bet won :)


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: DarkDays on December 20, 2019, 05:18:15 PM
If you have an ability to verify the hash game programmer without using a third service, and the result was correct that will be a fair game for you.

Fair or not, all people who lost their money sometimes called the casino was a scammer. Online / offline casino both of them always have a cheater went doing a gamble, but we as the players don't know about it sometimes.

True, so long as there is a provably fair system in place, then these games are equally fair.

beyond this, it really depends on the fairness system implemented by the casino. I know that the vast majority of casinos don't have provably fair slots, so we can safely say that this isn't top of the list.

But beyond that, practically all games are provably fair.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: seoincorporation on December 20, 2019, 05:24:59 PM
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If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?

I like the provably fair of Plinko in Luckyb.it and i will explain why...

The bet result comes from the bitcoin transaction and the secret key

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<tx_id>:<vout_id>:<secret_key>

As they explain in their site:

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<tx_id> is the transaction id of your bet as assigned by your wallet. (This data is controlled by you.)

<vout_id> is the rank of the output of your bet within the transaction's list of outputs. (Rank starts at 0 and is controlled by you.) This produces different lucky moves for each bet if you play several bets within a single transaction.

<secret_key> is the secret key of the day. It is unknown to you at the time of playing, but the hashes of all keys have been are published in advance, so nobody can modify these keys. The day of your bet is determined by the moment LuckyBit receives your bet's transaction. (Typically 1 to 10 seconds after you sent it.)

From the hash of <tx_id>:<vout_id>:<secret_key>, LuckyBit takes the binary representation of the last 2 bytes and read it from the left side. The bits determine your lucky moves: A 1 translates to a right move, a 0 to a left move. For instance, if the hexadecimal hash ends with ffff, your coin would always go right as the binary string would contain sixteen 1 and no 0

I haven't see another PF engine like this, and i love how the bet result comes from the TX id.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: finaleshot2016 on December 20, 2019, 05:27:09 PM
All of these games are fair because, in order to win, you need pure luck and high chance. When we're talking about online casinos, I think it depends on the algorithm they've made in order to produce a gambling game.

In modern technology, we can now implement things with AI, so probably the casino will always win. They will create an algorithm that will make you realize it's being fair but in reality, it will just get your money until the end. That's the use of AI with good algorithms, they will not create a casino that is in favor with the users.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: mindrust on December 20, 2019, 05:29:06 PM
Choosing casino is more important than choosing a game.

If the casino have bad intentions, no matter which game you play, you'll lose.

Game-wise, as long as you play poker/blackjack against real players, I'd say you have more chances of winning compared to the other games. If you are playing against a computer it really doesn't matter. Just play dice with a low house edge.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: dothebeats on December 20, 2019, 05:41:01 PM
Fairness depends on who implements it, and if you will be able to verify all the hash of each session you have for each game and find it fair, then all games are fair on that platform. Note that the house edge governs all the chances of you winning/losing a certain game. Add the luck/skill factor to that and you have a full session/game of whatever it is that you've bet on. Oftentimes, people say that a platform is a scam because they went on a losing streak and busted all of their bank roll while in reality, everything is fair and verifiable through third-party hash checkers.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: zhekinsp on December 20, 2019, 05:49:12 PM
I guess it depends on the site where we choose to bet over the game for fairness because most of the online casino proves them as provably fair and anyone could verify their results so all casino games are fair enough when you choose a gambling site which is renowned in this forum.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: akmal1984 on December 20, 2019, 06:43:40 PM
I think poker is a very fair game because we are against other players. I don't doubt the system but we all know how difficult it is to win against a system. I think poker is just a mental problem and a little luck with a good card can make us win. I once played dice in crypto casino ... honestly it was very difficult to win the longer I played.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Patatas on December 20, 2019, 08:22:45 PM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?
The question is wrongly framed. A reputed site can make every game fair while a scammy site can be unfair on all the games. Poker can be easily cheated really!Imagine a site that promises live deals on Poker and just uses bots instead? How'd you verify any of that?


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Nadziratel on December 20, 2019, 08:28:14 PM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?

I think it's best that you know all the rules of the game. So if you know roulette, for example, I think it would be the best, most fair.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Naida_BR on December 20, 2019, 08:55:02 PM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?

There is not any fair game in online casinos.
I would say that poker is the most fair game in offline casinos as it might be more difficult to cheat the deck.
On online casinos you cannot know what is happening with the cards that coming out of the deck. You have to have a lot of luck in order to win on online casinos - skill is not required.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: harizen on December 20, 2019, 09:24:43 PM
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.

Generally speaking, poker is a strategy-based game therefore, cheating over it might be difficult. You are against at your fellow players on a single table playing in a single set of the deck.

But when we put that game "online", that's where the flaws might occur as we don't know if we are really playing against a human or we are just dealing against a bot.

Some of the online casinos today do have their own verifiers to show that everything is fair. As we know, even with the bet verified properly, not all can understand how it works or still they aren't sure if it's true. It's just a matter now of how reputable that site is for them to somehow trust that everything is fair.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: adzino on December 20, 2019, 09:51:25 PM
Your question and your poll is some what really confusing. First of all, you can't ask "which game is more fair", instead you will be getting better answer if you ask "which casino is fair/legit". All the games you mentioned can be fair (not sure about slots or luckysix along with some games you have mentioned) but what if the casino itself is not legit and scamming you? All I am trying to say is that if a casino is honest, all games that they will provide won't be rigged at all.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: vintages on December 20, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
To me, I think all the games are fair.
It may seems like one of the listed is not fair but its just simply because the player haven't master the technique in playing it and wining in it.
Also, the casino where the game is played is also a determinate. Some of them might have been manipulated by their owners to prevent too much winning.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: ralle14 on December 21, 2019, 07:44:15 AM
I think it's best that you know all the rules of the game. So if you know roulette, for example, I think it would be the best, most fair.
Knowing the rules doesn't make it more fair than the others what if it's a live roulette there's no way to verify each bets since they're rolled by the dealer it'll just come down to trusting their operations. Online casinos have different ways of making their game fair but imo there's no clear winner of which game is the most fair.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Assface16678 on December 21, 2019, 09:10:23 AM
I think it's best that you know all the rules of the game. So if you know roulette, for example, I think it would be the best, most fair.
Knowing the rules doesn't make it more fair than the others what if it's a live roulette there's no way to verify each bets since they're rolled by the dealer it'll just come down to trusting their operations. Online casinos have different ways of making their game fair but imo there's no clear winner of which game is the most fair.

Before I was playing different gambling because my friend told me it could help me to gain a lot of money. After we observe the environment of the casino, we did some research about how can we win the game and becomes a millionaire on our first weeks of playing gambling. The luck is with us for a whole month it gives us a lot of financial services to our selves. Most of the time we play blackjack and dice because it is the most enjoyable of all the games they have. But not all the time the lucky is on us the time has come that we need to decide if we were going to take all of our money. In a hard decision with a half percent of winning and we made a mistake on the prediction on dice that cause of our lose.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: virasog on December 21, 2019, 09:30:41 AM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?

No one will be playing the games if they were not being fair. Yet the house always have the advantages in all these games. Sports betting is the most fair game because no site can manipulate it in any way and the results are always transparent.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Wexnident on December 21, 2019, 09:49:20 AM
Well, you could say that all of them are fair and at the same time not? I mean, their fair because luck plays a huge part like literally everything in Casinos. But you could also predict some like let's say, blackjack. Once the deck is almost gone, if you could memorize the cards drawn, you could check and see whether the remaining cards could get you blackjack or not, but that's only for those that can memorize them, which is close to null. Other than that, pretty much you could say Online casino games are fair. Like, we wouldn't be here trying our luck if they weren't right?


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Avirunes on December 21, 2019, 09:58:11 AM
No one will be playing the games if they were not being fair. Yet the house always have the advantages in all these games. Sports betting is the most fair game because no site can manipulate it in any way and the results are always transparent.

What if the a sport event comes out to be fixed? It happens doesn't it. Doesn't have to be casino in advantage but either way its a rigged result and somehow affected your bet slip.

That brings me down to another question: What if someone loses on a match and it is found to be a fixed match later on after the bet-slip is settled, so then will the sportsbook void that bet and return the stake or it will be as it is? (I've never encountered or heard of such situation. Any cases you can link me upto will be helpful)


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Eclipse26 on December 21, 2019, 10:11:50 AM
Fairness is not on the game, it's on the site. All games can be fair if no one is cheating or manipulating the game. It will just be all about luck, strategy, and how good you are at playing a certain game. But if we're going to talk about a site who's trying to scam gamblers, then that's not fair because you'll still end up losing. Maybe physical casinos are fairer than online casinos because they can manipulate it.

No one will be playing the games if they were not being fair. Yet the house always have the advantages in all these games. Sports betting is the most fair game because no site can manipulate it in any way and the results are always transparent.
Even sports betting can be manipulated. Even before the game starts, they already have a winner.

I think every game can be manipulated if they want to, so I can't say which is most fair. I depends on the fairness of people.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: sunsilk on December 21, 2019, 10:16:01 AM
Choosing casino is more important than choosing a game.
I'd be of the same opinion. This is a better factor when you gamble which can give you a peace of mind. Casinos that's protecting their reputation can always be trusted and you don't have to worry of how being fair they are because most of the time, they are.

Even sports betting can be manipulated. Even before the game starts, they already have a winner.

I think every game can be manipulated if they want to, so I can't say which is most fair. I depends on the fairness of people.
I've watched documentaries about match fixing with sports betting. But with crypto casinos, do you really think that they'll do that? I haven't heard a crypto casino that's ever been involved with that activity. The traditional online casinos, actually they have the records of it.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: akmal1984 on December 21, 2019, 10:51:38 AM

No one will be playing the games if they were not being fair. Yet the house always have the advantages in all these games. Sports betting is the most fair game because no site can manipulate it in any way and the results are always transparent.
if the sports scale is greater because gambling houses are only as facilitators. So we are purely betting based on analysis and without having to fight the system like other online games. I played on a multi-game site, a few weeks ago a sportsbook was added to the site. Since then I only played Sports because it's fairer for me too


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Janation on December 21, 2019, 11:52:52 AM
I think sports betting is too.

I mean it is not dependent on the site, it depends on the outcome of the game that you are betting in. I mean that is fair right? What is unfair about that? I think those types of online casinos are fair.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 21, 2019, 02:07:32 PM
I will not bother to search which games are fair or not because it still hard to make money from gambling games, and you should know that. I think the gambling sites itself will be fair to their members and will not cheat them because that will be related to their reputations. I don't think that they need to be unfair if, in the end, they will get the most money from gamblers, and I think we don't know if they are really fair or not with their games.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: panganib999 on December 21, 2019, 02:36:33 PM
I mean, is there even a casino game that isn't fair? Like it's pretty much a matter of perspective at this point. If you think Player against AI is not fair, then it isn't, but most probably it is, you just don't understand how the logic and the system works. If Player vs Player then I have no doubt you'd just say that the other guy was luckier than you... but that's what makes it fair. Luck. Literally every gambling game there is could be won just because you're lucky, and there's literally nothing you can do about it.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: peter0425 on December 21, 2019, 02:42:00 PM
I think sports betting is too.

I mean it is not dependent on the site, it depends on the outcome of the game that you are betting in. I mean that is fair right? What is unfair about that? I think those types of online casinos are fair.
supporting this one,since sportsbetting is more on experience and knowledge of the game,teams and players in which will make you win.and not the computer programmed to give the result .

so yeah it is sportsbetting is what the fairest of them all.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: ReiMomo on December 21, 2019, 04:45:16 PM
You did not mention the betting site games, they are the fairest online casinos because I think they rely on the result in every sports game had. As a suggested above was the right sports betting casino deserve to be in the list and I am sure they had fair result because we know that it is matter on the match result.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: MyIdeas on December 21, 2019, 04:59:43 PM
Betting on sports is not mentioned but I will favor that if we are betting with a second person and the casino remain a third party and will get a commission because in that the casino just take its portion and will see the results that who will win.In this we cannot say that the casino will do any modification in the result.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: beerlover on December 21, 2019, 05:09:06 PM
Well, for crypto ones the most fair is the dice game for sure. All other games could be very provably fair however the only one that is truly provably fair is the dice game. Don't consider all dice games as provably fair because some of them are not and some of them do high marketing to remove that fact from peoples minds and that is not really nice but the reality is that if the casino is legit they will provide all the proof in the world to show you that they are legit provably fair.

Look at primedice for example, they have been in operation for longer than 6 years now and nobody has found a single problem with their code, nobody can claim they are not provably fair. Some games like sportsbook or poker can never be truly provably fair for example and some games like crash could be but very difficult, dice is the best choice.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Colt81 on December 21, 2019, 05:57:30 PM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?
In my own personal opinion, every game at the online casino are all fair, there are just awful chances that makes you lose because you are unlucky, that is why you think casino games in online casinos are not fair. But i think there are really online casinos that are not fair, which it is programmed to keep you lose in every game that you played.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: joshy23 on December 21, 2019, 06:38:57 PM
Betting on sports is not mentioned but I will favor that if we are betting with a second person and the casino remain a third party and will get a commission because in that the casino just take its portion and will see the results that who will win.In this we cannot say that the casino will do any modification in the result.
Right, the percentage that the sports betting site will have is for the maintenance and transactions but with the game itself the house can't interfere
with any outcome. Sports betting favors those who are good from every sports, they can take the advantages without worrying with the game house
might wrecked them out but it will rely with the actual game results.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Blackdeath on December 21, 2019, 08:22:21 PM
It is hard to conclude that every games in a online casino is fair or not because it is still run by a computer or an technology that a programmer can avoid to make every player win a game, that is why it is better to check the casinos that we are about to play if it is really legitimate to avoid cheating and scam.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Webetcoins on December 22, 2019, 05:59:26 AM
I think sports betting is too.

I mean it is not dependent on the site, it depends on the outcome of the game that you are betting in. I mean that is fair right? What is unfair about that? I think those types of online casinos are fair.
When you bet on games, definitely the house has not much ground to interfere in the results because the results depend on the players who are playing. I believe luck does not play major role in the results of games because it is totally relying on the player and his or her skills. I also find sports betting fair gambling game because here the house is not able to loot you easily and manipulate results. 


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: kotajikikox on December 22, 2019, 06:24:19 AM
its roulette is what for me ,the fairness of the game is base on what would be the outcome per roll.and this game cannot be manipulated for many reasons.and i believe that this is also one of my favorite game lol.
It is hard to conclude that every games in a online casino is fair or not because it is still run by a computer or an technology that a programmer can avoid to make every player win a game, that is why it is better to check the casinos that we are about to play if it is really legitimate to avoid cheating and scam.
but we can give our idea of what we think is fair,not unless manipulation happens and that is what we hates to happen.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: panjul07 on December 22, 2019, 09:26:18 AM
It is hard to conclude that every games in a online casino is fair or not because it is still run by a computer or an technology that a programmer can avoid to make every player win a game, that is why it is better to check the casinos that we are about to play if it is really legitimate to avoid cheating and scam.

It is not hard if you understand about provably fair system. If the game is controlled by a computer/programmer that can manipulate the result then it is not fair game obviously.
About which game is the most fair? I can say all as long as it is using provably fair system. I also can say that all games are not fair if it is not using provably fair system.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Sanitough on December 22, 2019, 09:31:34 AM
I think Dice, because we can audit the result and hopefully people will understand that we only loss because of the house edge, not because the site is cheating on us.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Sanugarid on December 22, 2019, 10:51:53 AM
I think sports betting is too.

I mean it is not dependent on the site, it depends on the outcome of the game that you are betting in. I mean that is fair right? What is unfair about that? I think those types of online casinos are fair.
When you bet on games, definitely the house has not much ground to interfere in the results because the results depend on the players who are playing. I believe luck does not play major role in the results of games because it is totally relying on the player and his or her skills. I also find sports betting fair gambling game because here the house is not able to loot you easily and manipulate results. 

There's no such thing as unfair game casino online. That could be reported if it let the players loss all their money and make a profit out of it. If that's the case they should report it suddenly.

But as far as I know, all of the gambling casinos are fair and I haven't heard someone complaining about the games.

Maybe there are some reports about the poor site or technical problems that may occur. It is hard to handle or play with errors that it can also lead you to scam or another problem.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Finestream on December 22, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
All the games are fair if the gambling site is fair, otherwise, those games that you listed will not exist until now.

So far, most votes are on dice, well, I understand because people can check the seed and they can verify if it's fair or not, and there has been a lot of dice sites in the crypto space so that would also say that people are playing dice games more because they trust them more.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Darker45 on December 22, 2019, 12:00:05 PM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?

For as long as they are coded in such a way that the result is absolutely random and that the site cannot influence on it, they could all be fair.

But if you think poker is the most fair, I don't think I'll agree. I suppose you are referring to live poker. I have reservations about live poker as I cannot verify whether the person one the other side of the table is a real one. And if the other players on the table are indeed real persons, you still cannot verify whether 2-3 of them are playing together and that they know each other's cards. That would be like you against the rest of the players.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Meowth05 on December 22, 2019, 02:07:40 PM
All the games are fair if the gambling site is fair, otherwise, those games that you listed will not exist until now.

So far, most votes are on dice, well, I understand because people can check the seed and they can verify if it's fair or not, and there has been a lot of dice sites in the crypto space so that would also say that people are playing dice games more because they trust them more.
I also do think that it depends on the gambling site. Yet, if the code used on it is random then definitely it is probably fair. In my opinion, dice is game is the really fair among them all whether it is live or online game. And I could say that Sports bet could be provably fair as well since it depends on the skills of the opposed two teams.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: btc78 on December 22, 2019, 02:18:42 PM
flipcoin i think?because that game is purely luck so with that fairness is indeed right?

All the games are fair if the gambling site is fair, otherwise, those games that you listed will not exist until now.
what?what do you mean by "not exist"?are you serious?

So far, most votes are on dice, well, I understand because people can check the seed and they can verify if it's fair or not, and there has been a lot of dice sites in the crypto space so that would also say that people are playing dice games more because they trust them more.

gambling is a gambling and without luck you will gain nothing,so basically all of them are fair.in any way.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Dalmar on December 22, 2019, 02:47:36 PM
Well, you could say that all of them are fair and at the same time not? I mean, their fair because luck plays a huge part like literally everything in Casinos. But you could also predict some like let's say, blackjack. Once the deck is almost gone, if you could memorize the cards drawn, you could check and see whether the remaining cards could get you blackjack or not, but that's only for those that can memorize them, which is close to null. Other than that, pretty much you could say Online casino games are fair. Like, we wouldn't be here trying our luck if they weren't right?
Slots have the worst percentage of winning, IIRC. The red side of the European roulette has a 47% chance to hit the table, same is actual for black color. AFAIK, the blackjack has the best probability of winning if the experienced gambler can use the right strategy during the game. Money management + proven blackjack strategy will give great opportunities.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: AliMan on December 22, 2019, 02:49:05 PM
All the games are fair if the gambling site is fair, otherwise, those games that you listed will not exist until now.

So far, most votes are on dice, well, I understand because people can check the seed and they can verify if it's fair or not, and there has been a lot of dice sites in the crypto space so that would also say that people are playing dice games more because they trust them more.

We all trusted dice with respect to how profitable it is during lucky bets, and I guess most people expected more chances of winning instead of diverting to other casino games. Personally, I am choosing dice when I was out of profit on other games or in short this was my diversions. Technically, the game doesn't have to build a lot of skills and you only need to bet independently and wait for lucky results.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Mahanton on December 22, 2019, 04:50:39 PM
All would be fair if bets are verifiable and you do stick to reputable gambling sites.I dont know on Slots though but majority knows that this isnt common to be called as fair.

So if you do always think up with fairness then i would say on PvP games which you do actually play against other players not on house bots itself.Also, with other
card games as mentioned.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Landak on December 22, 2019, 05:03:12 PM
hard to say, all the games are fair depending on where you play because every gambling site there must be a "trick" from the devs, the casino game that I like and personally I think fair is roulette. Other people might disagree with me. another reason maybe because I currently make a lot of profit from roulette games. so that's my opinion for the whole casino game.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Oceat on December 22, 2019, 05:11:10 PM
hard to say, all the games are fair depending on where you play because every gambling site there must be a "trick" from the devs, the casino game that I like and personally I think fair is roulette. Other people might disagree with me. another reason maybe because I currently make a lot of profit from roulette games. so that's my opinion for the whole casino game.
I think it's better to play against human instead of bots/computer because they were too advance and wise that the average human could calculate what is their next move. Every casino is fair though but not the game that is computer generated machine. Overall I agree the top posts that no matter where you are playing if the intention of the casino is not pure it's always not fair.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: iamsheikhadil on December 22, 2019, 05:40:43 PM
All of the games are fair as long as they are probably fair, but, they might have different house edge as roulette has a higher house edge than dice and hence winning on roulette in the long run is more difficult than in dice. But all games are equally fair.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: pixie85 on December 22, 2019, 07:31:55 PM
I always see games where you have more to say as better. Maybe not more fair but giving you higher odds. If all you have to do is press a button or pull a lever and the machine does everything it leaves too much to chance and makes it much easier for the machine to hide cheating and hidden fees.

In this matter games like poker and blackjack are much better than slots for example.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Harlot on December 22, 2019, 07:54:25 PM
If you are looking for "fairness" in the game then you probably won't worry about it when it comes to trusted and reputable gambling sites but if you are talking about chances of winning the game then maybe poker isn't really the best game in a casino gambling site to play in since your chances are lower when it comes to card game against other players unlike black jack and baccarat. So either those card games or casino games where you can adjust your chances of winning per bet. You should take note that the payout will either decrease or increase depending on how risky your next bet will be for the game.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Ranly123 on December 22, 2019, 09:08:25 PM
All of the games are fair as long as they are probably fair, but, they might have different house edge as roulette has a higher house edge than dice and hence winning on roulette in the long run is more difficult than in dice. But all games are equally fair.

You already said there is a house edge on every casino games. So talking about fairness, there would be minimal due to this house edge. Casinos cannot survive in the industry if they are fair for their clients and let the successive winning happen over and over again.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: michellee on December 23, 2019, 10:10:12 AM
All the games are fair if the gambling site is fair, otherwise, those games that you listed will not exist until now.

So far, most votes are on dice, well, I understand because people can check the seed and they can verify if it's fair or not, and there has been a lot of dice sites in the crypto space so that would also say that people are playing dice games more because they trust them more.
I also do think that it depends on the gambling site. Yet, if the code used on it is random then definitely it is probably fair. In my opinion, dice is game is the really fair among them all whether it is live or online game. And I could say that Sports bet could be provably fair as well since it depends on the skills of the opposed two teams.
I think the casino would be fair to their members because they need their members to keep playing on their site, so they will say that they have a fair game that the members can play. Dice is one of the gambling games that are fair among the other gambling games, but I think besides dice games, there are other gambling games that will be fair in the casino.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: bering on December 23, 2019, 12:25:18 PM
I think people were correct here that all off gambling games will fair if you playing at fair casinos and it will be change to be unfair if you play at scam casinos but regardless all of it in my view if this can be identified as one of gambling games then one of the most fair game for online gambling sites is sport betting because the results from sport bets cannot be manipulated by the casinos itself


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Shinpako09 on December 23, 2019, 12:45:57 PM
All of the games are fair. You shouldn't judge them base on how hard or easy to win in a game. Fairness isn't depend on game, it's the site. As long as the site is fair, then all games is fair as usual. You can't call a game isn't fair just because it's hard to win on that game. Remember it's hard to win in any kind of gambling games. If you have that kind of mindset, then most probably, all games isn't fair for you because it's hard to win in any games. If you have doubt about fairness, you should only play pvp.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: peter0425 on December 23, 2019, 01:08:31 PM
I always see games where you have more to say as better. Maybe not more fair but giving you higher odds. If all you have to do is press a button or pull a lever and the machine does everything it leaves too much to chance and makes it much easier for the machine to hide cheating and hidden fees.

In this matter games like poker and blackjack are much better than slots for example.

but it is same matter right?still machine or computer operated?so how come that it become much different from slots and other instant press button?but in some sense yeah there is some truth in your points specially Card games that we need to decide choosing cards not like the slot in which after button pressing the machine will choose the combination that i am sure it is programed to give wins once in a blue moon.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Shimmiry on December 23, 2019, 02:33:19 PM
I always see games where you have more to say as better. Maybe not more fair but giving you higher odds. If all you have to do is press a button or pull a lever and the machine does everything it leaves too much to chance and makes it much easier for the machine to hide cheating and hidden fees.

In this matter games like poker and blackjack are much better than slots for example.

but it is same matter right?still machine or computer operated?so how come that it become much different from slots and other instant press button?but in some sense yeah there is some truth in your points specially Card games that we need to decide choosing cards not like the slot in which after button pressing the machine will choose the combination that i am sure it is programed to give wins once in a blue moon.


I already play gambling for a long time, and most of the time I play card games because it is easy you and the odds and probability of the cards that I handled and the card controlled by the opponent. It is easy to know if they going to win or not before I don't have any knowledge of card games. Then my friend teach me how to play, and I tried to make a study or research how it works to enjoy more the game after that I tried too on playing in the casino because it can give me a lot of profit than playing inside the how and wage just a little amount of value. After then, I explore different card games like poker and blackjack. I mastered those card games because it is simple to understand and to win.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: crwth on December 24, 2019, 07:31:16 AM
I voted for Dice to be in the best games to be ”somewhat” fair to the player. And of course, poker. But it's faster to obtain that satisfaction that we want in gambling in dice. The game will be different if you know when to stop. If you have a specific capital for gaming, then you should follow it and don't compromise just because of your feelings. It would be fairer that way.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Tipstar on December 24, 2019, 07:38:12 AM
All of them are fair if you played in a provably fair casino. But the one that is best for wining or not losing for the user is the one with lowest house edge.
And generally dice have the lowest house edge i.e. 1% in average. That is equivalent to a roulette with 1 to 99 black and red and 1 0 (or 100) as green.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Bitinity on December 24, 2019, 07:47:26 AM
hard to say, all the games are fair depending on where you play because every gambling site there must be a "trick" from the devs, the casino game that I like and personally I think fair is roulette. Other people might disagree with me. another reason maybe because I currently make a lot of profit from roulette games. so that's my opinion for the whole casino game.
I think it's better to play against human instead of bots/computer because they were too advance and wise that the average human could calculate what is their next move. Every casino is fair though but not the game that is computer generated machine. Overall I agree the top posts that no matter where you are playing if the intention of the casino is not pure it's always not fair.

Against human but if you do it online then there is no guarantees that the game is fair. You wont even know that your opponent is real player or just a bot that act like real player. Even worst this bot can come from the site itself. Fair or not is still related to the system of the game not based on who you play against with.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: shoreno on December 24, 2019, 08:03:31 AM
poker is a game that requires skill right ? so you might be right with that  . you can win more oftenly as long as you have some good experience on playing on it  while other games on the list only rely on the system and also on some luck   .

also there are games that i think more rigged than the other like for example when i play plinko i notice that  i always loose and its pretty impossible to hit higher payouts as when compare to when i play other gambling games   .


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Maotezi on December 24, 2019, 07:53:21 PM
poker is a game that requires skill right ? so you might be right with that  . you can win more oftenly as long as you have some good experience on playing on it  while other games on the list only rely on the system and also on some luck   .

also there are games that i think more rigged than the other like for example when i play plinko i notice that  i always loose and its pretty impossible to hit higher payouts as when compare to when i play other gambling games   .

Okay, maybe poker isn't just about the skill, but for the most part, yes. Tickets may not be in your favor.
Experience certainly helps in gambling.
If games are going to damage the casino, if you make a profit, such games are by the system, and certainly not fair enough, they are already made for the casino to receive money.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: panjul07 on December 25, 2019, 05:43:43 AM
also there are games that i think more rigged than the other like for example when i play plinko i notice that  i always loose and its pretty impossible to hit higher payouts as when compare to when i play other gambling games   .

Are you trying to say that any games where you get more losses is a rigged game although the game uses real provably fair system?
On the other side, you'll say a game is fair where you get more wins although the game is not using provably fair system?
Hitting big payout is not impossible but indeed it is rare to happen since the winning chance is so low but it does not mean that the game is rigged.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: imstillthebest on December 25, 2019, 06:02:42 AM
it will depend on the site because every gambling site has a different fairness  .

 you know how poker works but does not mean that you know that is already fair  . still  ,you wont know if what is running behind the site or thier script    . and what do you mean by asking stake and winnings ?  you mean it shows about how much is the max winning and max bet  ? that is normal and some sites ask that because that is only thier bankroll capacity  .


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Barbut on December 25, 2019, 07:36:04 AM
There is no fair in gambling, someone needs to be on the losing end, you or the casino! In poker, it's you or someone else! It's gambling, sometimes I lose at 97% chances to win, couple times, and in poker, I have better cards but the river card ruin me and I lose! It's gambling, to me that wasn't fair, for the winner it was.
I never blame the system, sometimes I win despite odds. Depend on which end you are, winning or losing, that is what you feel about fairness of the system.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Ucy on December 25, 2019, 08:15:58 AM
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If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?

I like the provably fair of Plinko in Luckyb.it and i will explain why...

The bet result comes from the bitcoin transaction and the secret key

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<tx_id>:<vout_id>:<secret_key>

As they explain in their site:

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<tx_id> is the transaction id of your bet as assigned by your wallet. (This data is controlled by you.)

<vout_id> is the rank of the output of your bet within the transaction's list of outputs. (Rank starts at 0 and is controlled by you.) This produces different lucky moves for each bet if you play several bets within a single transaction.

<secret_key> is the secret key of the day. It is unknown to you at the time of playing, but the hashes of all keys have been are published in advance, so nobody can modify these keys. The day of your bet is determined by the moment LuckyBit receives your bet's transaction. (Typically 1 to 10 seconds after you sent it.)

From the hash of <tx_id>:<vout_id>:<secret_key>, LuckyBit takes the binary representation of the last 2 bytes and read it from the left side. The bits determine your lucky moves: A 1 translates to a right move, a 0 to a left move. For instance, if the hexadecimal hash ends with ffff, your coin would always go right as the binary string would contain sixteen 1 and no 0

I haven't see another PF engine like this, and i love how the bet result comes from the TX id.

Is this another kind of provable fair or something? Probably new kind of provable fair? So, no need for typical provable fair practices in this case if this can produce thesame or better results? I wonder if luckybit is the only betting site with this kind of fair practice.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: ralle14 on December 25, 2019, 08:41:42 AM
also there are games that i think more rigged than the other like for example when i play plinko i notice that  i always loose and its pretty impossible to hit higher payouts as when compare to when i play other gambling games   .
Hitting the higher payouts on plinko takes a lot of bets, just because you lose most of the time doesn't mean it's rigged since most plinko games would let you verify its fairness. If you're losing too much on plinko compared to the other games then you need to use a different strategy because you might be spending too much of your bankroll on each bet.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: suzanne5223 on December 25, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
All the games are fair. Casinos win any, when you lose and with house on every bet won :)
I supported what you said about all casino games to be fair and what gamblers need to be sure of the site honesty in terms of not cheating with their game results.


There is no fair in gambling, someone needs to be on the losing end, you or the casino! In poker, it's you or someone else! It's gambling, sometimes I lose at 97% chances to win, couple times, and in poker, I have better cards but the river card ruin me and I lose! It's gambling, to me that wasn't fair, for the winner it was.
I never blame the system, sometimes I win despite odds. Depend on which end you are, winning or losing, that is what you feel about fairness of the system.
Honestly, there's fair in gambling buddy because for we all know what the house edge is and the chance of winning in gambling which you have already stated it. However, the last time checked gambling is a game of and shouldn't be see as a quick to rich scheme.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: swogerino on December 25, 2019, 11:05:43 AM
I think it is poker and sport betting because these games are not programmed by some software AI like slots and dice are.You remove the house edge in these games and replace it with your skills,not 100% but a big part of being able to win in poker is heavily from someone skill level.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Webetcoins on December 25, 2019, 03:33:26 PM
hard to say, all the games are fair depending on where you play because every gambling site there must be a "trick" from the devs, the casino game that I like and personally I think fair is roulette. Other people might disagree with me. another reason maybe because I currently make a lot of profit from roulette games. so that's my opinion for the whole casino game.
I think it's better to play against human instead of bots/computer because they were too advance and wise that the average human could calculate what is their next move. Every casino is fair though but not the game that is computer generated machine. Overall I agree the top posts that no matter where you are playing if the intention of the casino is not pure it's always not fair.

Against human but if you do it online then there is no guarantees that the game is fair. You wont even know that your opponent is real player or just a bot that act like real player. Even worst this bot can come from the site itself. Fair or not is still related to the system of the game not based on who you play against with.
If you play game on some of the best online casinos, you would not have such concerns that whether a bot is playing against with you or some real man is there. I am recommending you few great online casinos which can change your perspective. Captain spins, casino gods, Mr. Play and PLAYOJO are few of the amazing online casinos with maximum bonuses and free spins. Playing on these sites ensure fair plays.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: DoublerHunter on December 25, 2019, 04:22:33 PM
I think it is poker and sport betting because these games are not programmed by some software AI like slots and dice are.You remove the house edge in these games and replace it with your skills,not 100% but a big part of being able to win in poker is heavily from someone skill level.
^ It will depend on poker feature, I believed on P2P poker 99% is probably fair but if you are playing against the bot I will not consider it is fair enough. A provably fair algorithm is good if the verify seed was there and it was publicly seen by the players that were considered for me a fair online casino. And yes, sports betting is totally fair because the result was of the game will depend on the team matches. And that is not manipulated, because that is a pure based on skills game.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: el kaka22 on December 25, 2019, 05:30:56 PM
I can agree that sports betting could be one of the most "provably fair" gaming out there if you are a third party who do not know anything about sports but unfortunately there are some shady stuff going on in football world as well, you never know if the players will play their hardest or they sold the game beforehand?

Just a decade or so ago we have seen Juventus dropping a league or two for the bribery and match selling etc etc stuff that was illegal (was it Juventus or another Serie A team?) and we have seen same from Turkey and probably there are examples all around the world.

Poker on the other hand once again could be very provably fair because it is person to person and the house has no say in it but you don't know if house is playing against you and watching your hands? So in the end, if dice is really provably fair, and I mean really technologically sound proof provably fair, that is the best fair one.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: sweetbet on December 26, 2019, 05:10:09 AM
I think that Slots is most likely the most fair game, especially since it uses a RNG (Random Number Generator) but then again, dodgy online casinos can rig any game in favor of the casino.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: bitcoin31 on December 26, 2019, 09:39:12 AM
It depends of what you think is the most fair game in the online casino usually I play dice game and slots and I think it is fair but depends also to the gambling site you play because sometimes the games will fair if the site is legit also. But it is only what I think and I do not know what the others think.  But because it is a system we don't know if the creators of the game have technique so they have advantage against the player.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on December 26, 2019, 01:04:21 PM
I think its poker, your playing with another gambler so basically you both have the same percentage of winning. I mean, there is no majority of who will win coming from the online casino. It all depends on luck and skill, how you handle your card and nothing more.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: EdenHazard on December 26, 2019, 01:25:56 PM
I can agree that sports betting could be one of the most "provably fair" gaming out there if you are a third party who do not know anything about sports but unfortunately there are some shady stuff going on in football world as well, you never know if the players will play their hardest or they sold the game beforehand?

Just a decade or so ago we have seen Juventus dropping a league or two for the bribery and match selling etc etc stuff that was illegal (was it Juventus or another Serie A team?) and we have seen same from Turkey and probably there are examples all around the world.

Poker on the other hand once again could be very provably fair because it is person to person and the house has no say in it but you don't know if house is playing against you and watching your hands? So in the end, if dice is really provably fair, and I mean really technologically sound proof provably fair, that is the best fair one.
Basically any games that makes you happy and win would always considered as fair lol. You know why.... people tend to feel frustrated when they found they are not lucky enough to win and looking for something to blame on. Just like when you play FIFA on xbox and you've got beaten by your friends and start blaming the joysticks , the players , the tv and even the virgin status they had lol.

On a serious note , sports betting has a better chance for most people to consider it as the most fair despite there's a fixing match issues that actually quite often found around the globe especially in asia region.
Poker and any other pvp games are counted too on my most fair games list.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: owengtam09 on December 26, 2019, 03:13:41 PM
For me, all of the games are fair in online casinos, is just that, if we lose when we are playing gambling online then the house always wins. No one will win exept for the house. I love dice games becsuse it is easy and has a fast result of your game.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: slaman29 on December 26, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
All games are equally fair if the house edge is expressed properly and if all of them are provably fair.

No use to say 0% lottery edge is more fair than 1% dice edge unless you as a player on your own can prove and verify that your own bet outcomes were fair without relying on anyone else.

P2P is probably the most fair with smart contracts, I would say.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: sheenshane on December 26, 2019, 04:41:48 PM
On my own, I voted poker gambling. Because you have an opponent when you are playing poker and most likely it is peer-to-peer online gambling site and only the gambling site is a third party or an escrow.

I saw a website that offers its service of certified fair services, a fairness audit, RTP(Return to Player) certification, RNG(Random Number Generator) certification, Dispute resolution, and Software integrity. Check it here, Certified Fair Gambling (https://certifiedfairgambling.com/). You know it's fair if it's a Certified Fair!


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: shield132 on December 26, 2019, 08:01:23 PM
As far as I see the term fairbis misused there and OP calls gamed word "fair" according to higher chance of win. In overall everything depende on website, on trustworthy and popular websites all games are fair.
OP poker just gives you higher control on your movements and you aren't fully dependant on cards, sometimes your opponent may have higher cards but none of them matches shown 5 card but you act like boom, my cards came and bet high stake, this is called bluffing and is like a skill in poker that gives you advantage over others.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Duzter on December 27, 2019, 04:57:48 AM
Most of my spendings were on dice. From my experience playing dice I find it to be fair. At times when I loss continuously my mind never accepts that the rolls were fair, but later myself user to get consoled. Whether it is truly fair or not, if we're lucky we'll get a winning even with the unfair games.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Bitinity on December 27, 2019, 08:25:32 AM
Most of my spendings were on dice. From my experience playing dice I find it to be fair. At times when I loss continuously my mind never accepts that the rolls were fair, but later myself user to get consoled. Whether it is truly fair or not, if we're lucky we'll get a winning even with the unfair games.

In other words you are trying to say that it does not matter where you play whether the game is fair or not, arent you? As what I understand is that the most important thing for you is luck and you dont care about the fairness of the game. I have no ideas why do you think like that, if the game is not fair then how can luck come to you because your luck can be busted by the admin/owner of the site by changing the result of your game?


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: peter0425 on December 27, 2019, 08:31:40 AM
Most of my spendings were on dice. From my experience playing dice I find it to be fair. At times when I loss continuously my mind never accepts that the rolls were fair, but later myself user to get consoled. Whether it is truly fair or not, if we're lucky we'll get a winning even with the unfair games.
when you are in continues losing then better find it not fair and get another game,there are too many gambling games in every sites so maybe your luck wasnt for dice.i also love dice but i don't spend all of my time and money in this game instead i try to get games in which will fit my luck each time i played.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Ucy on December 27, 2019, 08:52:24 AM
Most of my spendings were on dice. From my experience playing dice I find it to be fair. At times when I loss continuously my mind never accepts that the rolls were fair, but later myself user to get consoled. Whether it is truly fair or not, if we're lucky we'll get a winning even with the unfair games.

In other words you are trying to say that it does not matter where you play whether the game is fair or not, arent you? As what I understand is that the most important thing for you is luck and you dont care about the fairness of the game. I have no ideas why do you think like that, if the game is not fair then how can luck come to you because your luck can be busted by the admin/owner of the site by changing the result of your game?


The poster probably did not think through his comment. I guess he believes in accepting defeat whether he is cheated or not. This mindset could encourage the spread of unfair ones and probably reduce the importance of using provable fair system.
If he discovers an unfair one, the appropriate thing to do in that case, is to warn others, avoid it/similar ones and use the fair ones.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Capt00 on December 27, 2019, 11:34:50 AM
If that gambling site is legit, I don't say anything that they are not fair enough. We put our bets cause we know that they can be trusted and all the results aren't played by someone else nor it is just manipulated.  If we couldn't find any suspicious and questionable winnings, then we can conclude that they abide by the rules of gambling.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: rodskee on December 27, 2019, 01:42:13 PM
If that gambling site is legit, I don't say anything that they are not fair enough. We put our bets cause we know that they can be trusted and all the results aren't played by someone else nor it is just manipulated.  If we couldn't find any suspicious and questionable winnings, then we can conclude that they abide by the rules of gambling.
that is not the way OP asked us mate,what he wanted to hear is what game is fair in terms of bringing winnings to all of us.
and that is not the casino itself but the games we played.so what you say is different thing.



for me?i think it is poker,because if we knew the game we can be assure that there is no manipulation happening from the game developer and to the players.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: DoublerHunter on December 27, 2019, 02:31:38 PM
for me?i think it is poker,because if we knew the game we can be assure that there is no manipulation happening from the game developer and to the players.
^ But it will depend on the feature has, if that is not a p2p service in poker gambling I will not trust the system they had because that might be manipulated. Mostly, they claim that they are P2P poker gambling sites but the fact they are using a bot that in favor of their site and we thought that is a real online poker player. Nevertheless, probably betting in sports is a good and obviously can't be manipulated.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Bitcoinislife09 on December 27, 2019, 02:52:46 PM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?
I think all of the game was fair since you are not the only one playing on the website I think the game could be fair. But also it depend on the websites you are playing sometimes the algorithms of a scam websites are just to scam people and you could always end up losing your money. But I think with this kind of game it is safe to say that they are all fair enough.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: vintages on December 27, 2019, 08:18:08 PM
If that gambling site is legit, I don't say anything that they are not fair enough. We put our bets cause we know that they can be trusted and all the results aren't played by someone else nor it is just manipulated.  If we couldn't find any suspicious and questionable winnings, then we can conclude that they abide by the rules of gambling.

Questionable winnings? Isn't that what most gamblers want? Where they can always win?  ;D

Anyway, what you said is right. It doesn't matter about the game in particular, what should be the main concern is how legit the casino owners are. Cause a game can be plain but manipulated by casino owners to alter winnings.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: notblox1 on December 27, 2019, 11:28:59 PM
It all depends how fair casino is.
We see many casinos that pretend to be fair but they have some hidden algorithm that always benefits them.
I don't think dice is most fair, but voting so far suggest that.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: bobyhodob on December 28, 2019, 04:57:19 AM
All casino games never give you 100% good deal with fair
But you can choice what site you can play casino games there Many casino sites but not all provide an explanation of the fairness of gamblers and dealers
Again I must say that this is a very promising industry and many people are trying to make a trusted place.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: theskillzdatklls on December 28, 2019, 06:18:52 AM
As a former professional poker player, I can tell you pretty much matter of factly that poker is not the fairest on that list. It may give you the best chance at making real money on that list if you are good enough, but it isn't the fairest. No provably fair poker exists to my knowledge, you don't know if people are colluding against you, you don't know if people are super using against you with absolute certainty.

The fairest online casino games are probably those with the lowest house edge and provably fair technology... along with a good reputation for paying out and that kind of thing. Probably most notably are going to be the standard Bitcoin dice games. Given those conditions, that's about as "fair" as you could ask for and doesn't have all those stipulations like I just talked about with poker.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: l3pox on December 28, 2019, 06:13:29 PM
imho we shouldn't even includepoker in this list.
poker is not a gambling game but a strategy and skill game

of course, you canplay it as a gambler.
but you can also study, pratice and master it.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Aikidoka on December 28, 2019, 06:19:46 PM
I think the most fair games in Online Casino are sports betting, as we know you'll not be scammed at all if the games goes as you predict, it's really so good to make some bets on football or any other sports games if you have some knowledge about the teams.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: pakhitheboss on December 28, 2019, 07:39:30 PM
I feel the most fair is dice and crash. I am a dice lover and have played it on probably fair website like stake and windice and felt it as one of the most fair online casino game.

It is a game of high luck and chance which means it falls under the category of fair. The house cannot cheat niether can you.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Ailmand on December 29, 2019, 01:21:49 PM
Most people look for provably fair system in online casino, however for players like me who can't verify hash, we can't really verify if it is really fair or not. I think most trusted site is fair in regard to their games. Most people prefer dice and poker in gambling.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Ararbermas on December 29, 2019, 02:42:29 PM
For me there's no fair with gambling casino's since you have no idea and clue's what has a potential in the next result just to increase your winning strategy. I mean its not the same with gambling predictions such soccer and etc.  Wherein they letting you see what are the possibilities to happen in the future and the chance of winning is higher because you are able to view the past game of every team and you are able to accumulate ideas  in just easy ways.  So online casino is very unfair than other gambling games.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 01, 2020, 08:13:25 AM
OP is making a wrong statement that the fairness depends on the game. It does not. It depends on the algorithm that the site uses to generate its rolls. Now with most of reputed sites out there nobody would even dare to create a falwed fairness system because they would be shunned in this forum being the biggest place to get information about cryptocurrency casinos.

But there are the occasional scam casinos but they are silenced quickly.

Back at the OP's question, you can verify every rolls of a EV- game. Keep poker and sports betting away from this because these are PvP games and thus EV+, if they are computer played then there would be a fairness system but not for playing against other players.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Yatsan on January 01, 2020, 02:52:23 PM
All of that game are fair to their player 100%. The question should be what is the most trusted website that are running those games.

Trusted casinos are easy to find here in the forum. Basically, they are the longest-running casino here and the one that is hosting the longest-running signature campaign here. The fairness of the game depends on the code or algorithm. So basically, if one website manipulates its code and makes the code in favor of them. The fairness of the game is going to drop. In conclusion, all of that game is fair if the website that is running it is trusted.

All of these games are fair because, in order to win, you need pure luck and high chance. When we're talking about online casinos, I think it depends on the algorithm they've made in order to produce a gambling game.

In modern technology, we can now implement things with AI, so probably the casino will always win. They will create an algorithm that will make you realize it's being fair but in reality, it will just get your money until the end. That's the use of AI with good algorithms, they will not create a casino that is in favor with the users.

I know there are certification that are proving your bot or algorithm is fair or not just like this:

https://itechlabs.com/certificates/act/RNG_Certificate_UK_ACT_c_11Dec19.pdf

I think if you try to make those kind of algorithm it will just ruin your website's reputation and there will be no player that is going to play with it. In reality, those kind's of website just have a little amount of time before someone is going to know what they are doing and they will be immediately labeled as a scam website.

There's a lot of bitcoin casino's here in forum that is actually trusted and they are running their casino for a long amount of time. Just pick the right one and you will be alright.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: AniviaBtc on January 01, 2020, 04:02:04 PM
Most of my spendings were on dice. From my experience playing dice I find it to be fair. At times when I loss continuously my mind never accepts that the rolls were fair, but later myself user to get consoled. Whether it is truly fair or not, if we're lucky we'll get a winning even with the unfair games.

In other words you are trying to say that it does not matter where you play whether the game is fair or not, arent you? As what I understand is that the most important thing for you is luck and you dont care about the fairness of the game. I have no ideas why do you think like that, if the game is not fair then how can luck come to you because your luck can be busted by the admin/owner of the site by changing the result of your game?


That's the reality, there's no pattern to follow when it comes to gambling. All of those games are programmed randomly so that everyone will play fairly and for the safety of all players. Your luck is still the one who will dictate your fate in playing online casino. Luck is the essential thing in gambling, that will help you to win more money.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Pinkris128 on January 01, 2020, 04:21:25 PM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?
In my own opinion, every games in a online casinos seems fair to me and trusted. As long, you are playing in a trusted online casino you are losing and winning to it fairly without any doubts because there will be no players to play in a certain online casino if the game is not fair enough. Every games are also programmed randomly which there are no certain order that you will lose or win in a game, it is really depends on your luck if you will win or lose just like at the real casino.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Skarner21 on January 01, 2020, 04:21:53 PM
That's the reality, there's no pattern to follow when it comes to gambling. All of those games are programmed randomly so that everyone will play fairly and for the safety of all players. Your luck is still the one who will dictate your fate in playing online casino. Luck is the essential thing in gambling, that will help you to win more money.
If you are playing on any program casino and all players and dealers are computer there's no way to defeat them because we don't know if they are actually fair or not.

Unlike real casino and live casino that I'm sure they are fair compared to program casino games.
Everything in gambling are always depends in your luck so if you are not lucky then you will lose and also if you are greedy and you are not satisfied on the amount you win then you will still lose it in the end unless if you win again in your last bet and you decided to withdraw we can consider it as a win.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: Betwrong on January 01, 2020, 06:09:16 PM
Not to mention, we're talking about a game where the online site that has the most far play.
In my opinion, it's poker, because it's a game I know and the site doesn't ask so much about your stake and winnings, that's reason enough for the site not to steal from you.
The site may give you bad tickets, but again it knows whether or not to get one.

If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?
The question is wrongly framed. A reputed site can make every game fair while a scammy site can be unfair on all the games. Poker can be easily cheated really!Imagine a site that promises live deals on Poker and just uses bots instead? How'd you verify any of that?

Bots are easily outplayed after 30-40 minutes of studying their behavior. A friend of mine opened a poker site 3 years ago, installed bots, and, being not a cheater, told potential players their names. What happened next was he lost thousands of USD over the course of few months, and closed the site. (He could lose more but the bots were playing on low stakes only). So, I think poker bots constitute more of a problem for the site owners than for the users.



I agree with the posters who say that the game itself doesn't matter in regards to fairness. What matters is how the outcomes are obtained. You can make absolutely any game either fair or unfair, depending on the algorithm behind it.


Title: Re: Which game is most fair in Online Casino.
Post by: trickshot22 on January 01, 2020, 10:51:18 PM
All the games are free if the gambling site is fair, otherwise the games you've mentioned will not be available until now. So far, most votes are on dice, well, I understand that people can check the seed and they can check if it's fair or not, and there have been a lot of dice sites in the crypto space so people are playing more dice games because they have more faith in them. If you really want to play, just forget about it.