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Question: Which game is most fair in Online Casino:
Roulette - 2 (7.4%)
Dice - 10 (37%)
Flipcoin - 1 (3.7%)
BlackJack - 3 (11.1%)
LuckySix - 0 (0%)
Slot - 1 (3.7%)
Poker - 7 (25.9%)
Others - 3 (11.1%)
Total Voters: 27

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December 24, 2019, 08:03:31 AM
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poker is a game that requires skill right ? so you might be right with that  . you can win more oftenly as long as you have some good experience on playing on it  while other games on the list only rely on the system and also on some luck   .

also there are games that i think more rigged than the other like for example when i play plinko i notice that  i always loose and its pretty impossible to hit higher payouts as when compare to when i play other gambling games   .
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December 24, 2019, 07:53:21 PM
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poker is a game that requires skill right ? so you might be right with that  . you can win more oftenly as long as you have some good experience on playing on it  while other games on the list only rely on the system and also on some luck   .

also there are games that i think more rigged than the other like for example when i play plinko i notice that  i always loose and its pretty impossible to hit higher payouts as when compare to when i play other gambling games   .

Okay, maybe poker isn't just about the skill, but for the most part, yes. Tickets may not be in your favor.
Experience certainly helps in gambling.
If games are going to damage the casino, if you make a profit, such games are by the system, and certainly not fair enough, they are already made for the casino to receive money.
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December 25, 2019, 05:43:43 AM
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also there are games that i think more rigged than the other like for example when i play plinko i notice that  i always loose and its pretty impossible to hit higher payouts as when compare to when i play other gambling games   .

Are you trying to say that any games where you get more losses is a rigged game although the game uses real provably fair system?
On the other side, you'll say a game is fair where you get more wins although the game is not using provably fair system?
Hitting big payout is not impossible but indeed it is rare to happen since the winning chance is so low but it does not mean that the game is rigged.

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December 25, 2019, 06:02:42 AM
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it will depend on the site because every gambling site has a different fairness  .

 you know how poker works but does not mean that you know that is already fair  . still  ,you wont know if what is running behind the site or thier script    . and what do you mean by asking stake and winnings ?  you mean it shows about how much is the max winning and max bet  ? that is normal and some sites ask that because that is only thier bankroll capacity  .
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December 25, 2019, 07:36:04 AM
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There is no fair in gambling, someone needs to be on the losing end, you or the casino! In poker, it's you or someone else! It's gambling, sometimes I lose at 97% chances to win, couple times, and in poker, I have better cards but the river card ruin me and I lose! It's gambling, to me that wasn't fair, for the winner it was.
I never blame the system, sometimes I win despite odds. Depend on which end you are, winning or losing, that is what you feel about fairness of the system.



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December 25, 2019, 08:15:58 AM
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If sellcted others, clarify which game and why?

I like the provably fair of Plinko in Luckyb.it and i will explain why...

The bet result comes from the bitcoin transaction and the secret key

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<tx_id> is the transaction id of your bet as assigned by your wallet. (This data is controlled by you.)

<vout_id> is the rank of the output of your bet within the transaction's list of outputs. (Rank starts at 0 and is controlled by you.) This produces different lucky moves for each bet if you play several bets within a single transaction.

<secret_key> is the secret key of the day. It is unknown to you at the time of playing, but the hashes of all keys have been are published in advance, so nobody can modify these keys. The day of your bet is determined by the moment LuckyBit receives your bet's transaction. (Typically 1 to 10 seconds after you sent it.)

From the hash of <tx_id>:<vout_id>:<secret_key>, LuckyBit takes the binary representation of the last 2 bytes and read it from the left side. The bits determine your lucky moves: A 1 translates to a right move, a 0 to a left move. For instance, if the hexadecimal hash ends with ffff, your coin would always go right as the binary string would contain sixteen 1 and no 0

I haven't see another PF engine like this, and i love how the bet result comes from the TX id.

Is this another kind of provable fair or something? Probably new kind of provable fair? So, no need for typical provable fair practices in this case if this can produce thesame or better results? I wonder if luckybit is the only betting site with this kind of fair practice.
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December 25, 2019, 08:41:42 AM
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also there are games that i think more rigged than the other like for example when i play plinko i notice that  i always loose and its pretty impossible to hit higher payouts as when compare to when i play other gambling games   .
Hitting the higher payouts on plinko takes a lot of bets, just because you lose most of the time doesn't mean it's rigged since most plinko games would let you verify its fairness. If you're losing too much on plinko compared to the other games then you need to use a different strategy because you might be spending too much of your bankroll on each bet.

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December 25, 2019, 08:45:24 AM
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All the games are fair. Casinos win any, when you lose and with house on every bet won Smiley
I supported what you said about all casino games to be fair and what gamblers need to be sure of the site honesty in terms of not cheating with their game results.


There is no fair in gambling, someone needs to be on the losing end, you or the casino! In poker, it's you or someone else! It's gambling, sometimes I lose at 97% chances to win, couple times, and in poker, I have better cards but the river card ruin me and I lose! It's gambling, to me that wasn't fair, for the winner it was.
I never blame the system, sometimes I win despite odds. Depend on which end you are, winning or losing, that is what you feel about fairness of the system.
Honestly, there's fair in gambling buddy because for we all know what the house edge is and the chance of winning in gambling which you have already stated it. However, the last time checked gambling is a game of and shouldn't be see as a quick to rich scheme.

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December 25, 2019, 11:05:43 AM
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I think it is poker and sport betting because these games are not programmed by some software AI like slots and dice are.You remove the house edge in these games and replace it with your skills,not 100% but a big part of being able to win in poker is heavily from someone skill level.

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December 25, 2019, 03:33:26 PM
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hard to say, all the games are fair depending on where you play because every gambling site there must be a "trick" from the devs, the casino game that I like and personally I think fair is roulette. Other people might disagree with me. another reason maybe because I currently make a lot of profit from roulette games. so that's my opinion for the whole casino game.
I think it's better to play against human instead of bots/computer because they were too advance and wise that the average human could calculate what is their next move. Every casino is fair though but not the game that is computer generated machine. Overall I agree the top posts that no matter where you are playing if the intention of the casino is not pure it's always not fair.

Against human but if you do it online then there is no guarantees that the game is fair. You wont even know that your opponent is real player or just a bot that act like real player. Even worst this bot can come from the site itself. Fair or not is still related to the system of the game not based on who you play against with.
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December 25, 2019, 04:22:33 PM
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I think it is poker and sport betting because these games are not programmed by some software AI like slots and dice are.You remove the house edge in these games and replace it with your skills,not 100% but a big part of being able to win in poker is heavily from someone skill level.
^ It will depend on poker feature, I believed on P2P poker 99% is probably fair but if you are playing against the bot I will not consider it is fair enough. A provably fair algorithm is good if the verify seed was there and it was publicly seen by the players that were considered for me a fair online casino. And yes, sports betting is totally fair because the result was of the game will depend on the team matches. And that is not manipulated, because that is a pure based on skills game.
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December 25, 2019, 05:30:56 PM
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I can agree that sports betting could be one of the most "provably fair" gaming out there if you are a third party who do not know anything about sports but unfortunately there are some shady stuff going on in football world as well, you never know if the players will play their hardest or they sold the game beforehand?

Just a decade or so ago we have seen Juventus dropping a league or two for the bribery and match selling etc etc stuff that was illegal (was it Juventus or another Serie A team?) and we have seen same from Turkey and probably there are examples all around the world.

Poker on the other hand once again could be very provably fair because it is person to person and the house has no say in it but you don't know if house is playing against you and watching your hands? So in the end, if dice is really provably fair, and I mean really technologically sound proof provably fair, that is the best fair one.

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December 26, 2019, 05:10:09 AM
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I think that Slots is most likely the most fair game, especially since it uses a RNG (Random Number Generator) but then again, dodgy online casinos can rig any game in favor of the casino.

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December 26, 2019, 09:39:12 AM
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It depends of what you think is the most fair game in the online casino usually I play dice game and slots and I think it is fair but depends also to the gambling site you play because sometimes the games will fair if the site is legit also. But it is only what I think and I do not know what the others think.  But because it is a system we don't know if the creators of the game have technique so they have advantage against the player.
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December 26, 2019, 01:04:21 PM
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I think its poker, your playing with another gambler so basically you both have the same percentage of winning. I mean, there is no majority of who will win coming from the online casino. It all depends on luck and skill, how you handle your card and nothing more.


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December 26, 2019, 01:25:56 PM
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I can agree that sports betting could be one of the most "provably fair" gaming out there if you are a third party who do not know anything about sports but unfortunately there are some shady stuff going on in football world as well, you never know if the players will play their hardest or they sold the game beforehand?

Just a decade or so ago we have seen Juventus dropping a league or two for the bribery and match selling etc etc stuff that was illegal (was it Juventus or another Serie A team?) and we have seen same from Turkey and probably there are examples all around the world.

Poker on the other hand once again could be very provably fair because it is person to person and the house has no say in it but you don't know if house is playing against you and watching your hands? So in the end, if dice is really provably fair, and I mean really technologically sound proof provably fair, that is the best fair one.
Basically any games that makes you happy and win would always considered as fair lol. You know why.... people tend to feel frustrated when they found they are not lucky enough to win and looking for something to blame on. Just like when you play FIFA on xbox and you've got beaten by your friends and start blaming the joysticks , the players , the tv and even the virgin status they had lol.

On a serious note , sports betting has a better chance for most people to consider it as the most fair despite there's a fixing match issues that actually quite often found around the globe especially in asia region.
Poker and any other pvp games are counted too on my most fair games list.

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December 26, 2019, 03:13:41 PM
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For me, all of the games are fair in online casinos, is just that, if we lose when we are playing gambling online then the house always wins. No one will win exept for the house. I love dice games becsuse it is easy and has a fast result of your game.
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December 26, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
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All games are equally fair if the house edge is expressed properly and if all of them are provably fair.

No use to say 0% lottery edge is more fair than 1% dice edge unless you as a player on your own can prove and verify that your own bet outcomes were fair without relying on anyone else.

P2P is probably the most fair with smart contracts, I would say.

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December 26, 2019, 04:41:48 PM
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On my own, I voted poker gambling. Because you have an opponent when you are playing poker and most likely it is peer-to-peer online gambling site and only the gambling site is a third party or an escrow.

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December 26, 2019, 08:01:23 PM
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As far as I see the term fairbis misused there and OP calls gamed word "fair" according to higher chance of win. In overall everything depende on website, on trustworthy and popular websites all games are fair.
OP poker just gives you higher control on your movements and you aren't fully dependant on cards, sometimes your opponent may have higher cards but none of them matches shown 5 card but you act like boom, my cards came and bet high stake, this is called bluffing and is like a skill in poker that gives you advantage over others.

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