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As the case against kleiman progresses, Craig Wright produced a list of addresses that supposedly contains 1.1 million bitcoins as evidence in front of the judge, the coins mined together by Craig and Kleiman on the initial stage of Bitcoin.
https://u.today/craig-wright-provides-list-of-16404-bitcoin-btc-addresses-that-contain-95-bln-is-he-real-satoshi?amp

Doesn't prove crap. Addresses, along with how much bitcoin are in them, are completely public anyway. Wouldn't be farfetched to think that they simply just checked the bitcoin rich list and just picked certain addresses.

And by the way, here's one of the addresses I own: 3M6UcBNGZAW1HRjiFDMRcY5aXFrQ4F9E1y :)

Definitely not Binance's cold wallet address. 100% mine, zero doubt at all. :) :)

giong to a website like this: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html and copying a bunch of addresses from there into a text doesn't make that person Satoshi. anybody can do that since bitcoin blockchain is a public ledger :)
if he owned even a single output worth a Satoshi dated in early years i am sure he would have already shown in back when he was publicly ridiculed for trying to forge a signature...

Until he signs a message from those addresses,  that proves nothing.

A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.

Not that I am a fan of Vitalik but he once said something which was more or less like this, There are two ways of proving something. A noisy way and an easy way. Craig always choose the noisy way because he really do not have anything to back him up.

To prove I am me, a known BTC address of me is enough or if I have a PGP finger print then that's enough. No one needs to see how much bitcoin I have.

How many more times we will talk about this BS from Craig?

I've heard on Twitter, that BSV is going to go a sort of "rollback" to an older codebase of BSV and probably some alterations here and there, for Craig Wright to be able to gain access to Satoshi's bitcoins or something(edit for clarity: of course I meant BSV, the forked bitcoins). Haven't checked on this BSV "genesis upgrade" though so don't take my word for it; could possibly just BS.

Did satoshi really have about 16,404 BTC addresses?

AFAIK there are only few of them that were identified which has a lot of BTC on it from the genesis.


Amazing that they think Wright can provide proof which is why BSV pumped so much up to 100% yesterday. Its possible that BSV would plummet if he can't sign message to the wallet from the proven wallet of Satoshi.

He's stalling. These 16,000 addresses prove absolutely nothing since anyone can compile a list of early address from the publicly viewable blockchain. However, it will take a while for the judge and other parties to examine a list of 16,000 addresses, giving CSW plenty of time to come up a reason as to why he was able to unlock the file, but only access the addresses and not the private keys.

Prediction: In amongst those 16,000 addresses, there will be one or two addresses he does own with a couple of bitcoin in them from the early days of bitcoin. He will sign a message from one of those or move a few sats and claim it to be proof of Satoshi. Then the BSV shills will pump this trash again.

Not satoshi's bitcoins, but satoshi's BSVs lol
That still don't prove nothing. He must prove to own satoshis btc,  not bsvs.

If he submitted those details in court and if he really lied then he will be facing jail time for the actions, lying in court is not a comical thing, everyone can sit behind a pseudo and tell what ever we like as there is no consequences in social media and if he is proven a lair then that alias will not be trusted further but you will not go behind bars but that is not the case with lying in court, it has serious consequences and a few more days and we will see how the story unfolds.

It was more than enough to fuel enormous pump.

Hard to say.
There's no definitive evidence which early addresses were satoshi's.
It's safe to assume, though, that many of the addresses created in 2009 were his/hers.
With on the order of 80,000 addresses created in 2009 in total, the chance of any one single address being his/hers isn't actually very high.
The "guesstimate" of a million BTC being satoshi's comes from Sergio Demian Lerner's research (https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/).

And BTW: CSW is an imposter, fraud, identity thief and desecrator of Kleiman's grave.

CSW? The identity thief? Lie in court!? Surely not! ::)

Unfortunately it will take much longer than that. For all the things CSW isn't, he is good at spinning web upon web of lies that takes weeks or months for the courts to work through. Just when a deadline approaches, he pulls a new stunt (such as submitting 16,000 addresses which prove absolutely nothing) to delay things further.

BSV shills aren't exactly the most intelligent people. They've had CSW lie to their faces for years and yet they still swallow whatever word salad he serves them next.

That is not considered evidence. Anyone can provide similar information in front of the judge. And if he can sign a message with those addresses then maybe it will be passed. But I believe he will never do it because he doesn't own it, it's all a lie. The BSV will surely collapse within the next few days if the court asks him to sign messages like that.

Yep, I completely agree with this one. A friend of mine sent me this article (https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2020/01/15/craig-wright-bonded-courier-delivered-keys-bitcoin-stash/) today that says Craig's allegedly received the keys. According to the court's decision, he has until February 3, 2020 (so, like, 3 weeks) to unlock the wallet, as far as I understand. Now, I don't think I'll believe that Craig is Satoshi even if he opens that wallet. I could believe that Dave was Satoshi, but not this arrogant guy. However, it would make a big difference in the discussions of Craig and add significantly to his reputation, more or less establishing him as Satoshi Nakamoto. I doubt it's going to happen, but luckily we'll find out soon.

Lets be realistic, how long he can get away lying in court, the verdict will come out in a year or two and then what he will do, disappear and hide under a rock  :D. The lies in court are documented and his fate is sealed as you cannot run like that and dream that everything is fine.

The web of lies will not last longer, the verdict will be coming out within a year and he will face what he deserves if he lied as he cannot run around just like that for a long period of time. If the court is not able to come to a conclusion then they will appoint someone who is an expert and they will come to an verdict soon. Anyone with a minimum common sense will not dare Perjury as it is a serious offense in any jurisdiction. It is entertainment for the masses :D.


 

Earlier Wright had admitted that he don't have access to these coins (because he do not possess the private keys). According to him, the private keys are split in to multiple parts and held by multiple people. Wright was supposed to receive them in a "bounded courier", at some point of time in January 2020.

However, Wright is now claiming that he has indeed received the private keys through courier (as per his statement on 14th January to Federal District Judge Beth Bloom of South Florida). He has time until February 3rd to prove the same. Expect some crazy movements in the market until that date.

It worked for McAfee. Or the QuadrigaCX founder who went to India and likely faked his own death to avoid the $190 million lawsuit he faced. I'm sure CSW is holding enough BSV to dump on his followers to fund whatever escape plan he is concocting.

Yeah, your mistake there is believing the CSW has any common sense.

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Assuming that CSW has just pulled 16,000 keys from the blockchain (which he almost certainly has), what's the likelihood of at least one of the users who actually own one or more of those addresses still being active and being able to sign a message saying CSW is full of it?

I know WIPO will not allow such shady evidence like that to grant the patent claim.
Lol. Craig is just applying for a patent claim by proving that he's Satoshi Nakamoto, founder of the Bitcoin. I don't think he'll go to jail because of fake patent claims since judges don't also even know what is the real identity of Satoshi. I know he'll be f'cked up once the legit Satoshi shows up with evidences that will grant the patent claim. CW will be at risk if it happens.

Anyway, we have to wait until 3 February because it will be the final day for Craig wright to proved the proof to what he claims that 16000 bitcoin addresses he owns and fonder of bitcoins. so he can give fake statements to peoples but not in court because he knows that if the court finds he has given fake statements regarding that sure he will be at risk. but Craig wright still in the confined I can prove.

Correct. He have came up with an answer that he has no full access to those addresses. So, it's the responsibility of the wallet owners to prove him wrong.
But I don't think Craig Wright is lying this time. Dave Kleiman and Craig Wright could both be satoshi. It's admitted by both the parties that they were both involved in mining.

If he really had access to these coins he would have used it long ago as leverage in the hash wars, but no. He watched his precious BSV lost 70% value in timespan of a few months as his court case was progressing.

Craig is going to be bankrupt soon when there's no more appeals to make and they start knocking on his door demanding to pay Kleiman's family.
I feel sorry for those dumb fucks who are now buying BSV.

I expected this but didn't think it could be that soon. Craig Wright is just wasting the entire world time regarding his false reasons why he is Satoshi. These addresses prove nothing since anyone can easily get addresses that contain huge amount of Bitcoins. The entire crypto space needs more these addresses to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.

In the event that even one of those addresses stood up and came with a signed message, it would be fun to see what would Craig's reaction would be and how would he plan his cover-up. It's a great event to speculate on, moreso the fact that that would most certainly dig his own grave once and for all.


Knowing that most of the known early adopters have shifted interest, gone missing or have died ever since, anyone can claim that they have participated in the earliest mining days of bitcoin and come up with a multitude of excuses to not sign a message from an address which received the earliest known bitcoin rewards in existence. I'm pretty sure cryptographic proof is not enough for most of us here whose eyes and ears are on the case, but by providing one address for initial 'proof' can actually be substantial in gaining the trust of the community. After all, cryptographic proof can't be altered and cheated on unless of course if the address/private key has been obtained by physical means--and by that I mean violence.


It'll be extended for a few months more, trust me. CSW has been the master of his own craft: delaying tactics for what, a year or so now?

In case anyone actually believed that he's Satoshi because of the "evidence" that he made a list of the addresses with 1.1 million btc, why doesn't he just cryptographically sign a message from the addresses he just presented and get over it? Is he really expecting people to believe he owns any old address he presents?

Even if he does sign a message, that doesn't prove anything if the wallets don't belong to Satoshi.

Haha another act of faketoshi to prove he is the legitimate Satoshi Nakamoto. Anyone can provide Bitcoin address with high balance such information cannot be considered as evidence.

He would have done it long time ago, Wright is eager to prove himself to be satoshi. I don't think he can sign any of the old addresses among the thousands of addresses during that time. He would be part of the worst impostor of all time in the history that fooled the newbies in crypto. While Satoshi wanna hide, he's that one inserting himself to fame.

well , as far i know, court filing of the missing part of the private key next week , so let's see what will be happened on next week.
and for remember, wright currently stands accused of stealing half of more than one million btc mined at the beginning of the cryptocurrency's existence.

I am not following McAfee and his legal troubles but i think he is hiding somewhere from the authorities but QuadrigaCX death is a real mystery as he went of the radar if he really lied and the faked death is a conspiracy.

Whether CSW have common sense is a huge debate in itself  :D

I understand your point however we need to keep talking about it because Bitcoin SV is above 300 dollars mainly because of this, this news was probably the main reason why Bitcoin SV skyrocketed and if it turns out to be false as the majority of the informed users in the forum believe then there is going to be an important crash in that coin which is going to affect many investors.

Craig can say whatever he wants but when he begins to affect the lives of other people in such a deep way then this is not right anymore.

Right--but he's claiming he does have private keys to those addresses, so I guess it'll be interesting if he shows proof of that.  That would be amazing, in fact.

I barely recall this Florida court thing and I'm not sure what's going on there or why he has to prove ownership of all those coins.  I'm too apathetic to research it at the moment, but that article linked to in the OP was pretty interesting.  If Satoshi's identity finally gets figured out, that'll be huge.  I always thought bitcoin was created in the US for whatever reason, though I guess I have no basis to really think that.  Didn't think it originated in Australia--but I guess that remains to be seen.

Huh.  I guess I really haven't been following the drama surrounding the big-name personalities in bitcoin.  That's what I love about bitcointalk.

Just an idea: BSV will come out with a new software version that will make that "possible"*.
Since it's "the original Bitcoin", CSW claims that he in fact is satoshi.
Never underestimate the creativity of an imposter, fraudster, identity thief and desecrator of graves ::)

* of course, whatever that software will show as a signature will not be a signature in the common meaning of the word in cryptography.

Down over 11% and below $295. Wonder if there are enough BSV fans to prop it up.
The actual release of the new client, already has stupidity involved:

https://github.com/bitcoin-sv/bitcoin-sv/issues/125 (https://github.com/bitcoin-sv/bitcoin-sv/issues/125)

Oops, lets publish code that you can't verify the sig on.

The other issue is (sort of) since it does have such a low market cap, [like every alt except perhaps ETH] it is somewhat easy to manipulate for someone with deep enough pockets. But they don't have to be super deep if you want to make a profit as the tide rises.

-Dave

He has been claiming so many things since the drama started but never had any convincing proof of anything yet. Why do it needs just the private keys of the bitcoin addresses. In this forum we all know his PGP finger prints. He could just post a signed message using the PGP, can't he? There are so many ways he could chose to make things legit if he was legitimately the person he is claiming. Why he had to change the contents of the journal and stuffs from back days... [Please can anyone bring the link of the website where the website owner collected all his fraud activities please].

This drama will continue and my gut feeling is that all he is doing is just wasting everyone's time.

Careful with this line of thought. The onus is absolutely not on the wallet owners to prove they don't own those addresses. The burden of proof lies squarely with CSW to prove he does own them.

Counter point: What if someone signed a message from one of those addresses saying "The court can suck it, I'm not giving Kleiman a single satoshi." I'm not sure there's enough popcorn in the country for the fallout that would follow. :D

It's already dropping, and fast. It's already fallen 33% from the peak, which was less than 24 hours ago. Calvin and CSW will already have dumped on the poor suckers who bought in, now it's just the slow bleed out left over the next few days until the next piece of non evidence repeats the process again.

It doesn't. There's more likelihood of me being Satoshi and having amnesia about the whole thing than CSW being Satoshi.

Exactly. CSW and Calvin can buy up some BSV in advance, pump up reddit/twitter/this forum with lies about the courier arriving/private keys/court documents/whatever, once the shills are fully engaged kick off a pump with a single moderately sized buy order (since the marketcap and liquidity are so low), wait a few hours for all the idiots to FOMO in, and dump on them. Then the actual news comes out that he doesn't have private keys at all, and has submitted a list of publicly viewable addresses which anyone with an internet connection could have done. Too late by then. CSW and Calvin have taken their profits, the price is dumping, and a bunch of gullible users are left bagholding this trash coin.

@LoyceV Hide your tools or Craig Wright will come and use them to prove that he has list of first 1000 bitcointalk user or something similar.
Btw it's very funny but the funniest thing is that Craig Wright is under crypto media's attention but the worst is that he is in Hot Stories.
Well, let's mention McAfee for a while, he and Craig share a lot of things in claiming but... McAfee states that Wright was part of creating of bitcoin (https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1213845448231915525) (totally eleven people in group) but he says that Wright isn't satoshi and he knows who he is (but somehow doesn't seem to prove).
So finally I don't understand what's the aim, you can't build house with singing, you need action and this is the parallel of what Wright is doing. Anyone can provide list, his this action proves that he is joking again, jokes worse than baby and this thing is still official, it's really shame from court.

No matter what he does, CSW will remain in my eyes only as a bad guy! This proves that he is a bad guy with a lot of money nothing more!!!
He is completely trustless! I wish he was here so I can send negative trust to him!

I agree that he is cunning and knows what he is doing, its amazing
how far he has got to date and all the time his BSV grows.
I bet a lot of his "supporters" know the scam and lies he weaves,
they are just hoping for a big profit from their Beloved Shit Version of BTC

Wright is a clown and every of his next claims should be disregarded, He is just looking for very cheap publicity and had enjoy a long ride of it. He provides addresses that is already known, he cant even access any of those addresses. Sometimes I think If I was in his shoe will I really reveal those accounts, In another way all of those addresses are watched closely in case anyone accesses it.

Why is this guy still getting any attention? He can fake anything except a signed message, and that's exactly what he's doing. Faking it, until people start believing the BS.
Stop making this guy famous! Just ignore the "news".

The attention that the community is giving to CSW is favoring him, he is getting the publicity that he wants and he's taking it to the next level of just showing different addresses that can be seen by anyone publicly without anything to prove.

He can't sign a message because he doesn't own that huge amount of bitcoin. And someone from the court who understands what he's done will certainly give them laughs.

He was asked many times by many parties to sign and never did. He also was in financial trouble more than once and never moved the coins. When confronted on conferences he always run backstage. He's a clown not the real Satoshi. If you read Satoshi's messages they don't look like written by a narcissist that Craig is.

Many people say that Craig is buying time because he knows he lost the Kleiman case. If BSV pumps and Craig exits on top he'll at least have a chance to live on the run. He still won't be able to pay what he owes the Kleiman family. We're talking about a billion dollars here. Craig is done.

CW's life is really interesting as the day goes by. But he is just showing more and more fraudulent acts.
I really hope those who are buying BSV right now will not suffer losses later on.
But let us see if he can have access on those btc addresses or will he make another stunt not to proceed with this case?
He should have transferred it silently a long time ago if he has full access on that huge amount.

If this eill be the main foundation of his reasoning to be the real Satoshi, I woukd happy to see he signed all the addresses personally, includingbthe very first address to mine the first block, or else, this will be just a bait to tell the world that he has control over bitcoin which has in fact, not relying on controlling the price because that is normal. So if we are to be afraid about this, for sure, we'll be just manipulated over and over again.

Not unless he signs messages using these private keys, it doesn't mean anything. Blockchain is always transparent and the list could just be a compilation of large sums. There's no concrete proof and clearly, CSW doesn't think of what he says, and has always been seen as a liar even from the start. No wonder why his actions makes no sense most of the time, including this.

Craig Wright always finds a way to be talked about. We are now under the spell of this mad man. However annoyed we are of this man, some are even hating him for all his Satoshi impersonation attempts, we are still here talking about him.

And that can be the biggest problem with all the addresses that Craig Wright is claiming to own! His claim of ownership does not come with the private keys, so he can own them anytime he wanted to but when challenged if he can do something about the coins then maybe he will just claim to have lost the keys. This man can be feeding us garbage and in the eyes of the eager few he is salivating and satisfied that he fooled many (or so he thought). The Craig Wright saga will be continuing because we are listening to his words and watching his moves, even if we are sure that he is just a liar. Well, that can be a free entertainment for all of us.

No, rather he is becoming a laughing stock in front of the community! People who don't understand the significance of signing a message using a key, probably favoring him. But majority of the community knows that providing a list of addresses wouldn't make sense! It will only start making sense when he will prove that he also owns the key of those addresses and are able to do transactions from those addresses! Apparently, that's what beyond his capability and the community knows about it!

All of his FUD is going to an end on 3rd Feb. That is the date court has given to CSW to prove his ownership on those bitcoins! 18 more days to go!

Showing proof of btc addresses that contains 1.1 million BTC does not mean it belongs to him. It's easy to guess how craig wright thinks,
proof like that anyone can easily get it. Just look for sites that display the richest bitcoin addresses, then copy paste is very simple.
So it is very clear that Craigs Wright does not prove anything useful. The problem will get longer if we always responds to everything
his remarks are not very useful, because basically craig wright only seeks sensations and attention from the public. We should ignore people
like him, because it will only waste our valuable time.

It does not prove anything. Only when you “sign” a bitcoin address, it means that you own that wallet. Otherwise anybody can easily give some wallet numbers with a total amount of 1.1 million bitcoins. It doesn't make sense.

reason why i following this drama, just because stupid craig it self, u know why ?
if u watch this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56KkDEQx8a4) , u surely know what wrong with his head, just go to the 34.31 then play.when he got questioned about original keys he just says ,"because i don't need to".
and now, he claiming on court (https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-craig-wrights-courier/amp/) about 1 million btc.

I just waited for BSV to crash deeper and after that many people lost money because they put trust in CSW, he only got more than 16k wallet addresses in the encrypted file even he didn't have the key he said, so just waiting for the price BSV crashes completely

NOT ENOUGH.
I can also put a bitcoin address and I can address it as mine but in reality, it isn't mine. This proves nothing, the one we need is strong evidence let him do some transaction in that wallet and open it up in front of people. Or some legitimate signed messages of ownership or those wallets.

He's a troll. You can't expect any more from him, except more trolling. Plus the community would only be satisfied if he moves the coinbase outputs from the first blocks, which he cannot ever do.

This ain't publicity, it is notoriety and a bad image for the entire market, first off the entire crypto community is split up and fighting against each other which is silly rather than combining all the resources and energy to make the market better and rather than doing that everyone has taken their sides and positions to make money and notoriety which will not help anyone as the market will not fulfill anything that everyone envisioned.

The court will have the resources to verify what ever he produces and if he cannot sign then he is doomed for providing fake documents :D.

This can easily be disproved if we can see the addresses first. I suspect many contradictions will be discovered once the addresses are made public.
By the way, hope the court will get him to sign all the address to prove he owns them(this isn't good enough proof though).
 The number of the addresses has been quoted already assuming the article is reliable/credible

It won't prove anything. ANYONE can declare the 16,000 addresses delivered by the bonded courier to be theres, but what does it prove?

Move the coinbase outputs of the first blocks. If anyone has done it, he/she is Satoshi.

Indeed, this drama should had been finished long ago if Craig just signed a message on that given addresses.  But I bet, he don't have the private keys for that addresses and just used the delaying tactics strategy to prolong his exposure and "fame" on media, its a free publicity for his BSV anyway.

Yup. Either sign a message, or move a coin.

If he was Satoshi he'd have moved coins already, given how desperate he appears to be for both fame and money.

I wonder if any the the addresses in the list are anyone's here... or mine even!

This is the most important thing to have a signed message on the address but it seems Craig Wright did not have proof of ownership of the addresses he provided then, we consider that claiming someone's wallet. I dont think about this man why always making different stories just to make his name published anywhere. He just kind of liar that we shouldn't trust. Just ignore him.

Although he can provide addresses with millions of bitcoins, but he still cannot prove that he owns them. It would be nice if there was a Sign Message with Craig "Satoshi" Wright written on it.
It was a big score for him to prove that he was Satoshi Nakamoto.

If I want to scam a noobs, all I need is to show him a public address of a bitcoin whale and claim it to be mine, this way the noobs will think I am rich, so I can say do this and that and without questions my orders will be carried out. Well CSW should have known that the Judge is not a novice in matters like this, moreso there are blockchain lawyers too who will make a good objection.

If he could sign a message with those addresses then he would most likely be recognized as Satoshi. But surely this will never happen because he is a fake, and no one will be able to access those BTC addresses. Hopefully this lawsuit will end quickly and Craig Wright will be held accountable for his lies.

In just one strong order, he will be lose already, how? Just ask him, "could you please digitally sign each of the wallet address you've provided". If we couldn't provide the digital signature for that, well, I am pretty sure, he just get the reputation he dreamed for, to lose trust from more and more people out of cryptocurrency space. But if he could, it is still not a valid reason to be called satoshi, a whale may do, or to threat bitcoin market, but most of the people will just let him sell and dump all of that, and they will just buy it and will take it as an opportunity. So thanks again, Craig.

Yes that can be done by anyone. This doesn’t prove that he is not Faketoshi.
He should apologize and must admit his fake claim rather than coming with more fake evidence. Let him go to court and get some severe punishment so that others may not do that.

I am not sure whether these addresses are public and if that is the case he will be having a hard time explaining that to the court as anyone in the community will be exposing those before going to the court as everyone is waiting to bust him.I am waiting to see how this thing will go as some are convinced that he is producing the documents to prove what he is claiming and so is the reason the price rallied now. What happens next is yet to be seen.

Haha really? he's running at the backstage when he was asked like that? he has no face to show to the people that's why he's acting like that and he knows his real stand to what he is saying which is full of nonsense things and claims.

There is a possibility that he goes on full exit with that fork he made and that's why he's trying to pump it as much as he can before the said due date on February. But regardless of that, it will never change the reality that he's claiming things that doesn't belong to him.

Well we all know that bitcoin addresses doesn't have any names, so it doesn't proved anything.

As others have said, you can just plucked that addresses and own it, but unless CSW can sign the messages of those BTC addresses, those are useless. I'm sure that when the judge ask him to digitally sign from those addresses, you will come up with lots of reasons again.

Yes, really. You did not see the video or read about it?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/craig-wright-savaged-stage-malta-183312031.html

Craig forges signatures and lies in court. Even the judge saw it and wrote in his opinion that Craig doesn't answer straight and hides behind technicalities when asked simple questions.


Look at this. One of his proofs :D

https://twitter.com/stephendpalley/status/1146527019326496769

That's some great questions asked during the Malta conference. Even if a person loses some of his ids and proofs but it's a stupid thing to claim that he lost all of the forum password, emails password and even the github password. There are several ways the real satoshi if alive could identify himself/herself/itself.

The court ordered Craig Wright to provide Satoshi Nakamoto's private keys to his wallets by early February. He must demonstrate to the court the possession of these keys. Providing public addresses does not prove anything. If Craig Wright fails to comply with the court order in a few weeks, it will be finally known that he is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

These are billionaires who often manipulate the market to become richer.  Craig often makes market statements to manipulate the crowd and let's be careful of these wallets when there is a big move up the exchange.  I have joined a signal group and the bots will automatically notify me of a major shift in the wallets holding a lot of money, here is the link: https://t.me/whale_alert_io

Why are these courts still listening to his bull sh*t arguments. Someone tell the judge that anyone could can see all the addresses which are holding higher amounts of bitcoins and claim like this. I think Craig has lost his mind and just trying to make a dumb argument.

He's trolling, and doing a good job dividing Roger Ver's Bitcoin Cash community, which Roger divided from the Bitcoin community. That's called karma.

Well, I think he only did this to try making the court looks like a fool. Providing only public addressess does not prove anything, and we all know that the court won't take this as a proof for proving that he is not the real satoshi. Let's just wait for the final decision of the court until the judgement day comes.

This is bullshit, anyone can give evidence like that, Unless he can prove he has access to those wallets. All just a trick to manipulate the price of BSV.

Will that even prove him as the real Satoshi? This dude really does give so much time for a nonsense claim. Why is he even that obsessed on claiming to be Satoshi but can't even prove it yet.
Indeed. They're wasting so much time with this issue. The court could have just finished this nonsense because he can't even prove it. I don't know why the court wants to prolong this argument and claims of Craig Wright.

CWS counts on people being cryptographically illiterate when he presents "proofs" like this, just like how he presented invalid signature to those journalists back when it all started. And unfortunately, a huge part of cryptocurrency community doesn't understand cryptography in the slightest, all they know is that private keys should be kept secret and not much more. Plus to newbies news sites are a sort of authority, if they report something, that it must be true - it works like that in real life and it's the same with crypto.

Because BSV can be pumped and gets free popularity in accordance with the rule - no matter what, people will talk about you.

He's taking advantage of that opportunity, what can we expect on someone who claims himself as the person behind that pseudonym? He's trying to manipulate the situation to make it appear that he's right when we can clearly see that it's completely full of foolishness. Well he's just trying to ruin his reputation and dignity, it's the reason why we should be cautious because we don't know his true intentions. I can't find any reason to trust and believe him because he can't even fight for his own statements, maybe because he's afraid that a single mistake can ruin and change everything. He's trying to deceive people by his words but I know that people aren't that stupid to believe his nonsense statements, he's fighting for something isn't true so let's just wait until karma finally hits him and he will surely suffer the consequences of his actions. No doubt why people are talking about him who deserves the title for being a deceiver, he's full of idea to look for various ways to get out on a difficult situations.

I think there's no correlation about his case and the price of BSV, it's just that he's up to something to prolong his appearance in the court and the exposure in the crypto news. People with a lot of money can do like that as long as they feed more money to their attorneys. As far as I am concerned, I don't like to hear any shit story of CW and his claim because it's annoying because he's not proving anything nor giving a clear evidence of what we people are asking.

Craig Wright's lawyer said that he doesn't have the private keys included with the addresses delivered by the bonded courier.

BSV supporters say, "But which lawyer, Craig Wright has many lawyers". Hahaha.

Known identity thief CSW previously made a sworn declaration on May 8th "under penalty of perjury" that the bonded courier contained the private keys: https://twitter.com/longandy/status/1217599943512412168

Now he submits a list of publicly available information and states the courier didn't contain the private keys.

Interested to see what ever more ridiculous lie he comes up with this time to reconcile these two events.

I refuse to believe anyone is stupid enough to actually believe this nonsense, and the BSV shills are just trying to pump it to offload their bags.

Some people stood up and supported Enron / MCI / Countrywide Mortgage even after the end was known.
Hell I know someone who was probably the last one out of the local Countrywide office.

So, don't discount how blind and stupid people are.

It's magical internet money we are talking about here so it's a bit worse.

With the above being said, anyone who has believed and still believes CW is a fracking idiot.

-Dave

A list that contains bitcoin address does not prove something unless you have the private key or access to it. Craig Wright cannot prove he or eve withdraw a single satoshi to those Satoshi's wallet. He is a fake, and fraud maybe. What we want is that he should show that he has access to those wallets and this issue is done.

to prove that he is the real satoshi he needs to show the ownership of all the wallet
this will not prove anything only those don't have knowledge in crypto will believe it
every address that mined bitcoin is public we can see it in bitcoin explorer

I see what's happening right now, this Faketoshi is doing all the things he can to prove himself as the teal Satoshi which is useless by the way. But he can't even prove it himself. Besides, as what I have said bitcoin itself is already bigger than the creator itself, so I don't see the point of us needing a certain Satoshi Nakamoto to guide us through bitcoin heaven. Just support the coin itself and strategize on your investment to get the highest profits.

So he is now guilty of prejury. According to US district laws, since this is a US court case:


This means that it doesn't matter whether CSW made the sworn statement in the US, only that he broke it, and the moment Kleiman's lawyers bring this up in court then he is going to have a hefty fine to pay from his own pocket. But it's unlikely that he will go to prison for this.

Next time he should think again before making such risky sworn statements.

Makes you wonder if your own addresses aren't on that list.

There aren't that many big addresses on the network, ones that hold over 10 BTC. Craig had to find those addresses and list them. It that list available to public?

If you hold more than 10BTC on a single address chances are Craig included your coins on his list and is trying to make the court believe that he will in some distant future have access to these coins. It would take just 1 person to sign one of Craig's addresses for this scheme to crash hard.

I'm pretty sure that's not what he did - even CSW isn't that stupid (although I'm sure many of his followers are).

He'll have gone through early addresses from the first couple of months of bitcoin and listed the ones which are strongly suspected to be linked to Satoshi. These are mostly (or perhaps even exclusively) coinbase transactions from early mined blocks which have never been spent. Various people have done things like this in the past to try to estimate how many coins Satoshi owns, such as here: https://bitslog.com/2013/04/24/satoshi-s-fortune-a-more-accurate-figure/.

Even if he gets some of them wrong, and lists addresses which don't belong to Satoshi, then his chances of being exposed are very small - the chances of someone having mined a block 10 years ago, not having touched the coins in the intervening 10 years, still be alive and well, still have access to the private keys, and now be willing to move the coins or sign a message for the very first time in 10 years just to prove him wrong, are pretty small.

Absolutely. Start here and work along: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/block/0

No one is that stupid to believe in a person who trolls, has a history of lying, faking documents, faking key signing, and more.

We have been trolled.

They problem is can judge believe and have realistic argument about the problem, to proof that address is correct is not easy, need professional to do that. Showing 1.1 million btc will create crime and speculation and I think this part will used by whales to manipulate market with bait. Only need to push the news in every social media and articles, from there new mindset will built and whales only need to invite us for fake movement. Leave the news away and never share it, you make us can't focus what we doing right now.

Here is latest on that 1.1 million btc

We can do that too right?
It is a public key. Maybe he should provide private keys next time.
He is making a fool out of those people in the trial. But here, we are not.

What I really want is to go thru this guy's mind.
What is he thinking? Is there a plan ahead after this?
If he lose, what will be next?  ;D
Could be a lot of rainbows in that small brain of him. Maybe Patrick is a lot wiser.  ;D

Craig just found an excuse.  I bet this bonded courier will never arrive.  Or he will do a scenario of hi-jacking such important file.  Craig had been lying all these years, why do we have to believe him?  This event is a staged one created by Craig himself to delay and mislead people to the actual information.

He can boast it because it is just an address. No one knows who it owns because of anonymity. If he show to the public then he will say that it is his privacy. Because if private keys were shown, we can all access freely the wallets. I think he needs to make a video showing how he owns a lot of bitcoin. But he will never do it because he is only an actor not an innovator.

Is that list of addresses public? Or it will at some point? Because if you can see those addresses maybe a whale could see some of his addresses in the list and sign a message saying that Craig does not own those coins disproving him once and for all without having to deal with all of the circus he is trying to create.

And I agree with you once we come to the point in which he needs to prove that he has access to those funds he will get amnesia and will not remember were he stored those private keys or will invent a story about how his hard drive crashed losing his coins in the process.