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Doesn't prove crap. Addresses, along with how much bitcoin are in them, are completely public anyway. Wouldn't be farfetched to think that they simply just checked the bitcoin rich list and just picked certain addresses. And by the way, here's one of the addresses I own: 3M6UcBNGZAW1HRjiFDMRcY5aXFrQ4F9E1y ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Definitely not Binance's cold wallet address. 100% mine, zero doubt at all. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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craig-wright-provides-list-of-16404-bitcoin-btc-addresses-that-contain-95-bln-is-he-real-satoshi
giong to a website like this: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html and copying a bunch of addresses from there into a text doesn't make that person Satoshi. anybody can do that since bitcoin blockchain is a public ledger ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) if he owned even a single output worth a Satoshi dated in early years i am sure he would have already shown in back when he was publicly ridiculed for trying to forge a signature...
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Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.
A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.
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Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.
A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.
Not that I am a fan of Vitalik but he once said something which was more or less like this, There are two ways of proving something. A noisy way and an easy way. Craig always choose the noisy way because he really do not have anything to back him up. To prove I am me, a known BTC address of me is enough or if I have a PGP finger print then that's enough. No one needs to see how much bitcoin I have. How many more times we will talk about this BS from Craig?
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Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.
A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.
I've heard on Twitter, that BSV is going to go a sort of "rollback" to an older codebase of BSV and probably some alterations here and there, for Craig Wright to be able to gain access to Satoshi's bitcoins or something(edit for clarity: of course I meant BSV, the forked bitcoins). Haven't checked on this BSV "genesis upgrade" though so don't take my word for it; could possibly just BS.
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Did satoshi really have about 16,404 BTC addresses? AFAIK there are only few of them that were identified which has a lot of BTC on it from the genesis. Wright's enigmatic Bitcoin fortune has been one of the biggest stories in the cryptocurrency space. If he does have access to his BTC fortune, that would be a major blow to numerous Wright critics and give another major push to the soaring Bitcoin SV (BSV) fork. Amazing that they think Wright can provide proof which is why BSV pumped so much up to 100% yesterday. Its possible that BSV would plummet if he can't sign message to the wallet from the proven wallet of Satoshi.
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He's stalling. These 16,000 addresses prove absolutely nothing since anyone can compile a list of early address from the publicly viewable blockchain. However, it will take a while for the judge and other parties to examine a list of 16,000 addresses, giving CSW plenty of time to come up a reason as to why he was able to unlock the file, but only access the addresses and not the private keys. Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing. Prediction: In amongst those 16,000 addresses, there will be one or two addresses he does own with a couple of bitcoin in them from the early days of bitcoin. He will sign a message from one of those or move a few sats and claim it to be proof of Satoshi. Then the BSV shills will pump this trash again.
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January 15, 2020, 04:15:52 PM |
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I've heard on Twitter, that BSV is going to go a sort of "rollback" to an older codebase of BSV and probably some alterations here and there, for Craig Wright to be able to gain access to Satoshi's bitcoins or something.
Not satoshi's bitcoins, but satoshi's BSVs lol That still don't prove nothing. He must prove to own satoshis btc, not bsvs.
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if he owned even a single output worth a Satoshi dated in early years i am sure he would have already shown in back when he was publicly ridiculed for trying to forge a signature... If he submitted those details in court and if he really lied then he will be facing jail time for the actions, lying in court is not a comical thing, everyone can sit behind a pseudo and tell what ever we like as there is no consequences in social media and if he is proven a lair then that alias will not be trusted further but you will not go behind bars but that is not the case with lying in court, it has serious consequences and a few more days and we will see how the story unfolds.
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Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.
A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.
It was more than enough to fuel enormous pump.
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Did satoshi really have about 16,404 BTC addresses?
Hard to say. There's no definitive evidence which early addresses were satoshi's. It's safe to assume, though, that many of the addresses created in 2009 were his/hers. With on the order of 80,000 addresses created in 2009 in total, the chance of any one single address being his/hers isn't actually very high. The "guesstimate" of a million BTC being satoshi's comes from Sergio Demian Lerner's research. And BTW: CSW is an imposter, fraud, identity thief and desecrator of Kleiman's grave.
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Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own blockchain. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the blockchain.
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If he submitted those details in court and if he really lied then he will be facing jail time for the actions CSW? The identity thief? Lie in court!? Surely not! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) a few more days and we will see how the story unfolds. Unfortunately it will take much longer than that. For all the things CSW isn't, he is good at spinning web upon web of lies that takes weeks or months for the courts to work through. Just when a deadline approaches, he pulls a new stunt (such as submitting 16,000 addresses which prove absolutely nothing) to delay things further. It was more than enough to fuel enormous pump. BSV shills aren't exactly the most intelligent people. They've had CSW lie to their faces for years and yet they still swallow whatever word salad he serves them next.
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That is not considered evidence. Anyone can provide similar information in front of the judge. And if he can sign a message with those addresses then maybe it will be passed. But I believe he will never do it because he doesn't own it, it's all a lie. The BSV will surely collapse within the next few days if the court asks him to sign messages like that.
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Doesn't prove crap. Addresses, along with how much bitcoin are in them, are completely public anyway. Wouldn't be farfetched to think that they simply just checked the bitcoin rich list and just picked certain addresses. And by the way, here's one of the addresses I own: 3M6UcBNGZAW1HRjiFDMRcY5aXFrQ4F9E1y ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Definitely not Binance's cold wallet address. 100% mine, zero doubt at all. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yep, I completely agree with this one. A friend of mine sent me this article today that says Craig's allegedly received the keys. According to the court's decision, he has until February 3, 2020 (so, like, 3 weeks) to unlock the wallet, as far as I understand. Now, I don't think I'll believe that Craig is Satoshi even if he opens that wallet. I could believe that Dave was Satoshi, but not this arrogant guy. However, it would make a big difference in the discussions of Craig and add significantly to his reputation, more or less establishing him as Satoshi Nakamoto. I doubt it's going to happen, but luckily we'll find out soon.
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January 15, 2020, 04:47:26 PM |
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CSW? The identity thief? Lie in court!? Surely not! ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Lets be realistic, how long he can get away lying in court, the verdict will come out in a year or two and then what he will do, disappear and hide under a rock ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . The lies in court are documented and his fate is sealed as you cannot run like that and dream that everything is fine. Unfortunately it will take much longer than that. For all the things CSW isn't, he is good at spinning web upon web of lies that takes weeks or months for the courts to work through. Just when a deadline approaches, he pulls a new stunt (such as submitting 16,000 addresses which prove absolutely nothing) to delay things further. The web of lies will not last longer, the verdict will be coming out within a year and he will face what he deserves if he lied as he cannot run around just like that for a long period of time. If the court is not able to come to a conclusion then they will appoint someone who is an expert and they will come to an verdict soon. Anyone with a minimum common sense will not dare Perjury as it is a serious offense in any jurisdiction. It is entertainment for the masses ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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Until he signs a message from those addresses, that proves nothing.
A cryptographic proof is all the community demands, but he hasn't provided any.
Earlier Wright had admitted that he don't have access to these coins (because he do not possess the private keys). According to him, the private keys are split in to multiple parts and held by multiple people. Wright was supposed to receive them in a "bounded courier", at some point of time in January 2020. However, Wright is now claiming that he has indeed received the private keys through courier (as per his statement on 14th January to Federal District Judge Beth Bloom of South Florida). He has time until February 3rd to prove the same. Expect some crazy movements in the market until that date.
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then what he will do, disappear and hide under a rock It worked for McAfee. Or the QuadrigaCX founder who went to India and likely faked his own death to avoid the $190 million lawsuit he faced. I'm sure CSW is holding enough BSV to dump on his followers to fund whatever escape plan he is concocting. Anyone with a minimum common sense will not dare Perjury as it is a serious offense in any jurisdiction. Yeah, your mistake there is believing the CSW has any common sense.
Assuming that CSW has just pulled 16,000 keys from the blockchain (which he almost certainly has), what's the likelihood of at least one of the users who actually own one or more of those addresses still being active and being able to sign a message saying CSW is full of it?
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I know WIPO will not allow such shady evidence like that to grant the patent claim. If he submitted those details in court and if he really lied then he will be facing jail time for the actions Lol. Craig is just applying for a patent claim by proving that he's Satoshi Nakamoto, founder of the Bitcoin. I don't think he'll go to jail because of fake patent claims since judges don't also even know what is the real identity of Satoshi. I know he'll be f'cked up once the legit Satoshi shows up with evidences that will grant the patent claim. CW will be at risk if it happens.
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Anyway, we have to wait until 3 February because it will be the final day for Craig wright to proved the proof to what he claims that 16000 bitcoin addresses he owns and fonder of bitcoins. so he can give fake statements to peoples but not in court because he knows that if the court finds he has given fake statements regarding that sure he will be at risk. but Craig wright still in the confined I can prove.
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