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Hey, I am just starting out and would like to use a VPN, but don't know which one... Would you recommend NordVPN? I have done some reading https://www.reddit.com/r/nordvpn/ and looks alright, how is it for bitcoin stuff?

NordVPN is fine but I would suggest going with ProtonVPN instead (based in Switzerland, and supports connecting over Tor).

If you're going to use it to access some bitcoin services/exchanges that are banned in your country, then I wouldn't suggest doing so. If caught, your funds will be frozen.

I don't think that that's an important criteria. - (edit: I see - unless of course those services are forbidden in your country.)

If i buy a VPN- i would really focus on two things- speed and logging policies.

Speed is sort of subjectable, which leaves logging policies.

The only VPN i think which has gone to and through court over their no-log policies, and held up their end, is, as far as i know-  PIA (https://www.technadu.com/private-internet-access-wins-against-fbi/30987/). (But they recently got new ownership  (https://www.techradar.com/news/cyberghost-owner-buys-pia-for-dollar955m-to-create-vpn-giant)which i think is a bad thing), so i wouldn’t necessarily recommend them anymore..

NordVPN is apparently audited by various reputable firms (https://torrentfreak.com/nordvpn-shares-results-of-no-log-audit-181123/) (not sure how credible this is.), so, if you trust them, i guess NordVPN wouldn't be a bad choice either.

Different people have different opinions, in my opinion the best VPN I use right now is a HMA with a 2 year license, in my opinion the HMA is fast and the GUI is minimalist. also the size of the application is also relatively small.

I think HMApro is a good VPN because there are many choices of up to hundreds of IPs available.
Buy with one year can satisfy you. ;) ;)

https://i.ibb.co/k4s7YD4/Screenshot-5.png

ExpressVPN is one of the top recommendations with no log. They even have a 30-days money back guarantee.

Unless you're in China I guess

How long have you been using the paid HMApro? like I was interested and wanted to use the VPN to do things or access the internet.


Do you know the difference between ExpressVPN and HMApro? which one is more efficient?
And I just checked ExpressVPN using bitcoin in payment.

I've been using ExpressVPN for a few years now, and never had any issues with it. It is fast, reliable, and what's very important to me is that  they have great customer support, basically 24/7 live chat. Using it on PC, mobile phones (both android and iOS) and TV. Works like a charm.

I've tried several others top VPN services like NordVPN, but none proved to be on ExpressVPN level. It is more expensive than competition though, 100 USD for 1 year, but i think it's worth the money. And they accept BTC as payment option.

I recommend Astrill VPN they have a lot of servers from different countries, different protocols, etc. they have a plan now which is $10 per month and most importantly they accept bitcoin as payment. Also they have 7 days trial, try it first before paying.


Source: https://www.astrill.com/pricing

It depends on the reason for your use? If you are looking for speed then NordVPN will be a good choice due to his good reputation.
I do not trust many VPN operators of these services, especially Vypr vpn, Cyberghost vpn. You can read some comments on this topic^[1].
Same for PIA which I used it  ;D.
If the purpose is to use it on any exchange platform (Not recommended option,) the best one is PIA.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203656.msg53196238#msg53196238 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203656.msg53196238#msg53196238)

Have a look at this article before choosing your VPN provider. I think it is important to know what 5 Eyes, 9 Eyes, 14 Eyes means in terms of privacy.
https://restoreprivacy.com/5-eyes-9-eyes-14-eyes/

5 Eyes refers to 5 big countries who formed an international surveillance alliance. They spy, collect, and share data among each other. The big Five Eyes countries are

1. Australia
2. Canada
3. New Zealand
4. United Kingdom
5. United States

This alliance was later widened to 9 Eyes with the addition of Denmark, France, Netherlands, and Norway. Now we have 14 Eyes...
The article suggests to avoid privacy and security oriented services from countries that are part of the alliance and use alternatives.

If you read the article you will see a list of suggested VPN and email providers that are suitable to use.

Or if you need a VPN with dedicated IP, you can make your own with OpenVPN and a small VPS plan  ;)

Would be probably cheaper than any VPN with dedicated ip plan on the market and you can manage your server yourself  ;)

Where are you starting out ?  Do you need to use VPN with this forum ? There is no need to use vpn and you can access this forum without any worry with your own original IP.
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By the way, I am also looking to find a VPN which is free of cost and good too. Is there any out there ?

You can find this comparison guide helpful in choosing right VPN for you:
https://thatoneprivacysite.net/#detailed-vpn-comparison

PS
There is NO free of cost good VPN and there will never be something like that, but you can find good VPN deals on internet.

It really depends on where you are going to use it. For example, some VPNs support torrenting some not. Some are cheap, some are more expensive. Some unblock a lot of streaming sites, some only a couple. I use Surfshark because it has advanced security protocols and is quite affordable.

One additional thing to consider above those already mentioned are the TOS (Terms of Service), and if they apply on paper or in practice. That will depend on your full set of user needs and habits, but checking the TOS won’t do you any harm, and may help to discard a few from the selection process. I recall using one of the most reputable ones, only to find out soon enough that it was incompatible with my scraping procedures (therefore I had to switch to a slightly slower, yet more permissive one).

I do use a free VPN which is free and safe. It is a chrome extension which is free and easy to use. They have 100 servers spread all over the globe. Also, it has good reviews and many users are using it. You can check it out here - SetupVPN - Lifetime Free VPN (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/setupvpn-lifetime-free-vp/oofgbpoabipfcfjapgnbbjjaenockbdp)

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OP you can also try this free extension  SetupVPN - Lifetime Free VPN (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/setupvpn-lifetime-free-vp/oofgbpoabipfcfjapgnbbjjaenockbdp)

This setupVPN extension is NOT a good VPN.
Please research what 'good VPN' means before you trust some random extension and 'feedback'.
They log and track everything you do online.

As mentioned in previous reply protonvpn is not bad and you can download it for free or having a plan which depends on how much the plan you want from basic, plus, visionary which is €4, €8, €24/month. You should also keep mind as what OmegaStarScream about using VPN on a services or an exchange. Anyway, there are websites that you can access without VPN but unable to create an account unless you use a VPN to create and then you'll be able to log in without VPN.

Agreed.
It is not only US, as we also have so called 'Five Eyes, Nine Eyes and 14-Eyes Countries' for VPN Jurisdiction.
5 eyes alliance are US, UK, NZ, CA, AUS

There are a hundred reasons why someone might want to use a VPN when connecting to the forum. Just because you don't have a reason to use one, please don't assume no one else does either.

No. If you are getting something for free, then you are the product. This holds true for everything from VPNs to search engines to social media. They are collecting and selling your data. Using a free VPN is often worse than no VPN at all, since you route everything you do online through a single entity who will collate all that data in to a massive profile of you and then sell it to anyone who asks.

The only "free" VPN I would ever even consider touching is ProtonVPN, but it's not really free as it is subsidized by their paying users.

A browser extension is not a VPN. At best, it is a proxy. Also, let's take a quick look at their Privacy Policy (emphasis mine):


So they collect your real name and address, and log everything you do while using their product. That's not a VPN, that's a surveillance program. If you are using this, I would recommend uninstalling it immediately.

I suggest you to ULTRA VPN, i personally using this and this is very affordable with as lease as $2.25/Month. It is also granting so called money back warranty of 1 Month.

Again, have you read their Privacy Policy? Does anyone read the Privacy Policy before signing up to or recommending a VPN? This is another one to avoid at all costs. Let's take a look. Emphasis mine throughout.

Here's the information they collect about you:

Ok, so UltraVPN know your name, email address, phone number, IP address, browser fingerprint, location, and payment details. So, enough to completely identify you without fail. What do they do with that information?

Personalize the content and advertising that you see? Ooft. That's a big no-no. They log everything you do and analyze your traffic to build a profile on you that they can give to third parties to target you with ads. And as if that wasn't bad enough...

So not only do they keep a log of everything you are doing online, and can link that to your real identity, they will share all that data with pretty much anyone they damn well please.

Avoid.

Wouldn't that be some kind of violation when it comes to privacy and security. I mean technically they are bound by some kind of service-client privilege where they are availing a service for privacy and secrecy and you mean the US government have some kind of power to just ask them to hand their data over? I don't think so, by having this kind of loophole I think nobody will be availing VPNs especially the ones located in the US. I don't think they have this kind of power at all not unless these VPN companies have some kind of agreement with the authorities before hand that they can hand over data anytime the government as them to do so. Also for people suggesting free VPNs you are wrong with this one, since even if they let you access restricted websites the data they get from you is being sold for profit, the essence of having a VPN for the sake of privacy is absent.

I'm using PureVPN and I got it when they held a Christmas promo I got it by a 90% discount do check them out they still offer various promotional offer, PureVPN is one of the top VPN in the industry you will not regret subscribing to their service.

To add to ETFBitcoin's hack details, Nord was indeed hacked in 2018, but what might be worth considering more is that it took them more than a year to disclose it:


They say they chose not to publicize it just in case other servers were also exploitable. People were understandably upset, but Nord's explanation is also (somewhat) acceptable to me. It's up to you which side you want to camp in.

Either way, I've been using Nord for more than 3 years now and I'm generally happy with its reliability. I would honestly recommend it, but again, take that breach and their reaction into consideration. Breaches can happen to anyone, but how providers react to could be indicative of how they handle business.

Oh really I did not know this. I was using this extension, now I uninstalled it. Thank you!

One thing I realized is we need to read the privacy policy before installing anything.

Yeah, as ETFbitcoin says, you need to read the privacy policy but you can't base all your decisions on it. If the privacy policy is poor (like the examples above), then you should absolutely avoid that service. Having a good policy doesn't guarantee that they follow it, though, or that they don't have flaws in their set up which mean you could be identified.

It's also useful to look for whether the VPN provider has been subpoenaed (or their jurisdiction's equivalent) and therefore had to prove they have no logs, or whether they have been independently audited by a trustworthy third party. Even then, though, that only proves they kept no logs at the time of the event, and things can change going forward.

With every VPN you use there will be an element of trust involved.

I know this topic is quite crowded already but had to share the experience I have with ExpressVPN
they're really good, have great support and don't keep logs of your navigation.

totally vouch for them

in this article I explain a bit mre about the importance of VPNs.
on the link in this article you can also get 30 days for free and they also have a 30-day moneyback guarantee.

https://medium.com/@lucasgabd/what-are-the-top-uses-of-virtual-private-networks-ca56245bb812

Before I posted website where you can see comparison of various VPN's
On same website you can find a guide how to choose best VPN for you:
https://thatoneprivacysite.net/choosing-the-best-vpn-for-you/

I use Brave extension (chromium based) SetupVPN which is very easy to use and reliable.
Just try multiple VPN providers and choose one that fits your needs.

Sure we can just 'trust' you a brand new promoter of shitVPN extension that spy and track your every move :-X

I don't know what you mean by "spy and track". And if the extension is doing this, is not my fault.
Also I don't know why you gave me negative trust, just because I am newbie? I just answered the moonyguy's question.

It is obvious why I gave you negative trust - because I do NOT trust you and because you are promoting shit product and because you created brand new account just for that purpose.

1) I do not promote any product, I posted what I use answering the thread initiator question.
2) How can you trust or not someone if you don't know him? Just because you saw 1 post of him?
3) As for the brand new account, maybe because I am new to this forum.
4) I don't know if the product is a "shit" product or not. That's why I said moonyguy to try more and pick one he likes.

1) Yes you do
2) I can
3) You are not
4) I know

Have a nice day

For me NORD vpn is already good. But as of now, I am using Touch VPN in my pc. It offers a lot of countries that is why I would like to recommend that one to you. It is called touch because in just a touch, the vpn will literally gonna be activated. Try to check that out and for sure you will not regret that using it.

Even if you are not getting paid to promote this "free VPN" extension OR you are not related to them, keep in mind that ANY free VPN/proxy is a spyware. They need to pay their servers, right? If you don't pay for the product, you are the product.

Why would you advertise something like this? This doesn't necessarily mean you deserve a negative trust right away, BUT it is kinda shady (also considering it was your first post).

I understand what you mean, but I didn't said is free.
OK, I don't want to talk anymore and get into details, it will be considered I continue promoting that VPN.

I understand, Everyone has his or her own opinion on what's good for them,
 I've been Using Secure VPN 2019 since last year,
And it worked perfectly well for me,
 So I highly recommend it for your Device safety from useless site,
 As it protects you from virus as well.

I'd prefer to go with HotSpot Shield (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hotspotshield.android.vpn) by AnchorFree as I've been using it since last 3 years and had no problems in getting latest proxies every single time I switched the VPN on. It has 2 types - Free and Premium where Premium costs you $12 monthly and around $96 yearly.

Go for Tunnelbear. i think it is wonderful but there are restrictions especially for some countries. Another good VPN is turbo. Looks good and quite impressive.  Remember that VPN is not free of charge and you are to pay if you want a premium services.

Is this whole thread just going to turn in to people suggesting VPNs and me showing them how terrible their Privacy Policies are?

HotspotShield is a free browser extension. Therefore it is not a real VPN, and as has been said above, if you are getting something for free, then you are the product. The bottom line is the must be making money somehow, or else they would cease to operate, and they do so by selling your data. Let's take a look at their Privacy Policy:

Red flag number 1. Use your data to personalize their advertising? How can something be personalized unless they are tracking what you do and building a profile about you?

Emphasis mine. Red flag number 2. Third parties who "deliver their marketing and advertising content". They are selling your data to advertisers.

What. The. Hell. Red flags number 3 through 100. Avoid this spyware at all costs.

i use ProtonVPN.

Did you read the last few posts?
Please read the last 2 pages and then give your opinion-suggestion about what OP should use.
Try to post multiple options for him or her, don't do the same mistake I did unless you are very sure the VPN you suggested is a trusted one.

I'm using CyberGhost.
It offers an excellent VPN product with strong, unique features not found elsewhere, along with a generous number of simultaneous connections.
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/cyberghost-vpn

No one here mention orbot (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.android&hl=en_US)?. this free VPN for android. I was using it and had no problem.

CyberGhost is one of the worst. Also, I'd be interested if you could tell me a single "unique feature" they provide which isn't found elsewhere, as I am not aware of any.

Let's take a look at their Privacy Policy:
"Our ultimate holding company and all its subsidiaries". Uh oh. Who are their ultimate holding company? They are owned by a company called Kape, who were formerly known as CrossRider. This is an advertising company who purposefully infected their own customers with malware and spyware, and hijacked their browsers for tracking and advertising purposes. Even the CEO admits they changed their name to try to hide their history of shady activities. They are the last company in the world I would trust to run a VPN.

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Orbot is good, but it isn't a VPN. It routes all your mobile traffic over the Tor network.

Well, I'm wrong, and VPN is useless as well. Thanks for letting me know  >:(
I had not seen the policy, I will see from today

I had used hola VPN in the past which wasn't good whenever I tried to change the specific country it was changed to something else after that I tried some setup VPN but it was also not working properly. Thank you, OP for creating this thread and all the members for sharing the new VPN. I will definitely try out the recommended VPN.

Ho, I am sorry. Orbot working as vpn, it will hide IP address perfectly

Nord are easy to use, big and reliable.   They reduce prices at various times in sales and give a good discount for a long term packages which is fair to take up.
 
The free ones I can remember using are tunnelbear who do want you to pay but also give a free allowance and Avast vpn I used for like month or two and was no hassle, again they want you to sign up eventually but it was easy to get hold of, engage and then not use later so easy all round.

NordVPN certainly has a lot of positive things going for it. My only real issue with them is that they were hacked back in March 2018, and it took them 18 months to tell their users that their data might have been compromised or their traffic decrypted by a malicious third party. It's difficult to trust a company who don't tell their users when there are security issues.

Tunnelbear's privacy policy isn't terrible, but they do keep some logs including details about your OS, your app version, and how much data you use. They are based in Canada (five eyes country), and are owned and operated by McAfee. Their free plan only allows 500MB a month, and the only way to pay for a plan is via a credit card, which obviously then links your VPN activity to your real name and address, which is far from ideal. Overall, not a great choice.

Avast's privacy policy is awful:



Avast collects your personal data including real name, address, social media accounts, and IP addresses, and shares that data with marketing, surveying, and data analysis companies. Avoid them at all costs.

your current location matters(country) because some VPN restricted services in some countries. especially the African continent. also, why you want to use VPN is another reason. you can use Nordvpn. it is powerful and one of the best vpn around. i personal use Dotvpn because the services are affordable and always available. Also the free services are works well when you are out of subscription but Ads will always be your problem.

Choosing Virtual Private Network (VPN) is just only use to change your Internet Protocol (IP) and your Internet Service Provider (ISP) or server just to open or browse some of the website or platform that is not acceptable on your country, also you can use the Http Injector, OpenVPN (Ovpn) or the SSH Elite if you want to browse some of the VPN but some of this requires some configuration that you will get through the groups related on that VPN most of the time they are giving server in the country of SG, PH, US, KR or CH.

Go CRYPTO. And by that i mean Orchid (OXT) VPN. It's based on ETH blockchain, and it's a fun and interesting project.
However, it's still in it's infancy (they do have a working app, and it works beautifully) amd speed on some nodes can be sluggish.

I have a question, why do you like to use VPN?
If you would like to use your VPN for exchange trading like Binance, Kucoin etc then you are doing wrong. They don't allow to use VPN using their trading platform. You should you real IP to use your trading exchange else you could lose your ID.
If I am wrong about my guessing then you could try Cyberghost.

In case of using VPN i might choose Proton-VPN for free of charge use it's a touch more advantage than other VPNs there's the difficulty of security and safety of one's own information aside from these VPN is widely wont to unblock any website. At an equivalent time if your ISP doesn't allow you to access an internet site you'll easily access it employing a VPN. Again if you would like to use the web with an IP address somewhere aside from the IP address given by your ISP then that's also possible through the utilization of VPN.

Nobody like VPN (slow connection) except for hiding IP or privacy purpose.

He mentioned Reddit, in my country Reddit was banned can't access it without a VPN or if you like gambling but your country had restricted, you should use a VPN, if allowed.

seems Binance allow VPN,

How to Use a VPN to Access Binance (https://www.purevpn.com/how-to-access/binance-with-a-vpn)

If we don't use any vpn but instead use the TOR browser, will it serve the same purpose ? For example i want to open a site which is restricted in my country. So instead of using vpn, i open the site in TOR browser ? Will that be the same as using a VPN ?

Good VPNs aren't slow. Maybe if you are using some free VPN (which you shouldn't be, since they almost unanimously collect and sell your data), but if you are using a reputable paid VPN, you shouldn't see your speed drop by more than a couple of percent.

Generally speaking no, Tor and VPNs do not serve the same purpose, although they can achieve similar outcomes in some situations.

Depends where your Tor exit node is located, as it might also be in a banned country. You can get round this by swapping to a new circuit for the site in question.

If you're into Linux, you could rent a VPS with unlimited traffic (for example one provider) and then also rent some IPs from some ISP to run your own VPN with an open source service. This way you don't have to trust a third party company. Of course that takes much more work, so I wouldn't recommend it because the learning curve if you're new is steep.

So there's also value in using a service some times. For such uses, I would always recommend IVPN. I think they're the most transparent and privacy friendly VPN. So if the purpose is privacy and security, they're the best or at least one of the best among service.

The choice on VPN is going to be confusing because, we are only going to speak out of the once that worked for us and discredit the once we haven't tested but then on my part, I'll say you go with it if your research tells you it's good.
Though, I use VPN proxy master.

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VPN Proxy Master have a privacy policy which is 50% plagiarized, and 50% in non-understandable broken English. Have a look here for more details: https://www.techradar.com/reviews/vpn-proxy-master. They are definitely one to avoid.

CyberGhost are another one to avoid. See my previous post in this thread here for reasons why: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225792.msg53955119#msg53955119

I've never recommended a specific VPN, because different people need and use VPNs for different reasons, and there is not a single best "one size fits all" VPN for all requirements. All I do is point out which ones have terrible privacy policies, have poor nietrack records, have been bought out by compas with poor history on privacy or shady ethics, and so forth.

If you are serious about choosing a good VPN, then here are the places you should start reading:
https://thatoneprivacysite.net/choosing-the-best-vpn-for-you/
https://www.privacytools.io/providers/vpn/

Most people don't really need a VPN.
They believe a VPN increases their privacy and security, which is plain wrong.

Depending on the country you live in, a VPN provider might be more trustworthy than your ISP. But this definitely does not apply to the western world.
Anyone using a VPN to protect his privacy, is doing something wrong.

The majority of people asking questions about VPNs actually shouldn't use one because there are better alternatives available which do not completely invade their privacy.

I'm not a real fan with the use of the NordVPN instead I'm using an HTTP injector and OpenVPN because they have a slow internet connection sometimes and at the same time some of the countries are prohibited and you need to pay them just to get the country that you want to use.

But the problem on using those I gave is you need a configuration to find out which country and those needs to have a password and user name only a few groups are offering those ones who creates the configuration but still it took almost a month before this expires and this is an absolutely free so it is good for me too.


If you want to browse into the world of internet anonymously it is good to use a VPN but still one of the problem js the server or the ISP who gives to you.

I agree that Tor is often a better choice than VPNs (and have said as much in multiple other posts), but I disagree with this. I would argue that this statement definitely applies to the Western World.

Most of the Western World practices mass surveillance of their citizens, especially 5/9/14-eyes countries. This includes ISPs logging your internet activities and browsing history against your real name and address. Their privacy policies allow them to record everything they possibly can about you and share that with anyone at all that they want to, including government surveillance programs and three letter agencies.

I would much sooner trust a VPN provider located in a privacy respecting nation such as NordVPN in Panama or ProtonVPN in Switzerland than I would any American ISP.

When talking about VPN issues that must be chosen, of course you should consider some of the services provided by the VPN provider, such as:
Trusted VPN Provider: Trustworthy audited privacy policies independently design the system to avoid storing users' personal data.
Compatible with all devices that you use: so it will be easier for you to use the VPN service on all devices you have.
A variety of features that you need that will make you comfortable using the VPN service.
Both are available in various locations: so you can choose the location of the closest server so that the connection is faster.
and the last is customer support that must be online 24 hours: so that if there is an error or other problems can immediately report and respond quickly

https://thatoneprivacysite.net/#detailed-vpn-comparison

This spreadsheet is really useful for VPN comparison. It's incredibly details and will help you narrow down your choices based on what factors you consider the most important in a VPN.

There are some free VPN and many have the premier or paid versions. If we use the free ones, will we be compromising on our privacy ?

What's the benefit of paid versions except it offers more locations to connect and few other features ?

Free VPNs are generally a no-go.

VPN providers have to make their money somewhere, otherwise they would go broke and stop operating. It costs money to pay for servers, pay for bandwidth, host their website, develop their app, and so on. As the old saying goes, if you are getting something for free, then you are the product. With free VPNs, your data is their product. They log everything you do, build a profile of your activities, which they can sell to ad agencies, marketing companies, data aggregators, political entities, and so on. Using a free VPN will make your privacy worse, not better.

Paid VPNs generally offer more locations, more bandwidth, better speeds, more devices at a time, as well as a lot of technical features such as choosing UDP or TCP, choosing ports, choosing encryption methods, etc. which you generally don't get with free VPNs. The good paid VPNs (but definitely not all paid VPNs) also don't log your data and don't sell it to third parties.

The only free VPN I would ever even consider using would be ProtonVPN, since their free service is subsidized by their paid services. Having said that, if you only need a VPN for a short period, LoyceV told me about Mullvad, which allows you to pay for days or even hours rather than a monthly or annual subscription.

That still works :) And until they accept LN (Lightning Network Bitcoin), I'm ashamed to admit I usually pay them in BCH, because they accept it with zero confirmations (unlike BTC), so it only takes about a minute to activate.

I rarely use VPN on a PC, most of the time I use it on my phone and the app I use is Turbo VPN (I use the mod version), it has a lot of options with so many countries, most they all work fine. I rate it 8/10.
With PC version, I recommen you use: ChrisPC Free VPN Connection (https://sanet.st/blogs/islamayman/chrispc_free_vpn_connection.3401952.html)

I completely agree with you.
A good motivation not to use free VPNs should be the recent news about how easy it is to hack them and get user data.



https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/17/ufo_vpn_database/

Boo. Also, that makes no sense. Given that BCH's hash rate is only around 2% of bitcoin's hash rate, it takes significantly longer for a BCH transaction to be as secure or "final" as a BTC one. What is their rationale behind this?

Please read the thread before replying. Free VPNs are terrible and should be completely avoided. You are making your privacy and security worse by using them

Wow. Proof that even when free VPNs explicitly state they do not keep logs (see the below quote from UFO VPN's Privacy Policy), they are blatantly lying and are selling you out to third parties. As I said above, they have to make their money somewhere, or else they wouldn't exist.

I don't know, but if I'd have to guess: BCH gets confirmed quite quickly with a low fee, while BTC can remain unconfirmed for a very long time. I don't think they worry much about a 51% attack, which is unlikely to happen because of paying $5 for a VPN.

I never used a paid VPN that i always experience a slow speed when i connect with VPN. However I will try both ProtonVPN and Mullvad.
If we need to go for a paid VPN, which one is most cheap and yet effective ?

I also used Nord VPN, and it is also alright for me to used Nord VPN because it is comfortable to use and has a good user-interface. But the problem in Nord VPN is it is slow because it has a lot of users, since a lot of famous people advertise and promote Nord VPN. So I also suggest used Proton VPN because it also great as Nord VPN.

You must determine for yourself what you want to get using VPN. If you really need anonymity, the security of your data, you do not need to start from the "cheap" price
Anything that is free or shareware will never work well. It's strange that in 2020 we still keep talking about it.
Take the time to study the issue competently. Maybe you should create your own VPN?
Of course, we always stick to the question, why do we need all this?
You need to understand that your data is not yours if you trust the service with the sign "Free"

For those using VPN just as a means to access blocked resources or for everyday casual browsing I would recommend VPN99 as an cheap alternative to free VPN solutions. Its biggest advantage is really very cheap price - 0,99c per month. It has more than 50 servers in different countries and more than 500 IP-addresses to hide your real location. However, consider these following drawbacks before making a decision to buy monthly plan: you can't use streaming services like Netflix when this VPN is used, on mobile app it collects your information of IP addresses, connection timings, sites your visited, etc. It doesn't work with p2p networks like Torrent, however, in other networks both upload and download speed is decent. It has no kill switch either. Still, this is the best option for the given price, and it is definitely better than free proxies.

I tried so many different VPN services and the only one that worked reliably for Netflix was Express VPN. All others were either not working, or stopped working after few days, as Netflix is very active and constantly flags servers that VPNs are using.
Express VPN is not cheap though, with 100 USD for 12 months might even be the most expensive on the market, but for streaming services, I haven't found anything better so far. Beside Netflix, you can use it for Amazon, Hulu, Disney + etc and it's fast enough for 4K streaming.

So far I dont really need a VPN service to do activities in the forum, but I need it when I open several gambling sites because it has been blocked by the government even though I can sometimes access it without VPN service. I only used the free version for a while and after that it closed again. I know that free VPN service cant be trusted completely, so I dont need them all the time and limit some app permissions that I dont think are needed.

You can either choose Nord VPN or Express VPN.My personal recommendation is ExpressVPN.Actually I am also using it looks really cool.

You can check here about best VPNs-

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-vpn-services
https://www.techradar.com/vpn/most-secure-vpns-best-encryption

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Nord VPN is a good VPN to used because it has good security features that keep your privacy safe. I think Nord VPN is not that expensive for $3 per month because other VPN cost $5-$10 per month. But there are times that Nord VPN is too slow because they have a lot of users, so you can try other VPN like Proton VPN or Express VPN because they also have a good user-interface and good security.

If you can afford, you should choose Proton or express VPN. Both of them are better than the Nord VPN. The reason is that Nord VPN is cheap and therefore many people buy it. If you need faster browsing and internet experience, choose the one which is a bit expensive and do not have a lot of load of users.

Nord seems like a good option, both Nord and Express have some discounts and yearly plans that could save money in the long run. I think both offer more or less the same service. Also, you can find discounts on YT through videos from channels like Joe Scott, Real Life Lore, Biographics, Geographics, Wendover, and the like. And as far as I know, both have great customer support so you can cancel at any time and get a refund.

As a paid one the best is nordvpn but also protonvpn at free level is not bad at all

Setup your own vpn, get vps & setup Wireguard and you're done! Even better, do it as a company, so if someone wants know something about vpn users, they've to come and ask from you... and you can say that logs are only in the memory and gets wiped out exactly when connection is cut. It's not really so complicated, and doesn't cost too much. Works perfectly for your PC & mobile devices.

I think using a free VPN is much more practical than spending on it monthly and there is a lot of good VPNs, I've been using Windscribe for a very long time and so far I didn't get any problem and the good thing is that it reset the bandwidth every 30 days which you get (15GB a month). I'm using this VPN every time I will access a game or website since the connection is much better.  I know a lot of VPNs are also using TOR connection which I think much secure and safe to use.

I would recommend Nord, also tunnelbear is another good one

Anybody use Kaspersky Secure Connection? Is good as Nord VPN, a review says.

https://i.imgur.com/pRkDPtg.png

What do you exactly mean by "bitcoin stuff" ? if you're planning to use a vpn to access gambling websites or crypto exchanges to bypass the country restriction then you will be in trouble if you get caught no matter what vpn are you using.

Super vpn

I use tomato vpn. although free but smooth. and not a lot of ads. I'm not interested in a paid vpn. so i just use the free one

 I couldn't find a vpn that would work for me. So thank you very much))  ;D

I used super vpn. It’s free you can used it

I agree, very reliable option, I liked it.

NordVPN is good yes, if a little expensive. It’s one of the better, trustworthy VPN’s on the market today. It costs more than many other competitors but that’s the price you pay for the name.

If you dont want to spent money on a VPN I recommend you windscribe VPN, these days I`ve been using for https://koinly.io/ (https://koinly.io/) and it actually worked just fine!

Suoer vpn

When picking a vpn to use its important to remember that nothing is 100% secure even if they say so so be careful with visiting some websites.
I use different vpns and am connected to CyberGhost or Torguard most of the time when visiting any bitcoin-related sites.

http://freesafeip.com/
https://i.imgur.com/JEIsI0z.png

Super vpn

NordVPN

I would recommend buying a VPS and installing VPN software on it, for example ShadowSocks. This is done easily. At the same time, you will have your own personal VPN, the settings of which will be handled only by you and no one will add anything to it.

I prefer "hide my name"

I used the Shadowsocks VPN, but you need to rent server somewhere for it.

Interesting to see so many suggestions but I find it harder to trust the less well known VPN’s. I probably prefer to go with the more mainstream choices, even though they are potentially not as good with privacy & spyware etc.

Nord is good

I would suggest octohide VPN, it's and ads free

nordvpn is the best among the paying ones, protonvpn is the best among the free ones

NordVPN or HMA really.

Although for the specific things, I'd recommend going with something more private and professional.

Octahide. Free and fast

VPN naming 1.1.1.1 is quite good that i am using