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Bro can you provide the direct eligius link?

For checkup ;)

Hey I'm interested in some shares. How can I get in contact with you?

So what will happen to the shares we bought if we bought less than 36 shares ?

So i buy shares, maybe 10, i receive dividend for the next 6 month then nothing else ?

It's dmg i haven't money for as much shares, should be better to sell after the 6 month period but np i'll pass this =)

i believe if you let the share holders vote , it would be the wisest decision since it would be unfair for the people with less share , lets say , i have 10 shares , he got 15 , he would get the machine and i would get nothing...If the item is sold , evryone would get what they deserve according to theyre shares

Dear btcmin0r1,
you are going to do a lot of money with this fee.
But what if difficulty go over 15% and BTC/USD down.
Have you free energy?

So, too much money with this fee  :P

And no one will want to receive miners at the end of the 6 months!
Please, help us poor mans :D !

Yes, it would.
I could buy some shares before midnight.

Just payed for 5 shares.
https://blockchain.info/search/d332bcf2dd9737069bcb767e511b39646452b3cdd16c518c9f221cc47486a3e9

Payout addr.: 14V9vZheHfNGBW1qjVL5BaVxEVZPVEA6EU

I'm not sure my nickname has been sent within the comment.
I don't know where is this feature with Multibit, sorry.

Thank you.

P.S. What's my ant? :D

I feel like I should poke my head in and remind people:

You are paying upfront for this service that is expected to last 6 months. There is little or no assurance/insurance against all the machines redirecting to a different address after a week or a month in and this relatively new member never coming back to the forums.

yes he actually has mining equipment right now - but that does not guarentee he will be active and remain on the forums and mining for you for 6 months after you paid in full upfront.

Again, there is no reason not to trust, but there is also no reason for blind faith

Good morning,
I'm facing this issue https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=369186.0
Trying to reset the blockchain, ...

Ok,
transaction wasn't propagated on the network.

Rescanning and rescanning, I'm ready to pay ( 7 shares ). I can use either Multibit and Bitcoin-qt, but please explain me how to add a comment/public note. Searching with google it look like is possible to add easily if you have a wallet on blockchain.info.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/4/4803732/someone-found-the-fbis-bitcoin-wallet-silk-road :D

I was already really interested in Armory, but my hardware lack of power for now.
Check this tx-id:
730ddd671fbde17c9111d53e562c077859f2717667bd613f27b56f745c7e6de6

We are going to change also the payout address, please confirm you keep note of this one:
1GhuhjdfdGa1Xvn7z4QWmhXpEsAxwW1DeB

Thank you.

Are you merged mining Namecoin on eligius.st ?

Hi,

I'd like to buy 36 Shares (1 Antminer)
Could I please have a unique address?

Thanks,

Payment has been made

TXID is

761682de67daa3c51e96e1025d54a70942f9d06510e8e0eb881d64eab54d480f

Thanks,

that's not what i was trying to say or imply.

Personally if I did hosting I would follow greaterNinja's method of a fixed payment per month (0.5BTC month 1, 0.3btc month 2, 0.1btc month 3, etc) so that the costs are paid on a basis of a monthly 'trust' rather than 100% up-front.

I can tell you have miners - in fact its a great setup :)  I will have 15 units myself by the end of the week and its exciting to build up the farm

Postcount does not make or break a reputation, but it does help distinguish newer users (or accounts) from those who have been using the same identitiy on a site for longer. my post here was just a suggestion of how to make the hosting service more transparent and help bring down the trust barrier associated with up-front payments

Transactions have been friendly and honest :)

Let's hope we have 6 months of trouble free mining :)

The final coins have been sent

TXID is 4b9ec9dc376150a15ffa7a2972919738b7e36ac59ccbac84464212fe986e8f3e

Thanks,

I was thinking to do the same
Can I ask for same conditions? :D

I think you was talking about the 111

Sorry,
I've to use better my mind and count.

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pics or it didn't happen.

Is this legit seems promising.

It was meant to be a joke - from me at least.

Don't know what the . was about

Just my advice don't take it personal I know you said not going to overclock but you are currently running at average 2.65Th/s If you overclock to 205Gh/s that's just over 3.075Th/s

You could then sell the shares between 2.65Th/s and 3 Th/s to pay for running costs ?

Or am I just totally missing this ?

I ran 12 Ants on 400Mhz for 4 Months straight not 1 single drop so they are reliable.

Just my opinion  ::)

Hi bitmin0r1,
I'm coming back to buy 33 shares more.
I can send to you 0.5 BTC, now and once I received the mined bitcoins that are pending on my eligius pages I will send you the remaing 0.416.

You can take for you/avoid to calculate what I've mined with my previous shares right now, if you agree to let me begin to mine with a full ant today. And for the further 4 share you'll care from the moment that the .416 are paied and confirmed.


What do you think?

Check this tx-id: https://blockchain.info/tx/329b2a1c801972c33a83721e62d81751de0cf30b2aeb7cb32c582c14ef79eb4b
Still continue to use this address as username on eligius, ok?
Let me say, if I could choose, ant 106!  :P

See! I'm learning :)

Hi, I want to buy 5 shares, can you give me an unique address?

Can I get 25 shares on 113? I'll buy the other 11 when I get more BTC...

I'm not sure I'll collect enough in 4 days... so I'll just take the 25 for now.... if that's ok...

tx=e79a286d81e06682119c9cb8a8d75f2914937e2ce82cbe9b4f9bf42e5323b8bc

Payout Address: 1LmTaL4mRDMqCwFDMkGtyP2C25vU26Hc6b

Thanks

Thank you

Can i get a total for 5 shares and a unique address please

I am interested in 36 shares. Please message me as soon as possible so we can get started. Thank you

No offense btcmin0r1, did you really think this through? Your are probably the most generous host who is working for very, very little pay. 6 months of babysitting 15 s1's which you are selling shares at equipment cost and you are only taking 8% of the mining? Do some math.

Profit from selling shares = $0
30 days of mining at current difficulty and BTC price = ~8BTC\$4,604 * 8% your cut = .64BTC\$368 a month(without factoring in inevitable difficulty changes)

You are essentially taking on a 6 month, 24/7 job of babysitting these things, making sure they stay up, dealing with broken equipment, figuring out payouts, dealing with unhappy shareholders..... to make .64BTC\$368 a month which will decrease with difficulty increases. Do you realize that 8% is 2.4 days of mining? Basically, if you keep all the profit and not sell shares, you would make the same amount in 2.4 days as you would selling shares and hosting at 30 days.

Let us break this down:   14.4 days (2 weeks) of doing pretty much nothing vs. 180 days (6 months) of labor to keep shareholders happy. Pick one, they both pay the same. I would go with the easier one.

I'm not trying to shoot you down, I'm actually trying to help you. Honestly, if I were you, I would refund what you sold and end this. This seems fun and cool right now, selling shares and shit, but in reality, it is dumb. Beware of what you are getting yourself into.

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Or, this hosting is too good to be true and you'll disappear once you sell enough shares. Your fee is too good to be true and shareholders would make out awesome while you suffer and take it in the rear. If anything, this smells like a scam, no offense.

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Or, lets say this is legit and are you are willing to put up with this 6 month burden for essentially no pay. Are you insane? To start, you set your fee as a percentage of the mining and a small percentage at that. That will decrease as difficulty goes up. You should be charging a flat fee in fiat to be paid out of the mined BTC at the price of the fiat per BTC at the time of payout. That's mistake 1. You are setting individual miners to shareholder's addresses and selling individual shares per actual physical miner? That doesn't work. That's mistake 2. Put it all in one pot and divvy it out after you pay yourself. Also, there will be guaranteed downtime. Why should certain shareholders suffer and not others. Plus, are you really going to figure out payouts per share per miner? Not possible. If I owned 36 shares and had a miner to myself, and it went down, I want to be reimbursed. Are you going to pay me out from the other miners? What if my miner completely breaks down? They do break. Do you have a backup miner for me or am I just shit out of luck? Do you have backup psu's? What about internet connection? What if that goes down? Do you have mobile hotspots as backup? I could go on and on.

Sorry, I've never hosted and never will, but common sense says this is amateur at best. To be goddamn honest, you don't know what the fuck you are doing and people buying shares should stop! Take my suggestion and send out refunds and just mine for yourself. All profit is yours. All downtime only effects your pocket. Nothing you could say could defend or justify you hosting or selling shares.  Give it up.

Remember, I'm actually trying to help you out!

Prove it.  Let's see your math.  Where is the ROI?  You bought 15 antminers and sold shares at cost.  Profit $0.  Your ROI is .021BTC a day until the difficulty changes then you make even less.  OK, so how much did you pay for the PSUs?  A bronze psu goes for $70 so the total for 15 is $1050 but I'm sure you paid more, right, because you care about your equipment and won't buy some crappy bronze psu, especially since it has to run for 6 months straight.  At current market price .021BTC is $12.15.  $1050/$12.15 is  86.4 days.  Congrats!!!! Not counting any other hardware that you put out of pocket like surge protectors, switches and wires, you'll break even in 86.4 days.  That is not a very good ROI.  

Let's see your math. Prove this wrong and I'll give you 0.028BTC, the price of a share.  I don't want the share, a gift for proving me wrong.

Also, how are you getting free electricity?  Is it included in your rent?  Good luck with it staying free once the landlord gets the bill.  15 not overclocked antminers uses roughly 5400w.  Here in the US, the average is $.15kWh.  So the bill in the US would be around $600 a month.



That's was the whole point of my post. I'm helping you to realize you have made a very poor choice.  Truth hurts!!!!


Because I'm trying to prevent people from buying shares.  1.  To help you out.  You shouldn't be doing this.  2.  To help them out because, regardless of this being a scam, you won't make 6 months.  You'll quit, especially with your ROI being $0.


This isn't a professional setting so saying fuck is perfectly fine, and it was used to make a point.  Also, your 8% profit .021BTC a day(after waiting the 86.4 days) won't buy you any Th/s.


Yeah, I thought about throwing you a couple shares because the hosting and fee was too good to be true. It wasn't until I saw you had no clue what you were doing that I changed my mind.  When you actually changed the miner to point to some "shareholder's" wallet and then selling shares attached to actual miners, I knew to stay away.  If you are legit, you are making the worst business decisions possible.  What are you going to do when that shareholder who has his own miner says that he got hacked and all his bitcoins were stolen and he can't pay you your 8% share.  Are you just gonna take his miner away? Is it that simple, huh?  What if he is telling the truth? What if he's lying? Bad bad bad decisions.  Put it in a pot, take your cut(a percentage<-another poor decision), pay the shareholders.  Your way is godawful and opens the door to a ton of bullshit for you and the shareholders.

You are doing it wrong and the poor people who are buying shares or might buy shares need to know this.  On paper, shareholders benefit greatly and you don't at all. Your ROI is $0 and once you realize that, you'll probably quit.  

Remember, I'm actually trying to help you out!

^im inclined to agree. a percentage cut is an odd way to operate, espescially when after 2-3 months it will be a very small cut, and dissapearing with the miners starts to look like an easy way out.

perhaps his ants have already ROI'd, what he's collecting now is BTC to... say perhaps buy an S2 or two...

It looks like he just bought them from bitmain.


I know I'm coming off as a dick, but I'm really telling the truth.  He's looking at a good amount of work and potential out of pocket expenses with zero ROI. So, even if he is not scamming, he has no incentive to stay honest with the shareholders.  Once he realizes he is doing all this work for free, he's an idiot if he doesn't take the miners and bitcoins and run.

ssssssshhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Be careful people, this post seems like ponzi scheme and I remember minewithmind, an italian scammer

I'll keep repeating it until you prove me wrong. Why would you host 15 antminers for 6 months for zero ROI?  Let's see the math.  How are you benefiting or profiting from doing this. You're not! Making 8% from the mining is crap.

This here proves that you are clueless...


You let Drai dictate what you should charge for your hosting.  Really, really? Some stranger posts that you are charging too much so you cater to him and change the price. Now tell the truth, did you really think this through and actually calculate the viability?  No, you didn't.  Honestly, if you sell all the shares and don't disappear, you're a fool working for 6 months for free.  

My.028BTC offer is still on the table.  Show me how you profit and the money is yours.  The only profit you would make is by stealing the bitcoins paid for shares and disappearing.

BEWARE!!

@lowerjerzey who said it's zero ROI?
First, you don't have a 100% warranty that in 6 months you can make 1 BTC from an antminer.
In this way btcmin0r is 100% sure that will make 1 BTC + 8% weekly profit

With the 15 BTC that he has got back (now, and not after 130 days), he can get more powerful hardware

Um, he didn't make 15BTC he made zero. He's only getting the equipment paid for. But, he's still in the red. Don't forget the psu's, extra fans, wire, switches, and the biggest cost, time. The miner won't make any return until he sells it. Even then, the prices of the s1 are dropping significantly so you can count that out. In a few months, the s1 is a door stopper. He's living in a fantasy world. He has this grandiose idea of hosting hardware, but so far he's doing a piss poor job. His pricing is bad(for him) and the way he's handling his shares is idiotic. Why would anyone want to buy shares with such poor management? This has abandonment written all over it.


Don't forget you have a post history.  You haven't owned these that long.  You tried to buy a cube in January and may have bought from sushi in Feb. That's a BIG maybe because you were asking him when they will become available again, so you probably missed the window. You talk about Bitmain coupons a few weeks ago, so yeah, I'd say you've owned these for a couple weeks.  So, you did probably only pay roughly 1BTC for each from Bitmain and you haven't made that much BTC in the past couple weeks. So in the time frame of you owning these, you might have paid 2 off.  Big deal, you own 15 of them.

I think I made my point over and over again and doubt anyone with half a brain will buy shares from you. Why?

you = zero incentive to host for 6 months because your ROI is essentially zero(a diminishing 8% is essentially zero because you do have other costs)
a potential shareholder = shouldn't trust that you will honor the 6 months while you work for free
people who already bought shares = buyers remorse

I truly feel sorry for you. You do not know what you are doing.

lowerjerzey WTF
why you insist on this post so much?
go to bug other topics.
For example there's a guy who is selling shares of an antminer, and then he will do free hosting with no profit whatsoever. And he didn't order the machine yet.
Why don't you go there to give your great opinion?

it's all a question of demand and offer.
If he charges a flat fee for hosting, then it's not profitable for shareholders after 2 months, and an antminer needs at least 4-5 months to ROI.
Consider that he has now 15 antminer and he's using most of them for his own mining (the first month is the most valuable)
So, if someone else gets 36 shares, btcmin0r1 has already made a profit from that antminer (suppose 0.2 BTC) + full ROI + 8%
Here is his profit!
It's not, like many others are doing, gather money first, and then starting mining. His setup is already working!

You're such an analyst, go to tell your valuable opinion on the ninja group buy topic
1 TH for $3300 + $250 monthly.
It's a great offer for him, but not for shareholders, it's impossible to get money back with that insane hosting fees.

+1... go troll elsewhere lowerjerzey

I post so no one buys shares. It's actually to protect him and potential buyers who aren't thinking clearly. Mission accomplished. His 8% is actually zero. I think I explained why it is zero pretty clearly.  What he's made so far in BTC probably only paid off the psu's so the antminers aren't paid for. He's in denial of this and so are you because you actually bought shares. He's doing it wrong and you know it. Look at my first post and read the first sentence.


Too generous to the point of idiocy. He's working for free and has all the incentive in the world to abandon his shareholders. Ninja's hosting is spot on. He's doing it right. He's providing a service for a flat fee, thus, guaranteeing his own payment.  He lays out all the ground rules and sets reasonable time frames. He has backups(he sell's s1's) and makes guarantees. If you don't think it is profitable, then don't buy from him.  But, he does sell out.  His 1Th $3300 + $199 is actually a great deal but only if the miners get delivered in the advertised time frame. The risk a purchaser is taking is in the waiting for delivery. If he had them in hand, I would have bought one.

You're lucky you only bought 5 shares. Just hope that the antminer connected to your shares(this is so dumb) doesn't break down. I see no guarantee of him replacing it.  He doesn't have backups because I asked him and he didn't say that he does.

I know you feel the remorse and feel the need to defend this, it won't last, stop denying it. And if it does, that is great. But that makes btcmin0r1 the stupidest, but generous host I've ever seen.

Just in case there are new people reading this and tl;dr

BEWARE!!! This host has no incentive to keep hosting for 6 months.
May abandon shareholders.
Read my posts!

I think I agree with lowerjerzey
This group buy makes no sense unless it is a scam.

lowerjerzey, nobody asked your opinion
go to this post to dispense your wisdom and GTFO
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526793.msg5847577#msg5847577


for everyone else: do this:
https://i.imgur.com/x23UNhP.png

Ok, since lowerjerzey is an asshole, I explain how this can be profitable for bitmin0r1:

Assuming he sells all the shares today, he makes 16.5 BTC, 15 BTC from the shares and 1.5 from the 8% fee
When he bought them? Two weeks ago? That means he made 3 BTC. So, 3 BTC + 15 BTC from the shares + 1.5 BTC from the 8% fee
19.5 BTC paying 15 BTC, and, most importantly, getting most of the money RIGHT NOW, not after 140 days!!!
Here is the ROI you're searching for!

PSU costs? That costs are fixed, they can be used for the next miner or somewhere else!

Moreover, not all slots are sold: on unsold shares, his cut is 100%. This means the output from ELEVEN antminers is going to his pockets. It's 0.2 BTC for every day!

Happy now? Now that you got the cost analysis and saw that it's profitable, you can send me the cost of a share. Thanks
1CmUws4kMJTEdCSgEAKvFKdTEkK6CZAbqQ

"your" is the wrong way of writing it.
It is You Are.
Your(s) implies to something that belongs to you.
Also, btcmin0r1 you are quite new your self, so don't start the newbie discussion.

That being said, this thread has attracted my attention and I must say this:

@Forexperiments what is your take in this? apart from 5 shares which means jack shit.
I have also noticed that you are Italian and also registered at more or less the same time as OP.
Are you the same person?
Apart from that, ARE YOU minewithmind but with a new username and scheme?
If you are, you obviously got lot's of coins from your previous scam so you could buy 15 Ants.
And if you are, apparently you are getting too greedy.
Not good....

I could be wrong here, but somehow my experience tells me that lowerjerzey is right.

 

Watch out, we have a grammar nazi here
OP is clearly not from an english-speaking country (I have no idea which though)

My take is 0.14 BTC for 5 shares
I paid because what btcmin0r1 wrote gave me trust. I took a calculator and I saw that his group buy has gains for the seller and the shareholders, while most of the group buys (with hosting included) has gains only for the seller (ninja) or has gains only for the shareholder and hence it is scam


LOL, this claim is ridiculous

Buyers remorse, I get it.  Your calculation is wrong. He paid 15 BTC, he makes 15 BTC from sales, profit so far = zero. Mining, ok I'll give you 3 BTC, fine.  3BTC - psu's - switches - wires - fans - probably those shelves - miscellaneous = zero profit so far.  If he sells all his shares, he no longer owns those antminers.  What he does own is 8% of the mining, 15 psu's, 15 fans, and a bunch of miscellaneous hardware clear and free, with no profit made thus far.  The diminishing 8% or 0.021BTC per day is no incentive for him to keep hosting. In 11 days, if the total hashrate trend doesn't change, his 8% turns into 0.017BTC per day. It's all downhill from here. In a month from now, I bet it will be 0.009. You really think that this guy will want to continue to host for peanuts. Your fooling yourself and so is he.


BEWARE!!! This host has no incentive to keep hosting for 6 months.
May abandon shareholders.
Read my posts!

Is my claim really ridiculous?
How do you know who minewithmind is?

Why won't I call that guy out, because that sale is dumb. He's selling 1Gh/s shares of 1 antminer for crumbs. Dumb. If someone is stupid enough to buy shares, they deserve to throw away coins. As for this sale, this guy does seem to have a decent farm. But, the terms of his sale and the management of the shares are asinine and anyone considering this should be warned. I warned them. Done.

BEWARE!!! This host has no incentive to keep hosting for 6 months.
May abandon shareholders.
Read my posts!

I have no idea who's this guy

So are you saying that 8 good PSU (or 15 cheap psu) and ONE 16 port switch are worth $1800?

Do you? Really?

And you have invested BTC0.14 and are backing this guy up more than he does himself?

There is the possibility of redemption. You can have your dream of hosting hardware, but do it right.
1. Refund all sold shares.
2. Set a flat fee in fiat. <-this gains trust and guarantees you a profit. A diminishing percentage doesn't.
3. Under cut competitors but still make it worth your while.
4. Set a shorter term limit. 6 months is too long. Do maybe 3, or even 2.
5. Pay yourself weekly from the pot. Convert your fee to btc, then take that amount. Divvy out the rest.
6. Transparency is key. Disclose how you obtain your "free electricity". If it's through a landlord, you are definitely going to have a problem.
7. Make guarantees.  Do you have backup equipment? Are you paying for down time? What if you die, who takes over?
8. Take advise from others. This is your biggest problem.

Sorry man, but I called you out and you didn't like it. You were blinded by the excitement of starting your farm and selling shares. You didn't fully think this through and you half assed the terms, the price, payout, and share management. I came off harsh and punched you in your pride and you got highly offended, understandable. But, you can be redeemed. Suck it up, take my advise, and start over.

Or, this is a scam.

Buyers remorse, I get it.
3BTC                $1800 -
15 decent psu's  $1500
1 16 port switch $ 150
15 decent fans   $ 150
miscellaneous     $ pick a number

total                 $0 -  pick a number

or he's a terrible host buying terrible equipment

3BTC                $1800 -
15 crap psu's     $1000
1 crap switch     $ 75
15 crap fans      $ 75
miscellaneous     $ pick a number

total                 $650 - pick a number

If he bought crap equipment, then he definitely sucks.

Exactly. I totally wrecked this sale and Forexperiments has more to say than the host. Weird.

Really. Because when people is insisting on a topic makes me mad.
I understand that you might think that this is a scam. Stop repeating that.
In my opinion this isn't a scam, before investing I calculated my cut and his cut and I saw that this will bring benefits to both of us

A flat fee as lowerjerzey is proposing makes the lease not worth anymore after 60 days, and after 60 days the shares won't pay back.
lowerjerzey, are you an expert in hosting mining rigs? Do you have experience? How many rigs do you manage?

Suppose a flat fee of $25 per each antminer
this is what a shareholder will get after paying the fee:
march: 0.08 BTC
april: 0.39 BTC
may: 0.25 BTC
june: 0.14 BTC
july: 0.08 BTC
august: 0.03 BTC
september: 0
october: not worth

Total: the shareholder just wasted its time, he will get just 0.97 BTC back after 6 months. Great ROI!!!

Uh, why are you speaking for the host. Your way, you benefit while the host gets screwed and does all the leg work. Zero incentive for the host to stay honest. Just stop. If the host is willing to do it your way, then he is dumb. Why would he do all the work for you to profit while he makes scraps? No incentive.  My way, shorten the term, collect the guaranteed fee, sell the equipment.  He definitely profits while you hope to ROI. It's called risk. The host will have zero risk. He gets paid. The shareholders take on the risk while the host does the work. Duh.

If you are making that much then why sell shares?

Don't get me wrong I have a small farm of Ants my self but I didn't go all out to sell shares because it is in my best interest to keep mining for me now.
When it's not, then I will sell shares.
But doing it now doesn't make sense unless you own a proper datacenter like Ninja does, which you don't.

 

That's the thing....

S2 batch 3 is not open yet so you can produce the coins you need by then.....

Pride, love it. You won't sell anymore shares, that is guaranteed. You have proven you are stubborn and have something to hide or you are just plain dumb. You are unwilling to take my excellent advice. Oh well, I tried. I won't post anymore.  But here's a question that should be answered...

How are you getting free electricity?



Exactly! Why is he selling shares? That was my whole point to begin with. Honestly, by his pricing and the way he just hands over his miners to shareholders, he might just be very generous!


BEWARE!!! This host has no incentive to keep hosting for 6 months.
May abandon shareholders.
Read my posts!

You still haven't answered the question...

How comes you have FREE electricity?

That is the answer I needed to call this a SCAM!!!!

Zing. He got you S4VV4S. Don't post anymore.  Let it fall off the front page. It's dead.

BEWARE!!! This host is delusional and has no incentive to keep hosting for 6 months.
May abandon shareholders.
Read my posts!

If you are talking about my rating then PEOPLE PLEASE DO READ IT INCLUDING THE REFERENCE!!!!
I already broke down one scammer, you are next!!!!

That is exactly what I did and my main man jerzey nailed it.
It is NOT profitable for you, therefor a SCAM.

Hi btcmin0r1,
I've payed all of the S1 with these 0.318
Here the tx-id: 88405c65ad0049f928ceb17c4e4ce59652e34359cd1ea8c2f18d507b0606e0fa

0.098 left, I'm waiting to be mature in my wallet. Let me know if we can start with these 4 shares.

Payout address thanks!
1A9jbdcu3VqFFAz4kyEFruPLTvJVPEo6Sq

Im defiantly not a fake share holder if thats what you implying!

Hi bitmin0r1,
I'm going to do another payment,
Can we calculate also payout and shares fee, so that everything is included in one transaction?

We have 0.0758477*8/100=0.006067816 for the S1 mining on my address during this week.
So 0.098 + 0.006067816 = 0.104067816 what I'have to pay

For the 4 shares we have: maintaining your 3-hour average hash rate of 2,124.76 Gh/s is 0.21342108 BTC per day... 0.006028845 for three days, like you said me.
Less fee: 0.0055465374

0.104067816 - 0.0055465374
I paied you: 0.0985212786 (https://blockchain.info/tx/34cd9f094d529eea15cb1293b8e01ba444ed14c985fd86952fe096bbb3592e8e)

Just a heads up for anyone interested in this deal so far

OP has been honest with all his dealing and his service has been running solid since I bought the shares

It's a shame the troll sullied the thread like he did.. The OP doesn't deserve it

Thanks. Confirmed it's hashing to my pool of choice.

cheers!

Troll? Hardly. All I did was point out how this sale was poorly planned and executed. This host has shown he can't be trusted and that he lacks the mental capacity to run a business correctly. I'm glad I put doubt into potential buyers. I should have posted sooner because you probably wouldn't have made a purchase. Come on, do you really think that this guy will continue to get free electricity? But, you won't answer that will you because you're invested. You'll just call me a troll and hope that he won't disappear when his landlord (or parents) hands him a huge electric bill. 8% of mining won't put a scratch in it. He's attempting to take advantage of his landlord (or parents)  so he does deserve what I've done. And when he disappears, you deserve it for taking advantage of him. No one gets free unlimited electricity and no true business minded person who wishes to stay in business is this generous to customers unless he is stupid. Don't invest in stupid. This is setup to lose.

Everything that is related to Bitcoin including hosting, mining, trading is going to have some form of risk associated with it.

It's up to the individual that is taking that risk to analyse the information and make a decision based on their best reasoning.

This whole network is built on trust and when you are new and untested you need people to calculate that risk and take a chance. I speak with him often (actually most days) on Skype and to me he seems like a genuine human being.

If for whatever reason that the deal goes sour I would hope that he would do his best to compensate the people involved with his shares.
I also just like to have a bit of trust in good ol' fashion fucking humanity as well

It takes a special person like you to come rampaging in (throwing out accusations as you have we can see in the thread below) that are based purely on your own speculation. He has no need to divulge any information to you when you come charging in to the thread like that..

If you are skeptical of the deal everyone is in their right to question the details but if you're not smart enough to do it properly then you are doing a massive disservice to the Bitcoin community. You have no further reason to post in this thread now other to apologise to the OP and conduct yourself with a bit of civility

Yeah, me personally doing disservice to the bitcoin community by pointing out how asinine this deal is for the host and that he shouldn't do it and that he should just keep what he mines for himself? He doesn't benefit at all from selling shares, you benefit.  Who's the scumbag, me for pointing that out, or you for taking advantage of someone who seems to not know any better?

I knew you would avoid the whole questionable free electricity thing. Good research and speculation done by you. Did you notice the way he poorly handles shares, his own hardware, and his measly 8% of mining? Good research and speculation done by you. Lowering his price because someone cried, no alarms went off in your head? None? Why, because he doesn't know what he's doing, he set his fee way too low, and you jumped on it. You, my friend, are the problem. I was his solution. You are taking advantage of him because he doesn't know any better and I tried to help. Oh well.

You should apologize for taking advantage of him. He has shown over and over and over again that he doesn't know any better. Have fun raping him while he lets you.

Or, this is a scam and he'll disappear once he sells enough of these too good to be true, shares.

You're embarrassing yourself now and I feel that arguing this point any further with you would be like playing chess with a Pigeon

Feel free to look that one up..

I'm not going to willingly ruin this thread unless I come across any tangible and substantiated claims

Here's one, free unlimited electricity. Does it exist? Go ahead and avoid the question again just like the host is.

No home setup can have 6000 W of power without anyone noticing immediately
So, it must be something else. Solar panels, work place (for example my boss is perfectly fine that I'm mining scrypt 24/7 at work with a 800W rig), or else, not my business what. Many ways to have unlimited free energy.
And, according to my calculations, an antminer is profitable with paid electricity until the end of september, so he doesn't really need to have it free (but of course if he has free electricity that's better for him, has more profits, because, in my country, the cost for 15 antminers mining 6 months is $3500)

I talked with him via PM and he looks really honest, I trust him.
Payment for last week mining arrived very quickly.

What is this, like a tag team of stupidness? I ask a very simple question and everyone but the host has an answer. Solar panels? Even if he did have them, it would not be enough to generate the electricity these things need to run 24/7. Also, he'd make more money by shutting off the miners and selling the electricity back to the power company(after he spent $15k - $20k on installing them). He is ripping someone off whether it be his landlord, his parents, his employer, or the actual power company. Keep on defending this thief for your benefit.

Or, he is actually paying for the electricity which makes this totally hilarious!

cr4sh0verride ups his raping. Good job! What is sad is that the thief btcmin0r1 doesn't even realize that he's being raped. And sadder that he set it up that way.

Not sure how he got totally free electricity but I only pay usd20 per month for electricity. My 2nd home meter broke and I call the power company and invite them to fix it but they never came. So they simply just send me a bill of usd20 per month as estimation. Hint: it only happen in southeast asia. :)

So, it's super secret? Why? What are you hiding?

I'm just gonna flat out call you the stupidest host in existence and it reflects in no one making purchases except for existing shareholders who were already invested. You are stealing electricity and I can't wait until you get caught. Your share management is the worst. Setting miners to shareholders wallets is so goddamn stupid and only a fool would not think so. Your dwindling 8% of mining fee shows your low IQ and no one with a brain is going to invest because you can't trust an idiot.

But now I'm conflicted. Your failure in this godawful sale means you are benefiting greatly with the mining. So, I'm going to flip and endorse the sale. I'll delete all my posts. Hopefully you will sell all your shares and the only source of BTC income will be the dwindling, measly 8% of mining which will turn into zero in a couple months. That will be hilarious.


Could someone pretend to be interested and then post how he is obtaining free electricity? .01BTC to whoever posts a screen shot of his response! .05BTC if you record a skype conversation with this dummy! Post his skype user name and proof that it is really him. PM me.

His original post.

His edited post.

Wow, free electricity is a super secret.

His original post.


There you have it

I really want this not to be a scam. I really want to buy 5-10 shares.

I just can not bring myself to do so, my hart says good deal my head says once most of the shares have gone so will the op.

All is IMHO but sorry no

Troll. Hardly.

Who's the genius that handed an obvious mentally incapable person with no business sense 1BTC? Me or you?

You know that you can collect the bounty. I don't discriminate to stupidity.  How does he get free electricity?  You are invested, so you should know. Don't you want to know? Nope, you'll just continue to ignore this one huge detail which is the only basis that the host can keep the mining alive. You'll call me a troll again and hope that he doesn't disappear when his electricity theft is discovered. Keep trying.

hi, if i buy shares now, when will that contract expired?
6 months from now?
and do i get payment every week to my BTC address?

I know a lot of people are calling you a troll for constantly posting, maybe it is time to back off a bit and let this run its course?

I agree with you, this is an odd deal. Its a very long-term hosting that has pretty tight profit margins for btcmin0r1, particularly after the first 2-3 months. There is a definite incentive for him in that he keeps the gear at the end, but as mentioned it really requires FREE power for him to make any real gains from this, and also there is nothing holding him back from dissapearing after paying 1-2 week's dividends and then re-joining with a new forum id that is unscathed.

but even if legitimate, the free power is a big concern. Ive considered selling shares of my own 3TH+ setup, and would not do it at the rates charged in this thread (partly because i do pay for power). having almost 6kW of power draw raises red flags for whoever's power he is using, unless it is being 'borrowed' from a private entitiy such as a school or a business (either owned by btcmin0r1 or a close friend so that power is a part of that business's expenses - which is illegal if you were to ask the IRS). Otherwise, he is stealing power from somebody or his landlord who is going to catch on fast when power bills go up by $300/month

I won't say its a scam, but i will urge people to be cautious and do their due-dilligence before they invest money

wow - i was trying to clarify that he needs not be so aggressive about his argument, even though i 100% agree with the fundamental point of it; which is that this is an odd form of contract to get into by giving hundreds of dollars to a forum member in the expectation that 2, 4 or 6 months from now it will still be enforced even when you are only making a few dollars to run all this equipment for people despite having all the money up-front weeks or months earlier.

I just want to make sure people all keep caveat emptor in mind - the internet and these forums in particular have claimed a lot of scam victims in the last few months and anyone interested in your hosting should make sure they understand all the risks involved before blindly investing 100% up-front.

Your response seems out-of-line. it did not answer any of the questions or concern raised, and brushes them off as pathetic trolling. I run antminers myself, they are great machines, but I would never ask someone to pay several months of hosting up-front for a service where you are inexplicably getting free electricity

This the fee for my ant this week:  0.0078361392 ( more or less )

You should do red text. It has impact. Green, meh.
So threatening to abandon shareholders is turning the tables on us "trolls"?  Probably was your plan all along. I'm glad we prevented you from scamming more people. Bye bye now.

Wow, I glanced over this one. Damn, used the r word.  This coming from the same guy who called me unprofessional for saying "you have no fucking clue what you are doing."

Now you want addresses? For what? You need me to give you a hug?

ok lowerjerzey,
what if I write in red, any time I post in this thread,
"THIS IS A SCAM!
BE AWAY! I'M HERE BECAUSE I LIKE TO BE SCAMMED
PLEASE BE CAREFUL IF YOU WANT TO BUY HERE"
( Please correct my english )
Can you accept to not post any more?
If would not be enough, how many of us do you want that do this, for you to be away?

looking to send you final payments but... you say not? And my ant stopped... I wish people would leave this thread who are not involved.

This is becoming a very unfortunate situation now...

I can understand that the conduct in this thread has been less than exemplary but it's quite clear what happened today (or what has happened so far)

At around the same time my two miners went down the pool on the address
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/14An2Q3wUtzcpCAD3Qt4AzUyLPGcdqiyrN
Went back up to full speed (which is about 2650GHS - 15 x 180GHS miners)

The terms as I understood were reasonable and his access to free power seemed legitimate.
I defended him against the accusations and I don't think this is the best way to treat the shareholders.

I only ask now that whoever responds to this post now to keep it civil and constructive only

From here I would like to appeal to reasonable discourse and try to salvage what this has become
I think in all fairness now each shareholder should be able to pay their final fees and have their initial deposits refunded and put this down to a learning experience

He hasn't come on Skype at all today but if/when he does I will be speaking to him there...

Thanks,

Well it's been on 24 hours now and he hasn't appeared on Skype

Before today he would be on everyday and I would talk to him

To say that I'm shattered would be an understatement and if not to add salt to the wound not only did he contact me a few hours prior to him disconnecting all the shares of the miners but he is mining on the same address he started with...
As a taunt to say that I took advantage of you :(

I've got that sinking feeling in my gut it's not the best

But lower jersey he had to say "green text, meh"
I blame my 0.128 BTC loss to him
Hell, you're so annoying!
You literally persuaded him to leave!!!!
What the hell!

edit: I was using btcointalk from the phone and I was reading another trust

Bahahaha!  Wow the stupidity keeps going. Um, try this was his plan all along. Even after he faked audiocartwall, money was still handed over to this guy. What is absolutely hilarious is that you don't even know if him and I were both playing you? Do you? I may even be btcmin0r1. That guy on Skype, could have been me. Maybe it was me? Dunt dun Dunnnnnn. Mystery.

Or, you are fake, crash override is fake, all the share holders are fake and no harm no foul.  Glad no real persons were harmed in this trickery.

Or, you are real and crash override is real and you are out the money. You know what I have to say about that, shame on all you stupid asses who stuck up for this douche. "But, but I talked to him on Skype, he's like not shady, and like totally honest." Well you know what, you could have cost more people money. Shame!

But, you'll continue to blame me for driving "mister too good to be true host who gets free electricity" away. You will continue to think that "mister nice, cheap host who will work for free" wasn't out to scam. Keep telling yourself that. You should be thanking me for uncovering this guy early before you handed over more cash. Yeah, that won't happen.

Yeah, thanks for let us lose 5 BTC
Happy now?
Get the fuck out of here now
You talk like an expert in mining, but from your history, you only posted here. From all the topics that are in the forum, why insist so much in this topic???
Go to buy your shares with your friend MWNinja, that's so profitable for him, a guaranteed loss for shareholders.

This is (was, thanks to you), the ONLY group share that's profitable for BOTH parties

I was almost certain he was going to come back with a response like that

Didn't prove me wrong that's for sure.. and as bad as this situation is he is of course acting as a child would..
From his previous responses it's not surprising.

It's good to know that the Moderators are doing their job here as well after reporting you for your conduct.. not a peep
Although I will follow up to see if they can check if you are posting from the same account or you have similar IP addresses

Maybe you will be a man of your word here is the Skype chat with him explaining the free power

http://i60.tinypic.com/2pz064i.jpg

You can send the 0.06BTC to 1FXUcLhvuZia7ZdhjqqSiWNd5pgBYeQJGr

Anyway moving on..

From here all we can do is follow the BTC's now
We have all the addresses we sent BTC to we can monitor them and if he uses them to transfer to a known address we might be able to find out a bit more

Ummm, you're welcome? I think.

You scumbag piece of crap.  You knew this thief was a liar this whole time and you actually defended him.

There is nothing good at all in that conversation you just posted.

1. He's admitting theft. His boss does not own that company.  If his boss is OK with the theft and invested, then the boss is a thief too you dumbass. But, anybody with a half a brain knows that this is a lie. Which brings me to the second point.

2. You didn't call him on it. He works for the electric company? Really? Really? You believed that? His boss gave him permission to steal from the company? And also invested in the thievery? Again, you believed that?

So, you knew about the theft and were OK with it and you didn't have the brain capacity to question such a stupid lie as in "free electricity because I work for the electric company and my boss is OK with it and is invested." Jeez, a child has more common sense than you.


Reread the terms of my bounty. First, the .05 is to record a skype conversation, you know, talking with your mouth not typing. Also, record it as in get him on video.

You can still get the .01BTC. Show more proof that this skype is him and that this is not just you talking to yourself. Then I'll send it. Simple... record a video of your computer monitor where in a browser, you click on your "My Messages" then click on the PM he sent you with his skype name. It's that easy. I won't accept any screen shots because photoshopping is easy.  The act of actually clicking on links in your browser, in a video, not so easy to fake.

You can also collect the .05BTC. You can apologize to your so called bitcoin community for your action of actually sticking up for this crook. Admit to being stupid enough to believe that he actually worked for the electric company. Admit that you are wrong for actually endorsing this sale, thus endorsing his electricity theft. Admit to being stupid enough to believe lies told by anonymous people on the internet. Admit to being a poor judge of character. And lasty, admit to being selfish and naive and that I, lowerjerzey, was right, and that you, cr4sh0verride were wrong.

An easy .06BTC.

lowerjerzey you're a scammer
you didn't state those terms in your "bounty".
that is the screenshot of the conversation, and, as you said, that's enough for the 0.01BTC

You don't pay? So, this is the natural reply:


Pay or go the F off!!!

Reread the terms. Proof is needed for the bounty to be paid. A screen shot of a conversation that you have with yourself is not proof. Try again. Simple. Video the computer monitor while clicking on the pm which shows that this is his Skype username. See, it's easy.

Belive me, how can i prove im not a fake. ive now lost out

I only ask that people in this thread don't lower themselves to his standard.

I posted the picture in jest. I have no interested in proving to YOU that it's real nor do I really want any of your money.
It was actually when he started talking about that when I did start to get suspicious.

I treat everyone with an innocent until proven guilty approach and in this case I made a mistake.. I also already admitted it...
After calls to keep the conversation civil it's clear you have no intention of that.. In fact I would go as so far to say you have a superiority complex that in a medium such as a chat forum about a cryptocurrency can be reinforced so easily. I won't play on it sorry whatever unresolved issues you have you need to take them out on someone else. I am also not going to discuss the legitimacy of his claims either other than if you think that there aren't industries in which your jobs can come with certain perks...

Actually in all honesty what job do you actually do? Do you even have one?
What country are you from and how old are you?

I'm not one of those people that threaten violence by asking for your address etc. I'm just honestly interested in the demographics of people like you

I just posted this in the scam forums as well

I think he may have used his real name a lot of the information lines up with things you can find online

If he truly was in SK gaming and played CS then some of those team members may still be around. We might be able to get in contact with one and find a sympathetic ear

His forum name is btcminor01

Email was btcminor01@outlook.com

His Skype name was Yannik Bindo
He said he worked for a large Power company in Belgium

If you look at his previous posts on the forums he was using his Bitcoins to gamble and if you google his name these sites come up

http://www.esportsearnings.com/players/5465-luce-yannik-milembo/comparisons

and it looks like he plays Counter-Strike as well http://www.sk-gaming.com/player/523-Luce

All these confirm that there is almost definitely someone in Belgium with this name

Oh and here is a lovely picture of him!

http://blackmonstercup.com/eu/lol/bmc/spring/pl_qualifier/player/1068670/

In my opinion his intentions were good, but he  pissed off by the attacks.
As I said, with the difficulty increases, it's not 100% sure that an Antminer will pay off. His plan was to get 100% of the money back plus a small share. As I calculated before, he could have made up to 20 btc with a 15 btc investment (since psu and networking stuff will be reused)

I still hope that he'll come back...
I'll wait one week before declaring him as a scammer

I'm giving him some time to cool off too as he mentioned in his last post... but thanks for all the info on him. Hopefully he regains his composure and makes things right, because I'm sure he wouldn't fare too well if we start poking around employers, friends etc...

He isn't coming back...

He took the time to log in and delete every single one of his posts
I honestly hope he saw my post about who he was as I think he used his real name on Skype for some sort of legitimacy

He isn't on Facebook or any of the other social media sites I checked out

And if it was his plan all along to leave because people were questioning his legitimacy then it's either extremely convenient or that you have a new(ish) member who seems to be so concerned about scammers and yet these forums are rampant with scam accusations and he chose to focus on this one specifically

I ask if a Moderator is reading this if possible to check the IP's that have been logged for btcminor01 and lowerjerzey to see if they correspond
Hell even if they are in the same subnet that's going to be mighty suspicious

All his miners are offline now as well
Probably moved to a different account

I will keep an eye on his original address that still has 9 Bitcoins or so in it

We are creating a world where no one can trust in nobody.

This is very dangerous.

 >:(
I took months to mine those 0.14 BTC with my gpu
I'm lucky I didn't invest more

We can make a club

lovely,

This was his eligius:

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/14An2Q3wUtzcpCAD3Qt4AzUyLPGcdqiyrN

My share is still where I sent two weeks ago
https://blockchain.info/address/1NxsEQ6UhN5ET6XMASpS3SiHpTw1mLajHz

I received the first (and last, thanks to lowerjerzey timing - couldn't you wait 18 hours?) payment from this address:
https://blockchain.info/address/1CNsFvq1Vv9FoB9qnCH7FTeAEifL2kyWZy

I truly hope this guy turns the Ants back on and says this was his "warning."  It is getting harder and harder to find trustworthy people in this community. I was scammed out of $2300 about a month ago so I definitely understand your frustration.

I can tell you that monitoring the wallet address is useless since it very easy conceal BTC movement. Part of the advantages of BTC can also be used maliciously unfortunately.

So the moderators know about this now?

I've sent them PM's to get the IP addresses registered against them so I can contact the ISP
He used his real name on Skype...

Is this not possible at all?

Best bet is to contact some of the leading a big power companies and give them an FYI, that if this person is working for them, he's ripped people off as well he's sucking power from them for free.

I've already checked into that..

There is very little information on who actually provides the power in Belgium.

Half of which I can't read and doesn't translate properly...
Not as easy as it would be here in Australia to track it down

No moderator has that ability, only theymos can do that and he would likely not.

why didnt you noobs see this scam from beginning ?

Next time look at the business model and if its unfeasible then its a scam. Business is to make money not charity. Greed blinded you and now you paid for the lesson.

Just move on.

I don't see why you shouldn't be able to get that
It's a public address he doesn't own it.. it's assigned by his ISP.. There are no privacy laws broken by providing that information

Also great attitude to have and it's good to see Senior members being such pillars of the community

If there is nothing left to do then delete this thread and the bad guy wins... in despite of our obvious stupidity for trusting him

And take that as an lesson.

You talking to me? I don't have any such access I said. Only the forum administrators do and you have to appeal to them. Don't take out your frustration on me.

too good to be true + internet forum + upfront payment + failure to disclose important info like the 'free electricity' (which would otherwise cost $350+ per month)

sigh

because the business model was not unfeasible, as I calculated here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522761.msg5911900#msg5911900
shareholders already knew how he could get free energy (but seeing how I was treated after defending him, and losing my face like an idiot, I really hope that they will bust him and fire him. I also hope that his stolen antminers have a short circuit and ignite his f**king flat)

It was absolutely unfeasible as per my reply to your so called "calculations" here...


and here...


I actually started to feel bad until the idiocy continued.

1. He doesn't work for the electric company of Belgium. I can't believe that you actually believe that.
2. You have no idea if Yannik Bindo is his real name or a real person.  The real Yannik Bindo may have just been set up. Yannik Bindo Milembo has zero online presence. I searched him, his gaming buddies, and his brother Cedric. Him and his brother have zero online presence except for gaming tournament results and gambling stats "from 8 years ago!" His buddies, on the other hand, have youtube channels and google+ accounts. I bet if you contact them and inquire about him, they'll probably say something crazy like him and his brother were killed in a car accident years ago.

edit: If he used his real birthday, which was probably required by the gambling/gaming tournament sites, he was 18 when the only signs of his existence appear on the web.

2nd edit: Which makes him a perfect candidate to pretend to be when scamming.
Or, he truly is a dumbass and used his real name

I repeat that, in my opinion, on his side, make 19 btc paying 15 with no risk, it was a good deal.
And on our side, making 10% with risk, was still a good deal, as, as far as I know, there isn't a SINGLE hosted mining that's profitable for shareholders. I searched, there aren't. All hosting mining offers won't give any return on investment, from cex.io to pbmining

The problem is that this f*cker now made 25 btc paying 15.
I hope that he really dies in a car accident.

Sorry but you seem to struggle with basic math and logic. No wonder why you got took.

ok, since you're such an expert, point me to a profitable mining hosting
thanks

*sigh* so it's scam  >:(
i've got PM from OP and wanna buy some shares

lucky for me, i saw lowerjerzey's post warning people don't buy this shares (thanks for warning)
and i decided to postpone my transaction with OP
free electricity is too good to be true   :-[

Jeez, here we go again. A guarantee profit doesn't exist, but making a profit potentially exist.  You're trying to hunt down a guarantee.  Keep looking, you'll never find it. You thought you found it here and look how that turned out. Also, I haven't once claimed that any hosted mining was profitable. Not sure what made you come to that conclusion.  I've only stated that in this group buy, the host is shafting himself while the shareholders make out so why host.  <<---see this statement to find out why hosts charge the fees that they do charge. You keep looking for the freebie. Again, keep looking. And if you do find another one, try to use your brain and try to remember what happened to you here.

I'm still hoping he doesn't leave this way.

I'm sure he was using real name on skype, connecting without the use of TOR or something like that.

At the moment, all decisions was of him. Can we be passive spectators? I don't think this may be right.

After more than a week, this is highly unlikely.
I think he had honest intentions in the beginning (hence using real names and such), but then he realized that he could run away and nobody will get to him (thanks again to lowerjerzey to persuade him to disappear, thanks a lot)

He had honest intentions? He used his real name? You have proof?


You are quite welcome! I'm more than happy to foil a scam. I also have no problem being your personal scapegoat. If placing the blame on me instead of your own stupidity makes you feel better, I'm fine with that.

I prevented this guy from stealing a lot of BTC. I too almost fell for it. If he played his cards correctly and made his operation look more legit, I probably would have risked buying a few shares and I'm sure many more would have too. Once I realized that he is a dumbass and making the deal too good to be true with practically no fee and the guise of free electricity, the BS meter went off the charts.

I have no doubt that if I, or anybody else, did not call this guy out, he would have sold all his shares, then skipped town.

u so naive,
you owe lowerjerzey. at least you should tell him - sorry my mistake...

OWE WHAT????
This idiot wrote "bye" just a few hours before the payout!!!!
You think you're an hero, you just destroyed people money!

you owe "sorry" to him, it was YOUR mistake not his


false


how did i ?

not you, i was talking about lowerjerzey

I'm more of an anti-hero. Heroes don't call victims stupid and douches.

you think this became a scam BECAUSE lowerjersey decided to quote the OP's massive bolded rant about one more straw before he ditches?

If the OP used his real info and was actually TRYING to be legitimate, why has he not returned to apologize (or give a second chance) or refund the scammed money? Why has noone figured out his real info (who uses bitcoin but has no facebook account?)?

Simple fact: it was a scam from the start. He was going to sell as many shares as he could and pay out dividends as long as it took to reach a maximum number of invested BTC to cover the costs of his private farm, then ditch.   He was called out repeatedly as a scammer using unfeasible promises to the point that no one else wanted to invest (ie: he hit the maximum number of investments) and disappeared as was predicted.

I've not!

Because was not so difficult. At least that was what appeared...

Hi all,
I mean, he give me his mobile phone number: +32485191224
and here is also known his ip address on March 23: 81.242.86.128

Really easy to geo locate!

when you gave?
this phone it works?

He gave me by pm, on request as a requirement to join his GB

did you try to call?

So he definitely was in Belgium then from that IP Address

Belgacom Skynet was the ISP

It might be worth an email to them to see if they had a customer under that name?
Anyone speak Dutch?

no provider will ever divulge the details of customers to normal people over a phone call
They are hesitant to do it even with a police warrant

He was also giving me his address to deliver my Ants
but then...

Not at that time

I called that number, it's real!
The problem is... he doesn't speak!
I can hear cars honking on the background, but, nobody is answering...

edit: now he turned off the phone...

Wow I'm actually surprised he picked up

What did you say to him when you were talking?
Maybe wait another day and call from another number
Pretend to be someone else to see if you can get him talking?

He didn't say anything
here is the recording of my call: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKIlAN5ywG8

He didn't say anything, it looked like he knew that I was calling.
This opens two scenarios:

A: One of the people in this topic is his sockpuppet and he's having fun of us
B: Someone else already called him

Or simply he is reading this thread, notified about new posts, and warned about his phone

Thank you Forexperiments, for your request.
I still hope, he naturally consider what is better for him.

No, btcmin0r1 doesn't connect to bitcointalk from 8th april
He could read it from other sockpuppet account, though

Funny thing is I'm actually going to Europe for a holiday at the end of the year

If we find anything out between now and then maybe I'll pay him a visit

He is on Skype right now his current IP address is 168.62.23.92 which is a US address so he most likely using Tor or a VPN  because it shows hundreds of Skype users have gone through that address.   The only user who has been through 81.242.86.128 is yannik.bindo so that is most likely an IP address from his internet provider.  I tried looking before, but he was not online at the time.  He must be watching the boards since has resorted to utilizing a proxy to connect to the internet.

How was it that you knew he was online on Skype?

Just something I learned when I was scammed and pissed off although it didn't help me out.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396361.0 surley the seller must have some details on him!

And the first reply also from Netherland, someone pms already them?
Thank you audiocarwall

That guy hasn't been on in months :(

Plus he deleted all his posts so it's hard to tell what he actually said

We have skype chats and our quotes

What is rilevant is that he received our BTCs, he has to say for what!

No I was talking about the thread where he would of given his information to purchase those units.

The guy that would have the information hasn't been online for months now

I sent him a PM just in case he ever comes back

*Edit*
No my bad

It was just a final payout from Eligius
Probably just been waiting in the queue for a month

Also found this, you can add his friends  ;D
http://profileengine.com/people/73860042/tana.bias#/people/100121524/yannik.bindo

If i dont get my coins back, just want to shame him!

You are going to harass the friends of someone who *might have* scammed you?  I think what will happen:
"your friend conned me out of money"
"yeah, how?"
"bitcoin"
"lollllz"  *blocked*

Don't do the harass friends thing..

But I was thinking he uploaded some photo's on here he would have taken with his phone (possibly)
If we can track down those pictures on the internet (man I wish i remember where he uploaded them to) they may contain the geotag data of where he took them

If he took them with a device with location data on it will tell us pretty much exactly where his house was..

Now to get the archives on this post somehow and get the links to the pictures..

Got them!

The thread has been archived here... with all the pictures and videos intact

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/open-2-65th-s-hosting-shares-for-sale-using-15-antminers-starting-31-03.284835/

Now to try and extract the data

Ugh...
pictures shot with an iPhone 3GS and rotated in Windows 7, no gps info

How a guy with an iphone 3gs and that have such profile pictures (= poor man that wanna show off his wealth but can't afford it), can own 15 antminers is beyond my comprehension
Probably he bought the antminers on a loan and the work in electric company is bullshit

Can we get any data from his Video?
Probably unedited straight from his Iphone

Another interesting development

He bought units in a group buy on the forums from an active member
Might be able to shed some light on his location

Look here

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/antminer-u1-usb-sticks-world-wide-gb-closed-cryptoware-co-uk.240012/page-10#post-4663630

It would seem it's lost in the system :(

The PM with his address has been deleted and there would also be concerns about personal information

Don't know the T&C's of the forum but if a moderator could restore btcminor01's PM's the information would be right there for the taking!

http://www.aimini.net/look/?pid=qfeWSyqUJwsAnBnlzJ17

Also go's by the handle "luccehh"

I'm getting closer by the day, really hope he is watching this, return all our coins and I'll stop.

Also spoke to a lady in the Netherlands from the group he was playing games with, she put the phone down when I mentioned his name.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&q=%22dm-gaming.com%22%20advertising&ei=-HthU82aJojIOcSvgcAO&url=http://users.telenet.be/trigzor/esports/dm%2520sponsoring%2520mail.doc&cd=1&ved=0CCcQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNEDSQGARqrxG5UuPWF8R1IlF29uZA

To be honest I don't even care about the coins

If in the unlikely event that the coins get returned I will donate them all to charity :)

Would be happy just to see a scammer brought to justice

Also his deactivated facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/people/Yannik-Bindo/826823808

And town of residence or previous residence:
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198015135893

DOB: 24:10:1988

It's quite likely that's the guy
I went through all his posts on the cloned forum and I don't think he intended initially to do any scamming otherwise he wouldn't have divulged so much information

Just took advantage of the situation when it arose...

I can in all honesty say that it was not me..
I was investigating it through the mirrored bitcointalk forums.. I have no idea who runs them but you think it might have had something to do with that?

No one else here knew about the purchases he made from you other than me before I went searching because all his posts were deleted

VERY VERY.... strange and suspicious

It wasn't me, but i applaud the person for trying!

HMM, did you see bitwhizz first post before it disappeared? This isnt adding up, this latest post looks more bogus.

No? What did it say?

Didn't think to take a screen shot.

Something along the lines of...

I don't have the message with his address as I declutter my inbox. Plus as a reseller I wouldn't be able to provide the info. Your best asking a mod if they can find the messages.

Not bogus,
it might be completely unrelated to this to be honest,
it was just a coincidence on the timing as to when crashoverirde  contacted me,
they guessed my secret question right, i was then sent an email saying

Hi,

your question was unsecure.Please consider this as a wake-up call.

To unlock your account please send 0.05 Bitcoins to 1DcFX8h2jDcLnaSyz7RzuqPj86URJjwR1z. I will send you the password then.
Take this as a allowance or "ticket" for your inattention.

You can also send a message to the administrator of Bitcointalk. But the administrator is very slow and it can take weeks until your account is
unlocked.
However, I promise you that your account is safe but only "locked". I will not log-in again.

Sincerly,
Wh1tehat


I ended up contacting theymos, and have had my account restored,
TBH whatever
i am just waiting for the moderator gmaxwell to remove the warning on my trust settings,  as I told him my a account was compromised

edit- gmaxwell has removed the negative trust, account fully restored, lesson learnt - don't have an obvious answer to the secret question

did you delete your post in this topic saying that you don't have his address anymore, or the hacker did it?

i deleted it, it could be completely unrelated, it was just a coincidence
i hope you guys get to the bottom of this
sorry i can't be of help,
 quite frankly i have nothing to do with this, or any info to give
Regards Bitwhizz

Looks like this guy is now scamming people on Ebay

A concerned user was googling his name and found our thread

We have some more information and I think we should create a bounty to track this person down and bring him to justice

Here is the new information that we have

This is his Ebay profile
http://www.ebay.nl/usr/2013papatango

This is his address

Milembo Bindo
Kroonstraat 1
1750, Sint-Qwintens-Lennik
BE
phone +3222303654

I've been told as well someone actually bought and picked up a Macintosh from him
He is an African male about 40 years old

Which matches the pics that we posted in the thread earlier

And don't forget the other phone number, +32485191224

I'm up for the bounty. But what would be our aim?

Hello all,

I had exactly the same problem as you all. He flew me 1500 euros. However, I have his account number and account number which said address of said client. I still gave him 15 days to send me the item or refund me but otherwise I will complain to the Belgian police case.


En français :

j'ai eu exactement le même problème que vous tous.  Il m'a volé de 1500 euros.  Cependant, j'ai son numéro de compte et qui dit numéro de compte dit adresse du client.  Je lui ai encore donné 15 jours pour m'envoyer l'article ou pour me rembourser mais dans le cas contraire je porterai plainte à la police belge.

Bien à vous.

Hi

This guy is an big scammer.
I bought serverall antminers, paid him, but never received the miners.
Im in contact with more persons who are scammed.
Totally he scammed persons for more than 20.000 euros.
You must go immediatly to youre local police.
Also send the local police in Lennink an email with youre compliant.
You have to contact mister Dirk Mertens -> wijkpost.lennik@politiepajottenland.be
Also you must send your local police report to mister Mertens.

Greets,

Can everybody list, every single bit of info they have on this guy. Ive got a few days spare and want to know what I can find.

Any info, email address, Usernames on other sites, address, telephone numbers. You name it I want it.

Il post all finds here.

I dont think you can find him.
Even the Police can't find him.
The only lead the is the adres in Lennik.
That adres is Kroonstraat 1.
Somebody of the other scammed people was there and make picture of de door.
His name "Bindo" really stand on the door.

Look at this:

http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4756/tI0xd7.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/3687/jqrVHt.jpg

Greets

Guys,

I dont know if this topic is still  active.  But I know this guy from way back, he scammed some people in his own home town then moved to brussels.

If you wanne take revenge I can help you guys out..

Grtz

Hello streetthug,

Yes, please.
Can you send me the information?
I will send you also and pb.

Best regards,