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cryptocurrency has become a lucrative business for many. A business involves buying and selling of services or a product for profits.In this crypto business, Gone are those days when investors are in for the long term. it is interesting to note that while the big guys cares about profits and not lost. everyone is into this crypto to make money.
therefore. i believe that it bounty hunters that worked hard to earn their rewards are the real holders and believers in a projects because they took their time to study the project. do the research to ascertain whether it is a good project to hold on or Not.
Believe this or Not, An investor has little or no time to study what a crypto project has to offer. they rather trust whatever their portfolio manager told them to do. they care more on when the profits are made and to move on.

Most projects that were dumped on the market were investors that dumped early on hunters who has no choice than to market aggressively to re-ignite a gradually falling project.  Most projects that experinced this sudden dump by investors includes. Serve, Foxtrading, Agrocoin and many more.

The crypto project owners should trust more on their bounty hunters than the investors when it comes to listing on exchanges and trading not in investors because the investors care much about their funds and not the development of these projects.

Lol the answer is clear, we all know that bounty hunters only want to dump and make quit bucks and investors want to make profits too but they can hold longer than bounty hunters, to say the truth they both want the same thing,

I really have no idea why you think bounty hunters are valuer than an investor. Not just in crypto currencies, Almost every platform investor is the key person, specially on investing platform like crypto currency. You can't blame on investor for coin dump, nor bounty hunters. If there is any fault then it's only because of project team management.

I can see now days many projects are offering investors with 50%,40% bonus. Which is really bad idea in my thought. I know they have to sell their token/coin but this is totally stupidity. Cause end of the day investor got too much coin and that can dump a project properly. Investor want profit, they are not responsible for that project is dying or not. And same case for bounty hunters, they don't think about project (most of them). They just sold their coin after distribution for couple of bucks which is not crime though after spending so much effort on their project.

So crypto project owners should trust them self not on bounty hunters or investors. If they can provide good quality service in crypto industry then no bounty hunters or investors dump their project.

yes, they do both want the same thing at the end. to make money out of it. the difference is that these investors put their money on this project hoping to get profit. whereas, bounty hunters spent their effort and time, to promote this project to get paid in return. investors value more if they invested, because if they do not believe the capability of the project, why would they risk their money in the first place? but if the project owners value their project, they won't let their market collapse and not get back their feet. if they have strong foundation, they can easily overcome these dumpers, they can rise again if they have valuable product or service to offer.

As you would have it or expect it to be logically, Investors values cryptocurrencies more than bounty hunters, most bounty barely a knowledge about how crypto really works, they are just into it for the an extra source of income, and they often sell whatever they raise from any bounty without thinking about it values, although, there are also some investors who are just heard about crypto from some friend or online then choose to adopt cryptocurrencies as investment opportunity.

Yes the prize hunter is the most dominant person to work hard on a project, looking at it with promotions that have been done by prize hunters to attract interest for coins or ongoing projects. Investors also participated in the project, I think the two must complement each other.

What is clear? Not clear at all. lol.
I'm curious why you seem to blame the bounty hunter so much. Are you an investor? Never did a bounty hunting job?
Not all bounty hunters want to sell their token rewards very soon. They also want to see the token values increasing and pumped. It makes sense, they only get a small number of tokens. Imagine if the price of the token is almost zero ($0,0000xxxx), how can the bounty hunters trade their token? Even the price of ETH gas higher than the token value. So, who dump the price? Is it clear bounty hunters?  :-\

Are you sure? Why not try to look back on whats the percentage of bounty tokens allocation compared to investors itself? The main dumpers are the investors itself and im not really surprised that bounty hunters do always took the blame.

So far ICO now is almost dead and i dont know if there are still who do trust up these things yet we know on how this market comes a mess for after all of these years.

We dont need anymore projects that are just similar to each other using up the same platform.Most of them are trash or useless.

A point to make here is that investors care much more about their funds more than the quality of the project. it hurts to see our hard earn money disappear. investors care so much about market movements and how their investment has faired. if the market looks good, he sell off his tokens and move on, leaving the falling project in the hands of the owners and long term believers.

in my opinion if you have to choose one, the most important competitor is the investor. because the project can run if there is funds coming in, even though the promotion of the project is not significant. whereas if the project marketing is good but there are no investors putting in funds there, the project will not develop. after all, if there are already funds from investors, any form of promotion can still be possible.

well its thier payment so they can do what ever they want for the payment they recieve ,they can hold it or not its thier choice.

Same thing with investors ,they can sold the time they think the project is not worth it with thier money and move to another project that they think have potential that will bring them  income and profit they need.

To simply answer this question, I will say that investors value cryptocurrency more than bounty hunters, bounty hunters only doing it to earn leaving while investors are up for gains.

you are wrong mate that bounty hunter not want to dump.Both investors and bounty hunters values crypto.Yes some of the bounty hunters got panic and they dump and not all the time. Investors invest their money in project thats why they more take care but other hands bounty hunter gives effort.so I think both bounty hunters and investors values crypto more.

To be candid enough I think the investors values the cryptocurrency more. For instance every investor wants to make profits from the money invested into a project. Hence they are not quick to dumping the project for shitty prices. But that is not to say that investors dont dump projects. They do as well. On the other hand, I think bounty hunters are not really concerned with profits as they didn't invest their money. All they want is to see cool amount of money then move on. Well that is not to say that there are no hunters who value cryptocurrency. There are of course. Let me conclude that both investors and bounty hunters value cryptocurrency alike.

There are two kinds of bounty hunters that I have known through the years of my experiences as a member of this community and those two have some different perspectives of the rewards they get from the bounties. I called them:

1. Believer
2. Disbeliever

1. Believer: Linguistically speaking, these guys believes about the project they are promoting and they keep holding their reward tokens until now. some of them have been holding some certain tokens for years now.

2. Disbeliever: Those who do not have some courage to hold their rewards for long enough and mostly panic to sold their rewards as soon as they get their hand on it. The Bottom line is, If these bounty hunters have some other incomes in the outside world, they might have some courage to hold their tokens but most of them have not. only relies on the bounty rewards they get from the campaigns.

I think most investors are only after with the profit because that was my motivation, while bounty hunters are after for some money. I think investors give more value to any project compare to the hunters" Like me before I was joining any bounty campaigns I joined in this forum to gain knowledge as an investor, and it works I was able to invest in the number of projects that gives me good returns, but it was changed when the cryptocurrency industry is plagued by scams and frauds. and it changed my perspective while investing in ICO and IEO when I became a victim of an exit scam three times already but still it won't stop me to participate in promising IEO's for more decent profits.  

You are correct Investors do give more value to a project than bounty hunters. Bounty hunters are there for promotions for which they are paid money. Investors want the start-up to succeed so that they can earn profit.

In the end both are there to earn money from the start-up.

These is what you called "Realtalk" and I've been a bounty hunter for quite some time too and this is what I want to. To dump the reward tokens that I got if they paid me.

Investors and developers themselves are doing the same thing too. I still remember the time when I got ~600,000 tokens and I want to dump it immediately. The price of it at the exchange is $0.3 but when we saw it and we are able to trade it, it plummeted in an instant. This is just one proof that before the bounty hunters even sold their tokens, investors and developers and even the exchange owners are the first one to dump the token for instant profit.

Bounty hunters basically don't dump the price as they get only 1% or less most of the time where investors and team holds 99% most of the cases. Investors receive bonuses in the time of token sale and they sell that bonuses at whatever the price they get. This is the main causes of price fall and team's performance is another cause of price fall.

we know that bounty hunters and investors want to get a lot of profit, sometimes when we get a good project, not bounty hunters who make dump prices, but investors too. investors can sell tokens / coins that they buy from bounty hunters at low prices and sell them when prices jump up. because bounty hunters also want to enjoy the coins / tokens they get in doing the bounty program.

OP I think you can justify this just because of hunters not being prioritize. First of all, owners will not even think of the hunters sake as long as their coin or token value wont be affected. Ive seen many situations where the rewards for the hunters has been hold off. This is unfair but what can we do? Complain right. The problem with complaining is that the subject will never get prioritize and even noted. For some topics covered how many retaliation has been made? None right.

Also your not the only hunter. Some of them are just eagerly dump the tokens and to be honest that's a fact we cant deny. Of course monetizing the token is the least we cant do when we received it.

More investors means more demand for a coin or token which is why I think investors have a huge part to play here, as for bounty hunters they hardly keep coins, ninety nine percent of bounty hunters likes dumping

Bounty hunters put a lot of effort and time in popularizing these ICOs and in most of the cases, they get very low rewards or no rewards at all. And even after all this, users like you would love to blame them using the "dumping" excuse. Let me ask you one thing. In most of the ICOs, the bounty pool is anywhere between 0.5% to 2% of the total pool. Is it possible to crash the price of a token by dumping just 0.5% of the circulating supply? It is the promoters who do the dumping in the majority of the instances, but the blame always fall on the bounty hunters.

If we would look on the broader persepective, investors would appear to be the one who value cryptos, more, in a sense that they have invested money into cryptos are are devoted to hold despite of market downfall compared to majority of bounty hunters who are selling upon receiving their tokens from bounty, more of a quick profit. But the bottomline is that, both investors and bounty hunters are giving importance to cryptos, it is just that, they have different mindsets.

Ofcourse investors would go for long term investment and holding while bounty hunters are more on short term because they tend to move from one bounty to another which is not a wrong thing to do since that is the fruit from their efforts doing bounties.

Investors are the only reason why every single coins in crypto space survives, without investors every single coins and tokens will be utterly worthless so there is your answer, investors value coins the most

Projects team or we shouldn’t interfere if who guys will sell or hold their reward for the profit because he/she wasted a lot of time in that projects progress. Mostly bounty hunters didn’t hold for long term because they scared when it’s will go big dump. But it’s their personal decision i think. Investors definitely looking forward to much profit from these project.                    

Of course investors will be more interested in cryptocurrency than bounty hunters, bounty hunters are only interested in whether they receive the token after the bounty ends and they will quickly sell it if the token is listed at the exchange

You can't compare investors to bounty hunters, the difference is marginal, bounty hunters only get paid for their work, they don't invest any penny, they aren't helping the project, the life of a coin belongs to the investors

That makes me laugh that you are even blaming yourself and as far as i know what you have already promoted in your signature is also a suspicious coins which still watched by some members here consider the creator was also claiming the ico has already ended in the past. It's not hunters or investors but the team is a party that must be blamed. lol

This is the truth that developers should accept, investors just want to make profit and there is always dumps that is going to happen when investors wants to dump the coin after they realized profit or they see that they cannot make break even, it's the job of the developer to proceed with the platform and the project, other investors will see this and buy back the coin.

There shouldn't be any competition between bounty hunters and investors, investors invest money and bounty hunters get paid, obviously bounty hunters cares only about getting paid

 And to be honest everyone is invested in the project because of money; investors want to make quick buck on their investments and bounty hunters want good pay day. So you can't put the blame entirely on the bounty hunter and moreover bounty hunters are not the major whales as most of them just get very few tokens and so even they dump they can't effect the price that much but when a whale dumps then it's a different story

Investors are the primary ones who believes on the project,if there are no investor then no reward for bounty hunters.

Bounty hunter can be an investor as well but bounty hunting means they are working for money so project team don't have to force them to hold tokens to avoid getting dumped.

Investors values crypto more than bounty hunters, many hunters aren't really interested in the project tokens, they want dollars or Bitcoin instead so they care less what happened to the project after

The sad reality is only few projects are worth holding or believing majority of the projects born during the boom of ICO’s are slowly dying or some of them didn’t leave a single update. Bounty hunters are also investors but only few realises the real potential value of their rewards.

I think both of them value cryptocurrencies and their investments in new projects because investors invest their money while bounty hunters invest their time and effort in the promotion of the project and also make up supportive community of the project and most of the bounty hunters also invest in the project they truly believe in. So i think it is very important for both of them as if the project grows their investment or reward will grow as well.

Bounty hunters contribute to the live of projects too, they create awareness and investors keeps a project alive and also plan on making profit out of the project, the praise goes to investors

Some components mentioned by OP affect each other and cannot be separated from each other. Developers who have limited funds really need the help of investors to fund the project. Investor trust must be obtained with good development planning and progress from the dev. Whereas to increase customer reach requires a large community, this is a function of the bounty hunter to play a role in promoting the project.
Related to the development of product prices from coins or project tokens is entirely dependent on market interest. If the project is truly quality and useful, there will definitely be more investors and traders interested in buying. While early investors and bounty hunters will take the opportunity when prices are good.

That is your assumption You cannot generalize. There are bounty hunters that do not care to sell their rewards for peanuts and at the same time, there are investors that will still dump their tokens at the sight of little profit, in order to move on to another project. Which means you cannot conclude on who values and who does not, using these two parameters.
Also, if an investor foresees a serious loss coming, he might quickly sell what he has at the current price, which might cause more dump.

Both has a certain part that they play when it comes to price situation but these two category consist of people and with this, each person has his / her own reason for joining a particular project. All these plays well, when the team behind a project shows solid concern when it comes to the price condition. When the team shows this of enthusiasm, only few people would want to let go their token either through investment or joining bounty program.

Well, it is an endless cycle that requires both of them isn't it? You need bounty hunters to go out there and promote your project and find investors and you need investors to promote your project and get it to more people using their money.

Without promoters, you can't get your project heard by anyone and even if you have the best possible project at hand and you are doing something that will be better than bitcoin (unlikely) if nobody hears about it you won't crack top 50. If you do not get investors, if you have a great project but no funding to promote it or hire required developers, designers and so forth you won't be able to build that project into release or anything further. So, you need money and promoting, requires both of the teams you mentioned.

So in that project everything is really needed and must be prepared not only to do it alone or without a promoter and also a professional developer so all of it must be prepared early with a good concept of course the project will be good going forward because they do seriously.

Great projects will certainly be supported by many communities so that the project is more confident because a lot of support and the existence of the community is very important to promote the project.

You raised a very important topic and I have something to say. It so happened that the participants of the bounty really know more about crypto projects than investors, since they promote this project by creating information about it. However, I would not argue that it is the banuti participants who are the best cryptocurrency users. Like invaders, banuti participants also pursue one goal - to capitalize on this. However, I myself will be a member of the bounty and I am very saddened by the attitude of administrators and the crypto community towards people like me. We are often deceived and blamed. With such success, one can deceive and blame, for example, advisors, investment funds, which also participate in the promotion of crypto projects. But it so happened that the participants in the bounty are blamed for everything. This is not fair and wrong. Indeed, it’s time to begin to appreciate the participants in the bounty and do everything so that they go and promote your project.

No need to judge everyone by the "one line". A hunter can also be an investor. This was especially true before when the subscription companies were big and fat. One could become an early investor and get tokens for a subscription company and lower the price in such ways.
And the author of the start-up post is certainly very mistaken.

Investor and bounty hunters are just the same  now, On investor after the price hit x2 or x3 they sell right away and leave the project, that is what happening in almost all IEO. On bounty hunter after the token gets listed they sell no matter what the price, everyone is after for short term profit.

Absolutely right mate what you observed, Investors is huge significant part in the projects because without investors existence almost impossible to implement of new projects. If they will contribute money to raise these projects then bounty hunters can expect their reward from which projects. All of things depends in the developers then investors.          

banuti? You mean bounty right?. Oke, we must handle this matter wisely. Bounty hunters are often blamed if a dump occurs because they are considered to get tokens or coins with gratuities, in fact, it is not completely free because they do work to be eligible to get rewards. Investors also have the opportunity to dump because they get a big discount at the beginning of the sale. So all the factors mentioned by the OP are interconnected and all are important. A truly high-quality project will certainly not be easy to dump just because the bounty hunter sells its rewards, this must be followed by the right strategy. It is the market situation that influences this strongly when the market is saturated, the price is difficult to develop, everyone only focuses on making a profit even though it is small rather than loss, so all of them focus on selling what they have, whether investors or bounty hunters are all in the same situation. So let's respect each other and stop blaming each other.

Not all of them man, there are few out there who really listens to what the project says and believe in them even if it makes them wait for how many years to succeed. i a bunch of them, their bounty hunters and do not like the concept of dumping their hard earned tokens, they keep it for good even if it loses it's value.

Bounty hunters and investors have the same goal which is to make profits at the end of the campaign but bounty hunters develop more value and interest to the project especially if the project has high potentials to succeed. Dumping tokens only happens after holding for so long but still not listed in the exchange.

In some paths hunters is a good investor because they exchange their others coin to hold their favorite one coin. See hunters dump their dislike coin to hold their favorite coin. Without dump market situation, hunters or investor never wants to dump favorite coin. Investors dump because of only fear to lose all money, hunters we all switch coin to secure one.

indeed, not all new cryptocurrency will be like that, but for this year there have been many cases that made the name cryptocurrency worse as a scam and there was no development from the developer so that the bounty campaign participants could not exchange the campaign results that had been obtained and could not be made into fiat because it was not there is a selling point.

Both of them are almost equally important to a project. Bounty hunters help spread the word so investors are able to find projects needing funds, and investors obviously help raise money so further development can occur for a cryptocurrency. Bounty hunters are in it just to make money just like anyone else here, and I know plenty of people that participate in bounty campaigns just to dump their tokens on launch to secure a quick buck. Many people also independently invest in cryptocurrencies and make their own judgements on what to buy and sell. Everyone's got different techniques to profit in these markets, and it's too much of a generalization to say all investors dump at launch.

that adds an extra bad feeling to the bounty hunters  , they are now more on the fomo side or they will more prone to panic selling because they are hungry for the profit with all of those scam and unpaid projects that they experience  .

 investors are i think more the one that value cryptos because they are investing on it and they keep thier coins for a long time   .  bounty hunters are still helpful to the investors to earn more if ever the project is exposed properly  . that simple means roles both are still important

Obviously the investors. They are laying their money on the line just to buy these cryptocurrencies and surely it will be a great deal foe them to treasure it. Of course hitting ROI is also part of the plan but compared to hunter which only doing campaign for earning ia purely valueing income. How many hunters will hold for a while to believe on certain projects. Lets be honest here but thats the truth. Cant deny it.

You only talk about your opinions and your perspective. In this case it depends on their personality, because I'm sure everyone wants "profits". You need proof of logic to strengthen your opinion, I'm sure many will say that investors are more valuable.

My personal opinion if I see the current situation, then investors are more valuable, because they are making the market of the project running. while the position of the bounty is here to do marketing of the project.

Investors of course. The bounty hunters goal is to earn the token and sell it immediately to assure that they will get a profit from it and for the investors they would Hold the tokens they have bought and wait for its price to increase in order to earn a decent profit.

Bounty hunters doesn't care about which coin they will get as long as it can be sell in any amount they will do it.

Both investors and bounty hunters are very useful in the life of any project, bounty hunters get paid for creating awareness, spreading the news about the quality of the project which attracts investors to the project, the survival of a project starts from promotion

Then you are simply saying bounty hunters are been given free money for nothing sake, as if bounty hunters are working for free right? Bounty hunters are the reason that new projects have more investors, we spread the words through social media to attract investors, stop ridiculing bounty hunters job, it's more than that

investors that have much money will  contribute to cryptocurrency and new projects, but we should not forget about bounty hunter services. they work and promote new projects in order investors know and understand so they will put their money. both of them have their own role so we could not forget each other.

I would like to disagree. Investors are the one who want to get profit from the project. They dont care if the project will be successful, useless or scam. All they care is profit.

Even a wikipedia definition says it An investor is a person that allocates capital with the expectation of a future financial return or to gain an advantage. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investor)

They project by itself can give reward for hunters, even if they raised 0. Because they token or coin is just a "candy wrapper", with 0 (or if something is invested, then with some value) value.

I think it depends on the person, not all bounty hunters sell it directly when listing on the exchange and that is their right because they also help promote the project. And if investors want to get quick profits so they might also be able to invest in other projects that are running. So, don't blame both of them.

There's no one to be blame as both have the same purpose. They invest money and time to see a good outcome, make it profitable and earned decent from doing their part, we can't say how they really concern about the project and how well they will deal with the project developers. But weighting the
the situations, it's more with investors side who value crypto as they are the one who are risking their own money to see the development and progress
of certain projects.

In my opinion, prize hunters and investors alike value cryptocurrency. because they both need each other. the investor as the owner of the capital and the bounty hunter as the one who runs the promotion of a project so that the project is successful so that it can achieve the targets set by the project owner.

Not only investors i think both of contributed different values to get successful project. Promotion is important part in the every project how you can imagine a project without hunters. Bounty hunters of course care every single project because they will work hard to spread or advertisements. Mostly intentions are immediate sell i know that is correct.                

Yes, that's right, Investors and bounty hunters really need each other, because they both use very valuable capital, investors use money when investing in projects, while bounty hunters use their time in making promotions so everyone can find out about the project, so both are clear need each other.

Of course, investors are the ones who care about the project and some hunters too, we can say that most dumps are being made by bounty hunters but we can also assume that some big investors too to get cheaper tokens and manipulate the coin or token, that really depends if the project is worth the hold then even though you are a bounty hunter you will be holding it.

Exactly, therefore investors should not blame the bounty hunters every time they dump their reward as they know in the first place that bounty hunters main goal is just to sell their reward to enjoy it right away after the bounty campaign.

We cannot say that most dumps are done by bounty hunters, because bounty hunters only get tokens in small amounts, so they tend to sell them at the price requested by traders in the market, and if we examine in assumptions, investors can make a dump large prices, because they always get a bonus when investing in a project, and the price of tokens purchased by investors is also cheaper.

you have a point on there . i agree on what you have said but this is about the longetivity or if how long they hold  .

 before investor dumps the market , bounty hunters already did it   . also if we combine the number of token allocation and all the hunters , and think if they all sell together , their damage delt on the price is also deadly   .  there are those project that give alot of tokens  i see one time  ,  imagine if all projects are like that  . the coin can dump hard easily if the coin goes on the wrong hands

I am with you moat bounty hunters want to sell it off right after they get the token in a certain project so avoid its dumped price and their labor won't go to waste. And most of project developers dread bounty hunters so they sometimes lock or delays the distribution to prevent the token price to decrease.

bounty hunters are also very often one of the first investors, because if the project is really good, then those people who do marketing for it understand what kind of future the project may have. I often invest in projects in which I participate as a bounty hunter

many do invest, but bounty hunters, I think, have now started to become little investors in the projects that they follow. all because of the greater risk of losing money and time when following a campaign. There are no new projects that are 100% sure to succeed in the market. many processes must be carried out until the new project can survive and compete with old projects in the market.

This just proves that bounty hunters values cryptocurrency more than what investors can do since they work double time and exert more effort that investors that just dumps the price after the token of a certain project has already been listed since investors value more on their investments rather than the tokens since bounty hunters are those people who values the price of their token because it is their reward or payment for their work done. Although even both sides are working with crypto related works, we can see that bounty hunters are the ones who truly values the crypto tokens because they see greater opportunities on having tokens to hold and the values it have in the market. So for me, bounty hunters have the strong will to keep up working with crypto related works for they value cryptocurrencies more than the investors.

It's not always the bounty hunter that dump, the proof is that I still hold a number of potential coins for the long term. Take a look and see the bounty that runs right now, the average distribution is done in stages with the reason to stabilize prices, and I as a bounty hunter, IMO is annoying. Honestly, actually it all depends on the project, if the project is convincing and has the potential to move forward, I think prices will continue to stabilize and tend to rise. Prize hunters also learn from experience, even I also once regretted the dump of coins for only $230 and 5 months later prices rose 10x, that's a regret that I have never forgotten until now.

Both are very much needed in a project investor and bounty hunters rely heavily on the project to promote the project so that it can be successful in the future. Sometimes I also wonder why hunters are always blamed for dumping, even though the quality of the project is not good so can not keep the stability of the price of tokens on the market.

Who told you that investors don’t do their research before investing in a project? Do you think that’s it’s every investor that has someone that manages their portfolio? Some of them do that by themselves, especially the ones that are not yet big investors, they do their research before they start investing in a project. And what makes you think that a project is trusting more on a bounty hunter than an investor?

Bounty hunters are just the promoters and the target of this promotion is for the project to gain investors, and if it doesn’t gain investors then it’s probably useless and will be a failed project.

Bounty hunters and investors both value the cryptocurrency, you can't ignore anyone! Bounty hunters help a crypto project to reach to investors and investors help a startup project to be big and to make something big in the crypto industry, so both are an important part in the crypto world. Personally, I believe bounty hunters research more than investor to find a better project, and many hunters become investors, which is a positive sign!

I think it would depend on the situation. Bounty hunters indeed long for profit as soon as they get their token but doesn't really mean that they don't care about the other coins value, what if they are currently investing on a certain crypto at the moment. For the investors, obviously they would focus on monitoring the market value of the coin they are currently investing with. Some wait for a while before investing, they are the ones whow are strategic wherein they wait for the fall to buy or wait for the rise to sell and gain lots of profits from it.

Bounty Hunter is a type of advertising that disseminates information about the project. however, bounty hunters report that there are projects like the ones they support that are being developed. it might make investors arrive. in addition, the bounty hunter is also a supporter and user. however, sometimes developers need investors, but bounty hunters also need to be there as users. however investors and bounty hunters have their advantages, so I support both of them giving value to the cryptocurrency.

You are right, investors and bounty hunters have an important role as users who strengthen the community and market of a project. it all depends on how the developer manages the community to support market growth. but sometimes the bounty hunter is also blamed for the price drop when the token is listed on the exchange. whereas bounty hunters only hold a small part of the number of tokens available.

Though bounty hunters are a major part for any project but OP showed overconfidence on it! Most of the investor do research before investing because it's the first thing to do in crypto. In 2017, when every coin got a huge pump, that time people did not research enough before buying ICO coins, because that time shit coins were profitable too. But after 2018, I think investors do research hard before investing, even they research harder than the bounty guys!

Of Course investors,because they invest their money in a project to make a profit and they will not sell their crypto in loss(99%).On the other hand bounty hunters dump the price maximum time(not all bounty hunters).But I think both of them values crypto but investors values crypto more than bounty hunters.           

Bounty campaigners value cryptocurrency more.
Since for them it is earnings, and for investors - a way to increase money.

bounty participants or investors both appreciate Crypto, meaning when investors invest in ico or ieo, investors see the potential of the project going forward if the developer always provides great news investors will not throw away their tokens. Likewise with bounty participants if the tokens obtained from the bounty bounty do not sell immediately. All return to development if the developer does not run the project as implemented in the roadmap, the investor and bounty participants will dispose of their project tokens.

I feel bad sometimes to those investors rooting for a project but due to some bounty hunters just deciding to sell and dump all the tokens gave, the opportunity they took were almost useless. Can't put into statistics on how many bounty hunters do we have right now out of all users in this forum, but it seems like we have a lot because pretty much the coins made in projects dries up most of the time after just almost reaching the exchange that their coins were listed at.

The success or failure of a crypto project is not the fault of the investor or the bounty hunter, the project owner must provide good services, so that, their project has a public appeal.
Investors and bounty hunters have the same goal but take different paths, both play different roles in the development of the crypto project. Investors have a very important role in the development of a project, without the role of investors, we can be sure a project will die. Whereas bounty hunters to get their pay, will continue to work on promoting a project so that it is better known to the public.

Obviously investors values cryto currencies. On the other hand bounty hunter also play a vital role to valued cryptocurrency. That means investors invest their money in crypto. And bounty hunter promote the projects and try to reach projects to the investors. after bounty ended hunters are try to sell their earning and thus some projects can dump. But it is not too much IMO. Because very lower amount of crypto send to the hunter as rewards.

And bounty hunters can advertise a knowingly fraudulent project. I personally do not see much crime in this. Nobody forces "to believe in a word". A good investor can check and figure everything out. And in my memory, all scam projects get on the exchange and give at least + 100%. You can also count on this. In the case of ERC tokens, you can always speculate on DELTA.

 :D investors are the ones that values cryptocurrency more than the hunters. The hunters are just those who want to earn from participating in any launched bounties of their choice. As investors, pitting your money into any investment in cryptocurrency mean the whole world to you and you will not take your investment with laziness as we have seen in most hunters who don't understand how coins and tokens are to be value. Hunters are gamers in this industry while investors are the ones that values cryptocurrency.

It's just a mere confusion. How much token will a hunter earn compare to what Investors will hold. Most times it takes months for Hunter to receive token and many don't even pay in full. How will hunters dump what they don't receive ? Most times some project even dump the price and then send token to hunters just to say the dumped it. Everyone knows the game.

Investors can for sure but still just assumptions but if we will take a look even though bounty hunters got small percentage, MOSTLY not all will sell them whichever the price is, as per investors, just like what I said, yes, they may dump it and get more in a lower price. We cannot really tell who value the project most until the team delivers what they promise, that's my take on this.

It should be the investors because they spend money on the project while the hunters are just here for a free money but if the project don’t have a bounty campaign expect the hunters to not care about it. We invest because we support the project and we give value to that since we give our trust to make money in return.

I don't agree with you. In fact, the opposite is true. Investors are interested in ensuring that the project is successful and they will not needlessly sell coins. Bounty hunters have only one goal - to make money, so they will sell the coin at the first opportunity.

In my own thoughts, i think both parties gives value to cryptocurrencies. Bounty hunters wants their coins and tokens to have values as well as the investors wants to earn. There's no such thing that both parties wants to dump the coins.

There are two kinds of people who engage themselves in crypto. One is those who believe in this new technology and enjoying the convenience of less hassle transaction, and the other one with sole purpose of making profit (regardless of ways to earn) because of the volatility.

Bounty hunters and investors are the same, they are after money. Investors are buying coins/tokens and holding to earn while hunters are exerting effort to get paid. I dont agree that hunters are the only one who take time to have a research before participating in a project because investors are doing that too. They are using their hard-earned money to buy coins so its a must to be careful.

Most often, thorough research is conducted by investors. They are really interested in the project, follow the news and hold the coin. That's why I think they care more about their portfolio.

If you bought something with your money, you will hold it dearly and do a consistence follow up on it and seek ways to ensure its growth and survival. Investors will always value projects more than hunters because their money is involved and they want to make maximum opportunity off the project. Sometimes investors just lock up their funds and keep for some years if a good project. There are however some hunters who keep bags of their bounty payment for future growth too.

In my opinion, this is a rather strange reasoning. Both among investors and bounty hunters, there is a completely different attitude to cryptocurrency. You can not evaluate them as a single mass with the same actions in relation to it. Investors and bounty hunters contribute to the development of cryptocurrencies and their actions are also different, because it depends on the level of theoretical and practical knowledge about cryptocurrency and many other factors. It would be wrong to indicate that investors or bounty hunters negatively affect ICO projects, it depends more on the specific actions of each participant in this market.

This isn't something we should be talking about because the fact is the project use case matters the most, if it's not so good enough no one will invest right? If the project is not good enough bounty hunters ain't getting something good in return too or even never getting any reward, every outcome and success of a project depends on the team professionalism

sometimes the dump came from the owner of the project and sometimes its also from  advisor that wants to sell thier share imidiately after recieveing it.
By selling it will affect the market and they will blame that the bounty hunter's doing that which is sometimes not.

Honestly I just love the idea of Satoshi Nakamoto himself, no involvement of any others makes Bitcoin very trusty, NO ICO NO Premine coins will never have this kind of issues, Crypto space is now more like a money making haven that's why many new projects are failed promises

There are a lot of different situations, but of course it makes sense that the bounty hunters try to sell their tokens as quickly as possible, but investors also very often sell their tokens right away, but most investors try to get the highest possible profit.

Yes, and this is certainly very reasonable to happen, because basically everyone in crypto just wants to make a profit through each of the ways they take, and from those things there is always a demand and supply in the crypto market.

It is very obvious, investors value crypto more (especially the one they put their hard earned money on), no investor would want a dump on a crypto he/she invested on, but hunters on the other hand don't really gives a shit about what happen to the crypto they are given through their campaign, they are only interested to dump at any price and move on, the reason why most project don't pay hunters on time :-\
investing money on a crypto and getting it for free, there is certainly a big difference.

In short everyone has their own role for the success of the project, the main source of funds is coming from investors but bounty hunters also have a big role on why the crowdsale is successful, they may dump when they receive their reward but let's respect them as that's what they do to enjoy their earning. However to the question, it should be the investors who values cryptocurrency as they are the one risking their money.

Well, it's a funny question but the truth is both the investor and the bounty hunter wants to make profit,every investor would want profit from what he or she has invested,the bounty hunter works hard to promote a project and as such would want reward for job well done, and so,at the end would sell his or her token also for profit

Bounty hunters are being demonized here for the past few years for no fault of theirs. Whenever the price of a token goes down, the promoters are quick to accuse the bounty hunters of dumping their tokens. But they never responded when I asked them how it is possible to crash the prices, if 0.5% or 1% of the tokens are being dumped in the exchanges. Bounty hunters make up a group of convenient scapegoats.

Bounty hunters can't be blame for selling their coins for USD or other coins, they work for it and they have every right over their coins, it's all developers fault, if developers can make quality projects there will never be anything to worry about

Exactly, for developers who are offering a good bounty reward, they need to ensure to list the coin in an exchange with high volume so if bounty hunters will dump, it will not affect the price,.. some developers also divide the bounty into period, this would help not to dump the project right away.

We have dumpers among investors and we have holders among bounty Hunters, I guess both bounty hunters and investors value cryptocurrencies, we still have some bounty hunters like me who still hold on to bounty tokens, not all can do that this days

That's a good developer. They always prioritize their coins in the market compared to the profits they get, because there have been many projects such as the only goal to reach the target stated, while the volume itself is not in mind, but it is clear that the volume is very important if there is a dump of the The bounty to sell them is their right too.

I will always argue the opinion of hunters dump, we barely see over 1% token distribution to hunters recently, in some cases the reward are staggered to control dump by hunters but at the end the price will still dump massively. We have queried severally the excess bonuses given to investors, most exchange listing at ICO price has made enough money for investors to exit which team had continue to neglect. I also dont believe investors dont research, we all know the reduction of bounties for credible projects in the forum, so how do we rate investors commitment if they rarely share investment with hunters here

Yes, but we cannot also blame the developer completely, because a developer is also unable to stem the market when their tokens are circulating in the market, and if we examine them wrongly, each of us means that we have all made good mistakes on purpose or accidentally.

I think both require each other and the most role in a project is the bounty hunters because those who always promote the project to their investors are just waiting for the funds hoping the ICO value of the project is good So they can get big profits and for bounty hunters they can not necessarily enjoy the results of the project they follow for some reason.

Yes maybe investors are more valuers of cryptocurrencies than bounty hunters.Maybe because hunters only got it for free.Hunters invest their time and effort in promoting the projects while investors invest their own money.Overall the goal is to earn money and gain profit.But not all hunters are like that.

For me, Bounty hunters value the tokens more because to most of bounty hunters, they can conveniently hodl tokens  until it reaches their favorite predicted price.

But for investors, they invest in altcoins for profit only.
Most investors don't care if a product grows or not. They just want the profit.

And huge bonuses during ieo/ico gives all investors the leverage to be a dumper and still profit high

Investors rarely share their opinions here they are more aloof and know what they are doing while we as hunters can only discuss in this forum and telegram channels while the project does not mention how many investors are there so it is quite difficult to communicate with investors.

Sales with bonuses will certainly be a dump factor in the market because it will be a risk for tokens to give investors too big bonuses while hunter allocations are only 1-5% for all participants.

Bounty hunter look disappointed when bitcoin down and many altcoin have lower price, will give bad impact for new project will going down after listing because bitcoin and altcoin never growing on higher price.

Value is dependent on the individual. A bounty hunter can get into a project because he values the project whereas an investor can invest in such project because he sees huge gain or short term profit therein. Its an individual based decision.

But if they see that the project is moving fast and the dev always update it's investors and holders, there is no reason to dump the coin, investors will not invest here if if they don't see potential and bounty hunters will not promote the project if they see that the project will go down the drain, they want to hold on but they can't hodl for a long time.

As a start i think both of them want the same thing, that is, both values cryptocurrencies more and I can't say one values it more than the other. Investors spends their time and money to invest through this way bringing the project to life, thus they will surly value the token in question and once given the opportunity will sell for profit. On the other hand, bounty hunters, spends their time and effort to promote the project to a larger audience through this way attracting more investors, also once given the opportunity will sell for profit. Thus it can be seen that, without bounty hunters most investors might not know about the project in the same way without investors the project might not come to life.

When it comes to value, I think as much as the investors who contributed his money by investing in the project and also the hunter who takes his time leaving all other thing to promote the project both value the project because at the end they want the project to succeed so that they can sell and take profit because that is the major aim of both of them.

true, indeed investors should not blame the prize hunter, even though the prize hunter does not invest but the hard work of the prize hunter in campaigning for a project deserves to be appreciated.

Of course, every investor and Bounty Hunter has a different attitude to cryptocurrencies and to their activities.  But if we do not consider the negative impact of the actions of certain investors and participants of the Bounty companies on pricing after listing, In defense of the latter I would like to say that for example I use the companies in the bounty to a large extent to form the starting capital, so that it can be used not only in trading  but also for investment.  But if the Bounty company is really promising, then no doubt I will keep such coins for a sufficiently long period until the project is fully implemented.

In any case, we must understand the difference that bounty hunters make to investors. The former contribute their work, and the latter invest real money in the development of the project. Accordingly, investors risk their money if the project is not launched. And bounty hunters in this case will not receive payment for the work performed, which is not always performed efficiently.

The dumpers cannot be seen as those who value investment in cryptocurrency rather, they are the ones who don't like the progress of projects after the distribution of their tokens. Investors know the very important of investment, they always make sure that, their investment get maximum profit before they will approach their cryptocurrency exchange but Bounty hunters can't do such. Investors value their investment platforms and strictly obey runs of the games than the Bounty hunters. The first problem of any project that distribute tokens to Bounty hunters is seeing that tokens be dump.

And again the same song. A fairy tale story about how a handful of unorganized bounty hunters brought down the prices of company tokens))) Just so that nothing happens, the amount of bounty rewards rarely exceeds 1%

Bounty hunters and investors have their own choices, the decisions they make depend on the quality of the project. If the project is good, the product is promising and functional, then investor confidence in the project will be higher, so they will continue to support. It is different if the project lacks potential, or does not develop as expected, investors will definitely prefer to secure their funds by immediately releasing the project. The same thing is done by bounty hunters. In my opinion, bounty hunters are also investors, with the capital in the form of dedicated support.

I'm not Agree with the suggestion because many projects needs people who will hold tokens/coins for a long time and sell when time is correct mostly due to many  bounty hunters being dumpers because they involve in many projects and only care projects which pay more for few activities 

investors and prize hunters don't want to lose and they certainly want to get a project profit, especially with investors also wanting to get their funds back from the project investment, while prize hunters also want to make up for time by selling the token of proceeds from the projects they participate in. investors and prize hunters are the same, but it all depends on the behavior of the person himself.

Most of the projects have no products or services, and just the purpose of those projects is the launch of making money. You can see various projects are adding in CMC every day directly launched in exchanges and all of them purpose is making money to get listed after paying exchanges fees, so I don't think investors are bounty hunters dumping the altcoins this is depends on projects team and mostly projects team is involved in dumping the altcoins.

Adding to this, when the coin got listed already on market, eventually it will be added on CMC.. Few months later, the coin or token will loses volume, why? Some investors jump ship again on newer one, same case for hunters, as long there is a profit or earned from that project they will just say goodbye after they sell it. No offense to many hunters but this is true, that hunters matter the payment and not the tokens itself.

The answer is both, I am a full time bounty Hunter and I prefer holding some tokens I earned through bounties, also I spend some thousands of dollars on Bitcoin and Ethereum too, not all bounty hunters dump the tokens and coins they earned

Of course, investors are more interested in cryptocurrencies. They care because they have invested their money in projects in this market. And bounty hunters only try to dump it as soon as possible because they think the tokens are free and their effort is worth it.

In my opinion, i believe that bounty hunters values crypto currency more.

Why ?

An investor never cares about any project, they only worry about their profit, which is why after earning several bonuses from ieo/ico, they dump without a blink of an eye.

But for bounty hunters, who earned so little, and learnt alot about the token, and wait patiently for a proper price, before selling 80% of their earnings. Keeping 20% for the long term.

lol, you're talking about employees and bosses? Investors are always valued and more important than the bounty hunters, bounty hunters are just a cheap marketing tool of the project. They are the ones who are paid to perform the tasks given by the project.

Cryptocurrency is not just become a lucrative business, its more than that. There are a lot to learn from cryptocurrency. Both hunters and investors have their different perspective of cryptocurrencies. I believe both value cryptocurrency owing to the fact that in one way or the other cryptocurrency brightens an aspect of their lives. None should value it less.

Anyone can value cryptocurrency its individual based. The difference between an investor and a bounty hunter is that an investor so to say has money while a bounty hunter is on the quest to get money which he can invest when it comes. Placing value on cryptocurrency is dependent on the individual.

That's right, if the tokens that the bounty hunters get are good tokens, then they won't just throw them away, and so will the traders, where they tend to trade on good tokens because they have the potential to get more profits, and the traders also will not throw away good tokens in the market.

Both bounty hunters and investor has same objective which is collected money as much as can. But, there is some bounty hunters only want quick money & dump the token and the rest hold their token till touch good price. Both are value to crytocurrency space.

- What you said is not necessarily true because if investors poured their money into the project, bounty hunters may not have poured money but they are using their time and effort on the project, they never want to sell tokens as soon as possible when it's their effort, they need a fair price for the sweat they have spent. The person who really doesn't care much about crypto is probably the investor, they use little effort, they don't know the value of each token, they just look at the profit that can be achieved

Most hunters now like that they sell their tokens cheaply as long as they get money I think it's their right but decreases me it's a foolish act to sell tokens easily with a long time working by promoting bounties, of course the longest person will hold their tokens from bounty what else is seen from promising projects in the future will certainly be their investment results from the bounty.

No, you have to really know what the purpose of the investment is before you blame investors. Investors are those who use most of their money on projects that are being developed in the hope of profit from them. The success of a project in this case depends very much on the amount of investment from the investor. If the amount of funds needed by the project reaches the target, then the project will be declared successful and vice versa.

Investors can get the opportunity to have a product in advance for the project they are investing. They have the opportunity to trade it earlier than the project development team itself. However, if the coins or tokens that they have from the results of their investment have good potential in the future, they will wait until the project goes according to plan and also not all investors think the same. Because the purpose of investing is to make a profit, there is no harm in selling the assets invested if they see a profit.

If you are a bounty hunter and you get money from your work from him then you should be thankful because without investors maybe all the gift programs that you follow will not pay for your work because they do not reach sales targets that ultimately cant be developed. If this is caused by a price drop and not as you expected, then know that the price of tokens or coins circulating in the market are all determined by the trader and if the trader wants a high price then you will also get a higher payment.

I disagree with your statement that investors are people who do not care about the development of the project, those who do not know the price of the tokens or coins they are investing and in my opinion this statement is just nonsense. If investing is not something in the form of money, maybe you are free to say anything and I hope your statement does not offend the investors who read it.

All people want to make money. Bounty hunters, like investors, accumulate coins for their own benefit. Everyone hopes to sell a coin at the highest possible price.
But there is one difference, the share of hunters is much smaller than the share of investors, and if the project is crap, then a small share of hunters is enough for the price to drop.
But blaming them for this makes no sense, the point is that the project is crap.

I think the answer is very clear that the investor is more important, regardless of the bounty hunter dumping tokens, the investors are the ones who bring the money directly to the projects and indirectly to the bounty hunter. .

None of these two groups are more important than the other. A successful project needs both the investors and the bounty hunters. Investors are needed for the initial funding and the bounty hunters are needed for the publicity and advertisement. A lot of people have a habit of downplaying the time and effort put in by the bounty hunters. That is not right, and without the bounty hunters none of the projects would be successful.

You are right, both investors and bounty hunters have similar objective which is center on making more money. The issue of price dumb can not be blame on just specific set of people as everyone in the chain of cryptocurrency projects be it the team, investors as well as bounty hunters have reasons to dumb token. We've seen lot of project that went south due to intentional token dumb by the team, many cases of investors and bounty hunters  dumping their bag too

Bounty hunters and investors are two sides of a coin, both are equally important for the sustainability of a project.
But if the project team always delays paying bounty participants [changing the initial agreement unilaterally]
with the reason to avoid dump, this is a red flag.
Projects like this are usually exit scam,investors must pay attention to this

And in the other-side investors also are the most part of dumpers, if they sell out especially those ho bought from the early stages will bring a huge impacts. If they hold for trusting the project then it will be a good sign for succeeding.
Bounty hunters is just a small portions of this entire business.

When something costs someone or costs people their time, efforts and funds they will put their heart into it, that is to say, that thing in question matters to them. What am saying is, both investors and  hunters values cryptocurrencies and I can't say who values it more because each of them input what he has at that point in time; for bounty hunters they input their time, effort, resources (social media accounts etc) and little funds for data services while investors input their funds and time as well. So from all indications, both are needed to drive a platform forward and both really values their cryptocurrencies.

LOL you must be kidding me ;D. How do you say that bounty hunters are the ones that value the cryptocurrencies more than the investors. They all value cryptocurrency, that’s true, but I think that investors are the ones that value the cryptocurrencies more than the bounty hunters. The hunters are workforces that are hired by the devs of the cryptocurrency project and the work of these bounty hunters is to promote the cryptocurrency so as to gain investors.

Bounty hunters already have a job they are doing, which is to promote cryptocurrency and get paid, then if they happen to be interested in the cryptocurrency, they can decide to store it instead of selling it and converting to another one. Investors value the project more because they only saw it and developed interest in it, that’s what prompted them to invest.

Investors do not decide on which currency will be liked more than the others, bounty hunters are the real ones that decide on that because when a project has no bounty hunters or nobody that really does anything you will not really see that project or hear about it.

It means there could be some bad projects that gets millions of dollars worth of investment all because bounty hunters worked for them and promote it everywhere, whereas some amazing project may not get funded fully because they actually couldn't get any promoters and didn't get heard by enough people, which means investors do not invest into stuff that are good or bad, they invest into stuff that is hyped, which means bounty hunters are the real people who gives projects that value.

This question is way too much for my brain lol, because we can't go around looking at people's mind against one project I think both bounty Hunter and investors values crypto because they both want gains, some wants quick gains and some wants long term gains, that's why we have holders and dumpers

It will depend in the situation like bounty hunters can able to dump price if allocation will big, also will do that big investors if they have opportunity to first trade after exchanges listing but now bounty hunters can't such thing, because they had to wait several months to get rewards after exchange listing. It's correct teams easily can do that to selling the big scale of tokens.           

The answer is actually very simple, investors. Usually bounty participants earn money by spending time, but they prefer to sell quickly, unfortunately it has damaged the project and in some cases it may officially collapse the price! But the investor is not like that, because he invested in that project, he expects earnings and therefore does not sell fast. If the investors of a project are selling fast just like bounty hunters, it means that the project has already been garbage.

Investors, that's nothing to question about.
Bounty hunters value crypto because they can earn money out of it. We all know that they are only here just to make money and not to actually value it the same as investors. It may be both that they are after earning money, but it is different for investors in terms of risking their own money which is the opposite of the bounty hunters.

It depends how much cost your time. For example if you can earn more by doing other things than bounty campaigns, then your time is valuable and you are losing potential earnings from other source. When you invest, you lose your earned money.  :)

i think both,, not all bounty hunters are dumpers  and also there are investors who are the one dumping their coins/tokens as well.. specially when it first hit the exchange most of them

Yes of course investors are more valuable even it's simply thinking if investors people not investing in a project then those project never gain access. For explaining about bounty hunter, there just keep promote a project by earn free coins. Afterwards if bounty hunter not hold there coin then investors will take loss fund.  

absolutely right, I also once checked one of the hunters who followed the Translation Campaign, if he did a dump at the beginning (in Q4 2017 / Q1 2018) I think he had millions because at that time his asset estimate reached $ 55 K and the funny thing was he didn't do it and held back His coin yields up to now and now his portfolio leaves only $ 8,000 because some of the projects he is holding have failed and some are scam.

Its not free money, they are getting money for completing the tasks which is given to them so blaming the hunters for liquidating the token is not the right thing and this is due to more bounty allocations by the project team and it simply shows that team is not giving value to the investors and the project itself.

On a frank basis, Bounty hunters cherish the tokens more than investors

Investors are about buying low during sales and dumping high during pump.
While hunters have a sales target always

Not all bounty hunters value it, because if they do, they will not go-ahead to dump valuable tokens received after working hard in the bounty. Those who value know how to hold. It is because they believe in what they have done and they are optimistic of what they return will be at the end, that is why they usually have the courage to defend the project.
It is true that most are just after the money and they do not care even if what they get is a peanut.

Its the investor because they tend to put money at stake with the intention of  making profit, so they  take it as business in which to bounty Hunter its not taking as such. So the investor value it more than the hunter because a bounty Hunter ones is rewarded is intereste in crypto to reduce untill it venture into another project.

Not all bounty hunters has a same thinking like you and not all want to dump their token some of them invest also in a project if they know that it was worth it to invest or if they knew the project will be having a big potential in the future, but this is only think you need to remember that not all the bounty hunter was dumper.

Who values it the most is the investors,

Because they are investing their money in exchange for cryptocurrency, they will value it until they receive their expected return of investment. Bounty hunters are working to earn it as a reward but they will tend to dump it immediately after it was listed in the exchange.

Very interesting question but  from my point if view everybody want to sell their coin on high prices. Bounty hunters has work through social media to earn any coin,on other hand investors has put their hard earned money in any project to buy some coins so it is naturally looking that investors will values cryptocurrencies more than the bounty hunters. some bounty may kept their earned cryptocurrencies for future to get some big price. Both respect crypto in the same level.

From an economic point of view, it is investors who charge any project with fuel by investing their money in it. Without serious investment, no startup could have achieved solid success. Good development teams need decent pay for their work, so any cryptocurrency start-up will not get far on bare enthusiasm. However, here is no doubt that bounty hunters are almost the main advertising project managers. Therefore, I believe that it is not appropriate to compare the merits of bounty hunters and investors. Each of these categories of people has its own tasks and contribution to the development of projects.

Between  them the modification is that investors put their cash on this development and hope to prevail on profit. whereas, bountu hunters tired their energy and time, to promote this plan to progress rewarded in return. investors merit further if they invested, for the reason that if they accomplish not judge the capability of the project, why would they endanger their riches in the head place? but if the foresee owners cherish their project, they won't give permission their advertise folding and not follow posterior their feet. if they hold deep foundation, they bottle by a long way overcome these dumpers, they container levitate another time if they engage in priceless outcome or ceremony to offer.

From records, investors value cryptocurrencies more than bounty hunters. Investors value their holdings because they get the tokens by purchasing with their money and normally have huge holdings than what bounty hunters do.

As they always say, there are 2 sides of the story. I will try to share both of it from what I know.

1. There are some bounty hunters and investors who are doing what they want just because of profit. I have been a bounty hunter for quite some time in my first months here and at the same time been an investors into 1-2 projects I think (which I really regret the most). With my experience, most of the bounty hunters want to sell their tokens that they got from bounty campaign to have some money and don't care about holding. Same with investors. They are only investing for profit and nothing more so as the token is listed on an exchange, they will dump it automatically.

2. On the other hand even though there are some bounty hunters or investors who are dumping the tokens, there are still some who choose to hold their tokens hoping that it will rise from its current value in the long term. Some felt regret and some felt happiness.

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Overall, it depends on the person if what are their objectives in the tokens that they hold. Either they will sell it or hold it.

Both sides values crypto, some bounty hunters don't have a penny to invest in any coins or token and they join bounties so they can have coins in their portfolio, some sell bounty tokens and buy Bitcoin, we are all here for profits for sure but many are in for long term ride

I think neither of them appreciates crypto because in their mind they only get profit, so after listing they will compete to sell it
- Bounty Hunter thinks "this is only a free token so I will sell it at any price, because I don't have money"
- investors think "if I sell all tokens + bonuses I have then I will get a profit"

Well, what I think is both of them. Because both of them are after of making money. It's just depends on a person how he value his cryptocurrency. For bounty hunters, crypto is important because of the reward that they can get, this is the product of their hard work. While for investors, they risk their money to earn profit in a certain period of time.

Of course, it would be the investors who shed their own money would value cryptocurrency more than the bounty hunters. Cryptocurrencies that hunters gain through airdrops, bounties, campaigns are a very little amount and to them, they can sell it in a heartbeat.

who will appreciate the cryptocurrency is the community, and the community comes from investors and bounty hunters, we cannot know whether the project is good going forward, but investors and bounty hunters will have the same feelings if they support the project, and of course HOLD is an option,

1. I'm here to hold some coins and tokens for future sake
2. I still promote bounties so that I can have more Bitcoin
3. If the bounty project is future secured I do hold

I'm 2 in 1, a Bounty Hunter and an investor, and I value Crypto, I have Bitcoin, ethereum, and some altcoins for both short term and long term

Looking at the topic, it seems as if the bounty hunters and the investors are doing some charity for cryptocurrency. That's not the case. Bounty hunters are not providing their services for free, and the investors would refrain from the projects if they feel they are likely to end up in loss. After all, everyone is looking to make profits, and both these groups are not exceptions.

Holding is always a good choice in investing, but you do not always make a profit because the crypto market is very volatile and unpredictable. I usually choose to invest only when the market starts to have good news coming out and will sell immediately once I have made a large profit from those coins. Of course, before investing, I always have a specific strategy to ensure my assets.

We have many weak hands in crypto space that don't like holding, we have tons of traders on exchanges as well doing their daily trading, we even have new projects using bounty hunters to create awareness around crypto space, there is no accurate way to know who values crypto the most, we all have our aims, many prefers top coins and some prefers new altcoins

Bounty hunters will also sell tokens immediately if they receive it, because they receive them from their job. Can watch as it is free. As for the investors, they use the money to buy those tokens so they will definitely appreciate it and only sell when it is profitable.

As for everyone who keeps saying bounty hunters only know how to dump well it's same thing for investors too, once the ICO or IEO they invested on did 2x or 5x many will surely start dumping, I plan to hold few tokens Im going to earn from bounties since I have no cash to buy coins

Do you know the essence of being a bounty hunters? Being a bounty hunter once they find something that will give them
benefits in the future of course they will work out for it, then once they get a chance to sell to become money of course at once
they will sell it in the trading exchange platform.

The both want same thing, profit. While majority of bounty will dump the token immediately it goes on exchange, investors might wait a bit longer. At long run both are chasing more money. 

Definitely investors, because they enter this market with their own money. So they will be careful in all their decisions, they will not be easy to panic and only sell when it is profitable. As for the bounty hunter, they will sell everything when they receive them and cause the price to collapse

I think not all bounty hunters sell immediately and make prices collapse, there are still many bounty hunters who still hold the results of the bounty campaign to wait until the price rises becomes more expensive, but with a note that the project does have good potential in the future, whereas if not then it's better to sell it than sorry.

Both want the same thing, which is profit. If you say bounty hunters, how about those projects which gets listed and the price dumps terribly, who are those who dumped when bounty hunters are yet to get their rewards? The answer is Investors. Therefore when bounty hunters receives theirs, you can't possibly expect them to hold when the price is already down, they will still sell, although there are still bounty hunters who holds. Also, there are still cryptocurrencies which investors will hold for long because of long term profit which some bounty hunters will sell once they get their reward. Thus from the look of things, in my own opinion, both are after the same thing.

From my point of view both are important to any projects. Bounty hunters are those who can attract investors. Investors are those who provides necessary funds for project.
Many people think that dumping happens only because of hunters. But this is not true. 5 or 10 percent tokens can not lower down prices to more than 50%. It's the team and early private investors, we should blame for it.

Of course, bounty hunters make a very big contribution to the development of the project and promote the company in various social networks.  But this is not being evaluated properly.  Investors are another matter.  Especially thoughtful investors study projects before investing.  The time has passed when it was possible to make investments and make good profits.  Now we need to conduct a good analysis and this does not guarantee a 100% result.  It is impossible to say who values ​​cryptocurrencies more, as a result, we are all here to make money.  But personally, I like to do this, because of the great involvement in the technology itself and to learn useful information, thereby developing and keeping up with the times.

most project owners assume that prize hunters are the cause of dump prices. but if we read carefully, how much is the prize received by the bounty hunter to make a dump price ??

Of course investors is more valuable in the crypro project, all of the project, start-up, investors have more valuable to make the project grow. The more investors are invested their money, we know that project is good.
Bounty hunter is needed for increase the sales, but we must have good marketing to attract the investors.

Nor every bounty hunter dumper and there are many hunter here stay holding long time after receive rewards. Personally i have been hold many coin from bounty because there market situation very bad so i am not excited selling.
You're right investors want hold long time for making good profits, even it's the crypto investing roadmap.

There is no doubt investors values their investment more because they invested their money into the project unlike bounty hunters who just invest their time, though some people say "Time is money" but investors have real skin in the game and most of the time are in for long time unlike Bounty hunters that can't wait for the tokens to hit the market and dump at the earliest possible time

OP thinks that bounty hunters are better because they put in work while investors put in money. It's different.

If bounty hunters had money they'd probably choose money but they don't. Bounty hunters are poor investors who have to work to be able to invest in a project.

Investors have enough capital to make money by moving it around. They don't have to get into bounty programs.

First of all not all bounty hunters are dumpers, mind that. Some bounty hunters are smart too, don't belittle on them because they can sense good project since the beginning of the campaign they are working into. If a project got dumped, not all hunters are too blame because some investors dumped it too, that's the real fact in this industry. So, i would take on both sides of this topic because both of them serves it's purpose in the crypto industry and both are benefited with profits.

lol.. I laugh at this topic  ;D.. who values cryptocurrency more you say.. first of,.. bounty hunters are selfish.. 90% will cheat the campaign which their participating on.. just to get more of that so called currency they're promoting.. they're not honest with themselves you'll see them promoting a coin on Twitter saying all sort of Good shit about the coin, but in truth.. their only doing it because they're get paid to do it.. and they're known major jumpers in the crypto space

while investors on the other hand.. some are honest with the company they purchase their coin or token.. but at the end of the day.. we're in to make profit.. you see them complaining about how the coin is trading below average ico price .. stuff like that.. some are willing to trump the coin in less that a month if the project team doesn't meet up to standards they expected before investing... they forget cryptocurrencys need time for thing to work

You can’t say that hunters study the project better and more thoroughly. Investing isn't a sponsoring on poverty. Just like hunters the investors pursue one goal - to make a profit. The difference is in the way they get. Hunters earn money on promoting the project and investors invest their money.

You're absolutely right. Although I'm a bounty hunter, I don't speak in favour of Bounty hunters because bounty hunters are the real dumpers of tokens 80% on the market. Bounty hunters promote because they are in to make the money and sell and bounce to the next project. Investors can stick around for long term since they invested with their money.

Investors value it more because when the market dumps they will always hold tokens they have, when they feel they have enough profit or they don't even get any profit they will sell it, bounty hunters don't really care about prices in the market

How sure are you that they will hold?

If you make a simple analysis, you will see that its the investors who are dumping that is why the price dump.
Bounty hunters are getting only a very small portion of the total tokens sold, usually 1% or lower, so how can that cause a dump if all investors will hold?

Yes, bounty hunters will never care about the project and the price. As long as they receive the token, they will definitely sell and receive money immediately. Many projects have collapsed because bounty hunters panic tokens at the first stage

I think that question is unnecessary. Every project do bounty campaigns as a way to get investors, so investors should be the ones that values the project and not really the hunters. Hunters are mainly there for one purpose which is to promote the project and help get more Investors to invest their money in the project. So, after their work they expect to get paid and when they are paid with the tokens they sell it to get their payment for the work they did.

Investors are the ones who invest their money in the project because they believe in it that it’s going to grow from there. So, this question is unnecessary. But, different people are having different opinion hence we cannot need to do anything this type of questions other than simply moving-on.

Both investors and Bounty hunters are in to make money, and I also want to clarify the fact that every good investor does thorough research before investing in any project, contrary to what OP mentioned. Personally I'm more of an investor than a Bounty hunter, and I spend more time to do research on a project I want to invest in especially long term. This doesn't mean i do not engage in research before doing a Bounty, it's always the first step. In essence, both investors and bounty hunters value crypto, no need for saying one value crypto more since it now depends on individuals. For instance, some hunters might decide to hold a coin gotten via Bounty while investors dump and vice versa, it's a two way thing.

If you are talking in a logic like the bounty hunters dump the coins, the same can be said about investors, majority of the investors are in to make money in a short period of time and if they feel like they market will pump to a certain level, then the investors will book their profit rather than holding it for a longer period of time, we had seen thousands of projects in the past few years and what all projects continue to function, majority sold the coins when they had the profit and moved on.

Investors I guess, they mostly tend to be in the game for long term investment only, once upon a time bounty hunters do care to hold their token shares but not anymore because many projects are just turning into scam projects today

A lot of comments on this post claiming hunters are to be blame for token dumps. you can accuse hunter all you care but remember that hunters only earn 2 to 3% of tokens in the project. meanwhile, investors are pay for over 30 to 50% of the token during sales. most times the tokens are first distributed to investors who went along to sell at their own choice. this happens before bounty rewards are been distributed.

 My opinion; a good project will always produced a positive turnover in the market irrespective of investors and bounty tokens. so many tokens in the markets did bounty, distribute on time and are still doing perfectly well in the market. velocity, quanta, elrond, etc.

I am tired of hearing this ridiculous argument again and again. This guy doesn't know what he is talking about. Bounty pool is normally 0.5% to 1% of the total budget. Even if we assume that half of all the bounty hunters dump their token in a single day, the total comes to just 0.5%. For comparison, the daily trade volume for Bitcoin is 25% of its market cap. There is no point in blaming the bounty hunters for the failure of a project. If the project is good, then it will survive. Else, it will fail. Bounty hunters can't be made convenient scapegoats all the time.

I'm thinking of the opposite. Not all bounty hunters do their research about a project before promoting it. Most bounty hunters wants to make quick money, so as soon as they see campaigns that are pleasing to the eyes and have big amount of rewards to offer, they usually grab what they believe as "a good opportunity" which most of the time ends up being a scam. As for investors, they are the ones who makes research because they tend to hold it for long term.

Investors in my opinion, because they believe in long term some bounty hunters just want to earn some money and a big part of then sell the rewards right away.

Time is money we all know that so if investors put their money hunters put their time in the promotion of the project so i think in the end it is kind of a team work that covers all the aspects of the project and contribute towards its success so i would say that both investors and promoters value cryptos equally because both are part of the support community.

Bounty hunters are not relevant in those cryptocurrencies and what has more value are the investors. Bounty hunters are just someone who gets a leak from a pipe that has money flowing on it. Those money flowing from the pipes are from the investors that makes the system works. Bounty hunters doesn't risk any money at all unlike investors and by that, this concludes that bounty hunters doesn't care unless there is money involved.

99% of bounty hunter will sell all token after getting it from bounty. They've lost a lot of money in the past when they held those tokens so they were scared to keep holding them.

I would sell my tokens if the coin is gonna be worthless in the future. I wouldn't sell if the volume is really good, i would hold the token instead.

New projects will often have liquidity problems because they are only listed on small exchanges in this market. That is also the reason why many bounty hunters lose faith in the project and are willing to sell everything when they receive it