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Title: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: mk4 on March 25, 2020, 06:44:07 AM
Had a quick conversation with Pilipinas moderator Mr. Big (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678) and we discussed(and agreed upon) about having a Coronavirus(COVID-19) megathread sa section natin para mabawas bawasan ang Coronavirus-related topics sa section natin; dahil masyado ng nagiging redundant ang topics natin.

Anyway, here it is. Hopefully to clean up our section a bit.

Some notes from Mr. Big (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553678):

  • Discussion should be concerning the Coronavirus here in the Philippines.
  • All information should be backed with source/s, to prevent the spread of fake/misleading information.
  • News from other countries are off-topic unless may connection sa Philippines or at least sa situation natin.


Some helpful links concerning COVID-19 in the Philippines(grabbed some from the megathread of the r/Philippines (https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/) subreddit): ⬇️⬇️⬇️

  • Official DOH Patient Tracker (https://ncovtracker.doh.gov.ph/)
  • Official DOH Viber Group (https://invite.viber.com/?g2=AQBloG+2iYcA9Ess+lEA7D6mSoLKBx642avqJSzYpecNd3Ah1SR/W1ZNR0K2OrQY)
  • Telegram Channel that tracks Coronavirus news within PH (https://t.me/phcoronavirus)
  • List of places you can donate to or volunteer to help (https://www.rappler.com/move-ph/254532-help-donation-drive-medical-supplies-healthcare-workers-coronavirus)
  • List of online grocery stores (https://www.facebook.com/MyMakatiVerified/photos/a.288372357951564/2644649978990445/)
  • List of online job sites (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630103366483312653/689106946250506243/ETN9AL8UMAEngol.png)
  • Interactive map of all checkpoints (https://www.safetravel.ph/)
  • DOH social media accounts: Twitter (https://twitter.com/DOHgovph) | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/OfficialDOHgov)
  • Twitter: Updates on the Covid-19 situation in the Philippines (https://twitter.com/i/events/1240294719365636097)

God bless mga kabayan, and stay safe. 🇵🇭


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 25, 2020, 07:07:58 AM
I'm not against with this thread pero gusto ko lang malaman na hindi pa ba ito yung Mega thread regarding COVID-19 dito sa Pilipinas?
  • Corona Virus in the Philippines. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231520.0)
The thread is informal but as we can see, the replies there are updates and information regarding sa COVID-19 which is ako din minsan ay naguupdate din doon. The thread of a user @XenoFever lasted for almost 16 days at sobrang dami ng replies and discussion regarding COVID-19.

Kasi kung sobrang daming related threads regarding COVID-19, report to be locked/deleted nalang sana yung iba and stay to the existing ones. Anyways, kung ito na talaga yung official megathread regarding COVID-19 mas okay kasi maiiwasan na yung spam threads, I hope na ma-locked nalang yung isa (http://url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231520.0), kaysa ma-delete kasi sayang yung updates ng ibang members doon at matatanggal lang dahil may bagong official mega thread.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: mk4 on March 25, 2020, 07:31:23 AM


Good question.

We can be free to use other existing threads naman(including the thread of XenoFever of course), the goal of this sort of "megathread" is to prevent(or lessen, not necessarily na magiging bawal) the creation of newer ones, and to have a megathread that's hopefully more strict in terms of ung information na prinoprovide ng ating mga kabayan(see suggested rules of Mr. Big).

Anyway, if this thread doesn't get enough traction in a few days/weeks, hayaan nalang nating mamatay tong thread. No biggie.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 25, 2020, 07:45:02 AM
XenoFever's topic is already locked and I'm guessing our local mod did that to give way for this topic. The problem with that topic eh hindi nag-edit yung OP at nag-dagdag ng mga updated information. Kung isa ito sa aim ng bagong thread, I have no issue. So bale ililipat na lang mga ibang information dun at ilagay dito kagaya ng mga contact numbers.

DOH social media accounts:
  • https://twitter.com/DOHgovph
  • https://www.facebook.com/OfficialDOHgov

Twitter also launched a COVID-19 page to monitor updates dito sa Pinas - Updates on the Covid-19 situation in the Philippines (https://twitter.com/i/events/1240294719365636097)


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Mr. Big on March 25, 2020, 07:54:46 AM
Di ko na mabilang kung ilang beses may thread na na merge ko dun sa existing discussion ng corona, but I think kailangan nating ng isang thread lang, yung seryoso, I'll be watching this, hanggang sa matapos ang home quarantine sa Pilipinas...

Hopefully, lahat kayo nasa bahay, and may time mag research, ng mga pwede maka tulong na information and pwede ma ishare dito, para sa kaalaman ng lahat...


Kung may chance kayo to donate sa mga nasa frontline, do it, abutan niyo kahit man lang bottled water pag may nadaanan kayo na checkpoint, ang init ngayon, baka sila naman ang mapahamak...

Yung mga hanggang 1 month ang stock na bigas, kayang kaya mamalengke araw araw, wag nang kukuha ng pinamimigay ng barangay, ipaubaya niyo na yun sa mga walang wala talaga...

Huwag tayo maging counter productive ngayon, panahon to na dapat tulong tulong

Stay safe... Huwag mainit ang ulo na hindi nakaka labas, o di nakaka order sa online shops...  :)

Good vibes...  :D


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: crwth on March 25, 2020, 08:04:29 AM
Naiimagine ko yung dami ng topics ng nalilipat ni Mr. Big just about COVID pero maganda na din naman na meron kasi isa ito sa pinagdadaanan ng lahat eh, ma share lahat ng dinadamdam. Wag lang sana paulit ulit  >:(

Magandang ideya yung pag bigay ng tubig para sa mga nasa checkpoint. Nung isang labas ko kasi nung nakaraan linggo, nandun lang sila sa may puno kasi mainit talaga at hindi na masyado nakapag trabaho, lalo na yung mga suot nila.

Stay safe... Huwag mainit ang ulo na hindi nakaka labas, o di nakaka order sa online shops...  :)
Pwede pa din naman, kaso hindi lang madedeliver. Na tempt din kasi ako mamili kaso narealize ko, hindi na ito dadating agad agad.  ::)



For more information about Covid-19 na naka infographics, pwede dito niyo kunin

https://www.doh.gov.ph/2019-nCov/infographics


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 25, 2020, 08:45:05 AM
Mag-follow nalang din tayo mga social media pages na legit na nagbibigay news and updates.
Stay safe... Huwag mainit ang ulo na hindi nakaka labas, o di nakaka order sa online shops...  :)

Good vibes...  :D
Mas okay nga 'yon na monitored mo ito just in case na may makitang non-sense or not related post about COVID-19, rekta delete.
Stay safe din @Mr. Big and sa lahat.


Baka wala pang nakakaalam sa inyo nito. Real time update sa buong mundo kung ilang confirmed cases at namamatay kada minuto.
Pati ang Recovered cases and mga Bansa na may pinakamaraming cases sa buong mundo.
  • https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
It's a good source of information at diyan lang din naka-base ang ibang news platform.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Vaculin on March 25, 2020, 08:45:36 AM
Good to see that we have one dedicated thread for the corona virus news and update in our country.

There's panic happening already in our country, the number of cases has been increasing rapidly, do you think this will remain under control by the governmnet? Based on my observation, nasa 100+ cases na ang per day natin. paaano yan, mukhang bilis ahh.. parang nag pump lang na btc.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 25, 2020, 08:52:30 AM
PRRD already signed into law the Bayanihan to Heal as One Act or the RA 11469 (https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/read-republic-act-11469-or-the-bayanihan-to-heal-as-one-act/ar-BB11Fw1K) to combat COVID-19. Bisitahin na lang ang link at basahin kung ano ang nakapaloob dito.



Maraming time sa social media ang mga tao ngayon. Maliban sa tiktok, maraming rants about COVID-19 kagaya ng mass testing. Bago tayo sumali sa mga ganoong klaseng online balitaktakan, mahalaga na maintindihan din natin ang proseso dito. Please read this article from Dr. Edsel Salvana - Testing! Testing! Understanding What's Good and What's Not for Testing COVID-19 (https://www.esquiremag.ph/life/health-and-fitness/covid-testing-a2099-20200319-lfrm)

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Dr. Edsel Salvana is an infectious disease physician, molecular biologist and the director of the Institute of Molecular Biology and Biotechnology at the National Institutes of Health at the University of the Philippines Manila. He is a Clinical Associate Professor and Research Coordinator at the Section of Infectious Diseases of the Department of Medicine at the Philippine General Hospital.

Another article - Mass testing ‘unrealistic’ in PH at this time: infectious disease expert (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/24/20/mass-testing-unrealistic-in-ph-at-this-time-infectious-disease-expert)


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: GDragon on March 25, 2020, 12:45:54 PM
Senator Koko Pimentel breached MakatiMed hospital infection control protocols.

Isang paalala na mag self quarantine lalo kung PUI. Malaking problema din, nabawasan pa ang Makatimed ng tauhan. Mahalaga din na laging nagsasabi ng totoo para hindi na makadamay ng mga frontliners. He should have set a good example imbes na i-endanger ang ilang kinakailangan pa natin.

Commending Makati Med for the brave move.  

https://i.imgur.com/Xok6e78.jpg


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: asu on March 25, 2020, 11:27:40 PM
Senator Koko Pimentel breached MakatiMed hospital infection control protocols.

Isang paalala na mag self quarantine lalo kung PUI. Malaking problema din, nabawasan pa ang Makatimed ng tauhan. Mahalaga din na laging nagsasabi ng totoo para hindi na makadamay ng mga frontliners. He should have set a good example imbes na i-endangered ang ilang kinakailangan pa natin.
...

Nothing to add more aggression sakanya dahil even mga tv casters frustrated sa ginawa niya. Nakakalungkot lang na hindi mo masabi kung gaano kagulo yung nangyayari. Hanggat maari tulungan na lang, yung wala ng sasabihin sa mali ng isa. Parusahan na lang ang lumabag, para wala ng magtatangka na susunod pa.

I just wish na hindi mangyari sa kanyang magiging anak ang kagaya nito[1] na pinaka batang na infect ng covid-19 dahil yung mother niya ay suspected na positive sa virus. May nabasa lang ako na rumors na suspected positive din ang asawa niya.

Stay safe. Take care of your loved ones!

Wishing us all 🌎

Peace
Love

Laban 🇵🇭


[1] A Newborn Baby In The UK Tested Positive For Coronavirus (https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/a-newborn-baby-in-the-uk-tested-positive-for-coronavirus/amp.html?__twitter_impression=true)


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: julerz12 on March 26, 2020, 12:47:48 AM
I'm glad we now have a place to properly discuss this.
Nakakabahala iyong increasing number of confirmed cases dito satin sa Pinas. On March 23rd, 86 naidagdag (https://web.facebook.com/OfficialDOHgov/posts/3168534729824424), kahapon, [03/25] 84 naman (https://web.facebook.com/OfficialDOHgov/posts/3173882412622989).
Consider this, even if just each one of those new 80+ cases infected two persons, then that's another 160+! Tingin ko dadami pa confirmed cases dito sa atin since the Covid-19 testing kits isn't widely available lalong-lalo na sa mga nasa lower class.

Ang mas nakaka-irita pa is 'yong mga kababayan natin na matitigas ang ulo at ayaw mag-home quarantine (cough* coco).  >:(
I wouldn't mind if the Goverment would implement a total lockdown sa buong Pilipinas para maagapan na itong krisis na ito 'cause the sooner this goes on, mas lalala pa yung problema, not only with the virus but with our economy as well.


[Sources]
DOH COVID-19 CASE BULLETIN #011 (https://web.facebook.com/OfficialDOHgov/posts/3173882412622989)
DOH COVID-19 CASE BULLETIN #009 (https://web.facebook.com/OfficialDOHgov/posts/3168534729824424)


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: mk4 on March 26, 2020, 03:16:15 AM
Some.. really really bad news. Wag na tayong magtaka kung sobrang baba ng confirmed cases natin compared sa ibang bansa.  :-\

https://i.imgur.com/oPCxlNM.png

source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-19-tests-country?country=AUS+AUT+BEL+BRA+COL+FIN+FRA+DEU+IDN+MYS+NOR+PAK+PHL+RUS+KOR+THA+GBR+USA+VNM


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 27, 2020, 04:43:16 AM
Naglabas na ng National Action Plan (https://www.facebook.com/pcoogov/posts/3410996225596681) ang Gobyerno. Please read.



Isa sa mga challenges din ng Government ngayon ay yung paglaban sa mga fake/false information sa social media which is causing panic sa mga kababayan natin. Kanina lang may naririnig ako sa mga kapitbahay about two-weeks total lockdown at ayun nga nag-puntahan na sila bigla sa mga convenient stores kung saan ang haba ng pila bago makapasok. That information is FALSE according to the post (https://www.facebook.com/pcoogov/photos/a.1377432535619737/3411902548839382/) Presidential Communications page.

Let us be responsible sa mga shared posts natin at kung may nababasa man tayo, please verify muna sa mga authorized agencies (https://www.covid19.gov.ph/fact-check/). The Inter-Agency Task Force on Emerging and Infectious Disease (IATF-EID) lamang ang authorized to release such information.

Please help report these malicious posts that are meant to sow fear and derail the efforts of the Government para mapabilis ang paglaban sa COVID-19.

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/90876557_3411902552172715_5526599445015166976_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_oc=AQnm_yoJxI1AuTmoewREifXw-148Wxaijw56SyJrxpxeP8FZd1cxrlDO4mnK-M6umX8&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=70b63ce512aa0f43884ce347e9924734&oe=5EA33486


 


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: bL4nkcode on March 27, 2020, 08:39:45 PM
Let us be responsible sa mga shared posts natin at kung may nababasa man tayo, please verify muna sa mga authorized agencies (https://www.covid19.gov.ph/fact-check/). The Inter-Agency Task Force on Emerging and Infectious Disease (IATF-EID) lamang ang authorized to release such information.

Please help report these malicious posts that are meant to sow fear and derail the efforts of the Government para mapabilis ang paglaban sa COVID-19.
Hanggat walang law related sa mga fake news dito satin, madami pa ring magkakalat niyan.

Kaya hanggat maaari once may na basa kayo na parang hot news or any news, please do make fact-checking, search some related news at least 5 of them sa ibat ibang news outlet kase magiging isa kayo sa mga ways na nag kalat ng misinformation if naniniwala ka tapus share agad.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 27, 2020, 10:47:23 PM
USA na ang nangunguna pagdating sa confirmed cases na may 101,321 na confirmed cases.
Pumapangalawa naman ang Italy na may 86,498 confirmed cases at ang China na may 81,340 confirmed cases.   

Ang Pilipinas naman ay may 803 cases ngayon at posibleng tumaas ulit mamaya, 54 na ang namatay at 34 ang naka-recover.

Real-time na sources ko and nagu-update every minute or hour:
  • source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus
  • Real-time Telegram updates: https://t.me/phcoronavirus

Let us be responsible sa mga shared posts natin at kung may nababasa man tayo, please verify muna sa mga authorized agencies (https://www.covid19.gov.ph/fact-check/). The Inter-Agency Task Force on Emerging and Infectious Disease (IATF-EID) lamang ang authorized to release such information.

Please help report these malicious posts that are meant to sow fear and derail the efforts of the Government para mapabilis ang paglaban sa COVID-19.
Hanggat walang law related sa mga fake news dito satin, madami pa ring magkakalat niyan.

Kaya hanggat maaari once may na basa kayo na parang hot news or any news, please do make fact-checking, search some related news at least 5 of them sa ibat ibang news outlet kase magiging isa kayo sa mga ways na nag kalat ng misinformation if naniniwala ka tapus share agad.
Hindi naman mahirap alamin kung fake news ba ang isang bagay o hindi, bukod sa IATF-EID, andyan rin naman ang mga news platform katulad ng GMA news, Inquirer, abscbn, DOH atbp na lehitimong nagpapahayang ng mga balita regarding COVID-19 dahil isang malaking kasiraan sa kanila if ever magkamali man sila ng kuha ng impormasyon. After natin makalikom ng information sa iba't ibang platform, pwede nating ipagkumpara kung alin nga ba ang tama at kung pareparehas ba.

Ang problema kasi sa ibang tao, makita lang na maayos ang pagkakagawa, pinaniniwalaan agad. Madali lang naman i-turn on notification ang mga news pages sa socmed platform, bakit kaya hindi magawa ng tao para updated at legit yung nababasa nila?


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on March 28, 2020, 06:10:08 AM
Para sa mga kababayan natin na OFW na gustong malaman ang update ng mga bansa na inyong pinagtatrabahuhan. Ito magandang tracker kung ano ang live update sa bansa na inyong pupuntahan. Ive check my country of destination and ayun sa kamalasan extended until April 14, 2020 ang locked down ng bansang ito and I have no choice but to wait.

Example nito sa Philippines, Last Updated March 22, 2020
1. Passengers who have transited through or have been in China (People’s Rep.), Hong Kong (SAR China) or Macao (SAR China) in the past 14 days are not allowed to enter the Philippines.

- This does not apply to nationals of the Philippines. They will be required to self-isolate for a period of 14 days from their arrival into the Philippines.

- This does not apply to spouses or children of nationals of the Philippines. They will be required to self-isolate for a period of 14 days from their arrival into the Philippines.

- This does not apply to permanent residents of the Philippines. They will be required to self-isolate for a period of 14 days from their arrival into the Philippines.

2.Passengers who have transited through or have been in the North Gyeongsang Province (including Daegu and Cheongdo Country) of Korea (Rep.) in the past 14 days are not allowed to enter the Philippines.

- This does not apply to nationals of the Philippines.

- This does not apply to spouses or children of nationals of the Philippines.

- This does not apply to permanent residents of the Philippines.

3. Passengers who have transited through or have been in Iran or Italy in the past 14 days are required to present a Medical Clearance or Health Declaration Certificate, issued by Health Authority within 48 hours prior to arrival and certifying that the passenger is free from Coronavirus (COVID-19).

- This does not apply to nationals of the Philippines.

- This does not apply to spouses or children of nationals of the Philippines.

- This does not apply to permanent residents of the Philippines.

Passengers who have transited through or have been in Iran or Italy in the past 14 days, are required to undergo a 14-day quarantine.

4. Passengers under the following visa categories are not allowed to enter the Philippines:

- Passengers under Visa Waiver Agreements.

- Passengers with Special Visas

- Passengers who fall under Executive Order No.408, s1960 (EO408);

- Passengers with a Hong Kong (SAR China) passport, Macao (SAR China) passport, Macao-Portuguese, and British National Overseas passports.

- Immigrant and non-Immigrant visa holders (i.e. 13, 9D, 9F, 9G, 47a(2), etc.)

This does not apply to:

- spouses and children of Filipino nationals (if they are not traveling together, they should show proof of marriage or filiation).

- government and International Organization officials whose visas were issued by the Philippines government.


Likewise, you can also view ang update ng Philippines confirm cases, death and recovery sa website na ito. All around na siya and sakop niya din just search lang ang target ninyo na bansa.


Source:
https://www.coronatracker.com/travel-alert (https://www.coronatracker.com/travel-alert)
https://www.coronatracker.com (https://www.coronatracker.com)


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: bL4nkcode on March 28, 2020, 06:42:43 AM
Hindi naman mahirap alamin kung fake news ba ang isang bagay o hindi, bukod sa IATF-EID, andyan rin naman ang mga news platform katulad ng GMA news, Inquirer, abscbn, DOH atbp na lehitimong nagpapahayang ng mga balita regarding COVID-19 dahil isang malaking kasiraan sa kanila if ever magkamali man sila ng kuha ng impormasyon. After natin makalikom ng information sa iba't ibang platform, pwede nating ipagkumpara kung alin nga ba ang tama at kung pareparehas ba.

Ang problema kasi sa ibang tao, makita lang na maayos ang pagkakagawa, pinaniniwalaan agad. Madali lang naman i-turn on notification ang mga news pages sa socmed platform, bakit kaya hindi magawa ng tao para updated at legit yung nababasa nila?
Yep, too easy malaman fake nga or hindi, pero bat uma abot ng ilang thousands ang shares and likes sa mga fake news, kase marami paring mangmang, bobo, or trip lang talaga nila mag share ng ganyang uri ng posts, bagay na ikakapanic ng nakararami.

Saw this one, may ng share lang sa messenger group namin.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10216341970763352&type=3

If ever na may makita kayong posts na obvious fake, plesse pa report nalang sa platform socmed, forum ot any social media websites.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: JoMarrah Iarim Dan on March 28, 2020, 07:34:59 AM
Isang source ko din ay ang : http://m.me/covidu kapag gusto kong mabilisang icheck kung ilang na ang infected, death at recoveries sa kahit na anong bansa ay nagagamit ko ito araw araw. Masasabi ko naman na accurate ito.
Nakakabahala na magpasa hanggang ngayon ay nadadagdagan pa rin ang bilang ng kaso ng Covid-19 dito sa Pilipinas. Ngayong araw, isang probinsya na ang nagTotal lockdown ( source : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/regions/731668/laguna-placed-under-total-lockdown-due-to-covid-19-threat/story/%3famp ). Napakahirap ng sitwasyon ko na hindi nakauwi sa pamilya sa probinsya dahil hindi na nagpapasok ng bayan namin bago pa man ako makauwi.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 28, 2020, 08:12:35 AM
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Hanggat walang law related sa mga fake news dito satin, madami pa ring magkakalat niyan.

~
Actually, PNP formed a Task Force  against proliferation of false information. (https://www.facebook.com/pcoogov/videos/848929095623218/) Against kasi yan sa RA10175 which is the Anti-Cybercrime Law.

While browsing kanina, nakita ko naman to - PNP filed charges against Noveleta, Cavite Mayor Dino Chua for spreading fake news about COVID-19 (https://www.facebook.com/143947355665943/posts/3398653063528673/)



In another important news Abbott Launches 5-Minute Covid-19 Test for Use Almost Anywhere (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-27/abbott-launches-5-minute-covid-19-test-for-use-almost-anywhere)

A faster testing system is badly needed.



Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 28, 2020, 09:57:31 AM
Another update:
Umabot na sa 1075 confirmed cases dito sa Pilipinas na may 68 deaths at 35 pa lang ang narerecover.




COVID-19 cases worldwide as of 6:00PM

Total worldwide cases: 602,166
Total worldwide deaths: 27,468
Total worldwide recoveries: 133,527



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Yep, too easy malaman fake nga or hindi, pero bat uma abot ng ilang thousands ang shares and likes sa mga fake news, kase marami paring mangmang, bobo, or trip lang talaga nila mag share ng ganyang uri ng posts, bagay na ikakapanic ng nakararami.

Saw this one, may ng share lang sa messenger group namin.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10216341970763352&type=3

If ever na may makita kayong posts na obvious fake, plesse pa report nalang sa platform socmed, forum ot any social media websites.
Sa kadahilanan na maraming matatanda or bata ang di pa masyadong aware sa negatibong dulot ng socmed platforms. Mga taong tradisyunal magisip kaya mabilis maloko sa mga ganitong simpleng bagay. Dapat isa rin 'tong proyekto ng ating bansa ngunit binabalewala kasi tine-take advantage din ng ibang politicians ang mga false info especially kapag tungkol ito sa kalaban nila sa posisyon.

Sa katunayan, ginamit rin naman ng mga taong nasa gobyerno ngayon ang false information kaya narating nila ang mga posisyon na inaasam nila dati. Anyways, active ako sa socmed platforms, automatic na nirereport ka agad even mocha's page na puro pagpupuri sa mga politicians at fake news ang laman, it does not even make sense anymore. I hope yun din ginagawa ng iba.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on March 28, 2020, 03:13:33 PM
On my ride out here, the cabbie pointed out  a neighborhood in the main city that had been cordoned off with roadblocks. He said they weren't letting people in or out of there because somebody had died of the virus there last week... He said its like that in at least 3 or 4 different parts of the city. Meanwhile, our media says zero deaths in this province and only 1 confirmed case.
It seems media have hiding some facts about what was reallt happening, covering up stories and event is not helping. Kung mayroon talagang casualty, or more confirm cases every part of it should be reported, kasi makaktulong to sa statistic ng covid cases para mas aware ang general public. Sana yung actual events huwag pagtakpan kasi considered as fake news din yung inuupload na stats kung may mga hidden casualty na ayaw ideclare. Anyway thanks for the heads up.

PS: you can respond in Tagalog and I can understand it fine, I just don't want to torture you with my own Tagalog.
I did respond with mixed Tagalog, but I am curious, meaning you are Filipino?  Or just a visitor who got stranded by any chance for having vacation on the Philippines? Sorry for this off topic question.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 28, 2020, 07:11:13 PM
I'd like to hear some of your guys' stories about some of the things you are seeing around you in your respective cities and provinces.
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I don't go out unless I'm going to buy in a nearby store (just few steps away) so I can only share what I observe.

Our neighborhood is quite lax in the sense that I don't see uniformed personnel roaming around. I still see few people walking in the afternoon maybe to buy some groceries. The presence of our local government officials is hardly felt probably because houses in our neighborhood are decent looking and they probably thought it's not a priority. The only time we saw some of them was during the distribution of quarantine pass. What I appreciate though is that our street is peaceful and I haven't heard anyone being apprehended for violating curfew hours.

Social distancing wasn't observe on few occasions (like a birthday celebration where around 15-20 people attended and crammed in a small space). I hope none of them is a carrier.




I just grabbed this image on facebook and it's a perfect example of social distancing  ;D
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/90276252_2928463473863310_5154992646862667776_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_eui2=AeFKySR_bw2ubMz-EOSxD-VEwm1CbKjxIknJVpP2QnjagdyOPqxzSk1qCcDrUeqSJiCcp9fOt8tw1Re7tGP0z2yE2Y8LWqH3X7HTpDGTAMY7lA&_nc_oc=AQkmfRK52yb3TLzVnobznkJDS3QfU8B1Stf3-SkmZf2Mi9F5SPXv7Wp00-L4csiYcmE&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=e851ccbe517e15a6a4aa840d506361a7&oe=5EA3BDD4



By the way, if you guys are looking for an organization or a fund raising to donate to, check this one - NEED HELP TO BUY 2,000 BOXES OF SURGICAL MASKS (https://www.gavagives.tech/campaign/need-help-to-buy-2000-boxes-of-surgical-masks-)

Our frontliners needs all the help they can get right now and it's a race against time. The fund raising started yesterday (Philippine time) and it has already reached 65% of the total target ($45K) as of this writing. If you can spare a few bucks, consider sharing. You can donate directly from your Coinsph wallet.  See details on the link. (Fund raiser's post (https://www.facebook.com/krizette.chu/posts/10158246747824712))
100% Funded


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Theb on March 28, 2020, 07:25:06 PM
By the way, if you guys are looking for an organization or a fund raising to donate to, check this one - NEED HELP TO BUY 2,000 BOXES OF SURGICAL MASKS (https://www.gavagives.tech/campaign/need-help-to-buy-2000-boxes-of-surgical-masks-)

Our frontliners needs all the help they can get right now and it's a race against time. The fund raising started yesterday (Philippine time) and it has already reached 65% of the total target ($45K) as of this writing. If you can spare a few bucks, consider sharing. You can donate directly from your Coinsph wallet.  See details on the link. (Fund raiser's post (https://www.facebook.com/krizette.chu/posts/10158246747824712))

Hindi ko lang sure hah pero base dun sa mga interviews na gawa ng media natin sa doctors mukhang hindi daw advisable na i-donate sakanila yung normal na surgical mask yung mas preferred nila and only mask is yung N95. Yung normal na surgical mask kasi yung nakikita din nilang main reason why a lot of their nurses and doctors are either part of the PUI or are confirmed COVID-19 positive. Just check out sa mga news tuwing gabi and makikita mo ang hinihingi nila mostly is N95. Ito talaga yung nakaka-kaba sa lahat na dati akala natin yung surgical mask is enough for us to protect ourselves eh kahit nga yung mga doctors and nurses na naka surgical mask, protective headwear nahahawa pa din paano pa kaya tayo diba?


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 29, 2020, 02:50:07 AM
@Theb yeah N95 are the safest base sa mga nabasa ko din. If you know someone who has a readily available N95 masks at binebenta din niya ng maramihan, you can post it here (or contact the same fundraiser directly).

Nangyari yung fundraising na pinost ko dahil the supply is readily available na and can be delivered immediately (hindi na dadaan pa sa customs at iba pang pwedeng humarang). Gaya nga ng nabanggit, time is of the essence. The sooner our Doctors and healthworkers gets them, the higher chance na ma-save din sila from infection. Surgical mask + other PPEs gaya ng face shields to cover the entire face should be a good protection.

Edit 2: 100% funded na. Kung isa ka sa mga nag-donate, salamat!


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: finaleshot2016 on March 29, 2020, 10:15:45 AM
Sunday Update:

Isang nakakabiglang pagtaas ng confirmed cases dito sa Pilipinas dahil 343 ang nadagdag sa isang araw. Hindi na ako magtataka kung ang confirmed cases dito sa atin ay umabot pa ng libo libo kung ang mga tao ay hindi pa rin sumusunod.

Umabot na sa 1418 confirmed cases dito sa Pilipinas na may 71 deaths at 42 ang narerecover.

Sa mga frontliners natin, 12 na ang doctor ang namatay dahil sa COVID-19.




COVID-19 cases worldwide as of 6:00PM

Total worldwide cases: 669,102
Total worldwide deaths: 31,068
Total worldwide recoveries: 143,128



Ito naman ang isang good news para sa atin.

Dumating na ang donation ni Jack Ma, founder ng Alibaba tech., na mga COVID-19 testing kits. 57,600 Testing kits ang dumating sa ating bansa dahil sa tulong na rin ng ating Senador na si Manny Pacquiao. #MassTesting #NoToVIPTesting


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on March 29, 2020, 01:38:11 PM
I totally agreed with Senator Gatchalian who critizing the DOH, to be honest di talaga ready ang DOH from the very start.

source:https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/29/gatchalian-criticizes-doh-for-lack-of-preparation (https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/29/gatchalian-criticizes-doh-for-lack-of-preparation)

Hard to blame anyone but we can see the work of Government. Nakakapagod basahin and pakinggan dahilan nila lalo na yung mga reasoning ng ibang imbis nakatulong eh nanghahawa pa. Diba KOKO? Tsk. Hindi na sila naawa sa ating mga healthworkers and essential personnels.



Source:captured from Facebook

Suportahan naman sana natin lahat ng frontliners, maswerte tayong mga nasa bahay at hindi ganun kataas ang risk natin na magkacovid hindi tulad nila na talagang buwis buhay. Kaya sana huwag na makulit ang mga pinoy, kasi sa dami ng matitigas ang ulo eh pataas ng pataas pa din at dumadami ang nacoconfirm cases natin.

Im worried kasi ang sister ko is sa banking industry and I am concern sa kanyang health. Sana safe din ang mga kapamilya ninyo na frontliners mga kababayan.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: bL4nkcode on March 29, 2020, 04:26:12 PM


Source:captured from Facebook

Suportahan naman sana natin lahat ng frontliners, maswerte tayong mga nasa bahay at hindi ganun kataas ang risk natin na magkacovid hindi tulad nila na talagang buwis buhay. Kaya sana huwag na makulit ang mga pinoy, kasi sa dami ng matitigas ang ulo eh pataas ng pataas pa din at dumadami ang nacoconfirm cases natin.

Im worried kasi ang sister ko is sa banking industry and I am concern sa kanyang health. Sana safe din ang mga kapamilya ninyo na frontliners mga kababayan.
Isama na dito ang mga couriers especially drivers na nagbubuwis buhay din in every pasada nila to deliver foods and other necessary things lalo na mga medical supplies.

Mabuti wala pang confirmed cases dito kung saan ako naka stay, though may mga PUI and PUM na, pero same thing to prevent the city nag ECQ na rin dito. Stay safe people, stay at home.



Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 29, 2020, 04:35:48 PM
I totally agreed with Senator Gatchalian who critizing the DOH, to be honest di talaga ready ang DOH from the very start.

source:https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/29/gatchalian-criticizes-doh-for-lack-of-preparation (https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/29/gatchalian-criticizes-doh-for-lack-of-preparation)
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Yeah may mga parang pagkukulang pero this is not really the right time to listen to criticisms from politicians who suddenly became experts in healthcare and medical stuffs. Wala pa ako nababasang reklamo o kritisismo mula kay Manny Pacquiao na siyang pinaka-visible sa mga Senador na tumutulong maliban kay Bong Go. The way I see it at this point, Gatchalian is not different to some rabid online social justice warriors out there (sorry sa supporters niya na makakabasa). Sana nga lang merong magaling na communications team ang DOH.

Nagbabasa ako ng posts ni Dr. Edsel Salvana, isa siya sa mga present sa mga meetings, at sinasabi nga niya na DOH and other agencies are working their butts of. He's been patiently explaining to the public yung tungkol sa proseso, which some politicians/journalists/online SJWs, don't understand. Hindi basta pwede madaliin yung mga request nila kagaya ng accreditation ng mga facilities at testing centers. Tama nga naman yung sinabi ng senador na time is of the essence pero may mga guidelines pa din na dapat sundin kasi nga buhay din ang pwedeng kabayaran kapag hindi nasunod ang safety protocols. Hindi ko na kasi mabalikan yung mga specific posts niya pero if you guys are interested in learning more about the technicalities, you can follow his twitter account https://twitter.com/EdselSalvana Mas maganda makinig sa mga may alam lalo na ngayon.

Its already half a month of community quarantine and the numbers of cases is still growing here in the Philippines.
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Resulta na din siguro ito ng expanded testing. Dumarami na kasi mga kagamitan na donated at purchased kaya mas marami na ang nate-testing ngayon (dati kasi targetted tesing lang nagagawa).



May nabasa akong post (a transcribed phone interview with the FDA head Usec Eric Domingo) na maaprubahan na ng FDA yung mga donated 10-minute rapid test kits as early as Monday. The approval was delayed kasi daw they're not as accurate as the test kits they are currently using. Mas malaki daw chance na magkaroon ng higher accuracy rate kapag gagamitin this third week. Anyway, mas maganda siguro kung mabasa niyo din yung mismong post (https://www.facebook.com/TheThinkingPinoy/photos/a.568177789995995/1633637613450002/) I leave it to your judgement kung maniniwala kayo o hindi. 


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: acroman08 on March 29, 2020, 05:26:52 PM
I created this list in the hope of helping those who are looking for an active Facebook page of a certain city that has a positive case of COVID-19. also, the Facebook page of each city usually has a headcount of people who are infected on each barangay.

you'll notice that there are few cities that don't have a Facebook page link or share the same Facebook page link(they either have no Facebook page, inactive or the Facebook page cover both city). if you find an active Facebook page for those cities please let me know so I can update it. also, if I put the wrong Facebook page on a certain city please let me know.

lastly, I'm sure I missed a lot of cities and if you have a city that has a positive case of COVID-19 and is needed to be put on the list please PM me so I can add it on the list. Thanks!

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Facebook page
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City Name/Municipality/Province
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|https://www.facebook.com/pg/gocavite/posts/?ref=page_internal|Cavite City|
|https://www.facebook.com/MarikinaPIO/|Marikina City|
|https://www.facebook.com/pio.baguio/|Bagiuo City|
|https://www.facebook.com/QCGov/|Quezon City|
|https://www.facebook.com/PasigPIO/|Pasig City|
|https://www.facebook.com/ManilaPIO/|Manila|
|https://www.facebook.com/CityofSanJuanNCRPhilippines/|San Juan City|
|https://www.facebook.com/MyMakatiVerified/|Makati City|
|https://www.facebook.com/taguigcity/|Taguig City|
|https://www.facebook.com/MandaluyongPIO/|Mandaluyong City|
|https://www.facebook.com/pg/onecainta.onecainta/posts/?ref=page_internal|Cainta, Rizal|
|https://www.facebook.com/mayoredwinolivarezofficial/|Parañaque City|
|https://www.facebook.com/antipolocitygovernment/|Antipolo, Rizal|
|https://www.facebook.com/cityoflaspinasofficial/|Las Piñas City|
|https://www.facebook.com/caloocan.pio/|Caloocan City|
|https://www.facebook.com/lgupasaypio/|Pasay City|
|https://www.facebook.com/officialMuntinlupacity/|Muntinlupa City|
|https://www.facebook.com/palakat.batangascity/|Batangas|
|https://www.facebook.com/CityGovtBacoor/|Bacoor, Cavite|
|https://www.facebook.com/taytaynewsonline/|Taytay, Rizal|
|https://www.facebook.com/citygovernmentofsantarosa/|Santa Rosa City, Laguna|
|https://www.facebook.com/CIOBinan/|Biñan City, Laguna|
|https://www.facebook.com/sjdmpio/|San Jose Del Monte, Bulacan|
|https://www.facebook.com/municipalityofnaic/|Naic, Cavite|
|https://www.facebook.com/municipalityofsanildefonso/|San Ildefonso, Bulacan|
|https://www.facebook.com/cabalaunionofficial/|Caba, La Union|
|https://www.facebook.com/DavaodelSurPH/|Davao City, Davao Del Sur|
|https://www.facebook.com/marawicitygovernment/|Marawi City, Lanao Del Sur|
|https://www.facebook.com/ValenzuelaCityGov/|Valenzuela City|
|https://www.facebook.com/quezon.pio/|Lucena City, Quezon|
|https://www.facebook.com/DasmaCityNews/|Dasmariñas City, Cavite|
|https://www.facebook.com/PIABenguetInfocen/|Bagiuo City, Benguet|
|https://www.facebook.com/cabuyaofanpage|Cabuyao City, Laguna|
|https://www.facebook.com/wearemanabniansph/|Manabo, Abra|
|https://www.facebook.com/Municipality-of-Lemery-138176512915654/|Lemery, Batangas|
|https://www.facebook.com/GILASsariaya/|Sariaya, Quezon|
|https://www.facebook.com/BayanNgLimay/|Limay, Bataan|
|https://www.facebook.com/EricAfricaPage/|Lipa City, Batangas|
|https://www.facebook.com/GenTriOfficial/|General Trias, Cavite|
|https://www.facebook.com/guiguinto.gov.ph/|Guiguinto, Bulacan|
|https://www.facebook.com/MayorBernardBrioso/|Libmanan, Camarines Sur|
|https://www.facebook.com/mayoryuripacumio/|Tanza, Cavite|
|https://www.facebook.com/bastatagaORANI/|Orani, Bataan|
|https://www.facebook.com/sanmateolgu/|San Mateo, Rizal|
|https://www.facebook.com/bacolodcitypio/|Bacolod City, Negros Oriental|
|https://www.facebook.com/SanIsidroNuevaEcijaOfficial/|San Isidro, Nueva Ecija|
|https://www.facebook.com/AndyTurtalGuevarra/|Bais City, Negros Oriental|
|https://www.facebook.com/IIPESO/|Calamba City, Laguna|
|https://www.facebook.com/CotabatoCityLGU/|Cotabato City|
|https://www.facebook.com/LGU.CatarmanNS/|Catarman, Northern Samar|
|https://www.facebook.com/CityofCebuOfficial/|Cebu City, Cebu|
|https://www.facebook.com/MDRM2016/|Floridablanca, Pampanga|
|https://www.facebook.com/PGBulacan/|Bulacan|
|to be filled/NA|Tayasan, Negros Oriental|
|https://www.facebook.com/SilangSB/|Silang, Cavite|
|https://www.facebook.com/tarlac.cio/|Tarlac City|
|https://www.facebook.com/zambocitygovt/|Zamboanga City, Zamboanga Del Sur|
|https://www.facebook.com/cityinformationoffice/|Tuguegarao City, Cagayan|
|https://www.facebook.com/guimbal.iloilo/|Guimbal, Iloilo|
|to be filled/NA|Pantukan, Compostela Valley|
|https://www.facebook.com/PGBulacan/|Malolos City, Bulacan|
|https://www.facebook.com/CITYINFORMATIONANDCOMMUNITYRELATIONSOFFICE/|Meycauayan, Bulacan|
|https://www.facebook.com/isangPateros/|Pateros|
|to be filled/NA|Masiu, Lanao Del Sur|
|https://www.facebook.com/PoracPublicInformationOffice/|Porac, Pampanga|
|https://www.facebook.com/gocavite/|Rosario, Cavite|
|https://www.facebook.com/roxascitycomgroup/|Roxas City, Capiz|
|https://www.facebook.com/cio.puertoprincesa/|Puerto Princesa, Palawan|
|https://www.facebook.com/CSFP.CIO/|San Fernando, Pampanga|
|https://www.facebook.com/CityofSanPedroOfficial/|San Pedro City, Laguna|
|https://www.facebook.com/Bayan-ng-Montalban-615973988911604/|Rodriguez, Rizal|
|https://www.facebook.com/lumban.laguna.3|Lumban, Laguna|
|https://www.facebook.com/CDOinfonet/|Cagayan De Oro, Misamis Oriental|
|https://www.facebook.com/cesarynares/|Binangonan, Rizal|
|to be filled/NA|Barotac Nuevo, Iloilo|
|https://www.facebook.com/abantegattaran/|Gattara, Cagayan|
|https://www.facebook.com/CityofImus/|Imus, Cavite|
|https://www.facebook.com/tuaowest.rhu|Tuao, Cagayan|
|https://www.facebook.com/municipalityoflambayong/|Lambayong, Sultan Kudarat|
|https://www.facebook.com/baliwag3006/|Baliwag, Bulacan|
|https://www.facebook.com/ciotanauan/|Tanuan City, Batangas|
|https://www.facebook.com/CITOCabanatuan/|Cabanatuan City, Batangas|
|https://www.facebook.com/iloilocitygov/|Iloilo City, Iloilo|
|https://www.facebook.com/navotenoako/|Navotas City|

List Source (https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103623/philippines-coronavirus-covid-19-cases-by-residence/)
I copied the Table code from Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 23-Mar-2020] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0) Huge help on making the list more presentable.

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Navotas City


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on March 30, 2020, 07:35:31 AM
Source:Grabbed from Facebook link below

Pag ganito yung mababasa mo on social media manlulumo ka na lang sa pagkaawa Lalaking gustong magpakamatay dahil wala ng mapakain sa pamilya (https://www.facebook.com/110290373697714/posts/254923815901035/) Diba ang dahilan nito ay ang kawalan ng trabaho dahil sa locked down. Hindi na siya nakapagisip ng maayos dahil sa hirap ng buhay, pero hindi siya katulad ng iba na makakaisip ng masama na makakaapekto sa ibang tao.


Source:From Facebook

Nasan na yung sinasabing 5k Financial Assistance, ng DOLE na sanay makakatulong sa mga ganitong tao. The effects of locked down clearly reduced the chances of everyone to raise money for daily living especially yung mga walang wala talaga. Nakakalungkot and nakakatakot, kasi pag tumagal pa ito ( possibleng extended naman talaga) eh hindi lang yan ang makikita natin sa news kundi puro holdapan at nakawan sa mga grocery or tindahan, at sa mga may kaya na tao.

May mga nakakaalam ba or nakakuha na ng claim na ito mula sa DOLE? Sana'y ma ishare ninyo kung may pinakamabilis na paraan aside sa guidelines since hindi lahat ng empleyado ay may oras para gawin ang mga requirements na dapat gawin bago makakuha.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 30, 2020, 07:54:55 AM
Sharing some relevant news I've gathered

  • I've mentioned about the Japanese anti-flu drug Avigan before and DOH is now looking into it - DOH exec: Japanese anti-flu drug ‘very promising’ treatment for COVID-19 patients (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/731854/doh-exec-japanese-anti-flu-drug-very-promising-treatment-for-covid-19-patients/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook)
  • May kumakalat sa social media about Prodex-B as an anti-viral treatment for COVID-19, wala daw itong basehan ayon sa FDA- Baseless claims of Prodex-B as anti-viral treatment for COVID-19 (https://www.fda.gov.ph/fda-advisory-no-2020-452-baseless-claims-of-prodex-b-as-anti-viral-treatment-for-covid-19/)
  • Nabanggit ko na din about FDA approving rapid test kits as early as Monday (today) - FDA approves 5 rapid test kits for COVID-19, but requires confirmatory test for samples (https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/30/FDA-rapid-test-kits.html)
  • Much needed para sa mga healthworkers - 1 million PPE sets worth P1.8B due for delivery to DOH for distribution to health workers (https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/30/1-million-ppe-sets-worth-p1-8b-due-for-delivery-to-doh-for-distribution-to-health-workers/)



COVID-19 by the numbers (as of 00:22 GMT, March 30, 2020):

ASEAN countries (https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/posts/3403598379700808)
TOP 5 Worldwide (https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/posts/3403606513033328)
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May mga nakakaalam ba or nakakuha na ng claim na ito mula sa DOLE? Sana'y ma ishare ninyo kung may pinakamabilis na paraan aside sa guidelines since hindi lahat ng empleyado ay may oras para gawin ang mga requirements na dapat gawin bago makakuha.
Eto ang alam ko, employer ng isang private company na nagpatupad ng FWAs temporary closure dahil sa COVID-19 ang mag-apply sa DOLE at maglalakad lahat ng mga requirements. If approved, employers ang mag-distribute sa mga ATMs ng mga empleyado nila. Kung sakaling walang ATM, sa mga remittance centers naman. Basahin ang buong requirements https://governmentph.com/dole-financial-assistance/

Employees should contact their employers for updates too.



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Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 30, 2020, 05:50:31 PM
PRRD addressed the nation one week after he signed the Bayanihan to Heal As One Act in this video (https://www.facebook.com/pcoogov/videos/588950161699094/)

Some takeaways:
  • Php 200 Bilion budget for the low income households. Hindi kasama dito yung mga nakakaangat na sa buhay.
  • Recovery packages will soon be rolled out para tulungan ang mga SMEs na tinamaan din ng matindi.
  • It's rare to hear the old man extend his gratitude to the rich owners of the companies he goes after. To be fair to them, malaki nga naitutulong nila during this crisis.

Asahan natin na lalabas ang mga mas concrete at detalyadong plano sa susunod na mga oras/araw.






Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: bisdak40 on March 30, 2020, 09:24:00 PM

Ours has been given one day before the enhance community quarantine take effect, our barangay officials give it house to house. I heard on other barangays in our city that some of the residents have to go to the barangay hall to get their HQP which for me is very risky of contamination of the disease and physical distancing rule is violated.

Is the HQP ^^ yours?

edit:

I've just read above that you are moving to Lapu-lapu City, meaning that HQP is yours. Welcome to LLC my friend. I can say that this place is not as risky as New York for now but still it's safe if we just stay at home.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Vaculin on March 30, 2020, 11:25:06 PM
Have you guys got your quarantine passes yet? In case you didn't know, they are being distributed to places under lockdown by barangay officials.
I have secured a home quarantine pass already, in our Barangay, only 1 pass per household also and I think this is a uniform implementation.
According to our Barangay Captain, we can use this pass to other municipalities or cities but I doubt they'll allow us to enter, the best thing our municipality would do now is just to secure the needs of the people so if this lock down will continue longer, we can have our needs within the municipality only.

And also, there was no social distancing anymore when buying goods in a grocery as people are rushing for their needs.

There's no confirm cases in our municipality yet but I am still afraid of the risk.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: mk4 on March 31, 2020, 12:53:46 AM
*snip*

Quarantine passes are currently suspended from where I'm currently from; and I really don't blame the local government. In a nearby city, quarantine pass queues are PACKED with people. It pretty much defeats the purpose of social distancing. Hopefully other cities are dealing with the queues a lot better. Manual delivery of quarantine passes to houses are probably out of the equation as it would require a good amount of manpower.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 31, 2020, 12:54:13 AM
Have you guys got your quarantine passes yet? In case you didn't know, they are being distributed to places under lockdown by barangay officials.
I have secured a home quarantine pass already, in our Barangay, only 1 pass per household also and I think this is a uniform implementation.
According to our Barangay Captain, we can use this pass to other municipalities or cities but I doubt they'll allow us to enter, the best thing our municipality would do now is just to secure the needs of the people so if this lock down will continue longer, we can have our needs within the municipality only.

And also, there was no social distancing anymore when buying goods in a grocery as people are rushing for their needs.

There's no confirm cases in our municipality yet but I am still afraid of the risk.
More like a same scenario here in our vicinity and people seems lax because no case has been announced yet. I guess hindi dapat ganito kasi yung symptoms ng kung sino mang nahawaan na only starts week/s after they've been exposed with positive carrying the said virus. Hoping lang talaga na the government will be stricter on implementing the ECQ and people realized that this isn't just a case to deny for.

Just because the cases are mostly on those regions said by nutildah that doesn't mean other places will just be lax on the implementation. I guess yung mga tao soon lang magiging serious sa sitwasyon if they found out there has been case/s na ibabalita which is not good to see because pwedeng kumalat na yan wala pa yung results.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Maus0728 on March 31, 2020, 02:37:03 AM
[REVISED] Full Transcript of Nation Address of President Rodrigo Roa Duterte on COVID-19 Pandemic
Presidential Communications Operations Office Presidential News Desk

NATION ADDRESS OF PRESIDENT RODRIGO ROA DUTERTE ON CORONAVIRUS DISEASE 2019 (COVID-19) PANDEMIC
[Malacañan Palace, Manila | 30 March 2020]

Quote from: PRRD
Sa ikatlong linggo sa ating pakigbisog against a formidable enemy.

As always, I give my sincerest gratitude to all those who are fighting in the frontlines: Our doctors, nurses, allied health professionals, police, soldiers, civil and servants everyone performing essential services in the private sector. I assure you that your efforts will be rewarded.
Your heroism will not be forgotten.

Saludo kami sa inyo.

Let me thank the LGUs who are doing their best to contain the spread of the virus in your localities. I see that you are employing innovative programs and initiatives to address the needs of your constituents.

'Yan ang dapat. Tulungan.

Rest assured that the national government is behind you as we safeguard the welfare of our people in your communities.

I issued an order through Executive Secretary Medialdea clearly laying down the of each responsibilities department in implementing the Bayanihan to Heal as One Act. I have given them their marching orders, emphasizing the need for sufficient authority, so that they do not have to go back to me and ask for clearance for each and every action they have to take. All of the details of our actions will be part of my report, which will be submitted to Congress pursuant to Bayanihan Act.

There are now only two powers in the law that I reserved strictly for myself: One is the power to direct the operation of private establishments. The other is the power to require businesses to prioritize contracts for materials and services necessary for the crisis. I will exercise these powers only when absolutely necessary.

The government is now taking action and undertaking several key measures to overcome and recover from the effects of this pandemic. These measures have three main priorities : (1) Providing Emergency Assistance to Affected Sectors, (2) Facilities [and] Resources for Securing the Health Sector and (3) Performing Fiscal and Monetary Actions for the Economy.

FIRST: The government is now launching the largest and widest social protection program in our country's history pinakamalaki itong tulong na ibibigay ng gobyerno sa mamamayan sa history natin, eh ngayon lang tayo nagkaroon ng problemang ganito - to make up for the loss of economic opportunities due to the quarantine measures in place for COVID-19.

We have allotted 200 billion pesos for low- income households who are badly affected by the current crisis. Sila ang nasa informal sector and those who live day-to-day on subsistence wages or "no-work, no-pay" arrangements. Beneficiary-households will receive emergency support for two months based on the regional minimum wage

However, I still count on everyone to also look out after their fellowmen --- their countrymen. To those who have more in life, I implore you to share in the cost of taking care of the less fortunate and keeping society our intact. They have also contributed to our prosperity in one way or [another]. So, let us support them in this crisis.

Let it be said that, in the hour of our country's greatest need, we all looked out for and helped each other.

Buksan natin ang ating puso sa nangangailangan.

I also appeal to the private sector to contribute, in any way you can, in dealing with this national emergency. We implore employers to do their part in protecting the welfare of the millions of Filipino households that belong to the formal sector and depend on their employers for continuous livelihood.

For those who have silently helped, away from the cameras, maraming salamat po.

The government will provide a recovery and package—especially to micro, small, medium enterprises—to help deal with the economic effects of this pandemic. My economic team is already creating the guidelines for this as I speak.

To our farmers and our fisherfolk: We have not forgotten and is government you now employing quick response measures to help you during the crisis as well as ensure food productivity, availability, and sufficiency during the period of the pandemic.

Nandito ang gobyerno para sa inyo.

The government is also ensuring the unhampered flow of cargo and their workers to maintain the continuous and steady supply of food, goods and other essential supplies and items. A price freeze on commodities is already in effect and measures to curtail hoarding and profiteering are also in place.

Uulitin ko hindi ito panahon para kumita. Hindi ito panahon ng pagsasamantala.

Food packs and essential non-food items are also being distributed [to] LGUs in Metro Manila and the rest of Luzon. Contaminated areas in the and Mindanao Visayas are receiving similar assistance. More will be given to augment the requirements of LGUs in the coming days as we repackage the items in our stockpiles.

Gagawin ko lahat para walang magutom.

SECOND: We are marshalling and deploying the resources of government to provide our frontline health workers with everything they require so they can save as many lives as possible.

We are now procuring medical supplies, devices and personal protective equipment.

About 1 million medical protective items are being acquired right now, with the government and the private sector working together to purchase or produce the necessary quantities.

We are also ramping up our capacity to test more broadly to take a fuller and more accurate picture of the spread of COVID-19 in the country. We will also build, operate and accredit more medical facilities and laboratories in the coming weeks.

The outpouring of donations and support from the businesses, organizations, foreign governments and private individuals over the past few weeks have also been overwhelming. I therefore like or would like to acknowledge the following for their help in this crisis:

• The Government of China
• The Government of Singapore
• The NGCP led by Bigboy Sy and Robert Coyuito
• Ramon Ang
• Enrique Razon
• Manny Pangilinan
• Lucio Tan and Michael Tan
• Simeon Heo of [Shopee] Philippines
• Century Peak Corporation
• [Joji] Gotianun-Yap
• Udenna Foundation of Dennis Uy
• Also, Robert Seng
• Archie Po, 'yung who suffered a loss --- buhay niya, empleyado niya, pati 'yung eroplano nag- crash on an evacuation mission to Japan. My condolences to the families and I assure you na tutulong kami sa anumang paraan. Do not be discouraged.
• PAGCOR headed by Andrea Domingo
• The World Health Organization
• Mammoth Foundation China 
• Jack Ma
• Ciriaco Lopez
• Global Fund
•[Americares] Foundation
• UNFPA
• Aboitiz Foundation D&L Corporation 
• Golden Topper
• Landers Superstore
• Unilab Foundation
• Alliance Global
• Philippine Disaster Resilience Foundation
• Temasek Foundation, as well as the countless others who have sent their assistance in our time of need.

On behalf of the Filipino people, I thank you [for your] compassion and your generosity, and my personal gratitude.

Mahal kong mga kababayang Pilipino, nasa ikatlong linggo na tayo sa ating crisis na hinaharap. At tayo'y hirap sa pera, sa medical supplies, sa lahat. Eh dati ho naman talagang kulang ang pera natin at kulang ang medical supplies.

At hindi lang ho tayo, pati 'yung Amerika ganun rin kasi hindi natin akalain buong mundo na ganun kabilis dalawang araw lang, after receiving the advice from China, the crisis was already here: COVID-19.

Ang masasabi ko lang, meron tayong 200 billion na ibinigay sa akin ng Kongreso para gastusin ko. Iyon naman ho ang ginagamit kong pakalat ngayon na pera para mabigyan ang lahat. Galing doon sa walang trabaho, may trabaho, kalahating trabaho. Ang mga mayaman, hindi na kasali.

Ako nama'y umaasa na itong ating mga trabahante na Pilipino ay gawin nila ang lahat para sa kapakanan ng ating bayan. At ang kami dito, gawain ko ang buong kaya kong gawin para ho sa inyo.

Kaya nga hindi ako nakalabas eh ilang araw, dalawang araw. Pero usually in times of crisis ho kailangan ang isang trabahante ng gobyerno na binigyan ho ng trabaho para humarap sa inyo, makipag-usap sa inyo.

Ito ho ang garantiya ko: Ginagawa namin ang lahat ng makakaya namin. May mga doktor na, mga nurses, attendants, namatay. Sila yung nasawi ang buhay para lang makatulong sa kapwa. Napakaswerte nila. Namatay sila para sa bayan. Iyon ang dapat ang rason na bakit tayo mamatay.

Huwag tayong mamatay sa ibang rason, nasagasaan ka lang at wala ka namang ginawa. It would be an honor to die for your country, I assure you.

At ako naman ho, ang pilosopiya ko ho ganito, sa nagtatrabaho, kung protected ka lang, eh make yourself fully covered, protected para hindi walang madisgrasya. Pero ang doktrina ko sa buhay is ako, si Rodrigo Duterte, kung panahon ko na, panahon ko na.

So ganon na lang ang pagtingin ko kasi wala man rin akong magawa. Pumupunta ako doon sa mga lugar na may giyera, pumupunta ako doon sa may lugar na may pumuputok 'yung bomba, pumu --- pumupunta ako doon sa likod ng mga sundalo at nagrarakrakan sila ng...

Eh hindi ko masabi kung kailan ako, kaya sabi ko na lang, "Diyos ko, 'pag panahon ko na, kunin mo na ako. Huwag kang mag-atubili. Bahala ka na."

So sa mga kababayan ko, hindi ko naman sinasabi na sundin ninyo ang aking pilosopiya. But somehow let the thought comfort you that I really worry about you, that I worry that you will not be able to reach an old age with your children and grandchildren.

Kasi ako nandiyan na eh. Patapos na ako, kaya ko masabi 'yan. So trabaho lang tayo, ang mga supplies nandiyan na, at makabili na tayo ng kailangan ninyo.

Ngayon, sa mga tao na binigyan ng people tasked of distributing the money, distributing the food, distributing the relief goods, kindly do it. I use the word "to a T". Kung hindi ninyo naintindihan 'yan, mag-research kayo.

Pero talagang 'pag nagkamali kayo dito, hindi ko kayo palusutin. I will see to it even tomorrow, if I discover some embezzlements, some hoarding there, at dina-divert 'yung pagkain sa mga tao na dapat hindi sa kanila, you better think.

I am not a cruel man. Pero kung may report ang pulis, I will order your detention hanggang matapos itong COVID-19.

Sabi ko huwag ngayon. Huwag na huwag kayong mandaya, mangurakot at taguin 'yung mga pagkain at iyung iba hindi bigyan kasi... You know, people sometimes think that they own whatever they receive from government. This is not yours, neither is it mine.

Pero kung mamulitika ka tapos mabalitaan ko na 'yan ang nagawa mo, I will suspend you ora mismo. And for those who are really absconding the money, I will detain you, I said; and maybe I will release you pagkatapos ng COVID.

Hindi ako nananakot. Nagpapasalamat ako sa buong --- lahat ng ating mga doktor, who are honest, who --- talagang nagta-trabaho. Sa inyo po, personal kong gratitude na hindi mabayaran ng pera. Nagpapasalamat rin ang taong bayang Pilipino. Salamat po at ako'y regularly mag --- makipag-usap sa inyo until this crisis is over.

Huwag kayong matakot ngayon. Huwag na huwag kayong matakot kasi sabi ko may pera ako at kung meron man ang palpak-palpak diyan kaunti, ayusin namin 'yan. Ayusin ni Lorenzana 'yan, the implementor, pati sa DILG, at itong si Galvez ho. Puro military na 'yan sila.

At as a matter of fact ganito, lahat ng kontribusyon, lahat, ibigay mo doon sa opisina na set up ng Task Force. At may --- kung may releases man, lahat, accounted 'yan tapos then there's another audit in the integrity of the procedure.

'Yan lang po. Nagpapasalamat ako sa lahat ng trabahante ng gobyernong nandiyan. At ako naman po'y at the same time nagbibigay ng warning: Totohanan ko talaga kayo.

Sa crisis tapos gawin mo pa 'yang... Dapat ka talagang ikulong. Hindi kita i-release at huwag kang.. Hindi ako maniwala ng kaso-kaso. Hayaan mo magpapa-preso ako balang araw kung mali ang sinabi ko at ginawa ko.

Sa inyong mga Pilipino, mga kababayan kababayan, mahal ko, kamong mga Bisaya, sunod lang mo. Sumunod lang kayo at walang problema.

Daghang salamat.

Well, President Rodrigo Duterte promises that he will be announcing his address to the nation yesterday afternoon at exactly 4pm but he failed comply, he was late for about 7 hours and aired around 11 PM yesterday night. This might give a more negative image for the government simply because they are not following a simple notice.

Unfortunately, I didn't find any tape live version of the transcript in youtube for us to be able to watch.

Source: https://twitter.com/Joseph_Morong?s=09


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Crypto-DesignService on March 31, 2020, 03:51:12 AM
Well, President Rodrigo Duterte promises that he will be announcing his address to the nation yesterday afternoon at exactly 4pm but he failed comply, he was late for about 7 hours and aired around 11 PM yesterday night. This might give a more negative image for the government simply because they are not following a simple notice.

Unfortunately, I didn't find any tape live version of the transcript in youtube for us to be able to watch.

Source: https://twitter.com/Joseph_Morong?s=09
Here's a replay of the announcement.
https://www.facebook.com/310621318958658/videos/228358601863597/


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 31, 2020, 03:38:08 PM
PRRD addressed the nation one week after he signed the Bayanihan to Heal As One Act in this video (https://www.facebook.com/pcoogov/videos/588950161699094/)

Some takeaways:
  • Php 200 Bilion budget for the low income households. Hindi kasama dito yung mga nakakaangat na sa buhay.
  • Recovery packages will soon be rolled out para tulungan ang mga SMEs na tinamaan din ng matindi.
  • It's rare to hear the old man extend his gratitude to the rich owners of the companies he goes after. To be fair to them, malaki nga naitutulong nila during this crisis.
~

Follow up on this, eto yung mga target beneficiaries ng 200 Billion pesos social amelioration program (see image). Php5K-8K ang maibibigay sa low-income households sa loob ng dalawang buwan in the form of cash and food items (update Apr. 2, 2020 - PRRD already approved na cash na ang ibibigay accdg. to Sec. Nograles from his press briefing (https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/videos/542912959961123/) earlier) . Ang rate ay naka-base sa minimum daily wage per region.

Kasama na din diyan yung mga beneficiaries ng 4Ps. Bale dagdagan na lang yung Php2,125 na binibigay sa kanila ng DSWD hanggang umabot sa 5K-8K ang matanggap nila.

Siguro ang next na tanong ay kung paano mag-claim? Kakailanganin niyo ng Social Amelioration Card (SAC) na manggagaling sa inyong LGU o baranggay. Naatasan din sila na magbigay ng master list ng qualified beneficiaries sa DILG. Kung sa tingin ninyo ay qualified kayo, magandang makipag-ugnayan kayo sa inyong baranggay at mabigyan ng SAC form.

References:
  • https://www.dof.gov.ph/dof-says-covid-19-emergency-subsidy-largest-social-protection-program-in-phl-history/
  • https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/03/31/2004508/duterte-unveils-p200-billion-aid-low-income-families-affected-quarantine
  • https://ptvnews.ph/dilg-to-lgus-barangays-move-fast-to-come-up-with-master-list-of-target-beneficiaries-of-social-amelioration-program-vs-covid-19/

https://scontent.fmnl8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/91178773_1718071768346497_2930266447290564608_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_eui2=AeG9sU8-gxmnmm2KgilfK6sTglsgnHzEpW_nTv7e1LTX5RKePDAIadIoMeybBb55Xx3zNkvUW0F6eLB0-FQK1ecFZRxIFn6om9Xr6zjOIqpynQ&_nc_oc=AQkyFE1qgGHyA3cGnzk49Wi1s-RjuqDiMoHim5lhI7l4-tvWEa9ZGLcA4nnkOtAC6yo&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl8-1.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=285b0605514e83a1db9d886baf1bd947&oe=5EA71AAB




Paalala lamang na iba dito yung financial assistance na ibibigay ng DOLE para sa mga empleyado na nabawasan ng mga sahod dahil sa COVID-19. Basahin ng mabuti - https://governmentph.com/dole-financial-assistance/


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 01, 2020, 09:34:11 AM

Follow up on this, eto yung mga target beneficiaries ng 200 Billion pesos social amelioration program (see image). Php5K-8K ang maibibigay sa low-income households sa loob ng dalawang buwan in the form of cash and food items. Ang rate ay naka-base sa minimum daily wage per region.

Napakagulo ng sistema ng proseso pagkuha ng tulong na ito. Dami kong nababasa na reklamo tungkol dito. 200billion fund is huge help pero sana dumating talaga sa mga kababayan natin.

Ang mga tanong ko dito na hindi malinaw ay ang mga sumusunod na tingin ko dapat bigyan nila ng klaro.

  • Sa isang pamilya ba iisa lang ang maaari makatanggap ng halagang 5k to 8k? Since sa loob ng isang bahay ay maaaring mayroon mga individual na pasok sa requirement
  • Yung pag claim ng fund, masyado siyang vague, dahil ang nababasa ko ay thru bank account, ang pagpapadala sa mga approved nito, yung karamihan sa mga informal settlers, hindi gumagamit ng mga ganyan, so dapat ipadala nila mismo ito sa mga mabibigyan
  • Ang pinakaimportante, bakit may discrimination na dapat yung mahihirap lang ang makakatanggap or ipapriority? Masyadong unfair ito, dahil kahit yung mga may work or may kaya na tao apektado din at namomroblema din dahil sa issue. Yes priority ang mahihirap at need ng tulong pero, the fact na yung mga nagtatrabaho ay mga nagbabayad ng buwis, ay wala manlamg maramdaman sa ating gobyerno

I am entitled and pasok sa requirement since I am an "OFW in distress" and I can provide yung requirements so easily pero ang masasabi ko lang di na ako aasa pa na darating at makakasama sa list provided the conditions that Ive stated above. Like ruling on how many per househould, which obviously they will not grant.

So sad pero nakikita ko na ganito lang ang mangyayari sa SAC program na yan.

Source: Facebook


Credits to the one who made this art captured on FB.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on April 01, 2020, 04:20:01 PM
Napakagulo ng sistema ng proseso pagkuha ng tulong na ito. Dami kong nababasa na reklamo tungkol dito. 200billion fund is huge help pero sana dumating talaga sa mga kababayan natin.
I suggest na focus ka lang magbasa sa mga facts at huwag paapekto sa mga reklamo dahil Hindi mo din naman alam kung sinunod nila ng tama yung proseso.   

Ang mga tanong ko dito na hindi malinaw ay ang mga sumusunod na tingin ko dapat bigyan nila ng klaro.

  • Sa isang pamilya ba iisa lang ang maaari makatanggap ng halagang 5k to 8k? Since sa loob ng isang bahay ay maaaring mayroon mga individual na pasok sa requirement
  • Yung pag claim ng fund, masyado siyang vague, dahil ang nababasa ko ay thru bank account, ang pagpapadala sa mga approved nito, yung karamihan sa mga informal settlers, hindi gumagamit ng mga ganyan, so dapat ipadala nila mismo ito sa mga mabibigyan
  • Ang pinakaimportante, bakit may discrimination na dapat yung mahihirap lang ang makakatanggap or ipapriority? Masyadong unfair ito, dahil kahit yung mga may work or may kaya na tao apektado din at namomroblema din dahil sa issue. Yes priority ang mahihirap at need ng tulong pero, the fact na yung mga nagtatrabaho ay mga nagbabayad ng buwis, ay wala manlamg maramdaman sa ating gobyerno
1. Per household so yeah per family yan. Pero not necessarily per bahay ang bigayan dahil pwedeng dalawa o mahigit na pamilya ang nakatira sa isang bahay.
2. Hindi naman siya vague sa tingin ko. Alam naman ng gobyerno na marami pa ang mga unbanked kaya may option for money remittance, over the counter, cash cards, at iba pa. Hindi kasi specific tanong mo kaya general din sagot ko pero basahin mo mismo yung memorandum para mas maintindihan

JOINT MEMORANDUM CIRCULAR NO. 1 SERIES OF 2020 (https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/downloads/2020/03mar/20200328-JOINT-MEMORANDUM-CIRCULAR-NO-1-S-2020.pdf)

3. Hindi ko nakikitang diskriminasyon o unfair yan. Natural lang na sila ang priority dahil sila ang mas vulnerable lalo na ngayon. Mas malaking problema kasi ang haharapin ng Gobyerno kapag hindi sila ang inuna. Pwede sila mag-umpisa ng riot sa buong bansa kapag kumalam na sikmura ng mga yan lalo (tandaan na sila mas nakararami). Kapag ganun nangyari, baliwala na ang efforts ng gobyerno para ma-contain ang COVID-19.

Sa mga empleyado, Kung sinundan mo yung mga naunang announcement ng Pangulo, he requested sa mga private companies na tumulong muna. Isa sa mga mungkahi niya dati ay yung pag-release ng maagang 13th month sa mga empleyado (pro-rated) at sa mga napagtanungan kong kakilala, binigay naman ng mga employers ito. Andyan din yung DOLE financial assistance.

May karapatan din naman magreklamo ang mga working class na nagbabayad ng kanila mga income taxes at hindi naman masisi.

I am entitled and pasok sa requirement since I am an "OFW in distress" and I can provide yung requirements so easily pero ang masasabi ko lang di na ako aasa pa na darating at makakasama sa list provided the conditions that Ive stated above. Like ruling on how many per househould, which obviously they will not grant.

So sad pero nakikita ko na ganito lang ang mangyayari sa SAC program na yan.
Nasa sa'yo yan.

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Ewan ko kung ano talaga iparating na mensahe ng gumawa nyan pero I can look at the flow of the Php200 Billion fund from the National Government this way:

National Government > 17 Regions > 81 Provinces > 144 Cities/1,490 Municipalities > 42,208 Baranggays (https://www.in-philippines.com/number-of-regions-provinces-cities-municipalities-and-barangays/) > 18 million Households

200 Billion will be distributed to 18 million households for two months ~ 5,555 per household on average



Stick to facts and be informed by following updates from the Government/LGUs mismo. Mataas ang mga emosyon natin ngayon pero kahit nasa panahon tayo ng cisis, ingat lang na hindi tayo maging biktima ng mga negative propaganda at mga disinformation. Mas lalo lang tayo ma-stress kapag ganyan. 

Please read the Joint Memorandum. Na-post ko na sa taas but in case you missed it:

SPECIAL GUIDELINES ON THE PROVISION OF SOCIAL AMELIORATION MEASURES BY THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL WELFARE AND DEVELOPMENT, DEPARTMENT OF LABOR AND EMPLOYMENT, DEPARTMENT OF TRADE AND INDUSTRY, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE, DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT, AND DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO THE MOST AFFECTED RESIDENTS OF THE AREAS UNDER ENHANCED COMMUNITY QUARANTINE (https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/downloads/2020/03mar/20200328-JOINT-MEMORANDUM-CIRCULAR-NO-1-S-2020.pdf)


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: danherbias07 on April 02, 2020, 03:21:08 AM
Ito yung dalawang madalas ko mabasa ngayon na ginagamit ng mga kalaban niya.
I put it in bold.

Quote from: PRRD
Ito ho ang garantiya ko: Ginagawa namin ang lahat ng makakaya namin. May mga doktor na, mga nurses, attendants, namatay. Sila yung nasawi ang buhay para lang makatulong sa kapwa. Napakaswerte nila. Namatay sila para sa bayan. Iyon ang dapat ang rason na bakit tayo mamatay.

Huwag tayong mamatay sa ibang rason, nasagasaan ka lang at wala ka namang ginawa. It would be an honor to die for your country, I assure you.

Quote from: PRRD
Huwag kayong matakot ngayon. Huwag na huwag kayong matakot kasi sabi ko may pera ako

Sobrang nakakalungkot na hangang ngayon hindi pa rin nila kilala ang Presidente. Ilang taon na.
Obvious naman na hirap pa rin siya magtagalog. But that doesn't bother me. Kung sa bisaya yan sigurado sapul na sapul yan sa tamang term na pagkakaintindi.
Pati sa krisis may namomolitika pa din.
Sobrang laki ng virus ng bansang ito kahit wala pa yung COVID. Mga kanser ng lipunan na pilit pababagsakin ang magandang pamahalaan para lamang makabalik sila sa pwesto at maghasik ng lagim ulit.

Inuulit ulit niya na magtulungan tayo pero yung mali pa rin ang makikita muna.
Totoo lang, si Duterte nagmulat sa akin na may gobyerno pala. Dati wala talaga ako pakialam kung sino man uupo diyan.
Hindi naman mawawala yung pagkakamali, pero hindi rin mawawala ang pagmamahal sa bayan at mga tao nito.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on April 03, 2020, 04:02:26 AM
IATF Launches RapidPass System for use in checkpoint (https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/03/iatf-launches-rapidpass-system-for-use-in-checkpoints/) para malimitahan yung contact between mga frontliners/others allowed to travel natin at mga taong nag-mamando sa mga checkpoints. Ayon sa virtual presser (https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/videos/153493102645182/) ni Sec. Nograles kanina, tested na nila ito sa field with the help of PNP/AFP at i-roll out na mamayang hapon (4 PM according to the developers Devcon Philippines (https://www.facebook.com/DevConPH/posts/10157358231973585)).

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Under the system, frontliners in the checkpoints will use a QR code scanner to scan the unique QR codes that will be given to qualified or authorized individuals or vehicles. They can immediately pass the checkpoints after their codes are scanned.

The individuals exempted from the quarantine restrictions can request for a QR code through the RapidPass.ph. Once the request is approved, a unique and secure QR code and control number will be granted to each authorized person or vehicle.

The said QR codes can either be printed and placed on their vehicles or just show the codes on their smartphones to the frontliners manning the checkpoints.

“Sa mga walang smartphone o printer, ipakita lamang po ang inyong control number sa ating mga nagtatao ng checkpoint kasama ang inyong valid ID (To those who do not have a smartphone or printer, you can show your control numbers to the one manning the checkpoint and present your valid ID),” Nograles said.



Government eyes Mass testing by April 14 (https://www.manilatimes.net/2020/04/03/second-headline/govt-to-start-covid-19-mass-testing-by-april-14-galvez/709264/) according to the chief implementer at the National Task Force on Covid-19, Carlito Galvez Jr. Ang focus muna ay lahat ng mga PUIs at PUMs. With more tests to be done, huwag na tayong magulat kung tataas pa lalo ang confirmed cases natin. On the bright side, mas mapapabilis na din ang pag-isolate at paggamot sa kanila.



We are less than two-weeks away sa ending ng ECQ pero sa tingin ko ma-extend pa ito ng at least two weeks.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on April 03, 2020, 09:25:34 AM
Well, nobody has brought up the reason why the Philippines is once again in the international news, so I thought I'd mention it, perhaps its easier for me to do so being the foreigner.
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Yeah, he instantly gets international media attention every time he says stuffs like that. That "shoot them dead" were mainly intended to the groups (leftist) who instigates riots, disturbs peace and order, and attacks medical & military personnel.



For those who have pending loans and worried about penalties for late payment, this might help
List of Banks That Extend Grace Period for Loan Payments Due to Coronavirus Outbreak (https://bitpinas.com/feature/list-banks-extend-grace-period-loan-payments-due-coronavirus-outbreak/#list_of_banks_with_extended_grace_period_for_loan_payments)

Tag-hirap talaga ngayon kaya baka may maloko ng mga text scams kaya ingat. SEC warning against PRESIDENT: RODRIGO DUTERTE CHARITY FOUNDATION with Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas “Handog ng Kabuhayan (http://www.sec.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/2020Advisory_PRESIDENT-RODRIGO-DUTERTE-CHARITY-FOUNDATION_20200403.pdf) May matatanggap na text message na panalo ka ng ganitong halaga.....pero baka singilin ka muna ng "fee" bago i-release yung napanalunan. Ang totoo, wala ka naman talaga napanalunan.



Nabanggit ko na dati tungkol kay Dr. Edsel Salvana na nagpapaliwanag tungkol sa testing sa COVID. Eto pa isa nyang post (https://www.facebook.com/edselmaurice.salvana/posts/10207397721056768)

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Understanding testing for COVID.

Warning, this WILL make your head hurt if you don’t have a science background. Heck it makes MY head hurt, but I cannot explain it any other way.

1. Mass testing is not testing everyone. It is “risk-based” testing. Basically, you test people in increasing circles of risk: test the PUI, then the close contacts, then the community. It is not a shotgun approach because no country can test every single citizen for COVID-19. So we need to figure out our priorities for testing, and WHAT TEST to use. You CAN’T test 100M people, but you can test the MOST AT RISK.

2. Understand the limitations of testing. No TEST is 100% accurate. There are trade-offs. The probability that a test is positive when the disease is REALLY present is called the SENSITIVITY. The probability that a negative test actually means the disease is REALLY NOT there is called the SPECIFICITY.

3. A good sensitivity means that a test is able to detect disease MOST of the time if it is PRESENT in a patient. Having a negative test when the disease is PRESENT is called a FALSE NEGATIVE. In other words, the test failed to detect a sick person.

4. A good specificity means that a test is NEGATIVE MOST of the time if there is NO DISEASE in a patient. Having a positive test when the disease is ABSENT is called a FALSE POSITIVE.

5. FALSE NEGATIVES are harmful because you say that someone is COVID-19-free when he actually has COVID-19 so that patient will be free to spread the disease.

6. FALSE POSITIVES are harmful because you will put a patient WITHOUT COVID-19 in the hospital, possibly with REAL COVID-19 patients such that the patient can get COVID, or be isolated needlessly.

7. So how good are the tests? There are two tests we can use for COVID-19 – RT-PCR and antibody tests.

8. RT-PCR is considered the best test for diagnosing ONGOING COVID-19 infection. PCR itself is very sensitive and specific, >90% for both. HOWEVER, the TYPE of specimen and the stage of disease (how many days with symptoms) can affect how often a test is positive. So for RT-PCR, using a nasopharyngeal swab in a patient WITH disease, the probability of getting a positive test is only 63%. So you will actually MISS 37% of cases. This is why we can do a REPEAT test after 48 hours in a patient who is getting sicker of what looks like COVID, but was NEGATIVE on the first test. The DANGER of RT-PCR is a FALSE NEGATIVE and you can end up clearing someone who actually has COVID-19. This can happen in UP TO 1/3 OF PATIENTS so its not a perfect test.

9. RT-PCR is also a highly technical process that not only involves having the right machine and kits, BUT also the proper SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE like a BSL2 laboratory. Many labs and hospitals HAVE RT-PCR machines but they do not have the biosafety infrastructure.

10. Antibody tests include PRNT (Plaque reduction neutralization test, the gold standard), ELISA (enzyme linked immunosorbent assay) and lateral flow IgM/IgG. The first two are LABORATORY based assays and the last is a point of care rapid diagnostic test (POC-RDT).

11. As much as we would like to use rapid lateral flow assays (IgM/IgG) because of convenience, NONE of the lateral flow assays have used the industry standard PRNT assay as a gold standard. In other words, we have NO IDEA how good they are despite their claimed sensitivity and specificity. The biggest danger is that because it takes 5 to 10 days to make IgM antibody, the test has a high FALSE NEGATIVE rate in those who just started having symptoms. And so you will get a FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY and end up passing the virus to other people and your family members.

12. The OTHER problem with the lateral flow IgM/IgG is that there are other HUMAN CORONAVIRUSES that cause the common cold, and some antibodies against these viruses may CROSS-REACT with the test, giving you a FALSE POSITIVE, which is bad for the reasons stated.

The BOTTOM LINE is NONE OF THESE TESTS ARE PERFECT. FAR from it. Tests INFORM your response, but they still need to be INTERPRETED in the right context.

To the lay person, they think that a positive is a positive, and a negative is a negative. To us clinicians and scientists, they come with HUGE caveats in management. There are times we WILL NOT believe a test result because it is NOT CONSISTENT with the patient’s clinical picture. If we let ourselves be mislead by a test result without USING OUR BRAIN, people will DIE. And this also holds for doing public health strategies and mass testing.

I do hope this gives the public a glimpse into how complex these decisions are, and that no matter how much the public clamors for something, it isn’t always in their BEST INTEREST to push the issue over what is SCIENTIFICALLY SOUND. Thank you.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 03, 2020, 10:07:22 AM
Nakakatuwa na nagumpisa na ang distribution ng SAC program sa Paranaque City. I expect na sa mga susunod na araw pati yung ibang mga City ay magdistribute na din, since sila ang kaunahan na naibalita means mabilis ang galaw ng Local government sa lugar na yan. Hula ko Quezon City ang kulelat sa ganito dahil medyo kakaiba attitude ng Mayor nila.

The government begins distributing P5,000 to P8,000 emergency subsidy to poor families affected by the #COVID19 crisis. Sec. Carlito Galvez, the chief implementer of the national action plan against COVID 19 led the distribution of subsidy in Parañaque City. | via @VivienneGulla


Latest Update as of 6:03pm Philippine time


Walang pinagbago ang rate ng death mas mataas pa din kaysa sa recovery. Hopefully after Mass tesying eh medyo dumikit na ang recovery percentage natin. Means mas lumalala lang kapag ganito.

Source:

https://www.coronatracker.com/country/philippines


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Rosilito on April 03, 2020, 03:09:03 PM
Nakakatuwa na nagumpisa na ang distribution ng SAC program sa Paranaque City. I expect na sa mga susunod na araw pati yung ibang mga City ay magdistribute na din, since sila ang kaunahan na naibalita means mabilis ang galaw ng Local government sa lugar na yan. Hula ko Quezon City ang kulelat sa ganito dahil medyo kakaiba attitude ng Mayor nila.

Gandang balita naman nito. Panigurado marami na rin ang susunod sa ginawa ng Paranaque, may nag lead na e. Madalas kasi pag wala mag i-initiate, walang progress na magaganap.

About naman sa QC sa tingin ko, not sure pa rin sa takbo ng utak nung Mayor doon pero sa tingin ko may magagawa na rin mabuti 'yon. Latest lang din, nag-apologize na rin si Mayor Joy sa mga ginawa niya. Here's the statement:

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First, I sincerely apologize for losing my composure on social media. You are correct that all the projects implemented by the QC government belong to you, as they are funded by your taxes," Belmonte said.

Second, I apologize for distributing health kits branded with 'Joy Para Sa Bayan'. While it is true that my team used leftover donated bags from the previous campaign and that they were the most readily available bags on the first day of ECQ, it is clear that this was highly insensitive given the circumstances. Inaamin ko po na nagkamali ako

Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/metro/732566/joy-belmonte-apologizes-for-losing-cool-on-social-media-joy-para-sa-bayan-bags/story/
 
Kung hindi pa siguro na criticize nang sagad baka hindi mag-reflect, may nagagawa rin pa lang mabuti 'yong pag alma sa mga ganitong bagay, lol. Pero we should be thankful na rin kasi at least aware na rin si Mayor Joy sa mistakes niya.

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Walang pinagbago ang rate ng death mas mataas pa din kaysa sa recovery. Hopefully after Mass tesying eh medyo dumikit na ang recovery percentage natin. Means mas lumalala lang kapag ganito.

One thing na sure dito, is dadami 'yong positive cases. Pero I doubt na didikit agad 'yong death case sa recovery case. Don't get me wrong, I hope as well na mas dumami total amount of recoveries pero given na ganito - we lack of facilities, and materials para ma-sustain 'yong mga patients, tas marami pa hindi nakikipagoperate talagang tatagal pa 'yong inaasahan natin na pagdami ng recoveries. Anyway, PRAY lang tayo giginhawa rin ang buhay.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: finaleshot2016 on April 03, 2020, 09:05:35 PM
April 4, 2020 UPDATE:

Umabot na sa 3,018 confirmed cases dito sa Pilipinas na may 136 deaths at 52 pa lang ang narerecover.




COVID-19 cases worldwide as of 6:00PM

Total worldwide cases: 1,091,047
Total worldwide deaths: 58,515
Total worldwide recoveries: 228,005

Ang mga tatlong bansa na may maraming cases:



Katanungang para sa lahat, Posible kayang ma-extend ang Enhanced Community Quarantine sa ating bansa?
Ilang araw nalang ay matatapos na ang ECQ sa ating bansa ngunit dumadami pa rin ang cases sa atin.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Mr. Big on April 03, 2020, 09:55:43 PM
MANILA, Philippines — President Rodrigo Duterte has fired Presidential Anti-Corruption Commission (PACC) commissioner Manuelito Luna for urging the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) to probe Vice President Leni Robredo for supposedly competing with or undermining the national government’s efforts to combat the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic.

In a surprise late night public address Friday, Duterte said Robredo is only doing the right thing when she called for support from private sectors to provide assistance to COVID-19 frontliners.

“Tama ‘yan maghingi ka ng tulong sa kapwa mo tao. Ngayon ito naman, may tao ako na abogado sa PACC, Commissioner Manuelito Luna gusto niya ipaimbestiga si Leni kung bakit nag-solicit. Anak ka ng… Nung narinig ko, sabi ko fire him,” Duterte said.

(That is just right, asking help from your fellow men. Now here it is, I have someone who is a lawyer at the PACC, Commissioner Manuelito Luna, who wants to place Leni under investigation for soliciting. You’re son of a… When I heard this, I told them to fire him.)

“As of this moment he’s no longer connected to the government,” he added.

In calling for an NBI investigation, Luna said Robredo’s actions “compete with,” or are “calculated to undermine” the national government’s efforts in this time of the public health emergency.

The Office of the Vice President (OVP) has so far raised at least P36 million for the procurement of PPEs for health workers. It also launched free shuttle service and free dormitories for health workers affected by the Luzon-wide quarantine.

However, another PACC commissioner, Greco Belgica, said that Luna’s statement is personal and does not reflect the anti-corruption body’s sentiment.

“It was a personal opinion and request made by one of the Commissioners of PACC that does not reflect the sentiments of the Commission,” Belgica said.

“This is not the time for politicking. We are not concerned with any personality.  Our main concern is to make sure all the needy Filipinos get all the help they need the President promised. Our concern is to end this COVID-19 virus,” he added.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1253628/duterte-fires-paccs-luna-for-urging-nbi-to-probe-robredo

Not a Yellow and Duterte supporter here, pero gusto ko lang sabihin, magaling ang ginawa ng Presidente... This is the right thing to do, di ito oras ng pulitika, let everyone do their part para maka survive tayo lahat...


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 04, 2020, 06:37:44 AM
Not a Yellow and Duterte supporter here, pero gusto ko lang sabihin, magaling ang ginawa ng Presidente... This is the right thing to do, di ito oras ng pulitika, let everyone do their part para maka survive tayo lahat...
I agree. What I dont like last night event is yung pagaddress ni Pres. Duterte, sa tagal ng ere mas nabigyan ng focus ang petty fights na dapat hindi niya na pinagsasabi especially on Diokno. He should just address the issue on a very brief thought then focus na sa on going plans and mga update sa accomplishment ng gobyerno.

I like how the Singapore address his nation with regards to their action plan agaisnt covid19. Singapore Prime Minister Press Con (https://youtu.be/adA6_PnIUuA) nakaka amaze siya kung paano niya iaddress ang kanilang ginagawa sa bansa nila. Hopefully ganito si Pres. Duterte.



On the other news

Aside sa mga tulong na donation test kit and medical ppe equipment. Magandang balita na may mga Chinese medical experts ang magpoprovide ng kanilang tulong sa pagpuksa ng covid cases. Nakita natin kung paano bumaba ang cases ng China, but setting off the issue about na ang China ang gumawa ng virus na ito. Eh mas mabuting focus tayo sa paghahanap ng pinakamagandang way para masupil ang covid kahit maraming galit sa China dahil dito, eh tanggapin natin ang tulong na ito. Sa panahon ngayon, walang maidusulot ang pamumulitaka kung makakatulong naman sa atin kalagayan ang kanilang pagsuporta.


MANILA – The Inter-Agency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases (IATF-EID) has allowed around 12 medical experts from China to assist the Philippines in addressing the coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) pandemic, Cabinet Secretary Karlo Nograles said on Saturday.

“The IATF authorizes the technical visit of 12 medical experts from the People’s Republic of China, who will assist government efforts in addressing the Covid-19 situation in the Philippines,” Nograles, spokesperson of IATF-EID, said in a virtual press conference aired on state-run PTV-4.

Nograles said the IATF-EID’s approval is still subject to ratification by the Office of the President.

The Chinese Embassy in Manila announced Thursday that a team of Chinese medical who will help the Philippines in its fight against Covid-19 is set to arrive in Manila on Sunday, April 5.

The team, composed of 12 top Chinese doctors and nurses, has expertise in several fields like critical care medicine, respiratory infection disease control and prevention, and traditional Chinese medicine, the embassy said in a statement.

Chinese Ambassador Huang Xilian on Monday said the main task of the medical experts is to provide technical advice on epidemic prevention and share medical treatment experience.

Source:

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1098825




Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on April 04, 2020, 07:53:28 AM
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Not a Yellow and Duterte supporter here, pero gusto ko lang sabihin, magaling ang ginawa ng Presidente... This is the right thing to do, di ito oras ng pulitika, let everyone do their part para maka survive tayo lahat...
Yup! Something tells me that the statement from that (fired) PACC Commissioner is well timed para magalit ang tao sa Gobyerno. I read that he was the same lawyer that filed a disqualification case against then Presidential candidate Rodrigo Duterte.

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What I dont like last night event is yung pagaddress ni Pres. Duterte, sa tagal ng ere mas nabigyan ng focus ang petty fights na dapat hindi niya na pinagsasabi especially on Diokno. He should just address the issue on a very brief thought then focus na sa on going plans and mga update sa accomplishment ng gobyerno.
Tingin ko hindi petty fight yun. Diokno has been encouraging the public to go on the streets since the quarantine at hindi daw sila pwedeng hulihin. Maliban sa joke sa ngipin, tama lang yung pag-address niya sa mga disinformation ni Diokno.

The purpose nung live conference niya kahapon is mainly to confront the fake news/information propagated ng mga nananamantalang politicians at yung pag-clarify at lecture niya tungkol sa "shoot them dead" statement the other night. Importante yun para malinawan lalo ang publiko at sumunod sa protocols ng gobyerno para hindi na lumala pa ang pagkalat ng COVID-19. Meron siyang team to talk about the plans and updates at araw-araw naman binibigay yan sa mga virtual press conference ng iba't ibang ahensya.



Nabasa ko post (https://www.facebook.com/DrTonyLeachon/posts/1599953846846932) ng isa sa mga special adviser ng National Task Force for COVID-19, Dr. Anthony Leachon

The lockdown is working and helping in flattening the curve and buy the government more time to fight the virus.

Projected cases before and after lockdown/quarantine
https://scontent-frt3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/91623204_1599953490180301_7110971773377576960_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_eui2=AeH-rovNoIi3WdWntophSzZRKDe6j827vegoN7qPzbu96DthXLJmDrOKcHmkOi7Vq5o&_nc_oc=AQlcWW4qLl3stpxEBMRoO-S-zUuBUanOsrXU7fXTIq_mxCZ77YWQ4QXO500lND8KkSk&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-2.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=1ccf74e175460df78907ee8dca56a99c&oe=5EAE3B3A

The aim now is to further flatten the curve para hindi na madagdagan pa ang hirap ng ating mga frontliners lalo na mga health workers. We can do our part by wearing face masks lalo na kapag lalabas. Check out the countries who implemented universal masking and those who did not:
https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/91955219_1599953510180299_3625337664980385792_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_eui2=AeFmYbnO6C-j701rro0tOt96B9n6dlGKCwwH2fp2UYoLDFd-0DrrYXSzvyfS3OgpOGQ&_nc_oc=AQl5le0ewECKpAQRttno8c7BNOs03xCFGcwn52DjyeTPh5U8wxe9aYfisWRpUnWFRDc&_nc_ht=scontent-frt3-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=25ffc07c572fab0360756aecea663c9c&oe=5EABD930



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Nograles: Cabinet members to donate 75% of monthly salary to aid COVID-19 fight
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In addition, Speaker Alan Peter Cayetano says House lawmakers will donate their May 2020 salaries in response to the COVID-19 crisis (https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/photos/a.248547658539245/3415584815168831/)


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Rosilito on April 04, 2020, 08:07:20 AM
Not a Yellow and Duterte supporter here, pero gusto ko lang sabihin, magaling ang ginawa ng Presidente... This is the right thing to do, di ito oras ng pulitika, let everyone do their part para maka survive tayo lahat...
I agree. What I dont like last night event is yung pagaddress ni Pres. Duterte, sa tagal ng ere mas nabigyan ng focus ang petty fights na dapat hindi niya na pinagsasabi especially on Diokno. He should just address the issue on a very brief thought then focus na sa on going plans and mga update sa accomplishment ng gobyerno.
That's how PRRD be define. I am not against him pero the entire term niya ata every announcement/deliberation niya ay may kasamang pagmumura, and uncalled ad hominem niya towards something. Nonetheless, at least na address niya 'yong dapat mangyari thing is 'yong mga Pinoy tend to focus sa negativity na mayroon si PRRD, and hindi na nila napapansin 'yong point nung mga sinabi ni President.

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I like how the Singapore address his nation with regards to their action plan agaisnt covid19. Singapore Prime Minister Press Con (https://youtu.be/adA6_PnIUuA) nakaka amaze siya kung paano niya iaddress ang kanilang ginagawa sa bansa nila. Hopefully ganito si Pres. Duterte.

Medyo mahaba 'yong Video at 'di ko na gaano pinanood pero from what I see, modest 'yong Prime Minister nila at clear siya sa mga sinasabi niya. Totally different from PRRD kasi, you know, bold si President, and doesn't hold back sa sasabihin niya. Well, medyo nakaka-surprise lang 'yong mga unexpected decisions niya, and parang malabo maging ganiyan si President. What I hope for now, is 'yong mas better pa na decisions, at 'wag masyado ilatag ang political interest every decisions.




Nograles: Cabinet members to donate 75% of monthly salary to aid COVID-19 fight

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MANILA, Philippines — A majority of Cabinet members have pledged to voluntarily donate 75 percent of their monthly salary to aid the government’s fight against the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), Cabinet Secretary Karlo Nograles said Saturday.

“Nais din nating ipagbigay-alam na ang karamihan, majority, ng mga miyembro ng gabinete ni Pangulong Duterte ay boluntaryong ibibigay ang malaking bahagi —75%— ng kanilang buwanang sahod upang ilaan sa mga programa ng gobyerno upang sugpuin ang COVID-19 sa loob ng panahong pinapatupad ang Bayanihan Law,” Nograles said during the Inter-Agency Task Force for Emerging Infectious Diseases briefing.

(We wish to inform you that a majority of the members of the Cabinet of President Duterte will voluntarily give 75 percent of their monthly salaries to the programs of the government to end COVID-19 during the effectivity of the Bayanihan Law.)

He was referring to Republic Act 11469, or the Bayabihan to Heal As One Law, which also gave President Rodrigo Duterte additional powers to address the COVID-19 crisis.

Some of the Cabinet members, Nograles added, will donate their salaries until December of this year just to support the anti-COVID-19 programs.

Nograles added that he is also one of the Cabinet members who have pledged to donate their salaries.

Not bad for Cabinet Members, and siguro isa na rin sa hinihintay natin na biggest move ng mga Cabinet Members. Pero sana walang bahid ng pagpapansin ito, pero whatever media would always be there, either way.

Source: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1253747/nograles-cabinet-members-to-donate-75-of-monthly-salary-to-aid-covid-19-fight


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 04, 2020, 10:14:47 AM
Right now, mas lalong tumataas ang cases ng COVID-19 sa bansa, at mas mabilis na Ang pagdami nito. Nakakabahala na pag mas lalo pa itong dumami ay baka hindi naito macontrol ng gobyerno at ng mga frontliners. Matatapos na ang ECQ pero mas lalo pang dumadami ang cases. Nakakatakot na pag once bumalik na ang lahat sa trabaho at eskwelahan habang hindi pa nakakahanap ng solution sa virus, mas lalong lalaki ito sa bansa.

Sa aming lugar (Valenzuela City) ay patuloy paring nadadagdagan ang cases kaya nakakatakot na din lumabas. Mayroon ng confirmed 19 positive cases at maraming PUI at PUM. However, thankful naman kasi maayos ang pamamahala sa amin ng aming LGU. Nabibigyan ang mga nangangailangan ng pagkain (kahit hindi pa lahat ay nabibigyan). Pero maganda na nakikita naman ang paggalaw ng LGU. Isa pang magandang balita sa aming lugar, magkakaroon ng mass testing para sa mga PUI, PUM, at mga frontliners sa Valenzuela na pinangunahan ng aming Mayor para mangyari.

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https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/04/valenzuela-to-mass-test-pums-puis-and-frontliners/

Kung kaya ng aming Mayor mag provide ng mass testing para sa nasasakupan nya, siguro kaya rin ng ibang LGU na may mas maraming cases. Hindi naman kailangan lahat siguro iasa sa National Government. Kasi ang mayor namin ay nagkaroon ng Public Private partnership para sa mass testing.





Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on April 04, 2020, 10:50:30 AM
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Bases sa statistics masasabi natin na patuloy ang paglaki ng mga kaso ng virus araw-araw, ~

Right now, mas lalong tumataas ang cases ng COVID-19 sa bansa, at mas mabilis na Ang pagdami nito.
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Expected na ito dahil dumami ang tests na nagagawa on a daily basis. Kung dati mangilan-ngilan lang dahil targeted lang yung mga nakukuhanan, ngayon expanded na dahil dumating na din ang mga kagamitan mula sa mga pinamili ng Gobyerno at sa mga donasyon ng mga private companies/citizens. Aprubado na din ng FDA ang mga test kits, na gawa ng mga UP scientists, for commercial use (https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/photos/a.556781254382549/3413793298681316/). Asahan na magkakaroon ng surge sa numbers of confirmed cases kapag nagkaroon na ng mass testing sa lahat ng PUMs at PUIs by April 14.

Kung mag-extend man ang ECQ o hindi ay nasa sa atin na yun.

https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/92141109_2621538064728335_329446389857648640_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_eui2=AeE-5_uYDx6RbsxzptWY5Oxvh6Cr3D-vegaHoKvcP696BhxkF8bWlU6ygJZwVy8KU40&_nc_oc=AQly2iYaMHiL_34k5Ns_8w_NtgsO6WmNTi7NDKti7OeXmKys_h5Ew5Lo6NLFKJ2edv0&_nc_ht=scontent-frx5-1.xx&oh=82793247cba92ae32e7ff091d54e5c4d&oe=5EAD21FF


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: acroman08 on April 04, 2020, 11:10:33 AM
Nakakatuwa na nagumpisa na ang distribution ng SAC program sa Paranaque City. I expect na sa mga susunod na araw pati yung ibang mga City ay magdistribute na din, since sila ang kaunahan na naibalita means mabilis ang galaw ng Local government sa lugar na yan. Hula ko Quezon City ang kulelat sa ganito dahil medyo kakaiba attitude ng Mayor nila.

The government begins distributing P5,000 to P8,000 emergency subsidy to poor families affected by the #COVID19 crisis. Sec. Carlito Galvez, the chief implementer of the national action plan against COVID 19 led the distribution of subsidy in Parañaque City. | via @VivienneGulla


ask ko lang kung sakop ba ng cash emergency subsidy ang mga may mga maliliit na sari sari store? nung nakaraan pa ko nag hahanap pero yung mga nakita ko para maka pag apply sa emergency cash subsidy ay kailangan ng COE(certificate of employment) etc. pero walang sinasabi na kung sakop ba yung may mga maliliit lang na sarisari store or yung mga hindi employed sa company. may kapit bahay kasi kami dito na may maliit na sari sari store at nag tanong  sakin kung alam ko daw ba kung pano makapag aapply yung mga hindi employed sa company.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 04, 2020, 02:37:59 PM
ask ko lang kung sakop ba ng cash emergency subsidy ang mga may mga maliliit na sari sari store? nung nakaraan pa ko nag hahanap pero yung mga nakita ko para maka pag apply sa emergency cash subsidy ay kailangan ng COE(certificate of employment) etc.


8.) Informal Economy Workers

Occasional Workers (e.g. labandera)

Subcontracted Workers (e.g. pakyaw workers)

Homeworkers (e.g. workers in family business such as crafts making, food processing, etc.);

Househelpers – who are not currently earning or cannot work because of the ECQ (e.g. kasambahay, family driver)

Pedicab, UVs, Tricycle, PUJs, Taxi, PUBs, Transport Network Vehicle Service (TNVS) and Transport Network Companies (TNC) drivers (also includes Grab, Angkas, Joyride riders and such)

micro-business and Sari-sari Store owners, and other similar business with asset less than Php10,000

Small Family Business Owners (e.g. vegetable or fruit vendors, streets vendors, RTW, carinderia, etc.)

Sub Minimum Wage Earners  (e.g. helpers in carinderia, sari-sari store)

Farm workers and Fisherfolks (e.g. magsasaka, mangingisda etc)

“no work, no pay” employees

Stranded workers (e.g. construction workers stranded in their respective construction site/s).

To answer you kabayan oo pasok sa category yan. Hintay ninyo lang ang SAC form then fill up kayo, karapatan ninyo yan kung wala pa man, antay lang and be patient.

SANA ALL


thumbs up Mayor Isko sana lahat ng politician ganyan.


source:


  • https://www.noypigeeks.com/government/dswd-social-amelioration-program (https://www.noypigeeks.com/government/dswd-social-amelioration-program)
  • https://twitter.com/ManilaPIO/status/1246426334407970818?s=19 (https://twitter.com/ManilaPIO/status/1246426334407970818?s=19)


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: bisdak40 on April 04, 2020, 09:56:26 PM
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1851213

Ito yong hindi magandang balita para sa ating mga Pilipino dahil baka sa mga susunod na araw (sana hindi naman) ay baka lumobo pa ang bilang ng magkakaroon ng COVID-19.


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THE Department of Health-Regional Epidemiology and Surveillance Unit (DOH-Resu) in Davao Region said they are tracing some 400 personalities who had exposure to the New Davao Matina Gallera in Matina, Davao City after 12 cock derby goers have been confirmed positive with coronavirus disease (Covid-19), including the four who succumbed to the disease.

Dr. Cleo Fe Tabada, medical officer of DOH-Resu-Davao, said the 12 had travel history to the cockpit. Contact tracing is being conducted by their surveillance team to check whether the people in the cockpit had close contact with the 12 before their result came out.

Sa ngayong ay may 12 na nagpositibo at gumagawa na sila ng contact tracing sa mga makasalamuha nila at alam naman natin na gaano kadali nila mag-multiply. Sana naman ay naka-isolate or lockdown na ang Davao region bago pa man dumating ang kanilang mga resulta.

Sa mga nandito sa forum na malapit sa area na yan, ingat as always guys.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Mr. Big on April 05, 2020, 01:49:49 AM
MANILA, Philippines — The Luzon-wide enhanced community quarantine set to end on April 12 may have to be extended for 15 to 20 more days to sustain its gains, the head of the national task force (NTF) against the new coronavirus disease (COVID-19) said on Saturday.

Task force chief Carlito Galvez Jr., who is also the presidential peace adviser, said the timing of the lifting of the quarantine was being discussed with the Inter-Agency Task Force on Emerging Infectious Diseases (IATF-EID), which makes the policies to be implemented by the NTF during the national health emergency.

“It’s quite difficult to rush to normalcy and the problem comes back. What we are considering is to impose this in one go, perhaps extend it for another 15 or maybe 20 more days so we can sustain its positive impact,” he said in a radio interview.

An ill-timed termination of the quarantine period may spoil the government’s goal of “flattening the curve,” or controlling the contagion, Galvez said.

The DOH reported that 3,094 people had been afflicted with COVID-19, including 144 who had died and 57 who had recovered as of Saturday.

“It will be premature if we make the announcement at this time. We cannot preempt the decision of the President,” Galvez said.

Partial or total lifting?
Takeshi Kasai, Western Pacific regional director for the World Health Organization had also cautioned against rushing to end the quarantine and halt other public health regulations against COVID-19.

“We may have to peel one by one and not just immediately lift those public health measures which were bundled with the lockdown to balance and control the disease and to bring society back to normal,” he said.

Some lawmakers and business groups have called for an extension or gradual lifting of the restrictions.

Cabinet Secretary Karlo Nograles, the IATF-EID spokesperson, said it had approved the parameters proposed by a subtechnical working group for deciding whether to totally or partially lift or extend the Luzon lockdown.

The parameters include the trends in the growth or deceleration in the number of COVID-19 cases in the country, said Nograles.

Capacity assessment
Also to be considered are the capacity of the country’s health care system, including the number and availability of quarantine, isolation, and treatment facilities; the capability to mount contact tracing; the availability of personal protective equipment for front-line workers; and the country’s testing capacity.

Various social, economic and security factors will also be weighed, Nograles said.

He said the Department of Health (DOH) was directed to “convene all concerned agencies and to finalize the aggregation and analysis of all relevant data” which would be discussed by the IATF-EID before President Duterte makes the “final determination” of what to do.

Nograles said experts, including scientists, doctors, and members of the academe, would analyze data in coming up with recommendations about the quarantine.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1254015/govt-in-no-rush-to-end-lockdown?fbclid=IwAR3uU0dL9iehKGbDP44pslwE20MjWc0MWvoSX1__OPmKygPO5eLUkD-EeZI

OK lang ma extend ang ECQ, suportahan na muna ng gobyerno ang pangailangan ng mga apektado, and mas OK kung magkarun muna ng Mass testing then saka na pag desisyunan kung i - lift na ba, o dahan dahan lang...


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on April 05, 2020, 05:04:54 AM
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OK lang ma extend ang ECQ, suportahan na muna ng gobyerno ang pangailangan ng mga apektado, and mas OK kung magkarun muna ng Mass testing then saka na pag desisyunan kung i - lift na ba, o dahan dahan lang...
Sang-ayon din ako sa extension.
Sa palagay ko ginawang good for two months yung Social Amelioration Program dahil naisipan na din nilang i-extend ang ECQ.
Tungkol sa Mass testing, hindi yata nila magagawa yan bago matapos ang April 12. Ayon sa mga naunang pahayag, April 14 pa gagawin sa mga PUMs at PUIs.

Sana nga mag-extend pa para bumaba yung risk ng second wave of infections kagaya ng nangyari sa Singapore kung saan biglang taas ulit ng mga panibagong cases sa kanila. Parang nabalewala tuloy yung mga previous efforts nila ngayon. Read Coronavirus Singapore: 100 to 1,000 infections in one month. What happened? (https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3078199/coronavirus-singapore-100-1000-infections-one-month)

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THE SECOND WAVE
Experts say the surge of cases in this country of 5.7 million people represents a “second wave” of infections.

The first wave began when tourists from mainland China passed the virus to Singapore residents in the initial stages of the global outbreak, with the earliest cases happening before the city state had implemented any travel restrictions.
As the number of cases grew, the city state introduced increasingly strict travel restrictions, first targeting foreign travellers coming from China, then Korea, Italy and Iran, and eventually barring all travellers.

However, a large part of the second wave of infections involves Singapore residents returning from countries such as the United States and Britain, which are experiencing a surge of cases.
Even more worryingly for authorities, the second wave also includes an increasing number of locally transmitted infections and cases with no known links to confirmed patients.
In response to the second wave, the city state introduced stricter social distancing measures, barring the entry of all travellers from March 23 and on March 27 closing bars and nightlife venues, limiting gatherings to 10 people and introducing penalties for individuals and restaurants who failed to keep customers one metre apart. Residents were urged to stay home and go out only to get essentials.

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After lifting ng ECQ, we all know na ang next challenge ay ang road to economic recovery. The DOF/IATF-TWG led by NEDA is asking for our opinons (consumers and business owners) to help them craft programs and policies.

  • Consumers - fill up by April 5 https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScP9t_F6HurK8x5vwjdYQ7eETGHgq5jiCg0dShViwD_V6noww/viewform
  • Business owners - fill up  by April 7 https://www.113.vovici.net/se/13B2588B72FC5832

Source (https://www.facebook.com/DOFPH/posts/1399851626842783)
https://scontent-otp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/91499230_1399851590176120_8944393119042895872_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_eui2=AeEoh4CwGnHJMbAwTmxTBGd2Opus_iarIvs6m6z-Jqsi-zCudg5gIvh9f7-R2gEfC1o&_nc_oc=AQnlxn4Xuq31Y2_eAoxBi-cSrF2kWYR5eW8gg7PCmqZYTlswiyc3lkEUBVhiPBtmdiU&_nc_ht=scontent-otp1-1.xx&oh=2ecbbfbe7e7bb7f9151248ffd4353cfc&oe=5EAFD73E


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 05, 2020, 08:39:55 AM
Current update as of 4:30pm (PH TIME) April 5, 2020.



Great News guys!

TOKYO - Japan is considering increasing the stockpile of Fujifilm Holding Corp's Avigan anti-flu drug during this fiscal year so it can be used to treat 2 million people, according to a planning document seen by Reuters.

Local media reported on Sunday that Japan was hoping to triple the production of the drug from current levels, which is enough to treat 700,000 people if used by coronavirus patients.

Avigan, also known as Favipiravir, is manufactured by a subsidiary of Fujifilm, which has a healthcare arm although it is better known for its cameras. The drug was approved for use in Japan in 2014. Avigan is being tested in China as a treatment for COVID-19.

In the emergency stimulus package expected to be rolled out on Tuesday, the government also planned to prioritize the clinical trial process of the drug so it can be formally approved to be used in treating coronavirus patients.

According to the document, Japan also plans to boost subsidies to domestic companies that supply masks and disinfectants and will secure enough capacity to supply 700 million masks a month.

The Nikkei newspaper reported on Sunday that in efforts to reduce its dependence on China as its manufacturing hub, it will subsidize companies that will move some of their production facilities back to Japan.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said on Friday a stimulus package to combat the coronavirus pandemic will target small firms and households hardest hit by social distancing policies that are affecting consumption.

The package will include cash payouts to small firms and households facing sharp falls in income, Abe said.

The government will also urge private financial institutions to join government-affiliated lenders in offering zero-interest rate loans to cash-strapped small and midsized firms, he said.

Philippine Health Undersecretary Maria Rosario Vergeire said Sunday there has been an offer for a clinical trial coming from Japan, "whereby this drug will be used and we are going to identify hospitals and patients."

"We had communicated already through our (Department of Foreign Affairs) that we are interested in joining so that we can access this drug," Vergeire told ANC.
Although this stage or request is only for clinical trial. Well at least the Philippines are participating to all joint venture regarding finding ways to help covid cases. Sana lang isa na ito sa mga solusyon na panlaban sa covid. We all know how smart Japanese are and I hope what they doing will be the ultimate cure for this pandemic Virus.

Sources:

https://www.coronatracker.com/analytics/

https://news.abs-cbn.com/amp/business/04/05/20/japan-to-boost-avigan-drug-stockpile-as-part-of-coronavirus-stimulus?__twitter_impression=true


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Rosilito on April 05, 2020, 08:41:22 AM
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OK lang ma extend ang ECQ, suportahan na muna ng gobyerno ang pangailangan ng mga apektado, and mas OK kung magkarun muna ng Mass testing then saka na pag desisyunan kung i - lift na ba, o dahan dahan lang...
Sang-ayon din ako sa extension.
Sa palagay ko ginawang good for two months yung Social Amelioration Program dahil naisipan na din nilang i-extend ang ECQ.
Tungkol sa Mass testing, hindi yata nila magagawa yan bago matapos ang April 12. Ayon sa mga naunang pahayag, April 14 pa gagawin sa mga PUMs at PUIs.

I think there's no doubt na mae-extend talaga ang ECQ by at least 2 weeks or a month. Considering the statement by General Galvez ika nga:

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"With the announcement of the Chief Implementer, [retired] General Galvez, that mass testing can only be conducted on April 14, which is still 11 days from now, we are left with no other choice but to extend the ECQ by at least two weeks," he said.

"Mass testing of persons under monitoring and persons under investigation is the only way to determine if we are winning the war or not. Without mass testing, we are totally blind," he added.

Interior Secretary Eduardo Año earlier said an extension is not advisable as this would hurt the country's economy.

Health Secretary Francisco Duque, four days ago, said it was too early to say if the implementation of the Luzon-wide quarantine should be prolonged.

Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732536/senators-weigh-in-on-possible-extension-of-enhanced-community-quarantine/story/

Totoo naman talaga na bulag tayo sa biggest possibilities behind. Hindi natin alam exact case or even the closest possible amount of cases we already have in this country. Mass testing to PUIs and PUMs lang makakapagdala somehow ng clear vision sa kalagayan natin dito sa bansa. Thus, further decisions might come up whether to lift up exclusively either sa mga businesses (since babagsak na ang ekonomiya natin, or sa school matters which is malabo) or unfortunate man tingnan we might even experience longer ECQ kasi siyempre magkakaroon pa ng contact tracing 'yan para ma-isolate na agad mga possible carrier or not.

Bukod pa rito, sinusuportahan na rin ni VP Leni Robredo itong extension. Here's the source:

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MANILA, Philippines — Vice President Leni Robredo said Sunday she will support an extension of the enhanced community quarantine, but underscored that it was “crucial” for the government to explain to the people why it was necessary and that assistance should be expedited.
Source: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1254099/robredo-backs-lockdown-extension

Since nag-lead na si VP Leni Robredo, panigurado may ba-back na rin sa idea na 'to. The biggest problem is:

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“Pero crucial para mag-cooperate ang mga tao, crucial na naiintindihan nila kung bakit kailangan gawin. Kung hindi nila naiintindihan bakit kailangan gawin, ‘yung resistance nandyan,” she said.

(It’s crucial that for people to cooperate, they need to understand why we need to do this. If they can’t understand why, there will be resistance.

The vice president also believes that the local government units instead of the Department of Social Welfare and Development would know better about the processing the national government’s social amelioration program.

“Ako naniniwala ako na ang LGU ang dapat gumagawa nito. Ang LGU yung may sense kung ano talaga ang nangyayari on the ground, LGU ang nakakaalam ng landscape,” she said.

Let me highlight 'yong biggest problem
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‘yung resistance nandyan

Source: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1254099/robredo-backs-lockdown-extension

Well, resistance once again. Feeling ko kahit saan naman lumugar gobyerno 'di na mawawala 'tong pag-alma lalo na itong 1 month pa lang na ECQ marami na nakaramdam ng hirap at 'di nakipag-cooperate what more 'yong possible extension pa?

Talk about LGUs naman. Once again, mangunguna nanaman mga competitive, and diligent mayors natin diyan given na sila Mayor Vico, Mayor Isko, at Mayor Rex nakakaawa man tingnan 'yong QC pero sana naman once this possible ECQ extension ay maexecute, ay kumilos naman for the better 'tong si Mayor Joy.




Baka may mga napapaisip na dito ng kung ano-ano. Here's another good news mga kabayan:

NGO launches hotline for legal advice, consultation during quarantine

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MANILA, Philippines — Legal group Initiatives for Dialogue and Empowerment through Alternative Legal Services (IDEALS, Inc.) this weekend launched a crisis hotline to provide accessible legal advice, consultation, and information aid to the public amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

Through the hotline, the non-government organization's lawyers and paralegals will be made available to answer the public's queries on government protocols, relief operations, social welfare concerns and legal rights education in the context of the enhanced community quarantine.

Source: https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/04/05/2005642/ngo-launches-hotline-legal-advice-consultation-during-quarantine

You may use this Hotline number nila: 0966 760 9397
Or their facebook page: IDEALS, Inc. (https://www.facebook.com/idealsorgph/)


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 05, 2020, 09:04:30 AM
Singapore Offering aid sa Pilipinas sa pamamagitan ng kanilang app na TraceTracker (https://www.gov.sg/article/help-speed-up-contact-tracing-with-tracetogether) sa tingin ko ayos din itong gawin dito sa Pilipinas, yung idea ay simple lang at possible help na rin para mag locate ng mga possible close contact. Maaari rin siguro natin iadopt ang paggamit nito, anything that helps reduce the case will be helpful IMO.



Singapore has expressed willingness to work with the Philippines in using an app that would help in the tracing of individuals who have come in contact with COVID-19 patients, the Department of Information and Communications Technology said Sunday.

Singaporean Ambassador Ho Wei Hong was quoted by the DICT as saying his government is willing to provide the Philippines technical assistance on the use of the app called TraceTogether.

TraceTogether, an app developed by SGUnited, the Singaporean Government Technology Agency and the Singaporean Ministry of Health, uses Bluetooth to track people who have come close to a COVID-19 patient.

It tracks when they were in close proximity with other people, which can be used to identify the close contacts of COVID-19 patients, if they allow the Singaporean Ministry of Health access to data in the app.

The Singaporean government ensures that the app does not track a user’s location and contacts and data it collects will only be stored on the phone for 21 days and will not be accessed unless they are identified as a close contact.

Sources:

https://www.gov.sg/article/help-speed-up-contact-tracing-with-tracetogether

https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/4/5/Singapore-Philippines-COVID-19-coronavirus-app.html?fbclid=IwAR1yQCvATvV0kM3ObkzYgIb5k6b71CSZy51re-eQB6H_VU2YtN5s3wiR1DI



Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on April 05, 2020, 04:49:58 PM
More and more people/groups from both sides of the fence are expressing their support for the extended lockdown which is great. Hopefully, meron na talagang cooperation ang lahat hanggang sa ma-overcome ang health crisis at ang economic impact ng COVID-19. I was particularly impress with the appeal and challenge of Mayor Isko Moreno (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732661/mayor-isko-s-dare-amid-covid-19-crisis-draws-reactions-from-senators/story/) sa mga Congressman at mga Senador na isantabi muna ang politics at tumulong na lang muna. Mraming tinamaan pero ayos lang  ;D.

President Duterte and his Cabinet secretaries, Congressmen, Senators, local elected officials donating salaries to help boost funds in the fight against COVID-19.
  • https://www.ptvnews.ph/prrd-to-donate-1-month-salary-to-fight-covid-19/
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732644/majority-of-cabinet-members-to-donate-75-of-salary-to-covid-19-response-nograles/story/
  • https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/4/5/House-donation-salary-covid-19.html
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732724/senators-silently-donating-salaries-for-covid-19-emergency-sotto/story/
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/metro/732692/elected-manila-officials-to-donate-salaries-to-pgh/story/



Lampas na pala sa 19,000 ang mga Pinoy na na-testing at 83% dito ay negative.

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732763/83-of-over-19-000-people-tested-were-negative-for-covid-19-doh/story/
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Of the over 19,000 people who were tested for the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), 83 percent were negative for the illness, the Department of Health (DOH) reported on Sunday.

“Tayo po ay nakapag-test na ng 19,585 individuals. Kasama po sa bilang na ito ang mga test na ginagawa sa ating mga pasyenteng COVID-19-positive… upang ma-monitor po ang progreso ng kanilang kalusugan,” Health Undersecretary Rosette Vergeire said at a virtual press briefing.

“Sa lahat po ng tine-test natin for COVID-19, 83 percent ang nagreresulta ng negatibo.”

The DOH said that a total of 23,678 tests, including retests, had been processed as of Saturday.

There were currently eight laboratories nationwide that had received certification to conduct independent COVID-19 testing.

All the accredited laboratories were capable of testing 1,200 individuals each day, according to Vergeire.

Meanwhile, some 78 other facilities were currently seeking certification to conduct COVID-19 testing.

“Ang target po natin ay 8,000 hanggang 10,000 tests kada araw... pagdating ng April 14,” the health official said.

The chief of the government's COVID-19 response earlier announced that mass testing of suspected cases would begin on the same date.

COVID-19 has infected 3,246 people nationwide as of Sunday afternoon.

Of this number, 152 have died while 64 have already recovered.

**I'm reading some claims na yung 19,000+ ay numbers of tests done at not the number of people tested. Pwede kasing multiple test ang ginagawa para sa isang tao. According to the claim, nasa 5,900+ ang PUIs na tested. I'll update again kung alin ang tama (doubtful din kasi ako sa 19,000+).

Edit (Apr. 6): Update on 19,000+ vs. 5,900+ people tested, mukhang tinanggal na yung data on PUIs tested sa NcovPh tracker (https://ncovtracker.doh.gov.ph/) (kaya pala hindi ko din makita kahapon). No way for us (the public) to verify the news. Anyway, here's a screenshot of where the 5,900+ tested PUIs came from (top right):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EU13ACiU8AAXneX?format=png&name=small





Other relevant news/events today:
  • Chinese medical team arrived in the Philippines to help combat the virus (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732729/chinese-medical-team-arrives-in-manila-to-assist-in-efforts-against-covid-19/story/)
  • Para sa mga taga-Rizal, the entire province is now on lockdown starting April 6 (8:00 AM) (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/regions/732711/rizal-on-lockdown-starting-monday-april-6-due-to-covid-19-threat/story/)
  • Halos tapos na din ang pag-convert ng mga iba't ibang gusali bilang mga bagong quarantine facilities kagaya ng Rizal Memorial Sports Complex, the Philippine International Convention Center, World Trade Center, Ninoy Aquino Stadium, at iba pa. Follow The BCDA Group's page (https://www.facebook.com/TheBCDAGroup/) for the developments


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 06, 2020, 01:18:30 PM
Its been almost two weeks since this thread has been posted and we already gained a lot of information from all the concerned users of this Local Thread by posting updated reports and news on whats happening in our country related to covid19. I would like to sum up all these gathered substantial sources up to date.

COMPILATIONS OF NEWS SUBMITTED HERE REGARDING COVID19 EVENTS ON THE PHILIPPINES

  • https://www.doh.gov.ph/2019-nCov/infographics
  • https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/read-republic-act-11469-or-the-bayanihan-to-heal-as-one-act/ar-BB11Fw1K
  • https://www.esquiremag.ph/life/health-and-fitness/covid-testing-a2099-20200319-lfrm
  • https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/24/20/mass-testing-unrealistic-in-ph-at-this-time-infectious-disease-expert
  • https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-19-tests-country?country=AUS+AUT+BEL+BRA+COL+FIN+FRA+DEU+IDN+MYS+NOR+PAK+PHL+RUS+KOR+THA+GBR+USA+VNM
  • https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/regions/731668/laguna-placed-under-total-lockdown-due-to-covid-19-threat/story/%3famp
  • https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-27/abbott-launches-5-minute-covid-19-test-for-use-almost-anywhere
  • https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/25/Fake-news-peddlers-P1-million-fine-under-Duterte-special-powers.html
  • https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/29/gatchalian-criticizes-doh-for-lack-of-preparation
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/731854/doh-exec-japanese-anti-flu-drug-very-promising-treatment-for-covid-19-patients/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook
  • https://www.fda.gov.ph/fda-advisory-no-2020-452-baseless-claims-of-prodex-b-as-anti-viral-treatment-for-covid-19
  • https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/30/FDA-rapid-test-kits.html
  • https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/30/1-million-ppe-sets-worth-p1-8b-due-for-delivery-to-doh-for-distribution-to-health-workers
  • https://www.dof.gov.ph/dof-says-covid-19-emergency-subsidy-largest-social-protection-program-in-phl-history
  • https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/03/31/2004508/duterte-unveils-p200-billion-aid-low-income-families-affected-quarantine
  • https://ptvnews.ph/dilg-to-lgus-barangays-move-fast-to-come-up-with-master-list-of-target-beneficiaries-of-social-amelioration-program-vs-covid-19
  • https://www.in-philippines.com/number-of-regions-provinces-cities-municipalities-and-barangays
  • https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/03/iatf-launches-rapidpass-system-for-use-in-checkpoints
  • https://www.manilatimes.net/2020/04/03/second-headline/govt-to-start-covid-19-mass-testing-by-april-14-galvez/709264
  • https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandrasternlicht/2020/04/02/duterte-threatens-to-shoot-quarantine-violators-in-philippines/#4d9b74932b85
  • https://www.rappler.com/nation/256705-duterte-orders-troops-shoot-kill-coronavirus-quarantine-violators
  • https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1252718/quarantine-violators-leftists-wont-be-shot-pnp-chief-assures
  • https://bitpinas.com/feature/list-banks-extend-grace-period-loan-payments-due-coronavirus-outbreak/#list_of_banks_with_extended_grace_period_for_loan_payments
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/metro/732566/joy-belmonte-apologizes-for-losing-cool-on-social-media-joy-para-sa-bayan-bags/story
  • https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1253628/duterte-fires-paccs-luna-for-urging-nbi-to-probe-robredo
  • https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1098825
  • https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1253747/nograles-cabinet-members-to-donate-75-of-monthly-salary-to-aid-covid-19-fight
  • https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/04/valenzuela-to-mass-test-pums-puis-and-frontliners
  • https://www.noypigeeks.com/government/dswd-social-amelioration-program
  • https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1851213
  • https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1254015/govt-in-no-rush-to-end-lockdown?fbclid=IwAR3uU0dL9iehKGbDP44pslwE20MjWc0MWvoSX1__OPmKygPO5eLUkD-EeZI
  • https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3078199/coronavirus-singapore-100-1000-infections-one-month
  • https://www.113.vovici.net/se/13B2588B72FC5832
  • https://news.abs-cbn.com/amp/business/04/05/20/japan-to-boost-avigan-drug-stockpile-as-part-of-coronavirus-stimulus?__twitter_impression=true
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732536/senators-weigh-in-on-possible-extension-of-enhanced-community-quarantine/story
  • https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1254099/robredo-backs-lockdown-extension
  • https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1254099/robredo-backs-lockdown-extension
  • https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/4/5/Singapore-Philippines-COVID-19-coronavirus-app.html?fbclid=IwAR1yQCvATvV0kM3ObkzYgIb5k6b71CSZy51re-eQB6H_VU2YtN5s3wiR1DI
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732661/mayor-isko-s-dare-amid-covid-19-crisis-draws-reactions-from-senators/story
  • https://www.ptvnews.ph/prrd-to-donate-1-month-salary-to-fight-covid-19
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732644/majority-of-cabinet-members-to-donate-75-of-salary-to-covid-19-response-nograles/story
  • https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/4/5/House-donation-salary-covid-19.html
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732724/senators-silently-donating-salaries-for-covid-19-emergency-sotto/story
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/metro/732692/elected-manila-officials-to-donate-salaries-to-pgh/story
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732763/83-of-over-19-000-people-tested-were-negative-for-covid-19-doh/story/
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/732729/chinese-medical-team-arrives-in-manila-to-assist-in-efforts-against-covid-19/story
  • https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/regions/732711/rizal-on-lockdown-starting-monday-april-6-due-to-covid-19-threat/story/

Thanks to those actively sharing the live update of these news here and please do continue to gather more information so our users here will be keep informed. Would like to thanks OP for intiating a megathread for covid19 news @mk4 and all contributors here; @Bttzed03, @asu, @crwth, @bl4nkcode, @Gdragon, @julerz12 @Rosilito, @Maus0728, @finaleshot2016, @bisdak, @plvbob0070 @nutildah, @acroman08, @Mr. Big and yours truly. I will continue to look for helpful updates and share it with you guys here.


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Bttzed03 on April 06, 2020, 01:39:09 PM
Sa mga nakasubaybay sa mga actions ng Gobyerno, naisumite na ng Pangulo ang pangalawang report sa Kongreso  - Pres. Rodrigo Duterte’s second report to the Congress on the government's implementation of the Bayanihan to Heal As One Act (https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/posts/3420751967985449).



Sa mga hindi pa pala nakasagot sa online survey conducted by DOF, extend ang pagsagot hanggang bukas (April 7) ng tanghali kaya pwede pa humabol.

The Interagency Task Force (IATF) - Technical Working Group (TWG) on Anticipatory and Forward Planning, led by the National Economic and Development Authority, is conducting an online survey to better understand the needs and experience of business owners and consumers under the Enhanced Community Quarantine (ECQ) brought about by the COVID-19 pandemic.

Your answers will help the government design appropriate policies and programs for you.

PLEASE FILL OUT SURVEY BY APRIL 7, 12NN
🔹 Business owners (available in English, Tagalog, and Bisaya): bit.ly/MSMEsurvey
🔹 Consumers (English): bit.ly/ConsumerRAsurvey
🔹 Consumers (Tagalog): bit.ly/ConsumerRAsurveyTagalog



Sa mga gumagamit ng mga surgical masks kapag, please check kung protektado ba talaga kayo nyan. Watch the breath test video (https://www.facebook.com/applefloresb/videos/10218809936372585/) para malaman kung peke ang mask o hindi.



While the IATF is still discussing kung i-extend ang ECQ, some trivia muna tayo. Ibig sabihin pala ng salitang "Quarantine" ay a period of 40 days (source) (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quarantine). Ayon sa  Wikipedia, galing ang salitang ito sa "Quarantena" na ibig sabihin ay forty days.

The word "quarantine" originates from quarantena, the Venetian language form, meaning "forty days".[13][3] This is due to the 40-day isolation of ships and people practiced as a measure of disease prevention related to the plague.[13] Between 1348 and 1359, the Black Death wiped out an estimated 30% of Europe's population, and a significant percentage of Asia's population.[13] Such a disaster led governments to establish measures of containment to handle recurrent epidemics.[13] A document from 1377 states that before entering the city-state of Ragusa in Dalmatia (modern Dubrovnik in Croatia), newcomers had to spend 30 days (a trentine) in a restricted place (originally nearby islands) waiting to see whether the symptoms of Black Death would develop.[13] In 1448 the Venetian Senate prolonged the waiting period to 40 days, thus giving birth to the term "quarantine".[1] The forty-day quarantine proved to be an effective formula for handling outbreaks of the plague. Dubrovnik was the first city in Europe to set up quarantine sites such as the Lazzarettos of Dubrovnik were arriving ship personnel were held for up to 40 days.[14] According to current estimates, the bubonic plague had a 37-day period from infection to death; therefore, the European quarantines would have been highly successful in determining the health of crews from potential trading and supply ships.[15]

Kaya alam niyo na, hindi talaga pang-30 days lang  ;D



Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Casdinyard on April 06, 2020, 03:51:22 PM
Sa mga nakasubaybay sa mga actions ng Gobyerno, naisumite na ng Pangulo ang pangalawang report sa Kongreso  - Pres. Rodrigo Duterte’s second report to the Congress on the government's implementation of the Bayanihan to Heal As One Act (https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/posts/3420751967985449).

Nakasubaybay ako sa mga nangyayari about sa report na to at alam mo masyado nang tumatagal ang pag proseso ng mga bagay na to, given na mag iisang buwan na tayong under Quarantine and almost 2 weeks under Enhanced Quaratine e dapat naayudahan na nila agad ang mga tao. Ito dapat ang urgent na pinoproseso kasabay ng mga testing kits and centers.

Sa mga gumagamit ng mga surgical masks kapag, please check kung protektado ba talaga kayo nyan. Watch the breath test video (https://www.facebook.com/applefloresb/videos/10218809936372585/) para malaman kung peke ang mask o hindi.
Dagdag problema pa yung mga low quality made or worst fake mask na binebenta ngayon sa market, talamak to ngayon, imbis na lumalabas ang taong protektado para makaiwas sa hawaan eh ang nagiging resulta lang ay lumalabas  sila ng unprotected.

https://i.insider.com/5e691773e4f9fe6069578734?width=1200&format=jpeg (https://i.insider.com/5e691773e4f9fe6069578734?width=1200&format=jpeg)
https://i.postimg.cc/vBrkrLym/masks.jpg

eto yung masks na talagang effective sa panahon ngayon :

1. Quality made na Surgical Mask
2. N95 masks ( ito yung gamit ko pag lumalabas ng bahay) Mas nafifilter yung air particles compare sa surgical mask
Then different kinds ng respirator, mga pangsala na talaga ng airborne particles 100% safe sa virus.


While the IATF is still discussing kung i-extend ang ECQ, some trivia muna tayo. Ibig sabihin pala ng salitang "Quarantine" ay a period of 40 days (source) (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quarantine). Ayon sa  Wikipedia, galing ang salitang ito sa "Quarantena" na ibig sabihin ay forty days.
 KWARENTA? makes sense bro, good point.

The word "quarantine" originates from quarantena, the Venetian language form, meaning "forty days".[13][3] This is due to the 40-day isolation of ships and people practiced as a measure of disease prevention related to the plague.[13] Between 1348 and 1359, the Black Death wiped out an estimated 30% of Europe's population, and a significant percentage of Asia's population.[13] Such a disaster led governments to establish measures of containment to handle recurrent epidemics.[13] A document from 1377 states that before entering the city-state of Ragusa in Dalmatia (modern Dubrovnik in Croatia), newcomers had to spend 30 days (a trentine) in a restricted place (originally nearby islands) waiting to see whether the symptoms of Black Death would develop.[13] In 1448 the Venetian Senate prolonged the waiting period to 40 days, thus giving birth to the term "quarantine".[1] The forty-day quarantine proved to be an effective formula for handling outbreaks of the plague. Dubrovnik was the first city in Europe to set up quarantine sites such as the Lazzarettos of Dubrovnik were arriving ship personnel were held for up to 40 days.[14] According to current estimates, the bubonic plague had a 37-day period from infection to death; therefore, the European quarantines would have been highly successful in determining the health of crews from potential trading and supply ships.[15]

Kaya alam niyo na, hindi talaga pang-30 days lang  ;D
Panong hindi mas tatagal ng 30-40 days ang quarantine eh eksaktong 1month after nag declare ng quarantine bago mag mass testing dahil ngayon lang naaprubahan ang testing kits donated from China and other foundations ng DOH. Although di naman ako nagmamadali ano, ginagawa lahat ng gobyerno para maresolba pero parang di sumasapat, sumasamabay din kase yung ibang problema sa bansa. Biruin mo sobrang luwang ng kalsada may mga naaksidente pa, ang malala nyan involve pa minsan ang mga ambulansya. ( di ko na makita yung balita na yun pero that was about 2 days ago) Then eto pa ang masakit, see this https://www.philstar.com/nation/2020/04/03/2005296/ambulance-driver-shot-over-suspicion-ferrying-covid-19-patients (http://NEWS) , may binaril na ambulance driver.

KUKULANGIN PA BA ANG ISANG BUWAN o 40 DAYS NG QUARANTINE? ANO SA TINGIN NYO?
DAHIL MUKANG AABOT PA TO HANGGANG MAY or JUNE PERO WAG NAMAN SANA


Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
Post by: Rosilito on April 06, 2020, 04:38:28 PM
      [SUMMARY] REPORT TO THE JOINT CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 OF REPUBLIC ACT NO. 11469

                                            "BAYANIHAN TO HEAL AS ONE ACT"



      WHICH IS THE SECOND REPORT BY PRRD recently.

      AS OF [MONDAY, 06 APRIL 2020]
      Made by: Rosilito
      Para hindi na kayo ma-bother magbasa ng 22 pages


      • Two weeks after the enactment of (RA)No. 11469 "BAYANIHAN TO HEAL AS ONE ACT
      • Concrete report has been made considering the measures of 69 departments, agencies, and Executive branch involved.
      • The government prioritizes these 3 measures:
      • I. Providing Emergency Assistance to all Affected Sectors
      • II. Secure Facilities and Resources for Health Sector and Other Frontliners
      • III. Establish Sound Fiscal and Monetary Actions that are Responsive to all Stakeholders

      • Providing Emergency Assistance to all Affected Sectors
                  
        • Discusses the expansion of 4ps for Low Income Household
        • DSWD received PHP 100 Billion out of PHP 200 Billion, upon the request
        • The amount of money received would be used to cover the implementation of SAP for 1 month
        • Section 4(c)
        • Emergency subsidy for 18M low income households
        • Subsidy amounts to PHP5,000 to PHP8,000
        • Subsidy given may vary on the prevailing regional minimum wages rate
        • Section 4(cc)
        • Expansion of 4ps
        • 4ps may come in cash or non-cash transfer directly to LGUs or directly to households who have no incomes
        • DSWD turn PHP16,347,295.00 to not less than 3,721,833 beneficiaries of 4ps
        • DSWD partnered to LTFRB and LBP for quick, and efficient distribution
        • The Sustainable Livelihood Porgram-National Program Management Office undergoes on creating guidelines for the release of LAG
        • LAG may come in effect on or before April 14
        • LAG may be use as a capital for micro-enterprises
        • DAR coordinates with DSWD, DA, DILG to ensure treatments to beneficiaries
        • Agrarian Reform Beneficiaries will receive PHP5,000
        • LBP paid PHP6,065,483,150.00 for DSWD beneficiaries
      • Secure Facilities and Resources for Health Sector and Other Frontliners
                  
        • 55 Covid referral hospitals designates for activation
        • Every Region have at least 1 hospital ready to accommodate COVID-19 patiens
        • Property/Venue for frontliners as quarantine centers, distribution locations, and temporary medical facilties
        • DPWH starts to convert Ninoy Aquino Stadium, and World Trade Center into health facilties
        • 2GO group agrees to convert ship into quarantine facilities
        • 1 time special risk allowance to PHWs for entire ECQ time span
        • PCSO approved PHP444,500M to provide financial assistance to 81 beneficiaries hospitals
        • DOH with the coordination with RITM and WHO accredits 8 COVID-19 testing laboratories
        • 4 in NCR
        • DOST deploys 106 units of RxBox
        • RxBox is a monitoring device for Covid-19 patients
        • RxBox minimizes the contact between healthcare workers and patients
        • DFA processed international humanitarian assistance from 4 foreign governments
        • Philippine Air Force sets to pick up PPEs from China
      • Establish Sound Fiscal and Monetary Actions that are Responsive to all Stakeholders
                  
        • IRR directs 30-day grace period of extension for lenders without an interest
        • DOF approves loans is not subjected to TAX
        • DHSUD declared buyers of lots, and units requires to registered with DHSUD
        • Under Section 4(w) states:
        • unspent, and unreleased funds must be appropriated to support Covid-19 measures

      Abbreviations for clarifications na rin:

      DSWD - Department of Social Welfare and Development
      SAP - Social Amelioration Program
      4ps - Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program
      LTFRB - Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board
      LBP - Land Bank of the Philippines
      LAG - Livelihood Assistance Grant
      DAR - Department of Agrarian Reform
      DA - Department of Agriculture
      DILG - Department of the Interior and Local Government
      LBP - Land Bank of the Philippines
      DPWH - Department of Public Works and Highways
      PCSO - Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office
      DOH - Department of Health
      WHO - World Health Organization
      DFA - Department of Foreign Affairs
      IRR - The Implementing Rules and Regulations
      DOF - Department of Finance
      DHSUD - Department of Human Settlements and Urban Development
      ECQ - Enhanced Community Quarantine

      Additional kasi may mababasa kayo sa papel nito:

      BTr - Bureau of Treasury
      IAFT - Inter Agency Committee for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases



      This is not totally a summary of a whole report. I just picked critical points na close to us being involve. So, kung babasahin niyo as a whole (na may 22 pages) 'yong buong report more likely ang makikita niyong difference is mga already discussed na sa news Donations, Budget Plans na hindi ko na rin inilagay at baka ma-misinterpret ko. In addition, inilagay ko rin 'yong mga further move by governments, and agencies para hindi na rin tayo masuprised.

      Report source: https://www.facebook.com/PTVph/posts/3420751967985449

      P.S - If you still have critical points na gusto niyo ma-involve dito under sa report feel free to hit me up.
      P.S.S - May makikita kayo na part IV which is I did not included as well kasi it is just an another measures. More over 'yong critical points ay makikita na sa Part 1 - 3

      Credits to @Bttzed03 for bringing up 'yong link nung whole report.

      Quick update: ECQ extension been extend up to April 30 na sa recent decision by PRRD.[/list][/list]


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 06, 2020, 06:48:52 PM
      ~
      Quick update: ECQ extension been extend up to April 30 na sa recent decision by PRRD.
      Sa speech niya kanina, the word he used was "inclined" (wanting to/leaning towards). It's not yet final pero  sinasabi na niyang 99.99% mag-extend up to April 30. Maybe in the coming days, gagawin ng official.

      Sa mga gusto magbasa ng transcript ng speech ng Pangulo kanina, check this post by PCOO Asec Mon Cualoping (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10158246990817171&set=a.10158163916667171&type=3)

      Edit (April 7): Update on extended ECQ - I was listening to Sec. Nograles' virtual press briefing kanina ang they verified with the President after nung speech niya last night and Yes, extended na ang ECQ for Luzon until April 30, 2020.



      ~
      Nakasubaybay ako sa mga nangyayari about sa report na to at alam mo masyado nang tumatagal ang pag proseso ng mga bagay na to, given na mag iisang buwan na tayong under Quarantine and almost 2 weeks under Enhanced Quaratine e dapat naayudahan na nila agad ang mga tao. Ito dapat ang urgent na pinoproseso kasabay ng mga testing kits and centers.
      Not sure kung nabasa mo talaga yung progress report ng Gobyerno sa link na binigay ko or nag-base ka ng opinyon mo sa mga post ng mga ibang tao sa social media. Gumawa si @Rosilito ng summary sa itaas kung sakaling hindi mo basahin lahat ng pages.

      For a third world country kung saan hindi pa implemented ang National ID System (para sa mabilisang pangongolekta ng mga datos); may 1:33,000 healthcare personnel to population ratio; may maluwag na demokrasya at may mga grupong ayaw makiisa, sa tingin ko maganda pa din ang pinapakita ng Pamahalaan.
      • First two weeks ng ECQ, inatasan ang mga LGUs na ilabas ang kanilang mga Calamity at Quick Response Funds (QRF) at yung iba't iba pang Financial Assistance Program para tulungan ang mga mas nangangailangan. Simula ng third week, andyan naman ang Php200+ Billion Social Amelioration Program.
      • Nag-umpisa sa targetted testing dahil sa limited kits at equipments pero ngayon expanded testing na ng PUIs dahil dumating na mga karagdagang kagamitan. In one week, mass testing naman ng lahat ng PUIs at PUMs. May mga gusali na ding na-convert na/kasalukuyang inaayos para gamiting Quarantine Facilities

      For sure may mga naging pagkukulang pero mukhang mabilis namang inaayos. Daily nagkakaroon ng mga meetings para pagusapan yung mga hinaing ng mga kababayan natin at itama yung mga naunang pagkakamali. Kumbaga, patuloy ang adjustment.



      Pahabol:

      Starting April 7, a 24/7 telemedicine hotline will now be available for medical consultations. (https://web.facebook.com/OfficialDOHgov/photos/a.812487448762509/3206976669313563/)

      Hotlines:
      • 02-8424-COVID (02-8424-26843) and 1555
      • For NCR 02-8424-1724

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      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: AniviaBtc on April 07, 2020, 05:48:06 AM
      Right now, mas lalong tumataas ang cases ng COVID-19 sa bansa, at mas mabilis na Ang pagdami nito. Nakakabahala na pag mas lalo pa itong dumami ay baka hindi naito macontrol ng gobyerno at ng mga frontliners. Matatapos na ang ECQ pero mas lalo pang dumadami ang cases. Nakakatakot na pag once bumalik na ang lahat sa trabaho at eskwelahan habang hindi pa nakakahanap ng solution sa virus, mas lalong lalaki ito sa bansa.

      Papaano hindi tataas eh kung yung ibang mamamayan dito sa bansa natin, matitigas parin ang ulo, hindi parin nila sinusunod yung implemented Enhanced Community Quarantine(ECQ). Labas parin sila ng labas lalo na yung mga taong against doon sa gobyerno, totoo namang nagkukulang yung gobyerno dahil walang maayos na plano or kumbaga ay hindi sapat. Buhay naman nila yung nakasalalay kasi mataas yung risk na makakuha sila ng sakit lalo na't hindi mo agad malalaman kung sino sa mga nakakasalamuha mo yung infected. Matuto nalang sanang sumunod yung mga tao at sana rin yung gobyerno natin maging responsable at mas maging mabilis ang pagaksyon laban dito sa virus na to.


      Sinabi na rito na naextend na ang ECQ hanggang April 30.

      Duterte approves Luzon-wide community quarantine until April 30

      MANILA, Philippines (Update 2: 11:01 a.m.) — The enhanced community quarantine in Luzon is extended until April 30, Cabinet Secretary Karlo Nograles said Tuesday.

      In a late night address Monday, President Rodrigo Duterte’s late night address where he said the government is “inclined to extend the lockdown up to April 30.”

      Nograles, in a virtual briefing Tuesday morning, said that the president accepted the Inter-agency Task Force on the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases’ recommendation to extend the ECQ in Luzon.

      “Our [IATF’s] recommendation to President Duterte is accepted by the President, and he announced it last night,” Nograles said in a mix of English and Filipino.

      “We verified it and the answer was the ECQ is hereby extended until 11:59 p.m. until April 30,” he added.

      Nograles said the IATF passed two resolutions on Monday night. In Resolution No. 20, the IATF formally recommended “the extension of the implementation of the [ECQ] in the entirety of Luzon up to April 30, 2020” to the Office of the President.

      He added that the resolution noted that exemptions previously granted by the IATF and the Office of the President shall continue in the duration of the extended enhanced community quarantine.

      “Such extension of the ECQ shall be without prejudice to the discretion of the president to relax that implementation of the ECQ in some local jurisdictions or the ranting of exemptions in favor of certain sectors such as public health considerations and food security may warrant,” Nograles also said.

      Dahil nga naextend pa ang ECQ, mas tatagal pa ang pagsusuffer ng mga mahihirap na walang makain at hirap makadiskarte sa pang araw-araw na gastusin. Sana sa pagextend netong ECQ ay makagawa na sila ng konkretong plano para mabudget ng maayos yung pondo ng bansa laban sa virus na ito. Mabuti na rin yung sinuggest ni Nograles, na sa pagpatuloy na pagkalat ng Covid-19 mas magiging mabagal naman ito compared dun sa kapag bumalik na sa normal yung lahat.

      Tingin ko hinding hindi dapat bumalik sa pagttrabaho ang mga workers o sa pagaaral ang mga estudyante hangga't hindi pa nawawala itong virus. Maaari lang na maging normal ang lahat kapag nakapag imbento na ng vaccine yung mga scientist natin as soon as possible. Balewala rin kasi kapag


      Sa aming lugar (Valenzuela City) ay patuloy paring nadadagdagan ang cases kaya nakakatakot na din lumabas. Mayroon ng confirmed 19 positive cases at maraming PUI at PUM. However, thankful naman kasi maayos ang pamamahala sa amin ng aming LGU. Nabibigyan ang mga nangangailangan ng pagkain (kahit hindi pa lahat ay nabibigyan). Pero maganda na nakikita naman ang paggalaw ng LGU. Isa pang magandang balita sa aming lugar, magkakaroon ng mass testing para sa mga PUI, PUM, at mga frontliners sa Valenzuela na pinangunahan ng aming Mayor para mangyari.

      Nagupdate na ngayon yung Valenzuela City sa patuloy na pagdadag ng mga taong infected ng Covid-19 sa lugar nila.

      NEW UPDATE:
      JUST IN: We have an additional positive case of COVID-19 in Valenzuela City bringing our total to 33 as of April 7, 2020.

      VC33 is a 42-year-old male.

      Our Valenzuela City Epidemiology and Surveillance Unit (CESU) is monitoring all the confirmed cases and conducting contact tracing to the identified close contacts.

      https://scontent.fmnl3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/92023400_10159712605493378_7892939349220655104_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=eY-svEdhwHMAX_NpKzq&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl3-1.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=94fddba65b5a4eeef78a1b39cc79047c&oe=5EB1D124

      Karamihan dito puro may edad na 40+ yrs. old. kaya mas mainam na wag na nating palabasin yung mga kamag anak natin or if may kakilala tayong may mga edad na. Paalalahanan nalang natin silang magstay sa loob ng bahay imbis na lumabas pa. Hindi imposibleng tumaas pa sa 33 ang cases sa Valenzuela City dahil malamang ay may iba pang nakasalamuha ang mga bagong cases na naitala na yan. Lalo na yung mga kamaganak nila na laging nilang kasama sa bahay. Buti mabilis ang aksyon ng gobyerno sa Valenzuela na lagi nila inaupdate ang mga mamamayan sa kanilang lugar ukol sa Covid-19.

      Sources: https://www.facebook.com/100985303377/posts/10159712605703378/
                   https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/04/07/2006056/duterte-approves-luzon-wide-community-quarantine-until-april-30




      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on April 07, 2020, 06:46:09 AM
      ...
      Parang diving apparatus ung self breathing device ah, legit ba yan? Anyways as of this moment parami na ng parami ang bilang ng cases sa Pilipinas, parami na din ng parami ang bilang ng mga pasaway, mga nag iiskandalo na kesyo mamamtay na sila sa gutom. Hunyeta ako nga isang beses kumain sa isang araw minsan wala pa di pa ko namamatay, tubig lang. Medyo OA tlaga ang mga pinoy pagdating sa mga ganyan walang kadiska-diskarte.

      Lahat nakaasa sa Gobyerno tapos puro naman batikos, puro reklamo, ok sana kung bumabatikos ka pero hindi ka umaasa sa mga relief goods at kung ano ano pa. Mema. Kung sino pa malakas kumuda sila ung malakas din ngumawa sa patuka.

      Yung asawa ko may pasok na sila by 13, nakakabahala at nakakainis pero wala magagawa dahil kailangan magbukas ng mga bangko.  Hindi maikakaila na malaki ang posibilidiad sa hawaan pero sana lang talaga matapos na ang hawaan at ng saganon tumigil na at makaahon tayo.

      Ayaw ko din mahawaan ang asawa ko kaya hnggat sa maari nirerequest ko na umabsent muna kaso nganga mas angat si waifu... Haist buhay. ****** dehuta din kasi mga pinoy eh mga tanga. Legit.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on April 07, 2020, 07:57:44 AM
      Habang patuloy na tumataas ang cases dito sa Pilipinas, mas lumalabong matapos ang quarantine. Hindi kasi pwede na tapusin ang ECQ habang dumadami ang cases kasi mas lalo itong dadami. Kailangan lang talaga natin manatili sa bahay as much as we can para hindi na magkaroon ng new cases. Oo, mahirap manatili sa bahay kasi kailangan bumili ng pagkain. Pero dapat doble doble ingat tayo sa ating pag labas.

      Pero instead na punuin nating ang thread na ito ng negativity and stress, set aside muna natin yan and here are some mental health tips from philstar.


      I know sobrang stressful isipin ang mga problemang idinulot ng COVID-19. Pero to keep ourselves healthy, (1) let's focus on what we can control. Wag tayong masyadong mag overthink sa mga bagay bagay. (2) yung social media ay pwede ding magdulot satin ng stress and negativity dahil sa mga news na nababasa natin, kaya limit lang natin ang ating sarili. (3) Sundin ang ating regular routines, as long as hindi tayo lalabas ng bahay. In this case, hindi natin masyadong iisipin na stuck tayo sa bahay or bored. (4) syempre kailangan yung maging healthy ka din physically. Palakasin ang immune system laban sa virus. (5) Para less ang worry sa mga mahal natin sa buhay na hindi muna natin makikita, mag keep in touch sa kanila. (6) Kung kaya mo or nakakaluwag luwag, sikapin nating makatulong sa nangangailangan even in a smallest way we can do. (7) if you're feeling something or unwell, consult to your doctor.

      In these simple ways, at least we can keep ourselves healthy. I can't say na let's think positive all time, pero dapat iwasan din natin masyado ang negativity para hindi madala.


      Source:
      Code:
      https://twitter.com/PhilstarNews/status/1247404066302386178


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on April 07, 2020, 10:48:40 AM
      Habang patuloy na tumataas ang cases dito sa Pilipinas, mas lumalabong matapos ang quarantine. Hindi kasi pwede na tapusin ang ECQ habang dumadami ang cases kasi mas lalo itong dadami.
      Actually hindi dapat tapusin ang quarantine hanggat may case ng Covid, tulad na lang sa china not unless na sigurado ang buong lipunan na wala ng threat tsaka palang babalik sa normal. kung kaya naman mabilis silang nakarecover dahil walang mga reklamador sa kanila na di tulad satin ay may nagpoprotesta pa, lalo na ung mga kabataang nagrally? jusko nakakapanggigil talaga mga bobo, naturingang mga nagaaral sa mga unibersidad ganun ang mga utak.

      Dapat iextend na ng lubos ang quarantine hangang sa maubos ang case ng COVID dito, dahil pag pinagsa walang bahala natin toh mauubos tayo, sabi nga ni PRD "it might not really cripple a country" ... might... then it means may chance, lalo na maraming matatanda dito sa pinas at halos karamihan hindi ganun kalakas mga resistensya. mauubos tayo sa totoo lang. kahit mga inosente madadamay. Nakakainis lang talaga dahil sa kamangmangan, katangahan, kabobohan ng PINOY lumalala ang sitwasyon.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on April 07, 2020, 12:14:37 PM
      a little off-topic post but I hope it's okay since this news is saying that utility bills for March are now free due to COVID-19.

      you might come across this(photo below) on your Facebook newsfeed and you might believe that it might be true but it's not. according to rappler it's FAKE NEWS! it also has been confirmed by the two utility company that the news spreading around is fake. Article (https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/fact-check/257111-meralco-maynilad-waive-march-2020-billings)
      https://i.imgur.com/XQvC5FQ.jpg


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 08, 2020, 02:59:23 AM
      I was going to share the facebook page/blog "Magtanong sa DILG" which was created para sana makatulong sa concerns ng mga kababayan natin sa panahong ito pero na-takedown siya. I'm not sure kung inalis ng page owner (unlikely) or mass reported (most likely). Mukhang may mga grupo pa din na gusto mag-control ng information na mababasa at maririnig natin kaya be more discerning sa mga mababasa natin.



      We are manufacturing.

      A group of private businesses have stepped up to help the fight against COVID-19 - Palace: Local garments, textile exporters to produce 10,000 PPE sets per day after Holy Week (https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/06/palace-local-garments-textile-exporters-to-produce-10000-ppe-sets-per-day-after-holy-week/)

      Quote
      Last week po, inannounce ng DOH (Department of Health) na may 1,000,000 na PPE na available na para sa ating mga frontliners (Last week the DOH announced there will be one million PPE available for our frontliners). Pero aside po (But aside) from these newly-procured PPE, the DTI has announced that member-companies of the Confederation of Wearable Exporters of the Philippines will now start the local production of medical-grade PPE coveralls for healthcare workers,” he said during a virtual press conference Monday.

      “Raw materials for these will be shipped in by this week and the roll out of production at the garment factories will immediately start after the Holy Week. Once operational, these factories will be able to produce 10,000 PPE a day,” he added

      Malaking bagay ito lalo na para hindi na tayo mag-rely masyado sa mga imports. May mga lumalabas na balitang nagkaka-agawan ngayon ang ibang bansa ng mga masks at protective gears na manufactured/produced sa China.



      Follow up on the converted Quarantine facilities:
      • Handa na ang converted Quarantine facility sa Ninoy Aquino Stadium (112 bed capacity) - story (https://www.facebook.com/TheBCDAGroup/videos/868894296869729/)
      • Tapos na din yung sa PICC (294 bed capacity) - story (https://www.facebook.com/dpwhph/posts/2839502166163250)
      • Next in line ay yung sa World Trade Center (502 bed capacity), Philippine Arena, National Government Administrative Center sa New Clark City, at ASEAN Convention Center sa Clark

      Paglilinaw lang na ang mga tatanggapin na mga pasyente ay yung may mild symptoms at mga asymptomatic.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: finaleshot2016 on April 08, 2020, 06:52:37 PM
      COVID-19 FUNDRAISING ACTIVITY OF ENGINEERING RAMBULAN

      Nakakaproud i-share 'tong good news na naging part din ako dahil nakapagdonate din ako ng natitira kong pera sa Gcash. Nakita ko lang 'tong group na 'to dahil may nag-invite lang sa akin dahil nakakaaliw ang mga mababasa dito.

      A group of engineers/engineering people ay nagawang makalikom ng 1,080,629 pesos sa isang facebook group na Engineering Rambulan.
      Ang nalikom na pera ay igagastos para sa mga PPE at idodonate sa iba't ibang hospital sa Luzon.


      It's very inspiring na nagsimula ito sa isang facebook group na puro trashtalk lang ang alam at nauwi sa Fund Raising Activity. It means hindi lahat ng tao ay puro kalokohan lang ang alam, kapag may nag-initiate, talagang tutulong ang lahat.

      Mga hospital na nabigyan na ng donations:
      • Lung Center of the Philippines
      • Manila Doctors Philippines
      • Philippine Children's Medial Center
      • Philippine General Hospital
      • Rizal Medical Center
      • Bagong Cainta Hospital
      • Dr. Jose N. Rodriguez Memorial Hospital
      • San Larazo Hospital
      [1] View recent activities...... (https://www.facebook.com/tnayrb19/posts/3016429221753009)
      [2] View recent activities...... (https://www.facebook.com/tnayrb19/posts/3020502468012351)

      If gusto niyong mag-donate sa Engineering Rambulan.


      #EngineeringRambulan
      #MillionThanksEngineers
      #EngineeringBayanihan


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Theb on April 08, 2020, 09:22:50 PM
      "Philippines joins world in search for possible treatment for COVID-19"

      PLASMA TRANSFUSION

      Last week, the Philippine General Hospital issued a call for COVID-19 survivors to donate blood or plasma. Plasma from donors, who will go through thorough screening, will be used to help treat patients with severe and critical symptoms of COVID-19.

      Dr. Jonas Del Rosario, PGH spokesperson, told ABS-CBN News that convalescent plasma therapy has long been used during epidemics as a way to bring in antibodies from recovered patients to those still battling the disease.

      The World Health Organization (WHO) has also supported the treatment, which has been used for illnesses that do not have a vaccine yet.

      “You are essentially giving the new victim's immune system a boost of antibodies to hopefully get them through the very difficult phase,” Dr. Mike Ryan, head of WHO's health emergencies program, said in February.

      I think this is a big step up when it comes to treating Filipinos affected by COVID-19, bukod sa pag-aasa sa mga regular treatment and medicines na binibigay ng doktor bibigyan sila ng bagong antibodies para maboost yung immune system nila. Although this isn't a cure pero sana makatulong ito when it comes to recoveries and mabawasan na din yung mga namamatay sa sakit na ito, dahil binigyan na din tayo ng greenlight ng WHO para dito sa tingin ko magwowork-out naman ito para sa mga kapwa natin. Aside from plasma transfusion may ibang tinetesting din sila which is coconut oil and chloroquine sa mga pasyente, lets just hope ito din ay makakatulong sakanila.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 09, 2020, 01:42:48 PM
      An update from the DOH COVID-19 tracker (https://www.facebook.com/OfficialDOHgov/photos/a.157979910879936/3213878868623343/):

      For those who are monitoring the official Philippine nCOV tracker, the website will be down until April 11 because they are in the process of encoding all of their backlogs. I'm not sure why it's going to take that long but it's better that they do to give us complete and updated information.



      Warning from the FDA (https://www.facebook.com/FDAPhilippines/posts/2973759626013405):

      In case you are seeing posts on social media by some individuals/groups claiming they have the cure for COVID-19, please be careful of these misleading posts. There is no known vaccine/drug yet and they are just trying to profit from the desperation and fear of the public.

      I'm all for taking in FDA approved food supplements to strengthen our body's immune system and help fight any virus but no one should claim or make it appear that it's the cure for COVID-19.



      Singapore was praised by WHO and by many countries on how they handled the pandemic. Some of our citizens are even suggesting that our government should follow their lead. Well, their government also implemented a one month lockdown because they can no longer contain the second wave of infection coming from local transmissions.

      .... Confronted with a sudden surge in new cases, almost all of them contracted locally, the government has decided to adopt much more stringent measures to slow the spread of the virus. On April 7th all but essential businesses closed, with Singaporeans allowed out of their homes only to buy food and medicine, to exercise and get their hair cut. The “circuit-breaker”, as the government calls it, will remain in place for at least a month. Those who violate a new law banning public and private gatherings risk a $7,000 fine, a six-month stint in prison or both. Even Singapore is no longer able to preserve a semblance of normality.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: finaleshot2016 on April 10, 2020, 05:01:10 AM

      Nag-release ng tally ang EarthShaker (https://www.facebook.com/earthshakerph) ng mga bansa sa ASEAN or Association of Southeast Asian Nations na may pinakamaraming cases ng COVID-19. Kasama na rin sa tally na ito ang deaths and recovery at nakakabahala lang dahil pangalawa tayo sa maraming cases at pangalawa rin sa pinakamaraming namatay unlike sa Malaysia na ang recoveries is almost 1/4 ng confirmed cases.

      ASEAN COVID-19 TOTAL:
      Cases: 16,538
      Deaths: 529
      Recoveries: 3,668

      My conclusion to this tally, sobrang baba ng ating recovery rate unlike sa mga kalapit na bansa. IMO, hindi pwede na ito lang ang pagbasehan natin dahil mas maganda ang record na may inclusion ng rate of population at mga na-test para malaman natin ang pagkakaiba and also PUM & PUI sa bawat bansa. Tho, big amount of deaths in our country really shows na hindi masyadong handled ng DOH at di tayo ready sa mga situation na ganito. I think this is the effect ng pagbabawas ng funds para sa department of health which is obviously sobrang importante dahil sa panahon ngayon, anytime pwede na magkaroon ng mga panibago at iba't ibang sakit.

      • List of population in ASEAN countries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ASEAN_countries_by_GDP)

      If baka may magtanong kung wala ang East Timor, hindi official member states ng ASEAN.
      • East Timor not part of ASEAN (https://www.quora.com/Is-East-Timor-a-member-of-ASEAN)

      Source:
      [1] EarthShaker (https://www.facebook.com/earthshakerph)
      [2] Worldometers CoronaVirus (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 10, 2020, 07:22:11 AM
      ~
      My conclusion to this tally, sobrang baba ng ating recovery rate unlike sa mga kalapit na bansa. IMO, hindi pwede na ito lang ang pagbasehan natin dahil mas maganda ang record na may inclusion ng rate of population at mga na-test para malaman natin ang pagkakaiba and also PUM & PUI sa bawat bansa. Tho, big amount of deaths in our country really shows na hindi masyadong handled ng DOH at di tayo ready sa mga situation na ganito. I think this is the effect ng pagbabawas ng funds para sa department of health which is obviously sobrang importante dahil sa panahon ngayon, anytime pwede na magkaroon ng mga panibago at iba't ibang sakit.
      The "unpreparedness" was not the effect of a budget cut. The initial proposal for the 2020 budget was lower than that of 2019 but the approved budget was actually higher.
      • 2019 approved budget: Php 165.92 billion; 2020 Approved/Signed - Php 172.37 billion (source) (https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/238933-where-will-money-go-2020-budget)
      • 2020 proposed budget - Php 166.5 billion (source) (https://www.dbm.gov.ph/images/pdffiles/2020-Budget-at-a-Glance-Proposed.pdf)

      I think there were major boosts/improvements in our healthcare system since this current administration took over but it's still not ready to take on a global pandemic like COVID-19. We can also assume that our medical experts had underestimated this virus but, to be fair, almost every country did and many of them had a better healthcare system than us.

      With the increasing daily testing capacity, with more quarantine facilities being built and with more protective gears & medical equipment being bought/manufactured/donated, hopefully we can flatten the curve even further and lessen the number of casualties.  


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 10, 2020, 08:14:00 AM
      One of the famous Mayor on Metro Manila Isko Moreno will be giving out a lot of rice subsidies sa mga kababayan natin check out the news. This is one thing Filipinos are expecting from our Politicians.


      At least 571,000 families will receive rice subsidies from the Manila City government next week amid the COVID-19 crisis.

      In a statement, Manila Mayor Isko Moreno announced that 50,000 sacks for rice, which is equivalent to 2.5 million kilos of rice, are ready for distribution to the families affected by the enhanced community quarantine.

      "We are trying to stock up on basic goods, particularly rice, so we entered into a contract with [the] National Food Authority about two weeks ago. This is going to be delivered by next week in their respective barangays,” Moreno said during the inspection of sacks at Pritil Market.

      The Manila Mayor said at least three kilograms of rice will be given to each family.

      “But it is better na [may] sobra para maakap namin hangga’t maaari ang lahat,” he added.

      As of April 10, the Manila city government has distributed food packs to at least 235,000 families.

      In addition, the Manila city government has also earmarked a P571-million budget for the City Amelioration Crisis Assistance Fund (CACAF)  which grants P1,000 cash aid to each of 500,000 families residing in the city’s 896 barangays. 


      Source:

      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/metro/733477/571-000-families-in-manila-set-to-receive-rice-subsidy-next-week-says-isko/story/?amp&__twitter_impression=true


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: mk4 on April 10, 2020, 02:41:21 PM
      One of the famous Mayor on Metro Manila Isko Moreno will be giving out a lot of rice subsidies sa mga kababayan natin check out the news. This is one thing Filipinos are expecting from our Politicians.

      I wonder how much giving out the government can do left before there wouldn't be much funds left though(alam naman natin kung gaano sila kalakas kumupit). Taking into consideration ung mejo recent address ni pangulong Duterts.

      Full Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/cnnphilippines/status/1247163893387911168
      Unrolled version: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1247163893387911168.html


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 10, 2020, 03:08:35 PM
      One of the famous Mayor on Metro Manila Isko Moreno will be giving out a lot of rice subsidies sa mga kababayan natin check out the news. This is one thing Filipinos are expecting from our Politicians.

      I wonder how much giving out the government can do left before there wouldn't be much funds left though(alam naman natin kung gaano sila kalakas kumupit). Taking into consideration ung mejo recent address ni pangulong Duterts.
      ~

      The money from the local and national government will eventually run out soon. Both Mayor Isko and President Duterte knows that and that is why they keep addressing the public (with desperation in their voice) to follow ECQ protocols strictly to contain the virus as fast as possible. Asking help form the private sector and realigning the 2020 budget are only temporary measures but If we don't kick start the economy in the next month or two, I think we will be in big trouble.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: mk4 on April 10, 2020, 04:07:56 PM
      The money from the local and national government will eventually run out soon. Both Mayor Isko and President Duterte knows that and that is why they keep addressing the public (with desperation in their voice) to follow ECQ protocols strictly to contain the virus as fast as possible. Asking help form the private sector and realigning the 2020 budget are only temporary measures but If we don't kick start the economy in the next month or two, I think we will be in big trouble.

      While I definitely hope not, various cities going all-out looting à la battle royale is slowly but surely being possible. Remember what happened to Tacloban after Typhoon Haiyan? That, but potentially nationwide when the government runs out of funds. The idea in itself is scary as hell. I need a gun lol.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bisdak40 on April 10, 2020, 10:41:28 PM
      <.....snip.....>

      While I definitely hope not, various cities going all-out looting à la battle royale is slowly but surely being possible. Remember what happened to Tacloban after Typhoon Haiyan? That, but potentially nationwide when the government runs out of funds. The idea in itself is scary as hell. I need a gun lol.

      That's incident in Tacloban is different because the people were not looting for food. Ninanakaw nila lahat ng kanilang nakikita at sa tingin nila mapapakinabangan but scary as hell din ang tagpong yon. Resulta kasi yon sa bagal ng gobyerno sa pag-control sa isang lugar.

      Dito sa amin, ECQ din pero hindi ko pa naman nakikita ang mga tao na nagrereklamo dahil wala ng makain. Kung lahat ng sektor kung magtutulungan at hindi lang iasa lahat sa gobyerno, i think mas madali nating ma-contain itong virus na ito.

      Tingin ko lang to ha, mukhang nasobrahan sa pamolitika ang Metro Manila sa pagsugpo sa crisis na to. Pinapahirapan ng makaliwa at oposisyon ang gobyerno.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: finaleshot2016 on April 10, 2020, 10:44:53 PM
      ~
      My conclusion to this tally, sobrang baba ng ating recovery rate unlike sa mga kalapit na bansa. IMO, hindi pwede na ito lang ang pagbasehan natin dahil mas maganda ang record na may inclusion ng rate of population at mga na-test para malaman natin ang pagkakaiba and also PUM & PUI sa bawat bansa. Tho, big amount of deaths in our country really shows na hindi masyadong handled ng DOH at di tayo ready sa mga situation na ganito. I think this is the effect ng pagbabawas ng funds para sa department of health which is obviously sobrang importante dahil sa panahon ngayon, anytime pwede na magkaroon ng mga panibago at iba't ibang sakit.
      The "unpreparedness" was not the effect of a budget cut. The initial proposal for the 2020 budget was lower than that of 2019 but the approved budget was actually higher.
      • 2019 approved budget: Php 165.92 billion; 2020 Approved/Signed - Php 172.37 billion (source) (https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/238933-where-will-money-go-2020-budget)
      • 2020 proposed budget - Php 166.5 billion (source) (https://www.dbm.gov.ph/images/pdffiles/2020-Budget-at-a-Glance-Proposed.pdf)

      I think there were major boosts/improvements in our healthcare system since this current administration took over but it's still not ready to take on a global pandemic like COVID-19
      Sa budget na yan, hindi ba included yung PhilHealth diyan? Definitely, Malaki ang mababawas sa 172.37 billion and di natin sure kung nag-eexist pa yung pera na yan. The cut in the budget has a huge impact, makakapagprovide sana tayo ng mas maraming equipments for testing, additional quarantine rooms, medical supplies and such that will help to prevent the increasing amount of deaths here. Okay ng dumami ang cases, it means the government is tracing all of those PUI and PUM para hindi na mag-spread pa yung novel coronavirus, huwag lang dumami ang death cases sa ating bansa.

      I've noticed na some of the PPEs and testing kits ay donation pa from the other countries.
      • DFA receives COVID-19 test kits, PPEs donated by China (https://globalnation.inquirer.net/186227/dfa-receives-covid-19-test-kits-ppes-donated-by-china)
      • Singapore donates 40K COVID-19 test kits to PH (https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/29/singapore-donation-covid-19-test-kits.html)
      • Singapore to donate 3,000 coronavirus test kits to PH (https://www.rappler.com/nation/255464-singapore-donates-coronavirus-test-kits-philippines-march-2020)
      Even the founder of Alibaba, Jack Ma, who donated a lot of testing kits.
      • Jack Ma’s COVID-19 testing kits, face masks donation arrives in PH (https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/27/jack-ma-covid-testing-kits-face-masks-arrives-in-ph.html)
      We can also assume that our medical experts had underestimated this virus but, to be fair, almost every country did and many of them had a better healthcare system than us. With the increasing daily testing capacity, with more quarantine facilities being built and with more protective gears & medical equipment being bought/manufactured/donated, hopefully we can flatten the curve even further and lessen the number of casualties.  
      I doubt they underestimated the virus outbreak, as news arrived, all the people, particularly those in the medical profession, asked for an early travel ban because they knew the system's vulnerabilities and incapabilities. We're lucky that we have a lot of quality hospitals like Makati Medical Center (MMC) that discharges many recovered COVID-19 patients so far. On the other hand, many frontliners died already due to a lack of PPEs and medical equipment.

      Even though it's too late, I'm still hoping for positive outcomes and let's pray for all those people that act truly to recover as a coronavirus-free country. Also hoping na matapos na talaga para wala ng extension ng ECQ ang mangyari dahil sobrang daming apektado sa ECQ na na-implement.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 11, 2020, 04:18:16 AM
      ~
      Sa budget na yan, hindi ba included yung PhilHealth diyan? Definitely, Malaki ang mababawas sa 172.37 billion and di natin sure kung nag-eexist pa yung pera na yan. The cut in the budget has a huge impact, makakapagprovide sana tayo ng mas maraming equipments for testing, additional quarantine rooms, medical supplies and such that will help to prevent the increasing amount of deaths here. Okay ng dumami ang cases, it means the government is tracing all of those PUI and PUM para hindi na mag-spread pa yung novel coronavirus, huwag lang dumami ang death cases sa ating bansa.
      Here's a simple breakdown of the 2019 and 2020 approved budget for our healthcare:

      2019's Php 165.92 billion approved budget (source) (https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/229539-winners-losers-national-budget-philippines-2019):
      • DOH - 98.57 billion
      • Philhealth - 67.35 billion

      2020's Php 172.37 billion approved budget:
      • DOH - 101.02 billion
      • Philhealth - 71.35 billion
      As you can see, there was no budget cut in the total funds (both for DOH and Philhealth). There changes with the allocation of the funds within our healthcare sector but I don't think there's a need to discuss that in detail.

      I've noticed na some of the PPEs and testing kits ay donation pa from the other countries.
      ~
      Yup, any help we can get is needed. Donations must be one of the perks of being a third world country lol.
      The good thing is that test kits made from UP has been approved by the FDA for commercial use (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1253582/fda-approves-up-developed-covid-19-test-kits-for-commercial-use). Some sectors have also agreed to manufacture PPE sets locally (https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/06/palace-local-garments-textile-exporters-to-produce-10000-ppe-sets-per-day-after-holy-week/). Those are huge steps for us because we can't rely on donations and importations forever.

      ~
      I doubt they underestimated the virus outbreak, as news arrived, all the people, particularly those in the medical profession, asked for an early travel ban because they knew the system's vulnerabilities and incapabilities.
      One instance why I said they underestimated the virus - In Philippines, still no need to use face masks vs 2019-nCoV: DOH official (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/01/29/20/in-philippines-still-no-need-to-use-face-masks-vs-2019-ncov-doh-official)

      There was another where I read DOH claimed it's not airborne but later studies suggests it is.

      ~
      While I definitely hope not, various cities going all-out looting à la battle royale is slowly but surely being possible. Remember what happened to Tacloban after Typhoon Haiyan? That, but potentially nationwide when the government runs out of funds. The idea in itself is scary as hell. I need a gun lol.
      Yeah, nobody wants those kind of events from happening again. That's why I appreciate what the Government did in prioritizing the low-income households. Not even our armed forces can control them once they get hungry, go out on the streets, and start rioting.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: mk4 on April 11, 2020, 07:27:35 AM
      That's incident in Tacloban is different because the people were not looting for food. Ninanakaw nila lahat ng kanilang nakikita at sa tingin nila mapapakinabangan but scary as hell din ang tagpong yon. Resulta kasi yon sa bagal ng gobyerno sa pag-control sa isang lugar.
      They were obviously also looting for food.

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-typhoon/desperate-philippine-typhoon-survivors-loot-dig-up-water-pipes-idUSBRE9A603Q20131113
      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/regions/334750/looting-reported-in-tacloban-in-aftermath-of-yolanda/story/


      Dito sa amin, ECQ din pero hindi ko pa naman nakikita ang mga tao na nagrereklamo dahil wala ng makain. Kung lahat ng sektor kung magtutulungan at hindi lang iasa lahat sa gobyerno, i think mas madali nating ma-contain itong virus na ito.
      Yes, so far syempre kokonti palang talaga ang magrereklamo since may resources pa. The problem arises when kokonti nalang ang natirang resources. April 11 palang, April 30 pa ang end ng ECQ; and that's assuming na hindi pa ma-extend ulit. Maraming pwedeng mangyari sa loob ng 19 days knowing na anglaki pa man din ng population ng mahihirap.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on April 11, 2020, 07:54:26 AM
      I was looking for news about COVID-19 kaninang umaga at nabasa ko sa isang balita na ang virus ay kayang umabot hanggang 13 feet mag mula sa infected patient. Ang ipinapatupad natin ngayon na social distancing ay nasusukat lamang sa 2 meters, which is twice ng distancing guidelines natin ang kayang maabot ng virus.

      Although magmula sa distance na ito, hindi naman daw infectious ang small quantities ng droplets mula sa infected person, mahirap pa rin makasiguro. Mas prone na dumikit ang virus sa mga bagay na madalas hinahawakan ng tak tulad ng computer mouse, trashcan, doorknob and more.

      Source:
      Code:
      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/scitech/science/733563/coronavirus-found-in-air-samples-up-to-13-feet-from-patients/story/


      Isa pang kumakalat ngayon sa social media, ang pag send ng link nasinasabing may 2 months free Netflix daw dahil ngayong may corona virus.

      https://i.postimg.cc/JnQhxhqX/image.png
              photo not mine

      Nagbabala naman ang iilan na huwag magpaniwala sa kumakalat na link na ito at wag itong pipindutin dahil maaaring makuha ang atin personal information. Alam nating marami na ang bored at naghahanap ng pagkakaabalahan habang lockdown. Yung ibang gusto manood pero walang Netflix account, sila ang most likely na mahulog sa ganitong panloloko. Kaya mag iingat parin tayo. Sabihan ang mga kakilala tungkol dito. Kaninang umaga lang, may mga iilan na din akong natanggap na ganyang link pero hindi ko nalang pinapansin.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Maus0728 on April 11, 2020, 09:23:23 AM
      Quote
      Coronavirus found in air samples up to 13 feet from patients

      * WASHINGTON — A new study examining air samples from hospital wards with COVID-19 patients has found the virus can travel up to 13 feet (four meters) — twice the distance current guidelines say people should leave between themselves in public.

      Airborne threat?

      * The team also looked at so-called aerosol transmission — when the droplets of the virus are so fine they become suspended and remain airborne for several hours, unlike cough or sneeze droplets that fall to the ground within seconds.

      * US health authorities have adopted a more cautious line and urged people to cover their faces when out in public in case the virus can be transmitted through normal breathing and speaking.


      Good Day Everyone,

      I would like to give everyone a warning that there is a new found research that COVID-19 is now becoming an airborne virus which can increase the transamission rate between people.

      Well, this is very alarming because if the disease is mutating at kayang tumagal within few hours sa hangin, it would be very hard to control. This is becoming more dangerous and its getting even worse than ever.

      This is for us to take the precautions seriously or else we will suffer from a draconian event in our life. Otherwise, there is a greater chance that we are all dead meat.

      Imagine if our health workers will decline in numbers, chances are the infected will not be cured, the total lockdown will extend and eventually we'll go outside because we are running out of foods, medicines and other basic necessities in order to survive, thus increasing our chances to get infected.

      For more information about the news: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1256916/coronavirus-found-in-air-samples-up-to-13-feet-from-patients?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1586561749


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: fourpiece on April 11, 2020, 12:15:13 PM
      I was looking for news about COVID-19 kaninang umaga at nabasa ko sa isang balita na ang virus ay kayang umabot hanggang 13 feet mag mula sa infected patient. Ang ipinapatupad natin ngayon na social distancing ay nasusukat lamang sa 2 meters, which is twice ng distancing guidelines natin ang kayang maabot ng virus.

      Although magmula sa distance na ito, hindi naman daw infectious ang small quantities ng droplets mula sa infected person, mahirap pa rin makasiguro. Mas prone na dumikit ang virus sa mga bagay na madalas hinahawakan ng tak tulad ng computer mouse, trashcan, doorknob and more.

      Source:
      Code:
      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/scitech/science/733563/coronavirus-found-in-air-samples-up-to-13-feet-from-patients/story/


      Isa pang kumakalat ngayon sa social media, ang pag send ng link nasinasabing may 2 months free Netflix daw dahil ngayong may corona virus.

      https://i.postimg.cc/JnQhxhqX/image.png
              photo not mine

      Nagbabala naman ang iilan na huwag magpaniwala sa kumakalat na link na ito at wag itong pipindutin dahil maaaring makuha ang atin personal information. Alam nating marami na ang bored at naghahanap ng pagkakaabalahan habang lockdown. Yung ibang gusto manood pero walang Netflix account, sila ang most likely na mahulog sa ganitong panloloko. Kaya mag iingat parin tayo. Sabihan ang mga kakilala tungkol dito. Kaninang umaga lang, may mga iilan na din akong natanggap na ganyang link pero hindi ko nalang pinapansin.
      trending sa fb to kaninang umaga , dami ata nahack n account dahil naclick nila ung link. Naengganyo cguro cla lalo ung mga naghahanap ng mapaglilibangan n ang gusto movie marathon. Marami n nman magsisilabasan na scandal sa mga nahack ang fb.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on April 11, 2020, 01:43:45 PM
      ~
      Sa budget na yan, hindi ba included yung PhilHealth diyan? Definitely, Malaki ang mababawas sa 172.37 billion and di natin sure kung nag-eexist pa yung pera na yan. The cut in the budget has a huge impact, makakapagprovide sana tayo ng mas maraming equipments for testing, additional quarantine rooms, medical supplies and such that will help to prevent the increasing amount of deaths here. Okay ng dumami ang cases, it means the government is tracing all of those PUI and PUM para hindi na mag-spread pa yung novel coronavirus, huwag lang dumami ang death cases sa ating bansa.
      Here's a simple breakdown of the 2019 and 2020 approved budget for our healthcare:

      2019's Php 165.92 billion approved budget (source) (https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/229539-winners-losers-national-budget-philippines-2019):
      • DOH - 98.57 billion
      • Philhealth - 67.35 billion

      2020's Php 172.37 billion approved budget:
      • DOH - 101.02 billion
      • Philhealth - 71.35 billion
      As you can see, there was no budget cut in the total funds (both for DOH and Philhealth). There changes with the allocation of the funds within our healthcare sector but I don't think there's a need to discuss that in detail.
      I don't think na pakikialaman yan besides there are also people that has different kind of illnesses aside from COVID-19 na mangangailangan ng budget na yan I think they need to have a plan what other branches ng government ang pwedeng i-cut ang budget.

      <....>
      Hoping we will not be on that situation and bless those who fight this pandemic and always keep them strong. This is our fight as well.



      Just seen this on my news feed and this health professional want to talk to the President about the possible antiviral injection. Click the link of the video below.

      https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=585162815421023&id=323575494913091


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on April 11, 2020, 02:41:08 PM
      That's incident in Tacloban is different because the people were not looting for food. Ninanakaw nila lahat ng kanilang nakikita at sa tingin nila mapapakinabangan but scary as hell din ang tagpong yon. Resulta kasi yon sa bagal ng gobyerno sa pag-control sa isang lugar.
      They were obviously also looting for food.

      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-typhoon/desperate-philippine-typhoon-survivors-loot-dig-up-water-pipes-idUSBRE9A603Q20131113
      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/regions/334750/looting-reported-in-tacloban-in-aftermath-of-yolanda/story/

      Probably the biggest difference sa pangyayari sa naganap between doon sa Tacloban at sa possibility ngayon is hindi kasi biglaan 'yong pagkawala unlike noon na all of a sudden 'yong pagkaubos and take into consideration pa 'yong mabagal na pagpapasok nung tulong. Talagang mawawala sa tamang pag-iisip 'yong mga victims kesyo need nila makuha ito, makakain, and maka-survive above all else. In comparison naman sa possible mangyari ngayon na dahan dahan lang 'yong approach papunta doon sa circumstance tulad noon. What's worse is that mas wide 'yong area ng kaguluhan kung mangyari man, pero I hope not (dami ko pa ambitions yet to obtain).

      Bali 'yong statement ko na mention here:
      Quote
      Dito sa amin, ECQ din pero hindi ko pa naman nakikita ang mga tao na nagrereklamo dahil wala ng makain. Kung lahat ng sektor kung magtutulungan at hindi lang iasa lahat sa gobyerno, i think mas madali nating ma-contain itong virus na ito.
      Yes, so far syempre kokonti palang talaga ang magrereklamo since may resources pa. The problem arises when kokonti nalang ang natirang resources. April 11 palang, April 30 pa ang end ng ECQ; and that's assuming na hindi pa ma-extend ulit. Maraming pwedeng mangyari sa loob ng 19 days knowing na anglaki pa man din ng population ng mahihirap.
      Wala pa sa kalagitnaan 'yong ECQ for this month pero may mangilanngilan na nagrereklamo paano pa kung totally out of stock na, or kung meron man baka maging exclusive pa 'yon sa mga privilege corrupt, and feeling entitled na gobyerno natin na hindi rin malabong mangyari parang katulad lang nung ginawa nila sa testing kits na mayroon lang tayo noon.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 12, 2020, 12:59:06 PM
      @mk4, OP need updating. The new website for tracking COVID-19 cases in the Philippines is now
      Code:
      https://www.doh.gov.ph/covid19tracker

      Interesting data as of April 11, 2020.

      Total tests done: 38,640
      Unique individuals tested: 33,814
      No. of positive cases: 4,913
      No. of negative cases: 28,870

      I'm still confused why the positive cases tested (4,913) differs from total confirmed (4,648) as reported. I'm not sure if it means the other labs who made their tests are not yet certified by RITM/DOH.

      https://i.postimg.cc/ZnZTgBQ8/Untitled.png




      I also read that they will no longer use PUI and PUM to classify COVID-19 patients but will use Suspect, Probable, Confirmed instead.  According to them, the change was done to have uniform reporting of cases.

      • Suspect - those who have mild, severe, or critical symptoms but have not undergone testing yet.

        Quote
        A suspect case has influenza-like illness such as 38 degrees Celsius body temperature, has cough or sore throat, has difficulty in breathing, and experienced sudden lung problems from undetermined cause.

        A suspect case also has travel history to a place or country with local transmission of COVID-19 within 14 days before the symptoms have shown and has close contact with a confirmed or probable COVID-19 individual.

        Suspect cases can be those who are 60 years old and above, have heart illnesses, delicate pregnancy, and health workers.
      • Probable - those have mild, severe, or critical symptoms that have undergone testing but the results are not yet certain or the test was conducted in an unofficial testing laboratory.
      • Confirmed - those who tested positive.

      *source (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/733578/doh-revises-classification-of-covid-19-patients/story/)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: gunhell16 on April 12, 2020, 03:31:09 PM
      Tila nakakabahala nga ang ibang mga balita na lumalabas sa COVID-19 na ito.
      Marami ng namamatay at nasa average tayo ng 20 per day for a week na pero totoo nga ba ang umiikot sa social media ngayon mula kay Sir Arnold Clavio?
      Na tila inililihim na ang tunay na dami ng namamtay sa bansa ngayon?

      Code:
      https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=arnold%20clavio&epa=SEARCH_BOX


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on April 12, 2020, 06:35:07 PM
      Quote
      Ang bilang ng mga kaso ng coronavirus sa Pilipinas ay umakyat na sa 4,648 nitong Linggo, Abril 12.

      Ayon sa ulat ng Department of Health (DOH), may 220 na bagong mga kaso, mula 4,428 noong Sabado, Abril 11.

      Ang mga pagkamatay dahil sa COVID-19 ay umakyat din sa 297, tumataas ng 50 mula 247 sa mga nakaraang araw. Ito ang pinakamataas na bilang ng pagkamatay kada isang araw na naiulat ngayon.

      Samantala, 40 pang mga pasyente ang gumaling mula sa virus, na mayroong bilang na 197 mga pasyenteng gumaling mula sa virus. Ito ang pinakamataas na bilang ng mga gumaling sa ngayon.

      Ang buong Luzon ay nananatiling naka-lockdown upang mapahinto o mapagilan ang pagkalat ng virus, matapos pahabain ni Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte ang  "enhanced community quarantine" sa rehiyon hanggang Abril 30.

      Tinatantya ng mga Health Expert na ang bilang ng mga kaso sa bansa ay maaaring umabot kahit saan sa pagitan ng 26,000 at 75,000. (BASAHIN: Ex-DOH chief: Ang aktwal na bilang ng mga kaso ng virus ay maaaring umabot sa 75,000 sa 2 linggo).

      Source:


      Code:
      https://www.rappler.com/nation/257714-coronavirus-cases-philippines-april-12-2020



      Sa tingin ko, ang pagkahaba o ang pagka-extend ng enhanced community quarantine ay hindi pabor sa mga mahihirap talaga. Maraming mga taong namomoblema ngayon kung saan sila kukuha ng kanilang makakain sa mga susunod na araw dahil pansamantalang ipinatigil ang mga trabaho at hindi din sapat ang mga ibinibigay na pagkain galing sa kanilang kanya-kanyang mga barangay, kaya ang mga ibang tao ay napipilitang maging gahaman upang maraming makuhang pagkain galing sa barangay. Kaya kung sakaling magpatuloy ang pagdami ng virus sa buong mundo hindi lang sa sakit mamamatay ang tao kundi pati na rin sa gutom. Kailangan talaga natin magtulungan upang hindi masayang ang pagod ng mga frontliners upang mapabuti ang ating mga kalusugan at ang ating bansa.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on April 13, 2020, 09:30:25 AM
      Patuloy pa rin na tumataas ang cases ng COVID-19 sa bansa kahit nasa ilalim na tayo ngayon ng enhanced community quarantine. As I'm writing this post, we now have nearly 5,000 positive cases. According to DOH, this problem may last until January, 2021 kung walang gagawing intervention.

      Quote
      "Ang ating mga estimation galing po 'yan sa ating mga scientist, sa mga mathematician. Nagkaroon po tayo ng tatlong modelling estimates na ginawa kung saan ang timeline ranged from hanggang third quarter of the year and maybe worst case scenario base sa kanilang pag-aaral ay next year po ng January. But these are all estimations," Vergeire said in a virtual press briefing.

      Wherein she said na kung hindi kaagad napatupad ang ECQ, ay maaaring nasa mas nalang sitwasyon pa tayo ngayon. Katulad ng ibang bansa kung saan late sila nagpatupad ng lockdown. Since wala pang vaccine para dito, Philippines is using non-pharmaceutical intervention tulad ng social distancing, and hand washing to prevent COVID-19. Ayon pa dito, maaaring umabot ng hanggang 6-18 months bago makadevelop ng vaccine at madistribute ito sa public.

      At, kung mas tatagal pa yung quarantine dito sa bansa natin tila hindi na natin mawawari kung ano na mangyayari sa ekonomiya ng bansa. Hindi sapat ang ECQ para mapigilan ang pag kalat ng virus. Mayroon nga tayong ECQ, pero may mga makukulit pa rin na labas ng labas, hindi talaga matitigil ito. Kailangan talaga na makahanap ng mabisang solusyon tulad ng vaccine para magamot at mapigilan ang pag dami nito.

      Source:
      Code:
      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/733740/philippine-covid-19-problem-may-last-until-jan-2021-if-no-intervention-will-be-done-doh/story/


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on April 13, 2020, 03:31:43 PM
      I think ECQ is the best prevention that we could have until the vaccine for it comes onto the market. The problem isn't really on the implementation rather it's on the people not abiding on the rules been set by the government. Yung virus hindi yan gumagalaw not literally but rather it's the person who has been infected by it kaya kung marami parin talaga yung mga pasaway, eh talagang the curve will not be flatten.

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      "Based on my optimistic forecast, if the interventions such as the enhanced community quarantine aren't that effective, the peak might happen mid-April, with around 2,500 active cases in Metro Manila," Rabajante said.

      The cumulative number of infected cases might rise to between 6,000 and 7,000 in that same period.



      Experts from the Philippines and the World Health Organization estimate the novel coronavirus cases in the country could peak to 75,000 in the next 3 months or by June if not properly contained
      https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rappler.com/nation/255060-math-model-coronavirus-cases-metro-manila-could-peak-mid-april-not-contained

      So far the stats here are partially correct, this article was published way back March 18, 2020.



      Edit: This isn't mandatory but I think this will really help the government's response to the crisis. You may answer the survey on the link below.
      https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfF9Y4cpn06MsCNfngGQESPYcAQxIUF50n-zPrRyUY0ZC217g/formResponse


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on April 14, 2020, 07:46:54 PM
      Simula ng Maideklara ni Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte ang extension ng Enhanced Community Quarantine sa buong Luzon hanggang April 30, marami ang nadismaya at na bahala sa pag anunsiyo ng presidente dahil karamihan sa mga kapwa Pilipino natin ay nahihirapan kumuha at humanap ng kanilang pagkakakitaan nila habang mayroong lockdown upang may mapakain sila sa kanilang mga pamilya araw-araw at ang ibinibigay na donasyon sa mga bawat barangay ay hindi rin sapat sa loob ng isang buwan.

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      https://i.imgur.com/WoBtajx.png

      Isang Padre de Pamilya pumatay ng kapitan dahil di umano'y hindi naisali sa listahan ng mga nabigyan ng 5-8k Amelioration.

      Pinatay ang kapitan na si Chairman Larry Calderon Rosales ng Brgy. Sta. Ana San Pablo City at ang suspect ay si Pablito Uy Hernandez, 45 taong gulang at may asawa sa kadahilanang hindi nabigyan ng 5-8k Amelioration ang suspect kaya nagawa niya ang karumal-dumal na krimen.

      Ayon sa imbestigasyon nag-uusap si chairman at ang suspect sa labas ng Brgy. Hall ng biglang di - umano'y naglabas ito ng itak ang supect sa kanyang dalang bag at walang habas na tinaga si chairman sa leeg at ulo dahilan para mamatay ang chairman. Agad naman rumisponde ang mga police at nahuli ang suspect.


      Kagaya nga ng aking nabanggit hindi lahat ng kapwa nating Pilipino ay natutuwa sa Enhanced Community Quarantine dahil halos lahat ng mga pilipino ngayon ay walang pinagkakakitaan at walang trabaho. Nakakalungkot man isipin na sa sobrang problemado ng ibang tao ay nagagawa na nilang magwala sa publiko at makapatay ng ibang tao dahil sa simpleng hindi sila naisali sa listahan ng mga nabigyan ng 5-8k.  Kahit ang ating gobyerno ay walang maayos na plano para masolusyonan at maisalba ang iba sa pagkagutom dahil unang-una hindi sapat ang kanilang ibinibigay sa ibang tao dahil ang iba ay may malaking bilang sa kanilang pamilya at pangalawa hindi lahat ay nabibigyan ng donasyon tulad nalang sa nangyaring insidente sa aking discussion.



      Source:
      Code:
       https://www.pinaycares.com/2020/04/look-isang-lalaki-na-hindi-umanoy.html 


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: mk4 on April 15, 2020, 12:41:27 AM
      *snip*

      Is this confirmed already? Couldn't find articles on more reputable sources. Puros small blogs at YouTube videos lang nahahanap ko at the moment.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: julerz12 on April 15, 2020, 12:50:21 AM
      -Snip-
      Kagaya nga ng aking nabanggit hindi lahat ng kapwa nating Pilipino ay natutuwa sa Enhanced Community Quarantine
      Sorry pero why would you think na mayroon tayong mga kababaya na natutuwa sa nangyayaring ECQ? Just because someone is posting something fancy and funny on their socmed profiles doesn't mean nag-eenjoy mga yan with the current situation we are all in. Each and every one of us has our own way of coping with this problem; it just happens na being positive is their way of doing it. Besides, even the DOH and other government agencies suggests all Filipinos to be pro-active while being in ECQ. Mag-tiktok, mag tanim or gardening, etc. Being stuck in your own house isn't fun especially in the long run. It could lead to psychological problems.

      As per sa isyu ng pagkadismaya ng ibang kababayan natin, like I said, walang kahit na sino ang natutuwa sa extended ECQ, not even the President himself, not the Government, not even the frontliners. The longer this drags on, the more problems we Filipinos will be facing. We need everyone's cooperation para ang mga instances na katulad nyang sa San Pablo City will not happen anywhere else.

      Sources:
      'COVID dance challenge': DOH brings battle vs coronavirus to TikTok (https://www.rappler.com/nation/253541-covid19-dance-challenge-doh-brings-battle-tiktok)
      Mental health and psychosocial considerations during theCOVID-19 outbreak  (https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/mental-health-considerations.pdf)
      DA’s “Plant, Plant, Plant Program” to benefit all farmers, fishers, consumers nationwide (http://www.da.gov.ph/das-plant-plant-plant-program-to-benefit-all-farmers-fishers-consumers-nationwide/)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cryptoaddictchie on April 15, 2020, 08:25:14 AM
      Great news everyone. This time hindi na ito fake news but the real deal. Kakarinig ko lang din sa breaking news ng ABSCBN.


      April 15, 2020 – Low-income households who are consuming less than 50 kilowatts per hour a month will be exempted from paying their electric bills for the period during the Luzon-wide enhanced community quarantine, a senior administration official said on Wednesday.

      Cabinet Secretary Karlo Nograles said about 3 million poor Filipinos living outside the capital will benefit from a program called “Pantawid Liwanag”, which offers help to so-called “lifeline consumers”.

      “Sa mga kababayan nating komukonsumo ng mas mababa sa 50 kilowatt per hour o yung mga tinatawag na “lifeline consumers” ng mga electric cooperative dito sa Luzon, maging sa Visayas at Mindanao – maliban sa isang buwang grace period sa pagbabayad ng kuryente – libre na po ang inyong konsumo sa loob ng March to April billing period. Target na tulungan ng Pantawid Liwanag ang tatlong milyong  mahihirap na consumer ng mga electric cooperative.,” he said in a virtual press briefing.

      Nograles also assured Luzon residents that there is enough power supply, about 4,000 MW, for them during the enhanced community quarantine period. The current demand throughout Luzon area is about 7,323 MW during the hot and dry months of April and May.

      “This means we currently have an excess capacity of 4,742 MW. Lubos din ang suplay natin ng kuryente dito po sa Luzon,” Nograles said.

      In terms of water supply in Metro Manila, Nograles said the region’s almost 13 million residents should not fret over water shortage this summer.

      The National Water Resources Board reported that it alloted the full water allocation of 46 cubic meters per second to water services firm Metropolitan Waterworks and Sewerage System from the Angat Reservoir until the last day of the enhanced community quarantine.

      “Makakaasa po tayo na tuloy-tuloy po ang daloy ng tubig dito po sa [National Capital Region] sa kalagitnaan ng enhanced community quarantine o ECQ,” Nograles said. (Roy Narra/MM)
      Im not so sure kung lahat ba ay makakaavail nito hindi me masyado familiar sa mga watts or yung typical na konsumo.

      Source:

      https://news.tv5.com.ph/breaking/read/free-electricity-government-exempts-poor-families-from-paying-utilities


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on April 15, 2020, 09:02:39 AM
      photo not mine

      "Chinese medical experts find Philippines at risk of inability to cut COVID-19 source" -philstar

      Isang grupo ng Chinese medical experts ang pumunta sa Pilipinas para suriin ang kaso ng COVID-19 sa bansa. Bumisita sila sa iilang mga hospital sa  Pilipinas, at ayon sa head nila ay mukhang mahihirapan tayong puksain ang nasabing virus. Sinuggest nila na mainam magtayo ng "Fangcang" hospital ang bansa. Ito ang hospital na itinayo sa China intended para sa mga COVID-19 patients. Sa paraang ito, mai-isolate ang mga patients na positive sa virus. Dahil sa kakulangan ng lugar at kagamitan, halos ang ibang mga mild cases ay nananatili lamang sa kanilang bahay. Mas mapapadami ang recovery rate kung natitignan dila nang maayos kapag nasa hospital at maiwasan na maging severe ito.

      Code:
      https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/04/15/2007486/chinese-medical-experts-find-philippines-risk-inability-cut-covid-19-source

      Mainam nga ang ganitong paraan para mas nababantayan ang mga pasyente, ngunit kung iisipin ay hindi kakayanin ng ating gobyerno ang ganitong suhistyon. Ang pondo natin ay kulang na para iprovide ang mga pangangailangan ng lahat, pano pa ang pagpapatayo ng sariling hospital para sa mga COVID-19 patients. Ang China ay mayamang bansa kaya madali sa kanila na maisagawa ito, pero sa bansang katulad natin na umuunlad pa lang, ay mukhang mahirap. Kung hindi talaga mahahanapan ng solusyon at plano ang problemang ito, baka patuloy na dumami ang cases sa bansa.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on April 16, 2020, 02:24:13 AM
      Guys heads up lang sa mga hindi pa po nakakaalam(like me) and be informed na may bagong sintomas na nadidiskubre and mga doctor/scientist/researcher sa mga Covid-19 patients sa ibang bands. maliban sa mga alam na natin na sintomas Covid-19 gaya ng fever,dry cough,runny nose, shortness of breath etc.. ang sore eyes/pink eye(quoted below) at sudden confussion/biglang paglito(quoted below) ay isa rin sa mga maaring sintomas ng Covid-19. sa ngayon may kinokonsidera ng mga doctor ang red patches or red spots sa balat na bagong sintomas ng Covid-19 since napapansin nila ito sa maraming pasyente ng Covid-19(related articles below).

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      Sudden confusion
      Speaking of worsening signs, the CDC says a sudden confusion or an inability to wake up and be alert may be a serious sign that emergency care may be needed. If you or a loved one has those symptoms, especially with other critical signs like bluish lips, trouble breathing or chest pain, the CDC says to seek help immediately.

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      Pink eye
      Research from China, South Korea and other parts of the world indicate that about 1% to 3% of people with Covid-19 also had conjunctivitis, commonly known as pink eye.
      Conjunctivitis, a highly contagious condition when caused by a virus, is an inflammation of the thin, transparent layer of tissue, called conjunctiva, that covers the white part of the eye and the inside of the eyelid.
      But SARS-CoV-2 is just one of many viruses that can cause conjunctivitis, so it came as no real surprise to scientists that this newly discovered virus would do the same.
      Still, a pink or red eye could be one more sign that you should call your doctor if you also have other telltale symptoms of Covid-19, such as fever, cough or shortness of breath.

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      Red patches/red spots related articles
      Code:
      https://www.sortiraparis.com/news/coronavirus/articles/214066-frostbites-red-patches-nettle-rashes-covid-19-cutaneous-symptoms-according-to-de/lang/en
      https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1266948/coronavirus-symptoms-signs-covid-19-infection-skin-spots
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/heal-the-mind-heal-the-body/202004/possible-early-sign-covid-19

      e
      *snip*

      Is this confirmed already? Couldn't find articles on more reputable sources. Puros small blogs at YouTube videos lang nahahanap ko at the moment.

      binalita nato kahapon sa GMA. di ko sure Kung napanood mo na pero here's a video from GMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhSda-KOo5Y


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 16, 2020, 07:50:26 AM
      It looks like there will be a change in leadership sa DOH.

      Senators seek Duque's resignation for 'failure of leadership' amid COVID-19 crisis (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/734279/senators-seek-duque-s-resignation-for-failure-of-leadership-amid-covid-19-crisis/story/)

      They cited the following reasons:
      • Failure of Leadership
      • Negligence
      • Lack of Foresight
      • Inefficiency

      Though I think nag-resign na dapat siya nung pumutok ang Dengvaxia, I'm not sure if this is the right time for this move. I would have preferred na after na ng crisis saka panagutin ang lahat ng may pagkukulang kasi baka maapektuhan lalo ang implementation ng policies to fight COVID-19 but these lawmakers probably have seen enough.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: LogitechMouse on April 16, 2020, 08:58:31 AM
      Cagayan province posts no COVID-19 cases for a week. (https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/4/15/cagayan-province-posts-no-covid-cases-week.html)

      This article is posted yesterday and until now, there isn't any cases of COVID19 in Cagayan. The best part is that all of the positive cases are now recovery so in short, they have a 100% rate. There are no articles regarding this yet but I have watched the interview of the Governor in ESPN5.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arwin100 on April 16, 2020, 10:00:27 AM
      It looks like there will be a change in leadership sa DOH.

      Senators seek Duque's resignation for 'failure of leadership' amid COVID-19 crisis (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/734279/senators-seek-duque-s-resignation-for-failure-of-leadership-amid-covid-19-crisis/story/)

      They cited the following reasons:
      • Failure of Leadership
      • Negligence
      • Lack of Foresight
      • Inefficiency

      Though I think nag-resign na dapat siya nung pumutok ang Dengvaxia, I'm not sure if this is the right time for this move. I would have preferred na after na ng crisis saka panagutin ang lahat ng may pagkukulang kasi baka maapektuhan lalo ang implementation ng policies to fight COVID-19 but these lawmakers probably have seen enough.


      Nope, hindi siya pinalitan ni PRRD at ewan ko ba kung bakit me tiwala parin siya kay Doque eh ang bagal nito gumalaw mas madami pa presscon kaysa sa aksyon dapat ung mga testing labs ay pinapabilis ang pag accredit upang makapagsagawa na ng mas testing ung mga lugar na nag request nito at tsaka sablay din sya dun sa pagharang nya sa mga PPE's dahil maraming front liners ang nalagay sa alanganin dahil dito.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Baofeng on April 16, 2020, 10:43:48 AM
      It looks like there will be a change in leadership sa DOH.

      Senators seek Duque's resignation for 'failure of leadership' amid COVID-19 crisis (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/734279/senators-seek-duque-s-resignation-for-failure-of-leadership-amid-covid-19-crisis/story/)

      They cited the following reasons:
      • Failure of Leadership
      • Negligence
      • Lack of Foresight
      • Inefficiency

      Though I think nag-resign na dapat siya nung pumutok ang Dengvaxia, I'm not sure if this is the right time for this move. I would have preferred na after na ng crisis saka panagutin ang lahat ng may pagkukulang kasi baka maapektuhan lalo ang implementation ng policies to fight COVID-19 but these lawmakers probably have seen enough.


      Nope, hindi siya pinalitan ni PRRD at ewan ko ba kung bakit me tiwala parin siya kay Doque eh ang bagal nito gumalaw mas madami pa presscon kaysa sa aksyon dapat ung mga testing labs ay pinapabilis ang pag accredit upang makapagsagawa na ng mas testing ung mga lugar na nag request nito at tsaka sablay din sya dun sa pagharang nya sa mga PPE's dahil maraming front liners ang nalagay sa alanganin dahil dito.



      Hind siguro sa tiwala, pero at this point baka mas lalong hindi maganda kung papalitan sya sa gitna ng crisis. Nakita naman nya ung resolution ng mga Senator at dapat nyang i address ito ng mas maayos ngayon lalo na yung accreditation ng testing facility sa Marikina. So dapat in the next coming days maging aggresibo na ang DOH sa pamumuno nya, wag na puro pa pogi at pa press-con kabi kabila.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arwin100 on April 16, 2020, 11:41:16 AM
      It looks like there will be a change in leadership sa DOH.

      Senators seek Duque's resignation for 'failure of leadership' amid COVID-19 crisis (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/734279/senators-seek-duque-s-resignation-for-failure-of-leadership-amid-covid-19-crisis/story/)

      They cited the following reasons:
      • Failure of Leadership
      • Negligence
      • Lack of Foresight
      • Inefficiency

      Though I think nag-resign na dapat siya nung pumutok ang Dengvaxia, I'm not sure if this is the right time for this move. I would have preferred na after na ng crisis saka panagutin ang lahat ng may pagkukulang kasi baka maapektuhan lalo ang implementation ng policies to fight COVID-19 but these lawmakers probably have seen enough.


      Nope, hindi siya pinalitan ni PRRD at ewan ko ba kung bakit me tiwala parin siya kay Doque eh ang bagal nito gumalaw mas madami pa presscon kaysa sa aksyon dapat ung mga testing labs ay pinapabilis ang pag accredit upang makapagsagawa na ng mas testing ung mga lugar na nag request nito at tsaka sablay din sya dun sa pagharang nya sa mga PPE's dahil maraming front liners ang nalagay sa alanganin dahil dito.



      Hind siguro sa tiwala, pero at this point baka mas lalong hindi maganda kung papalitan sya sa gitna ng crisis. Nakita naman nya ung resolution ng mga Senator at dapat nyang i address ito ng mas maayos ngayon lalo na yung accreditation ng testing facility sa Marikina. So dapat in the next coming days maging aggresibo na ang DOH sa pamumuno nya, wag na puro pa pogi at pa press-con kabi kabila.

      Pero on other hand sa tingin ko since si Doque nadin ang naupo at tiyak may malawak kaalaman sya e pinagpatuloy  nalang ni pangulo at siguro warning ito para pagbutihin niya ang kanyang trabaho kasi marami ang nakasalalay sa kanyang desisyon at sana nga maging agresibo na ang DOH ngayong may mga testing lab na waiting maapprobahan at para masimulan nadin ang mas testing, walang lugar ang pabagal-bagal ngayon dahil kailangan na talaga ma flaten ang curve upang maibalik na paunti-unti ang buhay at ekonomiya natin.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: joshy23 on April 16, 2020, 03:37:25 PM


      Pero on other hand sa tingin ko since si Doque nadin ang naupo at tiyak may malawak kaalaman sya e pinagpatuloy  nalang ni pangulo at siguro warning ito para pagbutihin niya ang kanyang trabaho kasi marami ang nakasalalay sa kanyang desisyon at sana nga maging agresibo na ang DOH ngayong may mga testing lab na waiting maapprobahan at para masimulan nadin ang mas testing, walang lugar ang pabagal-bagal ngayon dahil kailangan na talaga ma flaten ang curve upang maibalik na paunti-unti ang buhay at ekonomiya natin.
      Ganun na nga ang mangyayari kailangan si Doque magpatuloy at lalong maging aggresibo dahil dyan sa resolusyon ng mga senador na magagaling, may mga lapses talaga pero since naaddress yung pagtawag ng replacement nya malamang maraming mababago sa mga desisyon nya ngayon, hindi sya papalitan bagkus paiigtingin ang trabaho nya, dapat mabilis na syang magdecide hindi na dapat pabagal bagal ubos na ang resources ng bansa kailangan yung mga importanteng hakbang galing sa DOH para sa kinabukasan ng bayan, both kalusugan at yung economiyang kahaharapin natin sa mga darating na panahon.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arielbit on April 16, 2020, 09:50:51 PM
      It looks like there will be a change in leadership sa DOH.

      Senators seek Duque's resignation for 'failure of leadership' amid COVID-19 crisis (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/734279/senators-seek-duque-s-resignation-for-failure-of-leadership-amid-covid-19-crisis/story/)

      They cited the following reasons:
      • Failure of Leadership
      • Negligence
      • Lack of Foresight
      • Inefficiency

      Though I think nag-resign na dapat siya nung pumutok ang Dengvaxia, I'm not sure if this is the right time for this move. I would have preferred na after na ng crisis saka panagutin ang lahat ng may pagkukulang kasi baka maapektuhan lalo ang implementation ng policies to fight COVID-19 but these lawmakers probably have seen enough.


      Nope, hindi siya pinalitan ni PRRD at ewan ko ba kung bakit me tiwala parin siya kay Doque eh ang bagal nito gumalaw mas madami pa presscon kaysa sa aksyon dapat ung mga testing labs ay pinapabilis ang pag accredit upang makapagsagawa na ng mas testing ung mga lugar na nag request nito at tsaka sablay din sya dun sa pagharang nya sa mga PPE's dahil maraming front liners ang nalagay sa alanganin dahil dito.



      feeling close kasi si duterte sa china, hindi niya alam kung hanggang saan lang ang limitasyon sa relasyon ng administrasyon na ito sa china regarding sa "pandemic scenario", naunahan pa ng russia magsara ng borders ang pinas, bakit? kasi sabi ng china sa pinas na huwag isara ang borders sa china (at kakampi pa ang WHO sa china, hindi daw kailangan itigil ang air travel). tapos dahil sa gustong maging in "good terms" ng administrasyon hindi sinara ang borders.

      ano ang masmaganda buhay ang lokal na ekonomiya pero sarado ang mga airports at sea ports o ganito naka lockdown lahat?

      ang china naman na walang delikadeza at hiya eh gusto talagang mang hawa.

      obvious naman na si doque ay sumusunod lang sa pangulo at nakikinig sa WHO imbis na paandarin ang sariling utak.

      yang mga senador naman na ang gagaling magreseach ng mga ipapampulitika eh ang tatanga naman pagdating sa virus na may mga characteristics ng isang pandemic starter. may nag comment pa sa senate hearing na "may direct flight pala ang wuhan sa pinas"---bakit kailan niya nalaman? during the hearing o before? kung during-wala siyang kwenta, kung before-bakit wala din siyang ginawa?

      at best, may failure of advisors ang pangulo.. at worst naman eh matigas at mahina lang talaga ang ulo, feeling all knowing haha.

      yung philhealth naman pakatapos may mag claim ng 4 Milyon sa critical treatment para sa wuhan virus binaba na sa 700,000 plus ang pwedeng ma claim haha

      mga frontliners (mga hospitals to be specific) hindi na tumatanggap mga pasyente kasi takot na sila. parang mga sundalo na nagsisitakbuhan sa sa giyera...hindi mo naman masisi dahil natural naman ang self preservation.




      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arielbit on April 16, 2020, 10:05:03 PM
      ito ang foresight..basta panoorin lang ninyo ang wuhan/china, ang pinagsimulan ng lahat kasi sila ang nauuna, kung ano ang nangyayari sa china iyon din ang mangyayari dito.

      dahil sa kailangan istart ang economy kasi hindi pwedeng lahat ng tao sa pilipinas ay instant pensionado. kahit hindi pa nauubos ang wuhan virus dito, aalisin na ang lockdown, bahala na ang mga tao sa mga buhay nila..tulad sa china ngayon. kung hindi kinaya ng china, mas hindi kaya ng pilipinas...hindi nga kinaya ang swine flu ang perfect example ng lock down dahil lahat ng baboy nakakulong...mga tao pa daw? haha

      mag plano na at mag isip isip.

      ang recommendation ko dito imbes na imonitor ang loosing battle eh masmabuti pang magthread na lang kung paano maging healthy, 80% ang nakaka experience ng mild symptoms at gumagaling ng kusa, iyon ang target--pumasok sa 80% at mas maganda kung mapalaki natin ang 80% na yan.

      saka padaliin at tulungan magka permit yung mga gumagawa ng alcohol imbes na pinaghuhuli, ano ang napala sa mga panghuhuli ng mga nagtitinda ng face mask?...ang ending mas mataas pa sa pinresyo ng mga sellers na hinuli ang presyo ng mga face mask ngayon haha. hindi na natuto and mga namamahala. tangang DTI at mga mayor, pabunot bunot pa ng mga baril ang mga pulis sa mga nagfifill up ng demand. nasaan na ang capitalism? free market?...wala na bagang mga alcohol sa mga groceries. ang dami kasing mga filipinong mga ingitero at utak talanka. profiteering daw, ppfffffft!, siyempre mas mahal ng kaunti pag small scale production + law of supply and demand. example: itry ninyo mag backyard na magpalaki ng manok versus bumili ng dressed chicken. masmura bumili, dahil sa savings ng production cost ng mass production.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on April 16, 2020, 11:59:55 PM
      Can't comprehend really sa mga pinagsasasabi mo @arielbit, are you one of those people na nagpapaniwala ng mga news on social media, if so at least verify it on legit sources? More like mga conspiracy lang ang statements mo. Is it true na hindi nga kinaya ng China, do you have claims na hindi nga? So far, I think na-flatten na nila yung curve nila regarding sa conspiracy that they are just trying to spread the disease that can't be concluded yet it is still a conspiracy. Ano ang masama kung sumunod sa alituntunin ng gobyerno na mapagaan ang sitwasyon dahil sa pandemic?

      aalisin na ang lockdown, bahala na ang mga tao sa mga buhay nila.
      ang dami kasing mga filipinong mga ingitero at utak talanka.
      Aren't you portraying one of those characteristics? Anong alisin ang lockdown? Hindi mo na alam na may mga silent carriers na nagpopositibo at hindi nila rin alam until tested na meron sila ng naturang sakit, just heard it on the news especially doon sa Valenzuela City kasi nagkaroon na sila ng mass testing. Does lifting the ECQ solved the problem until the curve hasn't been flattened? I think not, oo mahirap lalong lalo na sa walang-wala talaga pero mas hindi kakayanin ng gobyerno na mas lumalala pa ang sitwasyon lalo na kung i-lift ang ECQ ng maaga until we really see a decline of cases.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arwin100 on April 17, 2020, 12:04:11 AM
      It looks like there will be a change in leadership sa DOH.

      Senators seek Duque's resignation for 'failure of leadership' amid COVID-19 crisis (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/734279/senators-seek-duque-s-resignation-for-failure-of-leadership-amid-covid-19-crisis/story/)

      They cited the following reasons:
      • Failure of Leadership
      • Negligence
      • Lack of Foresight
      • Inefficiency

      Though I think nag-resign na dapat siya nung pumutok ang Dengvaxia, I'm not sure if this is the right time for this move. I would have preferred na after na ng crisis saka panagutin ang lahat ng may pagkukulang kasi baka maapektuhan lalo ang implementation ng policies to fight COVID-19 but these lawmakers probably have seen enough.


      Nope, hindi siya pinalitan ni PRRD at ewan ko ba kung bakit me tiwala parin siya kay Doque eh ang bagal nito gumalaw mas madami pa presscon kaysa sa aksyon dapat ung mga testing labs ay pinapabilis ang pag accredit upang makapagsagawa na ng mas testing ung mga lugar na nag request nito at tsaka sablay din sya dun sa pagharang nya sa mga PPE's dahil maraming front liners ang nalagay sa alanganin dahil dito.



      feeling close kasi si duterte sa china, hindi niya alam kung hanggang saan lang ang limitasyon sa relasyon ng administrasyon na ito sa china regarding sa "pandemic scenario", naunahan pa ng russia magsara ng borders ang pinas, bakit? kasi sabi ng china sa pinas na huwag isara ang borders sa china (at kakampi pa ang WHO sa china, hindi daw kailangan itigil ang air travel). tapos dahil sa gustong maging in "good terms" ng administrasyon hindi sinara ang borders.

      ano ang masmaganda buhay ang lokal na ekonomiya pero sarado ang mga airports at sea ports o ganito naka lockdown lahat?

      ang china naman na walang delikadeza at hiya eh gusto talagang mang hawa.

      obvious naman na si doque ay sumusunod lang sa pangulo at nakikinig sa WHO imbis na paandarin ang sariling utak.

      yang mga senador naman na ang gagaling magreseach ng mga ipapampulitika eh ang tatanga naman pagdating sa virus na may mga characteristics ng isang pandemic starter. may nag comment pa sa senate hearing na "may direct flight pala ang wuhan sa pinas"---bakit kailan niya nalaman? during the hearing o before? kung during-wala siyang kwenta, kung before-bakit wala din siyang ginawa?

      at best, may failure of advisors ang pangulo.. at worst naman eh matigas at mahina lang talaga ang ulo, feeling all knowing haha.

      yung philhealth naman pakatapos may mag claim ng 4 Milyon sa critical treatment para sa wuhan virus binaba na sa 700,000 plus ang pwedeng ma claim haha

      mga frontliners (mga hospitals to be specific) hindi na tumatanggap mga pasyente kasi takot na sila. parang mga sundalo na nagsisitakbuhan sa sa giyera...hindi mo naman masisi dahil natural naman ang self preservation.




      We are not rich country and sa tingin mo ba may magandang epekto ang pag lockdown ng maaga? oo andun na tayo sa usaping kumalat na ang virus pero isipin mo rin to ang bansa natin ay naka depende sa tourism at manufacturing at kung nag lockdown ng maa
      aga let say nung january ano na nangyari sa mga kababayan natin? tiyak nangyari na ang looting at ibang krimenalidad ngayon dahil marami ang gutom since imagine 3 months walang trabaho?

      At dahil nadin sa advisory ng WOH kaya may tantiyahang naganap at ang nangyari nung nakaraan ay nag tiwala ang gobyerno na malulutas ng tsina ang sakit na ito kaya ganito ang nangyari, pero in response naman sa kasalukuyang nagaganap is maganda ang tugon ng gobyerno un ngalang may mga korap na lgu ang patuloy paring namayagpag kaya marami ang hindi nabibigyan ng ayuda.

      Kaya ang tanging magagawa natin ngayon is sumonod at manatili sa bahay pero ang hirap may mga tao parin ba pasaway at pinapalala nila ang sitwasyon.

      sana mag implementa ng 1 time total lockdown sa buong bansa  ang gobyerno upang ma control ang epidemyang ito.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on April 17, 2020, 11:16:30 AM



      Balita ngayon na nine inmates ng Bureau of Jail Management and Penology ang nag positibo sa COVID-19. Sa ngayon ay naka isolate na ang mga inmates sa isang bagong facility sa Quezon City. Ayon din sa isang press conference, mayroon ding nine personnel ng BJMP ang nag positive.


      Quote
      “All of our personnel assigned in Quezon City Jail were tested. There are around 40 of them and we had them swabbed,” Solda said pertaining to the test procedure for COVID-19.

      He added that 21 other inmates were also tested.

      “Those who show symptoms, definitely they have to be tested to determine the extent of possible infection,” Solda added in Filipino.


      Magkakaroon ng random testing sa mga inmates para madouble check ang sitwasyon at kalagayan ng nga inmates.

      Source:
      Code:
      https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/04/17/2007916/9-bjmp-inmates-test-positive-covid-19


      Eto ang isa sa pinaka nakakabahala ngayon eh. Umpisa pa lang ay nakakatakot na isipin pano kung magkakaroon sa kulungan, siksikan sila at walang social distancing. Once na makapasok ang virus, prone na ang lahat sa loob. Akala ko once na pagbawalan muna ang pag bisita ay mababawasan ang possibility na mahawaan sila. Pero ngayon, mayroon nang nagpositibo. Delikado na din ang kaligtasan ng mga inmates. Sana ay maagapan nila ito at hindi na dumami ang cases sa kulungan dahil mas mahirap kapag kumalat ang virus sa kulungan.

      Kung ganyan ang itsura ng mga inmates, sobrang nakakatakot kapag kumalat ang virus. Siksikan, walang proper hand washing, lahat close contact, walang face mask, at hindi safe. Nasa loob nga sila, nasa loob din naman ang virus. Hilingin nalang natin na sana wala ng madadagdagan na bagong cases galing sa mga inmates. Kung tayo nga ay ipinapatupad ang social distancing, sa kulungan, hindi nila ito magagawa.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: ice18 on April 17, 2020, 05:59:21 PM
      ^Talagang nakakabahala yan pati sa bilanguan umabot na pala ang covid dapat ma isolate agad yung positive at i-mass testing yung mga nakasamang preso kasi kung hindi nila maagapan yan kakalat yan sa loob kawawa sila diyan or gayahin nila sa Iran na pinalaya nalang nila yung ibang preso para lang maiwasan sa pagkalat ang covid na ito, ano sa tingin niyo talaga ang solusyon? tanggalin ang lockdown or extend? Sa aking opinyon extend pa rin ang lockdown hanggat tumataas ang bilang at mas mahigpit na talaga dapat gayahin natina ng China na walang labasan ng bahay yung iba nga dun tlagang nilalagyan ang harang yung labas  ng bahay para lang walang lumabas.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arielbit on April 17, 2020, 08:57:52 PM
      Can't comprehend really sa mga pinagsasasabi mo @arielbit, are you one of those people na nagpapaniwala ng mga news on social media, if so at least verify it on legit sources? More like mga conspiracy lang ang statements mo. Is it true na hindi nga kinaya ng China, do you have claims na hindi nga? So far, I think na-flatten na nila yung curve nila regarding sa conspiracy that they are just trying to spread the disease that can't be concluded yet it is still a conspiracy. Ano ang masama kung sumunod sa alituntunin ng gobyerno na mapagaan ang sitwasyon dahil sa pandemic?

      aalisin na ang lockdown, bahala na ang mga tao sa mga buhay nila.
      ang dami kasing mga filipinong mga ingitero at utak talanka.
      Aren't you portraying one of those characteristics? Anong alisin ang lockdown? Hindi mo na alam na may mga silent carriers na nagpopositibo at hindi nila rin alam until tested na meron sila ng naturang sakit, just heard it on the news especially doon sa Valenzuela City kasi nagkaroon na sila ng mass testing. Does lifting the ECQ solved the problem until the curve hasn't been flattened? I think not, oo mahirap lalong lalo na sa walang-wala talaga pero mas hindi kakayanin ng gobyerno na mas lumalala pa ang sitwasyon lalo na kung i-lift ang ECQ ng maaga until we really see a decline of cases.

      bibigyan kita ng hint. COVID19 ..ang ibig sabihin 2019 pa yang virus na yan. conspiracy? January 20 lang ng china sinabi na may human to human transmission, may internet ka at siguradong may oras ka dahil sa lockdown, basa basa at youtube youtube lang  ;)

      ang sinabi kong aalisin ang lockdown ay prediction ko na mangyayari..bakit?

      1.) obserbahan mo yung mga mahihirap, tama sila mauuna pa silang mamamatay sa gutom kaysa virus
      2.) hanggang ngayon 14 days pa ang official maximum quarantine days, merong recorded na asymptomatic carriers up to 26 days
      3.) yung gumaling na pwedeng magka relapse
      4.) human to animal tapos animal to human. (hindi lang tao ang pwedeng maging carriers)
      5.) kaya bang isustain ang pagpakain ng gobyerno sa mga tao hanggang maubos ang virus? extend lang ng extend ng lockdown?
      6.) ang mga hospital nirereject na ang mga pasyente
      7.) pinaghuhuli yung mga gustong mag supply ng alcohol at face mask
      8.) ang philhealth hindi na icocover ang full payment ng hospitalization at maraming hindi kayang magbayad

      tingan mo ang mga comments sa youtube sa mga video ng mga hinuling nagbebenta ng alcohol at face mask kung hindi ingitero at utak talanka ang masasabi mo, saka yung mga nag utos na manghuli-isa rin sila. yang gobyero ang profiteering dahil okay daw yung mga PPE at test kits na binili sa china pero yung mga bansa sa europe ang sabi hindi daw okay-mataas daw ang failure rate. bakit okay daw sabi ng gobyerno?--kasi meron silang kick back hehe.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Baofeng on April 17, 2020, 09:35:21 PM
      I was expecting someone to post yung sinabi ni Pres Duterte.

      'Parang martial law': Duterte warns troops to take over if Filipinos break quarantine

      Quote
      'I am just asking for your disiplina, kasi 'pag ayaw ninyong maniwala, mag-take over ang military at police.... Parang martial law na rin. Mamili kayo,' says a disgruntled President Rodrigo Duterte

      https://www.rappler.com/nation/258174-parang-martial-law-duterte-warns-troops-takeover-filipinos-break-quarantine

      So ayan na, sa mga makukulit na naglalabas pa dyan kahit na nasa lock-down na. Marami pa ring cases ang nag di-discover everyday at kung hindi bumaba ang statistics malamang mag extend ng quarantine at worst martial law ang kasunod.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bisdak40 on April 17, 2020, 10:06:34 PM
      I was expecting someone to post yung sinabi ni Pres Duterte.

      'Parang martial law': Duterte warns troops to take over if Filipinos break quarantine

      Quote
      'I am just asking for your disiplina, kasi 'pag ayaw ninyong maniwala, mag-take over ang military at police.... Parang martial law na rin. Mamili kayo,' says a disgruntled President Rodrigo Duterte

      https://www.rappler.com/nation/258174-parang-martial-law-duterte-warns-troops-takeover-filipinos-break-quarantine

      So ayan na, sa mga makukulit na naglalabas pa dyan kahit na nasa lock-down na. Marami pa ring cases ang nag di-discover everyday at kung hindi bumaba ang statistics malamang mag extend ng quarantine at worst martial law ang kasunod.

      I expect this to happen very soon dahil ang titigas ng ulo ng ilan natin kababayan. Hindi talaga nila sineryoso yong panawagan ng gobyerno na manatili sa bahay. Yong "presumption" or plano ng gobyerno ay talagang hindi masusunod dahil sa iilan. Yong presumption nila na wala ng mahahawa or iilan na lang ang mahahawa in the middle of the ECQ ay hindi nila makikita sa stats kasi labas ng labas ang mga tao.



      Meanwhile, dito sa bayan namin mayroon na din kaming ground zero. Napakalungkot nito ngunit kailangan itong harapin ng LGU ng Cebu and hoping they will manage this crisis well.

      https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1852996/Cebu/Local-News/Barrio-Luz-on-total-lockdown


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: LogitechMouse on April 18, 2020, 10:05:02 AM
      I was expecting someone to post yung sinabi ni Pres Duterte.

      'Parang martial law': Duterte warns troops to take over if Filipinos break quarantine

      Quote
      'I am just asking for your disiplina, kasi 'pag ayaw ninyong maniwala, mag-take over ang military at police.... Parang martial law na rin. Mamili kayo,' says a disgruntled President Rodrigo Duterte

      https://www.rappler.com/nation/258174-parang-martial-law-duterte-warns-troops-takeover-filipinos-break-quarantine

      So ayan na, sa mga makukulit na naglalabas pa dyan kahit na nasa lock-down na. Marami pa ring cases ang nag di-discover everyday at kung hindi bumaba ang statistics malamang mag extend ng quarantine at worst martial law ang kasunod.
      Di ko ramdam masiado ang impact nito dahil di ako nakatira within Metro Manila pero suportado ko ito if mangyari man.

      Alam naman natin na mababa ang healthcare system natin pero ang mga tao ay ayaw pang sumunod sa mga protocols na pinatupad ng gobyerno. Makukulit kasi karamihan sa mga kababayan natin eh kaya napipilitan si PRRD na magsabi ng mga words na ganito. Kung alam lang nilang sumunod at may disiplina sila then di niya ito masasabi at isa pa, mas bababa pa ang cases natin.

      For sure, marami na namang nag rant sa social media regarding sa sinabi nito ni Presidente pero suportado ko ito para sa kapakanan ng kanyang mga tao. Sa ibang bansa nga gaya sa mga Middle East countries if lumabas ka fine + jail :D. Sa North Korea, alam naman natin na walang kaso dun hanggang ngaun at alam na natin ang dahilan :D.

      Saka lang susunod ang mga tao pag nakaramdam na sila ng hirap gaya nito.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on April 18, 2020, 12:14:04 PM
      bibigyan kita ng hint. COVID19 ..ang ibig sabihin 2019 pa yang virus na yan. conspiracy? January 20 lang ng china sinabi na may human to human transmission, may internet ka at siguradong may oras ka dahil sa lockdown, basa basa at youtube youtube lang  ;)
      Alam ko yan, if it's not a conspiracy can you prove it here especially yung talagang para sayo naglalaman ng mga mabibigat na ebidensya or mayroon kang pinanghahawakan? I'm not into China nor I'm into your opinions, I'm into facts. Do you think YouTube was a reliable platform? If sabihin ko sayo na hindi nanggaling sa China ang virus at sa ibang bansa it's just been plotted there, will you ever believe in me?

      ang sinabi kong aalisin ang lockdown ay prediction ko na mangyayari..bakit?

      1.) obserbahan mo yung mga mahihirap, tama sila mauuna pa silang mamamatay sa gutom kaysa virus
      2.) hanggang ngayon 14 days pa ang official maximum quarantine days, merong recorded na asymptomatic carriers up to 26 days
      3.) yung gumaling na pwedeng magka relapse
      4.) human to animal tapos animal to human. (hindi lang tao ang pwedeng maging carriers)
      5.) kaya bang isustain ang pagpakain ng gobyerno sa mga tao hanggang maubos ang virus? extend lang ng extend ng lockdown?
      6.) ang mga hospital nirereject na ang mga pasyente
      7.) pinaghuhuli yung mga gustong mag supply ng alcohol at face mask
      8.) ang philhealth hindi na icocover ang full payment ng hospitalization at maraming hindi kayang magbayad

      1.
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      Generally, it appears as though humans can survive without any food for 30-40 days, as long as they are properly hydrated. Severe symptoms of starvation begin around 35-40 days, and as highlighted by the hunger strikers of the Maze Prison in Belfast in the 1980s, death can occur at around 45 to 61 days.
      Mamamatay agad? The government do what they can do to mitigate the problem especially sa gutom.
      2. Kaya nga, tapos ikaw gusto mo pang ma lift yung lockdown, I don't think the government will take that risk na i-lift yung lockdown para until the case decrease through time.
      3. As I said, early lifting isn't the answer.
      4. What's the chance rate ang pag transfer through animal to human, have you ever research on that?
      5. On the time of crisis such us hunger who we can turn into? Isn't it the government or other NGO's and this who has silver spoon.
      6. Was this even verified?
      7. I haven't seen that story yet.
      8. So you think dahil hindi na cover ili-lift yung lockdown? Are you still on able mind?

      Well, your prediction seems not to favor on the good health of the mass, that's what I can comprehend sa mga opinyon mo rito, correct me if I'm wrong.

      tingan mo ang mga comments sa youtube sa mga video ng mga hinuling nagbebenta ng alcohol at face mask kung hindi ingitero at utak talanka ang masasabi mo, saka yung mga nag utos na manghuli-isa rin sila. yang gobyero ang profiteering dahil okay daw yung mga PPE at test kits na binili sa china pero yung mga bansa sa europe ang sabi hindi daw okay-mataas daw ang failure rate. bakit okay daw sabi ng gobyerno?--kasi meron silang kick back hehe.
      Have you ever got the full detail of the story or not? Hindi ko pa kasi nakita yang story na yan. I will not rely on just plain comments mate. Paanong may kickback? So you think they are wrong on their assessment? It doesn't mean it's from Europe it's of high quality and China is don't or vice versa.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arielbit on April 19, 2020, 07:50:03 AM
      LOL at the safety ranking....at the bottom.

      instead of trying to engage in some retard arguments, including putting words in my mouth. just try to figure out why philippines is in the bottom of "asia-pacific corona virus safety ranking" LOL

      pointing out "based on the efficiency of quarantine and government management, monitoring and detection, emergency treatment and readiness", basically this lock down is just stalling/delaying the inevitable-the virus always finds a way to get through people/communities.

      the government can extend this for as long as they want until they can no longer extend it anymore.

      so what if a person can live for around one month without food? have you tried not eating even for 3 days? hehe

      people who have more in life want martial law so that at the end of the month when they go out of their cozy homes into their "well off neighborhood" and everything is fine...but the virus will eventually find its way back, why? again..EFFICIENCY AT THE BOTTOM

      whether you all like it or not the poor is always with us this is a 3rd world country, scaring people with military just shows how miserable the government is and i bet those military personnel are also scared arresting those poor people for they might get the virus too LOL






      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on April 19, 2020, 12:14:16 PM

      Quote
      Duterte to consult past DOH secretaries over quarantine extension, says Bong Go

      Ngayon ay humihingi ng opinyon ang pangulo kung dapat bang iextend ang ECQ sa bansa after nito matapos sa April 30, 2020. Ayon naman kay Bong Go, ang presidente daw ang mag dedecide kung gagawin nga ito maaaring ngayong linggo. Ayon pa sa kanya, kung sya lang naman daw ay uunahin nya ang kaligtasan ng mga mamamayan kaso ang ekonomiya naman ang nakataya kapag mas lalo pang humaba ang quarantine.

      Wala pang vaccine para gamutin ang sakit, kaya ang pinaka mainam na solusyon sa ngayon ay ang pananatili sa bahay at pag iwas sa maraming tao para hindi mahawaan ng sakit. Mahirap itaya ang kalusugan ng bawat Pilipino. Pag natapos ang ECQ at bumalik na sa lahat ang mga tao, mas dadami ang cases nito at mas lalong maghihirap ang bansa kung sakali. Kaya wala tayong ibang magagawa kundi makicooperate at manatili sa bahay.

      Kung kayo ang tatanungin, sa tingin nyo ba ay maeextend pa ang ECQ? Mas hihigpitan ba nila ito? Kasi kung patuloy lang ang pag extend pero may mga pasaway pa ring hindi sumusunod, wala lang ding mangyayari. Sasang ayon ba kayo kung sakaling mas dumami ang mga militar na magbabantay habang may ECQ para mas mapahigpit ang pagpapatupad?

      Source:
      Code:
      https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/04/19/duterte-to-consult-past-doh-secretaries-over-quarantine-extension-says-bong-go/


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Adreman23 on April 19, 2020, 01:15:58 PM
      Sa aking opinyon ay hindi solusyon ang ECQ laban sa COVID 19 dahil kong mapapansin natin noong ini announce ng pangulo na magkakaroon ng quarantine ay nag panic ang mga tao, yung iba nagsi uwian sa kanilang probinsya halos punuan ang mga buses kung saan siksikan ang mga tao hindi natin alam kung may mga carrier ng virus doon pero nakikita naman natin na nagkaroon na ng mga kaso sa ibat ibang lugar, at isa pa karamihan sa mga tao ay nagpanic buying kung saan naman ay nagsiksikan sila sa mga groceries at palengke para bumili ng kanilang pangangailangan di din natin alam kung nagkahawaan na sila, at isa pa sa pagdistribute ng mga relief goods kung mapapansin natin na nag uunahan ang mga tao at hindi naman nasusunod ang social distancing kayat kung mayroon man positive doon ay tiyak din na magkakahawaan, at isa pa tingnan natin ang mga natatrapic na mga sasakyan ng dahil sa check point na iipon ang mga sasakyan at karamihan ay mga naka motor at hindi din natin alam kung nagkakahawaan din sila, at isa pa sa mga remmitances nag iipon ipon din mga tao para makapagpadala o kumuha ng padala at di din natin alam kung nagkakahawaan din sila. ilan lang eto sa mga nakikita ko na walang silbi ang ECQ mas lalo pa ngang nakapagpalala ng sitwasyon.

      Para sa aking pananaw kung sana di nag patupad ng ECQ ang gobyerno ay hindi sana ganito kalala ang sitwasyon. Kung para sa akin lang ang tama siguro nilang ginawa ay  pinagbawalan lang ng gobyerno ang mga tao na lumabas ng walang proteksyon, tulad ng pagsuot ng mask, pagsombrero (dahil pwedeng kumapit ang virus sa buhok ng tao) at proteksyon sa mata at tainga. halimbawa kung sino ang makita na walang protekston ay huhulihin at pagmumultahin o ikukulong, At tuturuan din nila ang mga tao kung pano maingatan para hindi sila mahawaan ng virus tulad ng palagiang paghuhugas ng mga kamay, social distancing at iba pa. Kung sana yung budget na inilaan nila sa SAP ay ibinili na lang ng mga protective gears para hindi magkahawaan ang mga tao at idinistribute nila sa bawat mangagawang pinoy.

      Kung walang ECQ dapat sana tuloy tuloy lang ang ekonomiya ng bansa, ang mga tao ay tuloy lang pasok sa trabaho basta may mga proteksyon sila at alam naman nila pano ingatan ang sarili nila dahil mga tao yan may mga isip at lahat ay may takot na mahawaan kayat mag iingat talaga yan para sa pamilya nila, hindi yung ikinukulong sa bahay na para bang tayo ay mga walang pag-iisip.

      eto ay aking opinyon lang bilang isang mamamayan salamat po


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Baofeng on April 19, 2020, 01:46:50 PM
      Mahirap talaga ang magiging desisyon dyan, daming kailangang isa alang alang katulad ng economiya at kaligtasan ng lahat ng Piilipino. Ang nakakainis lang kasi dun sa mga makukulit na yan, pag tinamaan naman ng sakit gobyerno natin ang sisisihin pag hindi sila natulungan gayung kung nakinig lang naman sila baka hindi pa sila tinamaan. Ang bansang Spain nag extend na hanggang May 9. At kung hindi talaga bababa ang kaso ng mga kababayan nating tinatamaan ng Covid-19, malamang i extend yan at lalong mag higpit at gamitan na ng full force ng kapulisan at militar natin.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arielbit on April 19, 2020, 03:28:46 PM
      1st, this 3rd world government is just copying 1st world solution, "duterte : we got money, supplies" and then later on.."we are running out of money"
       - this is not USA, south korea, italy, france etc.
      ...not working


      2nd, martial law, police and military take over..they can be effective to specific areas but not the whole country (citizen to police/military ratio). "virus: i'll be back"
       - the question is.. is the 1st part getting solved by this? money? food? supplies?
       - good people will become desperate and desperate people will become more desperate.
       - this is just a solution by rich scared psychopaths with false sense of security while watching the poor starve.

      ...will not work


      3rd, we are back in the beginning, where people will fend for themselves, a 3rd world country with a 3rd world solution, people make face mask, alcohol, PPE's etc. and make money out of this and not thrown in jails.
       - people get creative, improvise, make changes to their lifestyles and change protocols.
       - this is their(citizens) fight too, the government agencies, police and military will only have to assist.

      remember this is a marathon, not a 100m sprint.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Mr. Big on April 19, 2020, 08:52:41 PM
      1st, this 3rd world government is just copying 1st world solution, "duterte : we got money, supplies" and then later on.."we are running out of money"
       - this is not USA, south korea, italy, france etc.
      ...not working

      This is the phase on where we are now... The problem is the delay, we should be doing preemptive measures, pagkatapos nitong kalamidad na ito, malalaman natin kung saan nagkamali, kung sino ang dapat unang nag react... I don't know kung we are really caught off guard or merong mga nag pabaya since bago ito nakarating sa Pilipinas, sabog na ang balita na merong COVID, and to think na malapit lang tayo sa China, and tourists are flocking here, malaki talaga ang chance na ma punta to dito satin... Dapat They press the button earlier...

      We are a poor country, with minimal stock of everything, we cannot stand a pro long quarantine, Dapat rapid ang mass testing, para maka galaw na agad ang economy kahit naka lock lahat ng borders muna, just like nung sinusuggest ng karamihan na modified ECQ...

      2nd, martial law, police and military take over..they can be effective to specific areas but not the whole country (citizen to police/military ratio). "virus: i'll be back"
       - the question is.. is the 1st part getting solved by this? money? food? supplies?
       - good people will become desperate and desperate people will become more desperate.
       - this is just a solution by rich scared psychopaths with false sense of security while watching the poor starve.

      ...will not work

      I agree with this... Madaming magugutom talaga and magkakanakawan... Mahina yung galing sa local government, kung meron man delay talaga, how come na in one month 2x lang dumating ang relief nila, in a total of 6 kilos of rice, 3 pieces sardines, 2 pieces wow ulam, 1/4 asukal, 1 nescafe, 3 lucky me... Though they say na relief ito, hindi dapat normal ang pagkain natin but My God!!! ano yun kakain lahat ng 1/4 kilo ng rice a day para mapagkasya sa 1 month ang 6 kilos? in a family of four, 1 kilo a day sakto lang, pano kaya pagkakasyahin yun...

      Magiging desperado talaga ang karamihan sa mahihirap, remember Yolanda?, sa ngayon, sa tingin ko kaya pa naman yan tiis tiisin, pero next month or sa susunod, I don't know, baka maging rampant na naman ang nakawan lalo pag di na perfect ang plano para mapa unlad uli ang ekonomiya natin...

      3rd, we are back in the beginning, where people will fend for themselves, a 3rd world country with a 3rd world solution, people make face mask, alcohol, PPE's etc. and make money out of this and not thrown in jails.
       - people get creative, improvise, make changes to their lifestyles and change protocols.
       - this is their(citizens) fight too, the government agencies, police and military will only have to assist.

      remember this is a marathon, not a 100m sprint.

      "Back to stone age" tayo niyan, yung mga kabataan ngayon na di marunong mag tanim ng kamote, matututo na ulit, kailangan talaga natin yan, baka mga ilang buwan pa or worst a year or more bago tayo maka balik sa normal...

      To all: Mag pack kayo kahit tag kakaunting pagkain, try to assess, karamihan naman ng kakilala niyo malapit sa bahay niyo or may fb, kumustahin, pag nag drama,  wag niyo patulan, dalhan niyo na lang ng makakain, wag papansin sa social media, mag ala "batman"...


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bisdak40 on April 19, 2020, 09:38:38 PM

      It was a shock that the government assumed everybody in sitio Zapatera was infected with the virus - and now the assumption has spread to the entire barangay Luz. There are some frightening pictures coming out of that area, showing soldiers with machine guns and armored vehicles rolling down the streets. Guess they are trying to frighten everybody into submission or something.

      Nagkakalitohan na yong LGU ng Cebu noong una. City's health chief recommended at first that they will no longer do mass testing but later the mayor intervened and said that mass testing will continue. Hindi lang nga alam ng karamihan kung hanggang kailan yong mass testing since test kits are very limited.

      Yeah, you are right, that mobile tanks were there to frighten the residents of sitio Zapatera but it's a failure. It's been used as props to selfies of some individuals there. Sa ngayon ang panawagan ng LGU ng huwag ng sisihin yong mga tao doon bagkos ay magtutulungan nalang para matapos na ito. Maraming panawagan na para manatili sila sa bahay, gawing komportable yong pananatili nila doon at least fot the coming months man lang. Give people there free WI-FI, electricity, water, sanitizers, pagkain para wala ng rason pa na lumabas para maiwasan yong paglala ng problema.


      Where I am, I think the government is doing a good job of enforcing ECQ and keeping people at home. When anybody goes outside, they always wear a mask. Not sure if they could do a much better job. The mayor of Lapu-Lapu said something about ending ECQ ahead of schedule, but I don't think that is likely to happen. Hopefully April 28th as originally planned.

      I'm also living in LLC and the mayor here is declaring a total lock down of sort kasi nga ang dami pa ring sasakyang lumabas. He is closing the two bridges from non-LLC residents. I totally agree with the mayor on this one, he should have done this weeks ago.

      The irony of it all, balik trabaho na ako  :). Nakakuha kasi yong company namin ng exemption from the lock down lol.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: 0t3p0t on April 21, 2020, 12:42:10 AM
      1st, this 3rd world government is just copying 1st world solution, "duterte : we got money, supplies" and then later on.."we are running out of money"
       - this is not USA, south korea, italy, france etc.
      ...not working


      2nd, martial law, police and military take over..they can be effective to specific areas but not the whole country (citizen to police/military ratio). "virus: i'll be back"
       - the question is.. is the 1st part getting solved by this? money? food? supplies?
       - good people will become desperate and desperate people will become more desperate.
       - this is just a solution by rich scared psychopaths with false sense of security while watching the poor starve.

      ...will not work


      3rd, we are back in the beginning, where people will fend for themselves, a 3rd world country with a 3rd world solution, people make face mask, alcohol, PPE's etc. and make money out of this and not thrown in jails.
       - people get creative, improvise, make changes to their lifestyles and change protocols.
       - this is their(citizens) fight too, the government agencies, police and military will only have to assist.

      remember this is a marathon, not a 100m sprint.
      Yung money, food at supplies ay talagang mauubos yan if ever magtagal pa itong pandemic kahit na may pinamimigay na assistance from the government at kung mangyari man yan mas maging malubha ang sitwasyon dahil syempre dyan na papasok yung looting. Dito sa amin sarap hambalusin yung mga nakatanggap ng ayuda galing gobyerno na pinangsugal lang lalo na ibang benefeciaries ng 4p's at farmers so paano makasurvive kung inaaksaya lang yung ayuda db?

      Until now madame padin matitigas ulo kahit nakaimplement na yung enhanced community quarantine sa kanya kanyang lugar patuloy ang pagtaas ng bilang ng mga infected ng nasabing virus. Di ko nga alam kung anong klaseng utak meron yung ibang kababayan natin kasi lage nagtatanong sa social media kung kelan matatapos itong pandemic na ito pero isa naman sa mga pasaway na hindi sumusunod kahit alam naman na domino effect talaga mangyayari kapag nagkakaroon ng covid. Hay naku!


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: julerz12 on April 21, 2020, 01:37:28 AM
      Habang magulo sa ibang part ng Luzon and the LGU's are having a hard time implementing ECQ guidelines, meanwhile in Davao,

      The City Government of Davao implements today the District Clustering system as additional control measures during the Enhanced Community Quarantine amid Covid-19 pandemic.
      Source: Sunstar Davao Facebook Page (https://web.facebook.com/sunstardavaonews/posts/2975996215788025)

      And with that announcement, Davao netizens have found a way to entertain themselves, someone made an emblem for each cluster and the Davao netizen's reactions are hilarious.
      https://i.imgur.com/rrwIyQu.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/84wqs9m.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/g7COxKO.jpg
      https://i.imgur.com/FGaU6aY.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/wuWrmyR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/986esis.jpg

      Dami ko tawa dito.
      https://i.imgur.com/wl0VJMP.jpg

      This just goes to show na kahit anong hirap na dinaranas nating mga Pilipino, we always find a way to put a smile on our faces.  ;)

      Source: Sunstar Davao Facebook Page (https://web.facebook.com/sunstardavaonews/posts/2978531992201114)


      Also in Mindanao, in Digos City.
      Some residents would put fruits and vegetables they have grown and harvested from their own backyard to swap for the relief goods.
      Ang mga naipong prutas at gulay ay ipinamimigay din sa iba pang nangangailangang mga residente sa iba pang mga barangay sa Digos City.
      How thoughtful is that?  :D
      https://i.imgur.com/DNVZbv2.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/E7PlAgr.jpg

      Source: One Mindanao Facebook Page (https://web.facebook.com/RTVOneMindanao/posts/1544923785673772)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on April 21, 2020, 04:01:36 AM
      Be wary lang if may ma-rereceive kayo na ganitong message. Mula ito sa isang post ng facebook page na Earth Shaker. Kilala naman natin or mangilan-ngilan sa atin 'tong facebook page sa paghahatid ng mga announcements regarding sa calamities or weather conditions. So maaaring lehitimo itong mensahe.

      DO NOT CLICK THE LINK! (A reminder against scams)

      Ito'y kumakalat na sa US at maaaring ginagawa na rin ng iba sa Pilipinas. Kung kayo'y biglang nakatanggap ng ganitong mensahe, huwag bubuksan agad ang mga link. Magtanong muna sa LGUs/ospital bago maniwala.

      https://i.imgur.com/V1Glvgw.jpg

      Maging maingat as always hindi lamang sa COVID-19 pati na rin sa mga ganitong scheme. Maaaring naglalaman 'yan ng virus or what. Huwag basta-basta click nang click.

      Source: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2883825805004871&id=1977102099010584
      Read more: https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/do-not-click-the-link-police-warn-of-scam-covid-19-text-messages


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on April 21, 2020, 06:11:15 AM
      just heard a piece of news about Duterte offering up to 10 million pesos to any Filipino who can find a vaccine to COVID-19.

      Code:
      https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/04/21/20/duterte-offers-10-million-reward-money-for-coronavirus-covid19-vaccine?fbclid=IwAR0MCDdPsgrwFu9S1bywK-f-5UYZze2rvBAuBBfD6KLvnpMUuiEwO4FDDhs

      I like the idea of bringing competition in the field in order to hasten the research for those who want to get the reward. but wouldn't it also bring risk since if scientist hastens their research they could miss or skip some details in order to produce a product for trial testing?


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 21, 2020, 04:56:39 PM
      In hindsight, the martial law like implementation of the ECQ should have been done since the beginning. I believe this was Vietnam's approach kung bakit very successful sila sa pag-contain ng virus. Masyado din yatang umasa ang gobyerno natin na susunod lahat ng Pinoy sa stay at home at social distancing eh alam naman natin na marami sa atin ang may katigasan ang ulo.

      I'm personally disappointed that the government is only reacting to what's happening in our neighboring countries like Singapore and Japan. The recent increase in number of cases for both countries as a result of "easing up" triggered this stricter implementation of the ECQ. Well, at least we are seeing an adjustment (even if it's a bit late) as we head to the final week.

      Tingin ko ma-extend pa ito ng isa o dalawa pang linggo.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on April 22, 2020, 01:04:31 PM
      Sa aking opinyon ay hindi solusyon ang ECQ laban sa COVID 19...
      Actually hindi talaga sya solusyon... Isa syang prebentasyon dahil hangang sa kasalukuyan ay wala pa rin tayong solusyon. Ang ECQ, kung tutuusin ay epektibo kontra sa paglala ng pandemic virus na ito, kung hindi lang talaga nananaig ang kabobohan, kamangmangan, katangahan, at kung ano ano pang kabalastugan ng Pilipino.

      Kung sa una pa lang, kahit pa sabihin natin na hnd agad naipanawagan ng pangulo ang lockdown, kung sa una pa lang ay sumunod na tayo sa ECQ, hindi tayo aabot sa pagiging Top 1 sa ASEAN.



      Sa tingin nyo kaya mag eextend pa tayo? Gusto ko na bumili ng mga pangangailangan sa bahay pero walang mabilhan dahil halos sarado lahat.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Thirio on April 22, 2020, 02:42:36 PM
      Sa tingin nyo kaya mag eextend pa tayo? Gusto ko na bumili ng mga pangangailangan sa bahay pero walang mabilhan dahil halos sarado lahat.
      Kung ako ang tatanungin, mas pipiliin kong mag extend hanggat hindi pa naipapatupad nang maayos yung MASS TESTING. Kasi mass testing lang ang natatanging paraan para matukoy yung mga lugar na crucial, hanggat hindi pa na pipinpoint kung saang mga lugar lang talaga ang higit na naapektuhan ng virus, magsusuffer at magsusuffer ang karamihan. Pag na pinpoint mo kasi ang mga lugar na mayroon lang talaga, yung ibang karatig lugar pwede nang hindi naka lockdown, pwede nang kumilos para sa pag ahon. Kaya mag extend man o hindi, kung wala paring maayos na plano ang pamahalaan, kawawa parin ang mga Middle class at pababang mga Pilipino.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on April 22, 2020, 02:46:57 PM
      Sa tingin nyo kaya mag eextend pa tayo? Gusto ko na bumili ng mga pangangailangan sa bahay pero walang mabilhan dahil halos sarado lahat.
      Kung ako ang tatanungin, mas pipiliin kong mag extend hanggat hindi pa naipapatupad nang maayos yung MASS TESTING.
      Ahm, pwede din siguro mag extend pero pause muna ng 3 days pahinga kumbaga para makapag restock ang lahat, I mean magkaroon ng konting pagluwag sa pagbabantay para makapasok ung mga deliveries.

      Atska actually yang Mass Testing na yan, hindi ako tiwala dyan sa totoo lang. Mag kocause lang lalo yan ng panic dahil pag yan pumalpak nganga na naman ang lahat. For example mag positive ang isang nilalang pero un pala palyado lang ung device.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: finaleshot2016 on April 24, 2020, 12:54:10 AM
      Sa tingin nyo kaya mag eextend pa tayo? Gusto ko na bumili ng mga pangangailangan sa bahay pero walang mabilhan dahil halos sarado lahat.
      Kung ako ang tatanungin, mas pipiliin kong mag extend hanggat hindi pa naipapatupad nang maayos yung MASS TESTING.
      Ahm, pwede din siguro mag extend pero pause muna ng 3 days pahinga kumbaga para makapag restock ang lahat, I mean magkaroon ng konting pagluwag sa pagbabantay para makapasok ung mga deliveries.

      Atska actually yang Mass Testing na yan, hindi ako tiwala dyan sa totoo lang. Mag kocause lang lalo yan ng panic dahil pag yan pumalpak nganga na naman ang lahat. For example mag positive ang isang nilalang pero un pala palyado lang ung device.
      Speaking of extension, nakapag-announce na si President Duterte ng extension ng ECQ or Enhanced Community Quarantine sa mga iilang lugar dito sa ating bansa hanggang May 15, 2020:
      - National Capital Region
      - Region 3 (Central Luzon)
      - Region 4-A (Calabarzon)
      - Province of Pangasinan
      - Province of Benguet
      - Island of Mindoro
      - Province of Albay
      - Island of Catanduanes
      - Province of Antique
      - Province of Iloilo
      - Island of Cebu
      - Davao City

      Para naman sa ibang lugar especially provinces na may minimal cases which is moderate at low risk na areas sa COVID-19, Sila ay magkakaroon ng GCQ or General Community Quarantine simula sa May 1, 2020.



      For those who are still studying, since Mass Promotion is an issue due to COVID-19, may I ask if pabor ba kayo dito?

      For me, yes kasi sobrang delikado na ang lumabas ngayon. Kahit naman matapos na ang quarantine, mahirap pa rin i-ensure ang safety especially sa isang school/university na maraming students. Isa yan sa mga prone sa pagka-spread ng virus dahil dikit dikit at nasa iisang area lang. We can't risk our lives again just for grades, our country is currently facing a serious problem sa pagresulba ng COVID-19 so it's not good to resume classes. Some family can't afford to give allowances to their children when going to school. Lahat kasi ng tao ngayon ay back from the start, kaya mahirap pumasok kapag alam mong walang wala kang resources. Also, hindi naman lahat ng students kayang i-adapt yung ibang alternative ways of learnings especially online classes. So pabor na pabor ako sa Mass Promotion, and I hope ma-implement na ito agad para wala ng ibang iisipin ang students bukod sa kanilang safety.

      Iniisip pa rin ng CHED yung effect ng pag-suspend ng class, pero sa tingin ko ay dapat nilang mas pagtuunan or pagplanuhan ang mga bagay para sa mga sumusunod ng buwan. Kailangan nilang paghandaan yung effect which is kakulangan sa kaalaman ng mga students, sa pamamagitan ng pag iimplement ng mga programs na makakapag-cope up ang mga students sa mga nasayang na panahon sa pagaaral.

      I want to hear some opinions from others.
      #MassPromotionNow


      • IATF recommends opening of classes in September (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/735403/iatf-recommends-opening-of-classes-in-september/story/?just_in)
      • Duterte extends enhanced community quarantine in NCR, other 'high-risk' areas (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/735382/duterte-extends-enhanced-community-quarantine-in-ncr-7-other-high-risk-areas/story/)
      • Enhanced community quarantine extended in Metro Manila, other provinces (https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/4/24/Enhanced-community-quarantine-extended-Philippines-Duterte-COVID-19.html?fbclid=IwAR2kofPEymVjLhtEOzb4odOwiYqoAK3JBlsQEIL3kCWpqPhSOZmp9tYUhvU)
      • CHED hits proposal to suspend classes until December (https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/04/23/2009197/ched-hits-proposal-suspend-classes-until-december?fbclid=IwAR1WUhQBu4u4TSY9mzR9n-gME2pD3qW1egLqD3VbyF0CwUKGsDcQW6tjGUU)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: GDragon on April 24, 2020, 01:30:28 AM
      Ahm, pwede din siguro mag extend pero pause muna ng 3 days pahinga kumbaga para makapag restock ang lahat, I mean magkaroon ng konting pagluwag sa pagbabantay para makapasok ung mga deliveries.

      Atska actually yang Mass Testing na yan, hindi ako tiwala dyan sa totoo lang. Mag kocause lang lalo yan ng panic dahil pag yan pumalpak nganga na naman ang lahat. For example mag positive ang isang nilalang pero un pala palyado lang ung device.

      Feeling ko mas nganga lahat if walang mass testing. Ang dapat dito, mass testing using an ACCURATE testing kit. Yung sure na tama ang lalabas. Kung madaming mag positive after the testing, magpapanic ang ilan pero hindi ba't mas okay na nakilala na natin kung sinong may dala ng sakit? Hindi na siya mamamalengke or mag gogorocery kasi alam na niyang carrier na siya ng virus. Kaysa naman patuloy na kumalat yung virus kasi hindi na-test 'yung mga asymptomatic positive patients, magpapatuloy ang hawaan. Mas malalaman natin kung anong sunod na hakbang with accurate testing. Mas matatapos 'to nang mas mabilis.

      Kasi kung matatakot tayong mag testing dahil magpapanic ang lahat. Magtatagal tayong magtatago sa loob ng bahay dahil hindi natin makikita kung nasaan ba talaga ang kalaban, kailangan nating makita ang virus para makaiwas tayo. Testing ang sagot dun. Kaya ang ipagdasal natin, sana dumami na 'yung accurate testing kit.


      For those who are still studying, since Mass Promotion is an issue due to COVID-19, may I ask if pabor ba kayo dito?


      Pabor din ako, pero dapat merong malinaw na memorandum kung paano papasa ang isang estudyante. Nabasa ko kasi na kaya lang sila against sa mass promotion kasi wala silang policy. Hindi ba dapat gumagawa na silang policy para dun? Against sila dahil lang walang policy?

      Hindi ko rin kasi alam kung paano ba idedecide na ipasa ang isang estudyante, Paano ang ibang estudyante na hindi naman pumasok or with failing grades before the quarantine, ipapasa din ba siya, hindi ba yon unfair sa ibang estudyanteng nag work hard this sem? Kung bibigyan siya ng extra work during the quarantine para pumasa, meron ba siyang kakayahang gawin ang work na yun? signal, wifi, at enough resources to comply?

      Kailangang linawin ng ched ang lahat. Kung ayaw naman nila ng mass promotion, itutuloy ba nila ang sem habang wala pang kasiguraduhang tapos na ang crisis? Online class ba? Kung online class kasi mapag-iiwanan ang ibang walang resources, nasa krisis tayo at parang magiging kasalanan nilang mapag-iiwanan sila dahil don.  



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on April 24, 2020, 09:56:00 AM
      For those who are still studying, since Mass Promotion is an issue due to COVID-19, may I ask if pabor ba kayo dito?
      As a student, I'm fine with suspending the classes for the mean time pero sana naman hinfi umabot ng December. Alam ko din yung maaaaring maging consequences once na ituloy na ang pasok habang kumakalat pa ang virus. Kaya better na suspended muna sya kasi kaligtasan ng lahat ang nasa risk.

      Also as a student, hindi maiiwasan na may mga teacher na nagpapa activity online which is not good for everyone. Hindi lahat kaya gumastos para sa load, wifi, at hindi lahat may resources to do online activity. Sana maintindihan ng mga professors yun. About naman sa mass promotion, I don't fully agree with it especially pag nasa college ka na. For other students, baka hindi mag matter sa kanila. I would agree sa mass promotion kung onting days nalang naman before matapos ang school year. Pero kung ginagamit ang new school calendar which is August nag start, hindi sya maganda para sakin. Actually we still have our unfinished midterms. At mahaba pa yung days na kailangan namin bago matapos ang school year. Isa is yung mga nag te-take ng exam, hindi pwedeng basta basta ipasa yun.  Best example yung med students kasi in the future, they will handle patients at dapat talagang master nila yun.

      I just hope na matapos na ang pandemic na ito para bumalik na sa lahat ang dati. Sana hindi na ito umabot ng December, yung ibang bansa na handle nila kahit papano yung virus nang maayos at nakakalabas labas na sila kahit may threat pa rin. Sana tayo rin. Masyadong marami na ang nahihirapan.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 24, 2020, 02:51:36 PM
      Sa mga lugar na hindi nakasama sa Extended Community Quarantine (ECQ) at mag-transition na sa General Community Quarantine (GCQ) o yung tinatawag na "New normal" by May 1, alamin ang mga recommended guidelines ng IATF.

      • Pwede na magtrabaho ang mga manggagawa sa mga sections I, II, and III.
      • Yung mga bata (edad 0 to 20) at matatanda (edad 60 pataas) ay kailanganing manatili pa din sa kanilang tahanan.
      • Pinapayagan ng magbukas ang mga malls pero limited lang ang operation sa mga non-leisure shops.
      • Pinapayagan na din yung mga priority at essential construction projects.
      • Yung mga non-workers ay pwede na din bumili ng mga goods and services except those pertaining to category IV (yung para sa leisure at sa mga kids).
      • Some public transport modes will be allowed to operate at reduced capacity.
      • LGUs to enforce curfew at night para sa mga hindi naman nagtatrabaho.
      • Wala ng Social Amelioration Program (SAP) sa mga GCQ areas dahil i-prioritize ang mga nasa ECQ areas.
      • Higher Education Institutions school year will be allowed to finish the school year anf to give credentials to students.
      • Bubuksan ang mga airports at seaports pero limited pa din sa mga tranportation ng Goods lang. No commercial flights.
      • Ang ilang industriya ay allowed ng magbukas up to 100% capacity kagaya ng agriculture, fishery & forestry, food manufacturing, food retail, at supermarket.
      • Consider for 100% closure pa din ang ibang establishments kasama ang schools (recommended opening will be as early as September), leisure amusement, gaming, fitness, kid industry at tourism.

      Bawal pa din pala ang dine in sa mga restaurants ;D

      Panoorin na lang ang video source (https://www.facebook.com/pcoogov/videos/953972851672166/) para sa ibang detalye.

      Sundin pa din natin ang social distancing at wearing of face mask. Huwag din tumambay sa mall  :P


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on April 24, 2020, 03:32:20 PM
      CHED hits proposal to suspend classes until December
      Medyo dito ako tutol, okay lang sana kung sa pag suspinde nila ay katulad nitong nakaraan na matik pasado ang estudyante at bahala na lang mag self study. Pero kung sususpindihin tapos madadagdagan ang panahon na sa pag aaral abay lintik. Urat na urat na ko at gusto ko ng makapag hanap ng matinong trabaho kaya gusto ko na agad makatapos, tapos magkakaroon ng ganitong implementasyon...

      Although naiintindihan ko yung point kung bakit pero dapat magbigay sila ng mas malinaw na detalye ukol dito.


      Also as a student, hindi maiiwasan na may mga teacher na nagpapa activity online which is not good for everyone. Hindi lahat kaya gumastos para sa load, wifi, at hindi lahat may resources to do online activity. Sana maintindihan ng mga professors yun.
      Medyo hindi ako sang ayon dito lalo na para sa mga pinapaaral lang ng magulang. Well, hindi naman talaga dapat gumastos sa pag aaral, pero kung ang studyante ay nasa mga semi or private talaga na unibersidad abay kalokohan naman atang magrereklamo ka sa mga gastusin at hindi handa sa mga extra extra at chechebureche ng mga prof. Lalo na kung isa ka lang dakilang palamunin at paaral, at kailangan mo lang gaein ay sabihin ito sa guardian at ang obligasyon mo ay mag aral. Wala din namang naitutulong ang pagrereklamo dahil una pa lang nandyan na yan. Kung ayaw gumastos feel free na lumipat o di kaya magpatayo sila ng sarili nilang school.

      Ang studyante dapat nagaaral lang maliban kung pinapaaral at binubuhay nya sarili nya tulad ko LoL. Hindi yan dapat sumasalu sa kung ano anong katarantaduhan katulad ng rally o kung ano mang negatibo na hnd naman nakakatulong sa ekonomiya.

      Bawal pa din pala ang dine in sa mga restaurants ;D
      Uo bro, GG kasi yan baka mahawaan din ung mga service crew pagnagkataon.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: finaleshot2016 on April 24, 2020, 03:37:30 PM
      For those who are still studying, since Mass Promotion is an issue due to COVID-19, may I ask if pabor ba kayo dito?
      As a student, I'm fine with suspending the classes for the mean time pero sana naman hinfi umabot ng December. Alam ko din yung maaaaring maging consequences once na ituloy na ang pasok habang kumakalat pa ang virus. Kaya better na suspended muna sya kasi kaligtasan ng lahat ang nasa risk.

      Also as a student, hindi maiiwasan na may mga teacher na nagpapa activity online which is not good for everyone. Hindi lahat kaya gumastos para sa load, wifi, at hindi lahat may resources to do online activity. Sana maintindihan ng mga professors yun. About naman sa mass promotion, I don't fully agree with it especially pag nasa college ka na. For other students, baka hindi mag matter sa kanila. I would agree sa mass promotion kung onting days nalang naman before matapos ang school year. Pero kung ginagamit ang new school calendar which is August nag start, hindi sya maganda para sakin. Actually we still have our unfinished midterms. At mahaba pa yung days na kailangan namin bago matapos ang school year. Isa is yung mga nag te-take ng exam, hindi pwedeng basta basta ipasa yun.  Best example yung med students kasi in the future, they will handle patients at dapat talagang master nila yun.

      I just hope na matapos na ang pandemic na ito para bumalik na sa lahat ang dati. Sana hindi na ito umabot ng December, yung ibang bansa na handle nila kahit papano yung virus nang maayos at nakakalabas labas na sila kahit may threat pa rin. Sana tayo rin. Masyadong marami na ang nahihirapan.
      I appreciate and understand your opinion regarding mass promotion, if titignan natin yung side ng pagiging academic, yun talaga yung maiisip natin na may mga topics at unfinished exams pang dapat gawin. Marami rin akong unfinished exams sa aking major subject kasi August din ang start ng school calendar namin. Okay sanang hindi mag-mass promotion if tapos na ang ECQ ngayon ngunit extended siya ulit at mahihirapan ng i-adjust dahil super maapektuhan ang next school year and future events ng mga Accredited Professional Organization. Pero, mass promotion does not mean na hindi ka na magcocope-up sa mga subjects na hindi napag-aralan just because they already "passed" the subject. Since college students naman na tayo, I guess we should be more responsible at common thing na dapat sa atin ang mag-aral especially those courses na mahihirap like med and engineering course. Also, lack of smartphone to use as an academic tool is not an excuse, I doubt kahit isa sa pamilya ang walang smart phone kasi hindi na yan considered as luxury, necessities na ang pagkakaron ng smart phone to use as a communication tool din. Probably, the university will take action para maituro lahat ng mga nakaligtaan kasi alam naman na may mga subjects na prerequisite ng iba pa. Now, I can no longer think about the grades, I just want to ensure my own safety na if ever na hindi mag-suspend, fully-recovered at immune na dapat ang mga tao sa COVID-19. It's not worthy to die on this kind of situation na dahil pinilit mag-resume ng classes kahit hindi pa COVID-free ang pilipinas at mga kalapit na bansa.  

      Also, kung hindi maiimplement ang mass promotion, I hope na sana lahat ng tao ay may resources pa para makabalik ng paaralan. Iilan diyan wala ng pera pangbili ng pagkain at pamasahe papuntang school especially sa mga nasa state university kasi obvious naman na lahat ng tao ay back to zero at maraming bills na nagiintay sa kanila na magpapatong-patong. Anyways, we have a different stand and this is just my opinion, I really hope na bumalik na sa dati at maka-recover na ang lahat dahil sobrang laking changes nito sa buhay ng estudyante.

      CHED hits proposal to suspend classes until December
      Medyo dito ako tutol, okay lang sana kung sa pag suspinde nila ay katulad nitong nakaraan na matik pasado ang estudyante at bahala na lang mag self study. Pero kung sususpindihin tapos madadagdagan ang panahon na sa pag aaral abay lintik. Urat na urat na ko at gusto ko ng makapag hanap ng matinong trabaho kaya gusto ko na agad makatapos, tapos magkakaroon ng ganitong implementasyon...

      Although naiintindihan ko yung point kung bakit pero dapat magbigay sila ng mas malinaw na detalye ukol dito.
      Sobrang disagree ako diyan nag mag-continue ang classes after suspension, ang dami kasing sayang ng panahon sa case ng mga courses na may board exam. Especially sa mga higher year or graduating students, stress na yang mga yan and still aiming to finish the whole course. If they are really targeting the licenses talagang mag-aaral naman yan sila kahit sabihin nating merong mass promotion. Sa course ng mga wala, it should be normal na mag-aral lang palagi kasi sila rin naman maapektuhan kapag nag-work na. And besides, it's college, dapat talagang maging responsable kasi you'll receive failing grade kapag hindi nag-effort, the odds will not be in your favor kasi hindi na yan katulad ng high school.

      Also as a student, hindi maiiwasan na may mga teacher na nagpapa activity online which is not good for everyone. Hindi lahat kaya gumastos para sa load, wifi, at hindi lahat may resources to do online activity. Sana maintindihan ng mga professors yun.
      Medyo hindi ako sang ayon dito lalo na para sa mga pinapaaral lang ng magulang. Well, hindi naman talaga dapat gumastos sa pag aaral, pero kung ang studyante ay nasa mga semi or private talaga na unibersidad abay kalokohan naman atang magrereklamo ka sa mga gastusin at hindi handa sa mga extra extra at chechebureche ng mga prof. Lalo na kung isa ka lang dakilang palamunin at paaral, at kailangan mo lang gaein ay sabihin ito sa guardian at ang obligasyon mo ay mag aral. Wala din namang naitutulong ang pagrereklamo dahil una pa lang nandyan na yan. Kung ayaw gumastos feel free na lumipat o di kaya magpatayo sila ng sarili nilang school.
      Kaya rin naman tuloy ang mga online classes sa mga private university kasi para hindi bawiin ang tuition. Sa case ng friend ko, patuloy pa rin ang online classes nila kahit sobrang inefficient nito dahil hindi ready ang karamihan to implement online classes dahil kadalasan ng resources ng prof sa pagtuturo ay naiwan sa faculty nila sa university. Para ka lang din nanonood sa youtube ng tutorials at mas magaling pa magturo ang indian people especially sa math and engineering stuff. 



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: LogitechMouse on April 25, 2020, 06:44:27 AM
      CHED hits proposal to suspend classes until December
      Medyo dito ako tutol, okay lang sana kung sa pag suspinde nila ay katulad nitong nakaraan na matik pasado ang estudyante at bahala na lang mag self study. Pero kung sususpindihin tapos madadagdagan ang panahon na sa pag aaral abay lintik. Urat na urat na ko at gusto ko ng makapag hanap ng matinong trabaho kaya gusto ko na agad makatapos, tapos magkakaroon ng ganitong implementasyon...

      Although naiintindihan ko yung point kung bakit pero dapat magbigay sila ng mas malinaw na detalye ukol dito.
      Wag ka nang mag aral at maghanap ka na ng trabaho :D. Kahit naman hindi nakapagtapos makakahanap ka pa rin ng trabaho eh. Sabi nga ni Robert Kiyosaki "Schools are the biggest scammers" ;).
      Kidding aside, wala akong reaksyon dito sa proposal ng CHED na isuspend ang klase hanggang December dahil:

      1. Kahit walang pasok may sahod pa rin ang mga guro. Guro kasi ang mama ko kaya alam ko :D. Less stress para sa kanila dahil ang kukulit na ng mga bata ngayon pramis.
      2. Graduate na ako ng College pero kapag nag aaral ako for example pero ganito na ung mindset ko na scammers ang mga schools, di na rin ako gaganahan pumasok.
      3. Maraming tututol dito sigurado pero karamihan ng tinuturo nila ay di mo magagamit sa future. Trust me :). Ang galing ko nga sa math noon pero di ko ginagamit ngayon ung mga X or Y na yan gaya ng tinuro sa akin :D.

      Ito lang masasabi ko tungkol sa continuation ng classes. If nakikita ng government na may risks pag binalik ang classes ng mas maaga, syempre di sila magdadalawang isip na isuspend ito. Health over Education na ang pinag uusapan dito :D. Take note na ang target na time frame bago makagawa ng antivirus ang mga scientists ay 12-18 months mabilis pa un kaya magtatagal itong virus IMO.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on April 25, 2020, 10:35:13 AM
      Also as a student, hindi maiiwasan na may mga teacher na nagpapa activity online which is not good for everyone. Hindi lahat kaya gumastos para sa load, wifi, at hindi lahat may resources to do online activity. Sana maintindihan ng mga professors yun.
      Medyo hindi ako sang ayon dito lalo na para sa mga pinapaaral lang ng magulang. Well, hindi naman talaga dapat gumastos sa pag aaral, pero kung ang studyante ay nasa mga semi or private talaga na unibersidad abay kalokohan naman atang magrereklamo ka sa mga gastusin at hindi handa sa mga extra extra at chechebureche ng mga prof. Lalo na kung isa ka lang dakilang palamunin at paaral, at kailangan mo lang gaein ay sabihin ito sa guardian at ang obligasyon mo ay mag aral. Wala din namang naitutulong ang pagrereklamo dahil una pa lang nandyan na yan. Kung ayaw gumastos feel free na lumipat o di kaya magpatayo sila ng sarili nilang school.

      Ang studyante dapat nagaaral lang maliban kung pinapaaral at binubuhay nya sarili nya tulad ko LoL. Hindi yan dapat sumasalu sa kung ano anong katarantaduhan katulad ng rally o kung ano mang negatibo na hnd naman nakakatulong sa ekonomiya.

      May point naman na kung sa private ka nag-aaral dapat prepared ka sa mga miscellaneous and extra expenses kahit pa sabihin natin na scholar ka lang. Hindi naman din talaga maiiwasan na hindi gumastos kasi nag-aaral ka. Kahit public, gagastos at gagastos ka. Pero I understand parin yung iba na kahit sobrang kapos, pinipilit parin mag-aral para makatapos.

      Naiintindihan ko kung ang ibang estudyante at ang kanilang pamilya ay walang wala talaga since hindi naman lahat may kaya. Pero ang ayoko lang din ay yung mga estudyante na nagrarally, na tipong lahat ng reklamo ay dinadaan sa rally. As a student, normal magreklamo pero hindi naman lahat kailangan dinadaan sa pag rarally. Pero kahit ayaw natin, hindi naman natin sila mapipigilan dahil yun ang paniniwala nila.

      Ako nga, kapag meron, minsan pinapaloadan ko ang mga kaklase ko pag kailangan nila kunwari pag may activity (para hindi na sila lalabas), pero syempre need parin nilang bayaran kapag nag resume na ang klase.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: TagaMungkahi on April 25, 2020, 01:02:43 PM
      Also as a student, hindi maiiwasan na may mga teacher na nagpapa activity online which is not good for everyone. Hindi lahat kaya gumastos para sa load, wifi, at hindi lahat may resources to do online activity. Sana maintindihan ng mga professors yun.
      Medyo hindi ako sang ayon dito lalo na para sa mga pinapaaral lang ng magulang. Well, hindi naman talaga dapat gumastos sa pag aaral, pero kung ang studyante ay nasa mga semi or private talaga na unibersidad abay kalokohan naman atang magrereklamo ka sa mga gastusin at hindi handa sa mga extra extra at chechebureche ng mga prof. Lalo na kung isa ka lang dakilang palamunin at paaral, at kailangan mo lang gaein ay sabihin ito sa guardian at ang obligasyon mo ay mag aral. Wala din namang naitutulong ang pagrereklamodahil una pa lang nandyan na yan. Kung ayaw gumastos feel free na lumipat o di kaya magpatayo sila ng sarili nilang school.

      Ang studyante dapat nagaaral lang maliban kung pinapaaral at binubuhay nya sarili nya tulad ko LoL. Hindi yan dapat sumasalu sa kung ano anong katarantaduhan katulad ng rally o kung ano mang negatibo na hnd naman nakakatulong sa ekonomiya.
      Unang una sa lahat hindi lahat ng tao katulad mo na kayang mag sustento sa sarili niyang pag aaral. Ikalawa, Hindi rin lahat ng nag susustento sa sarili niya ay kaya gumastos para sa resources para makapag aral sa bahay at makapg submit ng school works, marami sa mga may trabaho katulad ng service crew(na kadalasang trabaho ng mga working student) ay nawalan ng trabaho dahil merong ECQ.

      Provided dapat ng School yun at sa School dapat yun gagawin, eh kaso nga sarado. Gamitan natin ng Logic kung bakit sila nagrereklamo. They are making it Mandaroty with the fact that not all of the students have the resources to do school works from home. hindi pwedeng humindi at magreklamo?,

      May nagagawa ang pagrereklamo, lalo na sa mga ganitong bagay dahil tinatanggalan ng pagkakataon (dahil walang resources) ang mga mag aaral na makapag aral nang maayos. Ibang usapin din ang pagrarally at higit sa lahat hindi yan katarantaduhan na negatibo at hindi nakakatulong sa ekonomiya, Kung may lugar lang na pwede mapakinggan ang hinaing ng mga rallyista para sa katanggap tanggap nilang adhikain at reklamo, malamang hindi sila magrarally.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on April 25, 2020, 03:35:34 PM
      Wag ka nang mag aral at maghanap ka na ng trabaho :D. Kahit naman hindi nakapagtapos makakahanap ka pa rin ng trabaho eh. Sabi nga ni Robert Kiyosaki "Schools are the biggest scammers" ;).
      Indeed, pero napatunayan ko na din na iba pa din ang may papel. Laki ng discrimination sa ganyan, muntik na nga akong mapasabak sa korea dati para sumama dun sa tropa kong nagtrabho dun. Kaso napigilan  ni waifu ✌️😂.



      Also as a student, hindi maiiwasan na may mga teacher na nagpapa activity online which is not good for everyone. Hindi lahat kaya gumastos para sa load, wifi, at hindi lahat may resources to do online activity. Sana maintindihan ng mga professors yun.
      Medyo hindi ako sang ayon dito lalo na para sa mga pinapaaral lang ng magulang. Well, hindi naman talaga dapat gumastos sa pag aaral, pero kung ang studyante ay nasa mga semi or private talaga na unibersidad abay kalokohan naman atang magrereklamo ka sa mga gastusin at hindi handa sa mga extra extra at chechebureche ng mga prof. Lalo na kung isa ka lang dakilang palamunin at paaral, at kailangan mo lang gaein ay sabihin ito sa guardian at ang obligasyon mo ay mag aral. Wala din namang naitutulong ang pagrereklamodahil una pa lang nandyan na yan. Kung ayaw gumastos feel free na lumipat o di kaya magpatayo sila ng sarili nilang school.

      Ang studyante dapat nagaaral lang maliban kung pinapaaral at binubuhay nya sarili nya tulad ko LoL. Hindi yan dapat sumasalu sa kung ano anong katarantaduhan katulad ng rally o kung ano mang negatibo na hnd naman nakakatulong sa ekonomiya.
      Unang una sa lahat hindi lahat ng tao katulad mo na kayang mag sustento sa sarili niyang pag aaral. Ikalawa, Hindi rin lahat ng nag susustento sa sarili niya ay kaya gumastos para sa resources para makapag aral sa bahay at makapg submit ng school works, marami sa mga may trabaho katulad ng service crew(na kadalasang trabaho ng mga working student) ay nawalan ng trabaho dahil merong ECQ.

      Provided dapat ng School yun at sa School dapat yun gagawin, eh kaso nga sarado. Gamitan natin ng Logic kung bakit sila nagrereklamo. They are making it Mandaroty with the fact that not all of the students have the resources to do school works from home. hindi pwedeng humindi at magreklamo?,

      May nagagawa ang pagrereklamo, lalo na sa mga ganitong bagay dahil tinatanggalan ng pagkakataon (dahil walang resources) ang mga mag aaral na makapag aral nang maayos. Ibang usapin din ang pagrarally at higit sa lahat hindi yan katarantaduhan na negatibo at hindi nakakatulong sa ekonomiya, Kung may lugar lang na pwede mapakinggan ang hinaing ng mga rallyista para sa katanggap tanggap nilang adhikain at reklamo, malamang hindi sila magrarally.
      Parang may sinabi din ako na ang tinutukoy ko dito ay yung mga estudyante na nagaaral sa mga pribado at mga paaral lang ng magulang.

      And like what I said, bago pa man tumuntong ang studyante sa paaralan na kung ano man yan, nandyan na ang mga patakaran, at tulad din ng sinabi ko maraming choice. Pwede ka naman magaral sa mababa at pampublikong paaralan dun walang gastos sagit ng gobyerno. Pero kung magpupumilit ka na baguhin ang patakaran sa mga pribadong sektor abay isang katarantaduhan at kamangmangan iyon.

      Isang tanong para dyan, sino ka ba? Estudyante ka lang, kung ayaw mo dito pwede kang lumipat... Hindi yung magrarally ka dahil mataas tuition. LoL. Nakakatawa yung mga ganyang ugali. Marami akong kilala nakapagtapos sa mga hindi kilalang paaralan pero nasaan ngayon mataas pa ang narating kesa sa mga nagtapos sa mga kilalang paaralan.



      Ang point dito yung mga runung runungan, matutong sumunod na lang. Ulitin natin, kung nasa pribado kang paaralan tapos magrereklamo ka kalokohan yun, magtiis ka.

      Sa panahon ngayon bro hindi excuse yung hindi sapat. Effort lang ang sagot diyan...

      Sagutin ko lang din:

      Unang una sa lahat hindi lahat ng tao katulad mo na kayang mag sustento sa sarili niyang pag aaral.
      👉Hindi sa pagmamayabang pero Pagsusumikap ang sagot dyan.

      -dumaan din ako sa hirap
      -naranasan kong hindi kumain sa isang araw
      -magtinda sa lansangan
      -umextra sa mga kaklase kong tamad
      -magservice crew
      -mabaon sa utang
      -palayasin sa inuupahan

      Kung ano man ako ngayon, 25 ako ngayon LoL nagaaral pa rin ako, bago ako makaahon kung ano ano naranasan kong hirap, kaya kung ano man ang mga rason na yan di ko tanggap, dahil bakit ako nakayanan ko... Diskarte lang yan. Yan ang kulang sa karamihan sa kabataan ngayon. Masyadong spoonfeed.

      Di porke nawalan ka ng trabho sa pag service crew tigil ka na. May serbisyo ang barangay, may lokal na pamahalaan.

      Kung medyo hard yung pananalita ko, sorry po pero hindi ko kasi tanggap ung mga pangangatwiran na ganyan dahil ako mismo naranasan kong kumayod at maghirap. Hindi rin excuse yung kasabihan na "magkaiba tayo" LoL tatawanan ko lang yan. Diskarte ang sagot. Lamang ang madiskarte sa matalino.

      Ikalawa, Hindi rin lahat ng nag susustento sa sarili niya ay kaya gumastos para sa resources para makapag aral sa bahay at makapg submit ng school works, marami sa mga may trabaho katulad ng service crew(na kadalasang trabaho ng mga working student) ay nawalan ng trabaho dahil merong ECQ.
      Just like what I said, it only applies on students na nagaaral sa mga pribado. Kung ikaw service crew ka at nagpupumilit ka sa makapasok sa private eh anong pagiisip meron ka? Then magrereklamo madaming gastos sa school, may paxerox si prof, paproject. May choice tayo.




      Magreklamo yung talagang apektado, pero kung isang hamak na palamunin tapos nakakapag facebook pa at wala kang magawa kundi batikos eh kamang mangan yun, hindi yun pakikiisa o pakikisama sa mga apektado.
      Sa halip na ung pagpepeysbuk ng ginagawa ng kabataan eh nagaaral, sa halip na yung ikinekendeng ng mga bata sa tiktok e nagbabasa ng makakatuturan.

      Resources napakarami nyan, sa facebook meron din dyan actually ang kaso inuuna ung pangkaligayahan.

      https://i.ibb.co/QFkD8KB/20200425-234552.jpg
      And yes, seryoso po ako sa pinagrereply ko ✌️😁
      Panget kasi mostly ugali ng kabataan ngayon, Legit.



      Lastly pakibasa: (nandito ang punto)

      May point naman na kung sa private ka nag-aaral dapat prepared ka sa mga miscellaneous and extra expenses kahit pa sabihin natin na scholar ka lang. Hindi naman din talaga maiiwasan na hindi gumastos kasi nag-aaral ka. Kahit public, gagastos at gagastos ka. Pero I understand parin yung iba na kahit sobrang kapos, pinipilit parin mag-aral para makatapos.

      Naiintindihan ko kung ang ibang estudyante at ang kanilang pamilya ay walang wala talaga since hindi naman lahat may kaya. Pero ang ayoko lang din ay yung mga estudyante na nagrarally, na tipong lahat ng reklamo ay dinadaan sa rally. As a student, normal magreklamo pero hindi naman lahat kailangan dinadaan sa pag rarally. Pero kahit ayaw natin, hindi naman natin sila mapipigilan dahil yun ang paniniwala nila.

      Ako nga, kapag meron, minsan pinapaloadan ko ang mga kaklase ko pag kailangan nila kunwari pag may activity (para hindi na sila lalabas), pero syempre need parin nilang bayaran kapag nag resume na ang klase.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Wallflower28 on April 25, 2020, 11:58:35 PM
      For those who are still studying, since Mass Promotion is an issue due to COVID-19, may I ask if pabor ba kayo dito?
      As a student, I'm fine with suspending the classes for the mean time pero sana naman hinfi umabot ng December. Alam ko din yung maaaaring maging consequences once na ituloy na ang pasok habang kumakalat pa ang virus. Kaya better na suspended muna sya kasi kaligtasan ng lahat ang nasa risk.

      Also as a student, hindi maiiwasan na may mga teacher na nagpapa activity online which is not good for everyone. Hindi lahat kaya gumastos para sa load, wifi, at hindi lahat may resources to do online activity. Sana maintindihan ng mga professors yun. About naman sa mass promotion, I don't fully agree with it especially pag nasa college ka na. For other students, baka hindi mag matter sa kanila. I would agree sa mass promotion kung onting days nalang naman before matapos ang school year. Pero kung ginagamit ang new school calendar which is August nag start, hindi sya maganda para sakin. Actually we still have our unfinished midterms. At mahaba pa yung days na kailangan namin bago matapos ang school year. Isa is yung mga nag te-take ng exam, hindi pwedeng basta basta ipasa yun.  Best example yung med students kasi in the future, they will handle patients at dapat talagang master nila yun.

      I just hope na matapos na ang pandemic na ito para bumalik na sa lahat ang dati. Sana hindi na ito umabot ng December, yung ibang bansa na handle nila kahit papano yung virus nang maayos at nakakalabas labas na sila kahit may threat pa rin. Sana tayo rin. Masyadong marami na ang nahihirapan.
      Yan ang dapat iassess ng ating gobyerno specially with the agency that holds education (DepEd) kasi maraming mga estudyante ang maaaring hindi rin makapag-aral thru online. Kasi nga lack of resources pa, but I think they can manage it by having a free access sa mga estudyante sa load and giving tools sa iba. May budget ang DepEd kaya dapat magreassess sila sa funding and budgeting or else walang pasok na buong taon.

      Sa panahon ng Covid, hindi lang health ang naaapektuhan kundi pati pagaaral ng bata, ekonomiya at kaayusan. Sana malagpasan natin toh.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on April 26, 2020, 12:22:18 AM
      CHED hits proposal to suspend classes until December
      Medyo dito ako tutol, okay lang sana kung sa pag suspinde nila ay katulad nitong nakaraan na matik pasado ang estudyante at bahala na lang mag self study. Pero kung sususpindihin tapos madadagdagan ang panahon na sa pag aaral abay lintik. Urat na urat na ko at gusto ko ng makapag hanap ng matinong trabaho kaya gusto ko na agad makatapos, tapos magkakaroon ng ganitong implementasyon...

      Although naiintindihan ko yung point kung bakit pero dapat magbigay sila ng mas malinaw na detalye ukol dito.
      Wag ka nang mag aral at maghanap ka na ng trabaho :D. Kahit naman hindi nakapagtapos makakahanap ka pa rin ng trabaho eh. Sabi nga ni Robert Kiyosaki "Schools are the biggest scammers" ;).
      Kidding aside, wala akong reaksyon dito sa proposal ng CHED na isuspend ang klase hanggang December dahil:

      1. Kahit walang pasok may sahod pa rin ang mga guro. Guro kasi ang mama ko kaya alam ko :D. Less stress para sa kanila dahil ang kukulit na ng mga bata ngayon pramis.
      2. Graduate na ako ng College pero kapag nag aaral ako for example pero ganito na ung mindset ko na scammers ang mga schools, di na rin ako gaganahan pumasok.
      3. Maraming tututol dito sigurado pero karamihan ng tinuturo nila ay di mo magagamit sa future. Trust me :). Ang galing ko nga sa math noon pero di ko ginagamit ngayon ung mga X or Y na yan gaya ng tinuro sa akin :D.

      Ito lang masasabi ko tungkol sa continuation ng classes. If nakikita ng government na may risks pag binalik ang classes ng mas maaga, syempre di sila magdadalawang isip na isuspend ito. Health over Education na ang pinag uusapan dito :D. Take note na ang target na time frame bago makagawa ng antivirus ang mga scientists ay 12-18 months mabilis pa un kaya magtatagal itong virus IMO.
      Mukhang sa lahat ng nasabi mo bro, dito ako medyo tututol. Lahat ng bagay sa mundo ay may kahulugan kung lalapatan mo ito ng kabuluhan. Magsisilbi sayong walang kwenta ang pag-aaral kasi sa tingin mo ay satisfied ka na dahil sa trabaho mo dito. Pero para sa akin, all of us need to educate. I believe in the saying that, absence of education is ignorance and ignorance is evil.

      Kahit sikat na mga taong naging mayaman na hindi satisfied dahil hindi sila tapos like Pacman and pomoy na nag-aral kahit pa successful na sila in their own field.

      Hindi rin ako pabor dun sa "schools are the biggest scammers" hehe. Bakit? Kung scammer ang school walang nakukuha jan. Eh satingin ko, maraming nakukuha sa paaralan. Skills, value, social aspect and intelligence. Education is long lasting. So, kung may profit ka na nakukuha, matatawag mo ba yan na scam?

      I want to emphasize bro that in your condition, masasabi mo na kahit hindi makapag-aral eh makakahanap ng trabaho. Ultimo kasambahay ngayon dapat high-school graduate na, kaya isang malaking kalokohan yan sakin. Unless na magigi kang entrepreneur or freelancer. Pero kahit nga sa field na yan, you need to be educated.

      Lastly, ang x and y ang dahilan kung bakit may mga building at infrastructure. Ang math ang dahilan sa mga inventions. Try to look out the essence of education bro.

      I am a licensed professional teacher kaya kung may maudlot man dahil sa pandemic na nangyayare, sana magkaroon ng paraan para mapagpatuloy ang pag-aaral ng mga bata. Kasi education is the key to success. Hindi masama na tapos ka, ang masama eh yung wala kang alam sa mundo.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: LogitechMouse on April 26, 2020, 01:58:02 AM
      Mukhang sa lahat ng nasabi mo bro, dito ako medyo tututol. Lahat ng bagay sa mundo ay may kahulugan kung lalapatan mo ito ng kabuluhan. Magsisilbi sayong walang kwenta ang pag-aaral kasi sa tingin mo ay satisfied ka na dahil sa trabaho mo dito. Pero para sa akin, all of us need to educate. I believe in the saying that, absence of education is ignorance and ignorance is evil.

      Kahit sikat na mga taong naging mayaman na hindi satisfied dahil hindi sila tapos like Pacman and pomoy na nag-aral kahit pa successful na sila in their own field.

      Hindi rin ako pabor dun sa "schools are the biggest scammers" hehe. Bakit? Kung scammer ang school walang nakukuha jan. Eh satingin ko, maraming nakukuha sa paaralan. Skills, value, social aspect and intelligence. Education is long lasting. So, kung may profit ka na nakukuha, matatawag mo ba yan na scam?

      I want to emphasize bro that in your condition, masasabi mo na kahit hindi makapag-aral eh makakahanap ng trabaho. Ultimo kasambahay ngayon dapat high-school graduate na, kaya isang malaking kalokohan yan sakin. Unless na magigi kang entrepreneur or freelancer. Pero kahit nga sa field na yan, you need to be educated.

      Lastly, ang x and y ang dahilan kung bakit may mga building at infrastructure. Ang math ang dahilan sa mga inventions. Try to look out the essence of education bro.

      I am a licensed professional teacher kaya kung may maudlot man dahil sa pandemic na nangyayare, sana magkaroon ng paraan para mapagpatuloy ang pag-aaral ng mga bata. Kasi education is the key to success. Hindi masama na tapos ka, ang masama eh yung wala kang alam sa mundo.
      First of all, gusto kong humingi ng apologize sau at sa mga natamaan ng sinabi ko gayunpaman salute at saka respeto pa rin sa mga kagaya mong Professional Teachers. Kung wala kayo, hindi ako at ang mga ibang tao dito ang makakagraduate at makakakuha ng diploma na makakatulong sa kanilang paghahanap ng work.

      Pangalawa, magkaiba tayo ng mindset. Kasalanan to ni Robert Kiyosaki dahil sa pagshare nya ng mga totoong nangyayari :D. Kidding aside, di porket sinabi ko na scammers na ang school ay literal na scammers na. Sana wag nang maging debate to para sa atin at sa mga ibang users dito sa forum pero sasabihin ko lang ang own opinyon ko base sa sinabi mo. Siguro masiado akong exaggerated sa term na ginamit ko na scammers ang schools. Sa bansa natin un ang naimulat na nakasanayan na dapat makatapos ka ng pagaaral, makahanap ka ng trabaho at mag ipon para sa future. Sa paraang ito, di uunlad ang mga tao. Bakit? Kasi karamihan sa kanila ay nananatiling empleyado hanggang tumanda dahil nakakatikim na sila ng paychecks. Wala silang time at dedication para matuto pa ng ibang mga skills kasi nga kumikita na sila. If gusto nating umunlad, magiging one-sided ako sa part na ito pero need natin na maging entrepreneurs at business owners at hindi empleyado. 

      Di ko sinasabing di importante ang pag aaral. Ang point ko is if gusto mong umunlad sa buhay, kulang ang napagaralan mo sa school para maabot un at dapat maghanap ka pa ng ibang ways para umunlad at maraming paraan para matuto tau ng ibang mga skills. Importante pa rin ang diploma para sa atin para makahanap tau ng trabaho. Sadyang ang nasa isip ko lang ay iba.

      Tungkol naman sa sinabi ko na makakahanap ng trabaho kahit di makapag aral, I will stand dito sa sinabi ko. Marami nang successful ngayon na hindi nakapagtapos ng pagaaral pero marangya na ang buhay at di ko na need mag mention. Yes naging freelancers sila at entrepreneurs at un ang way nila para umunlad, bagay na di naituturo sa karamihan ng mga schools ngaun. Mejo malungkot ako dahil ganun ang nangyayari pero sadyang ganun na nga ang nangyayari.

      Mukhang tama nga ung sinabi ko sa #3 na may tututol pero di na bago sa akin un since walang opinyon ang puro sang ayon ;). Different people = different mindsets. Lahat tau kailangang mageducate para maging successful pero aun nga lang sa ibang paraan. Hindi lang ung natutunan natin sa schools ang dapat nating gamitin. Yes makakatulong ang mga yun aat magiging stepping stone natin un para sa financial freedom pero need pa rin natin matuto sa ibang paraan.

      Mahalaga ang pagaaral para sa ating mga pinoy alam naman natin yan. Ang punto ko lamang ay di sapat ang natutunan natin sa schools para maging maunlad tayo sa buhay. Dun sa unang sinabi ko sa last post ko, may halong biro un kaya may smiley na ;D.

      Anyway, no hard feelings sau bro at gaya ng sinabi ko may respeto ako sa mga guro dito since guro din ang Mother ko. Sadyang iba lang ang mindset na nakalakihan ko sa mindset ng mga tao dito sa paligid ko kaya ganun ang nasabi ko. Either way, humihingi ako ng paumanhin if na offend man kita sa mga nasabi ko at sana wala kang sama ng loob sa akin :).

      P.S. After ko maipost ang post na ito mag quiquit na ako dito sa forum  :D :D :D JK.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on April 26, 2020, 04:32:42 AM
      Mukhang sa lahat ng nasabi mo bro, dito ako medyo tututol. Lahat ng bagay sa mundo ay may kahulugan kung lalapatan mo ito ng kabuluhan. Magsisilbi sayong walang kwenta ang pag-aaral kasi sa tingin mo ay satisfied ka na dahil sa trabaho mo dito. Pero para sa akin, all of us need to educate. I believe in the saying that, absence of education is ignorance and ignorance is evil.

      Kahit sikat na mga taong naging mayaman na hindi satisfied dahil hindi sila tapos like Pacman and pomoy na nag-aral kahit pa successful na sila in their own field.

      Hindi rin ako pabor dun sa "schools are the biggest scammers" hehe. Bakit? Kung scammer ang school walang nakukuha jan. Eh satingin ko, maraming nakukuha sa paaralan. Skills, value, social aspect and intelligence. Education is long lasting. So, kung may profit ka na nakukuha, matatawag mo ba yan na scam?

      I want to emphasize bro that in your condition, masasabi mo na kahit hindi makapag-aral eh makakahanap ng trabaho. Ultimo kasambahay ngayon dapat high-school graduate na, kaya isang malaking kalokohan yan sakin. Unless na magigi kang entrepreneur or freelancer. Pero kahit nga sa field na yan, you need to be educated.

      Lastly, ang x and y ang dahilan kung bakit may mga building at infrastructure. Ang math ang dahilan sa mga inventions. Try to look out the essence of education bro.

      I am a licensed professional teacher kaya kung may maudlot man dahil sa pandemic na nangyayare, sana magkaroon ng paraan para mapagpatuloy ang pag-aaral ng mga bata. Kasi education is the key to success. Hindi masama na tapos ka, ang masama eh yung wala kang alam sa mundo.
      First of all, gusto kong humingi ng apologize sau at sa mga natamaan ng sinabi ko gayunpaman salute at saka respeto pa rin sa mga kagaya mong Professional Teachers. Kung wala kayo, hindi ako at ang mga ibang tao dito ang makakagraduate at makakakuha ng diploma na makakatulong sa kanilang paghahanap ng work.

      Pangalawa, magkaiba tayo ng mindset. Kasalanan to ni Robert Kiyosaki dahil sa pagshare nya ng mga totoong nangyayari :D. Kidding aside, di porket sinabi ko na scammers na ang school ay literal na scammers na. Sana wag nang maging debate to para sa atin at sa mga ibang users dito sa forum pero sasabihin ko lang ang own opinyon ko base sa sinabi mo. Siguro masiado akong exaggerated sa term na ginamit ko na scammers ang schools. Sa bansa natin un ang naimulat na nakasanayan na dapat makatapos ka ng pagaaral, makahanap ka ng trabaho at mag ipon para sa future. Sa paraang ito, di uunlad ang mga tao. Bakit? Kasi karamihan sa kanila ay nananatiling empleyado hanggang tumanda dahil nakakatikim na sila ng paychecks. Wala silang time at dedication para matuto pa ng ibang mga skills kasi nga kumikita na sila. If gusto nating umunlad, magiging one-sided ako sa part na ito pero need natin na maging entrepreneurs at business owners at hindi empleyado. 

      Di ko sinasabing di importante ang pag aaral. Ang point ko is if gusto mong umunlad sa buhay, kulang ang napagaralan mo sa school para maabot un at dapat maghanap ka pa ng ibang ways para umunlad at maraming paraan para matuto tau ng ibang mga skills. Importante pa rin ang diploma para sa atin para makahanap tau ng trabaho. Sadyang ang nasa isip ko lang ay iba.

      Tungkol naman sa sinabi ko na makakahanap ng trabaho kahit di makapag aral, I will stand dito sa sinabi ko. Marami nang successful ngayon na hindi nakapagtapos ng pagaaral pero marangya na ang buhay at di ko na need mag mention. Yes naging freelancers sila at entrepreneurs at un ang way nila para umunlad, bagay na di naituturo sa karamihan ng mga schools ngaun. Mejo malungkot ako dahil ganun ang nangyayari pero sadyang ganun na nga ang nangyayari.

      Mukhang tama nga ung sinabi ko sa #3 na may tututol pero di na bago sa akin un since walang opinyon ang puro sang ayon ;). Different people = different mindsets. Lahat tau kailangang mageducate para maging successful pero aun nga lang sa ibang paraan. Hindi lang ung natutunan natin sa schools ang dapat nating gamitin. Yes makakatulong ang mga yun aat magiging stepping stone natin un para sa financial freedom pero need pa rin natin matuto sa ibang paraan.

      Mahalaga ang pagaaral para sa ating mga pinoy alam naman natin yan. Ang punto ko lamang ay di sapat ang natutunan natin sa schools para maging maunlad tayo sa buhay. Dun sa unang sinabi ko sa last post ko, may halong biro un kaya may smiley na ;D.

      Anyway, no hard feelings sau bro at gaya ng sinabi ko may respeto ako sa mga guro dito since guro din ang Mother ko. Sadyang iba lang ang mindset na nakalakihan ko sa mindset ng mga tao dito sa paligid ko kaya ganun ang nasabi ko. Either way, humihingi ako ng paumanhin if na offend man kita sa mga nasabi ko at sana wala kang sama ng loob sa akin :).

      P.S. After ko maipost ang post na ito mag quiquit na ako dito sa forum  :D :D :D JK.
      Lol. Akin na lang account mo pag nagquit ka. Haha
      Kidding aside, I was not offended. I am just telling my own side and I knew it naman na respeto ka sa mga teacher based upon sa sinabi mo na nanay mo ay guro.

      Tama ka din naman na may mga bagay na hindi natuturo sa paaralan, may tinatawag tayong hidden curriculum / hidden learning. Pipwede na ang skills like entrepreneurship / freelancing ay hindi matutunan sa paaralan kasi learning does not occur in 4 corners of the classroom. But there is fundamentals.
      Tsaka, maraming umuunlad at nagiging marangyang estudyante na hindi katalinuhan. Karamihan nga eh yung mga naging tambay. Haha. Hal. ang mga A students ay nagiging loyal sa pagiging engineer samantalang yung C student eh nafocus sa pagvlog.

      Ang maganda siguro na mangyari ngayon ay innovation pagdating sa pag-aaral. Para hindi maging hadlang ang highly fortified enriched extended enhanced community quarantine para sa pag-aaral. Haha

      Dapat DepEd and Ched mismo ang gumawa ng paraan para hindi mastop at para hindi makunsume ang mga magulang sa load at internet ng mga bata.

      Satingin ko, load or free net na lang ang kailangan ifund kasi as I noticed to my past students na halos lahat may gadget na partida nasa probinsya ako. Hehe. And kung may mga estudyante talagang hindi makaavail ng cp(yun na lang ang bigyan) but I think there is a cp or gadget per household sa Pinas.

      Pero maiba, dapat siguro ngayon na ang time para mapromote ang online job like crypto trading, bounties and etc sa tao kasi kahit ECQ eh kumikita tayo.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: TagaMungkahi on April 26, 2020, 05:41:39 AM
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      Sir, I Understand your point po na ito ay patungkol sa mga nag aaral sa Private School Students na nagrereklamo sa School.
      I also understans na hindi naman talaga Okay na Magreklamo ang mga students na Anak Mayaman na Nagaaral sa Private na at beforehand , eh alam na niyang magastos tapos nagrereklamo siyang wala siyang resources, Kamangmangan nga po yun.
      But let's not generalize po. Here is what i am trying to explain.
      1. Let's not disregard the scholars ng mga private schools.
      2  Is Online Teaching and Activities really effective to the Phillipine current Education System? For me, Hindi po. Is Mass Promotion a better option? Yes. Stop the Online Classes.
      3. And What is the root of Student Complaints? Mahirap po kasi na Generalized and Subjective ang take sa ganitong discussion, and ang context po kasi ng Sinasabi ko is Students na nagrereklamo dahil wala (sila or yung kaklase o kaibigan nila) na resources ngayong ECQ.
      4. Magkaiba po ang Diskarte sa mga nabibigyan ng opportunity. Hindi ko iniinvalidate yung Pagsusumikap mo Sir , but your experience and opportunities can not be applied to everyone. "Bakit naman ako nagawa ko, Bakit yung iba hindi magawa" .
      "Diskarte lang yan" etc  etc., Hindi po parehas dahil hindi naman po lahat ng tao pare parehas ng opportunities. Regardless kung masipag sila, matiyaga, nagsusumikap kung walang opportunities wala din po silbi ang sipag, tiyaga at sikap ng isang tao.
      5. Yung pangbabatikos ng ibang student (na may kaya, palamunin lang at pinapaaral lang) hindi po ba pakikiisa yan sa mga students na walang wala talaga ? Hindi po ba dapat na maging boses ng mga kabataan na mahihirap yung kabataang may kakayahan para ipaabot yung mga reklamo nila? Hindi po ba ito matatawag na pakikiisa o pakikisimpatya?
      6. Ang resources po na tinutukoy ko mostly na wala ang mga student is Laptop and Internet. Wala po niyan sa Facebook.
      7. Sir I understand din na marami ang kabataan ngayon na aesthetics lang, tiktok, hugot lang. Legit po yan, they are Gen Z problematic talaga karamihan sa kanila but they are not the face of Kabataan.
      8. Isa po kasi ako sa natulungan ng pagrereklamo at pagrarally. Kaya ayaw ko po idemonize ang pag rarally at pagrereklamo at iinvalidate na wala itong naitutulong sa mga mahihirap. Hindi ko din po iniinvalidate yung perspective ninyo sa current na issue dahil po sa life experiences ninyo but i am only stating what i think is appropriate perspective on this Issue. Maybe we need an Objective Take or Maybe Let's Just Agree to Disagree, since we have different perspective on this issue.
      9. Lastly.......Paano po yang notification na parang text message? Kanina pa ako naghahanap wala akong makita na Tutorial.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 26, 2020, 07:21:12 AM
      ~
      9. Lastly.......Paano po yang notification na parang text message? Kanina pa ako naghahanap wala akong makita na Tutorial.
      Notification yan sa Telegram app, kailangan mo mag-subscribe. Kung wala kang app, pwede mo din site kung saan pwede makita kung sino ang nag-mention o nag-quote sa'yo. Check this tutorial - Notifications: Mention/Quote/Merit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210879)



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      1. PayMaya account ng empleyado

      Para sa mga employer at eligible employees: Siguraduhin na tama ang PayMaya account details sa inyong application submission.

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      Alamin kung ano ang pinakamalapit na MLhuillier branch: https://mlhuillier.com/branches/

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      Para sa mga employer at eligible employees: Siguraduhin na tama ang inilagay na bank account details sa application submission.

      Simula ngayong araw, maaari na rin pong ilagay ng mga employer ang bank account, PayMaya account o cellphone number ng kanilang mga empleyado sa kanilang SBWS application. Sa mga employer na nag-apply sa pamamagitan ng My.SSS, maaari pong i-click ang "Lacking Credentials" tab upang simulan ang proseso ng pagdagdag ng detalye ng empleyado.

      Para sa mga hindi pa nakakaalam, ang SBWS ay yung programa kung saan naglaan ang gobyerno ng Php 51 billion para mabigyan ng tulong ang mga 3.4 milyong empleyado ng 1.5 milyong small businesses sa buong bansa na naapektuhan ng quarantine. (more details (https://www.facebook.com/SSSPh/posts/10158580815442868))

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      P.S.
      Malas niyo na lang kung yung emplyer niyo ay hindi tax compliant. Isa kasi sa requirement para aprubahan yung mga aplikante ay dapat nagbabayad o nagremit ng withholding tax sa huling tatlong taon. Pagkakaalam ko yung withholding tax na tinutukoy dito ay yung tax na binabawas sa mga empleyado monthly/semi-monthly (meron kasi iba't ibang klase ng withholding tax).


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arwin100 on April 26, 2020, 07:24:36 AM
      Wag ka nang mag aral at maghanap ka na ng trabaho :D. Kahit naman hindi nakapagtapos makakahanap ka pa rin ng trabaho eh. Sabi nga ni Robert Kiyosaki "Schools are the biggest scammers" ;).
      Indeed, pero napatunayan ko na din na iba pa din ang may papel. Laki ng discrimination sa ganyan, muntik na nga akong mapasabak sa korea dati para sumama dun sa tropa kong nagtrabho dun. Kaso napigilan  ni waifu ✌️😂.



      Also as a student, hindi maiiwasan na may mga teacher na nagpapa activity online which is not good for everyone. Hindi lahat kaya gumastos para sa load, wifi, at hindi lahat may resources to do online activity. Sana maintindihan ng mga professors yun.
      Medyo hindi ako sang ayon dito lalo na para sa mga pinapaaral lang ng magulang. Well, hindi naman talaga dapat gumastos sa pag aaral, pero kung ang studyante ay nasa mga semi or private talaga na unibersidad abay kalokohan naman atang magrereklamo ka sa mga gastusin at hindi handa sa mga extra extra at chechebureche ng mga prof. Lalo na kung isa ka lang dakilang palamunin at paaral, at kailangan mo lang gaein ay sabihin ito sa guardian at ang obligasyon mo ay mag aral. Wala din namang naitutulong ang pagrereklamodahil una pa lang nandyan na yan. Kung ayaw gumastos feel free na lumipat o di kaya magpatayo sila ng sarili nilang school.

      Ang studyante dapat nagaaral lang maliban kung pinapaaral at binubuhay nya sarili nya tulad ko LoL. Hindi yan dapat sumasalu sa kung ano anong katarantaduhan katulad ng rally o kung ano mang negatibo na hnd naman nakakatulong sa ekonomiya.
      Unang una sa lahat hindi lahat ng tao katulad mo na kayang mag sustento sa sarili niyang pag aaral. Ikalawa, Hindi rin lahat ng nag susustento sa sarili niya ay kaya gumastos para sa resources para makapag aral sa bahay at makapg submit ng school works, marami sa mga may trabaho katulad ng service crew(na kadalasang trabaho ng mga working student) ay nawalan ng trabaho dahil merong ECQ.

      Provided dapat ng School yun at sa School dapat yun gagawin, eh kaso nga sarado. Gamitan natin ng Logic kung bakit sila nagrereklamo. They are making it Mandaroty with the fact that not all of the students have the resources to do school works from home. hindi pwedeng humindi at magreklamo?,

      May nagagawa ang pagrereklamo, lalo na sa mga ganitong bagay dahil tinatanggalan ng pagkakataon (dahil walang resources) ang mga mag aaral na makapag aral nang maayos. Ibang usapin din ang pagrarally at higit sa lahat hindi yan katarantaduhan na negatibo at hindi nakakatulong sa ekonomiya, Kung may lugar lang na pwede mapakinggan ang hinaing ng mga rallyista para sa katanggap tanggap nilang adhikain at reklamo, malamang hindi sila magrarally.
      Parang may sinabi din ako na ang tinutukoy ko dito ay yung mga estudyante na nagaaral sa mga pribado at mga paaral lang ng magulang.

      And like what I said, bago pa man tumuntong ang studyante sa paaralan na kung ano man yan, nandyan na ang mga patakaran, at tulad din ng sinabi ko maraming choice. Pwede ka naman magaral sa mababa at pampublikong paaralan dun walang gastos sagit ng gobyerno. Pero kung magpupumilit ka na baguhin ang patakaran sa mga pribadong sektor abay isang katarantaduhan at kamangmangan iyon.

      Isang tanong para dyan, sino ka ba? Estudyante ka lang, kung ayaw mo dito pwede kang lumipat... Hindi yung magrarally ka dahil mataas tuition. LoL. Nakakatawa yung mga ganyang ugali. Marami akong kilala nakapagtapos sa mga hindi kilalang paaralan pero nasaan ngayon mataas pa ang narating kesa sa mga nagtapos sa mga kilalang paaralan.



      Ang point dito yung mga runung runungan, matutong sumunod na lang. Ulitin natin, kung nasa pribado kang paaralan tapos magrereklamo ka kalokohan yun, magtiis ka.

      Sa panahon ngayon bro hindi excuse yung hindi sapat. Effort lang ang sagot diyan...

      Sagutin ko lang din:

      Unang una sa lahat hindi lahat ng tao katulad mo na kayang mag sustento sa sarili niyang pag aaral.
      👉Hindi sa pagmamayabang pero Pagsusumikap ang sagot dyan.

      -dumaan din ako sa hirap
      -naranasan kong hindi kumain sa isang araw
      -magtinda sa lansangan
      -umextra sa mga kaklase kong tamad
      -magservice crew
      -mabaon sa utang
      -palayasin sa inuupahan

      Kung ano man ako ngayon, 25 ako ngayon LoL nagaaral pa rin ako, bago ako makaahon kung ano ano naranasan kong hirap, kaya kung ano man ang mga rason na yan di ko tanggap, dahil bakit ako nakayanan ko... Diskarte lang yan. Yan ang kulang sa karamihan sa kabataan ngayon. Masyadong spoonfeed.

      Di porke nawalan ka ng trabho sa pag service crew tigil ka na. May serbisyo ang barangay, may lokal na pamahalaan.

      Kung medyo hard yung pananalita ko, sorry po pero hindi ko kasi tanggap ung mga pangangatwiran na ganyan dahil ako mismo naranasan kong kumayod at maghirap. Hindi rin excuse yung kasabihan na "magkaiba tayo" LoL tatawanan ko lang yan. Diskarte ang sagot. Lamang ang madiskarte sa matalino.

      Ikalawa, Hindi rin lahat ng nag susustento sa sarili niya ay kaya gumastos para sa resources para makapag aral sa bahay at makapg submit ng school works, marami sa mga may trabaho katulad ng service crew(na kadalasang trabaho ng mga working student) ay nawalan ng trabaho dahil merong ECQ.
      Just like what I said, it only applies on students na nagaaral sa mga pribado. Kung ikaw service crew ka at nagpupumilit ka sa makapasok sa private eh anong pagiisip meron ka? Then magrereklamo madaming gastos sa school, may paxerox si prof, paproject. May choice tayo.




      Magreklamo yung talagang apektado, pero kung isang hamak na palamunin tapos nakakapag facebook pa at wala kang magawa kundi batikos eh kamang mangan yun, hindi yun pakikiisa o pakikisama sa mga apektado.
      Sa halip na ung pagpepeysbuk ng ginagawa ng kabataan eh nagaaral, sa halip na yung ikinekendeng ng mga bata sa tiktok e nagbabasa ng makakatuturan.

      Resources napakarami nyan, sa facebook meron din dyan actually ang kaso inuuna ung pangkaligayahan.

      https://i.ibb.co/QFkD8KB/20200425-234552.jpg
      And yes, seryoso po ako sa pinagrereply ko ✌️😁
      Panget kasi mostly ugali ng kabataan ngayon, Legit.



      Lastly pakibasa: (nandito ang punto)

      May point naman na kung sa private ka nag-aaral dapat prepared ka sa mga miscellaneous and extra expenses kahit pa sabihin natin na scholar ka lang. Hindi naman din talaga maiiwasan na hindi gumastos kasi nag-aaral ka. Kahit public, gagastos at gagastos ka. Pero I understand parin yung iba na kahit sobrang kapos, pinipilit parin mag-aral para makatapos.

      Naiintindihan ko kung ang ibang estudyante at ang kanilang pamilya ay walang wala talaga since hindi naman lahat may kaya. Pero ang ayoko lang din ay yung mga estudyante na nagrarally, na tipong lahat ng reklamo ay dinadaan sa rally. As a student, normal magreklamo pero hindi naman lahat kailangan dinadaan sa pag rarally. Pero kahit ayaw natin, hindi naman natin sila mapipigilan dahil yun ang paniniwala nila.

      Ako nga, kapag meron, minsan pinapaloadan ko ang mga kaklase ko pag kailangan nila kunwari pag may activity (para hindi na sila lalabas), pero syempre need parin nilang bayaran kapag nag resume na ang klase.
      Sir, I Understand your point po na ito ay patungkol sa mga nag aaral sa Private School Students na nagrereklamo sa School.
      I also understans na hindi naman talaga Okay na Magreklamo ang mga students na Anak Mayaman na Nagaaral sa Private na at beforehand , eh alam na niyang magastos tapos nagrereklamo siyang wala siyang resources, Kamangmangan nga po yun.
      But let's not generalize po. Here is what i am trying to explain.
      1. Let's not disregard the scholars ng mga private schools.
      2  Is Online Teaching and Activities really effective to the Phillipine current Education System? For me, Hindi po. Is Mass Promotion a better option? Yes. Stop the Online Classes.
      3. And What is the root of Student Complaints? Mahirap po kasi na Generalized and Subjective ang take sa ganitong discussion, and ang context po kasi ng Sinasabi ko is Students na nagrereklamo dahil wala (sila or yung kaklase o kaibigan nila) na resources ngayong ECQ.
      4. Magkaiba po ang Diskarte sa mga nabibigyan ng opportunity. Hindi ko iniinvalidate yung Pagsusumikap mo Sir , but your experience and opportunities can not be applied to everyone. "Bakit naman ako nagawa ko, Bakit yung iba hindi magawa" .
      "Diskarte lang yan" etc  etc., Hindi po parehas dahil hindi naman po lahat ng tao pare parehas ng opportunities. Regardless kung masipag sila, matiyaga, nagsusumikap kung walang opportunities wala din po silbi ang sipag, tiyaga at sikap ng isang tao.
      5. Yung pangbabatikos ng ibang student (na may kaya, palamunin lang at pinapaaral lang) hindi po ba pakikiisa yan sa mga students na walang wala talaga ? Hindi po ba dapat na maging boses ng mga kabataan na mahihirap yung kabataang may kakayahan para ipaabot yung mga reklamo nila? Hindi po ba ito matatawag na pakikiisa o pakikisimpatya?
      6. Ang resources po na tinutukoy ko mostly na wala ang mga student is Laptop and Internet. Wala po niyan sa Facebook.
      7. Sir I understand din na marami ang kabataan ngayon na aesthetics lang, tiktok, hugot lang. Legit po yan, they are Gen Z problematic talaga karamihan sa kanila but they are not the face of Kabataan.
      8. Isa po kasi ako sa natulungan ng pagrereklamo at pagrarally. Kaya ayaw ko po idemonize ang pag rarally at pagrereklamo at iinvalidate na wala itong naitutulong sa mga mahihirap. Hindi ko din po iniinvalidate yung perspective ninyo sa current na issue dahil po sa life experiences ninyo but i am only stating what i think is appropriate perspective on this Issue. Maybe we need an Objective Take or Maybe Let's Just Agree to Disagree, since we have different perspective on this issue.
      9. Lastly.......Paano po yang notification na parang text message? Kanina pa ako naghahanap wala akong makita na Tutorial.




      Tol we understand your point, pero payag kaba na hanggang ganyan nalang talaga ang education system natin? napag iiwanan na tayo at sobra kaya nag isip ng paraan ang gobyerno kung pano ito ma implement at sa tingin mo ba hindi effective ang online teaching? Well Oo at hindi ang sagot dyan dahil Oo epektibo ito lalo na kung na sa mga estudyante na gustong matutoto at hindi pag bubulakbol ang laman ng utak, pero hindi ang sagot pag ang estudyante ay wala talagang interest sa klase. Kahit sa offline teaching alam naman natin na may mga estudyante parin ang kulang ang interest.


      So think about the good sight sa mga plano ng gobyerno dahil malaking convenient ito sa part ng teachers at mga estudyante.




      At isa pa Oo nakakatulong ang pagrarally nyo kung maganda naman talaga yung pinaglalaban nyo pero kung ito naman ay walang katuturan at walang pag-unlad o di kayay maitutulong then dapat pag-isipan nyo din cause and effect nito for longterm.




      At malamang may initiative  din ang gobyerno or ang eskwelahan ukol sa sinasabi mong may mga ibang walang resources tingnan mo tong picture bilang halimbawa.



      https://i.ibb.co/0tNT0Vx/apple.png (https://ibb.co/TLX6Qqs)
       (https://imgbb.com/)


      Kaya mainam na maghintay tayo sa mga susunod na detalye dahil tiyak alam ng gobyerno ang mga flaws nito dahil hindi naman talaga lahat kaya may resource kaya tiyak may ilalaan na programa ukol dyan para sa mga scholars.


      Pero sigurado naman ako lahat ng scholars ay may smart phone lahat ng students so malamang kaya rin nila makipag video call or other video streaming gamit nito, at kung tungkol sa load naman tiyak naman mahahanapan yan ng paraan. nahanapan nga ng paraan pang ML,nood korean movies,facebook at iba pa yun pa kayang  pag aaral na.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: TagaMungkahi on April 26, 2020, 07:53:34 AM
      <-----removed, too long---->

      Sir, Ang point ko let's not generalize. Hindi naman talaga effective ang online teaching dahil unang problema diyan is resources hindi lang ng students kundi pati ang teachers at eskwelahan. May initiative po ang ibang schools, Good for them pero hindi lahat kaya ang ganyang initiative and pro active response lalo na sa gitna ng pandemic. I understand all the points from other users as well. Ang jinujustify ko lang is, Let's not generalize , specially if we can't put our shoes to their own shoes and sympathize with them.
      Specially sa assumption na lahat naman ng scholars may smartphone. We don't have that data to justify this statement. Generalized Masyado yung Idea na kaya namang gawan ng paraan which pushes to the illusion that there is no problem, eh meron nga po eh kaya merong complaints.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on April 26, 2020, 08:31:52 AM
      By the way, this thread is for the ongoing crisis but I guess medyo na o-off topic na ito sa aking palagay. Anyways, hindi rin magandang tingnan na i-include those big chunks of quotes at least only quote who you want to address.



      <....>
      Yung 5k-8k still depends on the region where you are in, am I right? May pinsan kasi ako na ito rin yung inaasahan na makukuha but I guess matatagalan pa ata even on the lift of lockdown parang hindi pa.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: TagaMungkahi on April 26, 2020, 08:45:52 AM
      By the way, this thread is for the ongoing crisis but I guess medyo na o-off topic na ito sa aking palagay. Anyways, hindi rin magandang tingnan na i-include those big chunks of quotes at least only quote who you want to address.
      Yup, It's not good nga to look at big chunks of quoted posts😅 Edited my posts. The Topics we are discussing are still aligned with the current crisis po, It's still a healthy discussion to exchange views and perspectives regarding different issues caused by the Pandemic.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on April 26, 2020, 08:52:37 AM
      By the way, this thread is for the ongoing crisis but I guess medyo na o-off topic na ito sa aking palagay. Anyways, hindi rin magandang tingnan na i-include those big chunks of quotes at least only quote who you want to address.



      <....>
      Yung 5k-8k still depends on the region where you are in, am I right? May pinsan kasi ako na ito rin yung inaasahan na makukuha but I guess matatagalan pa ata even on the lift of lockdown parang hindi pa.
      https://i.imgur.com/n7O7Iet.jpg

      You are right po. Nakadepende po ang marereceive sa minimum wage ng isang region po.

      And I think related pa din ang topic sa covid since studying will be paused because of pandemic and the arguement between online teaching for me has impact for the learning of the students. Maybe, it may for the goodness or it will not allowed other students to learn. So, we need an equity for that in order to sustain education in the Philippines.

      I am also disagree with mass promotion sa mga estudyante at any grade level.

      Source:abs cbn facebook page


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on April 26, 2020, 09:20:30 AM
      ~
      Yung 5k-8k still depends on the region where you are in, am I right? May pinsan kasi ako na ito rin yung inaasahan na makukuha but I guess matatagalan pa ata even on the lift of lockdown parang hindi pa.
      ~image~
      You are right po. Nakadepende po ang marereceive sa minimum wage ng isang region po.
      Yes, base din sa region kagaya ng ginawa sa SAP.
      Just to clarify SAP =/= SBWS, magkaiba ang target beneficiaries ng dalawang programa.

      Scheduled distribution is May 1-31 2020 for tranche 1 & 2. By that time, malamang lahat ng rehiyon ay nasa General Community Quarantine na (hopefully).


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Shimmiry on April 26, 2020, 09:34:10 AM
      Noong nakaraan lamang, huling speech ni Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte, nabanggit doon na mayroong plano ang gobyerno natin para sa mga taga Metro-Manila. Sabi nila, magkakaroon daw ng "mass relocation"(di ako sigurado sa term), na ang mga taga metro-manila daw ay ipalilipat muna sa mga probinsya. Iniisip ko kung para ito sa ekonomiya, ngunit pano? Mayroon po ba dito na makapagpapaliwanag sa akin tungkol dito? Maraming salamat.
      Ingat mga kababayan!


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: TagaMungkahi on April 26, 2020, 10:58:30 AM
      Noong nakaraan lamang, huling speech ni Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte, nabanggit doon na mayroong plano ang gobyerno natin para sa mga taga Metro-Manila. Sabi nila, magkakaroon daw ng "mass relocation"(di ako sigurado sa term), na ang mga taga metro-manila daw ay ipalilipat muna sa mga probinsya. Iniisip ko kung para ito sa ekonomiya, ngunit pano? Mayroon po ba dito na makapagpapaliwanag sa akin tungkol dito? Maraming salamat.
      Ingat mga kababayan!
      Long Term Solution is to decongest Metro Manila. After kasi ng Pandemic, What will happen? They want to develop Provinces and Open it to attract Companies to Open Business which will create more Job which is actually Good but the thing is the Minimum Wage should be set as par with Metro Manila Minimum Wage. We all know that NCR is one of the Business Center kaya nagsisiksikan ang mga taga probinsya dahil mas malaki ang kita dito.
      Yung isa pang gagawin nilang step is pauwiin sa province ang mga nastuck sa Metro Manila During the ECQ, Balik Probinsya Program also wanted to seek people who will settle in their provinces FOR GOOD, that is why Government seeks to develop provinces to create more Jobs.
      For Reference https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1263881/bong-go-seeks-to-decongest-mm-pushes-for-balik-probinsya-programs


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on April 26, 2020, 11:27:53 PM
      Yes, base din sa region kagaya ng ginawa sa SAP.
      Just to clarify SAP =/= SBWS, magkaiba ang target beneficiaries ng dalawang programa.

      Scheduled distribution is May 1-31 2020 for tranche 1 & 2. By that time, malamang lahat ng rehiyon ay nasa General Community Quarantine na (hopefully).

      Ops. Speaking of SAP, look at how other Filipinos who spent their SAP amidst of enhanced community quarantine and COVID pandemic.

      Quote from:  ABS CBN
      3 nakatanggap ng ayuda, 4 iba pa arestado sa pagsusugal sa Ilocos Norte

      PIDDIG, Ilocos Norte - Arestado ang 7 magkakabarangay, kabilang ang 3 nakatanggap ng ayuda sa ilalim ng social amelioration program ng gobyerno, matapos mahuling nagsusugal sa isang bahay dito sa bayan, Huwebes.

      Huli sa aktong nagsusugal ng "Lucky 9" ang apat na lalaki at tatlong babae sa labas ng bahay ng isa sa mga suspek sa Sitio Cagat, Barangay 8 Tangaoan sa nasabing bayan.

      Nakuha sa kanila ang P2,582 na perang taya sa sugal at baraha.

      Ayon sa mga pulis, tatlo sa mga suspek ang nakakuha ng P5,500 mula sa social amelioration program ng Department of Social Welfare and Development para sana magamit pantawid sa gitna ng krisis sa COVID-19.

      Isang barangay kagawad din ang kasama sa mga nahuli.

      Sasampahan ang 7 ng kasong paglabag sa Presidential Decree 1602 o Anti-Gambling Law.

      - ulat ni Dianne Dy, ABS-CBN News


      Source:  https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/04/24/20/3-nakatanggap-ng-ayuda-4-iba-pa-arestado-sa-pagsusugal-sa-ilocos-norte (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/04/24/20/3-nakatanggap-ng-ayuda-4-iba-pa-arestado-sa-pagsusugal-sa-ilocos-norte)

      Eto ang malala,

      Quote
      Babae nahuli sa curfew: SAP cash ginamit sa rebond ng buhok

      BOCAUE, Bulacan — Isang babae ang nahuli sa isang checkpoint sa Barangay Binang 2nd bandang 9:30 ng gabi ng Abril 20.

      Ginabi daw kasi ang babae dahil sa pagpaparebond ng buhok ngunit kalaunan ay inamin pa na ang ginasta sa parlor ang perang nagmula sa Social Amelioration Program (SAP).

      Hindi na pinangalanan ng mga otoridad ang sinasabing babae na nahuli sa checkpoint na dinala sa presinto ngunit malaunan ay pinauwi na din ng bahay.

      Ayon kay kagawad Rico Navarro, nagroronda sila gabi ng Abril 20 nang makita ang nasabing babae habang naglalakad sa kalsada.

      Nang kanilang tanungin kung saan ito galing ay ang tugon ng babae na nagparebond siya sa isang parlor.

      Malaunan ay inamin pa daw nito na ang perang pinagpa-rebond ay ang natanggap niya na P6,500mula sa SAP na ipinamahagi ng Department of Social Welfare and Development.

      Ani Navaro, sinabihan nila ang babae kung bakit ginastos sa pagpapa-rebond ng buhok sa halip na gugulin ito sa pambili ng pagkain ay hindi na ito tumugon pa.

      Agad nila itong dinala sa presinto dahil sa paglabag sa curfew ngunit pinauwi din kalaunan.


      Read more at:  https://punto.com.ph/babae-nahuli-sa-curfew-sap-cash-ginamit-sa-rebond-ng-buhok/ (https://punto.com.ph/babae-nahuli-sa-curfew-sap-cash-ginamit-sa-rebond-ng-buhok/)

      Conclusion:

      Mukhang hindi deserving iba sa SAP. Sa kalagitnaan ng krisis at pandemiyang ito, mas nauuna pa ng iba nating kababayan ang luho at sugal. Katulad lang ng pagpunta ng iba nating kababayan dati sa Espanya hindi para mag-aral o gumawa ng kontribusyon laban sa pang-aalipin ng Espanya. Kaya nagalit si Rizal. Tunay nga, history repeat itself.

      Ngayon, kawawa talaga yung mga taong nangangailangan na hindi pa nakakakuha ng SAP kasi in case mareprogram yung SAP, apektado sila talaga.





      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: finaleshot2016 on April 27, 2020, 12:24:53 AM
      Nice, I really like what you've said here and IMO, this should be the end of the discussion regarding Mass Promotion and online classes thingy 'cause some of you explained all the key points why should we stop online classes and proceed to mass promotion. Other than your statement, I do thank those who have taken part in the discussion, and it is very fulfilling to see some long discussions here at local.

      In every discussion, generalizing isn't really a good idea especially if the issue affects the whole nation with different people.

      I'm not saying na wag laging mag-generalize, pwede pa rin naman tayong mag-generalize kung pare-parehas lang tayo ng kalidad ng buhay or ang isang bagay ay wala ng ibang kaanyuan na makakapagsabing similar nga. But if we're talking about people, it's hard and not valid to generalize since hindi naman tayo pareparehas ng experience and status ng ating pamumuhay.

      Therefore, hasty generalization shouldn't be used as an argument if ang evidence mo lang para ma-validate ang isang statement ay ang pamumuhay lang ng isang tao. And narealize ko na dapat matutunan lahat ng mga tao ang type ng ganitong fallacy para alam nila ang sinasabi nila especially sa panahon ngayon na may pandemic tayong hinaharap at maraming nagbibigay ng opinyon sa social media. Kaya even here and social media, we can still see arguments na

      "hindi naman lahat ng ganito... ay ganito..."
      "hindi naman lahat ng ganyan... ay ganyan..." at maraming nagrereklamo kasi hindi open yung iba to understand the situation of other people. Speaking of pagrereklamo, hindi rin naman okay na laging magreklamo dahil we should have a stand bakit nga ba tayo nagrereklamo at valid dapat. Kaya di ko rin masisisi yung ibang tao sapagkat magkaiba kami ng nararanasan at nasa magkaibang lugar kami.
      • May mga part na hindi nabigyan ng ayuda
      • Hindi tayo pareparehas may ipon at may pera
      • Hindi lahat pareparehas ng gamit especially laptop/PC and internet connection to participate sa online classes.
      • Hindi lahat nasa isang magandang community na hindi exposed masyado sa virus
      So I hope for this discussion, we've learned something that we can apply to other situations. People are supporting #WeHealAsOne in the socmed but don't have empathy for the other people that have the toughest experience during this health crisis.
      -----------
      Conclusion:

      Mukhang hindi deserving iba sa SAP. Sa kalagitnaan ng krisis at pandemiyang ito, mas nauuna pa ng iba nating kababayan ang luho at sugal. Katulad lang ng pagpunta ng iba nating kababayan dati sa Espanya hindi para mag-aral o gumawa ng kontribusyon laban sa pang-aalipin ng Espanya. Kaya nagalit si Rizal. Tunay nga, history repeat itself.

      Ngayon, kawawa talaga yung mga taong nangangailangan na hindi pa nakakakuha ng SAP kasi in case mareprogram yung SAP, apektado sila talaga.
      I hate those kind of people na hindi nagiisip ng mabuti. They're lucky enough to be part of the program dahil mayroon silang pang-kain at walang poproblemahin masyado kahit ma-extend ang ECQ. I think mas mabuting magkaroon ulit ng mabuting observation/investigation kung karapatdapat nga bang maging part ng SAP ang mga pamilya naka-include dito.

      On the other part, may ilang SAP beneficiaries ang nagbalik ng pera dahil nakatanggap na sila ng ayuda from other program.
      • Honest SAP beneficiaries return money after receiving assistance from other program (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/735199/honest-sap-beneficiaries-return-money-after-receiving-assistance-from-other-program/story/)
      Dito mo makikita na may iilang tao ang mapagsamantala kahit na may krisis tayong kinakaharap and after that magrereklamo sila sa government for not receiving beneciaries eh kung ganyan sila magsayang ng pera, they're not worthy to be part of those programs kasi for sure may mas mahihirap pa sa kanila na hindi pa nagiging part ng program.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Taskford on April 27, 2020, 04:15:44 AM
      Noong nakaraan lamang, huling speech ni Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte, nabanggit doon na mayroong plano ang gobyerno natin para sa mga taga Metro-Manila. Sabi nila, magkakaroon daw ng "mass relocation"(di ako sigurado sa term), na ang mga taga metro-manila daw ay ipalilipat muna sa mga probinsya. Iniisip ko kung para ito sa ekonomiya, ngunit pano? Mayroon po ba dito na makapagpapaliwanag sa akin tungkol dito? Maraming salamat.
      Ingat mga kababayan!
      Long Term Solution is to decongest Metro Manila. After kasi ng Pandemic, What will happen? They want to develop Provinces and Open it to attract Companies to Open Business which will create more Job which is actually Good but the thing is the Minimum Wage should be set as par with Metro Manila Minimum Wage. We all know that NCR is one of the Business Center kaya nagsisiksikan ang mga taga probinsya dahil mas malaki ang kita dito.
      Yung isa pang gagawin nilang step is pauwiin sa province ang mga nastuck sa Metro Manila During the ECQ, Balik Probinsya Program also wanted to seek people who will settle in their provinces FOR GOOD, that is why Government seeks to develop provinces to create more Jobs.
      For Reference https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1263881/bong-go-seeks-to-decongest-mm-pushes-for-balik-probinsya-programs

      Andaming realization sa mga pangyayari ngayon at ewan ko lang kong pano nila ma decongest ang manila kung may provincial rate, at dapat yan muna ang una nilang e waive at gawing pantay ang sahod bawat rehiyon upang ung mga probinsyano e hindi na talaga mahikayat pumunta pa ng maynila upang dun magtrabaho. At isa pa hindi lahat ng probinsya e maganda ang estado lalo na yung mga lugar na may mga rebelde na nanggugolo e tiyak malaking turn off yun sa mga investor dahil mapanganib sa kanila sumugal sa lugar na yun at dapat isa ito sa mga dapat isaalang-alang ng gobyerno dahil madali lang sabihin na e implement ang programa na yan pero in reality babalik parin ang mga probinsyano sa ka maynilaan dahil walang opportunidad sa lugar nila.

      Siguro maganda muna ipasa nila ang Federal form of government upang maiwasayos nila ang bawat rehiyo.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: danherbias07 on April 29, 2020, 02:35:06 PM
      Kaloka itong si Governor Jonvic Remulla.
      Pabago-bago ng desisyon.
      Panic na talaga ang karamihan ng taga-Cavite dahil sa announcement niya na total lockdown tapos biglang "wag na lang".
      Wow!

      Napapila ako ng 3 hours sa Puregold para lang mag grocery for milk and diapers ng baby ko tapos ganon lang. Sorry lang.
      Tapos nasita pa ako dahil 1 pm na ako nakauwe which is lockdown time na at ayaw ako papasukin ng subdivision. Kinailangan pa makiusap ng todo todo.

      Dapat sa mga gantong situation ay manigurado muna sila.
      Madami tao ang nagpapanic tapos congested ang mga groceries dahil sa mga maling pagpapatupad.
      Baligtad eh. Nauna magpatupad bago ang research na hindi pala kaya ng mga city and barangay.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on April 30, 2020, 07:18:32 AM
      Kaloka itong si Governor Jonvic Remulla.
      Pabago-bago ng desisyon.
      Panic na talaga ang karamihan ng taga-Cavite dahil sa announcement niya na total lockdown tapos biglang "wag na lang".
      Wow!

      Napapila ako ng 3 hours sa Puregold para lang mag grocery for milk and diapers ng baby ko tapos ganon lang. Sorry lang.
      Tapos nasita pa ako dahil 1 pm na ako nakauwe which is lockdown time na at ayaw ako papasukin ng subdivision. Kinailangan pa makiusap ng todo todo.

      Dapat sa mga gantong situation ay manigurado muna sila.
      Madami tao ang nagpapanic tapos congested ang mga groceries dahil sa mga maling pagpapatupad.
      Baligtad eh. Nauna magpatupad bago ang research na hindi pala kaya ng mga city and barangay.
      Sa nakikita ko parang biro-biro lang sakanya ang LOCKDOWN. Hindi man lang naisip kung ano yung magiging response ng mga citizen kapag naganunsyo sya at biglang babawiin.

      Imagine, nagkaroon ulit ng panic buying which is iniiwasan na ngayon kasi dumadagsa ang tao sa mga grocery stores. Dahil lang sa announcement na kalaunay binawi nya.

      Kapag ganyan sya palagi, naku. Marami sa kanyang magagalit.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: julerz12 on May 01, 2020, 05:49:36 PM
      Not to derail the ongoing topic about online classes and such, pero nakaka-alarma na patuloy parin ang pagtaas ng confirmed cases dito sa atin sa 'Pinas.
      As of today 5/2/2020, umabot na ito sa 8,772 with deaths that sums up to 579. But, the good news is, kahit papano, meron din namang mga gumagaling; we now have 1,084 recoveries.

      Dapat talaga magkaroon na ng mass testing; hindi lamang sa mga urban areas kondi pati sa kasulok-sulukan ng Pilipinas.

      Ang nangyayari kasi ngayon, saka pa lamang nila napi-pinpoint kung sino yung carrier kapag nagpositive or is showing any Covid-19 symptoms. That's the time our frontliners do contact tracing. quarantines and such.
      Ang problema is kapag yung carrier is asymptomatic (meaning not showing any symptoms of Covid-19), maari pa itong makapag-galagala kung saan-saan while having a high chance of infecting others. Lalo na ngayon na other provinces have already opened their borders para sa mga gustong umuwi o makapasok.

      Source: DOH Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/OfficialDOHgov/posts/3276491919028704)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on May 05, 2020, 10:24:56 PM
      Guys update regarding COVID-19 treatment. Just saw this on youtube(also found it on his Facebook page) while looking for articles/videos about COVID-19 treatments and I stumbled upon it.

      I can assure you that the video is true since Doc Willie Ong is the one explaining it and it would ruin his reputation if it is fake news.
      Code:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gPQiJDptvc
      https://www.facebook.com/DocWillieOngOfficial/videos/632820613966644/?__tn__=%2Cd%2CP-R&eid=ARD-j4RaAcP6u23NiRZVZq-gr6AYDd_tRHJR8c6RDXESNGD4tX1e5UQazuviUU7mRpXPvGJS_ANM514f

      this treatment would be a great help to lessen the infected people and increase the recovered patients. but even with this good news the problem still remains. until the government enact mass testings there is no way to easily pinpoint how many are infected and how far it has spread in the country.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on May 11, 2020, 10:09:17 AM

      Nakakatakot parin yung patuloy na pagdami ng cases ng virus dito sa ating bansa kahit naka quarantine na tayo. Imagine, 2 months of lockdown pero hindi parin mastabilize ang pag dami ng cases. Kung titignan, mas marami na tayong cases ngayon kesa sa Korea na hindi naman nagkaroon ng lockdown.

      Siguro nasa tao at gobyerno nadin talaga ito. Ang pag handle ng virus, at pag sunod sa mga patakaran. Nakakabahala kasi. Habang mas tumataas ito ngayong lockdown, maaaring maextend ng maextend ang quarantine. Kasi ngayon ngayong may ECQ, tumataas parin ito, pano pa pag tinanggal na ito? Good thing na bumababa ang rate ng deaths at tumataas ang recoveries. Sana sooner ma reach din nating yung point na isang araw, zero new cases. Btw, ingat parin sa inyo mga kabayan!





      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: ecnalubma on May 11, 2020, 03:33:55 PM
      Siguro nasa tao at gobyerno nadin talaga ito. Ang pag handle ng virus, at pag sunod sa mga patakaran. Nakakabahala kasi. Habang mas tumataas ito ngayong lockdown, maaaring maextend ng maextend ang quarantine. Kasi ngayon ngayong may ECQ, tumataas parin ito, pano pa pag tinanggal na ito? Good thing na bumababa ang rate ng deaths at tumataas ang recoveries.
      Kailangan talaga cooperation ng government and its citizens para madali ma control at hindi na kumalat pa ang virus, pero sa sitwasyon natin Pilipinas mukhang matatagalan bago tayo manumbalik sa normal na buhay sa kadahilanang marami parin ang lumalabag sa quarantine protocol, pero hindi natin masisisi ang ibang tao dahil karamihan talaga hindi handa sa mga ganitong sitwasyon at wala silang mapagkukunan ng pangangailangan nila kung hindi didiskarte.

      Pero kahit babaan man ang level ng quarantine ngayon, huwag tayong maging kampante dahil hindi natin nakikita ang kalaban, dito nga sa Baguio supposedly nung April 30 bababaan na ang status ng quarantine few days bago ang deadline nag +8 pa ang positive cases kaya nag extended ulit. We hope na sana matapos na ito, dahil hindi biro ang epekto nito sa kabuhayan ng mga tao at ekonomiya.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on May 11, 2020, 05:23:55 PM
      As others netizen said we don't have the worst government but the worst citizen, mostly it applies. I do hope na isang araw mass testing will really be implemented bawat rehiyon.

      Is it true that sometimes there are some cases na rapid tests was not really match on lab testing? Some case comes up na ito yung kadalasang nangyayari at it causes alarm lalo nansa isang munisipalidad lamang and they announced it or post it, it really do advisable na sa mismong DOH pages or announcement makikinig and the results they got from labs. Kasi dito sa kalapit na munisipyo namin one nurse tested positive on rapid testing but when time comes the lab result was out it turns out negative. Is this news?


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on May 11, 2020, 10:42:31 PM
      As others netizen said we don't have the worst government but the worst citizen, mostly it applies. I do hope na isang araw mass testing will really be implemented bawat rehiyon.

      Is it true that sometimes there are some cases na rapid tests was not really match on lab testing? Some case comes up na ito yung kadalasang nangyayari at it causes alarm lalo nansa isang munisipalidad lamang and they announced it or post it, it really do advisable na sa mismong DOH pages or announcement makikinig and the results they got from labs. Kasi dito sa kalapit na munisipyo namin one nurse tested positive on rapid testing but when time comes the lab result was out it turns out negative. Is this news?
      Hindi mass testing for every region ang kailangan talaga. Though, it is a good suggestion. It is not necessarily to conduct or even implemented a mass testing for every region. We just burning our funds from it. Ang kailangan natin ay magkaroon ng isolation sa mga lalawigan/probinsya na may cases o may matataas na bilang ng COVID-19 positive. Then, doon magfocus sa mass testing at dapat ang bawat lalawigan ay isara lalo na yung may matataas na case.
      As long as our testing kits are not precise, I believe that mass testing wouldn't be effective as that. Katulad na lang din ng sinabi mo about dun sa nurse sa kalapit munisipyo nyo. Imagine, if all testing kits will use tapos ganyan kababa ang accuracy rate. It might just cause fear, uncertainty and doubt sa mga tao

      We need cure and our government should be more focusing in it.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on May 11, 2020, 11:23:37 PM
      As others netizen said we don't have the worst government but the worst citizen, mostly it applies.
      Pwede na ba nating sabihin may kakupalan talaga ang ugali ng pinoy? 😂 pero seryoso may pagkabobo talaga tayo in terms sa mga ganitong bagay, una kasi panic bago yung action, una din ung react kesa action o di kaya naman may action + camera = mema.

      Oh di ba boplaks nga talaga. Tapos kasalanan na naman ni presidente LoL. Hindi nga talaga malabong mangyari sa ekonomiya natin ung napanood ko na 2years bago maibalik ang lahat sa normal.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Asuspawer09 on May 12, 2020, 04:40:41 AM
      Here are some statistics.

      Mga bansa na kailangan ng aksyon:
      https://i.imgur.com/No8KyKu.png

      Some Countries ay bumababa na cases:
      https://i.imgur.com/rNYtmZ3.png

      Mga bansa na nakakarecover na:
      https://i.imgur.com/dnpq7AV.png

      Maraming bansa ang bumababa ang ang cases ng COVID-19 or "flattening the curve na tinatawag, Makikita sa graph ang pagbaba ng mga cases sa ibang mga bansa.

      Sad to say pero hindi kasama ang Pilipinas don, alam naman naten ang sitwasyon maraming sumusuway sa simpleng paglabas lang ng bahay, maraming hindi sumusunod. Mukang malabo pa na makalipat ang ibang mga lugar sa gcq dahil hindi pa rin bumababa ang cases, meaning malaki ang chance na maextend pa ang ecq kung magbabase tayo sa cases sa bansa.


      Source:
      https://www.reportr.world/news/philippines-not-flattening-curve-covid-a833-ot-sa833-20200507-src-spot?utm_source=Facebook-Cosmo&utm_medium=Siteshare&utm_campaign=20200507-philippines-not-flattening-curve-covid
      https://www.endcoronavirus.org/countries


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on May 12, 2020, 05:15:18 AM
      Recent news lang rin na nakita from a facebook page named Earth Shaker. Metro Manila, and other following places are under "Modified Enhance Community Quarantine" up until the end of May.


      May balita na rin ang ABS CBN news patungkol rito. Makikita rin dito ang pahayag ni Presidente Duterte why he came up with such decision.
      Here it is:

      A "modified" enhanced community quarantine or ECQ will stay until May 31 in Metro Manila, neighboring Laguna province, and Cebu City in the Visayas, his spokesman Harry Roque said. The 3 have a combined population of nearly 16 million.

      "We cannot afford a second or third wave na mangyari (to happen)," Duterte said in a public address aired earlier in the day.

      Yes, an extension of another couple of weeks nanaman. 'Di rin naman natin made-deny 'yong fact na we can't afford to have those another waves. Hospitals are fully loaded na, and 'di na rin basta-basta makapag-accomodate ng patients and sometimes 'yong mga non-covid related na sakit ay napapabayaan at minsan namamatay na 'yong nagsa-suffer due to countless number of patients inside the various hospital.  So at some point mabuti na rin ang extension though nakaka-suffocate na manatili indoors at limited pa ang pupwede gawin sa labas. Problem in addition, we are also experiencing some budget cut but we can't risk pa. Our country is not even advance enough to have the crisis under control lunok na lang ng pride till we are certain na sa number of cases (pero parang medyo pahirapan pa mangyari 'to).

      Here is what I saw sa isang facebook comment base doon sa facebook post ng Earth Shaker. Ito 'yong different classifications na mayroon ang community quarantine.

      Sources: click here (https://www.facebook.com/1977102099010584/posts/2949668645087253/)
      More: click here (https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.abs-cbn.com/amp/news/05/12/20/modified-lockdown-set-in-metro-manila-2-other-areas/)



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on May 12, 2020, 08:30:02 AM
      As others netizen said we don't have the worst government but the worst citizen, mostly it applies.
      Pwede na ba nating sabihin may kakupalan talaga ang ugali ng pinoy? 😂 pero seryoso may pagkabobo talaga tayo in terms sa mga ganitong bagay, una kasi panic bago yung action, una din ung react kesa action o di kaya naman may action + camera = mema.

      Oh di ba boplaks nga talaga. Tapos kasalanan na naman ni presidente LoL. Hindi nga talaga malabong mangyari sa ekonomiya natin ung napanood ko na 2years bago maibalik ang lahat sa normal.
      "Too much democracy is chaos"

      Ang Pilipinas kasi maraming makata. Haha. I often post in social media specially when it comes to the laws that implemented right now (pwera lang dito sa forum). Kasi hindi masosolusyunan ng puro reklamo ang krisis na kinakaharap ng mga tao ngayon.

      Yung iba kasi sa social media specially facebook and twitter parang mga keyboard warrior, puna dito o puna doon. Daming reklamo. Hindi na lang sumunod.

      Kung dati ang rally ay nasa edsa at mga kalsada, ngayon mukhang social media platforms na ang new way to have rallies.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on May 12, 2020, 10:28:09 AM
      "Too much democracy is chaos"

      Ang Pilipinas kasi maraming makata. Haha. I often post in social media specially when it comes to the laws that implemented right now (pwera lang dito sa forum). Kasi hindi masosolusyunan ng puro reklamo ang krisis na kinakaharap ng mga tao ngayon.

      Yung iba kasi sa social media specially facebook and twitter parang mga keyboard warrior, puna dito o puna doon. Daming reklamo. Hindi na lang sumunod.

      Kung dati ang rally ay nasa edsa at mga kalsada, ngayon mukhang social media platforms na ang new way to have rallies.
      If Socrates was living he will not be pleased. Sa mga rants na nangyayari sa social media I often not minding those mostly if pinagkakaguluhan mas lalong lumalala at mas lalong dumarami yung issue. Once this community quarantine lift up kita niyo rally na naman yan kaliwa't kanan hindi lang sa social media pati kakalsadahan na naman.

      Pwede na ba nating sabihin may kakupalan talaga ang ugali ng pinoy? 😂 pero seryoso may pagkabobo talaga tayo in terms sa mga ganitong bagay, una kasi panic bago yung action, una din ung react kesa action o di kaya naman may action + camera = mema.

      Oh di ba boplaks nga talaga. Tapos kasalanan na naman ni presidente LoL. Hindi nga talaga malabong mangyari sa ekonomiya natin ung napanood ko na 2years bago maibalik ang lahat sa normal.
      Pwede din atang mai-apply yan ranging from our socio-cultural values; madaming rason, 'bahala na' attitude, more to add kaya huwag nalang. We will really experience a lag pagdating sa ekonomiya and if we still have more months until we fully contained the virus 2 years+ will be imminent for the Philippines.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on May 13, 2020, 04:06:55 AM
      As others netizen said we don't have the worst government but the worst citizen, mostly it applies.
      Pwede na ba nating sabihin may kakupalan talaga ang ugali ng pinoy? 😂 pero seryoso may pagkabobo talaga tayo in terms sa mga ganitong bagay, una kasi panic bago yung action, una din ung react kesa action o di kaya naman may action + camera = mema.

      Oh di ba boplaks nga talaga. Tapos kasalanan na naman ni presidente LoL. Hindi nga talaga malabong mangyari sa ekonomiya natin ung napanood ko na 2years bago maibalik ang lahat sa normal.
      Eto oh mainit na balita.
      https://www.facebook.com/gmanews/videos/663798281067559/ (https://www.facebook.com/gmanews/videos/663798281067559/)

      Kakalungkot lang dahil isa pang teacher ang walang habas na magsalita sa ating presidente. Panoorin nyo na lang. Hindi ito isa huwarang guro at lalong mas pinapalala pa ang sitwasyon. Ito yung sinasabi mo bro na mema na lang. Mga inuuna ang post at pambabatikos sa presidente. I ashamed this kind of person. Sya ang patunay sa ibang masamang ugali ng pinoy.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: danherbias07 on May 13, 2020, 06:22:15 AM
      Kakalungkot lang dahil isa pang teacher ang walang habas na magsalita sa ating presidente. Panoorin nyo na lang. Hindi ito isa huwarang guro at lalong mas pinapalala pa ang sitwasyon. Ito yung sinasabi mo bro na mema na lang. Mga inuuna ang post at pambabatikos sa presidente. I ashamed this kind of person. Sya ang patunay sa ibang masamang ugali ng pinoy.
      May kasunod pa yan brad. Si 100m.
      At may susunod pa ulit diyan. Babae naman 75m.
      Meron pa isa pa, babae ulit. Wait lang natin sa balita. Sa GMA.  ;D

      Sino mga taga Makati diyan.
      Ako botante ng Makati pero sa Cavite na nakatira.
      May ayuda na 5k si Mayor Abby.
      Ang problema lang, malaki.  ;D

      Yung android application niya ay hindi kinakaya ang congested na tao na nagaapply para sa ayuda na to.
      Website ay the same. Mas mabilis sana kasi dito kasi 6 days lang ang process.

      Anyway, yung may Makatizen cards naman ay rekta na marereceive before May 15.
      Yung wala naman, hintay humupa ang congested application or magapply thru e-mail pero medyo hassle to lalo kung wala ka printer at scanner.
      Ako, hintay na lang.

      Sa mga gusto i-try sa e-mail.
      Application form. (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TEi173xlYbZAbuZEY6tpRiVRtTv4reB9/view?fbclid=IwAR3bv_vOX4xyQu1I1rFs3y8BrfpZwx9yawQJt0iiB9kmat6Iks0pEVQRZFA)
      Gcash account.
      2 valid ID's.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on May 15, 2020, 08:54:06 AM

      May 11,2020 ng umabot na ng 11k ang positive cases dito sa bansa natin and 4 days lang ang nakalipas tumungtong na agad ito 12k, sobrang bilis ng pagtaas ng cases. Mukhang sa susunod pa na 4 days aabot na ito ng 13k? At, paano pa ngayon na naging modified ECQ na ang ibang lugar mukhang malaki ang posibilidad na lulubo pa talaga ang cases sa bansa natin. Pansin pa rin naman ang tuloy na paglaki ng bilang ng mga recoveries. Kung patuloy talaga ang pagtaas ng mga cases sa mga susunod pa na mga araw panigurado na maeextend at maeextend pa rin ang ECQ.

      Parang matatagalan pa talaga tayo na mareach yung zero new cases dito sa bansa natin dahil sobrang daming makukulit na pilipino na patuloy pa rin na lumalabag sa batas. May mga nakanood naman siguro dito na kabayan about don sa babae na lumabas ng bahay kahit sa lugar nila ay meron hard lockdown na kung saan bawal talaga ng lumabas at ang dahilan nya pa ay may iaabot lang siyang gamit. Nakakagigil lang kasi lumabas sya ng bahay wala pa siyang facemask at siya pa yung galit sa mga pulis. Kung puro ganito nalang ang mangyayari malabo talaga na bumaba yung cases sa bansa natin.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Vaculin on May 15, 2020, 09:27:51 AM
      That was fast, I will not be surprise if it keeps increasing while waiting for the vaccine, the ECQ or what we called now the modified ECQ was extended until May 31, 2020, but with the fast increase of number of cases, is it right for the government to resume some businesses and let people work instead of still staying at home.

      As per Pres. Duterte, the Philippines cannot afford to experience another wave of fresh covid cases, so I guess they need to choose between the safety of the people and the economy.

      Also there are people who are using the current situation on their advantage, do you know FLM or Frances Leo Marcos, the guy who is giving sacks to rise to the people but I doubt on the legitimacy of this person, the "MAYAMAN CHALLENGE" could be fake just for him to get some donation from his subscriber.

      hopefully we will not fall victim to this at this tough time, if we are a fan by him, we should carefully evaluate him as a person and his actions.

      according to this blog - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGUBr_QZOs , The SEC will investigate FLM scam.





      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on May 15, 2020, 09:51:10 AM
      That was fast, I will not be surprise if it keeps increasing while waiting for the vaccine, the ECQ or what we called now the modified ECQ was extended until May 31, 2020, but with the fast increase of number of cases, is it right for the government to resume some businesses and let people work instead of still staying at home.

      As per Pres. Duterte, the Philippines cannot afford to experience another wave of fresh covid cases, so I guess they need to choose between the safety of the people and the economy.

      Also there are people who are using the current situation on their advantage, do you know FLM or Frances Leo Marcos, the guy who is giving sacks to rise to the people but I doubt on the legitimacy of this person, the "MAYAMAN CHALLENGE" could be fake just for him to get some donation from his subscriber.

      hopefully we will not fall victim to this at this tough time, if we are a fan by him, we should carefully evaluate him as a person and his actions.

      according to this blog - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGUBr_QZOs , The SEC will investigate FLM scam.
      Just read a recent article that Philippine GDP will decline from 2 to 3.4% this year, I think that's alarming. I think it is fine to open up some businesses but it should have extreme measures to follow. It's best that economy is still functioning even if we can't still contain the virus yet even bit by bit until we get up again, I guess that's what the government want to address.

      I haven't watched many videos of him, I don't know why but the one thing that boggles my mind is "if you really are genuine to help these people I think it's best you leave the camera behind". This person does not exercise that one or am I just wrong he always do that when he's helping others?


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on May 18, 2020, 06:35:47 AM
      Kumusta implementation ng GCQ o MECQ sa lugar niyo? 

      The Government keeps saying that decision to lift restrictions in different areas will be based on science but in reality, it is based on economy na. If we look at the number of confirmed cases daily based on the public data, hindi naman talaga siya bumababa pero tinuloy pa din ang pag-downgrade dahil na din siguro sa recommendations ng mga Metro Manila Mayors. Hindi talaga sustainable ang ECQ in the long run. The good thing that ECQ brought though is it enabled the Government to build more facilities and increased the testing capacities (mas marami na din recoveries per day).

      I know the Government said we cannot afford a second wave pero tingin ko doon pa din pupunta seeing how people flocked the malls in Metro Manila after being downgraded to MECQ from posts on social media. Let's just hope na hindi na ulit ma-overwhelm ang ating healthcare.

      In other countries, bumabalik na ulit sila sa quarantine noong nagkaroon ng mga bagong cases at nung naging positive ulit yung mga previously recovered patients. At least 6 countries reimposed lockdown measures as new coronavirus cases flared up again (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/at-least-6-countries-reimposed-lockdown-measures-as-new-coronavirus-cases-flared-up-again-heres-what-they-looked-like/ar-BB14coxt)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on May 18, 2020, 11:36:54 AM
      Kumusta implementation ng GCQ o MECQ sa lugar niyo? 
      Maayus naman ang implementation ng MECQ dito sa amin at nahahandle naman ito ng mga official na namamahala samin. At ngayon, maari na ulit magbiyahe ang mga tricyle and pedicab sa city namin as long nasusunod nila yung operating protocols. Pero dito sa mismong street namin pansin ko yung bilang ng pagdami ng mga tao na lumalabas sa kanilang bahay-bahay at kung ako tatanungin kahit sabihin na lift yung ECQ to MECQ mas mainam pa rin na manatili sa loob ng bahay dahil sobrang mapanganib pa rin.

      Source:
      Code:
      https://www.facebook.com/ValenzuelaCityGov/posts/10159908035228378

      I know the Government said we cannot afford a second wave pero tingin ko doon pa din pupunta seeing how people flocked the malls in Metro Manila after being downgraded to MECQ from posts on social media. Let's just hope na hindi na ulit ma-overwhelm ang ating healthcare.

      Hindi na talaga natin kaya magkaroon ng 2nd wave dahil mas lalo lang lalaki ang utang ng ating bansa at yung mga frontliners natin ay talagang pagod na pagod na sa paghahandle ng mga patients. Maraming kumalat na mga pictures sa social media about sa mga taong dagsaang pumunta sa mga malls at hindi man lang siguro nila alintana yung panganib na maaring mangyari sa kanila. Marami talaga satin ang sabik na sabik na makalabas ng bahay at puntahan ang lugar na gusto nila puntahan tulad nalang ng mga malls pero hindi pa ito ang time para dito at dahil ganitong pangyayari malaki talaga ang posibilidad na magkaroon ng 2nd wave.

      Source (https://www.facebook.com/LalovezhYdz/posts/10213087259416657)

      Makikita sa picture ang isang frontliners na gusto ng makauwi at alam naman natin yung struggle nila ngayon kaya mas mabuti talaga manatali nalang tayo sa bahay dahil tulad nila nais din nilang makasama kanilang pamilya at makapag pahinga. At nawa'y hindi magkaroon ng 2nd wave dahil hindi na ito kakayanin ng ating bansa at ng ating mga frontliners.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: iTradeChips on May 18, 2020, 12:07:14 PM
      This pandemic season nga mga kasama dapat talaga magingat tayo. Kung kayo mga bounty hunters, mga day traders, mga entrepreneurs that uses crypto as modes of payment, we need to reflect that somehow maswerte pa rin tayo kaysa sa karamihan dahil tayo may means to earn a bit by staying at home. So I just leave it here nalang guys na magingat tayong lahat at dapat tatagan lang natin pasasaan bat mawawala rin ito.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: AniviaBtc on May 18, 2020, 01:43:46 PM
      Ngayong araw ang start ng MECQ sa atin, May 16, 2020, maraming tao ang gusto nang lumabas sa kanilang mga bahay upang maalis ang inip at stress sa loob ng dalawang buwan na quarantine.

      Naririto sa link na ito ang iba pang mga dapat sundin at pagbabago na maaaring makatulong saten, upang mas maging maayos ang ating MECQ. http://dotr.gov.ph/55-dotrnews/1432-look-for-areas-placed-under-the-modified-enhanced-community-quarantine-mecq-public-transportation-is-not-allowed-and-some-transportation-services-will-remain-limited.html (http://dotr.gov.ph/55-dotrnews/1432-look-for-areas-placed-under-the-modified-enhanced-community-quarantine-mecq-public-transportation-is-not-allowed-and-some-transportation-services-will-remain-limited.html)

      Meron akong nabasa na tungkol sa rules ng mga transportation isa na dito ang private transportation, di naman natin maitatanggi na marami rin naman sa bansa natin ang gumagamit ng private transportation na pinakanagcacause ng traffic sa bawat main road na nadaraanan natin. Eto yung iminungkahi ng DOTr ukol dito:

      Rules for Private Transportation
      If you're using your car, note that there should only be two people in each row. We suppose this means the driver's and passenger seat can be occupied at the same time. If you're using a van for transport, be sure to follow this rule.

      Companies providing transport for their employees must ensure their shuttles are only at 50% capacity at any given time. Rented shuttles should have a special permit from the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board.

      Folks can also opt to use either bikes, motorcycles or even e-scooters. Do note that e-scooters are subject to existing traffic regulations, according to the Department of Transportation (DOTr). Plus, only one person is allowed on these two-wheeled vehicles.

      Kumakalat ngayon sa social media yung mga pictures na kung saan kitang kita na ang mga mall ay crowded pati narin ang mga daanan natin na kalsada.


      Kung makikita nyo napakaraming tao, napakaraming sasakyan na nagcacause ng traffic at ang mga tao ay hindi sinusunod ng maayos ang mga rules and regulations sa MECQ. Maraming rumors ang lumalabas na maaari raw talagang magkaroon ng second wave ang covid-19 sa ating bansa dahil hindi pa naman natin nafflatten ang curve at marami paring mga tao ang hindi sumusunod sa gobyerno. Pinatupad lang naman ang MECQ para kahit papaano ay makabawi and ekonomiya natin at malamang ay hindi ganito ang inaasahan ng ating gobyerno.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on May 19, 2020, 03:17:59 AM
      Kumusta implementation ng GCQ o MECQ sa lugar niyo?  
      It is such a dilemma if MECQ is really a good decision or not e. Parang normal day lang dito samin traffic, at siksikan na sa ibang public places, stores at malls and 'yong pinaka-essential practice pa 'yong nakalimutan ng karamihan which is 'yong social distancing. It indicates how indisciplined people were, and it show how important talaga mag-impose ng strict rules.

      I am afraid sa magiging outcome nito after few weeks. Would number of positive cases would blowout and babalik nanaman tayo sa mas maraming fatalities than recoveries? ('Wag naman sana but parang doon pupunta if it still continues). I get it naman na 'yong iba need na mag-work pero 'yong na-miss lang lumabas, damn.

      The Government keeps saying that decision to lift restrictions in different areas will be based on science but in reality, it is based on economy na. If we look at the number of confirmed cases daily based on the public data, hindi naman talaga siya bumababa pero tinuloy pa din ang pag-downgrade dahil na din siguro sa recommendations ng mga Metro Manila Mayors. Hindi talaga sustainable ang ECQ in the long run. The good thing that ECQ brought though is it enabled the Government to build more facilities and increased the testing capacities (mas marami na din recoveries per day).

      I know the Government said we cannot afford a second wave pero tingin ko doon pa din pupunta seeing how people flocked the malls in Metro Manila after being downgraded to MECQ from posts on social media. Let's just hope na hindi na ulit ma-overwhelm ang ating healthcare.
      Same thoughts sa baka magkaroon ng second wave, kabayan.

      If naging katulad lang tayo ni SoKor sa pag-handle nitong suffering na'to wala na siguro dapat pang ikatakot pa sa pag-labas.

      https://i.imgur.com/kEnPDyy.jpg

      Just look how their cases drastically went down. Mass testing, and right there isolation agad, if I am not mistaken may 0 cases report sila for a several days which is somehow a good outcome nung action na ginawa nila on handling this terrifying battle. Businesses are now open and so the jobs walang nang iwo-worry sa economy and for a stomach to feed. If naging SoKor lang talaga tayo. But wala na it is what it is, kung ano man maging consequence siguro nito government is there to clean the mess. Matuto na sa susunod  :-\ (Baka 'yong iniisip nung iba).

      Image source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102777/south-korea-covid-19-daily-new-cases/


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: danherbias07 on May 20, 2020, 04:05:14 AM
      Kumusta implementation ng GCQ o MECQ sa lugar niyo? 


      Sa amin dito sa Cavite ay parang walang nagbago.
      Per Cluster pa din. T/TH/Sat lang ako pwede lumabas.

      Kaya nagtataka ako pano napuno yung mall nung nakaraan na pinasara ulit ni Gov. Jonvic dahil sa mga pasaway.
      Ang hirap talaga bigyan ang tao ng konting kalayaan.
      Hindi ba sila natatakot na sa paguwe nila ay dala dala na nila ang sakit.

      Ako, kada uwe kulang na lang balatan ko katawan ko para luminis dahil feeling ko nakakapit na sa akin ang virus sa paglabas pa lang.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on May 26, 2020, 06:14:06 AM
      Kagabi nag salita ulit ang presidente natin ukol sa kinakaharap natin epidemya at sinabi nya na tutol siya sa pagbubukas ng klase dahil nandon pa rin yung panganib na mainfect mga estudyante na papasok sa mga paaralan at unibersidad. At, ang pinaparating nya talaga dito ay mas mainam na unahin ang kapakanan at kalusugan ng mga estudyante and para sa akin medyo pabor naman ako dito dahil isa rin akong estudyante and may kapatid din akong nag-aaral .

      Quote
      “Wala nang aral, laro na lang unless I am sure that they are really safe. It’s useless to be talking about the opening of classes. Para sa akin, bakuna muna,” Duterte said.
      Para sa akin, hindi naman lahat ng mga estudyante ay ginagamit ang time ngayon para lang maglaro dahil may iilan ay mas pinipili pa rin ang mag aral ng mga bagay na gusto pa nila matutunan. And, nasa atin na rin siguro ito kung gagamitin natin ang free time sa makabuluhang bagay. And, mas mainam na talaga muna na talakayin yung vaccine sa virus para wala ng takot ang mga estudyante kung magreresume yung mga klase.


      Pero salungat naman sa nais ng presidente, ayon kay Health Secretary Francisco Duque III, safe daw iresume Ang klase sa August 24.
      Quote
      “Pag-aaralan po natin [nang] maigi ito. Pero sa ngayon po, tingin namin, ay ligtas kung bubuksan ang klase by August 24 (We will study this carefully, but for now, we think that it’s safe if we will be opening classes by August 24),”

      Pag-aaralan pa lang pero nasabi na nyang ligtas ang pag bubukas ng klase sa susunod na pasukan. Masyado itong nakakabahala para sa kaligtasan ng mga kabataan. Una, hindi lahat ng paaralan ay kayang i-accomodate ang mga estudyante habang ipinapatupad ang social distancing sa buong facilities. Maraming estudyante ang umaasa lamang sa public schools para makapag aral at alam naman nating laging siksikan ang mga estudyante sa mga pampublikong paaralan.

      Ang pag reresume ng mga klase sa kalagitnaan ng epidemya ay isa talagang malaking sugal para sa kalusugan ng mga mamamayan pati na din sa ekonomiya. Sana naman ay pag isipan nang mabuti ni Duque ang mga iba't-ibang posibilidad bago magdesisyon. Madaling sabihin na ligtas ito, pag nasa sitwasyon na tayo ay malaki ang chance na mas lalong dadami ang positive cases. Ngayon pa nga lang na karamihan ay naka quarantine, patuloy pa rin ang pag dami, pano pa kung palalabasin ang mga kabataan? Ganito ang pinlano ng South Korea pero mukhang mahirap pa rin na magtagumpay na maging ligtas ang mga kabataan sa pag bukas ng klase.

      Sources:
      Code:
      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/739739/duterte-no-opening-of-classes-without-vaccine-vs-covid-19/story/
      https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/05/26/it-is-still-safe-to-open-classes-in-august-duque/
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/05/25/6-year-old-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-complicating-south-koreas-school-reopening-plans/#dda8cbd6f63b


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on May 27, 2020, 04:49:08 AM
      it's weird that I wasn't surprised when I heard and read this article(link below). amidst this crisis people really can't control their greed and have empathy towards the people in need. sana makulong lahat ng mga kasangkot sa SAP corruption para mabawasan namang ang mga kurakot sa pilipinas.

      134 barangay officials face criminal charges for SAP-related anomalies

      The Department of Interior and Local Government (DILG) on Monday, May 26, said that 134 barangay officials are now facing criminal raps for social amelioration program (SAP)-related anomalies before the Prosecutor’s Office of the Department of Justice (DOJ). There has been an increase of 320 percent in the number of suspected violators.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on May 28, 2020, 01:53:16 PM
      Just in...

      Starting June 1, 2020, the following areas will be under General Community Quarantine (GCQ):
      Davao City
      Pangasinan
      Albay
      Region 2
      Region 3
      Region 4A
      Metro Manila

      https://www.facebook.com/143947355665943/posts/3552563821470929/

      https://www.facebook.com/143947355665943/posts/3552525734808071/



      Prepare for the worst lalo na kung nasa area na maraming cases. Sana napalakas niyo mga immune system ninyo during the entire lockdown. Huwag kalimutan ang masks, kung may face shields, isuot niyo din.

      Hindi na talaga kakayanin ng ekonomiya kapag tumagal pa ito. Mukhang naihanda na yata ang mga facilities kung sakaling magka-2nd wave. Sana lang mapabilis distribution ng mga masks at PPEs sa lahat ng fronliners. 


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: creepyjas on May 30, 2020, 04:45:41 AM
      Just in...

      Starting June 1, 2020, the following areas will be under General Community Quarantine (GCQ)

      -snip

      Metro Manila

      -snip


      Goodluck talaga satin.. dito sa QC wala pang GCQ, grabe na traffic at dagsa ng mga tao. Isipin mo wala pang jeepneys and buses nun ha. Paano na sa June 1? Nakakatakot bumalik sa office kung ganito kagulo.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: JanpriX on May 30, 2020, 05:55:12 AM
      Just in...

      Starting June 1, 2020, the following areas will be under General Community Quarantine (GCQ):
      Davao City
      Pangasinan
      Albay
      Region 2
      Region 3
      Region 4A
      Metro Manila

      ~snipped~

      Region 7 or Central Visayas (Bohol, Cebu, Negros Oriental, Siquijor) is also included in that list. Additionally, nag-announce din si Presidential Spokesperson Harry Roque ng mga karagdagang siyudad na sasailalim sa GCQ until June 15. List below.

      • Cebu
      • Mandaue
      • Zamboanga

      Stay safe and healthy everyone. You know what to do.  ;)

      Code: (ARTICLE)
      https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/5/30/cebu-mandaue-zamboanga-cities-gcq.html


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: ecnalubma on May 30, 2020, 03:13:51 PM
      Dito sa CAR halos walang pagbabago sa mga protocol kahit na under GCQ na except sa mga additional establishments na pwede na mag operate. Malaking sugal din ito sa mga Lgu lalo na at wala pang lunas ang sakit dahil kailangan buhayin ang ekonomiya, kung hahabaan kasi ang pagsasara ng ibang mga negosyo baka tuluyan na magsara ang mga ito forever nakakalungkot naman at marami maapektuhan.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on June 01, 2020, 02:25:14 PM
      Sagot ba ng gobyerno ang medical bills ng covid patients?
      Kahit sa private or public hospitals?


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on June 02, 2020, 02:27:02 PM
      Sagot ba ng gobyerno ang medical bills ng covid patients?
      Kahit sa private or public hospitals?


      according to this parang limitado lang ata kung magkano masasagot ng philhealth per covid-19 patients. then pag lumampas sa amount ng "benefit packages" na inavail mo yung medical bill mo sagot na ata ng pasyente yun.

      According to Dr. Domingo, patients confined as probable or confirmed cases can avail of the benefit packages as follows: PHP 43,997 package for patients with mild pneumonia confined in Level 1 to 3 hospitals;  PHP 143,267 package for those with moderate pneumonia in Level 1 to 3 hospitals; PHP 333,519 package for patients with severe pneumonia confined in Level 2 to 3 hospitals, including ICUs; and P786,384 package for patients with critical pneumonia confined in Level 2 to 3 hospitals, including ICUs.

      Kahit sa private or public hospitals?
      according to this. yes
      These packages cover the rates for a private hospital room, management and monitoring of illness, laboratory, diagnostics and imaging, medicines included in the guidelines and protocol of the DOH, and supplies and equipment, including PPEs.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bisdak40 on June 04, 2020, 10:51:31 AM
      ~snip~
      Has anybody here, especially in places with GCQ, managed to get a travel pass? If so, what did you have to do to get it?

      This is the info that i have to acquire a travel pass. You need to have a mayor's certification then health certificate that you are COVID free. You need travel pass if you want to go to another region and better to check also that the region you are going to are already accepting travelers.

      You are in Cebu, right? The governor of Cebu said she will lift all the border checkpoints on June 12 and by that time also passenger ships will start their operation. I just read it on the online local newspaper and don't have a link to it.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on June 04, 2020, 04:47:35 PM
      it's weird that I wasn't surprised when I heard and read this article(link below). amidst this crisis people really can't control their greed and have empathy towards the people in need. sana makulong lahat ng mga kasangkot sa SAP corruption para mabawasan namang ang mga kurakot sa pilipinas.

      In the building where I am, a retired police officer got in trouble for collecting the SAP meant to be distributed to the rest of the people in the building, and not distributing it... Maybe they had connections to the local barangay office but I don't know for sure. All I know is some of the people here aren't very happy about it. A lot of other people don't even realize they were due to receive SAP money.

      we had a similar problem here in my area. our whole neighbourhood had no Idea(since no barangay official informed us) that the registration for the SAP has been happening at the barangay hall and by the time someone in my neighbourhood got the news that the registration has been happening it was the day before last. a lot of my neighbour that badly needed that cash assistance almost missed it since the barangay decided to withhold the information regarding the SAP registration from our neighbourhood. I just glad that those who badly needed it were able to register.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: danherbias07 on June 05, 2020, 11:53:47 AM

      The governor of Cebu said she will lift all the border checkpoints on June 12 and by that time also passenger ships will start their operation. I just read it on the online local newspaper and don't have a link to it.

      OK, interesting, thanks. We'll probably just wait around here until then if the ferries remain closed until June 12. It's hard to find exact info about what is correct but I did see a Manila Bulletin article that confirms what you're saying about the borders here re-opening.

      In good news, at least they are allowing liquor sales here to resume, thank God. I was getting tired of there only being Emperador and Kula Fu at a higher price... Not really my favorites. I would honestly rather be sober, lol. I had a San Mig Light for the first time in a couple months yesterday and it was delicious.

      Hope you all have weathered the covid storm and are doing well. Can't wait for things to finally get back to normal.

      Don't they need barangay clearance too?
      I went last week at our barangay hall and there is a really long line.
      I overheard some people which are trying to get a travel pass. Don't know though if they are on the right place.

      Here in Cavite liquor ban is also lifted (June 1) but deliveries of liquors just came now.
      Near sari-sari store is now selling Red Horse beer.  ;D I still prefer San Miguel Pale Pilsen but there is no choice.
      2 bottles later.  ;D


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on June 06, 2020, 11:43:23 PM
      COVID-19 Vaccine Update:

      LONDON, United Kingdom — British pharma giant AstraZeneca is "on track" to begin rolling out up to two billion doses of a coronavirus vaccine in September if ongoing trials prove successful, its chief executive said on Friday.

      this confuses me. other pharmaceuticals firms think COVID-19 vaccine will not be ready until 2021 and they still think that having a vaccine ready in 2021 is a long shot. yet AstraZeneca said that if the trials proved to be successful they will be rolling out 2 billion doses of the vaccine by September.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on June 07, 2020, 11:02:21 AM
      COVID-19 Vaccine Update:

      LONDON, United Kingdom — British pharma giant AstraZeneca is "on track" to begin rolling out up to two billion doses of a coronavirus vaccine in September if ongoing trials prove successful, its chief executive said on Friday.

      this confuses me. other pharmaceuticals firms think COVID-19 vaccine will not be ready until 2021 and they still think that having a vaccine ready in 2021 is a long shot. yet AstraZeneca said that if the trials proved to be successful they will be rolling out 2 billion doses of the vaccine by September.
      Hoping that it will be rolled out by September and that's really the vaccine we are waiting and it's that effective to fight off the virus because as what I've read on the article it will still be a trial and error.

      "Our present assumption is that we will have the data by the end of the summer, by August, so in September we should know whether we have an effective vaccine or not."

      But I know we are all that positive when something like this news comes up and I'm praying 🙏 this will be a success, like most of us hoping for.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: danherbias07 on June 07, 2020, 02:57:20 PM
      Ganito na rin ba sa inyo matapos ihayag na under "GCQ" na ang lugar?
      https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/multimedia/photo/06/07/20/playing-outdoors-as-lockdown-eases

      Sa amin ganito na.
      Pagdating ng alas-kuwatro ng hapon ay maririnig mo na ang mga bata sa lansangan at maingay na.
      Hindi ko alam kung naiintindihan ba ng kanilang mga magulang ang ibig sabihin ng "Q" sa GCQ.
      Alam ko sabik na ang mga bata sa kanilang paglabas pero kung kapalit naman nito ay makuha ang sakit, isasakripisyo mo ba?

      2 anak ko hangang ngayon hindi lumalabas. Hangang bakuran lang namin sila.
      Bagamat flat na ang gulong ng bike ng anak ko dahil hindi nagagamit ay hindi pa rin ako pumapayag na lumabas siya at maglaro.
      Kami na lang sa loob ng bahay.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on June 09, 2020, 04:48:51 PM
      This is probably the worst effect ng COVID-19 para sa ating mga Congressmen - Pegasus, Air Force One, Other KTV and Men’s Clubs Reportedly Shutting Down (https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/pegasus-air-force-one-other-ktv-and-men-s-clubs-reportedly-shutting-down/ar-BB15fdsJ)  ;D

      I read in a comment that one of the establishments has been taken by POGO operators. I can't verify that yet pero maganda na din yun kesa mabakante lang at walang kitain. Pasok din dun mga former employees ng Pegasus at Airforceone  ;)



      Ganito na rin ba sa inyo matapos ihayag na under "GCQ" na ang lugar?
      https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/multimedia/photo/06/07/20/playing-outdoors-as-lockdown-eases
      ~
      May mga nakikita na akong lumalabas pero hindi kagaya ng dati na naghahabulan. Most kids are still staying in their houses. Siguro dahil naadik na sa online games.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Vannie12 on June 14, 2020, 04:26:53 AM
      ~snip~
      Has anybody here, especially in places with GCQ, managed to get a travel pass? If so, what did you have to do to get it?

      This is the info that i have to acquire a travel pass. You need to have a mayor's certification then health certificate that you are COVID free. You need travel pass if you want to go to another region and better to check also that the region you are going to are already accepting travelers.

      You are in Cebu, right? The governor of Cebu said she will lift all the border checkpoints on June 12 and by that time also passenger ships will start their operation. I just read it on the online local newspaper and don't have a link to it.



      Iba iba din kasi po processea nila, everytime na magaupdate ng status about covid, nagbabago process ng bawat barangay or municipality.

      But nakakuha na po ako ng travel pass.
      First, you are termed as Locally staranded individual.
      medical certificate will be issued by the barangay na pinagsstayan mo, either checheck-upin ka lang or pagqquarantine ka for 14 days then after the quarantime period, bibigyan ka ng medical certificate.

      Medical certicate will be brought naman to barangay hall para mabigyan ka ng travel pass.
      If wala pa byahe ang by land ka naman uuwi and may balak ka magrent ng sasakyan, you should include sa ipapagawa mong travel pass name, plate no., and type ng sasakyan ng driver mo.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on June 17, 2020, 03:47:29 AM
      balita kagabi na ibabalik daw sa ECQ ang cebu at talisay dahil sa pagdami ulit ng cases kada araw sa area nila. eto na nga ba sinasabi ko eh. people let their guard down after the government lifting the strictness of the quarantine from ECQ to GCQ/MGCQ etc.. dito mo malalman na kung gaano tlga ka walang disiplina ang ibang pilipino. 

      “We will give attention to Cebu City and Talisay because of the spike (in the number of infections). We are thinking of deploying additional police personnel in Cebu to ensure that the ECQ would be enforced,”

      another article regarding Cebu being placed again in ECQ
      Code:
      https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/06/16/2021362/cebu-city-under-strictest-quarantine-due-widespread-covid-19-transmission

      on the other hand, I'm glad that there is a new treatment for COVID-19 which is cheap, affordable and widely available. I saw this post by philippine star on facebook that a researcher in England found evidence that a drug(dexamethasone, a steroid) can improve COVID-19 patients surviving the virus.

      Researchers in England say they have the first evidence that a drug can improve COVID-19 survival: A cheap, widely available steroid called dexamethasone reduced deaths by up to one third in severely ill hospitalized patients.

      Results were announced Tuesday and researchers said they would publish them soon. The study is a large, strict test that randomly assigned 2,104 patients to get the drug and compared them with 4,321 patients getting only usual care.

      The drug was given either orally or through an IV. After 28 days, it had reduced deaths by 35% in patients who needed treatment with breathing machines and by 20% in those only needing supplemental oxygen. It did not appear to help less ill patients.

      "This is an extremely welcome result,” one study leader, Peter Horby of the University of Oxford, said in a statement. “The survival benefit is clear and large in those patients who are sick enough to require oxygen treatment, so dexamethasone should now become standard of care in these patients. Dexamethasone is inexpensive, on the shelf, and can be used immediately to save lives worldwide.”

      Even though the drug only helps in severe cases, “countless lives will be saved globally,” said Nick Cammack of Wellcome, a British charity that supports science research.

      “Dexamethasone must now be rolled out and accessed by thousands of critically ill patients around the world,” said Cammack, who had no role in the study. “It is highly affordable, easy to make, can be scaled up quickly and only needs a small dosage.” | via AP


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bisdak40 on June 17, 2020, 05:55:34 AM
      balita kagabi na ibabalik daw sa ECQ ang cebu at talisay dahil sa pagdami ulit ng cases kada araw sa area nila. eto na nga ba sinasabi ko eh. people let their guard down after the government lifting the strictness of the quarantine from ECQ to GCQ/MGCQ etc.. dito mo malalman na kung gaano tlga ka walang disiplina ang ibang pilipino. 

      “We will give attention to Cebu City and Talisay because of the spike (in the number of infections). We are thinking of deploying additional police personnel in Cebu to ensure that the ECQ would be enforced,”

      Ang Cebu City lang ang inilagay sa ECQ status dahil ang Talisay City ay nasa MECQ.

      This few few days, meron spike sa new cases dahil na nga halos lahat ng tao dito sa metro ay lumalabas na ng bahay. Ang iba para magtrabaho at kulang talaga sa disiplina ang karamihan dahil nilalabag ang minimum health protocols kagaya ng hindi pagsosoot ng face mask at walang physical distancing. Pansin ko rin na wala masyadong political will ang mayor ng Cebu City na mahigpit na ipatutupad ang nga protocols laban covid-19. One move that i don't like is that he appealed to the IATF na ibalik sa GCQ ang Cebu City buti nalang pinayuhan siya ng DILG na gamitin ang 15 day ECQ para i-implement ng mas strikto ang ECQ protocols.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on June 17, 2020, 09:26:45 AM
      Snip
      This is the problem that the Philippines encountering right now. If the cases won't stabilize and it still grows, we will force to bring back the lockdown again. The entire Filipino citizens are in trouble specially those who have no more income and depends only in daily wages.

      I don't know what is the problem of the Government, first they implemented the Balik Probinsya Program which I think a bad move because the virus may scatter all over the Philippines. In my province, we were back in GCQ because there is a covid positive entered in our Municipality. That is all because of their unplanned Balik Probinsya Program.

      And right now, they are pursuing to have a class 2020-2021 without any further preparations between school, teachers, parents and students. Yes, it is good to continue the classes but they should have the so called "equity". But there are many students that can't afford to class because their parents have no work. See this news wherein a student hanged herself because she can't study online: news (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157859221046542&id=289960816541)



      But at the end of this, we should still follow every laws, protocols that our government implemented. Wishing also for COVID-19 to end because we are really devastated by this pandemic.

      Anyway, I can't believe that Nutildah is a Filipino citizen. Hehe. You are really a good poster and contributor of the forum.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Oasisman on June 17, 2020, 10:54:02 AM

      This is awful news. They are just going to have more economic devastation. A lot of people are out of work and already walang pera -- its gonna get pretty bad over there. Making this reverse when people had already planned on opening back up for good is a real kick to the nuts of business owners. Here in LLC we are under GCQ but I am now pretty much stuck here as there are no reasonably-priced inter-island flights until July. I can go to Olongo island but that is about it.

      Talking about economic devastation, I don't understand why the Mayor in my city eagerly wants to have the ecq or mecq back again in the city. I mean, there were few balik bayan peps who arrived since the border opened, because this is one of the project of the LGU's to bring those people back home who was locally stranded in different areas of the country, at merong spike of numbers ng nag positive this past few days, actually the total number of positive cases in my region reached 33 from 11 before the border opened. These is like the LGU's fault for not securing these balik probinsya peps in a quarantine facility for another 14 days para mas sigurado. Pero ang ng yari yung mga tao yung nag su-suffer dahil mawawalan nanaman ng trabaho at negosyo. Actually we're under GCQ since June 1, and back again at MECQ today, until the 3rd of July.
      The number of positive cases in my city is very low compared to other cities, Infact there was no local transmission, all of these positive cases has travel histories from places that records a lot of positive cases like Cebu and Manila.

      I'm so disappointed, at gusto ko lng e share.
      Sa mga medyo may alam dyan politically, tanong ko lang,
      may makukuha bang National budget yung mga LGU's na under MECQ or ECQ? Hehehe.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on June 17, 2020, 12:14:56 PM
      I'm so disappointed, at gusto ko lng e share.
      Sa mga medyo may alam dyan politically, tanong ko lang,
      may makukuha bang National budget yung mga LGU's na under MECQ or ECQ? Hehehe.

      knowing that the ECQ implemented on Cebu will only(and hoping) last for two weeks(June 16 - 30) and assuming that the LGU still has emergency funds left it is highly unlikely that they would get additional funds from the government. but if they are out of funds? they might. since they would probably have to provide food for the affected citizen when the ECQ is implemented.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: iTradeChips on June 17, 2020, 12:45:05 PM
      I'm so disappointed, at gusto ko lng e share.
      Sa mga medyo may alam dyan politically, tanong ko lang,
      may makukuha bang National budget yung mga LGU's na under MECQ or ECQ? Hehehe.

      knowing that the ECQ implemented on Cebu will only(and hoping) last for two weeks(June 16 - 30) and assuming that the LGU still has emergency funds left it is highly unlikely that they would get additional funds from the government. but if they are out of funds? they might. since they would probably have to provide food for the affected citizen when the ECQ is implemented.


      That I think in my opinion is the good thing of having a centralized government (wag kayo magalala supported ako ng decentralization kaya nga tayo nasa bitcoin diba), I mean sa isang centralized government ay magkakaroon ng direct na paghihingan ng tulong ang mga local government na nahihirapan sa pagrespond sa isang crisis. I am not quite sure if ever na maging federal tayo eh ganun pa din ang sistema. But anyway, I am positive the government might still have the funds.

      I am just concerned na marami nang naaksidente na bikers kasi sa kakulangan ng bike lanes sa bansa. I was actually watching the news at Abscbn dun sa mga stranded na tao sa pagsakay ng bus. The government should make localized economic centers within their cities para as much as possible trabaho kalang within the same city. Ganun ang pangarap ko magtrabaho ka kung saan ka nakatira malapit lang wala nang malayuang biyahe.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on June 17, 2020, 01:02:21 PM
      Ito nga pala yung mga lugar sa bansa natin na under pa rin sa ECQ, MECQ and GCQ. May possibilities pa rin talaga na bumalik sa lahat sa ECQ dahil patuloy pa rin ang pag akyat ng mga positive cases sa bansa natin.

      Photo not mine


      Ito naman pala ngayon ang total ng positive cases sating bansa. Mapapansin rin naman ang malaking pag-angat ng mga recoveries. Sana talaga magkaroon ng vaccine sa virus na ito para bumalik na ulit sa normal ang lahat. Stay safe mga kabayan!

      Photo not mine


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Nellayar on June 17, 2020, 01:47:25 PM

      Anyway, I can't believe that Nutildah is a Filipino citizen. Hehe. You are really a good poster and contributor of the forum.

      I'm actually not a citizen, more just a Permanent Tourist. I'll have to leave the country and get my passport stamped before the end of the year. But thanks anyway. I do like the Philippines and while I'm not sure I'll ever become an official citizen, I plan on spending a lot of time here.
      Oh I see! Glad to know that you travel in Philippines. Enjoy your visitation in my country. You know, It's more fun in Philippines 🇵🇭
      You can apply for a Dual citizen if you will stay for 10 yrs.

      Ito nga pala yung mga lugar sa bansa natin na under pa rin sa ECQ, MECQ and GCQ. May possibilities pa rin talaga na bumalik sa lahat sa ECQ dahil patuloy pa rin ang pag akyat ng mga positive cases sa bansa natin.


      Parang yung pagdagdag ng bilang ng kaso ay exponential. Higit sa lahat, hindi nai-stabilize ang bilang ng recoveries. Sa ayaw man o sa gusto, mukhang maibabalik na naman sa ECQ ang Pinas. Kaso, kung mangyayari pa yan mukhang hindi na natin kakayanin pa dahil malamang sa malamang paubos na ang budget at hindi na tayo kayang suplayan ng gobyerno. Ngayon nga, namomroblema na ang karamihan sa atin kasi hindi naman sapat ang relief na nakukuha.



      Ipanalangin na lang natin na matapos na ang Covid na ito. Para bumalik na din sa normal ang lahat.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on June 17, 2020, 02:22:15 PM
      Sana talaga magkaroon ng vaccine sa virus na ito para bumalik na ulit sa normal ang lahat. Stay safe mga kabayan!

      From GMA news:


      Dexamethasone hailed as first life-saving drug vs. COVID-19, reduces deaths by a third among severe cases


      Not a vaccine yet na pinakahihintay na'tin pero good naman atleast mayroon. One more thing, approved na rin siya ng WHO. But according sa ilang health experts and sa video ni Doc Willie Ong, ito ay para sa mga malalang patient na, hindi siya applicable sa mga mild nor sa virus free. Take note it is a steroid known naman na may mga side effects ito sa katawan ng tao. Kaya low dosage lang ang binibigay sa mga na sa critical condition na patients. Hoping na lang na mapunta ulit dito 'yong FAI since they knew better, para kahit papaano masuporthan 'yong mga na sa critical condition kaso may naging issue dati 'tong DOH, FDA against sa Fabunan.

      Ingat lang rin sa pagbili. Pero AFAIK, pahirapan na makabili nito unlike noon. Need na rin ng reseta ng mga doctor bago ka mabigyan. Remember may side effects ito.

      Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/world/742914/steroid-dexamethasone-reduces-deaths-among-patients-with-severe-covid-19-trial-shows/story/?fbclid=IwAR211ExTI_xzO2YdHI2wcynNcghg8eL09tBypnasxtxyRkGCoomItI8_Aoo


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arwin100 on June 17, 2020, 11:59:20 PM
      Sana talaga magkaroon ng vaccine sa virus na ito para bumalik na ulit sa normal ang lahat. Stay safe mga kabayan!

      From GMA news:


      Dexamethasone hailed as first life-saving drug vs. COVID-19, reduces deaths by a third among severe cases


      Not a vaccine yet na pinakahihintay na'tin pero good naman atleast mayroon. One more thing, approved na rin siya ng WHO. But according sa ilang health experts and sa video ni Doc Willie Ong, ito ay para sa mga malalang patient na, hindi siya applicable sa mga mild nor sa virus free. Take note it is a steroid known naman na may mga side effects ito sa katawan ng tao. Kaya low dosage lang ang binibigay sa mga na sa critical condition na patients. Hoping na lang na mapunta ulit dito 'yong FAI since they knew better, para kahit papaano masuporthan 'yong mga na sa critical condition kaso may naging issue dati 'tong DOH, FDA against sa Fabunan.

      Ingat lang rin sa pagbili. Pero AFAIK, pahirapan na makabili nito unlike noon. Need na rin ng reseta ng mga doctor bago ka mabigyan. Remember may side effects ito.

      Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/world/742914/steroid-dexamethasone-reduces-deaths-among-patients-with-severe-covid-19-trial-shows/story/?fbclid=IwAR211ExTI_xzO2YdHI2wcynNcghg8eL09tBypnasxtxyRkGCoomItI8_Aoo


      Mainam na ito atleast pinapataas ng gamot na ito ang surviv rate ng isang malubhang pasyante, pero bakit kaya di nila sinuportahan ang FAI e sa tingin ko katulas din naman ito sa kasalukuyang na diskobreng gamot? ni nawala na ngang parang bula at parang wala talaaga silang plano na subukan ang gawang pinoy, Malaking breakthrough sana un sa filipino medicine if talagang effective un.

      pero sana talaga mahanap na ung totoong gamot na mabisa talaga para matapos na ang sakit na ito.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on June 18, 2020, 04:09:40 AM
      Not 100% related sa OP.

      Rainy season na mga kabayan and, as we all know, the economy is still recovering after the 2-month lockdown. Panigurado naman na pinaghandaan na din ito ng Gobyerno pero asahan din natin na mas mahihirapan sila ngayon dahil nabawasan pa ang capacity (manpower and/or funding) kaya brace yourselves lalo na kung matamaan ng bagyo ang area ninyo. Meron naman din nakuhang loans pero mainam pa din na handa tayo.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Vaculin on June 19, 2020, 11:06:14 AM
      Not 100% related sa OP.

      Rainy season na mga kabayan and, as we all know, the economy is still recovering after the 2-month lockdown. Panigurado naman na pinaghandaan na din ito ng Gobyerno pero asahan din natin na mas mahihirapan sila ngayon dahil nabawasan pa ang capacity (manpower and/or funding) kaya brace yourselves lalo na kung matamaan ng bagyo ang area ninyo. Meron naman din nakuhang loans pero mainam pa din na handa tayo.

      Totoo din naman ito, sana hindi tayo masalanta ng bagyo dahil maaring makunan na rin ang budget ng gobyerno, another problem na rin naman.
      Kung may bagyo may mga rescue na mang yayari at paano nalang kung maka salamuha ang mga rescuers ng mga taong may covid-19?
      Alam naman nating kailangan ang social distanting pero kung may kalamidad gaya ng bagyo, hindi talaga maiiwasan na hindi ma follow yan.

      And worst kung pupunta na sila sa evacuation center, na kulang ang facility, maari ring magkahawaan doon.

      siguro naman pinag hahandaan na rin ito ng gobyerno natin, pero sana walang malakas na bagyo na dadating.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on June 20, 2020, 09:30:20 AM
      Sana talaga magkaroon ng vaccine sa virus na ito para bumalik na ulit sa normal ang lahat. Stay safe mga kabayan!

      From GMA news:


      Dexamethasone hailed as first life-saving drug vs. COVID-19, reduces deaths by a third among severe cases


      Not a vaccine yet na pinakahihintay na'tin pero good naman atleast mayroon. One more thing, approved na rin siya ng WHO. But according sa ilang health experts and sa video ni Doc Willie Ong, ito ay para sa mga malalang patient na, hindi siya applicable sa mga mild nor sa virus free. Take note it is a steroid known naman na may mga side effects ito sa katawan ng tao. Kaya low dosage lang ang binibigay sa mga na sa critical condition na patients. Hoping na lang na mapunta ulit dito 'yong FAI since they knew better, para kahit papaano masuporthan 'yong mga na sa critical condition kaso may naging issue dati 'tong DOH, FDA against sa Fabunan.

      Ingat lang rin sa pagbili. Pero AFAIK, pahirapan na makabili nito unlike noon. Need na rin ng reseta ng mga doctor bago ka mabigyan. Remember may side effects ito.

      Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/world/742914/steroid-dexamethasone-reduces-deaths-among-patients-with-severe-covid-19-trial-shows/story/?fbclid=IwAR211ExTI_xzO2YdHI2wcynNcghg8eL09tBypnasxtxyRkGCoomItI8_Aoo


      Mainam na ito atleast pinapataas ng gamot na ito ang surviv rate ng isang malubhang pasyante, pero bakit kaya di nila sinuportahan ang FAI e sa tingin ko katulas din naman ito sa kasalukuyang na diskobreng gamot? ni nawala na ngang parang bula at parang wala talaaga silang plano na subukan ang gawang pinoy, Malaking breakthrough sana un sa filipino medicine if talagang effective un.

      pero sana talaga mahanap na ung totoong gamot na mabisa talaga para matapos na ang sakit na ito.
      Mahirap parin magpakampante na safe talaga yang drug na yan gamitin sa COVID-19 related cases. Tsaka we should be careful parin sa pag bili at pag gamit ng mga gamot lalo na kung walang prescription ng doctor. Eto nga yung nirelease na statement ng FDA about sa pag gamit or pagbili nito sa mga hindi approved ng FDA kaya dapat maging maingat parin.

      https://i.postimg.cc/CLhYQPk4/image.png
                                Photo not mine

      Habang pinag aaralan pa lang ito at hindi pa ganun kasigurado na safe talaga sya at walang masamang pwedeng mangyari, ingat pa rin sa pag intake ng mga gamot


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Allenzxc on June 20, 2020, 06:06:54 PM
      Sana talaga magkaroon ng vaccine sa virus na ito para bumalik na ulit sa normal ang lahat. Stay safe mga kabayan!

      From GMA news:


      Dexamethasone hailed as first life-saving drug vs. COVID-19, reduces deaths by a third among severe cases


      Not a vaccine yet na pinakahihintay na'tin pero good naman atleast mayroon. One more thing, approved na rin siya ng WHO. But according sa ilang health experts and sa video ni Doc Willie Ong, ito ay para sa mga malalang patient na, hindi siya applicable sa mga mild nor sa virus free. Take note it is a steroid known naman na may mga side effects ito sa katawan ng tao. Kaya low dosage lang ang binibigay sa mga na sa critical condition na patients. Hoping na lang na mapunta ulit dito 'yong FAI since they knew better, para kahit papaano masuporthan 'yong mga na sa critical condition kaso may naging issue dati 'tong DOH, FDA against sa Fabunan.

      Ingat lang rin sa pagbili. Pero AFAIK, pahirapan na makabili nito unlike noon. Need na rin ng reseta ng mga doctor bago ka mabigyan. Remember may side effects ito.

      Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/world/742914/steroid-dexamethasone-reduces-deaths-among-patients-with-severe-covid-19-trial-shows/story/?fbclid=IwAR211ExTI_xzO2YdHI2wcynNcghg8eL09tBypnasxtxyRkGCoomItI8_Aoo


      Mainam na ito atleast pinapataas ng gamot na ito ang surviv rate ng isang malubhang pasyante, pero bakit kaya di nila sinuportahan ang FAI e sa tingin ko katulas din naman ito sa kasalukuyang na diskobreng gamot? ni nawala na ngang parang bula at parang wala talaaga silang plano na subukan ang gawang pinoy, Malaking breakthrough sana un sa filipino medicine if talagang effective un.

      pero sana talaga mahanap na ung totoong gamot na mabisa talaga para matapos na ang sakit na ito.

      Who knows kung kasama ba yang FAI sa trial drugs dito sa Pilipinas. Yung dexamethasone kasi kaya sinama sa trial drugs ay dahil isa yata yun sa mga ginamit noong laban sa sakit na SARS, which is related to COVID19.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bisdak40 on June 22, 2020, 09:50:13 PM
      Some update on COVID-19...

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295807/confidence-complacency-led-to-spike-in-covid-19-cases-in-cebu

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295783/duterte-orders-cimatu-to-oversee-covid-19-response-in-cebu-city

      It maybe bad news for some pero para sa akin napakagandang balita ito dahil sa wakas nakikialam na ang Palasyo sa sitwasyon dito sa Cebu. Last night, grabe ang trapik dahil iniisa-isa nila yong mga sasakyan inspeksyonen na dumadaan. Para sa akin mali yong pagbibigay ng LGU ng "special permit to operate" sa mga companies, parang binigyan nila ng pagkakataon ang virus to move out to other areas.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Asuspawer09 on June 22, 2020, 11:41:01 PM
      Some update on COVID-19...

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295807/confidence-complacency-led-to-spike-in-covid-19-cases-in-cebu

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295783/duterte-orders-cimatu-to-oversee-covid-19-response-in-cebu-city

      It maybe bad news for some pero para sa akin napakagandang balita ito dahil sa wakas nakikialam na ang Palasyo sa sitwasyon dito sa Cebu. Last night, grabe ang trapik dahil iniisa-isa nila yong mga sasakyan inspeksyonen na dumadaan. Para sa akin mali yong pagbibigay ng LGU ng "special permit to operate" sa mga companies, parang binigyan nila ng pagkakataon ang virus to move out to other areas.

      Seems like mukang tumataas pa lalo ang mga cases ng COVID-19 dito sa bansa and mukang normal na lang din dahil kung kailan mastumataas ang cases lalong lumuluwag ang mga restriction sa mga cities at sa buong Pilipinas.

      Mukang hihintayin na lang mga gobyerno na bumaba ang curved dito sa bagong normal which is i think maling move dahil maaaring magtuloy tuloy lang ang pagtaas ng cases lalo na nagbalikan ang mga trabaho. Sigurado mahihirapan tayong makarecover dahil parang sumuko na ang gobyerno parang pinapatagal na lang ng gobyerno ang process para makasurvive.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Saisher on June 24, 2020, 04:38:53 PM
      Some update on COVID-19...

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295807/confidence-complacency-led-to-spike-in-covid-19-cases-in-cebu

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295783/duterte-orders-cimatu-to-oversee-covid-19-response-in-cebu-city

      It maybe bad news for some pero para sa akin napakagandang balita ito dahil sa wakas nakikialam na ang Palasyo sa sitwasyon dito sa Cebu. Last night, grabe ang trapik dahil iniisa-isa nila yong mga sasakyan inspeksyonen na dumadaan. Para sa akin mali yong pagbibigay ng LGU ng "special permit to operate" sa mga companies, parang binigyan nila ng pagkakataon ang virus to move out to other areas.

      Pati ang ormoc at Leyte ay kasama na rin ata sa mga region na may mga dumaraming bilang ng may Covid, ang isa raw sa mga rason ay dahil sa balik probinsya program at mga locallly stranded individual na pinapa uwi na, nakakalungkot talaga isipin na nangyayari ito kasi matagal ding walang gaanong reported na hawahan sa region na yan pati yung lugar ni Richard Gomez na halos ilang buwan ding zero sa Covid.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on June 28, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
      Some update on COVID-19...

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295807/confidence-complacency-led-to-spike-in-covid-19-cases-in-cebu

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295783/duterte-orders-cimatu-to-oversee-covid-19-response-in-cebu-city

      It maybe bad news for some pero para sa akin napakagandang balita ito dahil sa wakas nakikialam na ang Palasyo sa sitwasyon dito sa Cebu. Last night, grabe ang trapik dahil iniisa-isa nila yong mga sasakyan inspeksyonen na dumadaan. Para sa akin mali yong pagbibigay ng LGU ng "special permit to operate" sa mga companies, parang binigyan nila ng pagkakataon ang virus to move out to other areas.

      Seems like mukang tumataas pa lalo ang mga cases ng COVID-19 dito sa bansa and mukang normal na lang din dahil kung kailan mastumataas ang cases lalong lumuluwag ang mga restriction sa mga cities at sa buong Pilipinas.

      Mukang hihintayin na lang mga gobyerno na bumaba ang curved dito sa bagong normal which is i think maling move dahil maaaring magtuloy tuloy lang ang pagtaas ng cases lalo na nagbalikan ang mga trabaho. Sigurado mahihirapan tayong makarecover dahil parang sumuko na ang gobyerno parang pinapatagal na lang ng gobyerno ang process para makasurvive.
      As of now, meron na tayong mahigit 35,000+ na positive cases and still rising kaya talagang nakakabahala and may isa rin akong napanood sa facebook na video about sa mga taong nakatambay sa park or sabi don sa video nagjojogging daw yung iba and nakita ko rin na yung iba ay nagbabike and yung iba naman ay talagang tumatambay don and di lang matanda yung nakita don sa video dahil marami din mga batang nandoon. Doon sa video kitang kita kung gaano kaluwag na yung restriction dahil miski social distancing ay hindi na makikita sa video. Kung patuloy ang mga ganitong pangyayari panigurado mas dodoble ang cases sa ating bansa.

      Ito yung link ng video:
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      https://www.facebook.com/john.angelo.583/videos/10213057743717317/


      Photo not mine



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on June 28, 2020, 05:40:38 PM
      Some update on COVID-19...

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295807/confidence-complacency-led-to-spike-in-covid-19-cases-in-cebu

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1295783/duterte-orders-cimatu-to-oversee-covid-19-response-in-cebu-city

      It maybe bad news for some pero para sa akin napakagandang balita ito dahil sa wakas nakikialam na ang Palasyo sa sitwasyon dito sa Cebu. Last night, grabe ang trapik dahil iniisa-isa nila yong mga sasakyan inspeksyonen na dumadaan. Para sa akin mali yong pagbibigay ng LGU ng "special permit to operate" sa mga companies, parang binigyan nila ng pagkakataon ang virus to move out to other areas.

      Seems like mukang tumataas pa lalo ang mga cases ng COVID-19 dito sa bansa and mukang normal na lang din dahil kung kailan mastumataas ang cases lalong lumuluwag ang mga restriction sa mga cities at sa buong Pilipinas.

      Mukang hihintayin na lang mga gobyerno na bumaba ang curved dito sa bagong normal which is i think maling move dahil maaaring magtuloy tuloy lang ang pagtaas ng cases lalo na nagbalikan ang mga trabaho. Sigurado mahihirapan tayong makarecover dahil parang sumuko na ang gobyerno parang pinapatagal na lang ng gobyerno ang process para makasurvive.
      As of now, meron na tayong mahigit 35,000+ na positive cases and still rising kaya talagang nakakabahala and may isa rin akong napanood sa facebook na video about sa mga taong nakatambay sa park or sabi don sa video nagjojogging daw yung iba and nakita ko rin na yung iba ay nagbabike and yung iba naman ay talagang tumatambay don and di lang matanda yung nakita don sa video dahil marami din mga batang nandoon. Doon sa video kitang kita kung gaano kaluwag na yung restriction dahil miski social distancing ay hindi na makikita sa video. Kung patuloy ang mga ganitong pangyayari panigurado mas dodoble ang cases sa ating bansa.

      I saw the Video earlier today and I am disgusted on how carefree they are na parang walang infectious na virus na kumakalat na maaring makapatay sa kahit malusog na tao. at this rate di na ko magugulat kung umabot pa ng 100k+ ang mahahawa sa COVID-19 at bumalik sa pinaka istriktong quarantine and part ng manila kung ganyang kawalang disiplina ang mga tao jan( di ko nilalahat ang tao sa manila pero madadamay sila dahil sa mga taong walang disiplina). ang ikinababahala ko lang ay sana wag madmay ang pamilya ko dahil sa kapabayaan nila.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on June 29, 2020, 01:38:00 PM
      ... I am disgusted on how carefree they are na parang walang infectious na virus na kumakalat na maaring makapatay sa kahit malusog na tao...
      Kamusta naman yung naibalita ngayon about dun sa nagparty sa isang club, 100+ ang hinuli kasama na daw ang isang artista. At ang dahilan pa ng iba eh, kesyo naimbitahan lang daw sila, tila ata akala nila lulusot.

      Mga ganitong tao dapat pinapatiwakal na, parang mamatay kapag hindi nakapagsocialize eh, parang mga tanga actually tong mga ganitong tao masyadong kampante tapos pag tinamaan maglalive sa facebook at iiyak. 😒 Kaumay.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: matchi2011 on June 29, 2020, 02:47:42 PM
      ... I am disgusted on how carefree they are na parang walang infectious na virus na kumakalat na maaring makapatay sa kahit malusog na tao...
      Kamusta naman yung naibalita ngayon about dun sa nagparty sa isang club, 100+ ang hinuli kasama na daw ang isang artista. At ang dahilan pa ng iba eh, kesyo naimbitahan lang daw sila, tila ata akala nila lulusot.

      Mga ganitong tao dapat pinapatiwakal na, parang mamatay kapag hindi nakapagsocialize eh, parang mga tanga actually tong mga ganitong tao masyadong kampante tapos pag tinamaan maglalive sa facebook at iiyak. 😒 Kaumay.
      Sinabi mo pa, mga taong akala or ginagawang tanga ung batas,alam ng bawal lumabas pero Kung makakalusot lulusot pa rin talaga. Nakakatuwa yung dahilan na naimbitahan lang eh alam na Alam naman na hindi nga pwede yung mga ganung klaseng pagtitipon. Sana lang walang makalusot na virus sa Isa man sa mga taong nahuli dagdag pa kasi yun kung sakali sa alalahanin.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on June 29, 2020, 06:02:11 PM
      ... I am disgusted on how carefree they are na parang walang infectious na virus na kumakalat na maaring makapatay sa kahit malusog na tao...
      Kamusta naman yung naibalita ngayon about dun sa nagparty sa isang club, 100+ ang hinuli kasama na daw ang isang artista. At ang dahilan pa ng iba eh, kesyo naimbitahan lang daw sila, tila ata akala nila lulusot.

      Mga ganitong tao dapat pinapatiwakal na, parang mamatay kapag hindi nakapagsocialize eh, parang mga tanga actually tong mga ganitong tao masyadong kampante tapos pag tinamaan maglalive sa facebook at iiyak. 😒 Kaumay.
      mga FOMO(Fear of missing out) ata eh. ang nakakainis pa ay nag dadahilan pa yung owner nung "resto bar"(according to the owner) na 800 daw ang kapacity nung bar nila. di nila alam na yung nakakbahala bukod sa social gathering na nangyari ay hindi sa pagsunod nung mga tao sa proper social distancing na kitang kita sa video.

      I had him take me to 2 different LBCs because the line was incredibly long at the 1st one... makes it difficult to cash out my BTC with coins.ph.
      yeah, that is one of the struggles I have to face too every time I exchanged my bitcoin into fiat. luckily I have my own motorcycle so I can choose which LBC branch that has the least people waiting in line.

      At least it is taken care of and now I can move somewhere closer to the beach. Was way past bored here -- nothing to do but eat. I probably gained 10 kilos in the past 3 months (well it feels like it anyway). "Recreational swimming" is allowed at beaches so that's good. 8)
      I'm glad you'll finally be able to quench you boredom haha.


      Cebu's Covid-19 cases are worsening if this continues there is a high chance their ECQ will be extended.

      MANILA, Philippines – The number of severe and critical COVID 19 cases in Cebu City is rising along with the death rate, which is “very much alarming” and underscores the need to continue strict lockdown restrictions in the area, according to Secretary Carlito Galvez, chief implementer of the National Task Force-COVID 19.

      Galvez said that in the Vicente Sotto Memorial Medical Center, 86 of those who died did so in less than 48 hours since being brought to the hospital.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on June 30, 2020, 01:06:51 PM
      I had him take me to 2 different LBCs because the line was incredibly long at the 1st one... makes it difficult to cash out my BTC with coins.ph.
      yeah, that is one of the struggles I have to face too every time I exchanged my bitcoin into fiat. luckily I have my own motorcycle so I can choose which LBC branch that has the least people waiting in line.
      Why don't you guys try to order gcash mastercard instead? Its only around $3 lang naman sa pagkakaaalala ko  ???. You could've it around 5 working days after ordering pero dapat valid user muna kayo pero sobrang bilis lang rin naman magpa-validate, after a minute after sending the requirements valid na kayo hehe. Para less hassle, and hahanap na lang kayo nearest atm available diyan sa area niyo if magka-cash out kayo.

      How to order gcash mastercard - click here (https://help.gcash.com/hc/en-us/articles/360017730834-How-do-I-apply-for-a-GCash-MasterCard-)



      Dunno, if I should be happy sa sinabi ni Sir. Harry Roque, congratulating PH dahil na-beat kuno raw 'yong prediction ng UP.
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      "Today is the last day na pala! Ano bang sinasabi ko? Wala na po, panalo na pala tayo! (What was I saying? Disregard that. We already won!) We beat the UP prediction po! We beat it! Congratulations, Philippines!"
      Sa dinami-rami ng possible i-address eto pa talaga. Nakaiinis lang 'cause we're still having trouble pa sa pandemic na 'to, and there's no sign of action from the government sa matagal na nating hinihintay na mass testing. Dagdag mo pa 'yong lumalaking utang ng Pilipinas  :-\.

      Take a look sa sinabi ng WHO about sa Philippines:
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      WHO also said the Philippines has the fastest rise in the entire Western Pacific region of coronavirus cases.

      Then makaririnig ka ng gano'ng balita.

      Anyway, stafe safe sa mga kababayan sa CEBU diyan.

      Source: https://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/inside-track/265287-roque-spins-again-congratulations-philippines-up-coronavirus-estimate-proven-wrong


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Metamorphosis20 on July 04, 2020, 04:45:41 PM
      Kahapon lang mayroon na naman tayong bagong record nang additional case ng coronavirus sa Pilipinas. 1,531 new cases kaya halos lahat ng reported case natin sa bansa ay nasa 40,336 na excluding the backlogs ng DOH. Ilang araw lang ito matapos ang interview kay Harry Roque congratulating Philippines kase na-beat daw natin ang 40,000 confirmed cases na prediction ng UP.

      Hindi natin alam kung kailan ba talaga ito matatapos kasi halos araw araw may fresh cases. Hindi rin tama na magsisihan tayo lalo na kung wala talagang choice ang karamihan sa atin kung hindi lumabas ng bahay at maghanapbuhay. Ang mga dahilan siguro kung bakit napakahirap para sa ating kalabanin ang sakit na ito ay ang mga sumusunod:

      (1) mahirap na bansa ang Pilipinas - hindi kayang suportahan ng gobyerno ang mga mamamayan nitong mawawalan ng hanapbuhay.

      (2) walang konkretong plano kung ano ang mga dapat ipatupad at unahin sa nga ganitong pagkakataon. - mas pinagtuunan pa ng ating mga mambabatas na magpasa ng mga batas na walang kinalaman sa solusyon sa ating kinakaharap na problema.

      (3) walang disiplina ang karamihan sa mga kababayan natin. - sa halip na sumunod sa guidelines ng gobyerno mas pinipili pang kondinahin ang mga patakarang pangkaligtasan ng nakakarami. Panahong bawal magtipon tipon, nakukuha pang magpaparty at magrally.

      Sana lang talaga sa mga susubon na araw o buwan ay may maaprubahan ng vaccine para kahit papaano gumaan ang ating kalooban at mabawasan ang ating mga isipin parungkol sa Covid 19. Manatili sana taying ligtas lahat.






      Source: https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-07-03/philippines-reports-1-531-new-coronavirus-cases-largest-single-day-increase


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on July 04, 2020, 11:16:48 PM
      Kahapon lang mayroon na naman tayong bagong record nang additional case ng coronavirus sa Pilipinas. 1,531 new cases kaya halos lahat ng reported case natin sa bansa ay nasa 40,336 na excluding the backlogs ng DOH. Ilang araw lang ito matapos ang interview kay Harry Roque congratulating Philippines kase na-beat daw natin ang 40,000 confirmed cases na prediction ng UP.

      Hindi natin alam kung kailan ba talaga ito matatapos kasi halos araw araw may fresh cases. Hindi rin tama na magsisihan tayo lalo na kung wala talagang choice ang karamihan sa atin kung hindi lumabas ng bahay at maghanapbuhay. Ang mga dahilan siguro kung bakit napakahirap para sa ating kalabanin ang sakit na ito ay ang mga sumusunod:

      (1) mahirap na bansa ang Pilipinas - hindi kayang suportahan ng gobyerno ang mga mamamayan nitong mawawalan ng hanapbuhay.

      (2) walang konkretong plano kung ano ang mga dapat ipatupad at unahin sa nga ganitong pagkakataon. - mas pinagtuunan pa ng ating mga mambabatas na magpasa ng mga batas na walang kinalaman sa solusyon sa ating kinakaharap na problema.

      (3) walang disiplina ang karamihan sa mga kababayan natin. - sa halip na sumunod sa guidelines ng gobyerno mas pinipili pang kondinahin ang mga patakarang pangkaligtasan ng nakakarami. Panahong bawal magtipon tipon, nakukuha pang magpaparty at magrally.

      Sana lang talaga sa mga susubon na araw o buwan ay may maaprubahan ng vaccine para kahit papaano gumaan ang ating kalooban at mabawasan ang ating mga isipin parungkol sa Covid 19. Manatili sana taying ligtas lahat.


      Source: https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-07-03/philippines-reports-1-531-new-coronavirus-cases-largest-single-day-increase

      1. this is true! I don't like that the government assured the people na may sapat na pera para kalabanin ang covid-19 nung nag sisimula pa lang ang pandemya. the government should've been blunt and didn't sugar coated anything and just said na may pera tayo pero kung tatagal ito ay matatalo tayo at maapektuhan ang lahat.  

      2. hindi porke nag pasa ng bago batas ay ibigsaihin ay di na nila pinag tutuunan ng pansin ang problema sa covid-19. pero I agree na masyadong kulang sa konkretong plano at ang masama pa hindi nasuusnod ng maayos ng ilang LGU's at mamamayan ang mga patakarang ginagawa nila.

      3. one of the major reason kung bakit patuloy na tumataas pa rin ang bilang ng infected cases ditp sa bansa. madalas talaga nanyayari ang pagkundina pag hindi pambato ng sikat na political party ang nanalo sa eleksyon(lalo na sa pag ka presidente or vice president)

      Ilang araw lang ito matapos ang interview kay Harry Roque congratulating Philippines kase na-beat daw natin ang 40,000 confirmed cases na prediction ng UP.
      to be honest this proves na gumana yung pag implement ng ECQ sa mga cities. kaya lang ay marami pa rin ang hindi sumunod or hindi alam ang proper protocol kung paano maiwasan ang mahawa.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Metamorphosis20 on July 05, 2020, 12:42:54 AM
      Binili na pala ng US ang lahat ng supply at future supply ng Remdesivir - (isang antiviral medication na gawa ng GiLead Sciences) para masecure na sila ang mauunang magkaroon ng unang gamot na promising ang ang resulta sa mga nagkakasakit ng COVID-19.

      Nangangahulugan ito na mahihirapan ang ibang mga bansa na magkaroon nito lalong lalo na ang Pilipinas unless may ibang pharmaceutical company na gagawa ng generic nito at ibebenta ng mas mura. Sa ngayon kasi ang halaga ng limang araw na gamutan gamit ang Remdesivir ay maaring magkahalaga ng $3120.

      Responding to a question about the US hoarding the world’s supply of remdesivir, Dr. Mike Ryan, WHO executive director of Health Emergencies Program, expressed concern noting, "Obviously, there are many people around the world who are very sick with this disease and we want to ensure that everybody has access to the necessary lifesaving interventions.”

      Ano ang implikasyon nito para sa health security ng ating bansa at ibang mga bansa pa na hindi kayang bumili ng ganito kamahal na gamot ngunit maraming severe case ng Covid-19? Paano na kaya tayo?


      Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2020/07/02/us-buys-world-supply-of-remdesivir-for-coronaviruswhat-does-that-mean-for-public-health-and-our-future/


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on July 05, 2020, 09:39:32 AM
      As of now, pumalo na sa 44,000+ positive cases ng COVID-19 sa ating bansa. Ipinapakita lang nito na patuloy na nadadagdagan ang bilang kung kaya't hindi maiwasan ng mga tao ang mabahala, dahil alam naman natin na madami pa din ang mga taong hindi sumusunod sa panuntunan ng pamahalaan. At, hanggang ngayon ay wala pa rin lunas para sa virus na ito. Sa tingin ko rin mukhang aabot ng 55,000-60,000 ang positive cases pagtapos ng buwan ng ito pero wag naman sana mangyari. Stay safe pa rin mga kabayan!!!!




      Edit: ito na pala yung latest number of positive cases.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Metamorphosis20 on July 05, 2020, 10:42:42 AM
      As of now, pumalo na sa 44,000+ positive cases ng COVID-19 sa ating bansa. Ipinapakita lang nito na patuloy na nadadagdagan ang bilang kung kaya't hindi maiwasan ng mga tao ang mabahala, dahil alam naman natin na madami pa din ang mga taong hindi sumusunod sa panuntunan ng pamahalaan. At, hanggang ngayon ay wala pa rin lunas para sa virus na ito. Sa tingin ko rin mukhang aabot ng 55,000-60,000 ang positive cases pagtapos ng buwan ng ito pero wag naman sana mangyari. Stay safe pa rin mga kabayan!!!!




      Edit: ito na pala yung latest number of positive cases.



      Hindi nga malayo na lumobo pa ang case ng coronavirus na ito. Pero kung titignan naten mataas din naman ang percentage ng recoveries na halos nasa 25%. Siguro kung magkakaroon ng mass testing, tataas pa lalo ang bilang ng mga confirmed cases since madami sa atin ang asymptomatic, hindi naten alam na baka positive tayo. Pero kung mag-aundergo tayo ng swab test saka pa lang natin malalaman na positive pala tayo. Nakakalungkot din isipin na nagrerely tayo sa RDT o yung tinatawag na rapid diagnostic test na sa maraming pananaliksik at pag-aaral ay hindi accurate ang results pero dahil mas mura ito, ito lang ang naaafford naten.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on July 05, 2020, 12:17:21 PM
      -
      Hindi nga malayo na lumobo pa ang case ng coronavirus na ito. Pero kung titignan naten mataas din naman ang percentage ng recoveries na halos nasa 25%. Siguro kung magkakaroon ng mass testing, tataas pa lalo ang bilang ng mga confirmed cases since madami sa atin ang asymptomatic, hindi naten alam na baka positive tayo. Pero kung mag-aundergo tayo ng swab test saka pa lang natin malalaman na positive pala tayo. Nakakalungkot din isipin na nagrerely tayo sa RDT o yung tinatawag na rapid diagnostic test na sa maraming pananaliksik at pag-aaral ay hindi accurate ang results pero dahil mas mura ito, ito lang ang naaafford naten.

      Sa pagkakaalala ko mass testing is supposedly for PUIs and PUMs which means 'yong mass testing isn't meant for everybody, right? Well, anyway yeah it would have a significant sa numbers we have right now. Pero good thing 'yon para at least we aren't blind sa statistics natin ngayon. Good thing, 'yong ibang LGU did their part sa city under their governance. Valenzuela ata 'yong pinakaunang nag-proceed ng mass testing, right? Not sure if may nagfollow up pa na other city sa kanila. Haven't heard of any eh  :D.

      One more thing, problem now is, the government is prioritizing unnecessary stuff na nase-set aside na 'yong issue na should be deal with in the first place. Nakapangangamba pa kasi Anti Terrorism Bill has been now signed by the President, so it is a law na damn. One way thing to silenced the community para mag-voice out sa mga shortcomings nila.

      Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/philippine-president-duterte-signs-controversial-anti-terror-law/a-54042578


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Metamorphosis20 on July 05, 2020, 01:16:19 PM
      -
      Hindi nga malayo na lumobo pa ang case ng coronavirus na ito. Pero kung titignan naten mataas din naman ang percentage ng recoveries na halos nasa 25%. Siguro kung magkakaroon ng mass testing, tataas pa lalo ang bilang ng mga confirmed cases since madami sa atin ang asymptomatic, hindi naten alam na baka positive tayo. Pero kung mag-aundergo tayo ng swab test saka pa lang natin malalaman na positive pala tayo. Nakakalungkot din isipin na nagrerely tayo sa RDT o yung tinatawag na rapid diagnostic test na sa maraming pananaliksik at pag-aaral ay hindi accurate ang results pero dahil mas mura ito, ito lang ang naaafford naten.

      Sa pagkakaalala ko mass testing is supposedly for PUIs and PUMs which means 'yong mass testing isn't meant for everybody, right? Well, anyway yeah it would have a significant sa numbers we have right now. Pero good thing 'yon para at least we aren't blind sa statistics natin ngayon. Good thing, 'yong ibang LGU did their part sa city under their governance. Valenzuela ata 'yong pinakaunang nag-proceed ng mass testing, right? Not sure if may nagfollow up pa na other city sa kanila. Haven't heard of any eh  :D.

      One more thing, problem now is, the government is prioritizing unnecessary stuff na nase-set aside na 'yong issue na should be deal with in the first place. Nakapangangamba pa kasi Anti Terrorism Bill has been now signed by the President, so it is a law na damn. One way thing to silenced the community para mag-voice out sa mga shortcomings nila.

      Source: https://www.[Suspicious link removed]s/amp.dw.com/en/philippine-president-duterte-signs-controversial-anti-terror-law/a-54042578


      Mass testing means maramihan pero hindi lahat. Ang priority dyan is yung may direct contact dun sa mga positive cases para malessen yung magiging contact pa nila at para malessen din yung spread pa.

      Source : https://www.[Suspicious link removed]s/amp.rappler.com/views/imho/262622-opinion-why-still-defining-mass-testing-dengue-about-arrive

      Aa of now meron naman na tayong 34,000 testing capacity per day at tumataas pa ito lalo na ngayon na mas marami ng facility na nagkaconduct ng test. Magandang balita ito para sa ating lahat. Mapapansin natin na mas tumataas ang bilang ng positive case ng covid-19 kase mas marami na tayong natetest kada araw.

      Source: https://www.manilatimes.net/2020/06/03/news/top-stories/testing-capacity-now-34k-per-day-palace/728989/


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on July 07, 2020, 06:58:13 AM
      more and more bad news is coming in. 186 MRT employees test positive to COVID-19 some of those employees that tested positive are ticket sellers and train drivers. there is a chance that these MRT employees passed the virus to the passengers they interact with(which is alarming)

      The Metro Rail Transit Line 3 will suspend operations beginning today after 14 more MRT-3 personnel tested positive for the coronavirus disease 2019, bringing to 186 the total number of employees infected with COVID-19.




      although not COVID-19 related I thought it might be good that people are informed

      suspect of bubonic plague (Aka "Black death") found in china's inner Mongolia

      In the Chinese region of Inner Mongolia, a city is on high alert. On Sunday, they identified the suspected case of a disease that has persisted centuries after it caused the most deadly pandemic in human history -- the bubonic plague.

      UPDATE: Chinese authorities have confirmed the case of bubonic plague in china's inner Mongolia
      Code:
      https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Case-of-bubonic-plague-confirmed-by-Chinese-authorities-571674791.html

      a new type of H1N1(called "G4") found in china. although some article that this new type of H1N1 is not an immediate thread people should still be cautious especially pig farmers.
      A team of researchers in China has identified an emerging influenza virus that might pose a threat in a future flu season. But the new virus so far cannot jump from person to person, a key attribute for becoming a pandemic in humans.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on July 16, 2020, 10:25:22 AM
      I just happen to cross with this one. And it seems a good news somehow. Although many claim na 'yong creation ng vaccine normally takes a year or more. However, Russia seem to have one na.

      Quote
      ...it had developed a "safe" coronavirus vaccine following clinical trials on a group of volunteers.

      The ministry said 18 people had participated in the research and were discharged without "serious adverse events, health complaints, complications or side effects."
      Sources: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/world/747076/russia-military-says-virus-vaccine-is-tested-and-safe/story/
                       https://www.facebook.com/116724526976/posts/10159040117451977/

      It is still a test pa naman. Long term effects isn't yet clear. Pero good thing kasi at least may product na kaysa wala, right?


      On the other hand, sadly, we have surpassed 60k covid-19 confirmed cases.

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      The number of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) cases in the Philippines topped 61,000 on Thursday after the Department of Health (DOH) reported 2,498 more infections--1,246 “fresh” or newly validated and 1,252 reported late--bringing the total to 61,266.
      Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/747180/philippines-covid-19-tally-tops-61-000-with-2-498-new-cases/story/

      And yet Sec. Duque announced na we have flattened the curve ???. Not to mention na 'yong Philippines is on top of most active cases in S.E.A. Ewan ko ba how he came up with such conclusion. I just hope na 'yong so-called na vaccine nung Russia is ma-confirm na, and maging available na for global scale production.

      Here's the proof doon sa most active cases na sinabi ko: https://www.facebook.com/1977102099010584/posts/3141291835924932/


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on July 16, 2020, 03:38:43 PM

      On the other hand, sadly, we have surpassed 60k covid-19 confirmed cases.

      Akala ko aabot pa ng katapusan bago umabot ng 55,000-60,000 ang confirmed cases sa bansa natin. Sa tingin ninyo aabot tayo ng 80,000 confirmed cases pagtapos ng buwan na ito? and parang hindi rin kapani-paniwala na we flattened the curve dahil hanggang ngayon almost 1,000-2,000+ a day lagi ang na add sa confirmed cases.

      https://i.imgur.com/DLHUxLI.png
      Ito yung mga lugar ngayon na under pa rin sa MECQ, GCQ and MGCQ. and AFAIK, sa Navotas ay meron hard lockdown dahil sa biglaang pagtaas ng confirmed cases sa kanilang lugar.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on July 17, 2020, 08:39:32 AM
      ...sa Navotas ay meron hard lockdown dahil sa biglaang pagtaas ng confirmed cases sa kanilang lugar.
      Ang mabuti nyan ibalik na lang sa ECQ lahat. tapos ang mga trabahador naka stay-in sa mga private company at yung mga namamasada gawjng permanent service ng ilan, para hindi nagrereklamk na mamamatay sila sa gutom, pucha 6 months buhay ka pa kahit wala kang kain at puro tubig lang.

      Then bigyan lang ulit bawat bahay ng isang taong pwede lang lumabas para sa pamamalengke ng kung ano ano, then ang payment system ay tru online (cashless), para mabawasan kahit konti yung risks. Sa dami ng bobo, mangmang, inutil at pasaway na Pilipino hindi malabing abutin tayo ng Milyon, at bawat araw may mamamatay dahil sa pandemiyang iyan.

      Pero sana kung magkataon man na ibalik sa ECQ, ang mga frontliners dapat pwedeng nakaangkas sa motor kung mayroon man silang service dahil ang k***l promise ng patakaran nila na bawal magkaangkas samantalang magkasama sa iisang bahay (ngayon para lang sa mag asawa/partner) as long as na may COE ung frontliner then ung driver eh may Quarantine Pass.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on July 17, 2020, 05:27:53 PM
      -
      Akala ko aabot pa ng katapusan bago umabot ng 55,000-60,000 ang confirmed cases sa bansa natin. Sa tingin ninyo aabot tayo ng 80,000 confirmed cases pagtapos ng buwan na ito? and parang hindi rin kapani-paniwala na we flattened the curve dahil hanggang ngayon almost 1,000-2,000+ a day lagi ang na add sa confirmed cases.

      Actually, hindi malabong hindi mangyari. Kung laging ganiyan, 4 digits lagi increment sa mga confirmed cases natin. Dagdag mo pa 'yong vague na mga decision ng gobyerno natin. And in addition, 'yong daring na mga pinoy na even simple obligation lang na pag-susuot ng mask 'di pa magawa  :-\.


      Well, anyway dagdag news lang regarding sa isa sa pinakamalaking pangamba ng mga pinoy.
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      Anti-terror law takes effect this midnight
      Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/newsinfo.inquirer.net/1308359/anti-terror-law-takes-effect-midnight-of-july-18/amp

      Doble ingat when it comes to posting something against the government. There was a college student na pinatawag ata ng NBI 'cause of criticizing Sen. Bong Go. Though may possible violation ata siya but what I'm pointing out is ganiyan sila ka sensitive. Be wary!

      Ito yung balita tungkol dun:
      https://philnews.ph/2020/07/17/college-student-receives-subpoena-nbi-criticizing-senator-bong-go/

      Stay safe, y'all.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on July 17, 2020, 06:25:20 PM
      Doble ingat when it comes to posting something against the government. There was a college student na pinatawag ata ng NBI 'cause of criticizing Sen. Bong Go. Though may possible violation ata siya but what I'm pointing out is ganiyan sila ka sensitive...
      masyado naman kasi atang Direct yung tama ng post, which is talagang considered as personal attack, may kaso talaga iyan. We could still use memes, and other forms ng pambabatikos pero yung Direct wag naman masyado dahil kahit papaano naman may ginagawa pa din ang pamahalaan natin.

      may mga K***l talagang nasa katungkulan katulad na lang nung nagsuggest ng barrier sa motorsiklo, abay talagang saludo ako sa pinairal na katangahan, wala akong masabi kundi kawawa kaming mga riders. Dagdag Gastos na, alanganin pa sa seguridad sa kalsada.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: finaleshot2016 on July 17, 2020, 09:46:38 PM
      Doble ingat when it comes to posting something against the government. There was a college student na pinatawag ata ng NBI 'cause of criticizing Sen. Bong Go. Though may possible violation ata siya but what I'm pointing out is ganiyan sila ka sensitive...
      masyado naman kasi atang Direct yung tama ng post, which is talagang considered as personal attack, may kaso talaga iyan. We could still use memes, and other forms ng pambabatikos pero yung Direct wag naman masyado dahil kahit papaano naman may ginagawa pa din ang pamahalaan natin.

      may mga K***l talagang nasa katungkulan katulad na lang nung nagsuggest ng barrier sa motorsiklo, abay talagang saludo ako sa pinairal na katangahan, wala akong masabi kundi kawawa kaming mga riders. Dagdag Gastos na, alanganin pa sa seguridad sa kalsada.
      Siya kasi mismo nag-utos sa mismong NBI na i-examine lahat ng posts tungkol sa kanya. Some of it are just criticism and sa tingin ko hindi naman ata okay ipatawag yung student dahil crinitiscize niya yung senador na yon. The fact that people's money ang kanilang kinikita, they should accept criticism kung may nakikitang mali ang mga tao. Pero may iilan nga diyan na sobrang below the belt na memes and posts pero can't blame those people kasi sila rin yung mga naaagrabyado sa desisyon ng gobyerno. Also, nawawala ang pagiging professional, if a simple post sa social media affects them, mas lalo siguro in personal baka may hindi magandang mangyari.

      https://rappler.com/nation/bong-go-asked-nbi-probe-social-media-posts-against-him
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      The NBI earlier subpoenaed an individual who ranted on Facebook about the administration's spending, criticizing how the government did not initially have funds for health workers when it was earlier able to buy a P2 billion jet.

      Totoo, ang usual naman na umaangkas sa motor ay relatives or asawa which is kasama mo rin sa bahay mo. Kaya ano pa ang sense ng protective shield kung after naman ng ride, sila rin makakasama mo sa bahay. Pero sa mga angkas riders, medyo risky pa din lalo na't kung yung helmet ng angkas ang gagamitin nila, they should buy their own helmet if araw-araw silang gumagamit ng angkas. Kaya di ko na alam kung anong mangyayari sa bansa natin, lumabas lahat ng flaws dahil sa pandemic na ito.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on July 18, 2020, 03:20:14 PM
      Siya kasi mismo nag-utos sa mismong NBI na i-examine lahat ng posts tungkol sa kanya. Some of it are just criticism and sa tingin ko hindi naman ata okay ipatawag yung student dahil crinitiscize niya yung senador na yon. The fact that people's money ang kanilang kinikita, they should accept criticism kung may nakikitang mali ang mga tao. Pero may iilan nga diyan na sobrang below the belt na memes and posts pero can't blame those people kasi sila rin yung mga naaagrabyado sa desisyon ng gobyerno. Also, nawawala ang pagiging professional, if a simple post sa social media affects them, mas lalo siguro in personal baka may hindi magandang mangyari.

      To summarize - he's just pathetic. Of all people na nakaka-receive ng hate or nang mas malala pa na accusations siya pa talaga nag-dare magpa-examine ng mga ganyan. What a bum!

      Totoo, ang usual naman na umaangkas sa motor ay relatives or asawa which is kasama mo rin sa bahay mo. Kaya ano pa ang sense ng protective shield kung after naman ng ride, sila rin makakasama mo sa bahay. Pero sa mga angkas riders, medyo risky pa din lalo na't kung yung helmet ng angkas ang gagamitin nila, they should buy their own helmet if araw-araw silang gumagamit ng angkas. Kaya di ko na alam kung anong mangyayari sa bansa natin, lumabas lahat ng flaws dahil sa pandemic na ito.

      Anytime soon ite-take down rin nilang 'tong implementation nila. Preventive measure against virus infection? More like hanap aksidente lang e   :-\.

      There were reports na nag-cause na ng accident 'to though I'm not sure if 'yong narrative is certain kasi 'di ko nabalitaan 'to sa gma nor nakita sa ibang news outlet.

      Here's the post:
      • https://www.facebook.com/106370767408881/posts/311398626906093/
      • https://www.facebook.com/100116391690795/posts/148254876876946/

      If gagamit kayo make sure 'yong 'di masyado makakaapekto sa hangin, 'yong barrier ata na gawa ng angkas is effective against wind. Nonetheless, ingat sa ride as always.


      Almost 15k confirmed cases away na lang tayo to reach 80k @plvbob0070. And yet almost 2 weeks pa bago matapos ang July. I'm afraid we might even surpass 90k kung patuloy na ganito 'yong dagdag. Pero h'wag naman sana.

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      Philippines' COVID-19 cases exceed 65,000 with 2,357 new infections
      Here's the source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/747464/philippines-covid-19-cases-exceed-65-000-with-2-357-new-infections/story/

      Bear in mind na dami na rin nag-open na work ngayon, some protocols aren't being properly followed na, like 'yong social distancing sa LRT, look more 'bout it here (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/metro/747486/passenger-dismayed-over-lack-of-social-distancing-at-lrt-1/story/?utm_source=GMANews&utm_medium=Facebook). Kapangamba lang kung may makapasok na isang carrier don.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Peanutswar on July 18, 2020, 03:41:50 PM

      Totoo, ang usual naman na umaangkas sa motor ay relatives or asawa which is kasama mo rin sa bahay mo. Kaya ano pa ang sense ng protective shield kung after naman ng ride, sila rin makakasama mo sa bahay. Pero sa mga angkas riders, medyo risky pa din lalo na't kung yung helmet ng angkas ang gagamitin nila, they should buy their own helmet if araw-araw silang gumagamit ng angkas. Kaya di ko na alam kung anong mangyayari sa bansa natin, lumabas lahat ng flaws dahil sa pandemic na ito.

      According naman sa naman sa association ng Angkas ay kada gamit ng kanilang customers are nag sasagawa nila ng sanitation sa mga ito which is good pero hindi natin maaalis sa ating sarili ang mga salitang "Paano kung" ganito, ganyan.
      Maganda din namang ideya ang pag gamit ng sariling helmet pero di natin matatanggi ang mga may maaring mag reklamo na "uunahin paba namin ang bumili ng ganyan kaysa pangkain?", hindi malayong may magsalita ng ganito pero sa kanilang kaligtasan padin maman iyon.


      Almost 15k confirmed cases away na lang tayo to reach 80k @plvbob0070. And yet almost 2 weeks pa bago matapos ang July. I'm afraid we might even surpass 90k kung patuloy na ganito 'yong dagdag. Pero h'wag naman sana.
      .

      Tingin ko ay panalo na tayo *insert meme*. Kahit tayo ang nangunguna sa listahan ng madalas mag sabi na mag face mask lagi ay isa padin tayo sa mga may pinaka mataas na number of cases, sana unahin nila ang laban sa covid hindi iyong di mahahalagang ibang pinag tutuunan ng pansin.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Mometaskers on July 21, 2020, 03:22:05 PM
      Decided to check on the forum (trying to keep myself busy with something else). So, kamusta na kayo? It seems the covid situation is not getting any better. Then ngayon lang sila magsasabi na #1 problem natin to after trying to downplay it for like half a year.

      Personally I got a scare last week, di na nga ako lumalabas pero trinangkaso ako. Nung una akala ko lang masakit lang talaga likod ko kasi wala naman akong lagnat, after a few days na lang siya lumabas. Will I get myself checked to see if that was a mild case? No.


      Tingin ko ay panalo na tayo *insert meme*. Kahit tayo ang nangunguna sa listahan ng madalas mag sabi na mag face mask lagi ay isa padin tayo sa mga may pinaka mataas na number of cases, sana unahin nila ang laban sa covid hindi iyong di mahahalagang ibang pinag tutuunan ng pansin.

      Panalo na tayo sa number of active cases sa ASEAN, above Indonesia at 2nd place naman sa number of total cases, this time with Indonesia below naman. Where's my #PinoyPride Squad.

      Totoo, ang usual naman na umaangkas sa motor ay relatives or asawa which is kasama mo rin sa bahay mo. Kaya ano pa ang sense ng protective shield kung after naman ng ride, sila rin makakasama mo sa bahay. Pero sa mga angkas riders, medyo risky pa din lalo na't kung yung helmet ng angkas ang gagamitin nila, they should buy their own helmet if araw-araw silang gumagamit ng angkas. Kaya di ko na alam kung anong mangyayari sa bansa natin, lumabas lahat ng flaws dahil sa pandemic na ito.

      Ito mismo sinisigaw ko sa TV habang nakafacepalm nung malaman kong official na talaga yang plastic barrier requirement. Like, what's the use of putting a sheet to separate the couple if they're just going to go home to the same house, sleep on the same bed and give each other mouth kisses? Ang BOBO talaga!


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: asu on July 22, 2020, 12:15:54 PM
      Japan approves dexamethasone as second drug for coronavirus treatment (https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/07/22/national/science-health/japan-approves-dexamethasone-coronavirus/)
      UK approves dexamethasone for Covid-19 patients after positive data (https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/uk-approves-dexamethasone/)

      It's all over the news now. Japan and UK approved dexamethasone as second coronavirus treatment.

      I wonder kung ano ang ginagawa ng DOH at FDA ngayon at still may warning pa din para sa paggamit ng dexamethasone dito satin?

      Napakabagal kumilos. ::)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on July 22, 2020, 02:39:07 PM
      Japan approves dexamethasone as second drug for coronavirus treatment (https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/07/22/national/science-health/japan-approves-dexamethasone-coronavirus/)
      UK approves dexamethasone for Covid-19 patients after positive data (https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/uk-approves-dexamethasone/)

      It's all over the news now. Japan and UK approved dexamethasone as second coronavirus treatment.

      I wonder kung ano ang ginagawa ng DOH at FDA ngayon at still may warning pa din para sa paggamit ng dexamethasone dito satin?

      Napakabagal kumilos. ::)

      baka wala pa silang result sa sarili nilang test sa dexamethasone kaya di pa sila nag bibigay ng persmission para gamitin ito sa mga covid-19 patients. it is important that they have their own result to see if it is safe to use to covid-19 patients.  but I agree na mabagal sila kumilos.


      nakita ko lang sa facebook yung news na gagamit sila ng tsismosa para gawing contact tracers.

      https://www.interaksyon.com/trends-spotlights/2020/07/22/173442/tsismosa-as-contact-tracers-what-it-takes-to-become-one-according-to-contact-tracing-czar/


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: asu on July 22, 2020, 03:02:40 PM
      baka wala pa silang result sa sarili nilang test sa dexamethasone kaya di pa sila nag bibigay ng persmission para gamitin ito sa mga covid-19 patients. it is important that they have their own result to see if it is safe to use to covid-19 patients.  but I agree na mabagal sila kumilos.

      I don't think they are really trying the dexamethasone treatment. Wala lang talaga silang interest para subukan ito, last few months ago pa na news yung drugs and dapat may result na siya kung gumawa sila ng testing (I hope I'm wrong here though).


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on July 22, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
      baka wala pa silang result sa sarili nilang test sa dexamethasone kaya di pa sila nag bibigay ng persmission para gamitin ito sa mga covid-19 patients. it is important that they have their own result to see if it is safe to use to covid-19 patients.  but I agree na mabagal sila kumilos.
      -snip

      I don't think they are really trying the dexamethasone treatment. Wala lang talaga silang interest para subukan ito,
      I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. the thing is tests takes time and results needs to be properly analyzed. they also can't just rely on the information given by others (even if it is very reliable). if they didn't made tests DOH is wasting precious opportunity to save lives.

      last few months ago pa na news yung drugs and dapat may result na siya kung gumawa sila ng testing (I hope I'm wrong here though).
      article news about dexamethasone as a potentially new kind of treatment for COVID-19 patients only started showing up mid-June last month after UK researcher saying that dexamethasone have positive results on covid-19 treatments(I also made a post about it last month the moment after reading an article about it).seeing that japan only made a statement now we might still have to wait for bit if DOH will allow the use of dexamethasone for covid patients

      (I hope I'm wrong here though).
      I hope so too.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: asu on July 22, 2020, 05:55:06 PM
      I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. the thing is tests takes time and results needs to be properly analyzed. they also can't just rely on the information given by others (even if it is very reliable). if they didn't made tests DOH is wasting precious opportunity to save lives.
      Time is of the essence. The number of average positive cases is not decreasing, even if they did some tests (presumably this month), they're not just wasting lives but time.

      'F as in falfak': PH gov't gets failing marks in COVID-19 response from these experts (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/22/20/f-as-in-falfak-ph-govt-gets-failing-marks-in-covid-19-response-from-these-experts)

      As per the article. We're up to being no.15 countries with a highest active cases and no.1 in ASEAN. Imagine that and it could be more worse...


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arielbit on July 22, 2020, 07:29:53 PM
      I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. the thing is tests takes time and results needs to be properly analyzed. they also can't just rely on the information given by others (even if it is very reliable). if they didn't made tests DOH is wasting precious opportunity to save lives.
      Time is of the essence. The number of average positive cases is not decreasing, even if they did some tests (presumably this month), they're not just wasting lives but time.

      'F as in falfak': PH gov't gets failing marks in COVID-19 response from these experts (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/22/20/f-as-in-falfak-ph-govt-gets-failing-marks-in-covid-19-response-from-these-experts)

      As per the article. We're up to being no.15 countries with a highest active cases and no.1 in ASEAN. Imagine that and it could be more worse...

      LOL.

      a lot of you still don't get it. the government don't care about you and what is the cutting edge and latest out there.

      whatever it is that will be going inside the country, they are the middle man and they will have their nice slice of the pie (people's money). the visible part is tax and the invisible part is corruption.

      the virus is not that deadly, that's why the government have time and priority for anti terror bill, to gain more..why is the junk that is inside the groceries are still in there that causes more deaths than COVID-19? because it is all about the gains. no one cares.

      eat healthy, live healthy and have your supplements. your immune system is the one that really cares about you.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on July 22, 2020, 08:25:55 PM
      I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. the thing is tests takes time and results needs to be properly analyzed. they also can't just rely on the information given by others (even if it is very reliable). if they didn't made tests DOH is wasting precious opportunity to save lives.
      Time is of the essence. The number of average positive cases is not decreasing, even if they did some tests (presumably this month), they're not just wasting lives but time.

      'F as in falfak': PH gov't gets failing marks in COVID-19 response from these experts (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/22/20/f-as-in-falfak-ph-govt-gets-failing-marks-in-covid-19-response-from-these-experts)

      As per the article. We're up to being no.15 countries with a highest active cases and no.1 in ASEAN. Imagine that and it could be more worse...

      LOL.

      a lot of you still don't get it. the government don't care about you and what is the cutting edge and latest out there.

      whatever it is that will be going inside the country, they are the middle man and they will have their nice slice of the pie (people's money). the visible part is tax and the invisible part is corruption.

      the virus is not that deadly, that's why the government have time and priority for anti terror bill, to gain more..why is the junk that is inside the groceries are still in there that causes more deaths than COVID-19? because it is all about the gains. no one cares.


      I agree that it is not deadly compared to other viruses but the alarming part here is it has no vaccine, no medicine, severe symptoms, incomplete knowledge of the virus, etc.. the infection rate is also incredibly high and can travel easily from person to person which can easily reach old people and unhealthy. doesn't it alarm you that 1800+ already died in a matter of months here in the Philippines because of one virus? do you have statistics or stemate on how many people have died because of "junks" in a matter of months?

      eat healthy, live healthy and have your supplements. your immune system is the one that really cares about you.
      making yourself healthy doesn't happen in a matter of days and taking a supplement doesn't really help if you just start taking it and a lot of Filipino doesn't have the luxury to buy a supplementary medicine to boost their immune system or to live a healthy life.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arielbit on July 23, 2020, 09:17:20 AM
      I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. the thing is tests takes time and results needs to be properly analyzed. they also can't just rely on the information given by others (even if it is very reliable). if they didn't made tests DOH is wasting precious opportunity to save lives.
      Time is of the essence. The number of average positive cases is not decreasing, even if they did some tests (presumably this month), they're not just wasting lives but time.

      'F as in falfak': PH gov't gets failing marks in COVID-19 response from these experts (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/22/20/f-as-in-falfak-ph-govt-gets-failing-marks-in-covid-19-response-from-these-experts)

      As per the article. We're up to being no.15 countries with a highest active cases and no.1 in ASEAN. Imagine that and it could be more worse...

      LOL.

      a lot of you still don't get it. the government don't care about you and what is the cutting edge and latest out there.

      whatever it is that will be going inside the country, they are the middle man and they will have their nice slice of the pie (people's money). the visible part is tax and the invisible part is corruption.

      the virus is not that deadly, that's why the government have time and priority for anti terror bill, to gain more..why is the junk that is inside the groceries are still in there that causes more deaths than COVID-19? because it is all about the gains. no one cares.


      I agree that it is not deadly compared to other viruses but the alarming part here is it has no vaccine, no medicine, severe symptoms, incomplete knowledge of the virus, etc.. the infection rate is also incredibly high and can travel easily from person to person which can easily reach old people and unhealthy. doesn't it alarm you that 1800+ already died in a matter of months here in the Philippines because of one virus? do you have statistics or stemate on how many people have died because of "junks" in a matter of months?

      eat healthy, live healthy and have your supplements. your immune system is the one that really cares about you.
      making yourself healthy doesn't happen in a matter of days and taking a supplement doesn't really help if you just start taking it and a lot of Filipino doesn't have the luxury to buy a supplementary medicine to boost their immune system or to live a healthy life.



      1800 in half a year...make it x10, 18,000 for a year ;)

      https://psa.gov.ph/vital-statistics/id/138794 (https://psa.gov.ph/vital-statistics/id/138794)

      total number of pre-wuhan virus respiratory deaths is over 100k a year lol
      https://i.postimg.cc/HLPf5H4p/d.jpg

      days? wuhan virus is all around the internet since January.

      If supplements is a luxury to you then you are fucked in this life in many ways, not just health. there are many ways to nourish your health cheaply, like growing your own herbs, or just stop taking in junks, a lot of people are just plain lazy and dumb.

      only the smart and fast are making their steps to gain in this fiasco. the government and the high profile prisoners while the average sheeple is busy studying medicine  :D LOL
       


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on July 23, 2020, 01:47:16 PM
      I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. the thing is tests takes time and results needs to be properly analyzed. they also can't just rely on the information given by others (even if it is very reliable). if they didn't made tests DOH is wasting precious opportunity to save lives.
      Time is of the essence. The number of average positive cases is not decreasing, even if they did some tests (presumably this month), they're not just wasting lives but time.

      'F as in falfak': PH gov't gets failing marks in COVID-19 response from these experts (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/22/20/f-as-in-falfak-ph-govt-gets-failing-marks-in-covid-19-response-from-these-experts)

      As per the article. We're up to being no.15 countries with a highest active cases and no.1 in ASEAN. Imagine that and it could be more worse...

      LOL.

      a lot of you still don't get it. the government don't care about you and what is the cutting edge and latest out there.

      whatever it is that will be going inside the country, they are the middle man and they will have their nice slice of the pie (people's money). the visible part is tax and the invisible part is corruption.

      the virus is not that deadly, that's why the government have time and priority for anti terror bill, to gain more..why is the junk that is inside the groceries are still in there that causes more deaths than COVID-19? because it is all about the gains. no one cares.


      I agree that it is not deadly compared to other viruses but the alarming part here is it has no vaccine, no medicine, severe symptoms, incomplete knowledge of the virus, etc.. the infection rate is also incredibly high and can travel easily from person to person which can easily reach old people and unhealthy. doesn't it alarm you that 1800+ already died in a matter of months here in the Philippines because of one virus? do you have statistics or stemate on how many people have died because of "junks" in a matter of months?

      eat healthy, live healthy and have your supplements. your immune system is the one that really cares about you.
      making yourself healthy doesn't happen in a matter of days and taking a supplement doesn't really help if you just start taking it and a lot of Filipino doesn't have the luxury to buy a supplementary medicine to boost their immune system or to live a healthy life.



      1800 in half a year...make it x10, 18,000 for a year ;)

      https://psa.gov.ph/vital-statistics/id/138794 (https://psa.gov.ph/vital-statistics/id/138794)

      total number of pre-wuhan virus respiratory deaths is over 100k a year lol
      -snip

      days? wuhan virus is all around the internet since January.

      If supplements is a luxury to you then you are fucked in this life in many ways, not just health. there are many ways to nourish your health cheaply, like growing your own herbs, or just stop taking in junks, a lot of people are just plain lazy and dumb.

      only the smart and fast are making their steps to gain in this fiasco. the government and the high profile prisoners while the average sheeple is busy studying medicine  :D LOL
       

      it is understandable that there are more diseases that are more deadly than COVID-19(as I stated previously). but the death chart per disease you presented is caused due to long exposure of poor health management, genetics, etc.. whereas covid-19 can pottentially kill you in a matter of weeks after exposure. also, some of those diseases affect Filipinos by millions. imagine COVID-19 infecting millions of people here in the Philippines where a lot of people have poor health especially on slums area and poor hospital standards with very limited resources.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arielbit on July 24, 2020, 05:46:50 AM
      I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. the thing is tests takes time and results needs to be properly analyzed. they also can't just rely on the information given by others (even if it is very reliable). if they didn't made tests DOH is wasting precious opportunity to save lives.
      Time is of the essence. The number of average positive cases is not decreasing, even if they did some tests (presumably this month), they're not just wasting lives but time.

      'F as in falfak': PH gov't gets failing marks in COVID-19 response from these experts (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/22/20/f-as-in-falfak-ph-govt-gets-failing-marks-in-covid-19-response-from-these-experts)

      As per the article. We're up to being no.15 countries with a highest active cases and no.1 in ASEAN. Imagine that and it could be more worse...

      LOL.

      a lot of you still don't get it. the government don't care about you and what is the cutting edge and latest out there.

      whatever it is that will be going inside the country, they are the middle man and they will have their nice slice of the pie (people's money). the visible part is tax and the invisible part is corruption.

      the virus is not that deadly, that's why the government have time and priority for anti terror bill, to gain more..why is the junk that is inside the groceries are still in there that causes more deaths than COVID-19? because it is all about the gains. no one cares.


      I agree that it is not deadly compared to other viruses but the alarming part here is it has no vaccine, no medicine, severe symptoms, incomplete knowledge of the virus, etc.. the infection rate is also incredibly high and can travel easily from person to person which can easily reach old people and unhealthy. doesn't it alarm you that 1800+ already died in a matter of months here in the Philippines because of one virus? do you have statistics or stemate on how many people have died because of "junks" in a matter of months?

      eat healthy, live healthy and have your supplements. your immune system is the one that really cares about you.
      making yourself healthy doesn't happen in a matter of days and taking a supplement doesn't really help if you just start taking it and a lot of Filipino doesn't have the luxury to buy a supplementary medicine to boost their immune system or to live a healthy life.



      1800 in half a year...make it x10, 18,000 for a year ;)

      https://psa.gov.ph/vital-statistics/id/138794 (https://psa.gov.ph/vital-statistics/id/138794)

      total number of pre-wuhan virus respiratory deaths is over 100k a year lol
      -snip

      days? wuhan virus is all around the internet since January.

      If supplements is a luxury to you then you are fucked in this life in many ways, not just health. there are many ways to nourish your health cheaply, like growing your own herbs, or just stop taking in junks, a lot of people are just plain lazy and dumb.

      only the smart and fast are making their steps to gain in this fiasco. the government and the high profile prisoners while the average sheeple is busy studying medicine  :D LOL
       

      it is understandable that there are more diseases that are more deadly than COVID-19(as I stated previously). but the death chart per disease you presented is caused due to long exposure of poor health management, genetics, etc.. whereas covid-19 can pottentially kill you in a matter of weeks after exposure. also, some of those diseases affect Filipinos by millions. imagine COVID-19 infecting millions of people here in the Philippines where a lot of people have poor health especially on slums area and poor hospital standards with very limited resources.

      ever heard of herd immunity? the government is going to that route, they are not just talking about it because it shows that they made the wrong move of shutting down the economy, closing businesses and losing jobs.

      what do you think about "balik probinsya"? if all the provinces are 0 cases and manila still has a few, manila will be closed for a year or two? LOL - not gonna happen, same with provinces and same with countries.

      and the government proceeded to anti terror and now vacine$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and debt$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$   LOL

      first to information first to gain.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on July 24, 2020, 10:19:19 AM
      and the government proceeded to anti terror and now vacine$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and debt$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 
      Naalala ko tuloy dito yung napanood ko sa NAS Daily, yung about sa utangat paunti unting pananakop ng China. Di malabong mangyari satin ang ganun, lalo na ngayon, baka sa susunod parte n tayo ng America, bilang collateral sa utang na hindi na mabayaran.

      "Bayang inutang
      'di pa nababayaran
      sa Mandaluyong
      doon ikukulong."

      Geez, Dahil sa Pandemiya lulubog na talaga ang eatado ng Pilipinas.

      As for the Lockdowns, dapat Total Lockdown ung may patuloy na cases, para ng sa ganun hindi na makahawa. Tulad dito samin sa Binangonan umabot na ng 100+ pero tila mangmang pa rin ang Mayor. Dapat sa mga gantong Pulitiko pinabababa agad sa pwesto.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Peanutswar on July 25, 2020, 01:16:17 PM

      "Bayang inutang
      'di pa nababayaran
      sa Mandaluyong
      doon ikukulong."


      Tila ba naging totoo ang mga katuwaan lamang ng mga kabataan sa kantang ito madalas ko ito naririnig dati, tambak nadin ang ating utang sa ibang bansa. Nag tataka lang ako sa dami ng inutang ng bansa natin nakukulangan pa din tayo ng mga gamit tungo sa pag laban sa covid at mas inuuna pa na ng mga nasa itaas ang kung ano-anong batas na hindi kailangan, isa na dito ay nais padin nilang ipag patuloy ang klase sa darating na agosto.


      As for the Lockdowns, dapat Total Lockdown ung may patuloy na cases, para ng sa ganun hindi na makahawa. Tulad dito samin sa Binangonan umabot na ng 100+ pero tila mangmang pa rin ang Mayor. Dapat sa mga gantong Pulitiko pinabababa agad sa pwesto.

      Naalala ko sa isang balita na isang government official ang bumaba sa kaniyang pwesto dahil hindi na niya nakakayanan ang problema ng kanilang lugar, tila sa ating bansa kahit mali na i-pagtatanggol pa at di pa bumaba sa pwesto.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bitkoyns on July 26, 2020, 06:18:51 AM
      and the government proceeded to anti terror and now vacine$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and debt$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 
      Naalala ko tuloy dito yung napanood ko sa NAS Daily, yung about sa utangat paunti unting pananakop ng China. Di malabong mangyari satin ang ganun, lalo na ngayon, baka sa susunod parte n tayo ng America, bilang collateral sa utang na hindi na mabayaran.

      "Bayang inutang
      'di pa nababayaran
      sa Mandaluyong
      doon ikukulong."

      Geez, Dahil sa Pandemiya lulubog na talaga ang eatado ng Pilipinas.

      As for the Lockdowns, dapat Total Lockdown ung may patuloy na cases, para ng sa ganun hindi na makahawa. Tulad dito samin sa Binangonan umabot na ng 100+ pero tila mangmang pa rin ang Mayor. Dapat sa mga gantong Pulitiko pinabababa agad sa pwesto.

      nakakalungkot lang na talagang sinsabi ng mga nakakarami e INCOMPETENT ang gobyerno, madaming ginagawang violations ang mga nakaupo pero wala lang, isa pa lumolobo ang kaso pero wala lang aksyong ginagawa, patuloy ang pagluwag ang ginagawa ng gobyerno where in fact ang covid nandyan pa din at hindi nawawala pero patuloy na lumuluwag yung guideliness. Nakakaawa ang pilipinas, imbis na mag focus para maflatten yung curve ang trinatrabaho ngayon is yung charter change na yan. Nakakapanlumo lang.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on July 26, 2020, 12:50:29 PM
      and the government proceeded to anti terror and now vacine$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and debt$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 
      Naalala ko tuloy dito yung napanood ko sa NAS Daily, yung about sa utangat paunti unting pananakop ng China. Di malabong mangyari satin ang ganun, lalo na ngayon, baka sa susunod parte n tayo ng America, bilang collateral sa utang na hindi na mabayaran.

      "Bayang inutang
      'di pa nababayaran
      sa Mandaluyong
      doon ikukulong."

      Geez, Dahil sa Pandemiya lulubog na talaga ang eatado ng Pilipinas.

      As for the Lockdowns, dapat Total Lockdown ung may patuloy na cases, para ng sa ganun hindi na makahawa. Tulad dito samin sa Binangonan umabot na ng 100+ pero tila mangmang pa rin ang Mayor. Dapat sa mga gantong Pulitiko pinabababa agad sa pwesto.
      Mabuti sana kung nakikita natin kung saan napupunta at yung magandang kinakalabasan ng mga inutang ng gobyerno. Kasi sa laki ba naman ng utang, hindi malabong magpa under tayo sa ibang mga bansa.



      Sa usapang COVID naman...
      https://i.imgur.com/yCqxoVF.png

      Makikita natin na napakarami parin ng active cases sa bansa, unlike sa ibang bansa na kahit madami silang recorded cases ay kakaunti nalang ang active cases tulad ng bansang Indonesia. Imbis na bumagal at bumaba ang pag spread ng virus dahil na din sa ilang buwan na ECQ, parang wala lang rin itong epekto dahil napunta na tayo sa GCQ ngunit mas lalo lang lumalala ang pagkalat ng virus.






      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on July 26, 2020, 12:55:42 PM
      Sa tingin ninyo aabot tayo ng 80,000 confirmed cases pagtapos ng buwan na ito? and parang hindi rin kapani-paniwala na we flattened the curve dahil hanggang ngayon almost 1,000-2,000+ a day lagi ang na add sa confirmed cases.
      Sa usapang COVID naman...
      https://i.imgur.com/yCqxoVF.png

      Makikita natin na napakarami parin ng active cases sa bansa, unlike sa ibang bansa na kahit madami silang recorded cases ay kakaunti nalang ang active cases tulad ng bansang Indonesia. Imbis na bumagal at bumaba ang pag spread ng virus dahil na din sa ilang buwan na ECQ, parang wala lang rin itong epekto dahil napunta na tayo sa GCQ ngunit mas lalo lang lumalala ang pagkalat ng virus.

      Hindi nga mali 'yong akala natin. Yeah, @plvbob0070 we surpassed 80k mark na sa mga confirmed cases.

      Here's 'yong mga area na may matataas na case:
      Quote
      The five provinces with the highest number of new cases were Metro Manila with 1,345, Cebu with 304, Laguna with 109, Negros Occidental with 66, and Rizal with 40.
      Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/748532/philippines-logs-over-2-000-covid-19-cases-for-4th-straight-day/story/


      If this still continues -- 2,000 daily confirmed cases. I'm afraid, we will reached 100k mark in no time   :-[, sa tingin ko mga first week of August. Nakakapangamba kasi 'yong isang area dito sa may amin naglockdown ulit dahil sa spike nung mga nag-positive. But then again, 'yong government natin... still have no clear plan para ma-lessen na 'to.  

      And as usual, stay safe y'all.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Peanutswar on July 26, 2020, 02:30:07 PM

      If this still continues -- 2,000 daily confirmed cases. I'm afraid, we will reached 100k mark in no time   :-[, sa tingin ko mga first week of August. Nakakapangamba kasi 'yong isang area dito sa may amin naglockdown ulit dahil sa spike nung mga nag-positive. But then again, 'yong government natin... still have no clear plan para ma-lessen na 'to.  


      By this increase ng number of infected talagang nakaka pangamba dahil biglaan ang pag lobo ng mga datos kung nung una ay natuwa sila dahil mali ang prediction na 40k mark right now ay nasa 80k mark na tayo immediately and at this moment nag babalak pa sila na i-resume ang klase kung saan napaka prone nila tila ba inalay nila sa pandemyang ito ang mga kinabukasan sana ng bayan, I hope they will make an action as soon as possible tila ba nakikipag kumpitensiya sa ibang bansa sa paramihan ng infected. Sana naman may good news na for the coming months about dito sa pandemic.

      Keep safe everyone.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Vaculin on July 27, 2020, 09:42:59 AM

      If this still continues -- 2,000 daily confirmed cases. I'm afraid, we will reached 100k mark in no time   :-[, sa tingin ko mga first week of August. Nakakapangamba kasi 'yong isang area dito sa may amin naglockdown ulit dahil sa spike nung mga nag-positive. But then again, 'yong government natin... still have no clear plan para ma-lessen na 'to.  


      By this increase ng number of infected talagang nakaka pangamba dahil biglaan ang pag lobo ng mga datos kung nung una ay natuwa sila dahil mali ang prediction na 40k mark right now ay nasa 80k mark na tayo immediately and at this moment nag babalak pa sila na i-resume ang klase kung saan napaka prone nila tila ba inalay nila sa pandemyang ito ang mga kinabukasan sana ng bayan, I hope they will make an action as soon as possible tila ba nakikipag kumpitensiya sa ibang bansa sa paramihan ng infected. Sana naman may good news na for the coming months about dito sa pandemic.

      Keep safe everyone.

      Sana nga di nila i resume ang klase, hindi naman part ng ekonomiya natin ang mga public schools, yung i resume nila yung mga businesses na kumikita talaga para makatulong kahit papaano, laki ng ng utang natin both local and abroad, kaya need natin ng malaking collection.

      Malapit na nating malampasan ang china, nakakabahala nga pero kung titingnan mo ibang bansa, mukhang normal lang itong pang increase.

      Base sa data na makikita dito, di pa naman tayo sa top 10, so kaya natin to.
      https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: serjent05 on July 28, 2020, 09:15:22 AM

      If this still continues -- 2,000 daily confirmed cases. I'm afraid, we will reached 100k mark in no time   :-[, sa tingin ko mga first week of August. Nakakapangamba kasi 'yong isang area dito sa may amin naglockdown ulit dahil sa spike nung mga nag-positive. But then again, 'yong government natin... still have no clear plan para ma-lessen na 'to.  


      By this increase ng number of infected talagang nakaka pangamba dahil biglaan ang pag lobo ng mga datos kung nung una ay natuwa sila dahil mali ang prediction na 40k mark right now ay nasa 80k mark na tayo immediately and at this moment nag babalak pa sila na i-resume ang klase kung saan napaka prone nila tila ba inalay nila sa pandemyang ito ang mga kinabukasan sana ng bayan, I hope they will make an action as soon as possible tila ba nakikipag kumpitensiya sa ibang bansa sa paramihan ng infected. Sana naman may good news na for the coming months about dito sa pandemic.

      Keep safe everyone.

      Sana nga di nila i resume ang klase, hindi naman part ng ekonomiya natin ang mga public schools, yung i resume nila yung mga businesses na kumikita talaga para makatulong kahit papaano, laki ng ng utang natin both local and abroad, kaya need natin ng malaking collection.

      Malapit na nating malampasan ang china, nakakabahala nga pero kung titingnan mo ibang bansa, mukhang normal lang itong pang increase.

      Base sa data na makikita dito, di pa naman tayo sa top 10, so kaya natin to.
      https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

      Mahirap talaga ang kalagayan ng gobyerno natin at lalo tayong malulubog sa utang dahil walang pinagkakakitaan ang gobyerno natin dahil lahat ng businesses eh pinagbebenta para maging pribado at aasa na lang sa tax na lagi namang nadadaya o di kaya ay nakukurakot.

      Hindi ko lang lubos maisip bakit pinagpipilitan ng DepEd na ipush ang schooling ng mga bata eh pwede namang idelay iyan dahil di naman siya necessity para magsurvive sa pang-araw araw, dagdag gastos pa sa magulang.  Then wala rin silang malinaw na plano para maiwasan ang physical contacts during the enrollment at hindi rin pulido ang online learning na plan nila.  Dapat ipagpaliban na lang muna nila ito at wag ng bigyan ng problema ang mga magulang ng bata sa mga gastusin sa gadget at load para sa internet.

      About the previous lockdown, hilaw naman ang naging paglockdown nila, maraming butas at halos hindi nasusunod ang mga pasocial distancing - social distancing nila kapag bumuhos na ang dami ng tao sa isang lugar.  Then, ung pag shift nila from ECQ to MECQ to GCQ ay marami pa ring butas lalo na ang pagtravel ng tao from one place to another.  Just check nyo ang news, daming stranded na hindi na nasusunod ang social distancing.  Just imagine kung ang isa dun eh positive then nagkahawaan at nakapagtravel dun sa pupuntahan nila, eh di nadala nila yung virus dun sa lugar na dapat ay wala sanang case.

      Karamihan sa mga cases sa ibang lugar eh nagmumula sa lugar kung saan mataas ang bilang ng nagpopositibo.  Dapat talaga ang pagtravel from one point to another point ang binabantayan nila ng husto, at ginagawan ng tamang programa para maisolate ang mga lugar na may mataas na cases ng Covid 19 at masiguradong hindi carrier ang bibiyahe sa kani-kanilang probinsya.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on July 30, 2020, 03:35:57 PM
      Few hours ago, naglabas  ang DOH ng latest information tungkol sa COVID cases sa bansa. Almost 4,000 ang reported new cases ngayong araw, at mas lalo itong nakakabahala. Ngunit mas kapansin pansin yung 38,000+ na new recoveries. Sa unang tingin, nakakatuwa na makita ang ganito karaming recoveries. Pero ang sabi, inempliment nila ang "mass recovery" which is sinama sa recovery ang mga asymptomatic at mild cases.

      Hindi ko maintindihan bakit kailangan isama sila sa recovies kung hindi naman talaga sila fullly recovered. Hindi ba parang mas makakapag pagulo lang ito sa actually active cases na meron tayo? Imbis na mass recovery, bakit hindi maimplement ang mass testing.

      https://i.postimg.cc/nrjmsYcT/image.png

      Source:
      Code:
      https://twitter.com/PhilstarNews/status/1288798072449859584


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on July 31, 2020, 02:38:02 AM
      Ngunit mas kapansin pansin yung 38,000+ na new recoveries. Sa unang tingin, nakakatuwa na makita ang ganito karaming recoveries. Pero ang sabi, inempliment nila ang "mass recovery" which is sinama sa recovery ang mga asymptomatic at mild cases.

      Hindi ko maintindihan bakit kailangan isama sila sa recovies kung hindi naman talaga sila fullly recovered. Hindi ba parang mas makakapag pagulo lang ito sa actually active cases na meron tayo? Imbis na mass recovery, bakit hindi maimplement ang mass testing.

      Ang dami talaga maloloko sa headline kapag hindi nila binasa 'yong buong article. Pansin ko rin kanina, and upon checking 'yong comment section ni isa wala akong nakita nag-address doon sa "re-tagging" as recovered na ginawa ng DOH sa mga may mild at asymptomatic cases, ni hindi pa naman fully recovered  :(. Not tryin' to be a negative na lang sa lahat, pero parang minamadali nila e.

      Take a look at this:
      Quote
      "We expect that someone with mild symptoms will recover within a week to 10 days,"

      "If you're experiencing mild illness, you should expect the recovery process to be similar to other significant respiratory viral infections, such as the flu."
      Source: https://www.houstonmethodist.org/blog/articles/2020/apr/recovering-from-coronavirus-what-to-expect-during-and-after-your-recovery/


      See? diba may mga bibilangin pang mga araw, and of course a bit of test if 'di na talaga sila carrier. And now here comes DOH tagging mild - asymptomatic cases as recovered, even though they aren't allowed to go outside yet, and mga naka isolate pa (quarantine). Ni hindi pa nga accurate 'yong bilang nung mga mayroong kaso sa 'tin, kasi wala pa rin mass testing, and now lalaruin pa nila 'yong number of recoveries. Damn, what's even real sa mga data natin ngayon?


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: samputin on July 31, 2020, 02:42:28 AM
      Few hours ago, naglabas  ang DOH ng latest information tungkol sa COVID cases sa bansa. Almost 4,000 ang reported new cases ngayong araw, at mas lalo itong nakakabahala. Ngunit mas kapansin pansin yung 38,000+ na new recoveries. Sa unang tingin, nakakatuwa na makita ang ganito karaming recoveries. Pero ang sabi, inempliment nila ang "mass recovery" which is sinama sa recovery ang mga asymptomatic at mild cases.

      Hindi ko maintindihan bakit kailangan isama sila sa recovies kung hindi naman talaga sila fullly recovered. Hindi ba parang mas makakapag pagulo lang ito sa actually active cases na meron tayo? Imbis na mass recovery, bakit hindi maimplement ang mass testing.

      <...>
      Yun nga. Nakakabigla na makitang mahigit 38k+ ang mga recovered in a day. They did that for what, exactly? Okay s'ya at some point dahil ang dami nang recoveries but knowing that they're just mild cases and asymptomatic is quite bothering.

      I'm as confused as you are, kabayan. If those mild cases and asymptomatic are considered as recovered, are they still in the hospital or still in quarantine or still being treated? I hope yes 'cause if not, and they'd be released without being considered as fully recovered, then mas nakakatakot yun para sa mga taong pilit na nagi-ingat sa virus na 'to.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on July 31, 2020, 05:36:38 PM
      Few hours ago, naglabas  ang DOH ng latest information tungkol sa COVID cases sa bansa. Almost 4,000 ang reported new cases ngayong araw, at mas lalo itong nakakabahala. Ngunit mas kapansin pansin yung 38,000+ na new recoveries. Sa unang tingin, nakakatuwa na makita ang ganito karaming recoveries. Pero ang sabi, inempliment nila ang "mass recovery" which is sinama sa recovery ang mga asymptomatic at mild cases.

      Hindi ko maintindihan bakit kailangan isama sila sa recovies kung hindi naman talaga sila fullly recovered. Hindi ba parang mas makakapag pagulo lang ito sa actually active cases na meron tayo? Imbis na mass recovery, bakit hindi maimplement ang mass testing.

      <...>
      Yun nga. Nakakabigla na makitang mahigit 38k+ ang mga recovered in a day. They did that for what, exactly? Okay s'ya at some point dahil ang dami nang recoveries but knowing that they're just mild cases and asymptomatic is quite bothering.

      I'm as confused as you are, kabayan. If those mild cases and asymptomatic are considered as recovered, are they still in the hospital or still in quarantine or still being treated? I hope yes 'cause if not, and they'd be released without being considered as fully recovered, then mas nakakatakot yun para sa mga taong pilit na nagi-ingat sa virus na 'to.
      Yan din ang iniisip ko eh. Pero upon checking yung thread sa twitter, nakita ko itong image mula sa isang reply. At ayon dito, after nila matapos ng mga mild at asymptomatic yung 14-days quarantine and isolation sa hotels ay considered na sila as recovered.

      https://i.postimg.cc/4xP0HBsR/image.png

      Ayon pa sa mga replies, hindi daw ata tinetest kung positive parin or hindi na before considering them as recovered. Kasi daw after ilang days daw ay mababa na yung chance na makainfect or makahawa pa ng virus sa iba. Hindi ako sure kung tama ba, pero eto yung nababasa ko sa thread sa twitter. Kung titignan parang ang risky ng ganitong pag implement kasi hindi naman sure kung safe na ba talaga itong mga mild at asymptomatic patients.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on July 31, 2020, 06:57:41 PM
      Ngunit mas kapansin pansin yung 38,000+ na new recoveries.
      Nakakadismaya na talaga yung mga nasa katungkulan ngayon, 38,000 new recoveries in a day? Pag may naniwala dyan ewan ko lang, may nag mala-naruto kagebunshin yata sa hospital, sa gitna ng krisis lalong dumadmi ang nagtitiis at naghihinagpis dahil sa maling pagbigkis.
      lalo na yung nga nasa IATF, napakatatalino,...nakakaurat, nakakayamot na talaga,mga utak Goldfish.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on August 01, 2020, 03:57:19 AM
      Ngunit mas kapansin pansin yung 38,000+ na new recoveries.
      Nakakadismaya na talaga yung mga nasa katungkulan ngayon, 38,000 new recoveries in a day?

      Apparently, it was because of late adoptation nila nung guidelines ni WHO.

      Which is ito: detail/criteria-for-releasing-covid-19-patients-from-isolation (https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/criteria-for-releasing-covid-19-patients-from-isolation)

      It was published last May 27 pa. And base rin sa mga nababasa kong comment, 'yong mga foreign countries, kaya mabilis rin 'yong count ng recoveries nila, dahil 'yon na 'yong finafollow nila na guidelines after ma-published. So, turns out na, mas mahigpit pa DOH sa mga ganitong bagay.

      TL;DR lang nung laman nung article. It indicates lang, na hindi na highly contagious 'yong mga patients na (which they say resolved na 'yong case after reporting nung mga symptoms nila) so-called recovered.

      Not tryin' to side with DOH or what  ;D. Pero maganda lang rin na malaman side nila, why they came-up into this. And siguro, due to limited materials natin, and overloaded na hospitals and quarantine facilities, mapipilitan na talaga. Yep, risky inamin na rin naman ng WHO 'yon doon sa article.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on August 01, 2020, 04:41:12 AM
      Ngunit mas kapansin pansin yung 38,000+ na new recoveries.
      Nakakadismaya na talaga yung mga nasa katungkulan ngayon, 38,000 new recoveries in a day?

      Apparently, it was because of late adoptation nila nung guidelines ni WHO.

      Which is ito: detail/criteria-for-releasing-covid-19-patients-from-isolation (https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/criteria-for-releasing-covid-19-patients-from-isolation)

      It was published last May 27 pa. And base rin sa mga nababasa kong comment, 'yong mga foreign countries, kaya mabilis rin 'yong count ng recoveries nila, dahil 'yon na 'yong finafollow nila na guidelines after ma-published. So, turns out na, mas mahigpit pa DOH sa mga ganitong bagay.

      TL;DR lang nung laman nung article. It indicates lang, na hindi na highly contagious 'yong mga patients na (which they say resolved na 'yong case after reporting nung mga symptoms nila) so-called recovered.

      Not tryin' to side with DOH or what  ;D. Pero maganda lang rin na malaman side nila, why they came-up into this. And siguro, due to limited materials natin, and overloaded na hospitals and quarantine facilities, mapipilitan na talaga. Yep, risky inamin na rin naman ng WHO 'yon doon sa article.

      good to know, na gulat din ako nung nag labas sila ng 38k recoveries in one day pero meron na rin naman ako suspetsya nung nilabas nila yun kasi may na basa ako na FB post na sa middle east(nakalimutan ko ung bansa) nirerelease na nila at considered na recovered yung mga patient na nakatapos ng 14day isolation or kung ano pa man ang tawag nila dun.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bisdak40 on August 01, 2020, 08:36:44 AM
      Apparently, it was because of late adoptation nila nung guidelines ni WHO.

      Which is ito: detail/criteria-for-releasing-covid-19-patients-from-isolation (https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/criteria-for-releasing-covid-19-patients-from-isolation)

      It was published last May 27 pa. And base rin sa mga nababasa kong comment, 'yong mga foreign countries, kaya mabilis rin 'yong count ng recoveries nila, dahil 'yon na 'yong finafollow nila na guidelines after ma-published. So, turns out na, mas mahigpit pa DOH sa mga ganitong bagay.

      TL;DR lang nung laman nung article. It indicates lang, na hindi na highly contagious 'yong mga patients na (which they say resolved na 'yong case after reporting nung mga symptoms nila) so-called recovered.

      Not tryin' to side with DOH or what  ;D. Pero maganda lang rin na malaman side nila, why they came-up into this. And siguro, due to limited materials natin, and overloaded na hospitals and quarantine facilities, mapipilitan na talaga. Yep, risky inamin na rin naman ng WHO 'yon doon sa article.

      Ang nakakalungkot lang nito ay imbis na tulungan ay sobrang binatikos ng ibang politiko ang DOH na para bang sila na lang ang may alam. Bakit kaya hindi nila hinayaan munang magpaliwag ang kalihim ng DOH bago batikosin sa social media. Para sa akin, sang-ayon ako sa bagong protocol na inilabas ng DOH para ideklara na recovered na yong patien kahit na wala ng test, makakatipid pa ito sa testing kit at magagamit ito sa ibang nangangailangan. Noong una, kailangan pa ng dalawang negative swab test result para i-declare ka na recovered which is very expensive on the government's side.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: iTradeChips on August 01, 2020, 03:27:22 PM
      and the government proceeded to anti terror and now vacine$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and debt$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 
      Naalala ko tuloy dito yung napanood ko sa NAS Daily, yung about sa utangat paunti unting pananakop ng China. Di malabong mangyari satin ang ganun, lalo na ngayon, baka sa susunod parte n tayo ng America, bilang collateral sa utang na hindi na mabayaran.

      "Bayang inutang
      'di pa nababayaran
      sa Mandaluyong
      doon ikukulong."

      Geez, Dahil sa Pandemiya lulubog na talaga ang eatado ng Pilipinas.

      As for the Lockdowns, dapat Total Lockdown ung may patuloy na cases, para ng sa ganun hindi na makahawa. Tulad dito samin sa Binangonan umabot na ng 100+ pero tila mangmang pa rin ang Mayor. Dapat sa mga gantong Pulitiko pinabababa agad sa pwesto.

      nakakalungkot lang na talagang sinsabi ng mga nakakarami e INCOMPETENT ang gobyerno, madaming ginagawang violations ang mga nakaupo pero wala lang, isa pa lumolobo ang kaso pero wala lang aksyong ginagawa, patuloy ang pagluwag ang ginagawa ng gobyerno where in fact ang covid nandyan pa din at hindi nawawala pero patuloy na lumuluwag yung guideliness. Nakakaawa ang pilipinas, imbis na mag focus para maflatten yung curve ang trinatrabaho ngayon is yung charter change na yan. Nakakapanlumo lang.

      Kahit na may Covid 19 pandemic, may mga pressing issues pa rin na dapat gampanan ang mga opisyales ng gobyerno, hindi mo pwede ilaan lang lahat sa pagtutok sa Covid tapos yung ibang aspeto ng mandatong binigay ng taum bayan para gampanan nila ang tungkuling magkaroon ng functioning government at functioning economy eh babalewalain nalang.

      Yung mga nagsasabi na "nakakarami" na incompetent ang gobyerno, saan mo nakuha ang datos na nagsasabi na nakakarami sa tao ay nagsasabi na incompetent ang gobyerno? SWS survey ba or sa kung saang diyaryo ng oposisyon mo nabasa yan? Gusto natin na masugpo ang Covid, OO TAYO DIYAN, pero mamili ka kung saan ka papanig sa kalusugan ba o sa ekonomiya. Pag naghigpit ang gobyerno, reklamo kayo wala kayo kalayaan. Pero pag niluwagan na at dumami ang nagkasakit, sisisihin parin sa gubyerno bakit nila niluwagan. Parang eng eng diba? Ang dapat na tanungin natin sa mga sarili natin, saan ba tayo lulugar, sagipin ang ekonomiya o magsagip ng mas maraming buhay sa pamamagitan ng lockdown?


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on August 01, 2020, 03:45:40 PM
      ...
      May magandang Solusyon naman kasi dyan, para lahat nakikinabang. Pwede tayong maglimit pero hindi sobra, eto bigyan ko kayo halimbawa:
      -Lockdown :
      +Bawal Lumabas, Isang Quarantine Pass Bawat Pamilya/Bahay
      +Negosyo, Payagan ang maliliit o malalaki na Establisyimyento Pero limitadog empleyado (Shifting Schedules para sa mga Empleyado para lahat may sahod kahit kaunti)
      +Trabaho, Limitadong Empleyado
      +Big Companies, Form a Stable Team/Work Force
      +Transportasyon, Shifting Schedules for Public Transpo, Private Vehicles - No Quarantine Pass No Travel.
      +CheckPoints very Street
      +Tourism- Pinoy lang Pwede Pumasok at Foreigner lang Pwede Lumabas ng bansa.
      +Extended Grace Periods on Bills

      -OA ang mga Pinoy, kaya hnd uubra ang wag lalabas dahil magrereklamo yan,... pero kung bibigyan mo yan ng kaunting luwag kahit papaano may solusyon sa parehong krisis; kalusigan at ekonomiya.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on August 02, 2020, 01:09:34 PM
      Noong July 30,2020 ay nasa 89,000+ ang mga confirmed cases sa ating bansa and ngayon ay pumalo na tayo sa 103,000+. Lagpas 5,000+ ang nadagdag ngayon araw and tila nag x2 yung dating confirmed cases and parang bago matapos ang buwan na ito siguro maaring umabot ang confirmed cases sa 130,000-140,000 kung patuloy na 4 digits ang madadagdag sa confirmed cases kada araw. Nakakabahala yung ganito karaming new cases sa isang araw habang kakaunti lang ang naitalang recoveries. Kaya sana patuloy ding tumaas ang bilang ng mga recoveries. Stay safe mga kabayan.

      https://i.postimg.cc/xCPM6RGy/image.png


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on August 02, 2020, 02:32:22 PM
      Ang nakakalungkot lang nito ay imbis na tulungan ay sobrang binatikos ng ibang politiko ang DOH na para bang sila na lang ang may alam. Bakit kaya hindi nila hinayaan munang magpaliwag ang kalihim ng DOH bago batikosin sa social media. Para sa akin, sang-ayon ako sa bagong protocol na inilabas ng DOH para ideklara na recovered na yong patien kahit na wala ng test, makakatipid pa ito sa testing kit at magagamit ito sa ibang nangangailangan. Noong una, kailangan pa ng dalawang negative swab test result para i-declare ka na recovered which is very expensive on the government's side.

      Government pa natin? Ganiyan naman lagi, they would always make something na magbe-benefit sa appearance nila  :-\. Anyway, same thing with me, kahit naman kasi anong option ang ilatag nila, 'di na mawawala 'yong risk diyan, it is just that we're running out of space, and materials na rin. And if by guidelines ng WHO suggests na 'di na highly contagious 'yong dadaan sa process ng care path nila then good na rin siguro 'yon, although 'di naman nila explicitly sinabi na recovered  ;D. Besides, pinagaralan rin naman nila nang maigi 'yan bago i-publish.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: pallang on August 11, 2020, 10:24:21 AM
      and the government proceeded to anti terror and now vacine$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and debt$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 
      Naalala ko tuloy dito yung napanood ko sa NAS Daily, yung about sa utangat paunti unting pananakop ng China. Di malabong mangyari satin ang ganun, lalo na ngayon, baka sa susunod parte n tayo ng America, bilang collateral sa utang na hindi na mabayaran.

      "Bayang inutang
      'di pa nababayaran
      sa Mandaluyong
      doon ikukulong."

      Geez, Dahil sa Pandemiya lulubog na talaga ang eatado ng Pilipinas.

      As for the Lockdowns, dapat Total Lockdown ung may patuloy na cases, para ng sa ganun hindi na makahawa. Tulad dito samin sa Binangonan umabot na ng 100+ pero tila mangmang pa rin ang Mayor. Dapat sa mga gantong Pulitiko pinabababa agad sa pwesto.

      nakakalungkot lang na talagang sinsabi ng mga nakakarami e INCOMPETENT ang gobyerno, madaming ginagawang violations ang mga nakaupo pero wala lang, isa pa lumolobo ang kaso pero wala lang aksyong ginagawa, patuloy ang pagluwag ang ginagawa ng gobyerno where in fact ang covid nandyan pa din at hindi nawawala pero patuloy na lumuluwag yung guideliness. Nakakaawa ang pilipinas, imbis na mag focus para maflatten yung curve ang trinatrabaho ngayon is yung charter change na yan. Nakakapanlumo lang.
      Mas inuna pa nila busugin ang mga bulsa nila kesa tulungan ung kapwa nila pilipino na nagpapakahirap n iwasan ung covid. Mahirap ng alisin ung gamitong kalakaran sa gobyerno natin, sna ung susunod n presidente maiayos n nya ung bansa at makabayad n din tayo sa mga utang natin.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on August 11, 2020, 04:19:35 PM
      Recent news lang, I saw from ABS-CBN news page:
      Quote
      Russia has developed 'first' coronavirus vaccine: Putin
      Source: https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/08/11/20/russia-has-developed-first-coronavirus-vaccine-putin

      Yep, good news somehow. But there's more to it pa, kung babasahin maigi kasi parang ang bilis lang. Kamakailan ko lang yata sinabi 'yong potential vaccine nila dito, and now my announcement na sila.

      So, apparently, 'di pa nag-a-undergo ng Phase 3 'tong vaccine nila or base sa mga nababasa ko is mag-i-start na rin naman sila nauna lang raw i-"register". And take note, it wasn't approved by WHO yet, it was all about their government. Not getting on their bad side, but bear in mind may mga incident na before from several vaccines na nagdulot ng side effect (not just a normal one though). But then again, yep... 'yong pag-de-develop nito was always been associated naman na sa risk, to begin with. Pero h'wag naman sana maging political interest 'to  ;D. Marami rin kasi nagdududang health experts rito dahil nga ang bilis.

      Don't get the wrong idea ah. Registered lang, and 'di pa pwede i-release sa market. Try to read this reply (https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/i7o1yl/putin_announces_the_first_vaccine_has_been/g132x77?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) para mas malinaw sa inyo lahat.

      Anyway, if everything went well sa side ng Russia. Looks like makararating sa Pinas 'tong product nila ng libre.
      According dito:
      Quote
      Russia may be giving the Philippines its vaccines against COVID-19 for free, President Rodrigo Duterte said on Monday.
      Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/750696/duterte-says-russia-may-give-philippines-covid-19-vaccines-for-free/story/

      So, sa ngayon, waiting game pa rin tayo. Pero atleast we're witnessing a progress na. We just hope na lang for their success at nang ma-i-release na 'to sa market. Same goes with non-russian vaccines, out there.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Edraket31 on August 11, 2020, 04:30:50 PM
      Ang hindi ko lang maunawaan sa bansa natin bakit hindi nila i try yung pabunan vaccine, wala naman mawawala kung subukan,.ibang bansa pa ang tumangkilik ng vaccine na dapat ay para sa mga kababayan natin.,anong mta opinion nyo guys??


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on August 12, 2020, 05:37:11 PM
      -snip

      any update if you got your travel pass? there are rumours/talks about the government extending the MECQ since the infection rate per day hasn't come down since they implemented the MECQ a week ago.

      Hay nako.

      Hindi ako masaya.
      I share the same sentiment

      Ang hindi ko lang maunawaan sa bansa natin bakit hindi nila i try yung pabunan vaccine, wala naman mawawala kung subukan,.ibang bansa pa ang tumangkilik ng vaccine na dapat ay para sa mga kababayan natin.,anong mta opinion nyo guys??
      it's probably because it is still in clinical trial and (in my own opinion base on the response I see on the social media) maybe because of political views.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Edraket31 on August 13, 2020, 12:41:03 PM

      Ang hindi ko lang maunawaan sa bansa natin bakit hindi nila i try yung pabunan vaccine, wala naman mawawala kung subukan,.ibang bansa pa ang tumangkilik ng vaccine na dapat ay para sa mga kababayan natin.,anong mta opinion nyo guys??
      it's probably because it is still in clinical trial and (in my own opinion base on the response I see on the social media) maybe because of political views.

      [/quote]

      trial pa rin! kapag lumobo ng 200k ang positive saka lang maaalarma, pwede naman mag trial sa isang tao na positive na decided na gumamit ng nasabing vaccine, then kung mapatunayan na walang kayang gawin ang vacinne saka disregard, ibang bansa pa nakikinabang sa gamot na dapat ay dito nagagamit sa atin


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on August 16, 2020, 02:00:43 PM
      nakita nyo na ba yung bagong ulat ng DOH 40k na gumaling sa covid-19? (here's the link to an article if you are interested https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1112441)

      reading through the article I wish DOH could elaborate more about this new "40k" new recoveries instead of saying that 39K+ of the new recoveries was "time-based" recoveries.

      if anyone has seen a more detailed report about I'd appreciate if you shared the source.


      trial pa rin! kapag lumobo ng 200k ang positive saka lang maaalarma, pwede naman mag trial sa isang tao na positive na decided na gumamit ng nasabing vaccine, then kung mapatunayan na walang kayang gawin ang vacinne saka disregard, ibang bansa pa nakikinabang sa gamot na dapat ay dito nagagamit sa atin

      the vaccine is to prevent someone from getting infected, I am not sure what effect the vaccine would have to those who are already infected by the virus.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on August 17, 2020, 06:48:30 AM
      nakita nyo na ba yung bagong ulat ng DOH 40k na gumaling sa covid-19? (here's the link to an article if you are interested https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1112441)

      reading through the article I wish DOH could elaborate more about this new "40k" new recoveries instead of saying that 39K+ of the new recoveries was "time-based" recoveries.

      if anyone has seen a more detailed report about I'd appreciate if you shared the source.

      Itong 40k recoveries ay parang nung kagaya lang din dati kung saan nag recover din sila ng 38k+ sa loob ng isang araw. Which I think na itong time-based recoveries ay para sa mga asymptomatic and mild ang symptoms na kapag natapos na ang isolation period nila ay considered na as recovered.

      Quote
      COVID-19 patients who are mild and asymptomatic will be counted as recoveries after they complete 14-day isolation periods from the time they start showing symptoms of the disease or their samples are collected for testing.

      Source:
      Code:
       https://rappler.com/nation/doh-says-mass-recovery-adjustment-coronavirus-patients-based-scientific-evidence


      Aside dyan, meron ding recent news about sa new mutation ng virus dito sa Pilipinas

      https://i.postimg.cc/XvcnNL40/image.png

      Hindi ba mas nakakabahala yung ganito dahil mas infectious ito at mas mataas ang chance na makahawa sa iba. Although sa Q.C. nila nakita ito mula sa random selected positive samples, may chance pa rin na kumakalat na ito sa ibang part ng Pilipinas na pwedeng isa sa reason bakit tumataas ang daily cases natin. Ano sa tingin nyo mga kabayan?

      read the full article:
      Code:
      https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/08/17/2035946/new-coronavirus-mutation-found-philippines


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Debonaire217 on August 17, 2020, 08:16:31 AM
      Do you guys think MECQ will be extended in NCR, or will Duterte announce the move back to GCQ? I heard that originally they planned on moving to GCQ after the 18th as the government no longer has funds to buy food for all the people out of work there, but now some agencies are suggesting 14 more days of MECQ.. I'm hoping its GCQ so I can fly home, and not have a 3rd flight cancelled.

      I am residing in Manila and most of the news indicates a possible downgrade from MECQ but in a 'stricter' GCQ. Pero, may mga researchers na nagsasabing kung hanggang August 18 lamang ang MECQ, maaaring umangat sa 230,000 ang cases sa ating bansa.

      Quote
      President Rodrigo Duterte  is expected to announce on Monday if the MECQ will be retained in Metro Manila, Cavite, Bulacan, Rizal and Laguna or it will be downgraded to GCQ.

      we may look at this news: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/751614/metro-manila-mayors-want-stricter-gcq-says-mmda-exec/story/

      With the recent increase sa recoveries kahit medyo kaduda duda, malamang ay hindi na mag extend ang MECQ since nag bigay naman na sila ng date from August 4 - 18 dala na din nung sinabi mo, kinukulang ang budget para suportahan ang bansa kung magpapatuloy pa ang MECQ.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on August 17, 2020, 10:02:29 AM
      -
      reading through the article I wish DOH could elaborate more about this new "40k" new recoveries instead of saying that 39K+ of the new recoveries was "time-based" recoveries.
      Itong 40k recoveries ay parang nung kagaya lang din dati kung saan nag recover din sila ng 38k+ sa loob ng isang araw. Which I think na itong time-based recoveries ay para sa mga asymptomatic and mild ang symptoms na kapag natapos na ang isolation period nila ay considered na as recovered.
      Yep. Weekly base na 'yong report, right? Expect mo na 'to sa incoming reports nila, napabayaan na rin 'yong data sa simula pa lang. Baka siguro rekta tagging as "recovered" na lang ginagawa nila behind after ma-complete nung patient 'yong 14 days ng quarantine niya, without even confirming if lumala ba 'yong kaso niya or not. Besides, imagine ipa-follow up ng mga na sa medical field 'yang karami na 'yan eh dami na rin nilang shortcomings sa pagha-handle niyang mga 'yan. I can't blame them rin naman, baka siguro work became too much na rin tapos magulo pa sistema nila, kaya ganiyan.

      -
      Hindi ba mas nakakabahala yung ganito dahil mas infectious ito at mas mataas ang chance na makahawa sa iba. Although sa Q.C. nila nakita ito mula sa random selected positive samples, may chance pa rin na kumakalat na ito sa ibang part ng Pilipinas na pwedeng isa sa reason bakit tumataas ang daily cases natin. Ano sa tingin nyo mga kabayan?
      More infectious? If this affects 'yong number of cases natin. I won't be surprised if mag-revert tayo to ECQ.

      Do you guys think MECQ will be extended in NCR, or will Duterte announce the move back to GCQ? I heard that originally they planned on moving to GCQ after the 18th as the government no longer has funds to buy food for all the people out of work there, but now some agencies are suggesting 14 more days of MECQ.. I'm hoping its GCQ so I can fly home, and not have a 3rd flight cancelled.
      I guess you don't have to worry anymore. It was just announced recently, na by August 19 NCR, and some other areas will be place under GCQ.
      Quote
      Simula sa August 19, 2020, balik na sa General Community Quarantine (GCQ) ang NCR, Bulacan, Laguna, Cavite, at Rizal.
      ---
      Metro Manila, Bulacan, Cavite, Laguna, Rizal, Nueva Ecija, Batangas, Quezon, Iloilo City, Cebu City, Lapu-Lapu City, Mandaue City, Talisay City in Cebu, and the municipalities of Minglanilla and Consolacion.

      The rest of the country will be under modified GCQ.
      Sources: https://www.facebook.com/116724526976/posts/10159157112931977/
                      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/751743/ncr-bulacan-cavite-laguna-rizal-back-to-gcq-says-duterte/story/


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: criz2fer on August 19, 2020, 12:10:57 AM
      Patuloy man ang pagtaas ng cases, ang mga nkakaloka is yung biglang pagtanggal ng barriers for the couple or magkasama sa bahay. Mga katrabaho ko is bumili pa nito kahit sa mataas na halaga tapos bigla pwede na? Only in the Philippines . ???


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on August 19, 2020, 10:36:47 AM
      Patuloy man ang pagtaas ng cases, ang mga nkakaloka is yung biglang pagtanggal ng barriers for the couple or magkasama sa bahay. Mga katrabaho ko is bumili pa nito kahit sa mataas na halaga tapos bigla pwede na? Only in the Philippines . ???
      Naive implementations from the government. Here's one fact, sa rehiyon ko tumaas bigla yung cases at malala pa diyan mukhang may community transmission na rin Ang ibang nga municipality. One thing na naobserbahan ko mukhang nag lie low yung gobyerno (I'm speaking about my LGU but most likely it applies to other near LGUs) at yung mga stricter protocol na in-implement nila noon biglang humina, my God we have already cases pero parang mas humina pa tuloy.

      If ever MECQ is at plan I mostly agree rather than risk to have more transmission in the end. Our City and Provincial Hospitals are now nearing full and the saddest part was the frontliners of one Provincial Hospital mga 20+ na nurses ang nagpositibo.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: criz2fer on August 20, 2020, 05:20:24 AM
      Patuloy man ang pagtaas ng cases, ang mga nkakaloka is yung biglang pagtanggal ng barriers for the couple or magkasama sa bahay. Mga katrabaho ko is bumili pa nito kahit sa mataas na halaga tapos bigla pwede na? Only in the Philippines . ???
      Naive implementations from the government. Here's one fact, sa rehiyon ko tumaas bigla yung cases at malala pa diyan mukhang may community transmission na rin Ang ibang nga municipality. One thing na naobserbahan ko mukhang nag lie low yung gobyerno (I'm speaking about my LGU but most likely it applies to other near LGUs) at yung mga stricter protocol na in-implement nila noon biglang humina, my God we have already cases pero parang mas humina pa tuloy.

      If ever MECQ is at plan I mostly agree rather than risk to have more transmission in the end. Our City and Provincial Hospitals are now nearing full and the saddest part was the frontliners of one Provincial Hospital mga 20+ na nurses ang nagpositibo.

      Sa mga check points talaga ay hindi na sila maxado naghihigpit. I'm travelling back and fort from Manila to province, most of them are not strict on checking people that passing the check point which are mostly LGU hired people that not implementing the proper guidelines. In the end, disiplina din sa mga namumuno ng kada Locals ang kailangnan higpitan para yung mga essentials lang talaga yung makadaan.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: pallang on August 20, 2020, 01:18:51 PM
      Patuloy man ang pagtaas ng cases, ang mga nkakaloka is yung biglang pagtanggal ng barriers for the couple or magkasama sa bahay. Mga katrabaho ko is bumili pa nito kahit sa mataas na halaga tapos bigla pwede na? Only in the Philippines . ???
      Magagamit pa naman nila mga barrier sa pagpriprito para di sila matalsikan ng mantika. And dami tlagang palpak ng mga nagpapatupad ng batas. Mapapamura ka n lng tlaga sa liit ng utak nila.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: rhomelmabini on August 21, 2020, 12:06:02 AM
      Sa mga check points talaga ay hindi na sila maxado naghihigpit. I'm travelling back and fort from Manila to province, most of them are not strict on checking people that passing the check point which are mostly LGU hired people that not implementing the proper guidelines. In the end, disiplina din sa mga namumuno ng kada Locals ang kailangnan higpitan para yung mga essentials lang talaga yung makadaan.
      What else can we expect, I think hindi lang sa 'Pinas nangyayari ito if wala pang gaanong grabe na pangyayari hindi pa mag implement ng stricter protocol. From my observation rin humina kasi kulang yung ayuda sa mga municipal frontliners something like that, wala na ring motivation mga tao na sumunod if ever walang ayudang natatanggap, sad but this is what I observed.

      More like we are at second wave of this pandemic and if there's no stricter protocol at hindi pa sumunod yung iba sa mga guidelines tiyak 1 million isn't that hard for the Philippines to achieve such lengths of cases.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Bttzed03 on August 21, 2020, 11:01:53 AM
      ~ ang mga nkakaloka is yung biglang pagtanggal ng barriers for the couple or magkasama sa bahay.
      Magagamit pa naman nila mga barrier sa pagpriprito para di sila matalsikan ng mantika.
      Pwede pa magamit barrier kay no. 2 8)



      Tungkol sa news being circulated ng mga iba't ibang stations tungkol sa mga milyones na unreported/undetected case sa Pinas ayon sa pag-aaral daw ng isang unibersidad, narito ang rebuttal ng former IATF consultant, isang spesyalista sa pagaaral ng infectious diseases, at siang molecular biologist.

      Post link: https://www.facebook.com/edselmaurice.salvana/posts/10207985143221955

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      Ok let's address this study (preprint, not peer reviewed) that there are MILLIONS of undetected COVID-19 in the Philippines.

      1. First of all, actual case counts are a function of testing and surveillance. For example, the ESTIMATED number of influenza cases in the US cases per year is extrapolated from sentinel sites, and the estimated deaths is also extrapolated using mathematical models. This is how infectious diseases are measured. There is NO WAY you can test everyone to know the actual number of cases because:

      a. there simply aren't enough tests or testers available
      b. you'll spend a ridiculous amount of money testing low risk individuals
      c. your data will not be reliable by the time you finish testing (it may take the whole year) because some of those people who were negative are now actually positive.

      This is why, very early on, those of us in the scientific community who understood infectious diseases thought that the whole idea of "mass testing" was not only ridiculous, it was dangerous. It diverted much needed resources for isolation, treatment and prevention and gave people a false sense of security if they tested negative. This was further magnified by the misguided use of rapid antibody tests which are notoriously inaccurate. We kept saying - the only thing worse than no test is a bad test - but very people were listening.

      2. It is very difficult to estimate actual case numbers when your testing capacity is constantly changing. If you are only targeting severe and critical symptomatics, a public health practitioner ALREADY KNOWS that you are only capturing about 20% of the actual infected population. Therefore, in our minds, we ALREADY KNOW that you add another 80% to the cases to get close to the actual number. However, if you target even mild patients which we did as the testing capacity increased, then you get closer to the actual number and you only have to correct for those if the proportion of cases you are capturing is less than 80% milds. Finally, the CDC later on realized that 40% of cases may be asymptomatic, so now we need to factor those in. If we look at the current distribution of cases, 91.5% are mild, which means that we are most likely capturing a good number of the symptomatics across the board. 6.5% are asymptomatic, so we probably need to add another 33% or more to the estimate because it is VERY HARD to capture asymptomatic - the tests don't work very well due to low viral loads, and there isn't very much incentive to test asymptomatics other than those being contact-traced. Which brings me to another point - the increasing number of asymptomatics detected coupled with increasing positivity rate may also signal that contact tracing is getting better at capturing exposed people and testing them. Finally, you also take into account false negatives even with PCR so add another 40 or 50% to the confirmed number.

      3. We also know that there are major backlogs and delays in testing, partially because everyone wants a test and the system gets overwhelmed - yet another reason why mass testing is a bad idea. It also kills your turn-around time and you will need to preemptively isolate people for days on end - some people get their negative test after they have already completed 14 days of quarantine. Antigen testing may help with this backlog, but ONLY IF IT IS PROPERLY USED UNDER CLINICAL SUPERVISION. Otherwise we will have a lot more haphazard testing and waste, as well as people who have a false sense of security and may take unnecessary risk.

      4. The BEST way to find out how many people HAVE HAD COVID-19 in the community is with a highly sensitive and specific antibody test. The CLIAs and ELISAs (NOT the rapid antibody tests) are the best tool for this. You DO NOT NEED to test everyone, you just need to do a PROPER SAMPLING methodology. Former Health Secretary Manolet Dayrit is doing this in select communities already and this will be the BEST estimate of the extent of COVID-19 infection in the community since it will be rooted in REAL data.

      5. Since COVID-19 is such a new disease, models of spread are constantly changing, along with testing targets and proportions of clinical disease. It is needless speculation bordering on alarmist to state that we have missed MILLIONS of cases. Even if that was true, the clinically relevant effect would still be the number of deaths and our healthcare capacity - which is near its limit, but hopefully continues to be manageable. This is where I would put limited funds - increasing healthcare capacity and not just more testing. In a way, if MILLIONS have ALREADY been infected and we have had under 3,000 deaths, that would actually mean that there is a growing proportion of the population who have developed some immunity and this will help slow down the spread. If a vaccine is not developed anytime soon, this is actually the best way forward - minimal deaths while building up immunity and eventually putting a stop to the surges that threaten to overwhelm our healthcare system. This also ensures our economy can remain open as long as we take good care of our patients and the healthcare system.

      So don't let numbers scare you. Know that we have the tools to STOP this epidemic - mask, face shield and physical distancing. A new infectious disease agent will spread - that's what infectious diseases do. But the most important part is managing the infections and keeping deaths low. If a vaccine comes, great. If it doesn't, it's not the end of the world.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: criz2fer on August 25, 2020, 09:18:46 AM
      Sa mga check points talaga ay hindi na sila maxado naghihigpit. I'm travelling back and fort from Manila to province, most of them are not strict on checking people that passing the check point which are mostly LGU hired people that not implementing the proper guidelines. In the end, disiplina din sa mga namumuno ng kada Locals ang kailangnan higpitan para yung mga essentials lang talaga yung makadaan.
      What else can we expect, I think hindi lang sa 'Pinas nangyayari ito if wala pang gaanong grabe na pangyayari hindi pa mag implement ng stricter protocol. From my observation rin humina kasi kulang yung ayuda sa mga municipal frontliners something like that, wala na ring motivation mga tao na sumunod if ever walang ayudang natatanggap, sad but this is what I observed.

      More like we are at second wave of this pandemic and if there's no stricter protocol at hindi pa sumunod yung iba sa mga guidelines tiyak 1 million isn't that hard for the Philippines to achieve such lengths of cases.

      Actually wala ng umiikot na pera kaya hindi rin nagsisispag ang ibang municipalities. Samantalang noong una plang na lockdown eh ang sisipag manita kahit mga tricycle drivers sa barangay.

      Nas culture din talaga ng mga Filipino ang last minute, kaya kung kelan may nagkaroon ng virus sa kanilang lugar ay bago palang sila naghihigpit sa communities nila which is too late na talaga.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: mk4 on August 25, 2020, 10:12:23 AM
      Sa mga check points talaga ay hindi na sila maxado naghihigpit. I'm travelling back and fort from Manila to province, most of them are not strict on checking people that passing the check point which are mostly LGU hired people that not implementing the proper guidelines. In the end, disiplina din sa mga namumuno ng kada Locals ang kailangnan higpitan para yung mga essentials lang talaga yung makadaan.

      100%. I know a few people na kung saan saan nagpupunta kahit may mga checkpoints, tapos mostly gabi pa, past the 9pm curfew. Ang sabi saakin is mostly for mga tambay at naglalakad lang daw sa gabi ung curfew, pero since 2 weeks ago angdami paring tao sa labas past 9pm.

      ^Unless for minors nalang ung curfew so correct me if I'm wrong.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on August 26, 2020, 02:39:55 PM
      ^Unless for minors nalang ung curfew so correct me if I'm wrong.
      Afaik, ang curfew eh para lang sa kabataan,... naghahatid sundo ako kay kumander inaabot ako ng 10-12 pm sa byahe atska ang dami ko din nakikita na nakatambay actually di ko alam kung may sinusundo rin, dito sa laguna medyo active lang eh Los Banos. the rest maluwag sa checkpoint maliban na lang siguro kung may utos sa kanila LoL.

      makikita mo na lang talaga sila mga naggagadget tapos nakaupo patingin tingin lang.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on August 27, 2020, 09:31:25 AM
      ^Unless for minors nalang ung curfew so correct me if I'm wrong.
      Afaik, ang curfew eh para lang sa kabataan,... naghahatid sundo ako kay kumander inaabot ako ng 10-12 pm sa byahe atska ang dami ko din nakikita na nakatambay actually di ko alam kung may sinusundo rin, dito sa laguna medyo active lang eh Los Banos. the rest maluwag sa checkpoint maliban na lang siguro kung may utos sa kanila LoL.

      makikita mo na lang talaga sila mga naggagadget tapos nakaupo patingin tingin lang.

      ^
      akala ko na lift na yung curfew pati sa mga bata but if that is the case. ang dami palang pasaway na magulang na hinahayaan ang mga anak na lumabas. dito sa area namin napaka raming bata ang nag alalro sa labas ng bahay hanggang gabi. walang nag papatrol na brgy. tanod or security guard para sawaying yung mga bata. nakakaumay nang tumingin sa balita sa sobrang daming mga pasaway na tao, mga incompetent na governement officials.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on August 27, 2020, 11:13:37 AM
      akala ko na lift na yung curfew pati sa mga bata but if that is the case. ang dami palang pasaway na magulang na hinahayaan ang mga anak na lumabas. dito sa area namin napaka raming bata ang nag alalro sa labas ng bahay hanggang gabi. walang nag papatrol na brgy. tanod or security guard para sawaying yung mga bata. nakakaumay nang tumingin sa balita sa sobrang daming mga pasaway na tao, mga incompetent na governement officials.
      Not sure pero nakadepende pa rin yata sa area. Pero dito kasi medyo strict pa rin, you still have to present some necessary stuff just to prove na galing ka sa work mo kaya late ka na nakauuwi.

      I just stumble upon this news. May ilalala pa ba 'tong mga balita?
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      DOH: Not enough data to conclude Chinese tourists source of COVID-19 in Philippines
      Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/753121/doh-not-enough-data-to-conclude-chinese-tourists-source-of-covid-19-in-philippines/story/)

      If I recall correctly, 'di ba 'yong first case ng corona virus dito sa 'tin is from a Chinese tourist na galing directly from Wuhan yata? Bakit ngayon may pagtanggi  :-\.

      We already surpass 200k mark na pala kahapon, here (https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/8/26/PH-coronavirus-cases-over-202k.html). At mukhang aabot pa yata tayo sa top 10 most cases worldwide if 'yong increment sa new cases natin still continue for a month.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on August 27, 2020, 02:34:23 PM
      akala ko na lift na yung curfew pati sa mga bata but if that is the case. ang dami palang pasaway na magulang na hinahayaan ang mga anak na lumabas. dito sa area namin napaka raming bata ang nag alalro sa labas ng bahay hanggang gabi. walang nag papatrol na brgy. tanod or security guard para sawaying yung mga bata. nakakaumay nang tumingin sa balita sa sobrang daming mga pasaway na tao, mga incompetent na governement officials.
      Not sure pero nakadepende pa rin yata sa area. Pero dito kasi medyo strict pa rin, you still have to present some necessary stuff just to prove na galing ka sa work mo kaya late ka na nakauuwi.
      Samin din ay medyo strict since need pa rin ng quarantine pass paglalabas and hindi pa rin pwede ang mga 20 at pababa, although marami paring nakakalabas kahit below sa age limit. Siguro kulang din talaga sa pag check ang mga awtoridad.

      We already surpass 200k mark na pala kahapon, here (https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/8/26/PH-coronavirus-cases-over-202k.html). At mukhang aabot pa yata tayo sa top 10 most cases worldwide if 'yong increment sa new cases natin still continue for a month.
      Pero sabi sa article na to, predict nila na baka mag flatten na yung curve by the end ng August or September. Although nasa katapusan na tayo ng August at mukhang hindi pa naman visible na papunta na nga tayo doon, pero sana ay tama ang prediction nila para hindi na lumala.

      Source:
      Code:
      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1326181/covid-19-curve-may-flatten-by-end-of-august-or-september-up-expert


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on August 27, 2020, 03:32:41 PM
      At mukhang aabot pa yata tayo sa top 10 most cases worldwide if 'yong increment sa new cases natin still continue for a month.
      Pinas pa ba? di tayo papatalo pagdating sa mga ganyan,...
      Utang, kahirapan, kurapsyon, ngayon sakit... kelan nga ba tayo nagpatalo? lagi tayong sunod sa uso. Kaya hindi na bago satin yan kung tutuusin, mas magiging bago satin kung hindi tayo dinapuaan nyan.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on August 27, 2020, 04:06:31 PM
      -
      Pero sabi sa article na to, predict nila na baka mag flatten na yung curve by the end ng August or September. Although nasa katapusan na tayo ng August at mukhang hindi pa naman visible na papunta na nga tayo doon, pero sana ay tama ang prediction nila para hindi na lumala.
      Possible since malaki rin count ng recoveries natin. The thing is, 'yong mga nadi-discharge is 'di naman napa-follow up ng mga doctors or anyone medical related employees if they were totally free na or showing no symptoms, basta ma-complete lang 'yong 14 days quarantine then good to go na  :(. Kaya 'di rin definite 'yong data either way.
      Pinas pa ba? di tayo papatalo pagdating sa mga ganyan,...
      Utang, kahirapan, kurapsyon, ngayon sakit... kelan nga ba tayo nagpatalo? lagi tayong sunod sa uso. Kaya hindi na bago satin yan kung tutuusin, mas magiging bago satin kung hindi tayo dinapuaan nyan.
      Vaccine na lang malinaw na pag-asa dito at parang malabo na 'yong 0 report cases sa ganitong estado natin. Saka para 'di na doble hirap pa, kasi parang wala na ring plausible action 'tong government natin.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on August 27, 2020, 04:31:58 PM
      Possible since malaki rin count ng recoveries natin.
      Yang mga datos na yan hindi na ko naniniwala dyan, siguro kung totoo man eh di mabuti, pero tingin ko nagiging exaggerated na mga opisyal...
      Vaccine na lang malinaw na pag-asa dito at parang malabo na 'yong 0 report cases sa ganitong estado natin. Saka para 'di na doble hirap pa, kasi parang wala na ring plausible action 'tong government natin.
      vaccine, magiging sagot pwede, pero tignan natin ang katotohanan kung mabibigyan ba lahat nito, dito masusubukan yung mahirap o mayaman.
      nakakalungkot isipin na mas madami ang bilang ng mahirap sa atin kung kaya pag nagkataon delubyo ito pag hindi lahat nabigyan.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: iyamoxjhian on September 07, 2020, 05:48:42 AM
      kadalasan yung mga sinasabi sa balita salungat sa nasasaksihan mo sa paligid mo. kagaya ng malapit na tayo sa pagflatten ng curve pero pag pumapasok ako sa trabaho  (2beses na nga lang sa isang linggo) napakadaming tao sa labas na hindi nman sila yung mga pumapasok pero sila yung mga nakatambay lang.mat andaming bata..na ang sinabi sa news kahit na GCQ na dapat nanantili sa loob ng bahay ang mga senior xitizens at 21 years old pababa..eh ang nangyayari kadalasan, sila p yung makukulit na nakatambay sa labas..na lang talaga kung gusto nila maflatten ang curve ng infected, wag lang sana sa iilang area lang sila naghihigpit..sana lahat ng area ksi pag hindi na naman naagapan to dadami na naman ang infected sa buong pilipinas.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on September 07, 2020, 12:55:16 PM
      Napanood ko itong news na ito mula sa GMA at sabi ng mga research experts sa UP ay bumababa na daw ang mga covid cases at visible daw ito sa ibang mga ospital dito sa NCR. Although sabi naman ng DOH ay masyado pang maaga para mag celebrate tungkol dito. Magandang balita ito na kahit papaano ay nagsisimula na bumaba ang cases pero ayon din sa balita, kahit bumababa ito ay mas matitindi naman ang symptoms ng mga naoospital at  nadadagdagan ang mga mas bata na nagkakavirus.

      Code:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en7eGWXb1bg

      Ano sa tingin nyo? Ilang buwan na ang lumilipas, magpapatuloy kaya ang pagbaba ng covid cases o pwedeng tumaas ulit ito dahil mas dumarami na ang nagbubukas na mga establishment at mas marami na ang nakakalabas?


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on September 07, 2020, 02:14:36 PM
      Ano sa tingin nyo? Ilang buwan na ang lumilipas, magpapatuloy kaya ang pagbaba ng covid cases o pwedeng tumaas ulit ito dahil mas dumarami na ang nagbubukas na mga establishment at mas marami na ang nakakalabas?
      Apparently, we really don't know anymore na haha. Pero practically saying, baka nga bumaba kung 'yong dami ng recoveries natin is magiging consistent or somewhat close to each other, and pag bumaba rin 'yong count ng new cases natin. Though by stats nga lang lahat 'to, pero 'di naman natin sigurado if certain 'yon or not since 'yong pagta-tag nila sa mga patient as recovered is pagnaka-complete lang ng 14-days quarantine  :-\, 'di naman sigurado if may follow up test pa 'yon or wala na as I don't see any info regarding don. Either way, 'di naman na certain lahat ng 'to, to begin with.

      I just hope na lang na ma-complete na ang lunas sa problemang 'to.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on September 10, 2020, 06:22:33 AM
      I just hope na lang na ma-complete na ang lunas sa problemang 'to.
      Kumpleto na naman daw as of Russian Government ang kaso nga lang upon testing pa.rin atska ang posibilidad n ilabas itonay sa 2021 pa, which means maybe x2 or x3 muna ang bilang ng Covid cases and deaths bago tayo bumalik sa normal...
      Para tayong nasa gera nito,... everyday may nalalagutan ng hininga at may dumadagdag na kaso.
      Kaumay na talaga sa Pinas. Tara sa Dagat 😂


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on September 10, 2020, 06:40:44 AM
      I just hope na lang na ma-complete na ang lunas sa problemang 'to.
      Kumpleto na naman daw as of Russian Government ang kaso nga lang upon testing pa.rin atska ang posibilidad n ilabas itonay sa 2021 pa, which means maybe x2 or x3 muna ang bilang ng Covid cases and deaths bago tayo bumalik sa normal...
      Para tayong nasa gera nito,... everyday may nalalagutan ng hininga at may dumadagdag na kaso.
      Kaumay na talaga sa Pinas. Tara sa Dagat 😂
      Good to hear kahit papaano. And malamang sa malamang marami muna magsa-suffer, wala rin naman tayo magagawa but to wait. Medyo nakaka-fed up na rin 'yong kung ano-anong balita lumalabas. Sakto pala tapos na rin ng term ni President 'yon, right? Sana tumino na 'yong papalit. And, how I wish, na sana before lockdown eh nakauwi manlang ako sa province namin, nang makaiwas rin sana 'ko sa iba pang gawain dito  :-\.

      Pero actually, sobrang nakaka-praning pala talaga 'to lalo na pag-sobrang lapit lang sa inyo 'yong infected. Nakatatakot lang kasi 'yong kapitbahay namin right beside our house eh nag-positive. Tas after non tinayuan na ng mga tent dito sa area namin, damn! Hindi mo aakalain kasi parang ghost town lang naman dito tas may dinapuan na pala bigla. And magra-run ata ng swab test dito, sana wala na madagdagan pa.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Eureka_07 on September 10, 2020, 07:50:24 AM
      Pero actually, sobrang nakaka-praning pala talaga 'to lalo na pag-sobrang lapit lang sa inyo 'yong infected. Nakatatakot lang kasi 'yong kapitbahay namin right beside our house eh nag-positive. Tas after non tinayuan na ng mga tent dito sa area namin, damn! Hindi mo aakalain kasi parang ghost town lang naman dito tas may dinapuan na pala bigla. And magra-run ata ng swab test dito, sana wala na madagdagan pa.
      Ingat kabayan. Mas mabuti nang wag na lumabas kung di kailangan.
      Dito rin sa village dito samin. Dito sa building namin, ka floor lang. Nakakatakot nga lumabas kasi baka may "naiwan" na virus sa mga dinaanan nya. Though may papel na sya na nagsasabi na magaling na sya. Ang ginawa lang, dito sya nag quarantine sa unit nila dito. Dahil daw ay may mga kasama silang bata doon sa isa nilang bahay.
      Kahit na may papel na, nagalit parin yung iba naming kapitbahay, lalo na yung katapat lang nila na unit, since sobrang lapit kasi nila talaga. Ang malala, nung pagkapunta niya sa unit nya, may problema sa circuit ng ilaw, pinaayos nya dun sa kapitbahay na katapat niya walang sabi sabi na nagpositive pala sya for covid nung nakaraan, wala pa syang mask.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on September 10, 2020, 11:01:08 AM
      I just hope na lang na ma-complete na ang lunas sa problemang 'to.
      Kumpleto na naman daw as of Russian Government ang kaso nga lang upon testing pa.rin atska ang posibilidad n ilabas itonay sa 2021 pa, which means maybe x2 or x3 muna ang bilang ng Covid cases and deaths bago tayo bumalik sa normal...
      Para tayong nasa gera nito,... everyday may nalalagutan ng hininga at may dumadagdag na kaso.
      Kaumay na talaga sa Pinas. Tara sa Dagat 😂

      regarding testing phase, di pa rin ganoon ka convinced ang DOST sa initial vaccine test reports na binigiay ng mga scientist nung nag test sila sa mga tao. masyado daw genaralized ang explanation ng mga scientist. (napadaan lang sa FB page ko ung interview)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on September 10, 2020, 11:09:24 AM
      I just hope na lang na ma-complete na ang lunas sa problemang 'to.
      Kumpleto na naman daw as of Russian Government ang kaso nga lang upon testing pa.rin atska ang posibilidad n ilabas itonay sa 2021 pa, which means maybe x2 or x3 muna ang bilang ng Covid cases and deaths bago tayo bumalik sa normal...
      Para tayong nasa gera nito,... everyday may nalalagutan ng hininga at may dumadagdag na kaso.
      Kaumay na talaga sa Pinas. Tara sa Dagat 😂

      regarding testing phase, di pa rin ganoon ka convinced ang DOST sa initial vaccine test reports na binigiay ng mga scientist nung nag test sila sa mga tao. masyado daw genaralized ang explanation ng mga scientist. (napadaan lang sa FB page ko ung interview)
      Link?
      Mas maganda kasi nyan itest nila sa may Covid at sa walang Covid. Para malaman nila ang resulta. O kaya yung tinurukan nila ilagay nila sa quarantine area ng isang may Covid then observe nila for ilang days kung effective if nagkaCovid ung tinurukan the voila another case and problem solved  hnd epektibo  😅


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on September 10, 2020, 12:31:08 PM
      Pero actually, sobrang nakaka-praning pala talaga 'to lalo na pag-sobrang lapit lang sa inyo 'yong infected. Nakatatakot lang kasi 'yong kapitbahay namin right beside our house eh nag-positive. Tas after non tinayuan na ng mga tent dito sa area namin, damn! Hindi mo aakalain kasi parang ghost town lang naman dito tas may dinapuan na pala bigla. And magra-run ata ng swab test dito, sana wala na madagdagan pa.
      Ingat kabayan. Mas mabuti nang wag na lumabas kung di kailangan.
      Dito rin sa village dito samin. Dito sa building namin, ka floor lang. Nakakatakot nga lumabas kasi baka may "naiwan" na virus sa mga dinaanan nya. Though may papel na sya na nagsasabi na magaling na sya. Ang ginawa lang, dito sya nag quarantine sa unit nila dito. Dahil daw ay may mga kasama silang bata doon sa isa nilang bahay.
      Kahit na may papel na, nagalit parin yung iba naming kapitbahay, lalo na yung katapat lang nila na unit, since sobrang lapit kasi nila talaga. Ang malala, nung pagkapunta niya sa unit nya, may problema sa circuit ng ilaw, pinaayos nya dun sa kapitbahay na katapat niya walang sabi sabi na nagpositive pala sya for covid nung nakaraan, wala pa syang mask.
      Sobrang nakakatakot talaga lumabas lalo kung alam mo na kapitbahay or katabi nyu lang yung meron virus. Dito samin tanaw sa bintana yung mga street na may mga tent and itong mga tent na ito ay nag iindicate na may cases don kaya lagi ko din na pinapaalala sa tatay ko na wag muna kayo dadaan sa street na yun dahil sya pa naman ang lumalabas sa amin dahil nagtratrabaho pa rin siya.

      Mali talaga ang ginawa ng kapitbahay nyu na hindi nagsabi na positive sya pero maari din na takot sya magsabi dahil iiwasan at parang pandidirihan sya ng iba. Pero sana nag provide yung LGU nyo ng separate isolation para sa mga nagpopositive kahit mild or asymptomatic para hindi mabahala yung mga kapitbahay or tao sa paligid. Ganun kasi dito samin although nakakabahala pa rin pag alam mo na may nag positive.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on September 10, 2020, 01:42:50 PM
      I just hope na lang na ma-complete na ang lunas sa problemang 'to.
      Kumpleto na naman daw as of Russian Government ang kaso nga lang upon testing pa.rin atska ang posibilidad n ilabas itonay sa 2021 pa, which means maybe x2 or x3 muna ang bilang ng Covid cases and deaths bago tayo bumalik sa normal...
      Para tayong nasa gera nito,... everyday may nalalagutan ng hininga at may dumadagdag na kaso.
      Kaumay na talaga sa Pinas. Tara sa Dagat 😂

      regarding testing phase, di pa rin ganoon ka convinced ang DOST sa initial vaccine test reports na binigiay ng mga scientist nung nag test sila sa mga tao. masyado daw genaralized ang explanation ng mga scientist. (napadaan lang sa FB page ko ung interview)
      Link?
      Mas maganda kasi nyan itest nila sa may Covid at sa walang Covid. Para malaman nila ang resulta. O kaya yung tinurukan nila ilagay nila sa quarantine area ng isang may Covid then observe nila for ilang days kung effective if nagkaCovid ung tinurukan the voila another case and problem solved  hnd epektibo  😅
      nag tataka ako kung bakit maraming galit na tao na nag cocomment sa comment section nung napanuod ko sa FB eh valid naman yung concern ng DOST at para sa safety rin nmn ng mga taong matuturukan nung vaccine

      also, after watching the video again I think yung sinabi kong "di masyadong convince" ay masyadong misleading since gusto lang ng DOST ng more information tungkol sa vaccine results.

      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/scitech/science/754387/dost-wants-more-data-on-results-of-russian-study-on-covid-19-vaccine/story/


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on September 10, 2020, 02:28:21 PM
      -
      Ingat kabayan. Mas mabuti nang wag na lumabas kung di kailangan.
      Thanks sa concern  ;). Triple ingat na kami dito dahil mahirap na't 'di rin sigurado kung sino pa carrier dito, baka asymptomatic or what.
      Kahit na may papel na, nagalit parin yung iba naming kapitbahay, lalo na yung katapat lang nila na unit, since sobrang lapit kasi nila talaga. Ang malala, nung pagkapunta niya sa unit nya, may problema sa circuit ng ilaw, pinaayos nya dun sa kapitbahay na katapat niya walang sabi sabi na nagpositive pala sya for covid nung nakaraan, wala pa syang mask.
      Damn! Tama nga sinabi ni @plvbob0070 baka takot rin siya pandirihan since may mga kaso kasi na minsan 'yong ibang family eh nadi-discriminate nung iba, can't blame him rin naman pero the thing is, bakit naman pinayagan mag-quarantine 'yan sa place na 'yan? Nailayo nga sa risk 'yong family niya pero ibang pamilya naman 'yong nailagay sa panganib 'yong buhay, smh  :-\. They could've handled it better than that.

      nag tataka ako kung bakit maraming galit na tao na nag cocomment sa comment section nung napanuod ko sa FB eh valid naman yung concern ng DOST at para sa safety rin nmn ng mga taong matuturukan nung vaccine

      also, after watching the video again I think yung sinabi kong "di masyadong convince" ay masyadong misleading since gusto lang ng DOST ng more information tungkol sa vaccine results.
      Apparently, they were already convinced enough sa claim na "safe", "effective" without considering the underyling stuff with or they aren't reading the news thoroughly at na-misinterpret nila 'yong gusto lang malaman nung DOST hence, minasama nila 'yong concern. Anyway, typical reaction na 'yang ganiyan sa socmed haha, am not surprised though.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on September 10, 2020, 03:02:17 PM
      Apparently, they were already convinced enough sa claim na "safe", "effective" without considering the underyling stuff with or they aren't reading the news thoroughly at na-misinterpret nila 'yong gusto lang malaman nung DOST hence, minasama nila 'yong concern. Anyway, typical reaction na 'yang ganiyan sa socmed haha, am not surprised though.

      that's the thing, the negative reaction is too normalized, although I expected it and was not surprised, it is sad that people are blinded by their political beliefs that they don't care if the concern was valid as long as they can disagree with it.



      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: mk4 on September 17, 2020, 01:35:04 PM
      Ano balita sa mga lugar niyo? Ung nearby cities na katabi ng city na tinitirahan ko and ung probinsya na tinitirahan ko has been racking up on new COVID cases ulit in the past few days after having almost near-zero cases for weeks. Mejo naging komportable ata masyado mga tao samin na lumabas labas ulit; may mga barkada nga akong nakapag ilang inuman na sa mga bahay bahay.

      (Please don't mention your specific city for personal privacy purposes)


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: AicecreaME on September 17, 2020, 01:47:53 PM
      Ano balita sa mga lugar niyo? Ung nearby cities na katabi ng city na tinitirahan ko and ung probinsya na tinitirahan ko has been racking up on new COVID cases ulit in the past few days after having almost near-zero cases for weeks. Mejo naging komportable ata masyado mga tao samin na lumabas labas ulit; may mga barkada nga akong nakapag ilang inuman na sa mga bahay bahay.

      (Please don't mention your specific city for personal privacy purposes)

      Recently I've received a message from a friend who happens to be working on "Kabalikat" I guess it's a partylist here, and says there a girl who escaped provincial hospital here which is a COVID-19 patient.

      Hindi ko alam kung bakit napakaraming makasariling tao na ginagawang biro ang sakit na ito. Kakaonti lamang ang active cases dito, kung hindi ako nagkakamali ay dalawa lamang dahil sa mahusay na pamamalakad ng aming Governor. Ngunit napakaraming pasaway kaya nadaragdagan lamang ang mga active cases dito sa amin.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on September 17, 2020, 01:59:11 PM
      Ano balita sa mga lugar niyo? Ung nearby cities na katabi ng city na tinitirahan ko and ung probinsya na tinitirahan ko has been racking up on new COVID cases ulit in the past few days after having almost near-zero cases for weeks. Mejo naging komportable ata masyado mga tao samin na lumabas labas ulit; may mga barkada nga akong nakapag ilang inuman na sa mga bahay bahay.

      (Please don't mention your specific city for personal privacy purposes)
      Fortunately, dito naman sa lugar namin 'yong case isn't alarming naman, been several weeks rin since 'yong last report nila (3 weeks ago, I suppose?) then kanina lang nag-update, and to my suprise napakalayo nung agwat nung recoveries kumpara sa new positive cases, and 'di rin umabot ng 3 digits 'yong mga bagong kaso. It feels different though kasi if ever na lalabas or pupunta ako ng mall, eh always maraming tao, I don't doubt the numbers, I'm just amazed how my city's mayor handle the situation kumpara sa neighboring cities namin (from what I know, eh they still having trouble pa)  :-\.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: mk4 on September 20, 2020, 05:19:07 AM
      Ano balita sa mga lugar niyo? Ung nearby cities na katabi ng city na tinitirahan ko and ung probinsya na tinitirahan ko has been racking up on new COVID cases ulit in the past few days after having almost near-zero cases for weeks. Mejo naging komportable ata masyado mga tao samin na lumabas labas ulit; may mga barkada nga akong nakapag ilang inuman na sa mga bahay bahay.

      (Please don't mention your specific city for personal privacy purposes)

      Quick reminder: Apparently may distant relative kami na nagka COVID dahil lang sa mabilisang may kinausap na kaibigan somewhere sa labas. Paalala lang to take this crap seriously kahit na healthy tayo; dahil pwedeng pwede mapasa sa mga kasama natin sa bahay na matatanda.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Vaculin on September 20, 2020, 10:00:00 AM
      Ano balita sa mga lugar niyo? Ung nearby cities na katabi ng city na tinitirahan ko and ung probinsya na tinitirahan ko has been racking up on new COVID cases ulit in the past few days after having almost near-zero cases for weeks. Mejo naging komportable ata masyado mga tao samin na lumabas labas ulit; may mga barkada nga akong nakapag ilang inuman na sa mga bahay bahay.

      (Please don't mention your specific city for personal privacy purposes)

      Quick reminder: Apparently may distant relative kami na nagka COVID dahil lang sa mabilisang may kinausap na kaibigan somewhere sa labas. Paalala lang to take this crap seriously kahit na healthy tayo; dahil pwedeng pwede mapasa sa mga kasama natin sa bahay na matatanda.

      Tama ka diyan sir pero minsan nagiging comfortable na ang mga tao na lumabas. Sa aming lugar sa province kung saan nandito ako, zero case pa naman kami, merong mga mas cases pero mga LSI at wala namang locally transmitted. Di ko lang nagustuhan is yung mayor namin nag pa live band sa public place, every saturday yata yun at maraming crticism, ewan ko, pwede na ba yan under ECQ?


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Rosilito on September 20, 2020, 10:21:21 AM
      Tama ka diyan sir pero minsan nagiging comfortable na ang mga tao na lumabas.
      Talk about "comfortable" thingy... Have you guys seen this news?

      https://i.imgur.com/rHpOmIR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/3HKydRR.jpg
      Source: https://www.facebook.com/134752476678442/posts/1945805478906457/

      This Sunday lang 'yan sa may Roxas Boulevard. Look, kung gaano sila ka-comfortable sa ganiyan. Akala mo piyesta or na sa dating Divisoria ka lang  :-\. Literally atat makakuha ng mga litrato ng Manila Bay para may mai-post sa mga Social Media nila eh. Dibale na ata mawalan ng panlasa't pang-amoy, damn.

      Sa aming lugar sa province kung saan nandito ako, zero case pa naman kami, merong mga mas cases pero mga LSI at wala namang locally transmitted. Di ko lang nagustuhan is yung mayor namin nag pa live band sa public place, every saturday yata yun at maraming crticism, ewan ko, pwede na ba yan under ECQ?
      Afaik, even sa GCQ ay bawal pa (not really sure though). So, malamang sa malamang bawal pa yan, eh mas strict pa naman ang protocols sa ECQ.

      Mind asking? May mga nagku-kumpulan ba? I hope na sana wala. Mabuti pa kayo at 0 cases, mahirap na pag may dinapuan diyan, mabilis lang ang transmission, usually sa mga ganiyan eh siksikan ang mga tao.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Vaculin on September 20, 2020, 10:42:57 AM
      Tama ka diyan sir pero minsan nagiging comfortable na ang mga tao na lumabas.
      Talk about "comfortable" thingy... Have you guys seen this news?

      https://i.imgur.com/rHpOmIR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/3HKydRR.jpg
      Source: https://www.facebook.com/134752476678442/posts/1945805478906457/

      This Sunday lang 'yan sa may Roxas Boulevard. Look, kung gaano sila ka-comfortable sa ganiyan. Akala mo piyesta or na sa dating Divisoria ka lang  :-\. Literally atat makakuha ng mga litrato ng Manila Bay para may mai-post sa mga Social Media nila eh. Dibale na ata mawalan ng panlasa't pang-amoy, damn.
      Damn, that was a clear " no social distancing". are these people trying to see the white sand put in Manila Bay?
      Sorry guys I'm not familiar since I'm not from Manila.

      I think we have a problem if authority just allow this. Where's the discipline?


      Sa aming lugar sa province kung saan nandito ako, zero case pa naman kami, merong mga mas cases pero mga LSI at wala namang locally transmitted. Di ko lang nagustuhan is yung mayor namin nag pa live band sa public place, every saturday yata yun at maraming crticism, ewan ko, pwede na ba yan under ECQ?
      Afaik, even sa GCQ ay bawal pa (not really sure though). So, malamang sa malamang bawal pa yan, eh mas strict pa naman ang protocols sa ECQ.

      Mind asking? May mga nagku-kumpulan ba? I hope na sana wala. Mabuti pa kayo at 0 cases, mahirap na pag may dinapuan diyan, mabilis lang ang transmission, usually sa mga ganiyan eh siksikan ang mga tao.

      Hindi naman siguro siksikan dahil live band land habang kumakain ka ng bbq dahil may mga nag bebenta sa gilid, pero for sure hindi maiiwasan na walang social distancing dahil may mga alak ring benebenta.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on September 20, 2020, 11:04:29 AM
      Quick reminder: Apparently may distant relative kami na nagka COVID dahil lang sa mabilisang may kinausap na kaibigan somewhere sa labas. Paalala lang to take this crap seriously kahit na healthy tayo; dahil pwedeng pwede mapasa sa mga kasama natin sa bahay na matatanda.

      this one of the things I worry about kaya hindi ako pumapayag pag gusto bumisita ng mga close relatives ko or mga kaibigan para makipag kwentuhan at sina sabi ko sakanila na nag iingat ako sa mga tao na hindi ko alam kung saan nanggaling since may problema na yung baga ko at mas malaki ang chance na severe ang symptoms na maramdaman ko.


      Tama ka diyan sir pero minsan nagiging comfortable na ang mga tao na lumabas.
      Talk about "comfortable" thingy... Have you guys seen this news?

      -snip
      Source: https://www.facebook.com/134752476678442/posts/1945805478906457/

      This Sunday lang 'yan sa may Roxas Boulevard. Look, kung gaano sila ka-comfortable sa ganiyan. Akala mo piyesta or na sa dating Divisoria ka lang  :-\. Literally atat makakuha ng mga litrato ng Manila Bay para may mai-post sa mga Social Media nila eh. Dibale na ata mawalan ng panlasa't pang-amoy, damn.
      Damn, that was a clear " no social distancing". are these people trying to see the white sand put in Manila Bay?
      Sorry guys I'm not familiar since I'm not from Manila.

      I think we have a problem if authority just allow this. Where's the discipline?


      kaya nga eh. I am all for bettering the manila bay pero sana naman ay mas higpitan nila ang protocols nila since expected naman na ng mga LGU maraming bibisita sa manila bay at maraming tao ang pasaway.

      EDIT: just found this news and for those who are wondering, a police station chief was fired for failing to uphold proper safety protocols in manila bay

      https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/20/20/police-station-chief-sacked-due-to-safety-protocol-violations-at-manila-bay


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: mk4 on September 20, 2020, 03:03:27 PM
      Tama ka diyan sir pero minsan nagiging comfortable na ang mga tao na lumabas.
      Can't blame them. Hirap rin ung nakakulong ka sa bahay ng ilang buwan, pero then again, still not worth the risk.

      Sa aming lugar sa province kung saan nandito ako, zero case pa naman kami, merong mga mas cases pero mga LSI at wala namang locally transmitted.
      Congratulations sa lugar niyo. Pero reminder lang na zero confirmed cases lang yan. May decent chance na merong mga may covid sa inyo na hindi lang tested. Probably asymptomatic. Hopefully wala talaga of course.

      Di ko lang nagustuhan is yung mayor namin nag pa live band sa public place, every saturday yata yun at maraming crticism, ewan ko, pwede na ba yan under ECQ?
      No idea, pero safe to assume na bawal dapat. Not because "zero-cases" e pwede na sila magpa-event ng ganun.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: plvbob0070 on September 20, 2020, 04:23:34 PM
      ~snip
      Sa totoo lang, nakakatawa sila na nakakaawa. Sabihin na nating maganda nga ito, although hindi natin alam kung tatagal ba talaga ito o hindi. Pero kahit na ba inopen na sya sa public, it doesn't mean na dapat ganyan ka crowded. Yung mga nagbabantay dapat hindi nila hinahayaan yung ganyan madaming tao kasi useless lang yung mga signage nila about social distancing kasi hindi naman nasusunod.

      At sa mga kapwa nating Pilipino, sadyang pasaway lang din talaga sila. Hindi ba sila makapag antay na umayos muna ang sitwasyon bago nila bisitahin yan. Na kahit alam nilang madaming tao, tuloy pa rin sila. Sarili lang din nila pinapahamak nila.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bL4nkcode on September 20, 2020, 04:35:36 PM
      Hindi naman siguro siksikan dahil live band land habang kumakain ka ng bbq dahil may mga nag bebenta sa gilid, pero for sure hindi maiiwasan na walang social distancing dahil may mga alak ring benebenta.
      Alam ko most place now is naka liquor ban, so violation yan pag ganyan, not sure lang .

      Related naman sa opening ng manila bay, juice colored, pinoy talalaga, walang disiplina, bat kase nakipag siksikan dyan eh tapus walang nagawa autoridad dahil sa kadami ng to, pwede namang pumunta on the next days hindi yung misming opening tao pupunta.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: peter0425 on September 21, 2020, 11:00:39 AM
      Tama ka diyan sir pero minsan nagiging comfortable na ang mga tao na lumabas.
      Talk about "comfortable" thingy... Have you guys seen this news?

      https://i.imgur.com/rHpOmIR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/3HKydRR.jpg
      Source: https://www.facebook.com/134752476678442/posts/1945805478906457/


      Actually andyan din kami hehe,pero di na kami sumugal na makipag halubilo dahil sobrang dami na talaga ng tao at nakaaktakot na ang hawaan.

      at sa nangyaring yan,Ngayon bantay sarado na ang location at mismong sa Overpass na sikat now?pwede ka nalang dumaan pero bawal mag picture or kumuha ng kahit isang shoot kasi andaming
       Pulis at security ang nakabantay.
      at sisitahin or pabababain ka agad pag nakitang pumuporma ka humawak ng cp at mag pict.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Mometaskers on September 21, 2020, 02:56:10 PM
      Sumilip lang uli dito para malaman kung kamusta na mga Filipino members. Meron ba kayong mga kilala ng personal na nainfect?

      Talk about "comfortable" thingy... Have you guys seen this news?

      https://i.imgur.com/rHpOmIR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/3HKydRR.jpg
      Source: https://www.facebook.com/134752476678442/posts/1945805478906457/

      This Sunday lang 'yan sa may Roxas Boulevard. Look, kung gaano sila ka-comfortable sa ganiyan. Akala mo piyesta or na sa dating Divisoria ka lang  :-\. Literally atat makakuha ng mga litrato ng Manila Bay para may mai-post sa mga Social Media nila eh. Dibale na ata mawalan ng panlasa't pang-amoy, damn.

      IMHO quite dumb of people to just go there like there's no pandemic and quite irresponsible of the police to let people build up like that. We're hitting the high 3Ks daily and then magsiksikan pa ng ganyan.  >:(


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on October 19, 2020, 07:46:42 PM
      Virgin Coconut oil for Covid treatment? yeah, you heard that correctly. well, according to the article(quoted below) researchers in the Philippines sees Virgin coconut oil as a potential covid treatment since their research shows that Virgin coconut oil(VCO)  "decreased coronavirus count by 60 to 90 percent at low viral load." and "Researchers also discovered that the compounds were observed to improve cell survival.". according to them. further research, test and experiments are still needed whether higher concentration would lead to better results.

      I am glad that researchers are finding a natural remedy that is abundant in the Philippines as a possible treatment for covid-19. I just hope their research ends up as a huge breakthrough to fight covid-19 here in the Philippines.

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1349580/vco-a-potential-antiviral-agent-vs-covid-19-research-shows


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bisdak40 on October 20, 2020, 01:16:34 PM
      Virgin Coconut oil for Covid treatment? yeah, you heard that correctly. well, according to the article(quoted below) researchers in the Philippines sees Virgin coconut oil as a potential covid treatment since their research shows that Virgin coconut oil(VCO)  "decreased coronavirus count by 60 to 90 percent at low viral load." and "Researchers also discovered that the compounds were observed to improve cell survival.". according to them. further research, test and experiments are still needed whether higher concentration would lead to better results.

      I am glad that researchers are finding a natural remedy that is abundant in the Philippines as a possible treatment for covid-19. I just hope their research ends up as a huge breakthrough to fight covid-19 here in the Philippines.

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1349580/vco-a-potential-antiviral-agent-vs-covid-19-research-shows

      Sa pagkakaalam ko ay matagal na itong napag-usapan ang tungkol dito sa Virgin Coconut Oil na pwede raw maging gamot sa COVID-19 pero until this time wala pang breakthrough sa pag-aaral na yan.

      Ewan ko lang dyan sa NCR pero dito sa Central Visayas particularly sa Cebu ay hindi na masyadong mataas ang kaso ng COVID-19 at sa katunayan ay babalik na ang turismo dito. Sabi ng ilan, magkakaroon daw ng "herd immunity" kaya may proteksyon na yong hindi pa nahahawaan.

      Pero dito sa lugar ko, may bulong-bulongan na magbubukas na yong cockpit arena sa lingo which is for me a gauge on where we are now in terms of COVID-19 transmission.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on October 20, 2020, 08:40:47 PM
      Sa pagkakaalam ko ay matagal na itong napag-usapan ang tungkol dito sa Virgin Coconut Oil na pwede raw maging gamot sa COVID-19 pero until this time wala pang breakthrough sa pag-aaral na yan.

      Ewan ko lang dyan sa NCR pero dito sa Central Visayas particularly sa Cebu ay hindi na masyadong mataas ang kaso ng COVID-19 at sa katunayan ay babalik na ang turismo dito. Sabi ng ilan, magkakaroon daw ng "herd immunity" kaya may proteksyon na yong hindi pa nahahawaan.

      Pero dito sa lugar ko, may bulong-bulongan na magbubukas na yong cockpit arena sa lingo which is for me a gauge on where we are now in terms of COVID-19 transmission.
      I remember that too. but at that time they were only testing it because of the antiviral properties of the virgin coconut oil have but now, they have positive results from the tests they have conducted all these months.

      we are also seeing a drop of cases here in my area(even though a lot of people are not following proper protocols).

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      Sabi ng ilan, magkakaroon daw ng "herd immunity" kaya may proteksyon na yong hindi pa nahahawaan.
      just read an article about it. very interesting. but the DOH still advises following health protocols to "prevent the transmission of the virus and at the same time protect us from getting sick"

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1350389/doh-checking-signs-of-coronavirus-herd-immunity-among-cebu-city-vendors


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Vaculin on October 23, 2020, 11:08:35 AM
      Sa pagkakaalam ko ay matagal na itong napag-usapan ang tungkol dito sa Virgin Coconut Oil na pwede raw maging gamot sa COVID-19 pero until this time wala pang breakthrough sa pag-aaral na yan.

      Ewan ko lang dyan sa NCR pero dito sa Central Visayas particularly sa Cebu ay hindi na masyadong mataas ang kaso ng COVID-19 at sa katunayan ay babalik na ang turismo dito. Sabi ng ilan, magkakaroon daw ng "herd immunity" kaya may proteksyon na yong hindi pa nahahawaan.

      Pero dito sa lugar ko, may bulong-bulongan na magbubukas na yong cockpit arena sa lingo which is for me a gauge on where we are now in terms of COVID-19 transmission.
      I remember that too. but at that time they were only testing it because of the antiviral properties of the virgin coconut oil have but now, they have positive results from the tests they have conducted all these months.

      we are also seeing a drop of cases here in my area(even though a lot of people are not following proper protocols).

      Quote
      Sabi ng ilan, magkakaroon daw ng "herd immunity" kaya may proteksyon na yong hindi pa nahahawaan.
      just read an article about it. very interesting. but the DOH still advises following health protocols to "prevent the transmission of the virus and at the same time protect us from getting sick"

      https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1350389/doh-checking-signs-of-coronavirus-herd-immunity-among-cebu-city-vendors

      I like the positive news, though there's no vaccine yet but we have alternatives. Of course I heard that this one is also a cure to covid-19, however, our experts does not promote that as they all want a medicine coming from the big pharmaceuticals, and the fact na maraming complains regarding covid-19 fraud, I think that destroys the reputation of the doctors a bit, you know the Phil Health scam is still fresh in the minds of the people.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: Tyr808 on October 25, 2020, 02:33:30 AM
      I like Duterte but gotta say this covid thing has been run very poorly in the Philippines. An already precarious economy has been absolutely REKT, middle / low income class in particular - let alone tourism and hotels.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: arwin100 on October 25, 2020, 10:57:26 AM
      I like Duterte but gotta say this covid thing has been run very poorly in the Philippines. An already precarious economy has been absolutely REKT, middle / low income class in particular - let alone tourism and hotels.

      What source are you reading? The mainstream media of those opposition bloggers?

      Since if you keep seeking information on them for sure you will get a misleading info's but if you watch ptv news for sure you will get the information on what government actions made.

      Philippines is not rich country but the president really doing it's best to fight and possibly end up this pandemic it's just the only thing government can do for now since there's no vaccine yet is to lessen the casualty and infected person.

      Also if we talk about economy the government already slowly opening up the tourism industry and I see some promotion of certain spots in the Philippines.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on October 25, 2020, 12:30:22 PM
      Meron ba dito nakakaalam kung may libreng swab testing pa? or lahat may bayad na? Salamat.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on October 25, 2020, 11:39:35 PM
      Meron ba dito nakakaalam kung may libreng swab testing pa? or lahat may bayad na? Salamat.

      here's what I found about free swab test https://www.manilatimes.net/2020/10/26/news/top-stories/fabella-personnel-offered-free-swab-tests/786210/. but other than this I know nothing more. here near in my area, free swabs test has stopped but I am not sure about the neighbouring area. there was a news that the government will pay its debt to red cross. I guess free swabs test will be available soon in a lot of areas again


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on October 26, 2020, 01:50:56 AM
      Meron ba dito nakakaalam kung may libreng swab testing pa? or lahat may bayad na? Salamat.

      here's what I found about free swab test https://www.manilatimes.net/2020/10/26/news/top-stories/fabella-personnel-offered-free-swab-tests/786210/. but other than this I know nothing more. here near in my area, free swabs test has stopped but I am not sure about the neighbouring area. there was a news that the government will pay its debt to red cross. I guess free swabs test will be available soon in a lot of areas again
      un nga din ang balita ko pinatigil daw muna sa red cross, kaya sa nga private hospitals magbbyad pra lang sa swab test, langya libo ang gagastusin para lang dun tapos ang treatment sayo din.
      ilalockdown ko n lang siguro sarili ko for 1 month, sa treatment n lng ako gagastos


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on October 26, 2020, 02:40:13 AM
      un nga din ang balita ko pinatigil daw muna sa red cross, kaya sa nga private hospitals magbbyad pra lang sa swab test, langya libo ang gagastusin para lang dun tapos ang treatment sayo din.
      ilalockdown ko n lang siguro sarili ko for 1 month, sa treatment n lng ako gagastos
      too much corruption sa loob ng PhilHealth kaya di nakakabayad ang PhilHealth sa red cross. kaya nga eh. kaya minsan nakakatakot pa rin lumabas kahit na sobrang maingat ka kasi bukod sa mahal ang bayad sa treatment at may chance kang mamatay sa sakit. meron pang mga tao na di marunong mag ingat at madadamay ka pa sa kapabayaan nila.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on October 26, 2020, 02:46:32 AM
      un nga din ang balita ko pinatigil daw muna sa red cross, kaya sa nga private hospitals magbbyad pra lang sa swab test, langya libo ang gagastusin para lang dun tapos ang treatment sayo din.
      ilalockdown ko n lang siguro sarili ko for 1 month, sa treatment n lng ako gagastos
      too much corruption sa loob ng PhilHealth kaya di nakakabayad ang PhilHealth sa red cross. kaya nga eh. kaya minsan nakakatakot pa rin lumabas kahit na sobrang maingat ka kasi bukod sa mahal ang bayad sa treatment at may chance kang mamatay sa sakit. meron pang mga tao na di marunong mag ingat at madadamay ka pa sa kapabayaan nila.
      naka 50-50 kasi ako gawa din ng asawa ko, yung kawork nya eh hindi pa din sigurado at aantayin pa ang swab result... tapos bukas pa ang sched ng asawa ko para sa swab, kaya sa malamang kung sakali kakailanganin ko din magpaswab, pero yun nga kung dumating man yung worst scenario eh magkukulong na lang ako sa bahay hindi na ako magpapaswab. kumpleto na naman ako ng gamot dito pati antibiotics. magtatanong na lang ako sa kakilala kong doctor.

      Pero sana milagro pa rin na hindi sila mahawaan, ung gastos kasi talaga ang magiging concern dito sa covid hnd yung treatment.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: acroman08 on October 26, 2020, 04:16:21 AM
      un nga din ang balita ko pinatigil daw muna sa red cross, kaya sa nga private hospitals magbbyad pra lang sa swab test, langya libo ang gagastusin para lang dun tapos ang treatment sayo din.
      ilalockdown ko n lang siguro sarili ko for 1 month, sa treatment n lng ako gagastos
      too much corruption sa loob ng PhilHealth kaya di nakakabayad ang PhilHealth sa red cross. kaya nga eh. kaya minsan nakakatakot pa rin lumabas kahit na sobrang maingat ka kasi bukod sa mahal ang bayad sa treatment at may chance kang mamatay sa sakit. meron pang mga tao na di marunong mag ingat at madadamay ka pa sa kapabayaan nila.
      naka 50-50 kasi ako gawa din ng asawa ko, yung kawork nya eh hindi pa din sigurado at aantayin pa ang swab result... tapos bukas pa ang sched ng asawa ko para sa swab, kaya sa malamang kung sakali kakailanganin ko din magpaswab, pero yun nga kung dumating man yung worst scenario eh magkukulong na lang ako sa bahay hindi na ako magpapaswab. kumpleto na naman ako ng gamot dito pati antibiotics. magtatanong na lang ako sa kakilala kong doctor.

      Pero sana milagro pa rin na hindi sila mahawaan, ung gastos kasi talaga ang magiging concern dito sa covid hnd yung treatment.
      I'm sorry to hear that. alam ko na di tayo magkakilala pero let's just hope for the best outcome.

      May nabasa ako article a few days ago regarding sa saliva test. Sabi sa article ay mas mura at mas mabilis daw un kesa sa swab test. Kung kailanagn mo talaga mag pa test. check mo yung possibility ng saliva test.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: bisdak40 on October 26, 2020, 11:59:29 AM
      un nga din ang balita ko pinatigil daw muna sa red cross, kaya sa nga private hospitals magbbyad pra lang sa swab test, langya libo ang gagastusin para lang dun tapos ang treatment sayo din.
      ilalockdown ko n lang siguro sarili ko for 1 month, sa treatment n lng ako gagastos
      too much corruption sa loob ng PhilHealth kaya di nakakabayad ang PhilHealth sa red cross. kaya nga eh. kaya minsan nakakatakot pa rin lumabas kahit na sobrang maingat ka kasi bukod sa mahal ang bayad sa treatment at may chance kang mamatay sa sakit. meron pang mga tao na di marunong mag ingat at madadamay ka pa sa kapabayaan nila.
      naka 50-50 kasi ako gawa din ng asawa ko, yung kawork nya eh hindi pa din sigurado at aantayin pa ang swab result... tapos bukas pa ang sched ng asawa ko para sa swab, kaya sa malamang kung sakali kakailanganin ko din magpaswab, pero yun nga kung dumating man yung worst scenario eh magkukulong na lang ako sa bahay hindi na ako magpapaswab. kumpleto na naman ako ng gamot dito pati antibiotics. magtatanong na lang ako sa kakilala kong doctor.

      Pero sana milagro pa rin na hindi sila mahawaan, ung gastos kasi talaga ang magiging concern dito sa covid hnd yung treatment.

      Sorry to hear about your situation paps. Napagdadaanan ko ring yang mga quarantine na yan dahil din may katrabaho yong misis ko na nag-positive tapos lahat ng close contact nong nagpositive ay isinwab kasama na yong asawa ko buti nalang negative lahat ng resulta.

      Sa sitwasyon mo paps, kung positive yong asawa mo sa swab (knock on wood) kailangan mo rin magpa-swab dahil close contact ka at kung positive ka sa virus pwede ka naman na mag-home quarantine, 14 days lang yon at pagkatapos ay considered recovered ka na.

      Kailangan mo lang magpalakas ng katawan, uminom ng vitamins C, saktong tulog at exercise, yong ang ginawa ko at very effective naman siya sa akin. Huwag na huwag kang magpapatalo sa stress, kung kailangan mo ng kausap, tawagan mo pamilya mo, humingi ka ng advise sa kanila. Lilipas din yan lahat.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: peter0425 on October 26, 2020, 01:03:47 PM
      Meron ba dito nakakaalam kung may libreng swab testing pa? or lahat may bayad na? Salamat.

      here's what I found about free swab test https://www.manilatimes.net/2020/10/26/news/top-stories/fabella-personnel-offered-free-swab-tests/786210/. but other than this I know nothing more. here near in my area, free swabs test has stopped but I am not sure about the neighbouring area. there was a news that the government will pay its debt to red cross. I guess free swabs test will be available soon in a lot of areas again
      un nga din ang balita ko pinatigil daw muna sa red cross, kaya sa nga private hospitals magbbyad pra lang sa swab test, langya libo ang gagastusin para lang dun tapos ang treatment sayo din.
      ilalockdown ko n lang siguro sarili ko for 1 month, sa treatment n lng ako gagastos
      Sa pagkakaalam ko hindi covered ng red cross ang Free swab testing sa fabella hospital dahil Manila City government ang sumasagot nyan.
      di ko lang sure kung applicable to sa lahat ng Pinoy pero priorities nila ang mamamayan ng Maynila.
      and also ang alam ko last September eh nag declare si Mayor Isko ng Mass Swab testing for Free kasi down pa yong website di ko mapasok para maishare dito.


      Title: Re: [MEGATHREAD] Pilipinas Coronavirus/COVID-19 Thread
      Post by: cabalism13 on October 26, 2020, 02:38:40 PM
      Meron ba dito nakakaalam kung may libreng swab testing pa? or lahat may bayad na? Salamat.

      here's what I found about free swab test https://www.manilatimes.net/2020/10/26/news/top-stories/fabella-personnel-offered-free-swab-tests/786210/. but other than this I know nothing more. here near in my area, free swabs test has stopped but I am not sure about the neighbouring area. there was a news that the government will pay its debt to red cross. I guess free swabs test will be available soon in a lot of areas again
      un nga din ang balita ko pinatigil daw muna sa red cross, kaya sa nga private hospitals magbbyad pra lang sa swab test, langya libo ang gagastusin para lang dun tapos ang treatment sayo din.
      ilalockdown ko n lang siguro sarili ko for 1 month, sa treatment n lng ako gagastos
      Sa pagkakaalam ko hindi covered ng red cross ang Free swab testing sa fabella hospital dahil Manila City government ang sumasagot nyan.
      di ko lang sure kung applicable to sa lahat ng Pinoy pero priorities nila ang mamamayan ng Maynila.
      and also ang alam ko last September eh nag declare si Mayor Isko ng Mass Swab testing for Free kasi down pa yong website di ko mapasok para maishare dito.
      yun nga lang para lang yata sa manileno ang free swab, saklap lang taga rizal ako, wala pang kwenta mayor dito... medyo nakakaumay din kapag nagpaswab, dahil yun nga sa mahal mahal ng babayaran mo eh para lang yun malaman kung positive o negative ka, tapos ang treatment same pa rin naman at sagot mo pa rin. Kaya dapat talaga kung sagit din ng tao ang mga sarili nila dapat gawin na lang libre ang swab test.



      Btw, nag ready na ko ng (ANTI-COVID) MedKit ko just in case:
      -DayZinc Vitamins (Vitamin C with Zinc)
      -Difflam Tablet (Sorethroat)
      -Strepsils (Mild Sorethroat)
      -Bactidol (Sorethroat)
      -Biogesic (Headache, Fever)
      -Mefenamic (Pain Relief)
      -Amoxicillin (Anti-biotic)
      -Salonpas (Muscle Pain)
      -Robitussin DM (Dry Cough)
      -Cinnarizine (Antihistamine)
      -Salbutamol (Asthma)
      -Zykast (Shortness of Breath)
      -Amlodiphine (High Blood)

      (Lahat ng naka prepare ko dito eh mga dati ko ng natake, ugali ko kasi na kapag nagpapareseta ako inaalam at tinatandaan ko kung para saan para sa susunod alam ko na 😅 )