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I've been into Bitcoin for quite a few years, and I'm impressed to see how far it has reached in the mainstream world. It's the most widely-adopted cryptocurrency for decentralized payments worldwide without the need for a middleman. In its current state, Bitcoin works wonders for ordinary people like you and me. It's only a matter of putting the right BTC address and the number of coins to send to get started using the Bitcoin blockchain.

However, my concern is how blind people are able to get used to Bitcoin? To my knowledge, wallets (either with a GUI or CLI) don't have "text-to-speech" features to make blind people's lives easier. It'd be great if developers keep blind people in mind to help increase the adoption of the pioneer cryptocurrency in the mainstream world. The only thing I've found is an audiobook of the Bitcoin whitepaper which is a great solution to introduce blind people into the "mechanics" of Bitcoin.

Any thoughts? ???

even after all these years people that are not blind also cant use bitcoin 100% correct . this evolution takes time to be fit in normal ways first.and after everything get normal and work normal (for example paying a coffe with crypto or buying milk with crypto wallet) then this tech can get upgrade and go to other step to be usable for everyone .first step is to everyone use crypto in all around the world then new project and solutions will come to be useful for blind people also. 

Great idea however it lacks of something a driver for developers to come up with it. What I mean is the idea comes off too short, it would be that problematic at all because just think if it becomes real then what do you want for blind people to do then? Go out and spend their bitcoin? would not it be better if they have a company with them? I think it be a nice idea for digital wallets to make a sound (custom sound) for every expenditure. If this go real, then everything that revolves bitcoin should adjust too. imo.

Check out this project that goes over the wallet part: https://icywallet.com/ with a combination of ADA tools like screen readers they could visit an exchange's website to buy or trade coins. There are guidelines like WCAG here: https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG21/quickref/ that go over accessibility. I'm unaware of any exchanges are trading platforms that have incorporated this into their offerings, maybe someone else can chime in here.

Been reading about icywallet for quite some time now and I don't think why there isn't much interest towards the project. Little to almost no assistance for blind people is required to operate the thing, since it uses braille keyboards and audio to assist the visually impaired in operating his/her wallet. The main question that runs through my head though is how would a workaround be possible for reading a long string i.e. address? If, say a 'tag' is used for an address, how would the visually impaired know that it was not rigged in any way?

Let alone for new innovations like this, facilities and other general services are still not optimal in providing services to people with disabilities. Of course, if there are developers who care about this it will surely give equal opportunities to disabled people to enjoy Crypto world. Although difficult, it does not mean impossible.

I think a new device should be added to Blockchain technology, for all these blind people, where there is a need for any kind of online service, including the message Subject, as I talk about two things - first of all, 1: Crypto currency transactions, 2. Bank through. Transaction
How to make the device now, and how the blind man will deal? Answer: The device will be shaped like a mobile, so that a speaker, a small display, and a button, if the button is slightly larger, it is better to press the blind man's hand. As soon as the device is turned on, the device will tell the blind person through the spreaker that the blind person wants to transact, if the blind person says that he or she is Crypto currency  wants to make a transaction, then Crypto will take the currency stept, so that every step has to be added to that device, as if the blind person is directed to everything, and he hears the blind man say that he will do it, then the device itself. Go there, and the next step is to tell the blind man, the blind man will say his choice, like Addres, Amount, say the device will collect it, then the device will warn Amount what Sen will do if  Say yes, say Amount to hear Amount, Cancel to cancel the order. In many ways, I just give my idea that things would be more beautiful.

Well, the real problem for blind people is the Accessibility from a blind person perspective that he could see his Blockchain wallet more clearly and using the screen reader platform that lets you hear the words into audio so you can surely know how to transact and how many Bitcoin you had and so many other option but this is not enough because there are other features that are not really audible for this kind o application including the multiple sending to other Bitcoin address, it is still pretty hard for them to see it clearly,

Well this is the story of Craig McGee a blind that has Mine Bitcoin from his home however it is really not easy being a visual compared but thanks to the Braille project McGee has a chance in seeing more clearly read this ARTICLE (https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-accessibility-from-a-blind-persons-perspective/) and yes maybe this is the same as the IcyWallet SeaBits had mention because this Article is dated from Oct, 25 2017,

So I think there is already a project for the Blind to also engage with Bitcoin transaction without any problem.

I don't think that Crypto Currencies like Bitcoin will be suitable to buy necessities like coffee's or milk and for me, it's just waste, because the price of Bitcoin could rise up and soar high and it shouldn't be wasted for buying things that can be bought with fiat in my own opinion.

It was great for the blind people having some opportunity here in crypto but believing that there are difficulties when performing this one unlike if you are just a one-yed person or crippled one. I can't a tool that could help them to function as normal traders or investors. These all possible with the help of other people who can guide them, not by doing it alone.

This will definitely be a great future and crypto in its entirety is still at the infant stage. When we have a transaction with a user's unique identity like email, phone or other means without the long string we have in wallet, then it will become easier to do text to speech if implemented eventually.

Not all blind people live alone, and there are different levels of blindness:

20/30 to 20/60 : is considered mild vision loss, or near-normal vision
20/70 to 20/160 : is considered moderate visual impairment, or moderate low vision
20/200 to 20/400 : is considered severe visual impairment, or severe low vision
20/500 to 20/1,000 : is considered profound visual impairment, or profound low vision
More than 20/1,000 : is considered near-total visual impairment, or near total blindness
No light perception (NLP) : is considered total visual impairment, or total blindness

Those that can see with some visual impairment would have a better chance to use the technology than those with NLP. People that fall into the NLP category could have a caretaker, friends or family who has introduced them to bitcoin. This would simplify some of these processes if done properly and hopefully with trust. According to some research 25 million around the world are using bitcoin. There is an estimated 39 million blind people in the world (doesn't say what levels they are) and lets say only 10% of them use the internet or have the resources to do so, that would leave us at 3.9 million users. There is no research on what amount of the users are using any cryptocurrencies but I was able to locate a post from 2014 at about an actual blind person attempting to use a wallet and saying his JAWS screen reader was in-compatible (sources: 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ufacn/bitcoin_wallets_are_inaccessible_for_blind_people/ 2. https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-needs-accessible-visually-impaired) Since then I have found nothing in the recent years. I guess you could also bring up the topic that if their screen readers are compatible with exchange websites they could buy and store the coins there, but we all know how that's going to end.

Bitcoin is a program and can be subject to tons of modifications and customization if consensus approves it. That's the beauty of Bitcoin because it's open source anyone can contribute ideas to help those who are disabled like the blind to be able to use.

It has tons of developer all over the world im sure if some programmer introduces this idea it would be implemented.

Bitcoin for blind people is quite possible if there would be new technology that will be created by our IT experts. Well technology evolves, there are already some technology for blind people, it serves as their thing to express their opinion, that is how technology can give to us. So I think this techbology will be also provided to blind people to use bitcoin, if that things happen, iy would be great because as we all know bitcoin is such a safe haven and it helps so many people. So if blind people would try it using technology that will be created by IT experts they will see how good bitcoin is.

Explain to blind peoples regarding bitcoin or bitcoin technology is quite easy but real use by them is almost impossible. Although there isn't huge amount of blind peoples who want to involved with bitcoin but it would be a nice idea if someone would make a new technology for blind people's. I have real life example on my family, my father almost blind (can't read anything even via power glass), I have explained him regarding bitcoin. He know there is a virtual coin which is called bitcoin. But unfortunately he is unable to use it. I don't if there will be something new in near future to use bitcoin for blind people.

You should read this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222338 (dunno if you search before you create a new thread and didn't found this). Then wait for similar suggestions and discussion pop-up here. After that, lock this thread.

That won't be the end of it. Soon we might see "Bitcoin for cats/ dogs/ llamas/ aliens" topics too.

Seriously, I have tried to imagine this in some different ways to see whether it would be possible, but the way I see it, it would be difficult to achieve. But anyway, nothing is impossible, you just have to believe that it is possible to do whatever it is and then work hard towards it.

Cryptocurrency addresses are always a very long combination of numbers and letters. Even if it was possible to input a touch and read feature into these cryptocurrency wallet apps, I am wondering how these people will be doing all that, like copying the address of the receiver and then pasting and sending and stuff. Let's just wait until then.

Well, Bitcoin and altcoin cryptocurrencies are a great idea as an alternate payment because it works like an E-wallet. This program has plenty of advantages though it also has disadvantages. In a world where all transactions can be done online, bitcoin and altcoin cryptocurrencies are perfect to use. Indeed, there are also countries where online transactions are not yet widely spread especially in rural areas of those third world countries. Likewise, --blind people may not be able to adapt easily on this program because of insufficient assistance using technology. Perhaps it takes time for them to adopt and it needs months or even years.

What we interact with are wallets and it's wallet that are not friendly to blind people. But that might not be the case always as bitcoin gets more popularity. Bitcoin's official wallet is also an open source project and I don't think we could see a text to speech feature or a braille friendly feature anytime soon. A third party, that could even be us who thinks of that group of people should work on creating one.

There are a lot of great innovations today that was invented for people with disabilities scuh as blind people, that is why they manage to get into the trend to use laptops and smartphones. But to be honest, there will be some things that will be complicated for blind people to understand and adopt cryptocurrency and blockchain technology, especially trading and crypto wallets are not user-friendly for blind people because how can they watch the market charts and look at the value if they can't see.

It is indeed difficult but not impossible although it will require a text-to-speech if the visually impaired person is using. Of course, there's always a way to make things possible for them but someone should fund this kind of project to let the blind people to do trading. The fact that it looks as a handicap already to them I won't say that a blind traders won't make a mistake if the voice is unclear. I can only think a lot of trial and errors for this to possibly happen in the future.

We know that cryptocurrency it's not just like a physical money that can possibly store on a bank, that why it is more risky and unsecured in terms of storing online. But there are ubiquitous way to store this cryptocurrency with the use of hardware wallet, like Ledger Nano and Trezor.

But this is the main problem if there are some blind crypto enthusiast who are willing to work in crypto world. For this issues there are group of people developed a new way of securing crypto currency that help blind people who wants to secure their crypto currency.

This #Icywallet really helped people to engage themselves in crypto currency without doubt and hesitation. https://bitcoinist.com/creating-worlds-first-bitcoin-wallet-blind/

Probably the 2nd time that I've seen this kind of topic was made. But it has a point that bitcoin should also be accessible by them.

Interesting.

I think I've seen this too on that topic before.

Let's see if huge corporations and known crypto companies, exchanges and other manufacturers will apply this idea to their next editions.

Bitcoin and other crypto currencies are not yet ready to serve everyone as it needs to solve first it's problems like what you have mentioned, blind people can't use bitcoin yet if it will implemented as the main payment system. That is only one of many problems that bitcoin will face in case it will be use as main payment someday.

If we are going to compare the fiat and bitcoin, fiat will be a lot simplier for blind people to use compare to bitcoin even if it can provide a mechanics that will convert speech to text and vice versa. But a solution will likely to be provided in the near future where everyone can easily use bitcoin and other currencies without any difficulties as we are continuing to develop our technology.

The @OP want to make a suggestion about the bitcoin use by the blind people and today it is not capable to suit this kind of development because today the use of the bitcoin is into the world of the Internet even we have a lot of devices that supports the people with disability like the sensor it is hard to make a speech program to make some trading and investment to the market of the bitcoin as we see it takes a lot of learnings and experience before we get some earnings into bitcoin also you must need to monitor the market graph also the movement of the coins, some how if the person can handle the speech voice only to make trading it is good but if it is not it can be stressful to the user to make investment on bitcoin to the thing they did not see if the movement is good or not still it is in the capability of the developer and the group project if they want to push this kind of movements.


This kind of project will takes time to make because it is all about voice activation and also the infrared sensor to make sure they will really help the users to do the thing they want to their bitcoins.

Assisting the visually disabled is a user interface related issue. It's the wallet that should come up with the solution be it a simple text to speech reader or a wallet based on hotkey. Even the external accessibility software for visually disabled can help them use the wallet. With the adoption of bitcoin increasing, we could expect someone would come up with some ideas to assist them.

Your take for a visually impaired friendly wallet is great. I would just like to add that, actually, Windows comes with a Text-To-Speech system (bundled with it Assistive feature) - officially known as Narrator. It is able to read webpages and read aloud the current selected widget. With that, I believe that web-based wallet (such as CoinSpace^) are already friendly enough for the visually impaired - considering that they have much more experience in using the Narrator feature already.

* I tested out the Narrator on CoinSpace and it is not that accurate. However, take into consideration that the visually impaired will most likely be used to it already (or that they are using some other proprietary software with more accurate result).

It is very relevant and important problem that any startup can engage at a very low hardcap, exchanges and escrow company can also look into it. The idea will be on the solution to communication with all users and security of their coins. Like every financial institution they might need first acquaintance with third party before the confidentially in later. It is important the currency is available for everybody for use and transaction irrespective of their physical inabilities.

Bitcoin is really helpful for everyone in this world, we have so many things got from this bitcoin, so I think learning bitcoin would be really good for everyone, there are already some schools that are planning to have a cryptocurrency program which is really good to have.

Bitcoin for blind people can be also possible because there are so many technologies that are meant to used by blind people to express their feelings or the things they want to say. It would be great if there would be technology that will be created to help blind people to access bitcoin or other cryptocurrency.

Indeed, if there would be technology that will be created by some developers or some programmers, I think it would not be enough because eyes are the main used part of our body in cryptocurrency. If there would be technology for them, it will still be hard for them to access bitcoin.

I don't agree that. Already there are technologies who help people with very bad sight or who are blind to use computers and internet so.I don't see why would there be any difference with cryptocurrencies. All people, even disabled ones in any way need to have the equal rights and access to new technologies. In.some countries there are also laws about it.

Thanks, mate. This is very useful. At last, a developer has taken the effort to make Bitcoin accessible to blind people. With Satoshi's ambitions of making Bitcoin useful to the world, this is a pretty big achievement. The basic part of sending/receiving Bitcoin transactions for blind people should suffice. At least, blind people can interact with the BTC blockchain thanks to this project. But the real deal would be exchanging Bitcoin to Fiat or any other cryptocurrency via a centralized or decentralized exchange. I'm not aware of any exchange that's friendly for blind people, so that's something that needs to be solved in the future.

Considering that there's still a lot of work to be done, the only way blind people will be able to truly use Bitcoin nowadays is with some human assistance. It's hoped that as popularity for the pioneer cryptocurrency grows, developers will be interested in creating an infrastructure for the visually-impaired. The "IcyWallet" project is genius work, as it allows any blind person to interact with the Bitcoin blockchain with ease. I'm beginning to wonder how BTC addresses will be read by the wallet itself? Setting a label for an address or something simple where the blind person would understand, could prove to be quite convenient for the end user. I'm sure the dev will come up with a solution for this, if it hasn't been implemented yet. ;)



That's something that needs to be "tackled" with, if developers want blind people to use Bitcoin securely. At some point, human assistance will be needed to verify the authenticity of the wallet. It's the only way to know that it's not been "rigged" in any way. The "IcyWallet" developer could simply make the software speak a unique code that would let the blind person know the same is authentic and not modified in any way. At least, better something than nothing. This wallet may have some issues, but it seems to do its job pretty well. As long as the developer continues to work on it, flaws will be mitigated over time. Let's support this project in order to help increase Bitcoin adoption for the visually-impaired. :)

I think bitcoin is not really design for everyone, just like online banking that has been adoption for a long period of time but they don't have that kind of feature, blind people just need to get assistance from people they trust. Well, we can't say that the current set up would not be improve but I'm not sure if there's anything it can add to the nature of bitcoin now, probably a 3rd party if they'll developing something for the blind people, then they can get use of it, but it's currently not the priority I guess as there are a lot of alternatives like the aforementioned.

Basesd on my research A Kentucky-based developer named Adam Newbold is on a mission to build a unique hardware wallet designed specifically for the blind. The wallet is currently under development and its called IcyWallet. The project was able to raise $1,986.75 in Bitcoin to translate Satoshi Nakamoto's whitepaper into braille and that will be cool! BTC for everyone!

That is nice and will be good if you provide us the link to this information.
Blind people make up the world popular and taking them along will add up to adoption rate.

As much as I support your idea, but I think the current adoption of Bitcoin isn't enough motivation for developers to create a specific program for blind people.  I believe the current priority of developers is for the perfection of Bitcoin blockchain integration for the more important matters that will give a greater impact on worldwide adoption.  Possibly when all these needed things are implemented, it is by then developers will focus on developing application for specific groups of PWDs.

that's a very noble act! but why this project raised only small amount of money? i hope this is just a start-up funds for this project. it would take a while to develop this project. and once this wp converted intro braille, the problem is about the wallet itself. how are they going to handle it?
 but anyway, technology will find a way how to realise these things. and hope Newbold is successful with his mission.

to check the current updates on icywallet -
https://icywallet.com/

most articles were published in 2017 -
https://www.ibtimes.com/developer-making-first-bitcoin-wallet-blind-2618126
https://coolblindtech.com/developer-making-the-first-bitcoin-wallet-for-the-blind/
https://bitcoinist.com/creating-worlds-first-bitcoin-wallet-blind/

I don't know, I think it will be difficult to implement. Of course, you can use the voice dialing function, but again, how to track transactions and how to understand whether you entered the name of the wallet correctly, vedt are huge codes, and not just 12 digits as on a normal credit card. In my opinion, this is difficult to implement now.

The concept is nice but here remains some questions.The whole process is  covered with a lot of problems. although,it will be a very good thing if blind people can live with crypto currency.The Point is crypto is easy but secured so blind people can not co-operate properly with crypto currency earning and currency spending by themsleves.

Bitcoin is free for all people, especially for those who are willing and dedicated to engage to it.

This is a good idea so that anyone can access it and there's no such thing that could prevent them from investing on bitcoin. No matter what your situation and disabilities are as long as you are willing to deal with the market, you can do it. Especially that our technology nowadays are really advanced and still in development so it is really not impossible to see this kind of adoption.

This is a problem that must be found a solution, so that Bitcoin can really be used by everyone.
I am sure that there are more and more Bitcoin users and many countries have accepted Bitcoin.
There will definitely be a tool that can help blind people make Bitcoin transactions without the help
of other people. But now the best solution for blind people is with the help from normal people
around them.

maybe there will be obstacles if it is done by a blind person because they need help by a normal person where it can be ascertained that the confidentiality that should only be for him personally but eventually is known by the helpers. will the person not cheat later? although it may be the family itself because when it is called money it is difficult to understand and explain there is always a conflict of interest.

there are blinds that can see partially or only blind by one eye and not the other  . these people can operate thier own btc account without the help of others except if they are starters and they have things running on thier mind that they cant understand  . we that are normal or dont have disabilities do also ask questions or asking for a helping hand about btc so why not them  ? for those that are blind that cant totally see , they must only pick people that they really know such as thier family because they need special help such as account logins  .

For me the idea is good, but it would be definitely difficult. Maybe they just need someone really close to them to guide them, a trusted person those who will not take advantage of them. As long as the person is willing to learn and can accept the risk of anything could happen, he can do it. And because of our new technology today that's why it will not be impossible to happen that kind of adoption.

That's actually a good point. I never considered a blind person owning such wallet because I assume that they will have an administrator for their property or investments. Well, having an administrator always has the risk of committing fraud so investing a wallet that caters to such disability will be definitely helpful.

If they were to add a text-to-speech feature to a wallet, hopefully they also add extra security so not all people can have access or hear it  as that would be very counterproductive their end.

I do support that idea and think it's insane but it does require a lot of changes to make it fit the most

This is an absolutely excellent idea. I however think it will take some time for such life changing idea to be adopted if at all implemented. This is because the focus is still channeled towards making even the able bodied, I mean those that are not blind, adopt bitcoin.
It's an excellent idea but I do not think now is the time for it. A lot of measures have to be put in place for this to work. There have to be extra security measures for the wallet of the blind people in order to avoid theft by those who hear them when they use the text-to-speech feature

That was certainly a great idea and that was pretty impressive to think if that would be possible to make happen to find ways on how blind people could be able to make use of crypto currency like Bitcoin on their daily life basis. The idea was really kind of advance and futuristic to take concern on how every individual can do access the usage and adaptability of using crypto currency which includes the blind people having disability which adds more complexity for we ordinary people are having mistakes on doing transactions for one mistake in address could lead to sending to another wallet so how about them lacking of capacity to see what they would be doing. I think it is really very challenging in nature and for the developers to create a blind friendly feature that can help blind people to make use of Bitcoin. It is a futuristic thought that might be very difficult to execute and would take a lot of time. Inch by inch anything is being made possible by the modern technology, let us just see if this idea would be possible to make happen in the near future that there would be a feature suitable for blind people to make use of Bitcoin.

Yes, that's right. It may be very difficult for them to use and also manage access to Bitcoin. Moreover, there will be some difficulties in:
1. Creating the BTC wallet, including storing the wallet address, private keys, and other personal crucial data.
2. Accessing the Bitcoin wallet will make it a way for trading or something else.
3. Managing their assets in wallets or exchanges.
So far, I also never know such information that supports the difficulties of them.
If they intended that the other people will help them, I think that it is also too risky because it includes very basic personal data. But because of this weakness, probably only a few blind people that come to the crypto world. Except that they have other people who are very trusted like their family and help them to use BTC.

Well, the interest to have bitcoin is not limited even to the blind or whatever disability that one has can't stop the interest to have bitcoin.

However,  people with disabilities had different priorities or needs and that will depend on their interest of things that could make them living a  good life. These type of people should be given chances to make things comfortable for them especially if they themselves are doing for their own and not being dependent to anyone.

I have seen person with disability at the same time a bread winner. Shame on those who scam and did not make their own living as like what these disabled person do. People who are scam are worst than disabled person.

There's a lot but having Bitcoin is totally different, not even those people who have no disability can perform well and understand it, how much more to a blind person? What is the sense of having Bitcoin if they can't even use it for their own?

I'd never think about reality when it comes to this situation. It is sorry but they are less fortunate and not have time for this than enjoying their life what they feel. We don't need to give them stress thinking about investment or anything, this is not at their comfort. And this Bitcoin is only for ordinary people who can clearly understand this, not for them.

Like with most things in live, businesses will first develop software for the biggest target market and then when the market gets saturated, they would start adapting the product to offer special features for the disabled.

The technology is still very new, so it will not cater for all the needs, but as time goes on, people will see where the additional needs are and they will create plugins for these wallets to cater for the blind or visually impaired.  ;)

If you look at the solutions provided for blind people to handle cash notes, like the small money identifier cards.. then you would understand that third party providers would quickly see a gap in the market and then develop something for that market.  ;)

There are some percentage of our community that represent Blind people and some of them are professional and can afford to be in crypto if given a chance.

So this is a Good thread OP to give them at least attention since we need to gather more and more investors here in our market.

i think this is possible but hard to initiate because of technicalities but with the help of technologies behind crypto?
for sure Blind people will be on our line of investing.

Hopefully sooner as the market really needs another set of investors so even Person With Disabilities are needed.

We still have plenty of rooms for improvement and Bitcoin isn't really going to replace Fiat anytime soon.
It is just sad that with all the hype and good things that is going on crypto some people couldn't really get into it because of their disabilities even if they want to.
It is hard to trust your money with others so I understand that they want to keep it on their own so they doesn't have a choice but to ignore crypto even if they want to invest in it.

That's the another problem why bitcoin is not fully adopted by all people and country. There's a lot of things need to consider. It's not the same with fiat currency that even blind people can still recognized despite of their disability. But I believe that someday experts in crypto specially in bitcoin can make a solution for this.

first and foremost is, how can blind people understand about bitcoin. Blind people have a very sharp sense of touch and hearing, that means to explain the content about bitcoin is by voice and braile.

Anyone can dictate the bitcoin whitepaper and upload it to a sharing website which blind people can listen to. It is easier than we all make copies of the bitcoin whitepaper for a blind person to touch using braille code.

For transactions themselves, it is possible that there must be a tool that combines voice and braille on the device. Can use braille for input, then voice for output information.

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You can check out this article to understand more about the new innovations in bitcoin for the blind people Bitcoin Accessibility From a Blind Person's Perspective (https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-accessibility-from-a-blind-persons-perspective)

After so many years we are seeing that the bitcoin is continuously growing and it's a community as well. Bitcoin is the biggest cryptocurrency that is running and occurring in the market, this probably because of those people who have been continue supporting it. If I will be able to go back to the past I will continuously support bitcoin and buy it.

This is an interesting topic I was also wondering how could a blind people be able to access Bitcoin, text-to-speech could be easily be implemented.
But the thing is that the Bitcoin is not fully legal around the world and just started to recognize to be a currency to be accepted as a mode of payment,
we could wait for a few years on what will happen to Bitcoin and hopefully it can be accessible to anyone.

ya.ya.yo!

Thumbs up for this one. It is indeed easy to introduce what cryptocurrency and Bitcoin is. They can understand how it works through an explanation. However, the main problem is they capable to use it? can they use make transactions through with it? probably they can if they have someone can help with them but I don't they can if they all alone by themselves. That is why I hope for developers would come up with an idea of giving such privilege for non-ordinary people to use this kind of innovation as well.

This makes me wonder how they will be able to fully used Bitcoin safely/privately, control their keys/coins without exposing them to people, etc .
Not all blind people for example will be able to afford hardware wallet but all can certainly afford papers and other cheap materials for writing/storing their keys. If you use audio to read out the keys, hackers could be listening to through the devices unless maybe you have some special devices for this, which could easily be expensive.
I think you could encrypt the keys and print them out in braille form, then use some sort of DIY external decryptor made by themselves or for them to decrypt the keys. Or you could have application that could divide onscreen keys in different parts for the blind to gradually snap with camera and print with printer, then rejoin together physically.

I think it would be hard for blind people to access bitcoin because one of the main body that we are using for the cryptocurrency is our eyes, we cant use well any technology without sights but we have here the Assistive Technology(AT) which helps people to access technology.
It can fix their problem. https://www.levelaccess.com/understanding-assistive-technology-how-does-a-blind-person-use-the-internet/

This is kinda new to me but I agree. Since technological innovation is way faster than before, perhaps in the near future we'll see more opportunities for people with disabilities to have easier access with bitcoin just like us. Maybe if crypto gets more attention to the public, we might see more development for them to also get into bitcoin regardless of their disabilities. But I think if they really want to enter the crypto space, it's best to have someone they can trust to guide them since it's more challenging for blind people to adopt bitcoin.

I think this idea is very good for blind people to know the development of cryptocurrency in the future and introduce it, but I'm not sure all blind people will understand how to use cryptocurrency by explaining it, because it is very difficult for blind people to understand how cryptocurrency works for them and I'm afraid they don't be able to properly store their security keys in the future.

I haven't think this far though, I saw that there are still plenty of adjustments for bitcoin to be fully accepted in the future but I didn't see this coming where I totally agree on how the blind people can use crypto currency or bitcoin in the future if in case crypto currencies will likely to replace fiat.

Blind people can easily identify fiat especially if they have master it already but it will be very difficult for them to use a crypto currency, a text to speech feature will likely to help but I am not so sure if how they are going to add it while maintaining the security of every crypto wallets.

If implemented it will be an innovative idea because it will not only make the blind people to get involved in cryptocurrency cause it will make older people which seems to believe crypto to be too hard to understand and to use get involve in crypto investment but good security must be created so if won't be a situation where by they will be hacker victim.

Introducing bitcoin to the average person is inherently difficult, but for a blind person, it is even more difficult. They may listen to some podcasts, but they will not be able to directly experience Bitcoin.
I think that trying to introduce Bitcoin to the blind is somewhat laborious and impractical.

Adding text-to-speech to a wallet would be nice, but rather challenging to implement on a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin. Imagine the wallet speaking the private key out loud. Another person could hear it and use that same key to unlock the blind person's funds. Earphones could be used for this purpose, but I wonder how secure the whole setup will be against malicious actors. At least, the idea is there. Making it a reality is another story. Considering that blind people are the minority, developers don't feel the need to create a Bitcoin wallet suitable for these kind of people. Most blind people usually have an assistant which do all the things for them. They can simply delegate their Bitcoin to someone trustworthy enough to handle their wallet for them. This brings the middleman which crypto was meant to avoid in the first place, but it's the only way for blind people to get access to Bitcoin right now.

All in all, there may be far more important things to focus on than simply making Bitcoin accessible to people with disabilities. Once Bitcoin handles its own issues (mainly scalability), then developers might focus on bringing blind people to the crypto space. If there's enough interest into making a wallet software with accessibility features for blind people, developers will make it happen one way or another. Otherwise, blind people will be left out of the game. Let's hope everyone's priorities is put first, in order to make Bitcoin widely adopted in the mainstream world. Just my thoughts ;D

They should know that bitcoin does exist in the market, being blind is not a hindrance for people to become successful.

If they are knowledgeable about it and someone made a platform for those blind people to access bitcoin, then that's a good adoption. We have a lot of developed platforms right now, some apps can be accessed by only a voice speech, text-to-speech, so it is not a hassle for them anymore. Also guidance can be a way so that we can help person with disabilities to experience bitcoin in an investment.

Cryptocurrency is a must to invest because there's a lot of good impact into it and it can really make people's lives become worth it.

Vision impairment is quite complicated in blockchain industry. However, we can't really say what a blind person can do in order to succeed in life. I've seen a lot of blind men anywhere having a successful family and their condition seems just nothing when it comes to competing/fighting through their life's journey.
As for Bitcoin issue, i guess there is someone who could create, add some features or made an innovation that can easily be access by blind people. The world is going to be cashless and virtually driven transactions, so i think everyone(w/ no exemption) needs to practice this kind of industry with user friendly features,  including the blind people of course and other PWD's.

You know, it is really a big problem for blind people to use lots of things and services, and of course to keep their finger on pulse with the rapidly developing world, and the BTC, crypto and Blockchain are not the exception. Lots of things are oriented on the ordinary people who can react rapidly first. After adoption of masses different products and directions may be adopted to the needs of people with disabilities. But the problem is not in wallets only. What if such a person got some BTC but what to do with them after? How to trade on the exchanges, for example? Too many things should be technically equipped with the voiced function or support.

Bitcoin is definitely the most widely-adopted cryptocurrency for decentralized payments worldwide

Yes and sad to say that blind people couldn't use it like any other currencies that they could.
Developer should also try to create something that would help the blind ones use crypto so they would have a chance like everybody had.

Many investors has testified how Bitcoin has turned their business for good. Bitcoin is a decentralized to the world.It take the blind ones to know,that Bitcoin is real for development and economy growth of a country.

There should be a company that can set up that can help the blind to understand Bitcoin because it is also a market worth exploring, not only blind but also hearing impaired people, Bitcoin is for everyone and people with disability should also have access and knowledge on how to use Bitcoin, they might even adopt it faster than other people who choose to ignore Bitcoin.

This is a money vs blind people scenario. AFAIK, technology on blind people has already begun and there are plenty of innovations are still on the making.

One of the project studies here in our university is object detection and classification, one of the common studies for blind or visually impaired people is through this with a lot of data to train. Those data are all of the objects in common areas where blind people usually go so it can determine the objects beside him. So my idea in this kind of project that is related in cryptocurrency is to have a specific device that will notify you of the market value changes, transactions, amount of bitcoins through buttons and numbers that act like Siri.

It should be like this.. press the upper button for BTC value... press the lower button for transaction... it is like an automated device that talks to you.

I am afraid it will be not easy to fulfil. It should be a special equipment for a blind person to monitor the websites, even in case it will be some voice bot that will inform about the price of the exact token or coin, there still will be a need in someone's help to set it up. And there is a high risk to lose data or assets. Or, for example, how to get the lear understanding of the situation on the market - not general, but how to make the analysis of the concrete situation of the concrete coin at the interested period of time and so on. But it would be a real know-how in case it would be achieved.

The fact they are blind doesn't affect their ability to understand Bitcoin. They are maybe blind but not stupid. They can read and learn about it as well as of any other things. Also, today there are laws and recommendations in many countries for web sites to be adapted for blind and other disabled or people with other difficulties so I don't see obstacles for blind people also to use Bitcoin.

You know what bitcoin is for everyone. It doesn't matter if you are a kid, an adult, boy or girl, with disability or not as long as you can use technology and you know how to operate a computer, laptop, phone or any other gadgets that you can use when trading here.

This is not a completely correct statement, since computers for the blind are a separate area of technology and it is very specific in its device. If, for example, typing a simple text for a blind person is not a big problem (since there are special keyboards, as well as voice dialing), then making a payment from one bitcoin wallet to another is a more time-consuming process and involves many different small actions that are practically impossible for a blind person at the moment.

You are right! They do able to hear and it would really be just simple for them to learn via audio and understand on whats bitcoin is all about.
When reading then they can always make use of those traditional tactile writing system if there would be one which wouldnt be hard.
It doesnt really matter if you are visually impared or other disabilities it cant really stop people to learn or do know about bitcoin.

I'm not against with it but for kids? and people with disabilities? I think that will take long for them to taste how bitcoin work on our imperfect world. We are not taking them away what's technology that is in front of us, but it is difficult for them to understand what is bitcoin especially for blind people, they cannot work on it alone. As for all the disability, being blind is the most critical one  :(

As it's said in the real world, "when there's a will, there's a way". There's nothing stopping developers from creating wallet software for Bitcoin with accessibility features for blind people. It's just that developers are focused on other important things like scaling the Bitcoin blockchain and keeping it secure. Considering that blind people are the minority, changing wallet software for them wouldn't make any difference in mainstream adoption. At least, the idea is there. Making it a reality, is another story.

I've stumbled across a Bitcoin whitepaper translated to "Braille" language for blind people. This is quite an advancement as it introduces such people into the crypto revolution. But it's still not enough. I'm guessing that if developers add accessibility features into Bitcoin wallets, some sort of text-to-speech mechanism will be implemented. Now, the tricky part is speaking out BTC transactions, amounts, and even keypairs through this system. It'll be quite a challenging task, but not impossible. Since Bitcoin wallets are more suitable for the average person, blind people will simply delegate someone to manage their coins for them. It brings the middleman (which crypto was meant to avoid in the first place), but at least it's a workaround. Let's hope blind people are included in the Bitcoin movement, in order to increase mainstream adoption as much as possible. Just my opinion :)

Im not really sure if blind person can work with bitcoin,  maybe they understand what bitcoin is but how they can apply it knowing they can't see anything . How would they type in a keyboard?  Unless there is somebody to do this for them. Yes if somebody help them to work with mostly when it comes of selling the token and need to input the wallet address,email,etc. They had to make sure that they typing the right wallet address.

Braille keyboards 🎹.  Voice recognize software etc.

Yeah you've raised a good point and we as a community need to look into this issue. Bitcoin isn't meant just for the privileged but for people from all walks of life.

There is no prohibition against blind people owning Bitcoin, but the problem is not easy for blind people to make transactions with Bitcoin.
It is true that now there are tools that support blind people to access the internet, such as braille keyboards, screen magnifiers, text to
speech software, etc. But still errors can occur, especially regarding Bitcoin transactions, if we make a mistake it can result in us losing
the Bitcoin we have. My advice is that blind people should be accompanied by someone to make Bitcoin transactions.

That is why this topic is created at least for sharing of ideas how Blind people can use crypto even if they are with disabilities .

and since we are in Computer age now,there is no impossible to happen and created.

Maybe they can create a finger print or something in similar for the blind to have full access and control of their crypto assets.

the Good thing is people like normal has a concern about blind and they will benefit from this.

I agree with you. Maybe in the future there will be a new innovations here in Crypto currency world that cares about the persons with disabilities. Yes, its not impossible especially that the world now is fully digitalized and there were lots of experts/genius in technology nowadays. And hopefully this blind people will be given a chance too, to work and earn here in crypto industry.

The problem is the difficulty on how they could apply their learning for bitcoin. One idea that I could think is to user their fingerprint as biometrics to create their personal wallet. Their biometrics will enable the system to recognize their private key and public keys. Because for blind people, braile system in bitcoin will make it hard for them to transact. Meaning, the use of voice recognition will be of great help to make transactions in Bitcoin.

Here's an article (https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-accessibility-from-a-blind-persons-perspective/) concerning this discussion.

This is a concern but not an immediate one since the market group in comparison to the main stream is rather small. Some would think from reading this that this is deliberate inequality but as a business one has to focus on its target market.

At the same time, this is a whole which provides an opportunity if one wishes to invest into it. Because of the large financial implications, I fear not many investors are prepared to do that just yet, but as digital currency becomes more common I'm certain some will start thinking about inclusion properly.

There are certainly ways to do it like the 'text-to-speech' recognition feature alas something more flexible would be required and only with the right market research one can start predicting and testing. The other thing to consider is that perhaps this target audience isn't so interested due to luck of knowledge so perhaps for now the better option is to produce more audible content where they can learn more about BTC and blockchain.

Maybe blind people will be having hard time while setting up their wallet and it is nearly impossible for now but in terms of spending we can still make it possible with QR code scanners or crypto debit cards but until now not much place to spend our cryptos so I believe there will be some technology to assists the blind people to live normal life as everyone.

In the nearest future developers should be able to transform the braile machine used by the blind for tracing and reading of documents into an app which might possibly enable them to set-up a wallet, and do other crypto related stuffs without any hindrance, its very possible with high tech and artificial Intelligence all these put together can be channeled into an idea of creating the machines for visually impaired although the technology will be highly sophisticated and very expensive.

At all which of the blind are we emphasizing on,is to be myopic in terms of bitcoin or cryptoccurrency or typically blind. Because its obvious that a blind human can't partake in bitcoin transaction except it has money and people is managing its wealths into bitcoin,creating a special pioneers that will enable blind to understand the concept of bitcoint is very difficult.

Those who are disabled or blind have their own way of learning things. We cannot understand or imagine how they will understand bitcoin and other new technology but they will still be able to not only learn about bitcoins but also use it in their daily life.

As far as I know, adapting current wallet software for blind people will be quite a challenging task. Since people with such a disability are the minority, developers don't care more or less in adding accessibility features to Bitcoin. It's a shame since it reduces Bitcoin's level of adoption in the mainstream world. Only people that are able to see can use Bitcoin for day-to-day transactions. If someone blind is still interested in Bitcoin, he/she would need to put someone in-charge of his/her funds. This brings back the middleman (trust), but it's the only way blind people will be able to access Bitcoin.

At least, there's a version of the Bitcoin whitepaper written in Braille. Blind people can know what Bitcoin is all about, but they cannot use it directly for their own benefit. If Bitcoin's popularity continues to increase, it's hoped that developers take into consideration people with disabilities in order to make the pioneer cryptocurrency more decentralized than ever. Everything will depend on people themselves. If people don't pressure developers to build a tool that would facilitate Bitcoin transactions among blind people, everything will remain the same. The community's voice needs to be heard in order to make Bitcoin the best cryptocurrency in the world. Just my thoughts ;D

This is very difficult to discuss because people with low vision must wear glasses especially those who cannot see, of course there is no need to talk about it anymore, blind people are very difficult and in my opinion there is no more discussion to discuss, blind people must have other people as helpers explaining the meaning of bitcoin is not easy. Even normal people with good eyesight find it difficult to understand Bitcoin. That's not condescending, not my point, but the truth is it's very difficult to understand bitcoin.

There is an app where you ask strangers for help and they guide you on what to do, I forgot the name of the app and it is pretty helpful for the blind community. The app utilizes the camera feature of the phone to help, one example is a blind person checking whether the milk is expired, they can use the voice command for the app and strangers will accept the tasks and become their eyes for awhile.

The current dilemma on how to make bitcoin accessible to blind people does not have a simple solution, blind people utilize their other senses like feel or touch while bitcoin is electronic which means there will be limitations like TTS which can sometimes be faulty. Braille system is the best solution that is not fully utilized when it comes to bitcoin project development.

You've raised a good concern there, op. It would be pretty challenging for the developers though. But we're now in the modern era so there will surely be someone who can think of a solution to that concern. Braille system can be used for them. I've read an article[1] that btc's white paper is written in Braille for blind people. The same article includes an interview of a blind bitcoin user who said that he doesn't believe that "developers think about disabled bitcoin users." Maybe it's time for that to change and consider our visually impaired fellas in the development of bitcoin."

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[1]https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-accessibility-from-a-blind-persons-perspective/

It will be harder but it can,i believe that experts are going into this now though they cannot focus because the demand of crypto for Disable is not that [popular now.
In future when there are many of blinds and other disable person demand for this then why not?
for now let us just use this thread as sharing of ideas and opinion about How.why,what and when Blind has to be in crypto also.

Braille will work best in helping blind people get access to Bitcoin. Right now, we have all of the required tools to make Bitcoin accessible to everyone worldwide. The problem lies on developers themselves, as they haven't put people with disabilities in mind. Without a proper system for blind people to get access to Bitcoin, they'll be left out of the game. No one seems to care since blind people are the minority. They might as well delegate someone to manage their Bitcoin balances than doing so themselves. It's a workaround, but not a remedy to the current situation.

Time will tell us what lies ahead of Bitcoin's adoption in the mainstream world. I'm hoping that everyone's voice gets heard, making Bitcoin a better cryptocurrency for all. If it becomes extremely popular, developers will most likely include blind people into the ecosystem. Just my opinion :)

I think that bitcoin has not yet reached such popularity and mass use to think about blind people. Bitcoin has many other problems, it may not sound very good, but more important problems. But I am sure that in the future the developers will think about it for sure.

bitcoin for blind people may be a bit difficult to realize because in my opinion if using voice is likely to reduce the level of security
using a brailer is also not possible
I think bitcoin is not suitable for blind people at the moment, there are too many factors to consider when developing related to this

For now, bitcoin accessibility for visually impaired people is far more difficult than how normal people can access it but, as the technology continues to grow, it is now possible that some wallets or sites can have that speech-to-text feature. Developers can create a read out loud feature for the disabled people. There will always be a way to help our blind friends access bitcoin. I saw an app named "Be my eyes" that help these kind of people in their everyday life and I think it can also be used when accessing bitcoin though it requires a lot of trust.

I think it be a decent thought for computerized wallets to make a sound for each consumption. Bitcoin has numerous different issues, it may not sound awesome, yet more significant issues. Yet, I am certain that later on the designers will consider it without a doubt. The gadget will be formed like a versatile, so a speaker, a little presentation, and a catch, if the catch is marginally bigger, it is smarter to press the visually impaired man's hand. I have clarified him with respect to bitcoin. He know there is a virtual coin which is called bitcoin. In any case, tragically he can't utilize it. I don't if there will be something new in not so distant future to utilize bitcoin for daze individuals. Like each monetary organization they may require first associate with outsider before the privately in later. It is significant the cash is accessible for everyone for utilize and exchange independent of their physical failures. There will consistently be an approach to enable our visually impaired companions to get to bitcoin. I saw an application named "Be my eyes" that help these sort of individuals in their regular day to day existence and I figure it can likewise be utilized while getting to bitcoin however it requires a great deal of trust.

That's actually a great topic since it is known that more people are actually creating stuffs for Blind people to get a more user-friendly environment when using technology. Maybe some people can coordinate on how we can introduce cryptocurrency to people with disabilities and how it can help them? in some way. Its also cool to see people using that keyboard for blind people since some of them are really good at it.

It'll be challenging (but not impossible) to make Bitcoin wallets accessible to blind people. The main issue would be preserving security when using text-to-speech features on the wallet. Imagine hackers being able to intercept the audio allowing them to obtain the private key or mnemonic/seed of a blind person's Bitcoin wallet. It'll greatly compromise the security of a person's funds. I think that developers will somehow find a way to mitigate this issue. As I've said before, everything will depend on demand more than anything else. If most Bitcoin users aren't blind, then there would be no reason for developers to integrate accessibility features on wallet software. So far, I haven't heard of a blind person that's interested in Bitcoin. If no one with disabilities is interested in Bitcoin, then everything will remain the same way as it is right now.

All in all, there's more to Bitcoin "than meets the eye". Developers would need to solve other issues first, before thinking of making Bitcoin accessible to all. Once privacy and scalability issues are solved, then we might be able to see wallets adopting accessibility features in the future. Until that happens, blind people will need to delegate someone to manage their Bitcoin in order to participate in the decentralized economy. Just my opinion :)