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Title: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 19, 2020, 03:45:32 PM
We saw a lot of scams in 2019. As we prepare for what’s sure to be an exciting 2020 for cryptocurrency and the world in general, let’s take a look back at the various scams and schemes that Cointelligence reported on last year.

Click here to read more:
https://www.cointelligence.com/content/crypto-scam-recap-2019/


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: julerz12 on April 21, 2020, 01:09:39 AM
We saw a lot of scams in 2019. As we prepare for what’s sure to be an exciting 2020 for cryptocurrency and the world in general, let’s take a look back at the various scams and schemes that Cointelligence reported on last year.

Click here to read more:
https://www.cointelligence.com/content/crypto-scam-recap-2019/
Seeing as your posts mainly consist of links pointing into such website, I say this is a shill post.  ::)
Also, isn't it a bit late for you guys to be doing a recap of what happened in 2019? Isn't that usually done at the end of the year and, not in the 2nd quarter of the following year? LMAO
Well anyways, I did hope for 2020 to have more successful and legitimate projects but seeing as the entire world is currently facing a pandemic and at the same time, scammers are also on the rise (COVID19-related scam projects), I say, not much is changing.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 21, 2020, 05:56:53 AM
We saw a lot of scams in 2019. As we prepare for what’s sure to be an exciting 2020 for cryptocurrency and the world in general, let’s take a look back at the various scams and schemes that Cointelligence reported on last year.

Click here to read more:
https://www.cointelligence.com/content/crypto-scam-recap-2019/
Seeing as your posts mainly consist of links pointing into such website, I say this is a shill post.  ::)
Also, isn't it a bit late for you guys to be doing a recap of what happened in 2019? Isn't that usually done at the end of the year and, not in the 2nd quarter of the following year? LMAO
Well anyways, I did hope for 2020 to have more successful and legitimate projects but seeing as the entire world is currently facing a pandemic and at the same time, scammers are also on the rise (COVID19-related scam projects), I say, not much is changing.

Do you really think there is a time limit on warning people about scams? ;)


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: Winscosinally on April 21, 2020, 03:06:01 PM
Not bad and yes it's not too late to warn people about scam projects but your list is so short, many projects turned scam in that year and few scam projects from 2019 are still running as we speak e.g IMO fundraising platform


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 22, 2020, 06:30:40 AM
Not bad and yes it's not too late to warn people about scam projects but your list is so short, many projects turned scam in that year and few scam projects from 2019 are still running as we speak e.g IMO fundraising platform

It is a list of scams Cointelligence called out in 2019, it doesnt say its a list of all scams in 2019 ;)


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: sunsilk on April 22, 2020, 11:42:15 AM
It's a good article for people that wants to see a recap of those scams in the past. I have a simple suggestion which I think would be greater if you will re-arrange those projects/companies altogether and compile them.

Just sort them and organize for the summary, what do you think?

For example:
  • Sample 1
  • Sample 2

Because usually readers do read those summaries and look for the compilations.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 22, 2020, 01:13:08 PM
It's a good article for people that wants to see a recap of those scams in the past. I have a simple suggestion which I think would be greater if you will re-arrange those projects/companies altogether and compile them.

Just sort them and organize for the summary, what do you think?

For example:
  • Sample 1
  • Sample 2

Because usually readers do read those summaries and look for the compilations.

This is a great suggestion. I will discuss it with the team. Thank you.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: sunsilk on April 22, 2020, 02:38:57 PM
It's a good article for people that wants to see a recap of those scams in the past. I have a simple suggestion which I think would be greater if you will re-arrange those projects/companies altogether and compile them.

Just sort them and organize for the summary, what do you think?

For example:
  • Sample 1
  • Sample 2

Because usually readers do read those summaries and look for the compilations.

This is a great suggestion. I will discuss it with the team. Thank you.
You are welcome.

You have a great content which is going to be helpful for someone, I mean for everybody who's looking and doing research for these kinds of project to ensure that they're on the right website or service that they're about to take.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: milewilda on April 22, 2020, 02:56:36 PM
It's a good article for people that wants to see a recap of those scams in the past. I have a simple suggestion which I think would be greater if you will re-arrange those projects/companies altogether and compile them.
~
Because usually readers do read those summaries and look for the compilations.
Yeah its quite boring to read up the whole thing without any summation and do completely have that each input..As sunsilk suggested then this would make a bit easier where people can directly read up
when its on list form.Also, im glad that you included this one "YoBit is an awful exchange, too" . You never go wrong with this one and should really be included on 2020 list. LOL!
Those things listed are the major ones but it is just a small part if we do talk or mention all of the stuffs happening into this market when in the talks about scams but i still appreciated the effort.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: plast555 on April 22, 2020, 05:37:16 PM
The article listed the Wirex sale a scam but it's really unfair selling the coins at 2x the price than the Okex IEO price the reason they stated may be right but for that, they should have adopted only the token locking for some specific period rather than having both the locking and the 2x price


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: shoreno on April 22, 2020, 08:57:35 PM
nice site . i just visit it and found out that you also have other features not just pointing out scams    .

on the link i can see that most of them are not really new    . some names are familiar on me and i can still recall them if what they do on the past but some cant really be called as a scams  . they are still operating anyway   .   what i really expect are new coin , ieo , ico's  but i see most are on the list are
 exchanges but they are all related to crypto category anyway  .


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 23, 2020, 07:19:02 AM
nice site . i just visit it and found out that you also have other features not just pointing out scams    .

on the link i can see that most of them are not really new    . some names are familiar on me and i can still recall them if what they do on the past but some cant really be called as a scams  . they are still operating anyway   .   what i really expect are new coin , ieo , ico's  but i see most are on the list are
 exchanges but they are all related to crypto category anyway  .

Thank you for taking the time to review. Correct we are calling out scammers as much as possible but our main focus is blockchain and crypto education.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: sunsilk on April 23, 2020, 07:55:53 AM
It's a good article for people that wants to see a recap of those scams in the past. I have a simple suggestion which I think would be greater if you will re-arrange those projects/companies altogether and compile them.
~
Because usually readers do read those summaries and look for the compilations.
Yeah its quite boring to read up the whole thing without any summation and do completely have that each input..As sunsilk suggested then this would make a bit easier where people can directly read up
when its on list form.Also, im glad that you included this one "YoBit is an awful exchange, too" . You never go wrong with this one and should really be included on 2020 list. LOL!
Those things listed are the major ones but it is just a small part if we do talk or mention all of the stuffs happening into this market when in the talks about scams but i still appreciated the effort.
I know that I'm not the one that can feel the vibe of thinking that there's something missing within the construction or the style of the article. I'm not an article creator but I do usually read articles and to sum up those lists like this, there's always the shortcut form of the compilation.

Maybe another content can be made by op or the writers of that website about the Q1-crypto scams. I think it's another valuable content that they can create while staying at home in these quarantine times.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 23, 2020, 01:32:31 PM
It's a good article for people that wants to see a recap of those scams in the past. I have a simple suggestion which I think would be greater if you will re-arrange those projects/companies altogether and compile them.
~
Because usually readers do read those summaries and look for the compilations.
Yeah its quite boring to read up the whole thing without any summation and do completely have that each input..As sunsilk suggested then this would make a bit easier where people can directly read up
when its on list form.Also, im glad that you included this one "YoBit is an awful exchange, too" . You never go wrong with this one and should really be included on 2020 list. LOL!
Those things listed are the major ones but it is just a small part if we do talk or mention all of the stuffs happening into this market when in the talks about scams but i still appreciated the effort.
I know that I'm not the one that can feel the vibe of thinking that there's something missing within the construction or the style of the article. I'm not an article creator but I do usually read articles and to sum up those lists like this, there's always the shortcut form of the compilation.

Maybe another content can be made by op or the writers of that website about the Q1-crypto scams. I think it's another valuable content that they can create while staying at home in these quarantine times.

Thank you for your comment! I sent it to our editor.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: fortunecrypto on April 25, 2020, 04:11:27 PM
We saw a lot of scams in 2019. As we prepare for what’s sure to be an exciting 2020 for cryptocurrency and the world in general, let’s take a look back at the various scams and schemes that Cointelligence reported on last year.

Click here to read more:
https://www.cointelligence.com/content/crypto-scam-recap-2019/

Very informative but the list was short, I like reading the scam section, various projects has their own way on scamming people, how they are caught and how they are defending themselves from the allegations, there's so much arguments and drama when these scammers tried to defend their project but always end up losing the arguments.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: pealr12 on April 25, 2020, 10:55:34 PM
Not bad and yes it's not too late to warn people about scam projects but your list is so short, many projects turned scam in that year and few scam projects from 2019 are still running as we speak e.g IMO fundraising platform
i also joined on IMO bounty campaign and after recieving the reward on the app i must use the token to buy other coins on thier platform , i failed to use it thats why they remove my tokens , imo project waste my time.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 26, 2020, 12:08:18 PM
We saw a lot of scams in 2019. As we prepare for what’s sure to be an exciting 2020 for cryptocurrency and the world in general, let’s take a look back at the various scams and schemes that Cointelligence reported on last year.

Click here to read more:
https://www.cointelligence.com/content/crypto-scam-recap-2019/

Very informative but the list was short, I like reading the scam section, various projects has their own way on scamming people, how they are caught and how they are defending themselves from the allegations, there's so much arguments and drama when these scammers tried to defend their project but always end up losing the arguments.

Indeed. For example there are still people from Onecoin or Karatbars arguing with us about the fact its an obvious clear scam and in some cases they are calling us the scammers and in some exterme cases they are also sharing fake stories about us trying to scare us away so we will stop calling out scammers.

One of the biggest problems with scam victims (victims of scams who become the scammers themselves convincing people to join the scam) they are sure they are billioners by now while the scam is worth zero. I had cases of people approaching me at events asking me again and again if I am sure and even if I show them clear evidence they find it difficult to believe it as they are invested in the scam so much (money or time) and they dont want to believe they have been scammed!


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 26, 2020, 01:16:51 PM
Not bad and yes it's not too late to warn people about scam projects but your list is so short, many projects turned scam in that year and few scam projects from 2019 are still running as we speak e.g IMO fundraising platform
i also joined on IMO bounty campaign and after recieving the reward on the app i must use the token to buy other coins on thier platform , i failed to use it thats why they remove my tokens , imo project waste my time.

Sorry to hear that ;(


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: leea-1334 on April 27, 2020, 06:11:53 AM
I remember reading in 2018 about a scam list that had some projects in there where the team was still in existence and still listed and still ongoing, I guess you can say the same thing about your list, which is why some teams are running against you.

I think we have to first define exactly what is a scam to make it clear.

Just because a company has not run away with money does not make them NOT a scam,,, right?

So that is my suggestion,,, make a definition for what you see is a scam first:)


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 27, 2020, 10:34:22 AM
I remember reading in 2018 about a scam list that had some projects in there where the team was still in existence and still listed and still ongoing, I guess you can say the same thing about your list, which is why some teams are running against you.

I think we have to first define exactly what is a scam to make it clear.

Just because a company has not run away with money does not make them NOT a scam,,, right?

So that is my suggestion,,, make a definition for what you see is a scam first:)

Sorry but you are wrong!

We never call out a scam without clear evidence. The "teams" running against us are trying to undermine our credibility or make us stop fighting scammers but that doesnt work for them.

The "teams" running against me so far are LATOKEN, Karatbars and Nick Ayton who are obvious scammers without any doubt. You should review the evidence we shared and if you are still not convinced feel free to raise any concerns / doubts and we can discuss it.

We can start a discussion about the definition of scam or how Cointelligence is defining mini scams which are not obvious scams as we call them and we can also discuss the difference between a scammer and a corrupted person and so on but please dont confuse the fact that obvious scammers are "running against me" and its not because they might not be scammers which is not the case for sure.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: royalfestus on April 27, 2020, 11:00:35 AM
I remember reading in 2018 about a scam list that had some projects in there where the team was still in existence and still listed and still ongoing, I guess you can say the same thing about your list, which is why some teams are running against you.

I think we have to first define exactly what is a scam to make it clear.

Just because a company has not run away with money does not make them NOT a scam,,, right?

So that is my suggestion,,, make a definition for what you see is a scam first:)
Last year put a different view for scam in the space; we saw more exit scam yet coin on big exchanges and trade on speculation , exchange hack with inside team members involvement. Scam in ICO was more of not getting exchange but now they get listed and proceed to flooding token in market and manipulation at varying level. We are still suffering from the bad sentiment from the scam both from ICO and exchanges


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on April 27, 2020, 01:16:17 PM
I remember reading in 2018 about a scam list that had some projects in there where the team was still in existence and still listed and still ongoing, I guess you can say the same thing about your list, which is why some teams are running against you.

I think we have to first define exactly what is a scam to make it clear.

Just because a company has not run away with money does not make them NOT a scam,,, right?

So that is my suggestion,,, make a definition for what you see is a scam first:)
Last year put a different view for scam in the space; we saw more exit scam yet coin on big exchanges and trade on speculation , exchange hack with inside team members involvement. Scam in ICO was more of not getting exchange but now they get listed and proceed to flooding token in market and manipulation at varying level. We are still suffering from the bad sentiment from the scam both from ICO and exchanges

There is a difference for sure because there are no ICOs these days but the ICO scams were replaced mostly with IEO scams which are are controlled and managed by scam exchanges among others.

There are too many non regulated exchanges who had an exit scam and I am afraid we will see more of that.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: tukagero on April 27, 2020, 04:10:57 PM
I remember reading in 2018 about a scam list that had some projects in there where the team was still in existence and still listed and still ongoing, I guess you can say the same thing about your list, which is why some teams are running against you.

I think we have to first define exactly what is a scam to make it clear.

Just because a company has not run away with money does not make them NOT a scam,,, right?

So that is my suggestion,,, make a definition for what you see is a scam first:)
Last year put a different view for scam in the space; we saw more exit scam yet coin on big exchanges and trade on speculation , exchange hack with inside team members involvement. Scam in ICO was more of not getting exchange but now they get listed and proceed to flooding token in market and manipulation at varying level. We are still suffering from the bad sentiment from the scam both from ICO and exchanges

There is a difference for sure because there are no ICOs these days but the ICO scams were replaced mostly with IEO scams which are are controlled and managed by scam exchanges among others.

There are too many non regulated exchanges who had an exit scam and I am afraid we will see more of that.
so what will you expect , scams are everywhere as long as there is huge amount of money  involve scams cant be  defeated. Not only ico and ieo are scams ,even exchanges too.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: Bezobraznike on May 18, 2020, 12:15:57 PM
We saw a lot of scams in 2019. As we prepare for what’s sure to be an exciting 2020 for cryptocurrency and the world in general, let’s take a look back at the various scams and schemes that Cointelligence reported on last year.

Click here to read more:
https://www.cointelligence.com/content/crypto-scam-recap-2019/

   Nice article, thanks for sharing this! As it's stated in article people should be really careful where they
deposit money, in which exchange, and extremely careful when investing in IEO's on shady excganges.
   Many fake projects, scams are everywhere around. I am careful and non of this scams didn't affect me
and I hope I will make good decision in the future too. Good research, talking with other people, taking
advises from experience people are needed if you want to avoid making mistakes, with one word research!


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on May 19, 2020, 06:32:37 AM
We saw a lot of scams in 2019. As we prepare for what’s sure to be an exciting 2020 for cryptocurrency and the world in general, let’s take a look back at the various scams and schemes that Cointelligence reported on last year.

Click here to read more:
https://www.cointelligence.com/content/crypto-scam-recap-2019/

   Nice article, thanks for sharing this! As it's stated in article people should be really careful where they
deposit money, in which exchange, and extremely careful when investing in IEO's on shady excganges.
   Many fake projects, scams are everywhere around. I am careful and non of this scams didn't affect me
and I hope I will make good decision in the future too. Good research, talking with other people, taking
advises from experience people are needed if you want to avoid making mistakes, with one word research!

Thanks!


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: rudin123 on May 20, 2020, 03:38:41 AM
There is a difference for sure because there are no ICOs these days but the ICO scams were replaced mostly with IEO scams which are are controlled and managed by scam exchanges among others.

There are too many non regulated exchanges who had an exit scam and I am afraid we will see more of that.
for that must always be careful in investing, always choose projects with top exchanges such as binance, okex and others, because if they do IEO in a large market means the project is good because registering IEO in a large market is not easy


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on May 20, 2020, 05:03:42 AM
There is a difference for sure because there are no ICOs these days but the ICO scams were replaced mostly with IEO scams which are are controlled and managed by scam exchanges among others.

There are too many non regulated exchanges who had an exit scam and I am afraid we will see more of that.
for that must always be careful in investing, always choose projects with top exchanges such as binance, okex and others, because if they do IEO in a large market means the project is good because registering IEO in a large market is not easy

Agreed but with regards to the well known exchanges you mentioned they wont discolse the information so no one really knows if funds were actually raised and if they were what are the exact amounts. At least we havent seen any evidence until today.


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: JaoBadjap on May 22, 2020, 03:49:06 AM
im just sick and tired of scam.
its really deflecting to the whole crypto world.
which for some reason doesn't attract new people and branding crypto as a scam in overall


Title: Re: A recap of 2019 crypto scams
Post by: onyavin on May 22, 2020, 05:58:59 AM
im just sick and tired of scam.
its really deflecting to the whole crypto world.
which for some reason doesn't attract new people and branding crypto as a scam in overall

For sure. I need to explain people we are not all criminals and there are good people in the industry actually trying to change the world.

But there are new people coming in dont worry it will change ;)