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In this interview of Anderson Cooper to Las Vegas' mayor Carolyn Goodman, the head of the city insists that the Vegas should re-open the casinos and restaurants for the welfare of its people. Especially those depending on the said establishments in order to get some money to feed their family. While the reasoning for the city's reopening is with good intention, the reasoning isn't sound and clearly done due to the urge of emotion. Anderson even went so far to ask the mayor if she would be willing to stay every night on casinos wherein the workers and the gamblers would be staying just to prove that she is 'with them' in their plight against coronavirus.

If the persistence of the mayor proved to be worthwhile and the city reopens, would you, as a gambler, be willing to get inside one of the many casinos and play there?

Bad idea of course. I do not think any responsible citizen consider them to go there. Besides, I do not think outsiders will feel the interest to go now and spend time in casinos. Maybe some local dumbasses will find a way for them to entertain in the empty casino.

It's true that businesses are struggling, employees are struggling but going back to a life where there will be gathering of people is dangerous now until we have a vaccine.

Of course not, it is a selfish decision. I understand that the reason why they want to open the casino is that Las Vegas depends on the gambling industry, this is where they get their taxes. However, take note that if they open casinos it will be full packed by people which will put their city at risk. Many people will die due to the virus. Everyone is struggling financially, but this will not solve it, it will only put people's lives at risk.

Yes many people will die because of corona virus unless they will re-open their casino but they will also support online gambling so gamblers don't have to go to the casino until the issue about corona virus is no more before they let the physical casino open again. Re-opening the casino is a bad idea at this time so online is the best choice they got as of now.

I was expecting this was the old thread with more than 5 pages about the mayor of las vegas who wants to reopen their city for business. But this is new.  

I'm still going to be seeing her views as her being confused weighing whether she wants to feed her people by reopening the city and risking them to the virus or just locking them down til they die.

Haven't been following the developments of the lockdowns in the US since I'm not living there anymore but with this statement, apparently the Vegas mayor is notorious on releasing statements such as this. The idea of her offering Vegas residents as the "control group" to this entire thing makes me angry, as this is clearly disregarding the safety of the residents and workers in exchange for the retention of Vegas' status as a gambling capital in Nevada. Idk, her views regarding the matter are plainly absurd. I wonder how her advisers and her team thinks and feels about her statements on this certain interview..

Who knows what is possessing (the Mayor of Las Vegas) at this time, so he is determined to open the casino to the public, where many countries are currently closing down casinos and other public places to prevent the increasing number of victims infected with the CV-19 outbreak.

If the decision of the LV mayor is determined to start opening a casino in his area, this factor the community itself must think about joining to play or not, in general the public knows CV-19 can be infected through direct touch etc, if people think that this has a bad effect you should avoid visiting the casino for a while, so really the deadly plague is gone and normal as before.

I think if people who remain determined to go to Kekasino and lead to death from the effects of the plague, I'm sure many will oppose the mayor's decision later, so that it will end up closing again and vice versa if safe does not occuranything, maybe it will continue.
But with the current state of LV mayor's decision, it is a bad decision.

I wont definitely trust my life even shes the mayor and did tend to be with us inside of a casino.It doesnt guarantee anything because virus doesnt care on who you are or where you are.
Once its spread then theres no exception.We know the motive on why she do suggest that thing but at the same time this is a selfish suggestion.Why? It would surely make up the situation
even more worst and this will even more lengthen the duration on said lockdown or quarantine.Its much better to hold into the current position and resume up things
when everything is cleared out.

The union as far as the news says rally against her will to reopen the city.  This is politics, she wouldn't suggest reopening if no one is behind it. Just watching her talk makes it look like she isn't the authority.

The bosses of the casinos are going to be blamed by the angry mob if they starve, it has to appear in the media the mayor decides all these things. Whichever is the final decision, the owners of these casinos and businesses like hotels who really run this show will, of course, pass the blame to the mayor saving them from the angry community including the employees.

They are all lockdown there, they got nowhere else to go. The angry mob can attack the houses of these owners of the businesses if they will. 

I do not think that his decision is for the welfare of the people.  We all know that the pandemic is not under control, his decision will only endanger his constituents.  I just can't think of any reason why open casinos and restaurants but the income that she thinks the city will gain, and I believe it is not enough to risk her citizen since money can be earned while life lost is already lost.

If you would ask me if I am willing to get inside those casinos, I would say, I'd rather play it safe and play at home through online gambling.  Excitement and entertainment can wait and health and our family's safety must be our priority.

I guess we already have a thread about this one, not only the casinos though but also the stadiums for baseball and more.


It is really a bad idea for normal people however as a mayor She's up for something. I've read she does not have the power to order these businesses to reopen, what they have is only the guidelines prior to businesses that wants to open amidst the crisis. We know Las Vegas is an expensive city you'll find hotels, restaurants, clubs every where and that's the main point of them to reopen, the heart of Las Vegas lies to those businesses. As a mayor, I don't think it's not worth letting them to reopen, and as if people wants to go clubbing?

They will know the effect of this decision maybe few months after.
Though they will have precautions to be exercised because of this opening.
You can't tell who are silent carriers among this crowd.
So this decision is really a risk that whatever outcome will be, they should be responsible of.

Practically speaking, I would not play into any casinos in Las Vegas even if the re-opening of casinos would happen because as a player, I should also be community wise that we are still into a pandemic on which mass gathering must be prohibited and we must just stay indoors to lessen or to stop the spread of the virus. Playing on a casino these days will not be a good idea because of the situation we do have right now. Although I get the point that he is just concern with the welfare of his people, but still it will not be a good thing to do because their lives will be at risk for working on a place where many people will surely go and play. Better do support them temporarily just what like our government is doing here in our country so that even people do not have jobs because of this pandemic, still they can be able to sustain their needs to survive this crisis.

Most likely no, it's not worth going out even if they had less active cases. It would've been fine if it was only restaurants and stores that's needed so their people won't have problems in getting resources every now and then but if it's everything I wouldn't be surprised if cases started to increase the next few weeks.

Both decisions have pros and cons but imo this is probably the worst one because like what was mentioned on the interview it could affect the other states. The other decision would cause their people to starve but there could've been a workaround to that.

I thought, will he be responsible for what is likely to happen to his citizens or people there? Don't rule out the possibility that the reopening of casinos during the coronavirus pandemic was very risky? What if some of them were affected by the virus? It will be very risky with high transmission rates at those places.
How are his ways to encounter the spreading of the virus?
We know that everybody faces high difficulties in their financial systems during this pandemic. Their citizen may lose their earning and incomes highly so far. And some people may agree with his decision to reopen. But, think of the high risks. They may get the money up again, but they will probably die because of the virus.

If I were there, definitely I will not risk my life to come to the casinos. Better to play gambling on online sites. Now, there are so many online sites that offer worthy gambling. I will think to earn money and still live avoiding the coronavirus.

And she dares call herself a mayor? Instead of actively looking for ways to help her citizens have enough resources to last the quarantines, she does this kind of thing? Like really? Hasn't the various countries plagued by the virus not enough of an example to let her see that doing such idiotic things would only lead to the situation getting worse? Let's be honest, the Virus spread isn't guaranteed but there are always a what-if situation in that case and really, you can't make use of human lives to test that what if. And even if it were open tbh, I wouldn't go, nor anyone else for that matter most likely. People aren't idiots at all.

Restaurants can be reopened but it isn't really recommended since strict guidelines would be implemented in the end, but really? Casinos? Even the opening of Restaurants is already questionable and they deal with food. What more with Casinos who deal with money.

Casinos are the industry that gives a lot of profits to the Las Vegas city.
I don't find it unreasonable for the mayor to want to open the casinos again and bring money to the state. He just have to impose the correct measures in order to keep those places safe and not create another outbreak.

This is a bad idea we can see that they are not taking the virus more seriously and they are willing to sacrifice peoples live just to have the economy running this is a bold move for the mayor of Las Vegas she might intentionally want this after all in resuming the casino establishments and not stating any good reason why she wants to do this give a negative impression from many there must be a hidden agenda behind this and Anderson Copper might know something about this when he questioned her if she would be willing to go to one of the casinos if they were soon opened up. 

We already have similar discussion here : Mayor Of Las Vegas wants the whole city open, including casinos and stadiums (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244400.0)

Good intention but a bad idea for the Mayor is only thinking the necessity of everyone to go back to work for them to earn and be able to support their needs including their families. We all know if we play in a physical casino can make each of us more prone and expose to the virus that may worsen the situation and harder for the government to lessen the numbers of the infected citizen.

However, we find it as a bad idea reopening of casinos in Las Vegas for there are no precautionary measures that have been discussed yet rest assure there will be but may not guarantee the safety of everyone inside the casinos. Yet reopening these casinos doesn't necessarily mean that members and players will be required to be in the house it is still our discretion if we will play in physical casinos or not.

This case the same in our country, POGO casino was allowed to resume back their operation despite that we are still fighting Covid 19.
Because of the proposal that the revenues generated from POGOs will go towards the government’s COVID-19 response efforts they allow it to operate again.

Palace: No favoritism in allowing POGOs to resume operations (https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/05/02/20/palace-no-favoritism-in-allowing-pogos-to-resume-operations)

That's insane. This is not the time for it, especially when covid-19 is nowhere near under control.

Which people?

people should mean the majority, or the interest of the many.. who would go in a casino right now that the world is in pandemic, they are afraid to go out and that would give another headache to the government if the cases will continue to grow.. This mayor should at least look what is happening to the world now than serving his personal interest.

Did she accept enforcing social distancing, wearing of mask, use of disinfectant and other safety measures?
I think she made a good point regarding family depending on casinos and restaurants. But you wouldn't sacrifice the safety/lives of other (even one person) for the sake of thousands of families. That kind of sacrifice qualifies as blood/human sacrifice.
I think everyone should suggesting how to keep the whole community safe when businesses are reopened. Good suggestions can then be adopted by the leaders and the community.
* By the way, the bad/unsafe games shouldn't be allowed in order to also improve spaces in physical casinos and keep players productive/profitable/safe.
Good betting games(without gambling) are worth opening a casinos in the crisis

Here is also another interview from the Mayor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnM2jqB9OQ4

Her assumption is that everyone is a carrier, asymptomatic so it's everyone responsible to take care of themselves. Its like to each its own, and since there are no treatment right now, everyone should go on with their daily lives. LOL. This Mayor is really out of this world with her statement, incompetent.

I don't know what thread should be locked but there is already existing thread about this, and it's week earlier https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244400.0

Sooner or later life needs get back to normal and businesses need to work again, otherwise that might ruin owners and workers and lead to even bigger disaster than pandemic.
That also refers to casinos also so I can understand the mayor. To my opinion if they fulfil all the necessary measures about hygene and social distancing casinos might be opened, the key is that people are disciplined and obey the safety recommendations.

If I'm not mistaken, casino workers don't even want to work amidst coronavirus. The mayor does not even want to step inside the casino along with the worker if ever they will push through the reopening of casinos, but she wants to open it for their own benefits.

We should be expecting our government to keep our safety but what she just showed in the interview is very frustrating. Everyone wants to return to work and stop the economy from crashing but we have no choice but to stay at our houses because of the threat of the virus. Can't she just understand that? Even the interviewer seems shocked by the mayor's belief. If you are a mayor, you would not risk your people's health.

She's going to be questioned a lot after this terrifying crisis, worse is that she will not be a mayor any longer. Because what she thought be helping for the meantime would cost a lot of lives to be at risk. Beside, it is their economy status would get down that it ain't even as worth as many lives, and  who else is safe from it? (I mean the economy falling down). Anway even if I were a gambler from there I won't even give it a go without a second guessing, and no matter how much I miss wandering around. I appricate her intentions but it is really bad no matter which side you look at.

If this answer is yes by the government or necessary institutions, it would be a very wrong decision. Aside from the fact that a solution for the virus has not yet been produced, I think it is something that could cause the events to grow even more because the USA is the new spread point of the virus. Besides, many countries have closed their borders, so soon foreign citizens will definitely not visit here and the revenues of businesses here will decrease. Although the businesses in this region are hurting every day, I would like to emphasize once again that it is too early for them to open. Also, why aren't casinos creating bad or emergency funds for them as long as they've made huge gains? If such a fund had been created with such a high income, it would not be possible for such an early opening in such a critical process.

Very bad idea if they implement it. I do not know what is the reason for opening the casino at this time ? I understand the casino business is under a lot of stress but they should also see the covid-19 situation across the country. Even if they open them, the responsible citizens of New York will not come to casino as they know they can easily get infected because of the public crowd.

Nope that is not selfish decisions because the concerns are for the people of Her city and she only wants to find income for all the constituents and this is the needs that can be heard all over every city.
Not just about the taxation but the income of each others because she cannot sustain all their needs.
I think it will not come that way because for sure people are aware how this can be risky for them so many will prevent this to happen.
actually there are hundred of thousands that already died and there are plenty more struggling.

A selfish decision coming from a selfish mayor of a huge city.

She knows already that USA is now the epicenter of the virus and yet she is thinking things like this that may risk the lives of many people. This is stupidity. She Is just thinking of the economy of the country before the health of her countrymen. We know already what will happen to the economy of the USA after this virus. The government are continuously printing money (Quantitative easing) and for sure this will have an effect for them. I know that the economy of the US is very important because they will be beaten by the Chinese with regards to its economy but for now, they might just focus on the virus before their economy.

The Mayor of Las Vegas is in dilemma, you can't call her for doing the shots deciding what to do with the city she's leading. We all know the fact that Las Vegas is running under private businesses and companies where most of the taxes are coming from, government does not have the fund to sustain the people in the long run that's why they are trying to suggest these businesses to resume operating but at least with a guidelines. I'm sure the mayor of Las Vegas is having a headache right now, well everyone does because of this pandemic.

she is between a rock and a hard place. protests against the stay-home orders have been growing in las vegas and throughout the state for weeks.

the real problem that protestors and the mayor don't understand is this: who the heck is booking flights to vegas, and going out to casinos, shows, and restaurants right now? when vegas reopens, is anyone gonna show up?

i'll be sticking to online poker for a while. :P

A lot of the reasons for re-opening have already been mentioned but it all comes down to the local economy. Nevada's entire economy is based on Vegas and I would not be surprised at all to see state legislators hop on board with the Mayor's intention to re-open. Casinos aren't going to see the same amount of revenue as before with less tourism so it's not a matter of returning to normalcy, it's a matter of saving the local economy from collapsing completely. I'm sure the gambling addicts will be back on the tables immediately after re-opening but there's no telling how much the economic damage that's already been done will cause on these establishments.

They had a good run. Good luck to them.

First of all, it is pretty embarrasing that Carolyn Goodman is the mayor of Las Vegas. To those who are bored AF, I recommend watching the full interview (or at least try because second hand embarrassment is off the charts on this one) and judge for yourself if that lady is qualified to be a politician.

Secondly, there must be a lot of powerful & wealthy people pressuring others behind the scenes to force politicians to open up casinos. And I get it, there's SO MUCH money involved in the casino industry...Still, it doesn't justify that the rest of the state has to suffer the consenquences of such moronic decision (opening up casinos, where tons of people gather, in the middle of a pandemic).

Yeah, even the vaccines aren't find yet and someone want to find another issue to himself or the family. The relaxation form the lockdown should not be sewn as an opportunity for anybody or group to get together their businesses which is or are likely to attract huge crowd like gambling platforms. I think life is the first before talking about the funds from the business. Covid-19 still ravaging countries and causing deaths for both young and old and should be follow with social distances after relaxation. Las Vegas should wait for the sake of lives.

So, let me get this straight carlisle1, you think the people are having financial troubles right? So starting city back up and making them work so that they can earn their income will help them in order to not starve right? But you think places will not be packed and people will not risk their lives to make money?

Well, what I think is, right now in some parts of USA people are already protesting literally tip to tip from each other and they do not cover their faces neither, which shows you that there are SOME people who are idiots and will risk others. So starting back the casinos open MAY not create any problems, but there is the possibility of it as well. How about being a social democracy and using taxes the governments has collected so far to save people from both the virus and economical troubles?

 i guess it won't make the situation better. one thing is to reopen casinos and another one is to be sure that gamblers will come to play while pandemic.

I think that these type of decisions should be wisely discussed with a panel of experts.
The single opinion of a Major is not enough since the idea of "one man command" is not working in the real scenario, plus with a new infectious disease it's very hard to have any decision on that matters.
Even if in Las Vegas/Nevada there are not many Covid19 cases and they can control the situation it could be very risky at this point accept people coming from other States. It's normal that we are missing our "normal old life" but opening to soon activity is a potential (serious) risk

This is also what the mayor doesn't want to happen. If all traditional casino gamblers stick to online gambling that they can stay at home using their phones, no one will be back to las vegas. And there will be lesser money coming into the city, way of life change for the mayor and the businesses in the city. Might as well close shops here. Mobile gambling win!  ;D

If the national government itself approved the plan, then so be it.

There will be lots of precautions and safety measures that will be imposed and implemented here.

But if that plan already approved by the office of the President? I think Mayors don't have the power to just decide on their own when the country is under a global pandemic problem.

Given that the peak of the epidemic is already behind, I think this is a reasonable solution. It is worth a try. In the end, if there are any problems, then this solution can be undone. I think the business should start to work - with enhanced security measures, of course. Sooner or later it will have to be done. We must learn to work in new conditions.

That is correct but also the President is insisting in opening completely the country after two to
three weeks from now which will include the casinos.I strongly disagree with completely opening up the whole country when your country has the highest number of infections and of victims.

From an economic perspective though what Trump is trying to do is to give a boost to businesses as they are the ones who have been hit the hardest.

The change of hearts would be negligible

Online gambling has been around for a decade if not longer, so whoever wanted to play at home are already playing at home. People go to Vegas and similar places because they want real interaction and socialization, maybe not even so much gambling itself but the entourage of it, the environment and the spirit of gambling, plus things that typically come along with gambling (e.g. hookers if you win and drinking buddies if you lose)

Surely it has to be done but only thing it should not be done when the situations is bad or cases or on rise still in those areas. If those belong to green zone, then yes can be done or even if it falls in orange zone then with social distancing and only certain number of people at a time in casinos can be allowed. But hopefully the protocol is being followed else if things get worst then it would damage it further.

No, it is better to secure my safety and who knows who will touch the slot machines or any gambling equipment in the gambling house, they might be the carrier or the infected one.

The Las Vegas Mayor seems like she doesn't know what she was talking about. She pushes to reopen Casinos but then she mentioned that it is the job of the owner of casinos to figure out on how they will secure the safety of their players. The only reason why she said this is because she is not the owner.

People cannot do anything if the government approved the plan, and the casino will be re-open again. If that happens, then I think the government will use high standards for the casino to be operated, and they need to make sure that people who want to play gambling in their place will not have to worry. It is difficult because the pandemic is not over, and many people still choose to stay at home.

This is something that we should never consider, we all know that the pandemic is not over. The mayor of Las Vegas should think and realize that re-opening casinos will be a huge mistake, they should consider the regret of the Japanese Island for lifting their lockdown earlier, they are suffering in the second wave of coronavirus. If the Casinos in Las Vegas will start to operate again, this virus might spread more and the government will have a hard time fighting the virus.

Opening casino will add to the negative track record of United States citizens' indiscipline. As we can see, thousands of people still going to beach, even during the COVID pandemic. So it seems that reopening casinos are no longer a problem because there are many people who are not willing to isolate. Even though they know that the US is the country with the largest number of COVID-19 victims in the world.

One in every 300 across the entire width and breadth of the USA has contracted the COVID-19 virus and each and every day thousands more are diagnosed with the condition.  Here in Australia and New Zealand we have flattened the curve by temporarily closing all bars, pubs, clubs & casinos (cinemas, restaurants etc etc etc) as well as obeying social distancing (and all the other things).  If you're living in the USA and you're not self isolating then you should be VERY afraid between now and the end of the year.  (If you live that long)

The action by the interviewer is quite a good way to test whether the mayor does really shows concern about their economy and employee, perhaps, if the mayor doesn't want to go with the challenge, it signifies that he's just concerned about the profit of the casinos and not with the health of the casino workers.

For me, if I were in the place of the Mayor, I will do the same to try to open up the casinos as Vegas is known to be the center of physical casinos worldwide, it is a big loss if they continue to lock down further, but a big problem is how they can ensure that they will not be virus free.

They can't ensure that, and although they will say so but the rate of infected people in US is just too high and therefore the risk is too high as well.
One person would carry the virus without getting detected and that will ruin the operation, so I think no government will approve vegas to operate under the current situation, I'll bet 5 bucks on that. ;D

I wouldn't believe everything that Trump says. He makes a lot of meaningless statements now and then and doesn't stick to this word quite often. He wouldn't dare opening up the entire country since he knows who wrecked they are currently.

This is the dilemma that the entire world is in currently. Las Vegas will have no choice other than enforcing the lockdown to protect their people.

They could allow a small number of people(Scanning them before entering) at random intervals into their casinos though.

I do not think this change would be permanent. Those who love to go to casino will go to casino once they opened up. A person who feel the joy playing in real casino will not be happy playing gambling alone on his personal computer. I think Mayor should delay the opening of the casinos for another 2 months at least.

It will never that is one thing sure here because if the government will allow Las Vegas then what will happen to other states that is also fighting against this Quarantine?
why need to implement more when they can just stay in the recent rules so everything will go the safe ways?
even if they pass legislative order still not will be allowed by this threat to the lives of many.

the pros and regulars will come back in search of action, but the real struggle IMO will be tourist demand. no other state in the country relies on tourism as much as nevada---it represents 20% of its GDP.

"millions of tourists to virtually zero"
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/las-vegas-coronavirus-tourists-zero

it's gonna be a long time before people feel safe flying in/out of vegas and rubbing shoulders at table games and poker tables again. and that's a damn shame---live gaming is way more fun than online, i'll be the first to acknowledge that. but i dunno when it will feel safe again. live gamblers (vs online) skew older too, lots of 50+ and retiree casino gamblers. the coronavirus's disproportionate impact on older populations may be relevant there.

Not just for gamblers, but also the employees and the resident of Vegas and even the U.S. this will increase or will make the spread of virus faster. I wonder if there are still gamblers who will visit a real-time casino knowing the risk. Re-opening the casino will not help their economy that much because of the risk of getting COVID if they go to casinos.

In the US alone there are more than twenty thousand patients identified on a daily basis, i am not aware of situation in the rest of the states  but the situation in Las Vegas might be far better than the rest of the states in the US and if they close the boundaries and test and identify the affected people then they can open everything, if not they are taking risk that they will regret in the future.

Just to think that it is already hard for those countries that have island type of archipelago to isolate or stop people to cross boards.How much more in US?
They might have better numbers than others but doesnt mean that they wont have a chance to cope up into those if they do just carelessly open
up everything because shes concern with her citizens on vicinity.Yeah we understand that economy is highly affected but it inst just right to make this
kind of decision because we are risking lives on here.

Closing every entry and have a testing personal before anyone from the outside places to play might work, the government should implement much strict rules in order to lessen the chance of this pandemic virus to spread more. It's a tough call but if it's the way the mayor seen to revive the economy then taking the risk might results positively in terms of financial state. The government needs to find ways and each available solutions might be consider.

Its hard because there are people who are asymptomatic which can possibly cross borders without  being detected so its hard to detect when its on early stage.As long the vaccine isnt available yet then we cant really easily open or go back to normal and as said by Oilacris above that situations becomes even more worst if they do force up everything.Everything is already bored into this situation and its understandable that
those kind of words or sentiments cant really be avoided to come out in their mouths.Its hard but we shouldnt rush things up.

online gambling would be nice. many gambling district have developed Apps to cater customers and there are offshore gaming available here in my country. casino is a luxury business and it is not essential to open in todays world. i feel bad for the employees lost their jobs because of the pandemic but i think it is good that casinos remain close untlil the virus is present because it would be worse when it mutate and people will no longer have measures to contain it.

Reopening casinos in Las Vegas. It will not be the same, there is talk to test the temperature to customers, if there are still travel restrictions. The visit to the casino would be less, social distances and all the elements that the gambling and entertainment rooms have. It is a difficult situation, it is an industry that invests and generates a lot of income. We are honestly caught at a crossroads with the Coronavirus where we have to decide between health or the economy.

We can expect that will be the scenario due to the fact that there is still not vaccine for covid-19, if they will re-open, at least they will make something, which is better than not making anything at all, employees will be back since the operation will be back, but I am really concern with the risk of getting infected, on their part they will like to resume and promise but that is their bias opinion since its their own business or personal interest, so let us leave it up to the government or the authority on what action they will do.

thats sounds nice although it sounds a bit hassel too but its for our own safety anyway.  this way there will be no next wave of corona that will happen or no virus will penetrate in the future    . back on the real issue here about reopening during the crisis is a big no  . better if they will wait till the recovery on thier country is full and that will be the safest way to operate again but with a new stricter rule that we discussed above earlier . if they want they can create online gambling for now

How will call a suggestion that'll favor the economy of his city and its citizens selfish?, She isn't saying this to favour just herself as I'm quite sure we all know the gambling industry is what bring in the largest revenue to the city and create job empowerment for its citizens. Without job, people will lack funds and within funds, hunger will kill more victim than the say Corona virus.

If you watch the news, other establishment are planning on resuming like the premier league and other sporting events so as some companies that shutdown due to the outbreak. Sanitizing the hands of the visitors of the casinos and practicing social distancing (only few numbers of gambler can be allowed in the casino at a time) could also reduce the spread of the virus meanwhile we go around our daily activities.

 

The mayor's a her.

If the mayor is only thinking of the city's economy, that would certainly be selfish. An unseen enemy is just outside the city's homes ever ready to infect just anyone. If the mayor is only thinking of her people's health without considering the fact that many of them are left unemployed and without income, that would also be selfish.

Somehow, the mayor has to find an elusive balance between the health and economy of her people. Opening up casinos is a risk. That's for sure. But if that is what it takes for the economy to remain alive despite the presence of this pandemic, then they will have to do it differently. Gamblers and casino staff may be required to wear masks and face shields and strictly practice physical distancing.   

Thanks for the correction, read through some replies before responding and they all referred to the mayor as a he, so without watching the video or researching on who the mayor exactly was in regards to the gender, I want on with my contribution while addressing the mayor as a he. Your contributions isn't quite different from mine as we're all saying the same thing. Locking down everywhere for the fear of contacting the virus isn't the perfect solution to some extent.

If the situation stays this way for several months most city might come out of the lockdown not been able to keep the economy of their city running. Which will even be more deadly than the virus itself.

I supported what you said because despite the global lockdown issue the cases of the virus still increase which proof the lockdown not to be the perfect solution of the pandemic disease and if the lockdown persist there is chance for the economy to collapse and it will take years before it can be resolve.
The casino should be open but giving some social distance rules and restrictions which will prevent the spread of the virus.

The challenge will be to get most people or everyone to really practice the social distancing with other safety measures. Guess if there is some sort of reward and punishment for obeying or violating the safety rules, more people people will comply without the need for microchipping  or getting people to wear hard-to-remove wearable things.

it is one thing to open the casinos, and another to keep social distancing and more than usual cleaning in the casinos, we should be back to normal, but with better precautions that earlier, people should not stop to wash their hands at least 20 seconds now, and should keep distance, it is important to not to go into second wave of covid

microchipping ?   that was also one of thier ideas to cure the virus right  ? but this isnt the topic here  . there is no need to reward people but punishment has always been there  . i also agree on the coments above that gambling places should continue running  , not just gambling business but other business as well too because we dont know if how long this corona issue will last but one thing for sure is that this quarantine can kill the economy   . it can kill people because people dont have the money   . governments relief is also limited and i dont know if how long they will keep doing it

Truth, the lockdown dont limit the number of COVID-19 victims and i also believe the Mayor intention was to make a name for herself just like her husband who was the first Las Vegas Mayor whose image placed on casino chips  but it not something good for a Mayor of a State to ask for the reopening of crowded places like casinos and to be ruled as a placebo.

Firstly, the OP didnt post Carolyn Goodman respond when she was ask if she going every night on casinos if they reopen,she replied: “First of all, I have a family. I don't gamble."
Nevertheless, this topic have create alot of controversy about Carolyn Goodman.

I think her intention was for her own benefit. Saying it's for the economy, but with people dying due to the virus, it's already affecting the economy badly. What more if it becomes uncontrollable? We all know that America is being affected badly by the pandemic yet she wants to reopen everything and act like everything is normal.  They have a huge number of cases and their medical workers are having a hard time handling every case but with her opinion, it will even bring more positive cases in their place.

I think even right now she might lose her credibility because of her stance on the situation. Reopening everything in the middle of the crisis is obviously a bad decision because it might worsen the situation.

It will.. that is why it did not happen, otherwise people will blame her and she has no power to re open an establishment that are required to be close at this time, so she'll be breaking the law of the land, and she'll face the consequences of her action.

I understand the Mayor point and theres no way the quarantine will be the solution to limit the spread of the virus if every individual are not following the good hygiene procedure said by the WHO. Besides, I personally dont see the function of the lockdown which is causing economy meltdown while the pandemic situation keeps getting worse every day.
In the meantime, her request about the opening of casino was not granted.

A very bad decision if true casinos reopened in Las Vegas. And if I become a Las Vegas citizen, I don't want to take the risk by playing
at the casino. The condition in America today is still bad, because the spread of the corona virus in America is still the worst. So it's best
not to open up the crowd place like the casino in Las Vegas, until the corona virus is completely stopped.

If i am in Her shoe?i will think the same thing because i am losing millions of dollars from taxes since businesses are not operating thinking how large is the income of that city each day and how the people are suffering from no Job.

But on the same thoughts that i will think about the welfare of my people and their health concerns things that very risky in our days now.

Looking how many of the victims had died?prevention is still better than cure.

I am not from the US but doesn't Las Vegas has permanent customers from the inside area?
For sure, travel restrictions are going to have serious impact to the income flow of the casinos but still I am not sure that this is the main stream.
Casinos are not going to open till the situation is stabilized.

^ Definitely right, reopening of casinos in Las Vegas may worsen the situation for we all know that if we enter the physical casino we can't guarantee the social distancing anymore that may cause more serious problems for the government. We cannot blame Las Vegas' mayor for her intention is somehow beneficial to those whom the only source of living is their employment in these casinos. Probably some precautionary measures that will be implemented but as of now, we know that it will not guarantee our safety and health. Nevertheless, Mayor Goodman may also think of reopening the casinos for this is the main source of funds in her city but let us always bear in our mind playing gambling in a physical casino may risk us to a virus so, it is always our discretion if we will go and play in physical casinos or we just stay at home be safer.

Re-opening casinos this early might worsen our current situation,

If this happens, the virus will spread so fast because gamblers can't avoid touching every machine inside a gambling house, they can't observe social distancing, and even worse, a gambling house is a close hall and everyone who entered there is possible to carry the virus to their houses.

unfortunately with all the displeasure and solidarity towards the employees of these casinos who are at home at the moment I believe that for now it is impossible to reopen safely, the virus is still lurking, they must wait to be able to reopen in complete safety without any risk...

These employees are like to be layoff for a year because according to some expert, it will take a year for the vaccine to be produce, that means no income for them until that time happen, so they need to find another alternative to make money at the moment which is very hard if they don't have a skill to work online, they just have to be realistic, not hoping for something to come when it's almost not possible, and for this mayor,she should not give hope to these people that he can re open a casino amidst this pandemic.

Here's the latest update about the story:
Mayor Goodman sounds off again about reopening Las Vegas businesses, resolving unemployment complications (https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/mayor-goodman-sounds-off-about-reopening-las-vegas-businesses-again)


I think her plan of re-opening Vegas isn't just on her own. Surely her office received lots of calls from the community who are now unemployed to think of a way how they will survive the crisis and one of those is employment or any source of income. Continous relief isn't the answer as it can't sustain the family's needs for the long-term.

That kind of situation is a challenge for any head of the office. Any decision is critical. As much as the local government wants to contain all people to their homes, there are a number of families who can't afford to do that. For me, it's much better if their local government (Mayor's office) focus the relief and help to those heavily affected families on their community and those who are well-rich or still do have lots of basic stocks on their home are the second option. Although, I know they already did it but still not enough.

Even vaccines will be made, surely the supply will be limited and it's not an overnight process wherein it can be distributed right away to all people. I understand some people sentiments that they need to find a source of income but what we are aiming for here is a long-term solution and that is to minimize first the spread of the virus.

Next time, please quote my whole post rather than responding to each line since it will destroy the whole context of my post. You are replying to me for a thing that a government there can only answer and not me.

1. If the government approved the plan, each state can't do anything since that's an executive order. They will just have to take security measures on the border. If you read the news, President Trump itself is ok with the Mayor's plan.

2. Why need to implement that? Of course, because they are pushing the plan. They are already suiciding with their plan so that's a must.

3. Read number 1.

I'm also against the Mayor's decision so don't get me wrong. Ask the Mayor instead rather than me because I don't know what's the answer to your response to me.

In the first place, it should not be an agenda overcrowding can result in a lot of infection, if they reopen it many gamblers will be tempted to try their luck and cast caution to the wind, but I will not be a part of those crowds I have see the dangers of COVID and the disadvantages outweighs the advantages if you get COVID, so it's not worth going out and gambling.

Singapore should be the best example of what the 2nd wave of the pandemic would look like. The country did a good job in containing the virus in the beginning, however, opened their country very early and they had no plan on how to fight it versus the 2nd wave.

I reckon the Las Vegas is being pressured by the powerful casino owners.

It would be really difficult to fully open up and things like real world casino are always filled with people when open and it can't be controlled like in a supermarket. Real world casinos would probably needs to be closed for rest of the year and if they want to profit, they should too turn into an live online casino business.

the real driving force IMO is that the city of las vegas is dead broke, projecting a huge budget deficit due to the lack of incoming tax revenue.


https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/las-vegas/federal-money-concessions-sought-to-close-las-vegas-budget-gap-2022662/

The casino can open their business, but they need to check everything before they can invite people to come to their places. It is hard to do because we are still in this pandemic, and we don't know if after they finish checking their place, it could be safe for people or not because the virus is invisible. The casino needs to make contact with the health office authority in their city to help them to check and secure their place from the virus so it will not scare people who want to visit in that casino.

even how hard She wanted yet She has no Power to make it happen so this is just a desperate message from a Mayor of one big city.
though Singapore faces the 2nd wave grateful and now almost wiping the virus again.
What can we expect here?the Mayor surely concern about the health of Her people but this Big gambling operators?who cares.

What wver they reason is not good for the player to open their casino I think they need to priorities the health of the people not the money.

That is the problem of the people they are always think on how to earn money even in this pandemic money is useless once you die so that mayor better to review the consequences if they are going to reopen or wait more months so the people will be safe.

Everyone of us are looking for money as its very important to survive in this pandemic, but to risk the lives of the many, that is wrong.
United states is a big country, they print money to help people support in this crisis, so would they still work to risk lives, they just live a simpler life to survive.

This is the time to live to survive, not to grow the business, there's a lot of time to do that, after the PANDEMIC of course.

Casino are entertainment places and if they does not open, it will not have any big impact on the people or the government. I think Las Vegas Mayor will be doing very wrong if he decides top open the casinos. Do they think that playing gambling is more important than the lives of the people ?

I saw same topic about  the mayor or las vegas mayor have plan to re open casinos that place and I think it is crazy Idea and the president will not agree on what the mayor wants because we have lockdown so the virus will stop but if they re open casino for sure more cases will increase because many people will get the virus if the casino starts again to reopen.

We also have to consider that the casino is in the USA where it has the biggest number of total infected on the virus.
The president will not allow, so it is not going to happen, the Mayor is just only thinking of it, but it is not gonna gain some approval from the higher authority.

The mayor does not have the concern for the people, I reckon. The skeptical me is thinking that she is pressured by the people who made her the mayor, the owners of the casinos.

She would have stepped down if she cared.

Also, Singapore cases are increasing. The country is not successful in controlling the 2nd wave.

People are taking it lightly and they wanted to restart their business and keep it rolling and Singapore is a good example where they controlled in the beginning but when they started opened everything, the second wave is creating problems for them.

The casino owners are powerful.


People are protesting is what i heard from friends to open business and Mayor will be having no choice than to comply with them if not their political career will be difficult.

I have a thread about strict guidance and restriction its possible to reopen if they are already flattening the curve, but it should be under strict guidance like mandatory wearing of facemask and Faceshield, plastic and glasses or divider to minimize crowding in one location, they can think of a lot of guidance and restrictions as long as they can follow the health experts recommended protocols.

Yes I heard about this, I do think it is a really bad idea. One can try and ask the people to follow the rules , but guess what??
They won't! Someday there will be one person who will actually come there without masks and will be the source of infection for others. One cannot take responsibility for each and every man out there .
For the time being he should respect the doctors working hard to try and control the virus, everyone is risking their lives for us to be safe , we should rather stay and home and follow the regulations by heart , it is for us , not for someone else.

My thoughts on that is the fact that the re-opening of casinos impose a large risk to people that will go and gamble and the people that works there too, my opinion is that this pandemic risks should not be set aside, no matter how much strict measures you are going to impose there will always be someone that will slip the crack and cause an increase in the people getting infected, this move for me no matter the reason is just a plain old corporate greed, I get that this is the biggest industry in their city but there should be other things that will support the economy.

No matter how tight is their security or precautions in that place.
If someone is a silent carrier, he can infect others very easily as most people are just using the ordinary face mask.
The virus can penetrate those kind of mask. And the room is air conditioned, which is very susceptible to spread of the virus.
I hope they will not regret this vital decision to their constituents.

The casino might be powerful but the pandemic happening now cant be stop through the power the casino had, the only thing that can stop it is we working together and doing every possible best to stop the virus not some people only care about make money while they ignore the possible cases that would rise.
It good that  U.S representative (Dina Titus) disagree with her.

I know, it is difficult time for re-opening physical casino but it is not impossible. You cannot control coronavirus by lock-down a city or whole country unless people are aware. If we follow some rules and precautions then we will be able to re-open the casinos. we must have to use masks, must refrain from shaking hands and we need to use sanitizer after a while. If other shop and factories can be opened according maintaining these rules, then I think the casinos can also be opened.

I don't see why not. The pandemic is mostly fake and there's really no need to be scared of the virus.

I read that it's much less lethal than SARS and I haven't seen a panic this big during the SARS epidemic.

The governments are overreacting and we shouldn't force people to stay at home if they feel healthy and want to take a risk. I have been taking a risk since day 1 and feel great.

As if there is something behind the mayor's decision to open the casino, the workers are used as a tool for the interests of certain parties. I do not know, I do not agree with this decision unless the corona pandemic in the region has shown a decline. The government should make every effort to complete the spread of the virus and not add to the long list of corona victims.

it's possible these risk takers are infecting lots of other people, possibly as asymptomatic carriers. that's one of the theories behind the lockdowns anyway.

even clinically "mild" (non hospitalized) cases can be quite severe. i had it and was sick for 3+ weeks, sickest i've ever been in my life. i also have some persisting lung damage which hopefully is not permanent.

i don't blame people for being scared. a big majority of those surveyed are in favor of the lockdowns.


unlike COVID-19, SARS never actually became a pandemic. only ~8k people ever got it when the outbreak happened in 2003. since this is a widespread pandemic, the major issue is that healthcare systems can be easily overwhelmed due to the length/severity of the disease.

I don't understand why you called it fake? so you are not afraid to walk in the street without face mask?

have you seen the number of people who died due to this virus?

sorry, all questions  because I am just interested why you call it fake.

wow, because you were able to survive it doesn't mean other people will survive as well.

We have different strength, some are weak, some does have a good immune system, if this is no threat then it would not be considered as a pandemic and it will not result to a global crisis now, BTW, may I ask what country you are living right now? I'm interested, I would like to check the number of cases in your country.

The powerful casino owners do not want to stop the pandemic, however hehehehe. They only want the mayor to declare a reopening of their casinos and risk the people to get sick of the corona virus hehe

Well.. my question is why blame just the casino owners? We also expect the public to behave responsibly, right? Even if the casinos are open, the gamblers should take stock of the situation in their respective areas and control their urges until it becomes safe to participate in such activities. And until then, there is always the option of gambling online, with the numerous digital casinos.

They will have preventive measures when casinos are going to be open so they say.  Its the pandemic problem that we are about to provide solutions and one problem that has to be solved is the economy and to make the people around Neveda survive because there has to be something to work on so people will earn and survive this lockdown.

Sh*t up if you are just posting to increase your post count.

My sister is working as a nurse, as a frontliner, in a hospital wherein at least 80% of the patients are Covid-19 patients. Not just that, some are under PUM and showing symptoms. Everyday, she is always afraid that she might be infected as well with the virus but still they are here to help. My sister is just one of the healthcare workers who always encounter those confirmed patients EVERY SINGLE DAY risking their lives and health. Don't take your conspiracy theory here as the pandemic virus is REAL and NOT A JOKE.

(sorry for my words Bitcointalk community)

Why would they not want to stop this pandemic?

If they are losing money because of it, your line of reasoning makes little sense. Then again, even if the mayor allows gambling in Vegas amid the outbreak, it doesn't mean the casinos there will be crowded to the hilt. Whether these greedy (allegedly) bastards (presumably) would actually do something to stop the spread of the disease is another question as they only serve one master and that is the bottom line

Your lucky that you do have that strong immune system. Have you tried to walk without a facemask? (same as questioned above?)
Its just really that dumb to say such things on where it do looks like that you dont have any concern for other people. Why fake?
Are those numbers of deaths are a big joke? I dont know if you are dreaming or not.You do say things too easy and doesnt think up
on what would be the effect, you would surely believe if this thing is real if you do get the virus itself.  ;D

First of all, I'm happy the Mayor's offer was turned down or else the situation will be worse more than now.
With that been said, I think Pixie85 haven't experienced the true case of the COVID-19 and that's why he believes the government is overreacting as you can see he make his statement base on what he read and the last time i checked some article writer spread false information.

Of course, he knows the Covid is real, its just that the government and media had been overreacting. In reality the virus will only consume the ones with a weak immune system. But 8 out of 10 probably has a weak system this is why the media needs to take precautions by overreacting. 

Did you know that there were tested positive but doesn't have symptoms?  No matter, the virus kills and thousands had died already.

They overreacted because they want people to take the pandemic circumstance more important and the virus dont only consume people with weak immune system alone cause it also consumes elderly people with some kind of sickness aliment.
Do you know the total number of people with aliment that will visit the casino if the Mayor's offer is accepted?

Just wow ::). I don't know how you able to ignore such thing. Yeah it is true that corona virus is less lethal than the other viruses existed but it's spread rate is no joke. That's what it makes more dangerous, hello? It won't become a pandemic for nothing.

I totally disagree for Las Vegas to open their city mainly just for business purposes (eg. Casinos and other amenities) because it is very risky. We can't disregard the tendency of getting a second wave of covid once they open since gamblers all over their country will come over there for sure.

There are unbelievably selfish people. If you are young and strong, you are probably not afraid of how lethal covid is even if you are infected. But are you not gonna consider those people around you or those who come in contact with you who are very vulnerable to succumb fatally to the same virus?

Just look at the numbers and you will see we are increasing to millions and millions of infections despite the lockdowns everywhere.

Common cold also isn't deadly and its spread rate is no joke. Most of us get it once a year.


It became a pandemic because the government officials overreacted. The bans are already being lifted.
The virus has been spreading in February and is spreading now. It's just not as deadly as they had thought.



Those who feel vulnerable and feel scared can stay at home. It doesn't mean we all have to.

Do you really believe any of that? I don't know how social distancing can even be applied in these casinos. And another major risk factor, that everyone tend to ignore is the fact that the vast majority of the clients are either middle-aged or elderly. Obviously we can't shut down the entire economy for 12 months. But right now, I would say that it is too early to open the casinos.

This article ask questions whether people will come when casinos reopen.

https://news3lv.com/news/local/when-we-reopen-will-they-come-mgm-resorts-outlines-new-covid-19-safety-plan

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So I guess people would still have doubt to get into the casino even if it will re open soon, with this, casinos will not be able to earn its usual earning like in the past, and if they will be re open, it will be limited number of people and I hope they'll be able to increase their income over their operational expenses.

Perhaps, if there are lines of slot machines, they could play 1 empty slot after another, that could probably be the precautionary measures they could implement, or else, staff members need to work double in order to sanitize each and every slot machines every time.

But for me, it is irrational to still pursue playing in casinos when in fact, they could play in online casinos where there's no need to fear about spreading the virus nor having infected.

Or they can arrange the place moving spaces against each other ,back to back machines can be more secure and the players wont have any chance to be close to each other right?so they obey the social distancing and alcohol everywhere in casino for more virus free.
But the problem is the government and businesses income.we knew how big taxes this gambling establishment provide for the city and this is not a small amount so pursuing the opening of casinos are indeed .

I think that is the reason for many business owners wants to open their business, and not just gambling business wants to open their business, but the other business will want the same thing. Right now, many companies need to make money because they don't have any income now. Besides that, many employees in many companies also need money to buy their needs.

If the virus isn't still eliminated completely then we will really have a hard time recovering because there is still a risk of getting the virus from other people. We just really need to wait for the vaccine to be discovered, and distributed to the whole world before we can confidently do what we want to do. It is not easy for us to recover and go back to normal especially when this pandemic brought us permanent damage.

It is not guaranteed for the casinos to reopen because we know that everything is not going well and the virus is still progressive all around the world. Online gambling casinos are essential for them so that they will have something to have fun off while they're in their house. Opening casinos are not that easy to do especially that governments are prohibiting those mass gatherings.

By allowing people again into casino's you are spreading the risk of spreading the virus again. We can talk about all the precautions and measures but will they be followed properly? Right now the situation we are in is because of the people's and government's carelessness or late action. At any point if someone doesn't follows the protocol properly whether it be staff or the gamblers inside the casino, it will put lives into danger again.

She may not succeed in what she wants, I think there's still a little consequence of what she said on the national TV. Saying that in the middle of the pandemic, shows what kind of leader she is. I think her people saw that the way she thinks won't help them in times of crisis. Better for them to learn and not to let their next mayor have such kind of attitude.

Right now, I think casinos are still planning on what's the best they can do in case they will re-open again. Planning is really important before making any decision, unlike that mayor. She just wants to re-open every business without thinking or preparing of any concrete plan. They can't just make things back to normal that easily especially that their country is heavily affected by the virus.

If the government will allow this to happen, they will surely monitor the situation closely, and if it will not be followed properly, a sanction will be given to the casino like cancellation of license to operate, that's the kind of measure a casino would not think of messing out.

Well, they have an antibodies and Trump revealed that he is using malaria drug (probably hydroxychloroquine) to prevent him from being affected by the virus.

This move by their mayor is pure greediness. They didn't think the lives of their countrymen. Some of the countries are afraid that the second wave may happen and here they are risking the lives of their people by opening casinos for their economy.

Their economy has been destroyed when they did the Quantitative Easing and the recovery of their economy will take years to come back again to its normal state. The economy of their country is more important than the health of their people which is a bad move for me. I don't like this idea by their mayor and I don't think that there are gamblers who are willing to risk their lives and will go to a casino just to gamble.

and maybe they will allow at least 30-40% of the total capacity of the casino because i think this is enough players to cover the expenses of gambling operation per day.
If i am to decide?i will never be the first player to enter casinos this part of time and rather wait for at least months before entering casino again since i have been doing such before the lockdown happens so what for me to ask a little longer.

Surely there is a extreme measures, an if they violate by not implementing that measures, a loss of business license is like a loss of billions of income for this big casino, they will stake their license here for their request that they will be able to operate again, they will make sure everything will work from their end.

I think the only reason why they are making possible for those sector to operate is for tax money. Like it or hate lot of country are suffering for economic damage of this virus and they are gonna make a way to fix it. Allowing casino' to operate is going to be a huge risk for the people that are going there! And we all know that a lot of people are dumb enough to risk their life just to gamble. Opening a casino in the middle of a crisis is purely selfish idea. Just for me tho.

But what if they put sanitizer next to each table or slot machine? Make a distance of more than 2 meters from each player, make regular room disinfection more often and put air cleaning hardware on max power. Also make a defensive screen for dealer (like it is used in cashbox in the shops). In addition to giving free masks.

There are cameras everyone. It is easy to find out which gambler doesnt use mask or etc. Or limit the amount of gamblers in area who wants to play.

It will be a best solution for gamblers, casinos and national treasury :)

I read somewhere that the sanitizer kills 99% of the germs, and the remaining 1% survive. That said, we need to remember the fact that the virus spreads through air. What will happen in case anyone sneezes or coughs? Are they going to evacuate the entire building and then sanitize it every-time someone sneezes? I am telling you.. these proposals are very difficult to implement in reality.

Do you really think these casino owners don't think about that? In every casino, there is surely a strict implementation of those people who are only allowed to go in.

If a person were noticed having a continuous cough or sneeze, the possibility for these people to not enter the casino might happen. If it just casual sneezes and coughs, they might allow but since the strict implementation is happening, surely they will be monitored. They are not doing that suicidal plan without preparations.

I'm against too at their plan but if there's no choice, as people there also need jobs, they just need to follow the protocol.

And don't worry as I think only few people will go here because of the fact that majority is afraid.

Casinos are not an essential activity, They have not yet been given the green light to reopen in Las Vegas. The good thing is that in Nevada the rate of infected people was controlled.

Now to lifting of confinement the essential activities businesses are being carried out by phase first. Casino owners are eager to reopen under strict preventative measures such as make testing Coronavirus for their employees.

Who wont really be that eager on re-opening up their business? This doesnt only talks about economic matters but also into their own personal
gains since these are businesses and this doesnt only particularly talks about casinos and other establishments or services as well.We know that
it would really be sustainable if it would took so long for them not to operate and its just normal that in case of some re-opening of these
businesses then expected that they would really follow out strict measures.

there will be a surge in corona-positive patients if the las vegas are reopened...
it will not be able to open, as usual, we all know that las vegas are very crowded, thousands of people gather and it will be difficult to keep their distance, there needs to be an innovation if you want to reopen las vegas.

There is always a measure that will be put in place, don't expect that you will see the same crowd when the casino will be reopen, just like a department stores or malls open even at the pandemic, they will also make some extreme measures to ensure there will be no spread once they will re open.

I am not against anyone who are concern with the pandemic, but the economy will die if it will not be well balance.

Well, those that are strong in "faith" (& are truely "protected")  would still consider those that are weak in faith and vulnerable.
If a good/reasonble law says wear a mask and practice social distancing, do it for the sake of others (even if you'll never get infected) so they don't get scared, confused, start copying you, or start behaving recklessly.
People who get infected from you, won't be glad knowing who is responsible for their misery

Some countries already experiencing 2nd wave outbreak of the virus, thinking they flatten they curve and that their able to bring their economy back that makes them risk more lives. Many will be attracted to go again in Vegas especially this time that some thinks its way to earn for them or to get what the lose during lockdown. Better not to reopen until vaccines were able.

   Freedomgo you are right,  we can be concerned but economy will die if
people don't work, and that will be just the beginning. Towns like Vegas,
other towns that depends on people who go there, spend money there have
no choice. Only with risk they can try to reopen and work, but there's no
other choice for them.
     There's no way wee will see crowd so soon anywhere, but one day we will get back
to normal life, we can only hope it will be soon.

Open air Bingo, its still business but its adaption over what was previously done.    Every company in the end is going to have to find a way forward thats a compromise between the absolute shutdown which was never feasible long term and back to normal which is not reasonable as it will cause unnecessary deaths to some of your customers.     Clear all these physical operations should have been linked to a website of games, if they didnt do it in the past they were slacking imo and now its proving to be a fatal mistake.    Letting people play russian roulette and just pretend its back to normal is not ok, as you say there is no justifiable reason to do that.
   Nevada has great weather time to take advantage and go open air, its not impossible just more hassle to operate this way.

They would need to choose.. Hassle or wont really have any revenue at all? Of course you would really embrace the new normal and as a business then you would do sort of things .
As a casino owner then you would need to adjust because it needs to and if not then expect for business to be good as dead and for us gamblers then we would need to adapt
because we know on what situation we are into.

As long the vaccine isnt out yet then we cant really go back to our normal lives and would need to adjust.

I saw reports about the restaurants that were opened (it seems in Germany) and this is what surprised me: they had practically no visitors. I wonder if the casinos open the situation will be about the same? A business cannot work without visitors, and if there are none for various reasons (fear or lack of money), it is better to wait for better times.

I guess she doesn't understand that even animal welfare means freedom from disease.

I'm sure people would rather lose some income rather than be in hospital having their lungs ventilated because they're got bacterial or viral pneumonia!

I understand there's a need to balance the effects on the economy with the effects on people's health, however, it should not be forced on everyone.

Maybe they should have a vote on it. Let the citizens on Las Vegas vote whether they want to take the health or financial hit. At least it's fair that way.

She is like in an oven toaster, hot from all sides  :). Every ounce of decision here will be criticized. But i like the courage and the optimism of this official as we can't be forever be hiding scared from this virus as we will suffer if we don't do anything about it. Once casinos will be back open, people would also be mindful and they will follow protocol (though not all) to avoid the virus and if ever there's a spike in contamination then that should be the time to lock down again. Move and adjust until we all find the best way to balance everything.

It's not a matter of essential activity, it's about saving the local economy. No one is going to make the argument that gamblers need to be serviced. It's about looking at the line of jobs involved in casinos. You have blue collar workers like servers, dealers, pit bosses, ect. that can not stay on unemployment forever.

Even after casinos reopen, they're not going to see the same level of volume as before until years from now when this blows over.

From the marketing perspective, it makes sense, as the first opened casino the interest by regular groups of gamblers will grow day by day and this will show its effects after the end of the lockdown. The same principles work in all sections of businesses included online casinos that will start the match with 1-0 score, IMHO. The lack of money is the another motivational reason to accelerate the whole process.

Restaurants do have deliveries so they can still operate without visitors. I just don't know how heavy the demand of food delivery on Germany.

As for physical casinos, gamblers really need to go here to play. That's why there are lots of critics received by the Mayor.

But for me, as long as they following a strict guidelines, I'm not against this. Casino workers are desperate, they need to find work to sustain their daily living and casinos. I'm sure they already know it's risky so they will follow the guidelines.

For one it is very very risky for the Mayor to open the city this early through the pandemic. Being that the U.S. has the most number of infected in the world, that basically is the alarm that we need to tell everyone to be very careful in everything they do if they decide to go out and do some outdoor activities away from the safety of their home. Sure you can go ahead and make the economy run again but with less people going out then there is no point in opening the businesses that early.

An interesting thought. I agree. If the number of visitors allows you to justify operating costs and be at least at a zero level of profitability, then opening is a profitable step that will pay off in the future. But if a significant part of the establishments opens immediately, then it seems to me that there will not be enough visitors for all.

Can't say there no enough visitors because when it comes to entertainment, people will forget the risk just to attend a boxing match. I believe there had been fights in the MGM grand already. There are sports events already happening in Last Vegas which I guess the mayor succeed with her intention to provide jobs for the people.

But then the risk still there. We could say they contribute why US is the epicenter of the virus these days.

I see two reasons that can prevent a person from spending money on entertainment:

1.) A lack of money. Due to the crisis, many people lost their jobs/habitual source of income and are forced to save now.
2.) Fear of getting infected. Many people argue this way: entertainment will not run away, better I’ll wait for the end of this situation.

I think both of these reasons are weighty. How significant they are we will know when the rejection of restrictive measures begins and people have a choice.

If a law is idiotic you were given a brain to think for your own and question it. If you believe that wearing a mask made of a piece of cloth will protect you from the virus you must be nuts.

Ever thought that it's not people who are infecting you, but you can simply catch it from touching a product in a store. The virus can survive for a few days on surfaces, so wearing a mask does nothing but give you a false sense of safety.

Whole world will get the virus sooner or later. You can live like normal if you want or stay at home and delay the inevitable.

Washing hands and not rubbing your face after touching surfaces especially in public was from near to the start stated as the main danger to catching it.   The face mask is just the most visible way so in peoples minds the most effective, I agree the mask can be a danger in false security when the distance the washing hands is what counts far more.
  Unfortunately people are not liable to be rational and people will do things without thinking which leads them into catching this by accident by a momentary lapse.  We're all vulnerable and the main request to reduce exposure is because there is no way hospitals can handle everyone getting it all at once.  There is no excuse to open up cinemas or anything with close contact corridors and so on.    Luckily most supermarkets are wide and open but still its a balanced risk to take.   The 2nd wave will likely worse then the 1st I think, partly because people get used to the problem and stop worrying.

Contact with slot machines and all the other hands on games obviously is not going to work.  I thought my idea of bingo out in the open was ideal, it doesnt require touch or circulated cards etc.   Obviously we all know it should be done online where at all possible till year end at earliest imo.

She's only doing this because i believe she owns a chain of restaurants in some of those casinos, and its hurting her pockets to keep them closed.

I think casino's alone should not be opened. If government want to open casino's they should open all other things like departmental stores, cinemas and other places. And all of these should be opened, when the government is sure that this will not spread the covid-19. They can delay in opening for a month  or so, to be more on the safer side.

And I think that it's hurting every single business. A politician who is also a business owner can understand it better than than your average Joe.
The countermeasures for the pandemic are destroying the economy and that's a fact. You might think this is a selfish move because it's a casino but if it was another type of business I'm sure the responses would be much less biased.

That's bad. But at the same time, I have a feeling that the American public is behaving in a very reckless manner. Trump has grouped churches in the category of "essential services", despite thousands getting infected during religious gatherings. And we all saw the out-of-control crowd, when the beaches in Miami opened recently for the public. It is sad that despite all these deaths, people are not taking it seriously.

^^ Exactly. That's precaution or prevention but that doesn't means you have gotten safe from virus. There are still other unanticipated ways through which it can spread and we can't afford to go there and open casinos without thinking about every scenario through which can happen.

Though I get how it is important right now since it is slowly crushing economically but its very hard to implement just like @Vishnu.Reang said.

If this is true then she should be thrown out of her office, she is looking more on her interest than the interest of the community, it's a total conflict of interest and it's a source of corruption, an elected mayor should not have a conflict and favor his business, people in Las Vegas should replace this mayor.

Looking at how everyone goes out anyway and protest or do anything stupid, I could basically say that workers could go back to work at this point. They could have some sort of protections of course, we can't just let them work like nothing happened. For example, they could have wider distance from the gamblers which would help, they could also wear masks and gloves and so forth that they could change every 30 minutes.

Casinos make billions of dollars, being closed doesn't help them neither, if they could spend tens of millions of dollars to protect their workers they would be still better outcome for them than not working at all and lose all that income. Hence I think there could be some sort of solution found. I still think everyone should stay at home, but since they are not doing that at all, might as well open with some protections would be better.

It's a big No, even in some other countries the continuation of the school class is a big mistake causing a lot of students getting the virus COVID-19 and they are already implementing safety rules in the schools. But the thing is it just never gonna work even if their are rules, socialization is already the thing in schools and even in casinos opening them is a big mistake. If they are a concern to their customer they knew that it is not time for them to open the casino or their businesses we know that they just wanted to get the money because even if they are big businesses and have a lot of money they don't want to lose the profit.

Any source to prove this?

We might think a politician has some hidden reason behind why she pushes something that is not allowed at the moment, but we need some evidence, even if it's just our speculation, a basis would be good as we can't assume that all politicians are corrupt.

This is serious if it holds true, and people and other will come out strongly if this becomes true and it will a huge impact on her businesses in future as people will avoid going this places. But in case if she does not own then, whatever is the best for the people in interest of safety should be done.

Do you have an article sir to prove this, it's against the rule and law it's a conflict of interest she can be impeached if he really owns a chain of restaurants and she is more looking on her interest than the welfare of her people.

Well not her exactly but actually her husband Oscar Goodman (former mayor before Carolyn Goodman) does. He has a restaurant named Oscar's Steakhouse inside some Plaza hotel. Well looking at the whole video it does seems like she doesn't care about welfare of people and only has her own interests. She can talk about caring about the casino workers but in a way she is not caring about them also.

Well if they ever get divorced, she's gonna own them anyway :)

If that is his husband, then that is their business since they are married, and probably conjugal properly, so there is a personal interest.
Most of the politicians have business, and some business owners even want to become a politician to be in power and to protect their interest.

So for the personal interest they will want top open the casino in these days only to make money ?  :(
This is not a right time to open the casinos and if anyone opens it, gamblers should boycott it and make them realize that they have done wrong.

Is it still surprising? I guess not and we know on how those people who are on the right power will do things according to their interest it doesnt matter if it would neglect out others safety or situation as long they would able to achieve their goal.I dont know if those claims above do have sufficient proofs about interest matters but if thats the case then that thing can really be complaint on.

Its not really the right time to open up these businesses yet it do involves crowd but actually there are already establishments who already opened up their doors but following a very strict safety procedure against the virus.

But if people care about their health, they will not come out and go to that casino if the casino is not safe or the owner cannot give protection to them. They will think twice to risk their life to meet many people in that place, and they will better stay at their home. It is okay if she wants to re-open the casinos, but she needs to think about his people lives and don't let them worry about their health because the pandemic still at their city.

That ciuld be a motive, yes. But on the other hand, life needs to get back to normal sooner or later and that includes casionos too
I don't know the exact number of infected in Las Vegas and how the overall epidemic situation stands but I guess that with high hygene and social distancing measures it could be feasible. Of course, I also think that experts should give their opinion about casino opening but on the other hand one industry shouldn't be in worse position than others - for example if restaurants or shopping malls are open.

The covid hasn't slow down yet, I don't think its good to open. But they can just put a sign there telling "come at your own risk" I don't think the casino will take it as their responsibility to provide health care when the gamblers are affected. Its hard to prevent a contagious disease when we all touch things insides a facility.

People already have fear in their mind about coronavirus. So I think less people would show up but can't say with all the gambling addictions that people have. So there is still a scope of all those addicted gamblers coming out and playing in casinos (if gets opened). Question is why taking such risks?


Haha yeah,  ;D :D

It make sense why she desperately want to open despite the risk that she wants hotel and casinos open. Her cash cow stops producing milk when Covid started infecting people and locking her city. 

Technically she and her husband own it but Impeachment is just exaggerated though. There is far worse problem everywhere in the world and its not gonna slow down if she's to stand trial.