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May 14, 2020, 04:23:09 AM |
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I don't see why not. The pandemic is mostly fake and there's really no need to be scared of the virus.
I read that it's much less lethal than SARS and I haven't seen a panic this big during the SARS epidemic.
The governments are overreacting and we shouldn't force people to stay at home if they feel healthy and want to take a risk. I have been taking a risk since day 1 and feel great.
Just wow ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . I don't know how you able to ignore such thing. Yeah it is true that corona virus is less lethal than the other viruses existed but it's spread rate is no joke. That's what it makes more dangerous, hello? It won't become a pandemic for nothing. I totally disagree for Las Vegas to open their city mainly just for business purposes (eg. Casinos and other amenities) because it is very risky. We can't disregard the tendency of getting a second wave of covid once they open since gamblers all over their country will come over there for sure. There are unbelievably selfish people. If you are young and strong, you are probably not afraid of how lethal covid is even if you are infected. But are you not gonna consider those people around you or those who come in contact with you who are very vulnerable to succumb fatally to the same virus? Just look at the numbers and you will see we are increasing to millions and millions of infections despite the lockdowns everywhere.
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May 17, 2020, 07:22:11 PM |
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Just wow ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . I don't know how you able to ignore such thing. Yeah it is true that corona virus is less lethal than the other viruses existed but it's spread rate is no joke. Common cold also isn't deadly and its spread rate is no joke. Most of us get it once a year. That's what it makes more dangerous, hello? It won't become a pandemic for nothing. It became a pandemic because the government officials overreacted. The bans are already being lifted. The virus has been spreading in February and is spreading now. It's just not as deadly as they had thought. There are unbelievably selfish people. If you are young and strong, you are probably not afraid of how lethal covid is even if you are infected. But are you not gonna consider those people around you or those who come in contact with you who are very vulnerable to succumb fatally to the same virus?
Just look at the numbers and you will see we are increasing to millions and millions of infections despite the lockdowns everywhere.
Those who feel vulnerable and feel scared can stay at home. It doesn't mean we all have to.
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May 18, 2020, 12:53:58 PM |
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The powerful casino owners do not want to stop the pandemic, however hehehehe. They only want the mayor to declare a reopening of their casinos and risk the people to get sick of the corona virus hehe
Well.. my question is why blame just the casino owners? We also expect the public to behave responsibly, right? Even if the casinos are open, the gamblers should take stock of the situation in their respective areas and control their urges until it becomes safe to participate in such activities. And until then, there is always the option of gambling online, with the numerous digital casinos. They will have preventive measures when casinos are going to be open so they say. Its the pandemic problem that we are about to provide solutions and one problem that has to be solved is the economy and to make the people around Neveda survive because there has to be something to work on so people will earn and survive this lockdown. Do you really believe any of that? I don't know how social distancing can even be applied in these casinos. And another major risk factor, that everyone tend to ignore is the fact that the vast majority of the clients are either middle-aged or elderly. Obviously we can't shut down the entire economy for 12 months. But right now, I would say that it is too early to open the casinos.
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This article ask questions whether people will come when casinos reopen. https://news3lv.com/news/local/when-we-reopen-will-they-come-mgm-resorts-outlines-new-covid-19-safety-planLAS VEGAS (KSNV) — When we reopen, will they come?
That’s the question awaiting our resort industry when it finally gets the green light to reopen their doors.
How eager will customers be to return, mingle, and have fun?
So I guess people would still have doubt to get into the casino even if it will re open soon, with this, casinos will not be able to earn its usual earning like in the past, and if they will be re open, it will be limited number of people and I hope they'll be able to increase their income over their operational expenses.
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May 19, 2020, 03:23:59 AM |
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Do you really believe any of that? I don't know how social distancing can even be applied in these casinos. And another major risk factor, that everyone tend to ignore is the fact that the vast majority of the clients are either middle-aged or elderly. Obviously we can't shut down the entire economy for 12 months. But right now, I would say that it is too early to open the casinos.
Perhaps, if there are lines of slot machines, they could play 1 empty slot after another, that could probably be the precautionary measures they could implement, or else, staff members need to work double in order to sanitize each and every slot machines every time. But for me, it is irrational to still pursue playing in casinos when in fact, they could play in online casinos where there's no need to fear about spreading the virus nor having infected.
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May 19, 2020, 04:43:29 AM |
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Do you really believe any of that? I don't know how social distancing can even be applied in these casinos. And another major risk factor, that everyone tend to ignore is the fact that the vast majority of the clients are either middle-aged or elderly. Obviously we can't shut down the entire economy for 12 months. But right now, I would say that it is too early to open the casinos.
Perhaps, if there are lines of slot machines, they could play 1 empty slot after another, that could probably be the precautionary measures they could implement, or else, staff members need to work double in order to sanitize each and every slot machines every time. Or they can arrange the place moving spaces against each other ,back to back machines can be more secure and the players wont have any chance to be close to each other right?so they obey the social distancing and alcohol everywhere in casino for more virus free. But for me, it is irrational to still pursue playing in casinos when in fact, they could play in online casinos where there's no need to fear about spreading the virus nor having infected.
But the problem is the government and businesses income.we knew how big taxes this gambling establishment provide for the city and this is not a small amount so pursuing the opening of casinos are indeed .
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May 19, 2020, 05:08:37 AM |
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But the problem is the government and businesses income.we knew how big taxes this gambling establishment provide for the city and this is not a small amount so pursuing the opening of casinos are indeed .
I think that is the reason for many business owners wants to open their business, and not just gambling business wants to open their business, but the other business will want the same thing. Right now, many companies need to make money because they don't have any income now. Besides that, many employees in many companies also need money to buy their needs.
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May 19, 2020, 06:37:27 AM |
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I guess we already have a thread about this one, not only the casinos though but also the stadiums for baseball and more. Bad idea of course. I do not think any responsible citizen consider them to go there. Besides, I do not think outsiders will feel the interest to go now and spend time in casinos. Maybe some local dumbasses will find a way for them to entertain in the empty casino.
It's true that businesses are struggling, employees are struggling but going back to a life where there will be gathering of people is dangerous now until we have a vaccine.
It is really a bad idea for normal people however as a mayor She's up for something. I've read she does not have the power to order these businesses to reopen, what they have is only the guidelines prior to businesses that wants to open amidst the crisis. We know Las Vegas is an expensive city you'll find hotels, restaurants, clubs every where and that's the main point of them to reopen, the heart of Las Vegas lies to those businesses. As a mayor, I don't think it's not worth letting them to reopen, and as if people wants to go clubbing? If the virus isn't still eliminated completely then we will really have a hard time recovering because there is still a risk of getting the virus from other people. We just really need to wait for the vaccine to be discovered, and distributed to the whole world before we can confidently do what we want to do. It is not easy for us to recover and go back to normal especially when this pandemic brought us permanent damage. It is not guaranteed for the casinos to reopen because we know that everything is not going well and the virus is still progressive all around the world. Online gambling casinos are essential for them so that they will have something to have fun off while they're in their house. Opening casinos are not that easy to do especially that governments are prohibiting those mass gatherings.
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May 19, 2020, 07:50:03 AM |
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By allowing people again into casino's you are spreading the risk of spreading the virus again. We can talk about all the precautions and measures but will they be followed properly? Right now the situation we are in is because of the people's and government's carelessness or late action. At any point if someone doesn't follows the protocol properly whether it be staff or the gamblers inside the casino, it will put lives into danger again.
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May 19, 2020, 09:01:32 AM |
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Reopening everything in the middle of the crisis is obviously a bad decision because it might worsen the situation.
It will.. that is why it did not happen, otherwise people will blame her and she has no power to re open an establishment that are required to be close at this time, so she'll be breaking the law of the land, and she'll face the consequences of her action. She may not succeed in what she wants, I think there's still a little consequence of what she said on the national TV. Saying that in the middle of the pandemic, shows what kind of leader she is. I think her people saw that the way she thinks won't help them in times of crisis. Better for them to learn and not to let their next mayor have such kind of attitude. Right now, I think casinos are still planning on what's the best they can do in case they will re-open again. Planning is really important before making any decision, unlike that mayor. She just wants to re-open every business without thinking or preparing of any concrete plan. They can't just make things back to normal that easily especially that their country is heavily affected by the virus.
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May 19, 2020, 09:01:51 AM |
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By allowing people again into casino's you are spreading the risk of spreading the virus again. We can talk about all the precautions and measures but will they be followed properly? Right now the situation we are in is because of the people's and government's carelessness or late action. At any point if someone doesn't follows the protocol properly whether it be staff or the gamblers inside the casino, it will put lives into danger again.
If the government will allow this to happen, they will surely monitor the situation closely, and if it will not be followed properly, a sanction will be given to the casino like cancellation of license to operate, that's the kind of measure a casino would not think of messing out.
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By allowing people again into casino's you are spreading the risk of spreading the virus again. We can talk about all the precautions and measures but will they be followed properly? Right now the situation we are in is because of the people's and government's carelessness or late action. At any point if someone doesn't follows the protocol properly whether it be staff or the gamblers inside the casino, it will put lives into danger again.
Well, they have an antibodies and Trump revealed that he is using malaria drug (probably hydroxychloroquine) to prevent him from being affected by the virus. This move by their mayor is pure greediness. They didn't think the lives of their countrymen. Some of the countries are afraid that the second wave may happen and here they are risking the lives of their people by opening casinos for their economy. Their economy has been destroyed when they did the Quantitative Easing and the recovery of their economy will take years to come back again to its normal state. The economy of their country is more important than the health of their people which is a bad move for me. I don't like this idea by their mayor and I don't think that there are gamblers who are willing to risk their lives and will go to a casino just to gamble.
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May 19, 2020, 09:43:27 AM |
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By allowing people again into casino's you are spreading the risk of spreading the virus again. We can talk about all the precautions and measures but will they be followed properly? Right now the situation we are in is because of the people's and government's carelessness or late action. At any point if someone doesn't follows the protocol properly whether it be staff or the gamblers inside the casino, it will put lives into danger again.
If the government will allow this to happen, they will surely monitor the situation closely, and if it will not be followed properly, a sanction will be given to the casino like cancellation of license to operate, that's the kind of measure a casino would not think of messing out. and maybe they will allow at least 30-40% of the total capacity of the casino because i think this is enough players to cover the expenses of gambling operation per day.
So I guess people would still have doubt to get into the casino even if it will re open soon, with this, casinos will not be able to earn its usual earning like in the past, and if they will be re open, it will be limited number of people and I hope they'll be able to increase their income over their operational expenses.
If i am to decide?i will never be the first player to enter casinos this part of time and rather wait for at least months before entering casino again since i have been doing such before the lockdown happens so what for me to ask a little longer.
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May 19, 2020, 12:29:38 PM |
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By allowing people again into casino's you are spreading the risk of spreading the virus again. We can talk about all the precautions and measures but will they be followed properly? Right now the situation we are in is because of the people's and government's carelessness or late action. At any point if someone doesn't follows the protocol properly whether it be staff or the gamblers inside the casino, it will put lives into danger again.
If the government will allow this to happen, they will surely monitor the situation closely, and if it will not be followed properly, a sanction will be given to the casino like cancellation of license to operate, that's the kind of measure a casino would not think of messing out. Surely there is a extreme measures, an if they violate by not implementing that measures, a loss of business license is like a loss of billions of income for this big casino, they will stake their license here for their request that they will be able to operate again, they will make sure everything will work from their end.
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May 19, 2020, 01:18:39 PM |
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By allowing people again into casino's you are spreading the risk of spreading the virus again. We can talk about all the precautions and measures but will they be followed properly? Right now the situation we are in is because of the people's and government's carelessness or late action. At any point if someone doesn't follows the protocol properly whether it be staff or the gamblers inside the casino, it will put lives into danger again.
If the government will allow this to happen, they will surely monitor the situation closely, and if it will not be followed properly, a sanction will be given to the casino like cancellation of license to operate, that's the kind of measure a casino would not think of messing out. Surely there is a extreme measures, an if they violate by not implementing that measures, a loss of business license is like a loss of billions of income for this big casino, they will stake their license here for their request that they will be able to operate again, they will make sure everything will work from their end. I think the only reason why they are making possible for those sector to operate is for tax money. Like it or hate lot of country are suffering for economic damage of this virus and they are gonna make a way to fix it. Allowing casino' to operate is going to be a huge risk for the people that are going there! And we all know that a lot of people are dumb enough to risk their life just to gamble. Opening a casino in the middle of a crisis is purely selfish idea. Just for me tho.
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May 19, 2020, 01:44:40 PM |
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By allowing people again into casino's you are spreading the risk of spreading the virus again. We can talk about all the precautions and measures but will they be followed properly? Right now the situation we are in is because of the people's and government's carelessness or late action. At any point if someone doesn't follows the protocol properly whether it be staff or the gamblers inside the casino, it will put lives into danger again.
But what if they put sanitizer next to each table or slot machine? Make a distance of more than 2 meters from each player, make regular room disinfection more often and put air cleaning hardware on max power. Also make a defensive screen for dealer (like it is used in cashbox in the shops). In addition to giving free masks. There are cameras everyone. It is easy to find out which gambler doesnt use mask or etc. Or limit the amount of gamblers in area who wants to play. It will be a best solution for gamblers, casinos and national treasury ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 19, 2020, 05:23:09 PM |
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But what if they put sanitizer next to each table or slot machine? Make a distance of more than 2 meters from each player, make regular room disinfection more often and put air cleaning hardware on max power. Also make a defensive screen for dealer (like it is used in cashbox in the shops). In addition to giving free masks. There are cameras everyone. It is easy to find out which gambler doesnt use mask or etc. Or limit the amount of gamblers in area who wants to play. It will be a best solution for gamblers, casinos and national treasury ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I read somewhere that the sanitizer kills 99% of the germs, and the remaining 1% survive. That said, we need to remember the fact that the virus spreads through air. What will happen in case anyone sneezes or coughs? Are they going to evacuate the entire building and then sanitize it every-time someone sneezes? I am telling you.. these proposals are very difficult to implement in reality.
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May 19, 2020, 05:38:22 PM |
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I read somewhere that the sanitizer kills 99% of the germs, and the remaining 1% survive. That said, we need to remember the fact that the virus spreads through air. What will happen in case anyone sneezes or coughs? Are they going to evacuate the entire building and then sanitize it every-time someone sneezes? I am telling you.. these proposals are very difficult to implement in reality.
Do you really think these casino owners don't think about that? In every casino, there is surely a strict implementation of those people who are only allowed to go in. If a person were noticed having a continuous cough or sneeze, the possibility for these people to not enter the casino might happen. If it just casual sneezes and coughs, they might allow but since the strict implementation is happening, surely they will be monitored. They are not doing that suicidal plan without preparations. I'm against too at their plan but if there's no choice, as people there also need jobs, they just need to follow the protocol. And don't worry as I think only few people will go here because of the fact that majority is afraid.
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May 19, 2020, 07:10:07 PM Last edit: May 19, 2020, 07:24:17 PM by verita1 |
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Casinos are not an essential activity, They have not yet been given the green light to reopen in Las Vegas. The good thing is that in Nevada the rate of infected people was controlled.
Now to lifting of confinement the essential activities businesses are being carried out by phase first. Casino owners are eager to reopen under strict preventative measures such as make testing Coronavirus for their employees.
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May 19, 2020, 07:26:04 PM |
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Casinos, not being an essential activity, have not yet been given the green light to reopen in Las Vegas. The good thing is that in Nevada the rate of infected people was controlled.
Now to lifting of confinement the essential activities businesses are being carried out by phase first. Casino owners are eager to reopen under strict preventative measures such as make testing Coronavirus for their employees.
Who wont really be that eager on re-opening up their business? This doesnt only talks about economic matters but also into their own personal gains since these are businesses and this doesnt only particularly talks about casinos and other establishments or services as well.We know that it would really be sustainable if it would took so long for them not to operate and its just normal that in case of some re-opening of these businesses then expected that they would really follow out strict measures.
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