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Title: Cøbra wants to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 14, 2020, 04:44:05 AM
I have no idea if it is already posted earlier as I really not much active in this forum. But a quick scan in "Meta" shows me it is not discussed here.


Quoting the actual announcement.

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First of all, happy halving to everyone!

I just want to inform that I will gradually be reducing my involvement in Bitcoin.org this year, it won't happen instantly but hopefully by the end of the year, I won't be around anymore. Over the years, I'm glad to have helped contribute to a project that has let so many millions of people learn about Bitcoin. It's really a massive honour. The domain name will be left in trusted hands, I have a few people in mind already. Alternatively, if anyone knows of any individuals or organisations that would be good, feel free to suggest (either here, or privately -- just DM me on Twitter). Ultimately, trust is very hard to measure, but I plan to be thorough and meticulous here and find the right people.

I guess for a lot of people, this will probably be some sort of relief. I can't say I've gotten along well with everyone, and some people have questioned my judgement. Hopefully whoever comes after me doesn't get sucked into drama as easily as I sometimes did (though that's also largely a product of being around in pretty dramatic times). Bitcoin.org really is an amazing resource, and we need to continue working on it and keep improving it. With Bitcoin being as complicated as it is for new people to understand, sites like Bitcoin.org are key to getting more mainstream adoption. Especially in avoiding getting Bitcoin labelled as some get rich quick scheme.

If we've had any collaboration over the years; I appreciate your contributions, and have learned a lot from many of you. I wish everyone good luck and success. Thank you. No doubt Bitcoin will keep succeeding and reaching new milestones with such a great community behind it.

Actual renouncement can be read at https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/issues/3332

And one more question arises, will he want to part away with "Bitcointalk.org" domain too? (I remember he own this domain too).


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: cabalism13 on May 14, 2020, 04:53:28 AM
And one more question arises, will he want to part away with "Bitcointalk.org" domain too? (I remember he own this domain too).

Answer will be found in here: (probably)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241347.msg54243783#msg54243783


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: Raytheon on May 14, 2020, 04:55:05 AM
Actually there was a topic talking about this already (in another section): So it looks like Cobra is planning on passing on the Bitcoin.org domain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248291.0) by arbiter5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2554568) but it didn't gather much attention.

Anyway, there was an annoucement of theymos about the ownership separation between bitcointalk.org and bitcoin.org. Cobra now owns bitcoin.org and it's legal if he wants to sell it: Domain name update (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241347.msg54243783#msg54243783).


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: Lauda on May 14, 2020, 05:22:35 AM
If the right person is chosen, we will be finally rid of this cancer. Very good improvement.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: YOSHIE on May 14, 2020, 05:34:16 AM
And one more question arises, will he want to part away with "Bitcointalk.org" domain too? (I remember he own this domain too).
OP, how about this one:
Topic: Cobra's open letter to the Bitcoin community to change the mining algorithm (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3016117.0)

Yes, @cobra once sent the letter.

Or maybe this thread can add information.
Topic: Does Cobra control something over Bitcointalk and Bitcoin.org ? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3284381.0)


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: hacker1001101001 on May 14, 2020, 05:54:20 AM
It's sad too see a evil winning sometimes. Hope the domain is transferred to someone with a neutral view around the Bitcoin conspiracies.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: TECSHARE on May 14, 2020, 06:01:49 AM
If the right person is chosen, we will be finally rid of this cancer. Very good improvement.

I didn't know you were leaving. At least this is good news.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: arbiter5 on May 14, 2020, 06:07:28 AM
Apparently Roger Vermin is interested in buying the domain. Hopefully Cobra won't get tempted.

https://i.imgur.com/Gl56CxV.png
https://reddit.com/r/btc/comments/gj36c9/bitcoinorg_owner_cobra_on_blockstream_fucking/fqiaylq/


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: Lauda on May 14, 2020, 06:16:45 AM
Apparently Roger Vermin is interested in buying the domain. Hopefully Cobra won't get tempted.
The scammer was always ready to purchase it. Despite my dislike of Cobra, I do not think that he is that dishonest.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: UserU on May 14, 2020, 07:38:09 AM
Apparently Roger Vermin is interested in buying the domain. Hopefully Cobra won't get tempted.


He might assign someone else to purchase, who knows.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: stompix on May 14, 2020, 07:48:43 AM
He might assign someone else to purchase, who knows.

I doubt it is going to be a purchase and also Roger Ver will not be able to find a trustable person to represent him, or will a trustable person going to play his game.
Besides:

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Current active contributors like Will Binns and Craig Watkins are already among the people I had in mind.
Unless some past questionable behaviour is unearthed, it makes the most sense to go with them, but one of the reasons why I created the issue was to get alternatives to the "obvious" choices.




Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: ABCbits on May 14, 2020, 08:38:39 AM
Hope the domain is transferred to someone with a neutral view around the Bitcoin conspiracies.

IMO people or organization who directly involved in Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency or Blockchain world most likely can't be neutral.

After saw the announcement, i think lukechilds (https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/issues/3332#issuecomment-628409704) to transfer the domain to EFF or Linux Foundation is good idea.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 14, 2020, 08:41:49 AM
I think handing it over to an organization, or at least a small group of people, rather than a single person would be a much better solution. Such an organization could include people with the most commits to bitcoin.org, such as Will Binns and David Harding, the most commits to bitcoin core such as Wladimir van der Laan and Pieter Wuille, and some other well known and trusted developers like Greg Maxwell and Andrew Chow. These are just names I've pulled off the top of my head - would be interested to hear other suggestions (or indeed, if the people I've named would actually have any interest in doing so).


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: LoyceV on May 14, 2020, 09:56:03 AM
Apparently Roger Vermin is interested in buying the domain.
Would/could this be something Bitcointalk can use some of the forum's funds for if it comes to that?
Not that I expect Cøbra (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249495) to sell out like that, but it could be a good use of forum funds in the interest of Bitcoin in general.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: arbiter5 on May 14, 2020, 10:39:27 AM
Apparently Roger Vermin is interested in buying the domain. Hopefully Cobra won't get tempted.
The scammer was always ready to purchase it. Despite my dislike of Cobra, I do not think that he is that dishonest.
I really can't say anything about him as I barely know Cobra, but let's just say that money can easily change people's minds so let's not slash out this possibility.

Would/could this be something Bitcointalk can use some of the forum's funds for if it comes to that?
Not that I expect Cøbra (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249495) to sell out like that, but it could be a good use of forum funds in the interest of Bitcoin in general.
Though I'd like to stay optimistic, time will tell if Cobra's going to hand over the domain to someone reputable or just sell it. After all, he said he's going to retire the "Cobra" pseudonym, so his reputation after handing over or selling the domain wouldn't really matter.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: hacker1001101001 on May 14, 2020, 10:44:48 AM
Hope the domain is transferred to someone with a neutral view around the Bitcoin conspiracies.

IMO people or organization who directly involved in Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency or Blockchain world most likely can't be neutral.

I don't get why they can't be, but they should be to boost the community interest in Bitcoin. I even think Cøbra (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249495) was a neutral guy afterall.


Would/could this be something Bitcointalk can use some of the forum's funds for if it comes to that?
Not that I expect Cøbra (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249495) to sell out like that, but it could be a good use of forum funds in the interest of Bitcoin in general.

It's more about the future ownership of the domain in right hands, than the funds involved. Just saying.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: Lauda on May 14, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
Apparently Roger Vermin is interested in buying the domain. Hopefully Cobra won't get tempted.
The scammer was always ready to purchase it. Despite my dislike of Cobra, I do not think that he is that dishonest.
I really can't say anything about him as I barely know Cobra, but let's just say that money can easily change people's minds so let's not slash out this possibility.
Speak for yourself. It can do so for weak willed people and those that were actually corruptible to begin with. Money just makes them expose their true character.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: arbiter5 on May 14, 2020, 11:13:12 AM
Apparently Roger Vermin is interested in buying the domain. Hopefully Cobra won't get tempted.
The scammer was always ready to purchase it. Despite my dislike of Cobra, I do not think that he is that dishonest.
I really can't say anything about him as I barely know Cobra, but let's just say that money can easily change people's minds so let's not slash out this possibility.
Speak for yourself. It can do so for weak willed people and those that were actually corruptible to begin with. Money just makes them expose their true character.
Without a doubt. Time will tell.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: dkbit98 on May 14, 2020, 12:15:52 PM
Apparently Roger Vermin is interested in buying the domain. Hopefully Cobra won't get tempted.

https://i.imgur.com/Gl56CxV.png
https://reddit.com/r/btc/comments/gj36c9/bitcoinorg_owner_cobra_on_blockstream_fucking/fqiaylq/

Now isn't that interesting.
MemoryDealers back in action straight from Saint Kitts  :P
Propaganda machine is ready. Engine started.


Title: Re: Cøbra wants to part ways with bitcoin.org
Post by: Timelord2067 on May 14, 2020, 12:55:36 PM
You might want to correct the title of your thread - there's user

Cøbra - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=249495

Code:
Name: 	Cøbra
Custom Title: Bitcoin.org domain administrator
Posts: 115
Activity: 115
Merit: 342
Position: Member
DT level: DT2
Date Registered: 14 February 2014, 07:43:50
Last Active: 19 April 2020, 03:04:50

Email: hidden
Website: Bitcoin.org
Current Status: Offline Offline
Admin notes: This is one of the administrators of bitcoin.org

Local Time: 14 May 2020, 12:53:35
Trust: +4 / =0 / -1

then there's user

Cobra - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49473

Code:
Name: 	Cobra
Posts: 289
Activity: 289
Merit: 250
Position: Sr. Member
Status: INACTIVE
Date Registered: 11 January 2012, 01:51:11
Last Active: 13 April 2017, 00:55:01

Email: hidden
Website:
Current Status: Offline Offline

Local Time: 14 May 2020, 12:53:16
Trust: +0 / =0 / -0

Two very different users.




(and "wants" does not have an apostrophe in the spelling... ) ::)


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: DooMAD on May 14, 2020, 06:57:19 PM
But a quick scan in "Meta" shows me it is not discussed here.

To be pedantic, it arguably doesn't belong in Meta as bitcoin.org and bitcointalk.org are two distinct and separate websites.  I can see why they're still traditionally associated together, though.


Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 14, 2020, 07:18:16 PM
But a quick scan in "Meta" shows me it is not discussed here.

To be pedantic, it arguably doesn't belong in Meta as bitcoin.org and bitcointalk.org are two distinct and separate websites.  I can see why they're still traditionally associated together, though.


I write in beginning that I am not active in this forum an I am impression that  he owns both domain. Now I am clear.

Anyway, there was an annoucement of theymos about the ownership separation between bitcointalk.org and bitcoin.org. Cobra now owns bitcoin.org and it's legal if he wants to sell it: Domain name update (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241347.msg54243783#msg54243783).

You might want to correct the title of your thread - there's user



feedback accepted.


Is anyone from this forum like Theymos can get this domain too?
Do Theymos or anyone in this forum expressed interest in getting the domain.



Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: bonesjonesreturns on May 14, 2020, 07:22:17 PM
Apparently Roger Vermin is interested in buying the domain. Hopefully Cobra won't get tempted.
The scammer was always ready to purchase it. Despite my dislike of Cobra, I do not think that he is that dishonest.
I really can't say anything about him as I barely know Cobra, but let's just say that money can easily change people's minds so let's not slash out this possibility.
Speak for yourself. It can do so for weak willed people and those that were actually corruptible to begin with. Money just makes them expose their true character.

Lol how do you not choke on your own words scammer

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231720.0

Saying cobra is a cancer? Wft? Are you high again?

Nobody gives one fuck about your scammer opinion on others morals.

You are cancer scumbag.

Cobra already gave this forum to theymos and by your convoluted logic you claimed it was done for nefarious reasons.

The guy is graciously leaving with a nice polite message and a scamming piece of dirt like you starts bad mouthing him.

Stfu.

I would say he should just hand it to theymos but since theymos allows proven scammers like you to endanger the forum with your scamming and trust abusing honest whistleblowers then than is cause for concern.

I would say cobra should pass it to partially  theymos part someone 100% honest who will never tolerate any scamming or injustice at all.

I would give it to ver over you or anyone of your pals.



Title: Re: Cobra want's to part away with bitcoin.org
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 14, 2020, 08:06:02 PM



Look like I have to lock it, I was not looking for these discussion on my thread.