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As mentioned in the title, Bitwings is company that promises smartphone with the capability of mining up to 2 ETH per month. Anyone with the basic knowledge of crypto mining knows that this number is simply not possible to get with smartphone. They have other questionable promises, like guaranteeing value of 1 BWN=0,20 USD, no matter what.

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Website https://bitwings.org/
Archive https://web.archive.org/web/20191021215311/https://bitwings.org/

This is their smartphone, also known as Minephone WX. It will cost you 6000 BWN, or between 900-1200 USD (depending in which ICO phase you bought tokens) When you look at the specs, it is nothing special, but thanks to the magical software, it will be capable of doing for what you usually need few mining rigs.
https://i.postimg.cc/8zPHbF9g/minephone.png


When you get your MinephoneWX, you will be able to chose among few different mining contracts, and for that you will have to pay additional activation fee in ETH ( or go for free option, which will bring you 0.2 ETH per month).
https://i.postimg.cc/D03VWQCT/minephone-minign-contracts.png


But that is not all. Bitwings already has working cloud mining that looks like a classic ponzi scheme, as they promise 10% monthly profit for the period of 3 years. Here are few of their packages (they have smaller and bigger ones than those in the picture).
https://bitwingsprofit.com/
https://archive.vn/cv0T7
https://i.postimg.cc/RhhtHfqg/bitwings-packages.png


One more red flag is hiring bumping service for their ANN thread in order to fake interest. Some accounts are already tagged, mostly those that were active at the beginning.

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So, what are your thoughts, does their promises seem plausible and realistic or is this just another scam in making?

It looks to me that you will not be mining with the phone it self but the phone is used as a wallet and cold storage(?) from what I read in the screenshots. I haven't open the website coz I don't trust those kind of sites anyway.
Purchasing mining contract for me it means that you will be borrowing a hash power form their mining farm and the revenue can be up to 2 Eth.
Anyway it looks specious.

First things I noticed on their websites:
- ICO
- Bad english language (that is ok because they are located in Spain or South America)
- 100% guarantee emission value
- They guarantee BWN token price  $0.20
- Producing up to 2 Ethereum per month.

Not sure how they can guarantee anything.
It should be examined if they have real connection with wings mobile
https://wingsmobile.com/

I am not sure I can call this a ponzi, bust just a regular risky ICO project.
It is funny they have some concerts like this:  ;D
https://youtu.be/7bzOtGxzjSM

Thing is, that mining won't be possible without their special phone, with special software, built with "neural technology", whatever that is.


When you look at the profit, somehow I doubt that ETH will come from their mining farm. For example, let's say you buy "Enterprise" package, that will give you 2.02 ETH per month, for 36 months. That will cost you 13 ETH+ 6000 BWN for phone (approximately 5 ETH), making it total price of 18 ETH. After 36 month, you should have a bit over 72 ETH, and that is  300% profit. I am not an expert in mining, but that doesn't sound right.


I have issues with such a high return. From what I know about cloud mining, in most cases it is a pure ponzi scheme, especially if they promise something too good to be true. And 300% profit in 3 years sounds like that.

Looks like pure scam. Phones are not created for mining in any sense nowadays.

For me even this repeated numbers like "0.2 ETH" are scammy in its own way as many such cloud mining ponzies don't even consider changing the numbers.  :(

Btw, this thread should be in scam accusation with a flag.

After launching their ICO i made a short investigation about them. Last year during ICO sale i visited their team section and found one of their team members social media details. After that i tried to contact that person through facebook to confirm the relation between wings mobile and Bitwing. Sorry to say that he didn't make any reply from his end. From my investigation i didn't find anything on his profile which relates with Bitwings.

Take a look here;

Name: David Gonzalez (https://www.facebook.com/DavidGonzalezDeCeliz?__tn__=%2Cd*F*F-R&eid=ARB5Givxd90XL2QA8o9vYmbfhABEMWKT3oB-4WIiIsXrKf3PbBUA6vbi3GIL7yz1yxwr24zgsAdWqZHn&tn-str=*F) (Affiliate Director at WINGS Mobile)
In "Bitwings" they are showing him as their "Network Sales Director".


"Bitwings" used another picture on their team section which i marked on the first picture. In website the name is "VIRGINIA ALBELDA" and they are showing her as their social media manager. In real life she is David Gonzalez's wife and the picture taken from her husband's facebook.

Mining on a mobile phone? We all know that this could do more damage to the phone itself rather than profit from it anything? I've seen in the past both apple and android app stores removing apps related to mining as they stated that it could decrease your phone's battery life much faster because mining softwares in phones are designed to utilize the 100% processing phone at it can make your phone's temps to rise up even higher compared to graphically challenging mobile games. If this thing is true even if the phone is 900 bucks I don't think mining 2 ETH per month is even enough for your capital to return, the phone will be not operational before you get your investment back.

And check this out the phone is even part of the mobile world congress (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxYglICbnt0) last 2019.

It was weird that going though their topic I saw a +1 account clearly involved in bumping
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=288471
The plus +1 is because of Ecuamobi feedback from 2014, I have a feeling that is a bought or hacked account

As for their phone, is probably a clone of a clone, the best match being an umidigi z2 pro, a 300$ phone

Bitwings: Dimensions:153.4mmx74.4mmx8.3 mm. Weight: 165 gr. Screen Specifications: 6.2” (inches) IPS FHD+. Screen Resolution: 1.080 x 2.246 Pixels. Chipset: MediaTek Helio P60 – AI CPU. CPU specifications: Octa Core – 4x A73 2.0GHz + 4x A53 2.0GHz. RAM specifications: 6 GB. SAMSUNG 16 MP + 8 MP

Umidigi (https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-umidigi-z2-pro) Size 74.4 mm • 153.4 mm • 8.3 mm Weight 165 g Diagonal 6.2" Resolution 1080 x 2246 px Model MediaTek Helio P60 CPU 4x 2.00GHz ARM Cortex A73 + 4x 2.00GHz ARM Cortex A53 RAM 6 GB 16 Mpx Sensor Samsung S5K2P7

Would it mine 2 eth per month? No way in hell.

Now, assuming they have the "software" capable of doing so, why would you sell that thing and not mine by themselves?
Escobar folding phone reloaded.

Yeah, cooltoadfrommoon is part of that bumping group. 3 other accounts that are doing the same thing in their ANN are tex173 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2656096), prettiestgirl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2123670) and NITER2018 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2384329). They are active on Bitwings ANN for quite some time, and recently they started working on another, Coindragon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221321.0), that is some kind of online casino. I doubt that it is an coincidence, same 4 accounts doing the same thing on 2 completely unrelated threads.

Yep, type of the phone that you can easily order in China and just put your name on it, as many other are doing. They have been promising to deliver that phone to people since mid 2019, and people are still waiting for those, while some of them paid for the phone in February/March 2019. Back then 1 BWN=0.1 USD, so price of the phone was 600 USD.
https://i.postimg.cc/Jzf6Nz1M/phone1.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/T25Jd9RH/august.jpg


Official explanation  would be cloud mining I guess, but they advertise it a phone itself would mine that ETH, even comparing it to the mining rig.
https://i.postimg.cc/zfTJj45R/compare.png

But even with cloud mining, profit they promise is way too high and I don't see how can that be sustainable, without them constantly loosing money. Renting 1000 MH/s for 3 years is very expensive, and yet they will charge those that buy the phone only fraction of the real price.

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Another thing that sounds dodgy. They claim that value of BWN will always be at least 0.2 USD when using it to pay for phones, laptops, watches and other stuff from their online and physical stores. I have no idea how they can guarantee something like that, as we know the crypto price volatility.Let's say crypto market crashes, BWN goes down 90%, they will keep selling laptops under price? I honestly doubt that.

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I didn't find any FB posts made by him mentioning Bitwings, but I saw one or two cases of others mentioning it in the comments on his posts. He might be involved in Wings Mobile and Bitwings as well, but that doesn't make their claims more legit, imho. What they promise is simply too good to be true, and we all know how those projects end up.

This table says it all... If this table is placed on their website, they're trying to scam. A phone with those specs having a hashrate ~3 times higher than a rig with 13 GPU's.... Not even taking into account the ridiculously low power draw...

It is on their website indeed, and in few other publications. It sounds much better to potential buyers that phone can mine 2 ETH than "buy our phone that is connected to cloud mining pool". Especially since they claim that there will even be a free option, so if you paid phone 600 USD back in mid 2019, you will get 0.2 ETH per month for 3 years. Sounds like a good deal to those that have no idea how mining works, so no wonder that people started preordering them.

This is wings youtube video from 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXfJYAFIjuY, they have bunch of shills writing fake reviews:

https://i.imgur.com/ps3E1IV.png

Bitwings youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_19ERgZSE also the same fake reviews:

https://i.imgur.com/fBxALLn.png

Actually, person on this video has few videos, including video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8WvafXbwAI) for Smart Trade Coin ICO (Announcement topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059459.0 ) and this project is according to https://fintelreport.com/tag/smart-trade-coin  scam (I didn't check details) and, according to icobench, (https://icobench.com/ico/smart-trade-coin) their team didn't pass KYC test.

Smart Trade Coin is based on 4 pillars:
...while bitwings is based on 2 pillars:
...but they actually have 5 pillars:
source: https://bitwings.org/file/white-paper-2019-en.pdf

Except some random similarities, I didn't find any connection between these two projects, if anyone wants to compare whitepapers here is archived version of Smart Trade Coin's whitepaper http://web.archive.org/web/20190404191820/https://smarttradeico.io/stc-wp.pdf, anyway, this whole project sounds like just another cloud mining scheme.


Real question is, if Bitwing has phones and technology to mine without power consumption since April 2019, why the hell they need other peoples money? Thing is, they don't, according to them, they already have money making machines...

Sounds like a regurgitation of Bitclub but with a phone added in. Hey, scammers gotta change it up every now and then.

In my opinion, anything that promises a set amount of return is a ponzi - there is no way to guarantee a rate when you cannot control the price, network difficulty, or block find for your specific coin.

the only way to guarantee a set rate would be to take in millions from investors and pay it back out in increments - always ensuring you bring in more than you pay out - of course. 

Let's say they've just done a publicity stunt and yeah, the phone comes with a mining contract...
Even if they would try to build a mining company with money from phones, it would be impossible.

The best, absolute best gear that's on the market that could deliver 2 eth a month means one and a half Inno A10 for each contract, but the starting price for that gear would be 4500$, 4.5x times what they get on for the phone, and 2x times what they get fro the plan,  and it would also imply they take the hit for the electricity. And!!!!...it goes with the assumption that Buttercup doesn't wake up in one morning in a bad mood and we see ETH going POS.
Nope, cloud mining, or phone mining, the revenue is in any way impossible for that amount.
I doubt it will even manage to become a ponzi, as I think it is close to impossible for them to pay even a few clients for more than a month.

At least the Finney phone was legit, this one is pure garbage.

I did more research about Bitwings, and watched more of their hilarious videos on youtube :)
Looks like they have most of their funds from Wire transfer (over 74%) if we trust what they say.
That is over 387k USD in total they collected so far.

https://i.imgur.com/P7HBHQs.png

https://i.imgur.com/bdN7T2N.png

Looks like they also collect fund in future time. 343$ collected from August 2020:

https://i.imgur.com/0PlsBWs.jpg

Interesting read is document from Panama - THIS 13 ETHEREUM MINING SERVICE Pre – Agreement:
https://minephone.bitwings.org/file/1000mhs-ethereum-mining-service-contract.pdf
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200617163412/https://minephone.bitwings.org/file/1000mhs-ethereum-mining-service-contract.pdf

https://i.imgur.com/KasIse4.png

https://i.imgur.com/g1p2iyH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ljr2DYT.jpg

Bitwings ETH address:
https://etherscan.io/address/0xDD102e166eDB515863F7A279C849cc24F8ff83Ca

Bitwings BTC address:
can't find it yet (they generate new addresses for users)

Good find! Since they are doing the same thing on their ANN thread, no surprise that they are shilling YouTube videos. I guess they went for full shill package.


There are many questions about Bitwings as they promise a lot, and most of it sounds to good to be true, especially that 300% profit in 3 years part. Promising minimum value of their tokens is not any better either, considering they were selling those tokens for half the price last year.


Damn, that's crazy amount of money needed to produce 2 ETH per month, and yet they promise that for period of 3 years, for such a low price. That 18 ETH they would charge for "Enterprise" contract is cheaper than 1 of that Inno A10miners. And then you add electricity cost etc.. As I thought, their calculation doesn't make any sense.

Therefore making it a classic ponzi, that will go on as long there is influx of new investors that will pay for earlier investors.


Might be that sale is not going as good as they planned, even though it started back in January 2019 so that's why they keep going on with new IEO rounds.

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After everything presented , I think that is obvious what is going on here, so I am raising a flag. Please support

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Probably true.
People will all get their bitwings token they can only be sold at specific price and only in their shops, maybe. :)

Document has more interesting information for examination.

Since the beginning of the sale, they have no consistency. Several times they extended the sale even though when they said they would not extend the sale again, the reality was still doing an extension. I, who initially supported this project, began to get suspicious when I saw inconsistencies from the team. Last month I asked about the process of bitwings phone, because at that time I felt it was normal with the pandemic conditions, but with this thread it convinced me that this project was not entirely reliable.

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If your customer is your priority, your project should have been running better, until now we don't know when your tokens can be sold, from the token sale has been extended repeatedly? With the increasing difficulty of mining, how do you deal with problems on your mobile for ETH mining and are you still sure you can produce 2 ETHs with your phone? You really say "up to 2 ETH", the word "up to" often traps customers in promotions/campaign. Like what happens in e-commerce sales, they say discounts up to 90%, in fact, 90% discounts are only for items that have no value. And maybe your "up to" will have same results, the promotions is up to, but in reality 1 year only 0.00xxxETH  can you give an explanation here?

You should not even expect phones mining 2 ETH/month in any sense. What even dragged you to initally supporting this project is unimaginable.

Haha, I love the way those guys are trying to promote their scam in their scam accusation thread! Defending their position with the "just wait and you'll see" typical scamming scheme. So pathetic.

::)

It's happens when i was join their bounty, after i didn't get the payment and extended sales, i lost my faith for this tokens on may since they are still doesn't get investors. Their presentation is good in beginning so i try to join their campaign 😬

Care to address the issues mentioned in this thread, like 300 % ROI, or how you plan to keep value of the tokens at 0.2 USD when buying your merchandise and not going bankrupt, in case of price dump, shilling your YouTube videos and ANN thread?


I think many fell for this because an actual mobile provider is behind this, and there were  videos showing that phone at some mobile show in Barcelona. And that was enough, people simply switched off their brain and order that phone, without thinking whether something like that is possible.


When I was checking Bitwings i came across their bounty thread, and  I was surprised to see how popular it was, thousands of bounty hunters joined. It will be interesting to see what happens to BWN price once they  list on an exchange and start distributing 4,000,000 BWN  bounty tokens worth 800,000 USD (based on ICO price).

I see and understand. :o



Show in Barcelona is something interesting, yet I don't know from when people got back their faith in Mobile mining, as mostly crypto users know it's not technically possible to profit out of it.

You mean the value of their pocket is your first and only priority.


Do you mean a phone manufacturer?
Having a stand at the MWC is nothing, everyone can get one if they pay a price and show minimum requirements like a registered company and a product, you can get there even as a start-up with just a project with no actual assembly line or final product just a  concept. And, unlike what most might think, it comes cheaper than listing a bitcoin on some exchanges, with 10-20k you get that 4 by 4 stand they showed in video with all the personnel expenses.


Interesting? Nope, we all know what's going to happen, they will keep it alive for a few months to dump more tokens, throw a few hundred $ on some ann bumping, Reddit posts, youtube videos, and then ...to the garbage bin like all the rest.

Nah, more like mobile carrier. From what i saw, they are mostly active in South America, that's their target market.
https://wingsmobile.com/


Yeah I understand all that, but as we can see, people fell for that. Same goes for having your own mobile phone/laptop/whatever. You go to China and buy bunch of generic devices and then they just put your brand on it. Voila, you now have your own mobile phone.


Yep, that's why all those bounty campaigns offer huge amount of tokens, "worth" hundreds of thousands, and sometimes even millions, as they know that they can promise anything, bounty hunters will buy it. That brings us to one of their promises: guaranteed minimum value of BWN when buying from their stores. I can already see how they gonna tackle that after tokens gets dumped: they will simply say that their merch is out of stock. As simple as that :D

Our tokensale was extended once to meet the demands of our customers and investors, and once due to the pandemic as we were right at the peak. Closing the sale during this time wouldn't be the right decision for anyone in any field. Even you know and understand that. We NEVER hid any evidence or fact from our customers. Ofcourse, not all information is for everyone. We have all our customers in our official Telegram channel where we have repeatedly and DAILY provided updates on what we are doing, how we are doing and when.

About the Minephone, the launch is in 1 hour, maybe you can have a look at the details and here upto doesn't mean what others are doing, when we said 2 eth per month, then IT IS 2 eth per month. We would love to clear all your doubts as we have hidden nothing! We have a separate website and manual dedicated for Minephone, to be promoted from today, that explains what all you need and how the entire process will work.

Ps: NOT Everyone is being fake here. And accusing someone without knowing the entire details is very wrong.

We hope to have you on board as the Minephone WX goes on sale today!

Now that's something solid !

I would be waiting for an hour to see a phone mining 2 ETH per month. I would just bang my head on miners at-last if it's true.

People started ordering phone back in February/March 2019, and now you said that Minephone just went on sale? So what was before then, when people ordered the phones and you promised to distribute them In July/August 2019. 1 year ago.

But yeah, July 1st came and passed, and nothing changed. You are still promising the phone, kicking from Telegram group anyone that asks you questions about it, and still using shill accounts in ANN thread. Business as usual in Bitwings.

If you have followed Bitwings properly, that was our preorder session. Not an instant-buy session. The customers read and saw everything and AGREED to pre-order. We have delayed the delivery to meet the best interests of our customers and launch the phone at the right time. If we are bringing this amidst a pandemic, it should prove a lot about our authenticity and base. Please keep following us like you do by seeing who we banned from telegram, where we don't have place for fake profiles.

Thank you.

Now you say it was just a presale, but in March 2019 you were promising people that Minephone will be distributed in July 2019.
July came and passed, then you promised phone distribution in December 2019. Nothing happened. And now you are using Covid19 situation to further delay distribution.

What do you have to say about those fake conversations with shill accounts in your ANN? Those are genuine people that are showing genuine interest in your project?

How can a pandemic that has appeared in January stop delivery in July the previous year?


https://archive.vn/1Ecuv#msg50990155


https://archive.vn/OX05s#msg51594003

https://archive.vn/uxZJz#msg52060485

I'm genuinely interested in who are you going to blame for this!
The previous support person that worked and was actually a spy from the CIA and make fake promises to destroy your company on the orders of the NWO?



Hihi, are there enough messages in that thread made by genuine users for a second page?  ;D
@Bitwings, ask for a refund from the guy that sold you that bumping service, the rules have changed now, and your topic will never make it to the first page with those bots, all you do there is useless, nobody is showing the slightest interest in it, especially with all the red tags your bots have.

They were giving same ansers on Telegram, and then saying here it was just "pre order". I really wonder how they gonna wiggle out of this. Naturally, one of the shill accounts is asking that, pretending to be interested, and hoping others will jump in when they hear that phones will be delivered shortly.


I must say that there is some poetic justice here, don't you agree? Scammers getting scammed by another scammer :D

So, bumping service told Bitwings that if they hire them, they will get extra attention on bitcointalk forum, and attract potential investors. What they forgot to tell them is that bumping doesn't work anymore, and all they can get is negative attention. Which happened in the end, that's how i stumbled upon Bitwings and their ridiculous claims.

So, has anyone got their magic phone already? I’m really looking forward to reading some real user reviews.  ;)

I actually participated in the bounty of this company hoping to get a phone that would mine me 2ETH. How shallow I was I wouldn't be able to explain, they had good inforgraphics and promised more than they could offer.

You cannot mine with a phone 2ETH per month. I read the whitepaper but it's unclear how a device will be capable to produce more than 1000 MH/s if it's meant to mine.

its simply cloud mining - the phone is not doing the mining, simply the link to the mining? who knows.

You are not the only one. Thousands of bounty hunters unfortunately joined. They indeed had good marketing campaign, they invested some money into it so for many people this company and their phone that can mine 2 ETH per month seemed legit. Especially since they boasted with vides and photos of that phone from mobile show in Barcelona.


Yep, they will use cloud mining, and phone mining part is just a gimmick here, to attract people to invest as it sounds much better that phone will mine ETH. Otherwise they would be tagged instantly as just another cloud ponzi mining scam, what they actually are, with 300% ROI promise.

Don't worry sir.
We are following your activities very much, and we are waiting to see your team end up arrested soon if you don't deliver magical phones.

And what is this shit about pandemic?
You do not deliver phones personally and you don't lick them before sending.... that is if this magical phones even exist.

It is already 10 days from your first announcement that the launch will be on the 1st of July, then on the 2nd of July was this message quoted above but still, there is nothing until today.

So where are these special websites and where is this launch ongoing? How to find detailed info, where?

PS
There was no significant spike in the hash rate of the ETH network, so I assume clients are still waiting for their magic phones from "preorder session" ;)  ;D ;D ;D.

I'm not gonna be surprised that they've postponed distribution until ETH2.0 is released, just for convinience sake, so they don't have to update their magic phones later

SCAM Bounty = SCAM TEAM: https://t.me/bitwingsbounty

This "mine_phones" are complete nonsense  ;D
specially for ETH 2.0  ;)

But they need to have time to sell  ;D ;D ;D

Did you get paid for this post?

This is too good to be true to mine ETH with ordinary smartphone as they claim on their whitepaper and Website, I bet they would have Mine the whole Ethereum if its real. They concluded their IEO and kept extending token sales. As of  Early January 2020, they said ICO will be over by June 2020, this is July and they are hoping by end of August.

You obviously don't understand a word of english....

Why so serious? ;D ;D ;D
Sponsored Bitwings SCAM bounty in 3 groups, @cryptochild07 knows the details. Good job, btcltcdigger  ;D
https://i.imgur.com/6iKW0RR.jpg
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ExYgl54Ltz5XpY0ZBftRpf0FdEe8GYBOXF-6Yacl88U/edit#gid=362116519

Yeah, check the the date. That was over a year ago.
At that time the project lookes normal.
Unfortunately i dont own a time machine and cant change what happened a year ago.

Besides, by the looks of it, i got scammed as well.

P. S: I see you also did this bounty. Why did you promote it if you knew it was a scam?

Yes, this bounty was over a year ago.
Today's new rules
https://i.imgur.com/9RJ4PrL.jpg
 ;D
https://i.imgur.com/VWxt44n.jpg
 ;D
Any proofs? No  ;)
I see you have a reward in the final list. Good job.

I waited again for more than a week for the update about the launch, but I am not surprised to see no answer and even more scam accusations from members and bounty hunters.

That was a pure joke already a week ago because they posted here about the launch "in the next hour!!!" at the beginning of this month  ;D.

If they ever come back, I am sure it will be only more excuses and delays.

Actually yes, i do have proof

Exibit A: Your data in bitwings "old" spreadsheet

https://i.imgur.com/68M2Fnm.png

And just to avoid someone saying "that could be someone impersonating him", it's not:

https://i.imgur.com/J4cFF08.png

What's also interesting, he was quick to delete his application in the last 12 hours.
But never fear, i archived it http://archive.is/ASAWR

https://i.imgur.com/Yfhhn6M.png

And what?)
Where do you see my good work for this project?)
But now I'm promoting it. Thanks for the help.

Bitwings promises magic smartphone that can mine UP TO 2 ETH/mo.
https://i.imgur.com/a7eCXp2.jpg
How much?)

Ok.
But why do we need this "smartphone" for Ethereum 2.0? Bye bye mining )

In the old spreadsheet where you got weekly stakes.... every week, for linkeding promotion....

No Stakes in the Old spreadshit. You are a PRO bounty manager, i know  ;D ;D ;D
No reward for me and 90% others bounty hunters. I`m not OK with this.
So we have a Scam Bounty - YES! Scam Bounty = Scam Team.

Really?

https://i.imgur.com/z59nKCp.png



That bounty wasn't managed by me

It seems to me that you both agree that Bitwings is a scam project and a scam bounty campaign. It is possible that serg1e simply misunderstood btcltcdigger's post and wrongly concluded that he still supports the project. I see no reason to argue further.  ;)

@serg1e, as far as I can see, btcltcdigger has nothing to do with the bitwings bounty campaign. Why do you think he was a bounty manager?

I didn't say that he is a bounty manager of this project  ;)
He is a PRO bounty manager.
https://i.imgur.com/YnCZ2qd.jpg
And I wanted to hear his comments about Bitwings. But not about me  ;D ;D ;D

Really, it is tokens  ;)
I know. You are a really good bounty manager. It is not sarcasm)

Scams... spreadshit happens...

Yep. If there is one thing that they dont lack of, it's the excuses. They are doing this for over a year now, and always find some reason. Now its cocid-19, next time it will be something else. Business as usual in Bitwings.

I don't know if anyone noticed this, but they changed total amount of Minephones available from 40,000 to only 2,000. I guess people are not really interested in their phone and sale is not going as they expected so they are trying to make it even more exclusive.

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Regarding this bounty mess, I don't know why anyone is surprised that they  heavily reduced  bounty pool. They keep lying and  giving false promises to their investors for more than a year now so of course they will  cheat bounty hunters as well. Bounty hunters should be more careful  before joining bounty campaigns, so they don't end up working for nothing.

I wish I would be this "careful bounty hunter". But I've joined it in 2019. Not only because of huge bounty pull, but because they promised fixed emission. Also their project looked promising. I understood that their "up to 2 ETH" was just a slogan or a nice picture to attract investors, but hoped that at least any amount their smartphone could produce.

Sad that they were flagged and tagged only this summer, and on they day they created bounty and ann topics, no one put under question their product and "mining" contracts.

Out of pure curiosity, since the mentioned thread was archived already and the OP is not updated from June 2019, what was normal at that time?
I'm asking this just to clarify what some people think it's a legit project because the 2ETH/month and the phone specs (worth 200$) promises were the same back in 2019.

So, what was "normal" one year ago, what was looking legit in their promises and what is not normal anymore, as I am a bit amazed seeing this coming from you, especially since I remember quite clearly a few topics of yours where you called out ponzi schemes...


This is because less and less active high ranking members are looking into the altcoin sections, and the few that do are not that interested in creating scam accusation or reputation topics or have the time for it. Reading the old topic I see people calling out their project as a blatant lie from the start but...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.msg50982633#msg50982633

Admitedly at that time, my method of checking projects was a lot different than now.
Back then, if i remember correctly, i saw they were doing public tours, they attened the mobile world congress, so it looked kind of ok. My reasoning was, well if they're funding so much marketing and promotion (and their marketing was pretty intense) there had to be something planned and legit.

Especially after onecoin and bitconnect, didn't think anyone would try that again.
As i already admitted, i was wrong.

I was going to say that all's well that ends well, but I don't know what I was thinking, as nothing here is going to end well.  ;D

Well,that aside, it's good that you've changed your way of analyzing stuff, that puzzled me as I never thought you could fall for their tricks in the first place, but anyhow it's ancient history at this point, as long as nobody was part of the shill/bumper group throwing accuses at each other is quite counterproductive.

As for their "project", since they are not delivering their magic phones, anyone got their smartwatch?  ;D ;D

https://i.imgur.com/tpKz2sN.png

I wonder if it mines monero or ripple  ;)

For me, Bitwings is a fabulous project. They are creating a way to support humanity financially by presenting a mobile phone that can mine up to 2 ETH using Proof of Data((POD). They have a real product to justify their existence. As for the Hunters that are calling the team a scam, they team carried out a second audit and found out that most accounts were inactive or bots so they took stringent measures. They however gave room for many hunters to provide proof of their work and then included them in the spreadsheet afterwards. Bitwings is an amazing project and has an amazing team.

 smartphones play an important role in our lives. These days pass when people use smart phones to communicate with each other, BitWings provides a platform to allow crypto currency users to make payments and buy goods and services without difficulty, and for some people who say bitwings are a scam, that's not true, Bitwings  is the official Cryptocurrency from Wings Mobile.  Wings Mobile is a Spanish Telecommunications Brand that they have presented projects at many major conferences, we can all see it on all social media bitwings, all of that is clear and fact, everyone who follows the bitwings project from the beginning until now will know that bitwings are real,  let's think smarter and unwise

Behind the Bitwings project is the official company Wings Mobile, which has already proven the effectiveness of its development with its phones and is ready to be one of the first to help many users start mining one of the popular and top cryptocurrencies, which can solve the issue of trust between the participants thanks to smart contracts and get rid of centralized intermediaries. In my experience, I want to say and note that digital currencies can become useful for everyone, and Bitwings will only increase their number thanks to smartphones with the ability to use them daily.

the program offered by bitwings is very good. ponzi or not we have to try and follow the mining contract program. By buying a MinephoneWX we will know and feel the results of the mining contract.
let's just look at the development of this bitwings project

minephone price 6000 bwn or between 900-1200 USD. the price is still normal for a smartphone classmate. especially with the added bonus eth every month I think the customer will be happy. buying a smartphone with an eth gift can be for investment.
all we return to the customer whether to buy or not.

Bitwings is a mobile network design operator, software developer, and electronic product manufacturer that has been building trust and gaining integrity for several years now. Bitwings was founded in 2007 and competes successfully in the wholesale business-to-business (B2B) market, offering services to large telecommunications operators, bitwings can mine 2 Eth per month clearly with data evidence, the PoD validation protocol consists of Doppler Data Rate (DDR)  algorithm) and Smart Contract.  Through DDR and active contracts, MinePhone WX receives Ethereum from Wings Mine Pool every day, depending on the connection time and the amount of data exchanged with it. Through Smart Contract, he can capture the computing power of the rented pool.  This is the main secret of our Data Evidence.  Think of Data Evidence as a "sub-protocol" that allows Wings WX to connect to the pool, which then generates Ethereum using the Proof of Work protocol.  Bitwings have become extraordinary projects and also real work

Oh, an avalanche of shills suddenly in the topic in less than 24h, probably bitwings promised a few gullible idiots some useless tokens for this

Oh yeah, my dear classmate, paying 1200$ for a 200$ phone with junk specification is totally legit,  classmate!!
It's also pretty normal not to get your phone in June 2019, August 2019, march 2020, and so on.


Well, this is a new one, probably this guy didn't get the text he was supposed to post here in the mail and he tried to come up with an idea on his own, didn't go too well, you won't get paid for this crap you've posted but for admitting you will promote Ponzi schemes for a bounty you'll most likely get tagged.

But overall disappointed by this shilling, I thought they could afford something better, @bitwings, did you pay more than 10 cents for this? You got scammed if so!

Great project, with a great and promising future! The team is really working on the development of the project, and I am sure they will be able to implement all their plans! Everyone who thinks that this is a fraudulent project is very much mistaken

Don't joke, bro, the bounty ended a year ago, and then they hurt us by saying we were not active, even now I still run some bounties, especially after the bitwings are finished, I have completed many bounties.  Previously I did not say scam, but they banned me and kicked me from all groups.  It doesn't make sense for a clean project to do that.

Even though the bounty has ended for a year but they will judge when the social media used in the bounty is suspended, it's really ironic. For more than 2 years I have been on bounty programs, the weirdest bitwings.  It looks meaner than a scam.  But I have given up, I believe in God, when I work on the bounty and they don't pay, I'm sure I can collect it on the Day of Judgment. Because services must be paid and they are obliged to pay.

Based on their post history, looks like they are all bounty hunters, so you are probably right, they promised them tokens in exchange for these comments. They somehow think that that this support will not look legit and nothing like paid shills, and on top of that, very bad ones.

It also shows once again that a lot of bounty hunters doesn't care whether something is legit or not, as long as they get paid its all good.

I think that's a nasty requirement to get a bounty payment, not an additional reward

They ordered bounty hunter to write praises about them. and if they don't write they won't give them a reward. Fraudulent project! They run bounty hunters. I think that even after this action no one will get a reward! I advise everyone not to support this project, they behave like scammers

I love the fact that Bitwings has secured a cloud mining service contract between each mining subscriber, its company (Bitwings Ltd 981 Great West Road, Brentford, United Kingdom, TW8 9DN Company Number 12593357 (the “Payment blockchain app & platform provider”) and  Ether Capital Holding Ltd The Penthouse, 20, Lyons Range Court, Bisazza Street, SLM1640, Sliema, Malta Reg. Number: C95543 (the “Cloud Mining Service Provider”

The shows the genuity of the project and dedication from the core team members. Investors will gain in a short term and long term basis. Bitwings is a phenomenal project!

What most of these morons don't realize is that they're bumping the wrong topic! Anyone in their right mind will figure out that this is a ponzi scam just by reading the title.

Keep up the good work, guys! Your masters will be very pleased to see you keep this topic at the top. ;D

That was my first thought when I saw it this morning, but now I I'm not quite sure that it's a mistake. If this was limited to to 2-3 posts then yeah, might have been a mistake, but we see them constantly coming here and posting that generic nonsense.

@Jimfrod confirmed that as well, that they require from bounty hunters to post in exactly this thread in order to get their bounty tokens. Incredibly stupid move by Bitwings, they just keep digging their hole deeper.

Edit: and here is the confirmation from their special bounty group. Forum is backfiring, change of plans.

https://i.postimg.cc/pr44s3Jw/IMG-20200804-180944.jpg

Since there is an army of paid shills and spamming idiots bumping the ANN thread of Bitwings 24/7, I think it is only fair to bump this topic as well.  ;)

By the way, has anyone already had that pleasure of seeing their magic phone in action - mining 2 ETH a month?  ;D

I see its the same group of tagged accounts that is still shilling their announcement thread and asking those stupid questions.
There is one change I have noticed - seems like their English Telegram group dissappeared (at least I can't find it anymore). Maybe they got bored of people asking about minephone so they simply shut that group.


I have guess this is a rhetorical question :D

Their army seems to have quite a low turnout..3 guys ignoring the bumping rule, probably that's why there are 4 posts deleted in the modlog, guess it's time to report what is left also.
Anyhow, some of that stuff made me curious


They haven't been able to launch a phone but they are promoting more things than Xiaomi is building?  ;D
Are all those gadgets also going to mine ETH?
I wonder why are they even trying, at this point, they've fleeced all the suckers they could get, they are beyond the point when anyone would still fall for it.

I think they will keep trying squeeze some money from Latin America market as they still have Spanish Telegram group going on, and they had strong marketing campaign in that region and they still mention that on their social media channels.

Who knows, maybe some suckers are still ordering  magic smartphone so they are milking that as much as possible. You know the saying, here's a sucker born every minute, and they count on it.

This Bitwings Project ( Bitwings Mobile ) is powered by neural technology, with a safe Core OS based on it. The mining process uses the proof-of Data algorithm,which can generate up to 2 ETH per month and also comes with additional security features such as Face ID , Fingerprint and PIN

I dug this project up only a few hours ago, only to discover that my gut feeling back then was sadly true.

I participated for about 7 posts in their campaign last year. It looked quite genuine at that time, and was quite popular, if I remember well. But the signature was ridiculously ugly, the avatar was of very low quality, and the campaign spreadsheet was packed with spammers (some of which are still there, I see :) ).

So I got suspicious after only 2-3 days already. I sent the bounty manager (the "official" dude) a PM warning him about the spammers and the low quality of his sig and avatar, and let him know that I wasn't gonna play along any longer.

By the way, they haven't changed in all that time and are still there. I mean, seriously, just look at this monstrosity at their Bounty page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5163998.0) - and the sigs are just as horrible:

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGMjozVy.jpg

If you look at it long enough, it starts to move around on your screen. Makes me think of the Shadows in Babylon 5. Quite creepy.

Anyway, the Bitwings "official dude" replied that I wasn't gonna leave the campaign, no you won't mister, but instead, that he was kicking me out!! Oh and he also told me that I shouldn't point names. :D Probably my shortest participation ever, I didn't even get to finish one round. Come to think of it, it was really hilarious at that time. Still is actually.

That being said, I seriously do hope none of you guys lost any money in this scam. Participating in the wrong bounty is no shame if you don't know better and at least it doesn't cost you any money.

By the way, the guy claims his rubbish is being sold in "parts" of Europe already, but apparently, it's very difficult to describe which "parts" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.msg55202887#msg55202887).

Time for a Bitwings update, a lot of things going on lately at the home of magic smartphone that mines 2 ETH per month.

So, after year long ICO and many extensions, plan was to list BWN on "reputable" exchange such as P2PB2B on October 1st, right after ICO sale that supposed to be over on September 31st. But, since Ethereum blockhain (or any other for that matter) is not approriate for something as advanced as Bitwings ecosystem is, with their smartphones scooters, laptopts, tablets etc they decided to develop their own blockchain, or as they call it "WingsChain". Developing something as advanced as WingsChain takes time, so naturally they decided for one more sale extension until "early 2021" and therefore postponing exchange listing too.

I must admit, the one thing that Bitwings doesn't miss are lame excuses. First it was corona virus, now its the new blockchain. It will be interesting to see what's next. I think their plan is to drag all this as much as possible so old ICO investors simply forget about their money, and those that ordered smartphones.

https://i.postimg.cc/gjWMvMZ8/tele-bit.jpg

Regarding their main product, Magic Smartphone,  it's no surprise that no one reviewed or seen that thing. Well, maybe one of their shillers did, if we are to believe him. But even he reports malfunctioning camera :D

https://i.imgur.com/bxrQLnH.jpg

This must be the next big thing in crypto... all hurry to buy WingsChain super-duper coins and buy more phones to be ready for 2021, because they say WingsChain is in 0.1% of best crypto projects ....  ::)  ;D
One thing I notice is that they deleted official telegram channel @bitwings_eng

But, they have a new product, a bitwings laptop...the x book!
Equipped with a processor launched in 2017, with as they say high-level specifications like 8gb ram and 256 ssd, top of the line, and you can get this amazing thing for just 999$, unlike buying it from newegg at 700$

We're already in Q3 and the roadmap is full of potholes:
https://i.imgur.com/F38VFJ2.png


And now the second wave of corona will be blamed, I can feel it, they have nothing, they thought its simple to launch a token and a phone that is manufactured under their brand by a noname company in China but they didn't manage to set up even the management and logistic chain a dropshipping business would be able to. As far as I understood reading though this scam in the last months they do have a legit business behind it, why create all this crap and most likely end up losing even the original business over what will happen if some of the investors will start filling complains both with the police or the financial authorities in their country? They are based in Spain for god's sake not in some forgotten country!

This is a project by a real-life existing phone company, if I understand well. I don't see any reason why people who own a bounty or who have invested in this project, wouldn't send a notice of default to this company and consider legal action. The case is so easy that you probably wouldn't need a lawyer, and it might be possible that you can send your notice of default simply by e-mail, especially if your home country has a minimal existing concept of consumer laws.

I thought so too, but group is still there, they just made it private and deleted invite link so no new members can enter. I guess they got bored of new accounts coming to group and complaining about delays and other failed promises, and there are are of those lately in their group. I am still in that group, staying low not to get kicked out.


Yep, their graphics designers are working hard on all those new "products".


That's the main reason they managed to fool so many people for so long, the fact that real company is backing Bitwings, not just made up fake company like in 99% of the ICOs. BUt as man others, they overestimated themselves, promised stuff they can;t deliver and now we see the results. For some reason they still have marketing campaign focused at Latin America.


Doesn't make much sense for bounty hunters to start the lawsuit (as far as I know they got their tokens but they are on Bitwings dashboard, you can't move them anywhere) but I wouldn't be surprised if some bigger ICO investor goes that way, or maybe people that paid for their magic smartphone/

So aiming for IEO bitwings on p2pb2b is it just to attract investors?  in the end it failed nor was there success while the hunters were waiting for the tokens generated from their campaign, this was really disappointed.

 In the beginning, I was sure about the Bitwings project because with a meeting that could be said to be promising in the end I already knew that they were behind them.

It's ALIVE ladies and gentlemen. A new announcement!

Only this time, the thread sadly has been abandoned even by the bumpers...


A failed campaign manager talking to walls...

It is ALIVE only on Bitcointalk. Their social media accounts are silent about this announcement. There is nothing about it on their webpage, which used to be on English language, but now is partly on Spanish.

"Most awaited minephone" with "high-performance MediaTek Helio P60, Octa-Core is used both to power the Android OS and its mining operations. It’s paired to a large 8GB of memory, 128GB of storage and comes with two high-resolution , 8+16MP rear cameras for exceptional photography. (https://bitwings.medium.com/bounce-back-to-minephone-wx-the-mining-smartphone-482fa23d12b)". Who needs that in late 2020 ? How much they charge for this mobile ? "not mining" mobile with same specs can be bought for 250 Euro today.

So he lied in public when he said unpacking videos will be released 'today' because that was 4 days ago and still nothing.
I didn't find any unpacking on twitter or facebook, but only this video in spanish on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IO8DmKbWEE
Better grab your popcorns and enjoy the free bitwings show  :)

The magic phone just got an upgrade it seems, but on the webpage is still shows:

And for 250$ you could have got that deal a year ago, already bought and used the phone, and the rest of the money you could have invested directly in ETH and made 3x time the profit, which brings us to another problem in the unicorn fairy tale of bitwings.

They claimed that the phone was paired with a 2ETH/month package, now that sounds almost impossible since at the time of the release ETh was at per their calculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.0) at 215$ and now it stands at 450$ and it likely will keep up with bitcoin and maybe reach quite soon 500$. At which point they will have no more room to maneuver than admit they are not really having a mining business backing their business model but this is a magic phone that does this and that and somehow prints money.

But even more annoying that this whole crapload of lies they keep on posting about their magic business is that somehow Icobench still ranks (https://icobench.com/ico/bitwings) their shitty ICO with 4.3 and 4.8 out of 5 stars.

Isn't icobench one of those scammy review sites that rate any ICO/IEO/I-something-O/DE-something-FI for a price?

I thought those sites died off with the 2017 wave of scams but apparently not.

Name one that isn't...
Seriously, tell me one that is not doing this, I would love to have it bookmarked.


As always, the only ones that went offline were the ones that were not getting paid to do so, the only on my list of ico reviews was icoethics, the user went offline and hasn't logged for more than a year, the domain has expired, the crap has survived mainly thanks to the new defi madness.

I found one, but you can hardly call it proper unpacking video, and on top of that its published on their YouTube channel. You do see this infamous Minephone though and hear some annoying electronic music, no voice or any kind of explanation. Naturally, under the video there are few shills accounts telling how great that phone is. They simply can't resist doing that kind of things.
¡Ya llegó! Unboxing del Minephone WX - 2020 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Zj8UlGhLs)


Yep, even with ETH at 200 USD they would operate at loss (if we assume that they would have to get that ETH from somewhere in order to keep this ponzi running for some time) and now with this prices scheme would crumble much faster. If you confront them with that question, I'm sure they would twist it around and say that's even  more reason to buy Minephone now, as ETH price is going up.



Everything is on sale there, including ratings from those "experts". Check any shitty ICO and chances are you will see the names like Ian Scarffe, Sean Brizendine and Hamza Khan. Among other things, ICObench also tracks bitcointalk activity and gives rating based on that so I think that's one of the reasons why we still see shill accounts despite bumping changes in altcoin board.


Unfortunately still alive and kicking, with few others as well. They were offline for a couple of days few months ago and I hoped that someone managed to shut them down for good but they came back.



This whole Bitwings mess doesn't make any sense.They have real mobile provider company behind them so it's not like same fake team decided to make a quick money grab scheme, that  we usually see. These are real people, they have some kind of conventions in South America, paying influencers to advertise this, going to that mobile phone congress in Barcelona etc. I guess they live in la-la land...

Oh, my God, that's one hairy dude. If you are going to watch the video be careful not to get too close, or you'll get poked in the eye! ;D

the bitwings project is indeed a very long and long project. regardless of whether the result is achieved or not ieo. bitwings still has the minephone wx product which I think is good enough to buy. especially plus a bonus.
whether it can be sent to another country or not, we are waiting for the pre-order for the wx minephone.

"good enough to buy"? Ok, I don't think so. In terms of features and functionality, there are far better phones at far cheaper prices from well-known and recognized manufacturers and not some 'nameless' garbage we have here. And what do you mean by "especially plus a bonus"? A cloud mining contract? Trust me, you better take that money and invest directly in ETH.

Don't waste your time to reply, Stalker 22, this is the guy who said:


Don't you agree with him? 8)

Waiting for someone to actually buy this phone and hear the feedback. I don't think many people can afford this phone. In my opinion, it is better to invest directly in eth as we know the chance of increasing its value is high, once eth 2.0 is launched. But investing in expensive smartphone with no guarantee to earn? That's a gamble. Mining 2 eth/month, let's see if they can truly realized this amount of earnings.

Kinda hard to buy something that doesn't really exist.
I'm sure many people would buy it if possible, scam or not, but you just can't.
And the things they show on the video, it's an ordinary chineese phone with a custom sticker on it

I thought I had made the comparison before, but it seems I forgot to add a picture.

Bitwings Logo:
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGMjozVy.jpg

Babylon 5 Shadow:
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/babylon5/images/4/4c/Shadow-battlecrab.jpg

(yes yes I'll keep my posts in the thread serious from now on, promise)

The paid thread bumpers were back for a few days, but it seems they, too, have given up already...

Bitwings ANN thread = officially dead.

Good. It's about time for them to realize that it was in vain.

I wouldn't celebrate just yet as I don't think this is the last we hear about Bitwings, magic smartphone and all the other products like laptops and tablets that they are developing  They are still pushing that idea in South America, making YouTube videos etc so I think that they will occasionally hire those bumpers too. But even those bumpers were laughable, same as their 2 ETH /month smartphone idea.

It makes zero sense what they are doing, yet they keep going on. It's truly baffling.

Long time not checking the bounty group of bitwings, they tried to change the rules for token distribution, and made re-verification by making a rule to register on their website. They promised to provide bitwings tokens for those who signed up and followed the directions. Hopelessly, I tried to register and follow the instructions. And what surprising me is, they are asked user to make a positive review, and promised an additional 100 BWN, and for member who not make a review, i checked my account still zero BWN, this case also happens to several members that not getting their BWN  ;D

https://imgbb.online/images/2020/12/01/c0b38d8650a4.png (https://imgbb.online/images/2020/12/01/c0b38d8650a4.png)

Well there's the campaign manager talking to his bumping ghosts again.

I've stopped replying and reporting, am thinking it will be actually better if they would just continue like this. The whole thread will serve as interesting proof, if any of the scammed victims will want to continue the discussion before a judge later. :)

So after posting this ^ I decided to contact Bitwings and ask them if the trolling and bumping in the ANN thread on this forum was part of their marketing strategy.

I have not received any reply as of today, but their campaign manager was last seen online the day after I sent my e-mail, and the thread seems dead (for now).

Now I wonder if there's any link between that and my e-mail. 8)

I did the same thing in the past, when I was checking Bitwings for the first time, and back then they pretended that they don't know what i am talking about. They may have stopped for now but I am pretty sure that sooner or later they will continue with the same practice as they had several breaks like that and always came back.

This has to be probably the weirdest scam I encountered this year, it really doesn't make sense that seemingly legit company is still trying to pull something like this. This is not some scam where team is anon. here everything is known, they still have conferences in South America etc. Then again, Bitconnect was the same and we all know how that ended. Some people just don't care.

This Mine phone was released. And they delivered it to a lot of users. I got this info from their official announcement channel on Telegram.

I don't know what is going to happen. But they cut bounty rewards to many hunters by introducing a new rule year after end of the bounty. Their bounty program was over 2019 September or October month. Then Bitwings Team comes up with a new rule in may month(2020). There rule is If any of the participants inactive in the last three months in the bitcointalk forum(The day from their new rule announcement) They wouldn't qualify to receive their reward. So the Bounty manager's final spreadsheet is completely changed and more people were not rewarded.

This bold part is the key. Just because Bitwings announced something on their telegram channel it doesn't mean that it is true. They have a long history of giving false promises and this is no different. If so many people got their Minephone where are YouTube videos of people using them? I am sure that such a revolutionary smartphone that can mine you 2 ETH per month ( at the moment worth approximately 1300 USD) would create huge hype and everyone would want it. But all I see on YouTube are videos from their  own channel, advertising Minephone.

Basic napkin math tells you that what Bitwings promises is simply not sustainable as they operate as cloud mining. Price  of the smartphone and 1000 MH/s contract for 3 years is 19 ETH (1200 USD for 17 ETH). So, in 6 months you would get your investment back and in the next 30 months you would get 60 ETH extra. You don't have to be a genius to see that this is a ponzi scheme, as only they offer you such profit.

This is one of the problems with this garbage phone.
The fact that there is absolutely nothing stopping them to do some videos like that, they can even ship some 200$ phones with their own logo and an app to some YouTubers to make a demo in exchange for some $ and there you have it, proof they have a phone! And this will be nothing special, there are hundreds of companies that come up with a prototype, show it to the world, and then eat through billions in funding without delivering anything Faraday Future is one example.

So even if youtube comes and shows a phone with their logo, it means almost nothing compared to their history of deceiving, lying, and hiding facts, besides, they even have some phones one year ago, the ones in their presentation videos, they could easily use those.


Hmmm
https://i.imgur.com/hwqihF7.png
The shit on their page makes no sense.

Yeah, 1000MH/s would earn you about 72 ETH in 36 months right now, but not for that price, adding that their computations were made when ETH was at ~150 and Inno will be sending a new batch of miners on the market next month, everything is just a fairy tale gone terrible wrong.

As the details, they are on developing their kind of a blockchain named wingschain.It is a complete and innovative validation protocol. I don't know how it's going to be. But I m in touch with their announcement channel.

Hi!. Have you checked the latest news about this project? No official exchange release date yet... Do you know a youtube channel that can analyze this project and finally expose this scam to Latin America?

Any news about this scam?

What news are you expecting to receive? They have raise funds for development and production, and got away with, scammed investors. They ran a bounty campaign and did not distribute rewards, scammed bounty hunters. Their webpage is down long time ago, part of social media accounts are dead. Their twitter was active year ago and they were promoting their p2e game. Funny how they jumped from a mobile to gaming.

No one is going to expose them. Want to know why? Because their investors are regular people who made small investment. They let this situation go and forget about their $1-1000 invested. People choose to forget that, instead of wasting time find who stole their thousand. Instead, they would rather spend that time earning more. On the hand, cases were scam project owners were caught are so low, that people dont bother about that much.

Is there still hope from Bitwings? If I'm not mistaken, there are hunters who get rewards from bounties through several conditions, I used to try to get my rewards from bitwings, but after I think about it, this will only be a waste of time, so I can forget and don't care about rewards which i should get. After all, it's been several years since this project first appeared and there is no clarity on the project, never mind, nothing to hope for.

Wait a minute, I don't think you're a bounty participant either, or you have an old account that joined this campaign?

The webpage is not down, it's just that their certificate expired yesterday, the site is still up.
Same for their social media, Twitter was active in February this year, even promoting something big coming back in November (https://twitter.com/bitwingsteam/status/1464041905885380608) and as I check everything from FB, TW, Instagram, YT, all of them are still active, nothing was erased.

And they have a lot of new scams ready, the gaming token, their own smartchain, and some NFT ready to be dropped, so it's not over by a mile.


He doesn't have to be one to call it a scam, maybe he bought the smartphone, or has been tricked into investing some other way, or he just saw it a year ago as per his previous message and asked for more info on it.

I still save the BWN Token on their website and until now there is no latest update, the last update is 2021, the Telegram group has not had any discussion for years, it's very suspicious, even when I questioned my rights they immediately issued me to the Telegram group.

At least their ANN thread is locked and, since Bitwings_official left the forum, there are no more paid shills spamming and bumping the Bitwings thread 24/7.
Of course, until they start with a new scam...

Buddy, Bitwings was suspicious three years ago when they started bounty campaign (it really surprised me how no one bothered to ask them about mobile phone that can mine 2 ETH per month) and its been obvious for almost two years now (since I created this thread) that Bitwings is nothing but a scam.

Regarding your BWN tokens, you might as well forget about them and all those promises about having stabile price and being able to buy smartphones and laptops with them.