Bitwings promises smartphone that can mine 2 ETH/month. Ponzi scheme?

[TheBeardedBaby]

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Haha, I love the way those guys are trying to promote their scam in their scam accusation thread! Defending their position with the "just wait and you'll see" typical scamming scheme. So pathetic.

We are not here to fake and cheat our customers. Customer value is our priority.

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[masulum]

You should not even expect phones mining 2 ETH/month in any sense. What even dragged you to initally supporting this project is unimaginable.

It's happens when i was join their bounty, after i didn't get the payment and extended sales, i lost my faith for this tokens on may since they are still doesn't get investors. Their presentation is good in beginning so i try to join their campaign 😬

[Rikafip]

Tomorrow we are launching the Minephone WX, that mines up to 2 Eth/month with the aid of Cloud Mining and 3 exclusive features. You will get all your answers from tomorrow. We are not here to fake and cheat our customers. Customer value is our priority.

Care to address the issues mentioned in this thread, like 300 % ROI, or how you plan to keep value of the tokens at 0.2 USD when buying your merchandise and not going bankrupt, in case of price dump, shilling your YouTube videos and ANN thread?

You should not even expect phones mining 2 ETH/month in any sense. What even dragged you to initally supporting this project is unimaginable.

I think many fell for this because an actual mobile provider is behind this, and there were  videos showing that phone at some mobile show in Barcelona. And that was enough, people simply switched off their brain and order that phone, without thinking whether something like that is possible.

It's happens when i was join their bounty, after i didn't get the payment and extended sales, i lost my faith for this tokens on may since they are still doesn't get investors. Their presentation is good in beginning so i try to join their campaign 😬

When I was checking Bitwings i came across their bounty thread, and  I was surprised to see how popular it was, thousands of bounty hunters joined. It will be interesting to see what happens to BWN price once they  list on an exchange and start distributing 4,000,000 BWN  bounty tokens worth 800,000 USD (based on ICO price).

[hacker1001101001]

It's happens when i was join their bounty, after i didn't get the payment and extended sales, i lost my faith for this tokens on may since they are still doesn't get investors. Their presentation is good in beginning so i try to join their campaign 😬

I see and understand.

You should not even expect phones mining 2 ETH/month in any sense. What even dragged you to initally supporting this project is unimaginable.

I think many fell for this because an actual mobile provider is behind this, and there were  videos showing that phone at some mobile show in Barcelona. And that was enough, people simply switched off their brain and order that phone, without thinking whether something like that is possible.

Show in Barcelona is something interesting, yet I don't know from when people got back their faith in Mobile mining, as mostly crypto users know it's not technically possible to profit out of it.

[stompix]

Customer value is our priority.

You mean the value of their pocket is your first and only priority.

I think many fell for this because an actual mobile provider is behind this, and there were  videos showing that phone at some mobile show in Barcelona. And that was enough, people simply switched off their brain and order that phone, without thinking whether something like that is possible.

Do you mean a phone manufacturer?
Having a stand at the MWC is nothing, everyone can get one if they pay a price and show minimum requirements like a registered company and a product, you can get there even as a start-up with just a project with no actual assembly line or final product just a  concept. And, unlike what most might think, it comes cheaper than listing a bitcoin on some exchanges, with 10-20k you get that 4 by 4 stand they showed in video with all the personnel expenses.

It will be interesting to see what happens to BWN price once they  list on an exchange and start distributing 4,000,000 BWN  bounty tokens worth 800,000 USD (based on ICO price).

Interesting? Nope, we all know what's going to happen, they will keep it alive for a few months to dump more tokens, throw a few hundred $ on some ann bumping, Reddit posts, youtube videos, and then ...to the garbage bin like all the rest.

[Rikafip]

Do you mean a phone manufacturer?

Nah, more like mobile carrier. From what i saw, they are mostly active in South America, that's their target market.
https://wingsmobile.com/

Having a stand at the MWC is nothing, everyone can get one if they pay a price and show minimum requirements like a registered company and a product, you can get there even as a start-up with just a project with no actual assembly line or final product just a  concept. And, unlike what most might think, it comes cheaper than listing a bitcoin on some exchanges, with 10-20k you get that 4 by 4 stand they showed in video with all the personnel expenses.

Yeah I understand all that, but as we can see, people fell for that. Same goes for having your own mobile phone/laptop/whatever. You go to China and buy bunch of generic devices and then they just put your brand on it. Voila, you now have your own mobile phone.

Interesting? Nope, we all know what's going to happen, they will keep it alive for a few months to dump more tokens, throw a few hundred $ on some ann bumping, Reddit posts, youtube videos, and then ...to the garbage bin like all the rest.

Yep, that's why all those bounty campaigns offer huge amount of tokens, "worth" hundreds of thousands, and sometimes even millions, as they know that they can promise anything, bounty hunters will buy it. That brings us to one of their promises: guaranteed minimum value of BWN when buying from their stores. I can already see how they gonna tackle that after tokens gets dumped: they will simply say that their merch is out of stock. As simple as that

[Bitwings_official]

Since the beginning of the sale, they have no consistency. Several times they extended the sale even though when they said they would not extend the sale again, the reality was still doing an extension. I, who initially supported this project, began to get suspicious when I saw inconsistencies from the team. Last month I asked about the process of bitwings phone, because at that time I felt it was normal with the pandemic conditions, but with this thread it convinced me that this project was not entirely reliable.

We are not here to fake and cheat our customers. Customer value is our priority.

If your customer is your priority, your project should have been running better, until now we don't know when your tokens can be sold, from the token sale has been extended repeatedly? With the increasing difficulty of mining, how do you deal with problems on your mobile for ETH mining and are you still sure you can produce 2 ETHs with your phone? You really say "up to 2 ETH", the word "up to" often traps customers in promotions/campaign. Like what happens in e-commerce sales, they say discounts up to 90%, in fact, 90% discounts are only for items that have no value. And maybe your "up to" will have same results, the promotions is up to, but in reality 1 year only 0.00xxxETH  can you give an explanation here?

Our tokensale was extended once to meet the demands of our customers and investors, and once due to the pandemic as we were right at the peak. Closing the sale during this time wouldn't be the right decision for anyone in any field. Even you know and understand that. We NEVER hid any evidence or fact from our customers. Ofcourse, not all information is for everyone. We have all our customers in our official Telegram channel where we have repeatedly and DAILY provided updates on what we are doing, how we are doing and when.

About the Minephone, the launch is in 1 hour, maybe you can have a look at the details and here upto doesn't mean what others are doing, when we said 2 eth per month, then IT IS 2 eth per month. We would love to clear all your doubts as we have hidden nothing! We have a separate website and manual dedicated for Minephone, to be promoted from today, that explains what all you need and how the entire process will work.

Ps: NOT Everyone is being fake here. And accusing someone without knowing the entire details is very wrong.

We hope to have you on board as the Minephone WX goes on sale today!

[hacker1001101001]

About the Minephone, the launch is in 1 hour, maybe you can have a look at the details and here upto doesn't mean what others are doing, when we said 2 eth per month, then IT IS 2 eth per month.

Now that's something solid !

I would be waiting for an hour to see a phone mining 2 ETH per month. I would just bang my head on miners at-last if it's true.

[Rikafip]

We hope to have you on board as the Minephone WX goes on sale today!

People started ordering phone back in February/March 2019, and now you said that Minephone just went on sale? So what was before then, when people ordered the phones and you promised to distribute them In July/August 2019. 1 year ago.

But yeah, July 1st came and passed, and nothing changed. You are still promising the phone, kicking from Telegram group anyone that asks you questions about it, and still using shill accounts in ANN thread. Business as usual in Bitwings.

[Bitwings_official]

We hope to have you on board as the Minephone WX goes on sale today!

People started ordering phone back in February/March 2019, and now you said that Minephone just went on sale? So what was before then, when people ordered the phones and you promised to distribute them In July/August 2019. 1 year ago.

But yeah, July 1st came and passed, and nothing changed. You are still promising the phone, kicking from Telegram group anyone that asks you questions about it, and still using shill accounts in ANN thread. Business as usual in Bitwings.

If you have followed Bitwings properly, that was our preorder session. Not an instant-buy session. The customers read and saw everything and AGREED to pre-order. We have delayed the delivery to meet the best interests of our customers and launch the phone at the right time. If we are bringing this amidst a pandemic, it should prove a lot about our authenticity and base. Please keep following us like you do by seeing who we banned from telegram, where we don't have place for fake profiles.

Thank you.

[Rikafip]

If you have followed Bitwings properly, that was our preorder session. Not an instant-buy session. The customers read and saw everything and AGREED to pre-order. We have delayed the delivery to meet the best interests of our customers and launch the phone at the right time. If we are bringing this amidst a pandemic, it should prove a lot about our authenticity and base. Please keep following us like you do by seeing who we banned from telegram, where we don't have place for fake profiles.

Thank you.

Now you say it was just a presale, but in March 2019 you were promising people that Minephone will be distributed in July 2019.
July came and passed, then you promised phone distribution in December 2019. Nothing happened. And now you are using Covid19 situation to further delay distribution.

What do you have to say about those fake conversations with shill accounts in your ANN? Those are genuine people that are showing genuine interest in your project?

[stompix]

If you have followed Bitwings properly, that was our preorder session. Not an instant-buy session. The customers read and saw everything and AGREED to pre-order. We have delayed the delivery to meet the best interests of our customers and launch the phone at the right time. If we are bringing this amidst a pandemic,

How can a pandemic that has appeared in January stop delivery in July the previous year?

If we order next week, when will the Minephone be delivered?

If you order the Minephone next week, you will get it by July.

https://archive.vn/1Ecuv#msg50990155

When will the Minephone be delivered if we order it now?

After Sep 1, we will begin with the deliveries but only if you order before June 30.
It will be on a First Come First Serve basis.

https://archive.vn/OX05s#msg51594003

If I order the Minephone this week, by when it will be delivered to my place? Do you provide a replacement warranty in case the phone gets broken or damaged during the shipping process?

The Minephone will be delivered in December (after the ICO ends).
Yes, we do have a replacement warranty in place if the Minephone gets damaged during shipping.

https://archive.vn/uxZJz#msg52060485

I'm genuinely interested in who are you going to blame for this!
The previous support person that worked and was actually a spy from the CIA and make fake promises to destroy your company on the orders of the NWO?

What do you have to say about those fake conversations with shill accounts in your ANN? Those are genuine people that are showing genuine interest in your project?

Hihi, are there enough messages in that thread made by genuine users for a second page? 
@Bitwings, ask for a refund from the guy that sold you that bumping service, the rules have changed now, and your topic will never make it to the first page with those bots, all you do there is useless, nobody is showing the slightest interest in it, especially with all the red tags your bots have.

[Rikafip]

If we order next week, when will the Minephone be delivered?

If you order the Minephone next week, you will get it by July.

They were giving same ansers on Telegram, and then saying here it was just "pre order". I really wonder how they gonna wiggle out of this. Naturally, one of the shill accounts is asking that, pretending to be interested, and hoping others will jump in when they hear that phones will be delivered shortly.

@Bitwings, ask for a refund from the guy that sold you that bumping service, the rules have changed now, and your topic will never make it to the first page with those bots, all you do there is useless, nobody is showing the slightest interest in it, especially with all the red tags your bots have.

I must say that there is some poetic justice here, don't you agree? Scammers getting scammed by another scammer

So, bumping service told Bitwings that if they hire them, they will get extra attention on bitcointalk forum, and attract potential investors. What they forgot to tell them is that bumping doesn't work anymore, and all they can get is negative attention. Which happened in the end, that's how i stumbled upon Bitwings and their ridiculous claims.

[FatFork]

So, has anyone got their magic phone already? I’m really looking forward to reading some real user reviews. 

[Josefjix]

I actually participated in the bounty of this company hoping to get a phone that would mine me 2ETH. How shallow I was I wouldn't be able to explain, they had good inforgraphics and promised more than they could offer.

[TheBeardedBaby]

You cannot mine with a phone 2ETH per month. I read the whitepaper but it's unclear how a device will be capable to produce more than 1000 MH/s if it's meant to mine.

[MoparMiningLLC]

its simply cloud mining - the phone is not doing the mining, simply the link to the mining? who knows.

[Rikafip]

I actually participated in the bounty of this company hoping to get a phone that would mine me 2ETH. How shallow I was I wouldn't be able to explain, they had good inforgraphics and promised more than they could offer.

You are not the only one. Thousands of bounty hunters unfortunately joined. They indeed had good marketing campaign, they invested some money into it so for many people this company and their phone that can mine 2 ETH per month seemed legit. Especially since they boasted with vides and photos of that phone from mobile show in Barcelona.

its simply cloud mining - the phone is not doing the mining, simply the link to the mining? who knows.

Yep, they will use cloud mining, and phone mining part is just a gimmick here, to attract people to invest as it sounds much better that phone will mine ETH. Otherwise they would be tagged instantly as just another cloud ponzi mining scam, what they actually are, with 300% ROI promise.

[dkbit98]

If you have followed Bitwings properly, that was our preorder session. Not an instant-buy session. The customers read and saw everything and AGREED to pre-order. We have delayed the delivery to meet the best interests of our customers and launch the phone at the right time. If we are bringing this amidst a pandemic, it should prove a lot about our authenticity and base. Please keep following us like you do by seeing who we banned from telegram, where we don't have place for fake profiles.

Thank you.

Don't worry sir.
We are following your activities very much, and we are waiting to see your team end up arrested soon if you don't deliver magical phones.

And what is this shit about pandemic?
You do not deliver phones personally and you don't lick them before sending.... that is if this magical phones even exist.

[wwzsocki]

...About the Minephone, the launch is in 1 hour... when we said 2 eth per month, then IT IS 2 eth per month... We have a separate website and manual... that explains what all you need and how the entire process will work...

It is already 10 days from your first announcement that the launch will be on the 1st of July, then on the 2nd of July was this message quoted above but still, there is nothing until today.

So where are these special websites and where is this launch ongoing? How to find detailed info, where?

PS
There was no significant spike in the hash rate of the ETH network, so I assume clients are still waiting for their magic phones from "preorder session"   .