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We all know that the root of this pandemic are those Chinese people who eats exotic food. The first case of Covid-19 was in Wuhan, China, the markets there are in a lockdown and closed after they try to sell horseshoe bat where the new strand of corona virus came from. We all know that China has a strong and rich economy due to their love for money.

China's approach toward this virus is really precise and effective as they are minimizing the rate of transmission of this Covid-19. They are effectively slowing the number of cases and right now, they have only 415 active cases as of June 28, 2020, based on this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic).

Maybe the factors that help them to have a stable economy are:
1. Chinese people are really disciplined, they are not going outside but still can pay taxes.
2. They strictly following the rules and laws implemented by the government.
3. The government is prioritizing the health sector above all other sectors.
4. Properly allocating the budget for this pandemic.
5. We all know that China is the number 1, manufacturer of face masks, gloves, alcohol, and test kits.

By that factors, these will help them handle this Covid-19 properly and as well as controlling their economy to prevent some downward movement. Being a communist and huge country is really a good advantage as they control how money regulates in their country. Man power toward production of goods are really strong as they have the largest population.

Do you think each and every country can achieve this kind of approach to this pandemic? Can they recover faster from this struggle economically?

Where's the delusion China is communist with everyone?

There affect on other economies and minimising spread to other countries wasn't like this though (effective) and they should've started their lockdown a lot sooner, are they still in lockdown also? Most European countries are transitioning out - maybe people were right about China being worse affected than weve been made to believe (I think 20 million sim contracts went cancelled around the peak afaik)...

I guess there are three main reasons why China is somehow successful in combating the virus.

1. The government is really strong and decisive. All the power resides in the government.
2. The country is rich. They have the means to do things fast.
3. The people are afraid of the government. They, therefore, comply with whatever the government tells them.

No country can perform better than China up to now. What they are doing with this disease is outstanding although they are the ones who started everything. China's people are really disciplined during this pandemic and they do everything which the government said. This success is present to all of the people in this country. Despite the dark face of their government, the people still have fate and believe in what President Xi do to protect their life and their economy

The western, on the other hand, seems can not handle things which are slipping away from their hand. For example, the US is struggling with many protests and shitty stuff which causing more NcoV-19 cases. The people keep making protests over and over again and they are even scared of this disease. They are living in a freedom country and that's why people do whatever they want and they don't care about this Virus. Learning what China has done is really important to them right now but I think its really hard. Therefore, we have to wait for the vaccine in order to stop this pandemic once and for all

China's government is very strong, they can handle their huge population smoothly, just take a look at their cases now, it is relatively low from their past cases on covid which really tells us that they are doing it right. In fact it is the WHO organization that is following the China on covid-19, WHO is giving their full support on China and technical assistance since they saw this chance in China to combat covid.
The country is very rich that even USA has a trillion debt to them, have you heard of a 3-day built hospital in Wuhan?
I really believe the key to this pandemic is cooperation , here in my country it is like a normal day to them going out, letting their kids to play outside, it is like nothings happening around. Then they have the audacity to ask what did the government do to fight the virus like wtf.

They took it seriously and with strict lock down prevented to spread it across their country. 500 cases fro biggest country is little. Most of their economy was never in any danger. Mostly economy in Hubei province suffered, but now is fine fro some time.

They have learned with their experience to face the virus in their country. We know that the government have full power to handle everything in their country and the society obey to every regulations of the government certainly. Because the government and the society stand together, they can handle this virus seriously. We can see the result of their cooperation, their country can face this pandemic better than another countries in the world.

Yeah the security system can protect us from epidemics like Covid-19, but we should not rely only on the government. The government must continue to be vigilant in protecting itself as well. China's economy has improved a lot. They were very aware and were able to resist a lot because of the lockdown. If every country in the world, like China, arranges a strict lockdown so that people from one frontier do not enter another, it can be handled very easily. Because of these measures, China has been able to resist very easily.

I think the main factor in how they were able to handle the situation is because of the strict regulations and how fast they take action towards the problem. Remember when the number of cases in China was increasing rapidly, especially in Wuhan, they immediately implemented a hard lockdown and they were able to build a facility within days for the patients. Cooperation of their people also helped, but I think the government and medical staff really gave their all in fighting the virus.

The money and power also play a role since they are a rich country, they can easily build a big facility for COVID patients and can manufacture equipment they will need. Unfortunately, not all country has that kind of power to do what China did. In my country, the fund is not enough to help everyone affected by the virus, what more in building facilities and providing tools and equipment. Also, my country is increasing its debt just to the so-called "fighting against the virus" yet nothing is going well, daily cases are still increasing. Aside from the financial capability of a country to fight this pandemic, not all government is as competent like in China.

I first off am not 100% sold on this virus being due to someone eating a bat.  I think it leaking from a lab is a lot more plausible.  That said the Chinese are very regimented and disciplined people and wear masks all the time when they are just sick with the cold anyhow.  However I also believe the Chinese government is full of shit and likely lying out their ass about the true amount of cases they've had.  Their news is 100% government controlled so who really knows.

I'd double check that "chinese people are really disciplined", there's a trend of mainland chinese who usually don't like going by the book and instead look for ways of cheating, this opinion obviously has a bit of bias as I've had a few bad experiences with mainland contractors, but that's a story for another time. The other points I agree though, the government took a while to take a stance on covid, but when they finally did they were, as you say, decisive about the matter so that definitely helped.

First question. Did it really came from the bat?
Wasn't it cooked first? So that means taking away the virus if put into a boiling point.
We don't really know. There is so many theories lurking around.

They handed it quicker since it came from them. It's a must.
One reason is that it will not spread in other countries or in their case in their cities.
I think this will also depend on the people. Discipline will be so much appreciated.

that makes sense with the efforts made by the Chinese government, they really did it to protect their citizens from the COVID-19 outbreak and also their economy, the principle that they do is right to make the Chinese economy stable at the moment, a positive thing that deserves to be taken as an example by other countrie.

There are even more interesting things done by the Chinese government in creating a stable Chinese economy and for the welfare of the Chinese people.
Obviously, they do also extraordinary things like: guarantee of market / mall activity stability, basic needs, energy, job security, this continues to operate during a pandemic at the local government level, this is also a good step for them to do to keep the economy stable in China.

Though it looks like that in the surface, the reason that most people looked like discipline is that they are under the government's program of mass surveilance, they have the biggest number of close circuit cameras per square mile, and they are also indoctrinated with the propaganda in the state owned TV station, the problem with these is the fact that the government are doing cover ups, remember the time when they reported falsified numbers of the true cases that they have, remember Tianamen Square Massacre where they suppressed foreign media and protesters through violent force, they have a history of suppression of information and that is my reason for being skeptical about their current status because they are a repeat offender lof information suppression.

China always has its own principles by dealing with its citizens due to Covid-19 although many who insistently attack China because these are all from China but they are able to rise up in a short time can be said like that because basically they always live by the very rules strict as well as cleanliness and good discipline applied in its citizens now I do not hear anymore China is experiencing an outbreak in its citizens because they are able to reduce mortality and remove the virus from his own country.

I know that China is more concerned with the economy and is now becoming more stable.

Chinese people are really strict when it comes to its rules and laws that's why they obey the government without any hesitation. They have unity and the government is responsible and accountable enough to handle this Covid-19 pandemic. They are helping each other and participating in minimizing the risk of spreading this virus. When the government immediately implement a lockdown, the citizens obey and respect and they are just staying inside their house and they trust their government on how they will handle this virus. That's the reason why the economy is not that affected, they only focus and prioritize the economy and the budget for this pandemic. Maybe the government officials are honest and rich enough so they don't corrupt the money of their country.

I think the most successful way to stem COVID-19, is Vietnam and Taiwan with the consideration that these two countries are geographically very dean with China and with small positive corona patients and very small mortality rates even in Vietnam with zero fatalities.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-road-to-recovery-which-economies-are-reopening-covid-19/

In COVID-19 handlers, China combines recipes: leadership + management + technology + printing money

Since the end of February Chinese citizens have to download applications that are connected to national health data centers, and these applications are formal and have legal consequences because they relate to the validity and correctness of information provided by citizens. And there are daily updates that must be done by citizens through the application. This application is a Chinese citizen health card that shows the status of citizens, green, yellow, or red.

Lockdown in Wuhan is very different from lockdown in other countries. In Wuhan, no one can leave the house unless they have permission from the officers. The military was deployed to guard the streets to a small road. Only supermarket or drugstore destinations are permitted with the status requirement in the application must be green. If yellow or red have to stay at home. With this application, an effective and controlled lockdown and lockdown in China has become very modern.

The habit of printing money based on multi-layered and independent projects is effective ammunition but is considered taboo by many other countries to emulate. China is a successful country as a copycat to be an innovative country now. In addition, one of the strategies emphasized by China is to focus on GNP rather than GDP. The OBOR system created by China aims to create a labor market and a market for Chinese manufactured products. Chinese money printing will not be overvalued because it is based on a layered project.

The news can be turned over to be fake while we don't know the truth. I think there is a secret conspiracy among the government which wants to test the biological weapon, and they don't think that the effect will be like this. If this pandemic is really from Wuhan, and it is happening because of intentional factors, then they need to respond to what happened to many countries, which got the impact of Covid-19. We don't want to see this is happening again in the future, and we need to remind them that it is enough to see how people died in the hospital.

I can see that the idea that the origin of the virus is in Wuhan market is still circulating, but there is strong evidence that the virus appeared much earlier and that the Chinese kept silent about it and knew very well that something serious was happening. The fact is that the Military World Games took place in Wuhan 2019 (October) and that many athletes reported symptoms of a disease exactly identical to COVID-19.

It is not possible that the Chinese did not know that something was happening two months before the official announcement if you read something like this


Subsequent research has also shown that the first cases of COVID-19 appeared in Europe long before anyone knew the virus even existed - so there is certainly another side to the coin that could tell a very different story.

It is completely pointless to compare China with another country when it comes to relations and dealing with crisis situations. Communism does not ask for opinions, it issues orders, and those who do not obey them usually end up in prison or something much worse happens to them.

Chinese people are much more disciplined than others. Maybe the fines for not following lockdown rules are much harder than in other countries. Also, China is on top place for death penalty (sorry, found info only about year 2018 (https://www.amnesty.org/download/Documents/ACT5098702019ENGLISH.PDF)). When some countries will fine you for less than $100 for being outside during total lockdown, in China you could be sentences to death if you are infected and you infect someone.

Though I am not in the conspiracy side, but I believe Chinese government had some sort of concealment regarding the true number of their Covid deaths. I have read several articles months ago that in China, a lot of those relatives who died from this disease were not included in the tally or they died at home owed to crowding in hospitals. So we don't know the real number of death cases they have and the ongoing stats.

For me, maybe this effective handling of economy and Covid-19 is really an scapegoat for them so that this virus will not blamed to them. There are rumors about China denying the US accusations about the origin of Covid-19. Here is the link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52790634 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52790634), you can see here that they are strongly accusing US for saying false information about them.

Although US have a point that the virus really came from them. Their economy is not that affected which means that they are trying to say that this Corona virus came originally from US, because they are the one who are suffering the most economically and have the largest Covid-19 cases. Stock market of US is really in a downward movement due to their failure in handling this virus.

This is a good strategy for China, effective measures in controlling the virus and minimizing the risks of transmission, as well as the growth and stability in their economy.

Indeed. President Trump put all the blame to China about the pandemic of COVID-19, so that people in the US would ignore trump's mistakes in making their economy fall down rapidly than other countries. It is really great for China that they have been able to handle the COVID-19 and their economy, even though they are one of the countries that has huge cases of virus for them to keep themselves safe.

Why not lets get straight to the point that their economy survives because they are the one who's behind this virus?
I hate to speculate but there are so many theories that pointing towards them?
Good POint but other countries make it serious also,reacting after the threat spreads.
But China is really very competent in that matter.

Communism or dictatorship is important when it comes to enforcing laws, you will find a greater response from the people and you can impose a closure without problems or opposition,
Thus, these countries are the best to open the economy or reduce the number of deaths, but it is a temporary advantage and will be lost as soon as life returns to normal and the economy begins to move.
China will back when all countries back to open them Economics

Yes, I agree about that. I think they don't tell the truth about the Covid-19 itself, the number of people who died because of Covid-19. So it is a bit impossible if they say that they can cure people in a short time as we see in the news. I think that is included in the conspiracy theory because they don't want all of the government to know the truth. But there is another theory which tells that the virus has been developed in China, and they want to see what is the impact on people or the virus itself is leak by some coincidence thing that happens in the lab. I don't know, and I don't overthink that, better to keep healthy right now.

Not all countries can manage this pandemic like China did particularly in some countries with low standard of living and poor economy. What help China did is their great economy and discipline. Being the epicenter of the pandemic makes them to quickly decipher the best approach to prevent the spread of the disease. This is a country that have a lot of resources to provide their own medical equipment, sanitary products and so on. However, at a particular point in time, nobody knows the amount of recorded cases because they make it secret until the second waves of the pandemic started. A lot of countries need to learn from them especially many countries that depend on almost everything produced overseas and start thinking of also producing locally. Up till today many countries particularly in Africa still depends on test kits from abroad

China usually operated the Covid-19 through a severe lockdown They locked down people from one country to another. Even going out unnecessarily would result in fines and imprisonment. Due to this strict system China has been able to resist the virus faster than in other countries China is helping every country in the world to provide adequate insects because no country has yet discovered a vaccine for the virus.

Or they just pretends to be. :P

China is actually lying about total number of cases until now, many foreign media covered this news from various sources and we knows what happened to the scientists who found the virus in early stage, now he is no more.

China is not a democratic country, what government orders everyone should follow it no matter of what.

I saw some time on my FB page a video that comes from China, they are very strict and aggressively implementing social media distancing and also immediately close small businesses that can gather mass gathering like, canceling sporting events and shuttering theaters. Even their authorities are strictly patroling their citizen for home quarantine that should stay at home and nobody outside.

Probably these also might the reason they handle very well the virus and avoid spreading.

• Compelete medical and drugs
• built hospital in Wuhan exclusive for Covid19 victim and other facilities for those who infected.
• Stricly implemented security measures in any stablishment
• Did not rely on other's country help.

One thing that I like about the Chinese is that they are fiercely loyal and patriotic to their country. They prefer Chinese products to foreign brands and this preference extends everywhere, even in social media. Today in BBC News, I came across an article about Kweichow Moutai. It is virtually unknown outside China. And yet, they have become the world's largest liquor company.

Aside from having a rich economy, China has also a strong governance wherein people are very cooperative and strictly followed the rules imposed by the government. This is the reason why they have stopped the widespread of corona virus victims knowing how big is their population. Although they have numerous number of chinese citizens who got infected with this virus, but still its still nothing compared to other countries who have thousands of infected people.

These are well sorted points regarding china but what do we have to say about their spurious act of not telling the rest of the world regarding coronavirus. Their press news released we have novel coronavirus which has been newly found in bats and other animals. They never disclosed it has been introduced into the humans as well. They tried to cover up and thought might just solve the problem with few treatments. But they failed, they failed as decision maker, they let it spread everywhere and then they started taking precautions.

If this would been case in any other case then we also had such measures in first place and we could have stopped it for our country. It is that easy. Because for instance i know that there is spurious virus spreading and have to lock it right away, and would have done it.

Then we might have said all those things about that country.

Simply they were able to take the lockdown at very early stage and halted the spread of coronavirus. I don't see any excellency in china.

If that information was with us then we would have done the same.

While China has succeeded in confronting Corona wonderfully, an advanced European country has failed to tackle the problem like Italy, and China has surprised the world with this rapid containment of the Corona epidemic.
One of the most important reasons that helped this success is managing the crisis wisely and courageously, as the Chinese president personally supervised the process and quarantine was applied to a huge number of people in addition to the strong economy of China and the technological progress also helped in this.
I do not think that all countries are able to do what China did because we are seeing strong and advanced economic countries that have not yet managed to control the disease.

There are new Covid cases reported in China, just search. Moreover, they also "produce" a new virus carried by pigs.
They single-handedly ruin the world economy because of the corrupt regime didn't want to inform the world about the coronavirus epidemic and let infected spread the disease everywhere.

CCP propaganda won't work in this forum, sorry.

Or China is hiding the truth behind all their statement.  We all know that the Chinese government is well known to manipulate data information that is released globally.  It is another reason why WHO failed to address the pandemic as soon as possible since the DATA about the source of the pandemic was hidden by China.  It was then well known when a religious group from South Korea were infected that Health Society established a clearer view and knowledge about Covid-19. Aside from that, there is news of a young Chinese journalist that expose the real situation of China was gone missing.

The whole world has acknowledged that China is indeed a money-oriented country, and no wonder its economy is very strong.
Even in almost all countries there are Chinese people, so the Chinese character is very persistent to make money. Of all developed
countries affected by COVID19, only China has a fast recovery economy. Then the Chinese government is very strict in regulating
its citizens, no wonder Chinese citizens are very disciplined. This is an important factor they overcome COVID19. And it has been
proven in China that COVID19 infection has decreased very drastic.

Thank you for calling me "China fanboy" !!! In fact, I am neither a fan of the Communist system nor the capitalist system either. I am talking about China's success in controlling the Coronavirus in a short time. This is not my opinion alone, but the opinion of many people around the world.
As for your saying that China has produced a new type of virus, I can assure you that it is not only China that does this, but there are free and democratic countries that have created and deployed many viruses in the world like the United States and everyone knows that.
In the end, thank you for your opinion and I do not want the topic to turn into a political debate.

;D

It's fine if it's only your opinion and no need to take cover behind "group identity" that cannot be verified.
I can say the whole intelligent manly man community supports my opinion, but what's the point?

How did you know? Did you currently live there?

Could you name at least one in this peaceful era?

Yep, this is economics board, so I shall ask some economic question:
What do you think about China's GDP per capita? Is it still considered "strong" and "advanced" ?

We all know that china is one of the smartest and strategic country, so it's no wonder they can quickly recover from a pandemic crisis like covid-19.

Well my friend, it seems you and I are from two different worlds so it is normal for our opinions to be different and this is normal. To start with, I would like to tell you that I am neither a Chinese nor a Communist, and I am not a fan of the Chinese Communist regime, but I respect China's economic experience.
You asked me about China's GDP per capita. I can tell you that it has risen a lot in recent years and it is expected to increase a lot more in the coming years.
According to the chart that appears on this site, you will find that it increased from  6000$ in 2012 to  11,000$ in 2020 and this is a very good progress.
The chart can be seen from here:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263775/gross-domestic-product-gdp-per-capita-in-china/
 (https://www.statista.com/statistics/263775/gross-domestic-product-gdp-per-capita-in-china/)
Also you can see this China-US GDP comparison:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-us-vs-china-economy/ (https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-us-vs-china-economy/)

China is hiding a portion of the truth, which makes everything else essentially lies. But that's not happening in China alone. It's just that the hidden portion is much larger in China than in other countries, or so I think. Again, that is brought about by a very strong government. You try to show what is hidden and you will most certainly end up as hidden as those information. 

WHO has been around for more than 70 years and I guess the problems, or at least the great majority of those, they were addressing when it came forth are the very same problems that they are addressing now.

I think Chinese people followed all the Governments guidelines and health protocol...no wonder,  they are now containing the virus in their country. And aside from that, chinese people are very dedicated and hardworking and most of them are doing good in handling business...no wonder, their country is rich and growing. Surely then, they will gain back their losses immediately in all aspects especially their economy because of their persistency and hardwork.

Thank you for your quick response. #thumbup

Yes, it rises along with other countries. Depend on how you phrase it:
- Projected 2020: still below Mexico and Thailand
- World Bank 2018: still below Suriname
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita

Please be aware of using projection data since it might (likely) different from reality. You can safely draw your conclusion up to 2017, but not after:

The best practice always states whether the data is a projection or historical.

China is ruled by a mercantile, honorless single party corporation whose single motive is profits and world domination. Most of Chinese corporations have reached this level of development with a combination of IP theft, IP espionage by Chinese nationals studying in western universities and a clear national policy to support these things by money or coercion.
Not letting the world know about a deadly virus would fit perfectly into their Sun Tzu philosophy. I call the Chinese honorless because they treat warfare not as a battle of men and national capabilities but as an art of deception. Sample this:

The deception of not letting the world know that a wild virus has circulated to their cities. Hiding its severity and contagion potential despite the fact that WHO has been engaged with them since they started becoming breeding grounds for animal-origin flus.

"Breaking the enemies resistance without fighting." Look at their mercantile corporations putting countries into debt in the name of BRI. Look at the communist ideology being propagated in the name of equality by exploiting fault-lines of western societies. They launch online attacks and start tends on twitter. They finance schools for communist thoughts in western universities.

Nobody should doubt that the Chinese are very capable and dangerous with their money power and subsequently acquired muscle power. If you look closely, you can identify subtle pushes in the social media domain that want to disparage the way democracies function. For coming years, you will be told how communism/ chinese governance is better and the answer to a just world. People flock to this thought because of grudges with their own nations. China is using the pandemic as just another opportunity to further their goal of reviving their historic greatness. The rest of the world is little more than the prize for them.

Thank you, my friend, #thumbup (I don’t know why they don’t put the “thumb up” emoji here on the forum)

Since I am not a Chinese, I cannot defend China in a random or unscientific way. I do not know many facts about China, so it seems that you finally defeated me, but I was enjoying the dialogue with you. Of course, I and the other members also benefited from this information. Thank you.

China is a civilization. Business in China is divided into two, namely the national scale and abroad. On a national scale, the players are private. Meanwhile outside China is driven and driven by state-owned companies. Its employees must participate in activities such as conscription and be militarized and military educated. When they were distributed throughout the world by the Chinese government, specifically through the OBOR project. They are motivated to work and get married overseas, with the aim of increasing Chinese population and population throughout the world. So that it will reduce density in China.

One of my lobster buyers informed me that to ward off the coronavirus is very easy. One of the most popular doctors in China, doctor Zhang Wenghong advocated drinking lots of water, drinking milk, eating chicken eggs, sleeping a lot, and not leaving the house, to prevent the spread of Corona and many disciplined Chinese people to carry out this advice. The emphasis still does not leave the house to stem the spread.

Lets forget about all the conspiracy nonsense and used our imagination for once. China was the first to get hit by the virus which they immediately starting combating it in the quickest way possible but other countries felt relax, doubting the pandemic to be real. China knew they were fighting a virus that was capable of damaging their economy so they did everything possible to prevent that from happening.

American and Europe still belived the Chinese were spreading some propaganda to divert the world attention from the important things so as to gain advantage in regards to world economy dominance but unknowingly that wasn't what all the cries from the Chinese were about. I read that the Chinese were able to build hospitals in matter of hours or days (can't remember accurately since it has been quite long) to help combat the virus but what did the American or Europe do that could be identified as a vital steps towards combating the virus?

you mean they are now recovered  because they follow what they said by thier government   . is that is  ? govt wont do something bad to threaten thier country but they will only do what its right  .
 
thats a fact  but they cant totally recovered without other country or while other country is still suffering from the crisis because other country is still lockdown and wont allow import and export from different country including china   .  same as with china , they also closed thier boarders for a while just to be safe  .

Agree from that point of view, making right  decision to protect your citizens and not to point fingers
safety first and how to lessen the spread.
American and Europe supposedly bringing the fight from this pandemic while dealing with their economy
its not the money but the health secureness.
They need to have proper plans and more safety protocols in fighting this pandemic, war should be the
last thing to think, more strategic plans to save
both the people's health and the economy from drowning.

Many are surprised by China, because of all the countries affected by the corona virus, only China appears to be ready.
Even the Chinese economy is recovering the fastest, maybe this is because the Chinese government is always firm in
making decisions. In handling corona virus, China it is very fast in dealing with it starting from the supply of medical
devices and also built a hospital so quickly, this is evidence that China is serious about dealing with the corona virus.

It could be that China had planned earlier because we know that there are many who talk about the conspiracy about this corona virus so that many view that China has done this all, first China experienced this outbreak with many casualties but there is no confirmation of the total number but it has spread to other countries and for them this is certainly difficult because it is the first time handling cases like this that they are therefore a bit panicked over what has happened to him.

But on the other hand the Chinese economy is increasing because of trade that continues to skyrocket despite this condition?

China is known to not care about their people and still get out of it without a trouble. This is the same nation that allowed 20 million to starve to death (and so much more people losing weight and becoming tiny) just so they could sell crops to other nations and get guns and other stuff to get bigger.

So, when something like a big pandemic happens, they would basically close it all down and let those people die instead of actually trying to make it like other nations.

China and the way they handle the virus is not an example to anyone at all, it is horrible and inhumane. Our nation had kids there and those kids came back losing tens of pounds after months of being stuck there, they got same small amount of portion of food given to them and they weren't allowed to even get money back from home and buy something, you couldn't even if you can afford or want to. It is just a whole horrible nation that's run by the worst kind of human possible.

Damn, I’m just getting to know about this. So, China has been able to beat this Coronavirus? :o While other countries are still struggling with it. They even seemed to be prepared for it, they didn’t waste time in battling it when it started to spread, despite the fact that they have one of the largest population in the world (if not the largest) but they were still able to win the battle against Covid-19. I just checked now onWorldometers.info, and the active cases in China is just 421, whereas other countries are having thousands of cases.

I agree because it is confirmed by their policies over the decade. Their communism is overshadowed by dictatorship kind of policies. China cannot be example for anything regardless of how they have built their world second largest economy in last 2 decades of times. They got manpower to achieve that at the same time it seems they do bother human lives the least even with their own people.

And don't ingore fact that China is a country with pretty closed borders.
And they really don't like sharing any valuable info, so easily could be lying about that

Or It could be that, China has already been equiped and well prepared with whatever contagious diseases that will spread among the the people. If you can still remember in 2003 a SARS-cov spread in the province of China. So, most probably the country was set to prepare funds, medical equipments, possible cure, isolation facilities, and including economical contingency plan.
Let's set aside these conspiracy theory, let's tackle first the most credible possibility.


One of the major reason is the demand on medical supplies from China. Let alone in Asia, the demand increases as the cases is increasing everyday.

I don't know why but my country doesn't use locally made testing kits, instead they're buying bulk orders from China.

The Chinese economy and they will manage Covid-19 very easily because the outbreak of this virus first appeared in China. Originating from China they provided the necessary pesticides and medical supplies for the cure so they were able to prevent the virus very quickly. As China is the most powerful country, its economy is much better. Compared to other countries Covid-19 has been able to operate as the medical system has improved.

They are a huge industrial nation, they do not care about air and pollution too much as we all know and that helps them to basically be production place for the whole worlds items. This is basically why I believe that even with covid going around they could find stuff to produce.

For example, they either gave away or sold hundreds of thousands of test kits, which means they kept people in the market for buying something with china, they basically kept people in talks with them instead of looking for another place. All of this basically resulted with China going back to how things were when all of this is over, a friend of mine who ships stuff to here from china actually said his ship is on the way and coming to Jersey in early August, which means they are actually doing quite fine.

You have a point on this because watched some videos on their country on how their people followed the government rules. I think the people there are not stubborn unlike here in our country . Also ,I believed that they have medicine for this virus because it was from their country that's why they handle it easily and only small number are affected.

Most of the media channels of the entire world are speculating that China isn't showing the actual number of cases and these speculations were supported by the fact that a lot more Mobile connections and bank accounts were closed during the time period in which covid-19 was spreading in China at a rapid rate.
Actually if the countries follow lockdowns seriously like New Zealand then they can eliminate this epidemic from their country as well.

The government of China is really amazing in hadling this pandemic in their country although it all started from there. The fact that they know how to handle viruses because their country is prone to such things, as well as a strong government and unstubborn country men to follow government's rule, that is the reason why China handled the virus very well and the reason why they have very little active case now than they had on the previous months.

If only other countries can do the same thing as they do and people are very discpline to follow same rules, then everything could have been handled well and there will be less cases than we have now.

We cannot ignore the fact that Chinese government hides the truth regarding the pandemic.  Yes, they can build infrastructure in a matter of weeks but it does not remove the fact that they hide information about the origin of the virus.  In medicine, it is very important to point out the very first origin of the transmission of the virus since they can study data and graph the evolution of the virus from patient to patient.  But China did not release data on this and keep it for their own sake.  But I agree, it is not wise to wage war on this kind of reasoning.  Every country is affected by this pandemic so taking this as an opportunity to wage war against other countries is far too insane.  


Have you  heard or read articles about succeeding waves of Covid-19 infestation in China?  Some news outlet in youtube say so, so I guess they are not as amazing as we think.

China, once the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic, appears to be turning a corner. As the number of reported local transmission cases hovers near zero, daily life is slowly returning to normal. However, economic data from the first two months of the year shows the damage done to the country’s finances. But we already know that China is one of the biggest country they can recover easily compare to the 3rd world country.

The difference between China and developing countries and poor countries is the ammunition (read: money). China is accustomed to printing money based on projects, so the mechanisms and systems are neatly organized, so as long as there are multi-layered and productive projects, money is readily available, and licensing is made easy. For those when the total lockdown of the Chinese government is not confused the problem of budged is different from developing and poor countries. In addition, China's multistreaming income is also large because the majority of trade is surplus, in addition to the country's foreign exchange reserves, are also large, so that even though the economy had contracted, but China remained strong. While many in developing countries have started to have a discourse on printing money but are still confused about its practices and applications.

While what distinguishes China from other countries in dealing with corona is experience. Something that doesn't kill you will make you stronger. The bird flu virus that is believed to have been created to weaken China actually creates spectacular experiences so that they have a planned, systematic, and modern emergency response in the face of the next pandemic. If compared to the human body, China now has a strong defense (antibody) against disease.

the problem is that the governance systems in each country are different, and also in the country's economy, if developed countries might impose lockdowns or implement recommended health protocols during a pandemic it might be easier to realize than in developing and poor countries.

At first, that's what I believe when it was still china who has the highest number of covid cases, but as time pass by and I read a lot of news and articles, it's already confusing me and I don't anymore believe that anyone have accurately identified the root cause of the corona virus.

They are actually accusing each other, like China accuse US and vice versa, so I'm not anymore interested on where this virus came from, what interest me now is on how and when the vaccine and the cure will be release.

Same here. There will be conspiracy theories but we don't need it right now. What we need is the potent vaccine to combat this pandemic. So maybe, maybe we will slowly live a lil bit of normal life again.

Actually the developed countries are doing a good job in preventing the spread than the developing and under developed countries. The number of cases are also pretty less in developed countries as compared to the developing countries. But here my main question was about the Chinese government hiding the actual number of cases which doesn't happen pretty often in a democratic country that China says it is.

What is done,, is done. Whether the virus came because Chines eat everything that is alive or because of something else, we might never know and there is no use in accusations.However, now it's important to find the way to keep pandemic under control and to enable to economies to recover.
I beleive that Chinese will have advantage in recovery compared with US and Europe, they will put their economy back on feet much faster and again be one step ahead.

We all see that as they never exceed 100,000 number of cases, and US also accused them of under reporting cases because US can't control the increase of their cases which have already  balloon to almost 3 million now. It' not really helpful at all, what they have to do is just to follow the model of the China on how they contain the virus so their economy will also recover, the problem is some countries especially the big countries are underestimating the virus so they are suffering now.

We still do not know much about this pandemic, how it started and whether it is a natural development of the flu or manipulated in the Chinese intelligence.
China is one of the few countries that has seen an increase in the rate of cases and has succeeded in containing the disease.
Recklessness and failure to follow healthy protocols is what threatens many lives.
Staying home and following proper procedures is the only weapon until treatment is found.

I believe that it is very difficult to determine where the truth is and where the False. Of course, very often, many blame China for spreading the coronavirus. but it can also be assumed that it was the Chinese people who were the victims of their potential economic and political opponents from other countries. I believe that this scenario should also not be ruled out.

China isn't a democratic country, what they orders to the people everyone have to obey without asking any questions further but all other countries even developed nation allows everyone to have their freedom of speech and their rights no matter what is the situation which makes the difference.Moreover we don't really knows that they controlled the spread for real because from many leaks we can see they are clearly hiding the case numbers.

almost all countries which are fully controlled by the government and are not given democratic freedom. can overcome the pandemic problem well because what the government says no one is against the rules that have been made. In Southeast Asia there are also China such as Vietnam, they can overcome the pandemic quickly and finish without people breaking the rules made by the government.

in a situation like this where a pandemic is very fast transmission should the government be assisted with full awareness of the community so that the pandemic can be finished immediately. but they are violating and do not want to be restrained because they violate the freedom to express opinions and actions. then it is certain that a pandemic will be difficult to implement.

Korea and Japan are countries that indeed give freedom to express opinions well but the people have high awareness and are willing to help the government so they can also quickly solve the pandemic problem well.

there are good and bad when it comes to obedience to the rules that have been made by the government for good. for a pandemic there must be special extras so they can realize.

Yup, their government is strict and they always respect their leaders in power. Seriously, you can’t mess up in that place, if you do, you will have your case handled and your ass whooped badly. They were the first country to have this Coronavirus, instead of the number of Covid19 cases in their country to be going up, it’s rather decreasing while other countries where it never started are now the ones that are having growing numbers of Coronavirus cases. Really bad. And by the way, they are not the only ones that did a lockdown, other countries too did a lockdown and it never worked.

As per the latest news, WHO's representatives are arriving China for collecting/finding the root-cause of covid19 outbreak. Not sure where it will end up; if anything against China goes from here, then the chances for economic ban on China is more.

That is true. The density of population in China is low (except few major cities) whereas other low populated countries but with high density in one or two cities are severely getting infected and underestimating the virus must be one valid reason here. I guess many countries are still studying China's model on contain the spread of virus but without cooperating from public, nothing is possible to achieve.

discipline for me is my own desire to live it in order to prevent transmission, while the rules made if you want to frighten humans will not be carried out properly if not accompanied by high awareness, hopefully this problem will soon end.
and we can move as usual.

Or maybe they have already know the Virus before it even appear in Media thats why they have countered it that fast and accuracy ?

There are so many news coming now about their activity towards this virus and the way we look at the evidence?there are part of it that are true and legit.
They must be the one whos responsible for this many lives that gone because of their own interests .
Some are planted and some are really intentional .

it is an act that we must realize for the transmission of the pandemic virus that is not widespread. I also do settling at home for the common good in fighting this pandemic virus quickly disappear. But still in my country there are still many careless people doing activities in and out of the city. that makes me upset and don't have the right to think about life safety for the environment?
really not wanted from me a thing like that??

How China stopped the spread of virus so easily when every country is struggling, they simply stopped saying it to the world, nothing more.No one can find what is the actual situation inside China, what their communist media report is the only thing we know.And also now there are more doubts occurs related to where this virus originated, Taiwan reported there is some kind of spread in Spetember itself but China denies it along with WHO.

Agreed, we don't actually know if China really did handle things, because of their media being controlled by govs
At least we can try to follow their steps
I honestly am not sure if any other country tried that hard to maintain the virus + be aware of 2 factors:
1) they are "ahead" of other countries with couple months
2) they've had no problems with people crossing the borders, because obviously they were the ones to infest others

China's economy and they will manage Covid-19 very easily.
The tendency to keep the coronavirus vaccine or permanent vaccine in check is called vaccine nationalism which experts say could pose a man-made disaster to the world's public health and economy. Already such moves by governments in some influential countries are turning global vaccine efforts into an arms race they said.

Analysts at the Eurasia Group an international consultancy on the political risks of trade say the fight against the covid antidote could escalate this summer As a result the fight to get the antidote produced may last from 2021 to 2022. However compared to other countries China is far ahead in terms of antidotes.

A few may have known of the virus earlier. As a matter of fact, the doctor who was arrested for announcing the existence of the virus noticed it way before the virus or the disease got its name. It was set aside, however. It was only given due attention when it was discovered to be very infectious and a good number of their people have gotten the disease already.

There is still no vaccine or medicine yet. And perhaps the most effective way to counter the spread of the virus is to limit the movements of the people to the most minimum. This is where China has the edge over other countries. They basically has the power to make their people follow.

We have too many theories, and each of them has some logic behind, I don't bother myself with that anymore. I am not sure we will ever know the real truth, maybe someday in the future...
I agree that China has the edge here, because of the structure, their government has much more power over the people than other big countries. What they did, other countries can't even think about doing that, its a bottom line. Darker basically they have the power to force their people to follow. Did you see some new laws in Hong Kong, life sentence for protestors. I saw that yesterday on TV, I am not sure is it official or they plan to push that law in near future, that's crazy!

Yes, basically whatever the major updates inside their country, keeps only inside their country,

The media report gives only minimal information and the whole world has no information about how really stopped the spread of the virus. It seems like they are not really interested on helping the other nation or share their ways to stop it from spreading.

In my opinion and due to how China were able to tackle this whole issue in their place, it seems they were well prepared even before the virus hit them. Although the virus started late 2019, but before it went viral in early 2020 China have already got a way out. The virus didn't spread all over the country as compared to other countries that were victim, take for example Italy, US etc. And in Africa, the virus is becoming almost uncontrollable, even after serious adherence to the rules and regulations.

Though one thing is sure that China was able to control the virus very quickly as compared to all other nations. Now what strategy did they use it to curb is interesting to know. When all countries are struggling and each day the cases are rising, China doing so well. Either they have found the vaccine, so they are able to control it or else they are maintaining proper protocol and still people are very cautious and flowing all the government rules and thus it is not spreading.

China is a communist nation so basically they control everything they won't allow news to spread without their knowledge.


For sure, they only wants what they prefer to spread, no real numbers and no real info about how they prevent if the virus really been co


They are keeping everything they are not really sharing information, there's no sign that they wanted to help.

Yeah, everything is all about force. The government has so much force in them they are absolutely free to jail or even to completely dispense with any individual who the government sees or thinks as a pain in the ass. This is something other countries cannot do, especially in those which I consider sociopolitically advance.

The law has been implemented already if what you refer to is the controversial Hong Kong Security Law. That's a crazy law but that is something that is expected from a crazy country. Poor Hong Kong!

If you notice all dictatorship kind of countries are controlling spread of virus more effectively compared to how republic counties are doing. Most middle east counties, North Korea and China are good example here. This is simply because of strict law enforcement. When there is a breach of law about lockdown restrictions, and if the punishments are too severe then definitely people will make their lockdown the most successful one. This is what exactly happened in China.

All other counties are really struggling in controlling spread of virus because they value people's basic rights. But, people go for life's essential needs and pick up virus spread. If governments are able to supply essential things at door steps at least for 15 to 20 days then they could contain the spread of covid18 somehow.

They actually controlled it because they were the first country to experience it and they are quite flexible as I heard they created a large number of hospitals within only 10 days, which is actually how their economy is so rich, because of their speed be it with manufacturing or with hospital building as we see.

You can read about it here - https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-51280586


Government can do that but people have to move out for work and their jobs since not all the industries can allow work from home and hence they have to move out for work and the government should but probably could not afford the essentials for 20 days free of cost.

There is an intention behind these, they just want to beat USA and want to become the super power of the world so they are trying to damage the other nations economy.Still China doesn't allow the researchers team to enter into their country to find where this virus originated so it will be really helpful in finding the permanent cure for this.

The people have huge respect for their government leaders and trusted their strategy. Maybe we could say that they are smart enough but most likely, they are preparing this to happen or maybe it is being predicted.

China has everything and put them into an advantage,
-power
-resources

That makes them easier to recover while the others are still fighting. But if their people had never listened to the authorities, they all just the same as the other big countries. They never let this thing happen nor to feel at ease with the situation but they strike it hard just to cut the spread.

They struggled, it's impossible they just stopped the spread easily. Might be there are things that didn't come out to the news, but there is an international news agency that covers the pandemic situation there for months or even before it hits the majority of the country in the world. It took several months before it sees good progress and that's the time now that other countries now started to get hit.


I think these are part of the conspiracies you have read elsewhere.

I know those have pointers but it's good not to read too much about it.

Chinese people are disciplined. They will not able to wake up from being a sleeping giant for centuries without a reason.

China imposed strict lockdown which is not possible on any other countries for sure, I heard they even locked down every apartments and no one allowed to buy anything even groceries for many weeks but still it only can pause the spread not entirely.

And also China is really trying to capture the international waters in South China sea in the recent times and US is trying to bully China by sending their battlefield ships there which really shows the China's intention.

China is a place where covid19 virus originated so,no wonder if they can handle it easy not to spread too much on their country. I also believed that China Government knows the cure for this virus but they keep it secret to their fellow country. Hope that other countries can also make a medicine to fight against this covid virus.

If they had such a medicine then they wouldn't have had that many deaths which they saw during the initial burst of corona and then it flew to other countries. They have a agile economic structure and they are really fast at almost everything so once they see a situation they are able to fight it better than others.

Other countries are failing to stop the virus because there are not enough solid steps being taken and some countries cannot control it simply because their economy cannot allow them to lock down people for months. I think having a strong economy if the first thing you need to survive the pandemic and this is one reason why China came out of it so quickly but makes me wonder why USA struggled so much despite a fat economy.

From the very beginning of this pandemic, I generally had the total conviction, that COVID-19 was a planned action to justify the fall of American markets. Then, when mass diseases began in Italy, I began to doubt and realized that the virus still exists, although none of my relatives hurt them. Perhaps this virus is not as scary as it is painted. Is this more a political game?

Most countries in Asia like Taiwan and Thailand have done the same thing. They have a strong strong government and they follow all the precautionary measures. Their government has handled the situation earlier than other countries. They took everything seriously and follow the quarantine rules.
If our country have done the same thing, I'm sure that we're not on top of the list of high-risk countries right now. One major problem here is the lack of discipline of people and we can't blame them because most of us here need to go out and take the risks to work because the government can't sustain our living anymore.

Does that mean that their during their lockdown no one was going outside at all? Because I know for sure that there are lots of poor people there and such poor people can’t stay indoors for long when they don’t have meal on their table, nobody can do such thing.

It is not easy to stay indoors during a lockdown when you have nothing. Some of us might see it as an easy thing because we have the money and we have already stocked up our stores with food that will last us for months. I believe they were able to get this under control by strictly banning interstates travel or maybe they are the ones behind this and know how to handle it.

Chinese government locked everywhere no matter you have food or not, that is how they stop the spread and there is another conspiracy about 1 million users lost from network communication while they imposed locked down which means they died?

they will be dead if that is the actualy thing that happen on thier country but who would wanted to die without doing anything ? if im on those situation i think i will still sneak to go outside and find a source of food to eat and other basic necesities that ill be needing   .  this is totally unfair for a poor person but rich people wont have a problem with these . we are lucky if there are rich people that are willing to help  , they can go outside as well and sneak on the guards because of no signal  to comunicate  just to provide help for the poor 

Remember China isn't democratic country so you can't expect freedom of speech or can't justify you action against the laws and I am sure you will be sentenced to death if you violate this, maybe government may given basic needs at the time but how much people can get benefit from those, because they have 1.4 billion population.

There is no source confirming the statement. China suffered, but it hasn't revealed the truth till date. This is a major reason the tension between America and China. Even now the death out of corona in America is around 140000. There is possibilities for a higher death in China, but I don't think it could've reached the one million mark.

China being dominant in the raw material production of each and everything the economy hasn't suffered big. Importing countries were the one to suffer big economic blow.

Lot of companie trying to move their production plant from China due to the shady activity of covid there that is the real reason why China is making issues related to borders with many countries and letting the weaker country to believe they are still strong enough.

Now a days the condition of china republic is firmly good, Because Covid-19 was fast traced in China at Uahan, That a long time it fight against this pandemic. As a result after a long time the economical slow down of china republic. Reached is top through the well planing, potential skill and many other necessary things that much cooperative for it's economy.

However the true thing is that i much say the innovative plan of China GOVT may able to recover such a great hindrance.

Although most people believe that the Coronavirus epidemic originated in China, China has been able to deal with the epidemic very successfully and has been able to revive its economy. Where most of the world's countries have been struggling with epidemics and try to save their economic collapse, China has been able to deal with it and revive economic activity. The Chinese socialist government has taken drastic measures to deal with the epidemic and has quickly completed various necessary actions. The Chinese government has brought the entire Wuhan city under complete lockdown to prevent it from spreading and their health department has been able to select the affected people through emergency-based hospitals and a large number of tests. Moreover, as most of the medical equipment and medicines are manufactured in China, China has used them to act quickly against the coronavirus epidemic and to be able to start their economic activities as soon as possible. They have sent Mask and other medical equipment to various countries, encouraging other countries to buy it and positively instructing them to resume trade with the outside world in response to the epidemic.

Well, China is a country with strict control and regulations when it comes to its citizens. Plus, as the origin of the country, they were able to spectacularly quarantine the Covid even before the worse situation was to come, so that was prevented there and then. The only negative thing here is most likely the fact that they allowed it to get out of their country. Well, considering that it was just discovered a few months after the possible case, It can't really be helped but then again, if they were able to notice it much earlier, the number of cases right now wouldn't be as high.

It's not like I agree with the way China runs its country, nor can I actually disagree with it fully since I don't run one, but the fact that they adopt such ways was possible the reason they were able to progress with regards to the virus right now. With how they have total control over literally everything, with anything against their way being met with absolute retaliation, It was no doubt that they were able to, as you can see anyway with how other countries are faring. If you were to compare it to other countries, then China would be pretty tight with security while others are pretty lax ( in comparison with the way they do things that is).

You can organise delivery of groceries fro people. I know china had that organised and in my country in Europe we also have that organised for old people. IT was organised locally. And not a very hard organisation problem since it lasted only few weeks. a lot of people could not go to work so people were free to help in such voluntary actions.

No. 1 and 2 are the keys to success. because of the discipline of the community will help achieve the success of government programs. even though those 5 things have been carried out by them, covid-19 still exists and only moves from Wuhan to other cities. this means need more struggle until the vaccine is actually found. so other countries only need to add tips that don't yet exist.

Discipline and obedience is the two significant factor to help the economy not to collape and to minimize the spreading of virus. Also i believed China know how to handle this situation of pandemic because covid 19 virus comes from thier country and for that reason they also know how to prevent it.

I can't just say that all of the people are just a scheme of the government. There are a lot of families lost here, people tending with the virus that died and I don't think they are just a "political game". You relatives are following protocols and taking care of themselves. This is not a joke nor a game, it is a pandemic.

And we can't tell whether if this COVID-19 was really planned or a man-made virus by China. But yes, this is not a political game, it cost so much not only in one country, but the whole world is suffering due to this pandemic. Maybe his relatives are not suffering by now, he should be grateful, but now one is still safe from this virus.

May be it is not controlled by any gov but it is true that they are trying to play political game using it. Something in the whole incident which can not explained using logic.
1. From the beginning of the pandemic WHO is providing misleading informations.
2. The medicines like remdesevir which does not have authentic proof of helping the patient is allowed to sell as a treatment for corona at a huge price.
3. None of the country have taken a proper action to stop its spreading.
4. The virus was originated at china about Nov,19 but detected at least a month latter, though it spread only at Wuhan.

People in China are being rich in the food beverage and they all know how to save on expenses, other than food they are really economical and they know a lot about the bloated diet, therefore, even a half a year of lockdown they all survive its either ECQ towards into GCQ because they also went through a lot of hardship so their country was rapidly advancing in progress, unlike in remote areas where all cost are incurred then if the disaster has come, the government is blame.

Yeah I agree with you strongly on this, as the usgae of digital currencies in China increases in the territory, they have much access to alternative means of payment as such they are able to achieve this in particular.

You can not say this is totally true, if you don't have enough evidence. Yes they eat exottic food, but don't forget they have been eating those for ages, thousands of years ago, why no such cases until now. And again why just Wuhan? Are they the only ones that  eat this exotic foods? You can't say for sure. A Chinese Foreign ministry spokesman also were trying to promote an idea that covid might have originated from US, but this was with no evidence. There's no prove for either case

This is helpful for Chinese people to go back to work and be productive. We know so many countries don't have adequate number of PPEs to go round for them and so they are not easily finding themselves to work. Not only that too, the governments that rely on other countries for supply usually suffer. China is a productive economy and they are supplying many manufactured product globally and that is having positive effect to their economy .

This is still not sure what happened why were 1 million users were out from the network. Since the media does not have a free right to present the ground facts so it is unknown. But bringing back the economy slowly and starting everything even during this pandemic still exists with not many cases is really an appreciated. World needs to know how they were managed to control the cases so that others can follow.

Those were really good factors how Chinese government is seriously handling the problem. Imagine, they are ground zero of this pandemic but still they were the first one to flatten the curve and to resolve the problem with regards to the spread of virus. It is undeniably that the government and its people are being serious on how they can get back to normal because cooperation of both parties is really one of the main key to resolve this problem. Added by the fact that they have a rich economy which can totally give them the essentials to fight back against this virus that have started from them. That is the real power of economic influence, strict leadership, and disciplined citizens and all of those are brought together making them resolve the problem that easy.


It is possible to be achievable by other countries. It just really need to take cooperation from both government and citizens. Proper implementation of plan that will benefit the people since they were the ones who are really affected by this pandemic. The problem with other countries is that people and government are both fighting each other and not focusing on what the real problem is which leads to misunderstanding and misleading on what the important matter is. If they can somehow do cooperate of course with the presence of funds to help the citizens out, every country can surely attain what China have done to resolve the problem.

They are good, even though the communist of China are very strict, they manage to flatten the curve easily and they managed to end the outbreak easily. It is really unbelievable that they build a hospital for Coronavirus patient in just 10 days. Their regulation are also good and their citizen easily followed it and that is the reason why they are now corona virus free.

You see, a country that has focus beginning with the leadership, "the government" can make success easily achieved. What am I trying to say? When the majority of the citizens know that the government is responsible and positively active, they cooperate with them, has large as China's population is majority contributes to the progress of her economy because they have tangible things to show for it and are still supported from early stage. not all this selfish, corrupt, wicked and greedy government who does not care about the citizens and still sees pandemic as an opportunity to steal money, even the donated funds for the hungry.

Chinese people are civilized and responsible, that is why they managed to flatten the curve of their virus cases, and they are now starting to recover their economy. Even though the coronavirus was started in their country, most of their citizens managed to cooperate with their government with no problems.

I have no doubt that the Chinese people are civilized and law abiding. But that is the case in other countries as well. So what made the difference here?

The advantage with China is that it is an authoritarian country, with no room for personal liberty or human rights. So obviously when the government announced a complete lockdown, the people had no choice other than to comply with it. Those who refused to follow the order were arrested and quarantined. Now this is something that can't be implemented in democratic nations. In US, Australia.etc, you can find a lot of people who are roaming in the streets even in places where lockdown is announced. And in the US, people are protesting against the requirement to wear masks.

Philippines is where I live, and it's a democratic nation but the government can implement a martial law if necessary.

I agree with you, it really comes to the discipline of the people, I thought china had the worst case as they were first in the race but they stopped and able to neutralized to the pandemic so I admire them. I am hoping that our cases will reduce, or neutralized, though we are still at below 100k cases, but it's spreading fast, maybe soon, the government will implement a martial law and I'm expecting that.

Some Chinese doctors went to our country last time, right? It's just not clear to me what they did here. I hope Ph gov't got some techniques and ways on how we can slow the spread of the virus like the Chinese did on their country.

Well, discipline of citizens really has a huge factor to a country's situation right now. If they insist on going out even if it's unnecessary, or if they won't comply with the rules, then the number of positive cases will surely increase.

From the news earlier, our country's number of positive cases is now over 68k but the active cases is around 43k. There's no decline in the curve that's happening. Instead, it is spiking upwards. I don't know if martial law is necessary right now. But I hope our fellow citizens will abide the protocols so that martial law won't be implemented.

Maybe they get something from them, China is our ally country so we can expect they'll help us in any way.



That's the really the problem with our country, that's why we are not progressive like other countries but I believe if this rate will not stop and cause by the people not following a simple rules, the government might declare a martial.

Our military forces needs to be visible in the streets so people will follow.

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1853088/Cebu/Local-News/Cebu-City-well-equipped-to-wage-war-v-coronavirus

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That is actually on point, because the Chinese government might be bad to India with their border tensions and maybe they have sore relations with US but they are very loyal and honest with their own people and there is a good bond between people and the government which makes decision taking easy for them and easy to implement strategies like lockdown as everyone loves to obey what their government says.

I feel a big reason why they survived the situation is also because they are economically very sound and since they were the first country that suffered they got extra time as compared to others and they already gone through the stages which other countries are now going through.

In that case economies of the US and EU are in better shape. So they could have fared well. That didn't happened. What happened in China is that the government strictly imposed lockdown measures without any laxity. For example, the city of Wuhan (which is home to 11 million people) was under lockdown for almost 10 weeks. The citizens had no option other than to stay at home.

On the other hand, in countries such as India the people didn't cooperated with the authorities. When the first lockdown (3 weeks) was announced, the people supported the authorities and stayed at home. But when the lockdown got extended, they refused to stay at home or to follow safety measures. And that was the reason why the situation in India worsened after doing well initially.

Not really because you can see a lot of people protesting against the government on most things like for example the BLM movement, I am not saying it is right or wrong but you can see the tension among people against their leaders and they don't seem to agree with the decisions their leaders are taking and the people in power don't have the same faith of their people as people in china have in their leaders.

I partially agree and that is the one reason why sometimes dictatorship can be better than democracy because people take their democratic rights too seriously and don't want to understand what the situation is and this is where a dictator can make and force a decision which in usual days might not be good but in situation like this is perfect.

They are not handling stuff this well because they are somehow good or better than some other nations, they are handling it "very well" because they do not care about anyone else, they are simply just letting people die, starve, or basically be incredibly poor all around.

They have sweatshops where people work so much that they actually die from exhaustion, I am not even talking about you and me having a bad day type of stuff, I am talking about people working 18-20 hours per day to find some food in order to not starve. That is why it is incredibly important for other nations to realize this inhumane situation in the world and somehow manage to not have deals with them anymore, the more we work with them the stronger they get and the stronger they can the more they make their own people suffer while keeping the rich dictator and his surroundings happy.

This just shows how powerful really the economy of China is when it comes to situation like this because it can do support its people even at this time of pandemic. Even though they were the ground zero or the starting point of this situation, they still manages to discipline its people to follow the rules given by the government. It exhibits how coordination between the government and the people works to be able to conquer this situation we are all currently lying in.

Other countries even not that big or not that rich can do the same thing on how China handles this pandemic because it all just needed to start from understanding and cooperation coming from the government on how it plans and execute platforms that will help its people to still stand at this time and of course the discipline that people must exhibit on following the rules and regulations needed to help the government manage things so that current crisis won't get worst.

Probably China can truly recover that fast even after this struggle because of their rich economy and strict government they have. Imagine the case started from them but still they manage to lead it a way to stop and flatten the curve of the number of cases they have with the help of both parties (government and citizens).

What is up with all these people praising Chinese Govt being strict and able to recover from the pandemic. Do you all realize what is the difference between a communist country and a democratic country?? The difference is not that the people are somehow less disciplined. The difference is in flow of information and free media. In your average democratic country, everything will be out in the open and ready to be video recorded and posted on Social media. You are free to do what you want with your life and have the dreams you want to have.

You are not some accounted for resource in the hierarchy of the politburo. Unlike the Chinese peasant to the Chinese businessman, your pecking order and things you can do or cannot do is not pre-decided. Surely, this has its advantages but it also has its disadvantages. Ask those generations of Chinese parents who had to nurture a single child and not have any of those family dreams that you are free to have. The CCP has total control over its people and has strategically opened themselves to the free market. The western economies in their naivete transferred their Know-how freely to the chinese. In cases where they didn't, the Chinese stole it by employing cyber-warfare on unsuspecting targets. The strength of economy and complete sub-ordination of its people helped them to curb the virus but not without casualties. The Chinese media is silent on casualties and there is no way for anybody to get the real information out. The ultra-nationalism has been flamed at the same time so that people can be distracted from their human losses.

Democracies are not perfect but CCP is no role model either. It is amazing to see how all these people frequenting Satoshi's forum are quick to fall to their knees praying to some communist overlord to swoop down and save them. Disgusting is what you all are. These communists have wiped out cultures like Tibetans and Uighurs to make them "better-suited" to CCP. If that means, inhuman conditions or Human Right Violence, so be it. Without a free media, people don't even know what transpires as generations of chinese spend lives in servitude and following a path pre-written as per their role in society. That is not what humans are meant to do. This is not to say that the Chinese achievements are not exemplary. Yet, comparing that to your own democracies because of a pandemic, shows your own failure to truly understand what it would have been like to have your children turn into mush under tank-treads, just because they dared to protest.

This issue may not exist in an ideal democracy. But today, democracy has deviated from the core principles. The main aim of democracy was to give equal rights to everyone. What happens in democracy today is that groups which have the numerical superiority and bargaining power can dominate the governments and thereby the policy decisions. These blocs force the political parties to accede to their unfair demands. This in turn negatively impacts the minority groups, who don't have the same level of bargaining power.

The biggest disadvantage with democracy is that if a particular group increases its population, then it will get more power. The groups which are having stable populations will witness a declining hold on the governments. I can give numerous examples, such as the Balkans, Lebanon and Malaysia.

In a dictatorship, this situation is avoided. In China, the Han ethnic group is having a very low population growth, and yet they haven't witnessed a decline in their bargaining power. Some of the minorities such as Uighurs and Kazakhs are increasing in number. But since there is no democracy in China, these people are unable to convert their increasing population to an increase in bargaining power.

This just shows how China can fastly respond to the need of its people since it have its very rich economy and resources to easily came up into plans on how the citizens will be properly disciplined to follow certain rules and regulations of their government to act and have a solution with regards to the case of covid-19 pandemic infection in their country. It's not already a surprise that China can manage to do such an incredible thing because of the strict government they have and people are really cooperative to follow since it is really the response that must be done amid with the existence of the pandemic.

China have certainly and properly manage its people very well which exhibits how the government and citizens will do an efficient task fast specially when they are coordinating with each other. Other countries can do also such thing if people and government would only allow coordination to take place. But as what I can see the problem is that there are lots of complaints coming from both parties like what is currently happening on the country where I reside plus the people are hard headed not following certain instructions which leads for the number of cases to still continue to rise. Any country can also do the same thing that China did when it comes to discipline to at least ease the number of infection. What becomes the main edge of China is having their rich economy and resources to do a fast response on the said matter despite of the fact that the cases started from their country.

First of all we know that China is emerging superpower, China makes all the product from needle to planes and all.

People from China is very disciplined they respect the orders implemented by the government people from China believe whatever government implement they implement for the betterment of people. They have taken collective actions, they worked together, they implemented SOPs/followed them with full responsibility. The measures were stricter in China making impossible to jump to other people and many other things.

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China is closer to capitalist socialists than communists. Leadership style is one of the characteristics possessed by a leader. Basically, a leader's leadership style must be adapted to the situation and people's obedience depends on the behavior of the leader.

In an autocratic leadership style, it will certainly produce results which is good if the leader who holds full power and takes a punitive approach to the violators of his policy, does so wisely for the progress of the country not because of personal interests. So that it will create more discipline good and even tighter competition. Thus the performance of the community is increasing.

China is synonymous with propaganda. Xi has absolute authority, makes all decisions and policies, communication is one-way, supervision of the community takes place strictly. Repressive measures are chosen to ensure economic and political stability in the country. And in fact, the majority of the people do not think that Xi is an authoritarian leader. Jack Ma's entry into the Chinese communist party is also a belief and appreciation of the reforms undertaken by Xi to reduce corruption and create good governance.

the country of China is indeed very great in any case China has all kinds of elements. I am also very impressed with the discipline of Chinese citizens. Although they are a very strong legal communist country, it is possible in terms of the key of Chinese citizens to comply with the discipline of the government.
China is a country that is very consistent. I was very surprised by the Chinese government that can regulate the public with discipline ...
they deserve to be called a developed and modern country

It is not already a surprise that China have been able to make a quick response on the issue of the covid-19 pandemic because we all know they have all that they need when it comes to resources and equipments needed to act fast to resolve the problem. Added by the fact that they have a very strict government that is managing the issue and making its people fully discipline to follow the rules and the plan they make to control the situation.

With both rich economy and strict governance plus the disciplined citizens, China have been able to come up into doing necessary actions to fight back against the covid-19 pandemic despite of the fact that their country is the starting point of this virus. China have just clearly shown how they make use of their rich economy and power from the leaders of their country to make control with the situation that many countries are still struggling to do.

I guess other countries can also do the same thing that China have done when it comes to management of the problem. What is just lacking for most of the country specially those who belong to the third world is the economic capacity they have to respond quickly on the needs of the people. I guess it is the main advantage that China have so they have successfully handle the situation with the virus. But still if the government and people will just coordinate with one another to come up into a better solution which will neglect complaints from both parties, we can still be able to manage dealing with this infectious disease.

it seems very difficult to imitate the style of Chinese government that is full of discipline. yes indeed the country of China is no doubt in any case such as business, the Chinese economy, it is worth giving a good value almost mastered the field. Chinese society is also very compact in terms of instructions instructed by the government. such as the current pandemic.

through this question China getting a lot of profits, beacuse they recover covid-19 firstly, and they start to sale the things relate to covid-19. from this they will more strong economy, but rest of all other countries will suffer a lot

First thing first, this is not a time to play blame game. I agree, virus origin was from China but still all countries should be mentally prepared as this kind of Pandemic not come for First time. History repeated itself and truth is that no one focused on that.
And yes I agree, China came out of this situation so fast because people there are disciplined and everyone can do the same.

They are a rule-abiding country, especially their citizens who are aware of the dangers of the virus. Supported by a country that is strong in the economic sector makes it look easier to handle their society. In many countries that are suppressing the spread of the virus, China has very good statistics, even though that country is just the beginning of this pandemic, and I think many countries can see Chinese confectionary methods to suppress the spread, which is adjusted according to the country's economic level.