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Everyday via TV citizens are reminded:
- Virus is just temporary
- Vaccine coming (it may not)
- V shaped recovery
- Deaths will be low
- Virus will magicly go away by easter  ::)
- might do another simulus check  ::)
- unemployment is low



The goal of these lies are to get people to keep spending and not sell 401k.
How long can keep the lies going, before people realize we're fucked

In the U.S. Trump and his administration made some serious mistakes with the pandemic. They downplayed it before it had even started affecting the country. And now some republicans argue that loss of revenue will cause more deaths than the pandemic itself... Well, last I checked US was a very wealthy country. If govt was more willing to allocate resources were needed people wouldn't need to die.

Currently I don't think anyone is lying about how serious the economic impact could be. The unemployment numbers are huge, many corporations already sought federal relief, and more are going to need it most likely too. EURUSD is volatile too but it seems like USD probably won't be establishing any dominance. In the long term the deaths and economic impact the US will face are probably greater.

Trump's administration focused on letting corporations survive in the short term. And likely won't let any notable corporations go bankrupt too. But federal aid to this extent is bound to devalue the currency and in turn make the buying power of every day people lower. In short, I don't see any imminent collapse of the world economy. Just a deeper crisis in the US and more corporatism in the federal budget instead of direct aid to address unemployment thanks to Trump. We'll see how well trickle down economics worked after an end of the year assessment comes around.

The downplaying of the virus is the lies. They keep acting like the virus would just last 2 weeks, and extended it by 2 weeks over and over. They continue to downplay the virus even holding mass gatherings of political rallies. The lies are still ongoing to fufill the agenda of dont sell your 401k and keep spending money cus everyhing is fine

Scientifically & Technically speaking . .


Yes it is temporary. Though the nature of virus mutating one then also we have resistance for the virus with Rapid Antibody Sequencing method. Virus will get more and more recognisable in the body and at some point natural antibodies will develop to fight against it.

It won't last forever. 


It is definitely coming. In my organization we have already worked out 5 technologies out of which 2 are underway for human trials latest by July End. Couldnt be happier than this! It's the fastest development of any vaccine that has been made in human history. Usually it takes multiple years to even enter into Phase 2 trials.


As soon as Vaccine will hit the market, and everyone is immunised with it, every damn corner of world will resume as before and it will boost economy (followed by recovery phase) giving out V shape. Sure it will.


Above points make this one clear. Vaccine!


No this won't happen without vaccine.


For the sake of recovery and keeping the businesses running this might come along the way.


This is the directly dependent to all the stuff above. Whether we successfully develop vaccine, rest the whole world to normal and create employment opportunities since work demand will rise once we are to the normal state.

most of these companies devloping vaccines are nothing but pump and dumps. They are trying to sell shares of stocks to anyone stupid enough to belive they have the vaccine coming.

For me that is not a lie, we just have to believe  as we are left with no choice.

Actually even if there's no cure for the virus, the economy will still live as people wants to go back working and doing their usual business.
If this new normal would take long, I think if we just follow all the protocol, I don't see we will be defeated by the virus.
This is a worldwide problem so everyone is thinking on how to solve the problem, so I don't believe that no vaccine will be discovered for the virus.

If our government is lying to us, and can't provide us the vaccine on the time frame they promise, then there's no reason to believe on the

Obviously. It's no secret the entire economy is built on consumer spending. If consumer confidence plunges (and there is every reason to believe it will if they predict doomsday instead) then we'll see another flight to cash and mega contraction in GDP.

In many ways it's a self fulfilling prophecy. Unrealistically optimistic projections and fudged unemployment numbers obviously help to slow down the bleeding. It keeps peoples' confidence up, keeps them spending and not hoarding, keeps them from panicking.


Are we actually fucked? Or is this recession just a lot worse than the White House is making it out to be?

The virus is still out there without knowing when it will end, and the media blow up the news by giving the number is for people to be careful when they are in the public area. We don't know if the government lies or not, but it is right that we need to concern with our health. I think we don't have to be suspicious of the lies or not because our health will be our concern, and we need to be careful to still healthy, whether if there is a virus out there or not. Perhaps, before the virus spreads, we forget to wash our hands after touching something, and the virus comes to remind us that health is essential to us, so we need to pay attention. It's about how we can take care of our health no matter if we are still in the pandemic or not.

Virus is not temporary it is going to stay just like common cold or HIV even years from now.

Vaccine will come for sure , there is no reason to believe that it might not , but it will come with some delay for sure .

V-shaped recovery is actually false , the government at many places are not letting citizens test , happened to my family , my cousin had all the symptoms but the doctor advised him to stay inside the house and just lock the gates.

Deaths will obviously be low since with time we are able to get a grip on the virus plus there are medicines which are out for the trial , I do think it will all be better in the near future.(but the virus is evolving)

That Easter thing was a stupid statement by Trump .

Then again he cannot do another stimulus check , there is not much left in the government funds and if they keep printing money , they will loose the same amount in the value affecting the economy.

Unemployment is in millions.. on the official website of the government it's stated 20-30 times lower than what the situation is.

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Never believe in statements given by Trump , he is the biggest threat to the American economy himself. Even the financial advisors believes so.

They are lying not to make sure that people don't sell , they are lying because:

 •They want to prevent problems with the general public if they really knew the situation , but at the same time they are threatening the protesters , even the stupid president himself is posting Tweets to identify protestors from BLM.

•They are trying to prove that the government did not fail :3 which it clearly did ( the queen should have done the needful while she had the chance )

I'd like to lean on those words that the covid19 is just temporary until a vaccine is made. Although, there is the reality that knocks that it may stay for good and could be in line with the other diseases and viruses that's staying up to now even if a vaccine will be made.

And even if this virus will be cured, there's now the possibility that haunts most of us that there could be another deadly virus widespread that shall appear soon. As for the media telling about the death rate is low, some news is countering that argument interviewing that there are people who died from other causes which have been added as a COVID patient.

For any government to dig a shithole and start covering the said hole with lies is deceit, the government had already planed this ahead of 2020, and they quite understand that her citizens will face the hard part of the pandemic. The only way to boost citizens moral is for them the government to continue with the damn lies. This won't stop until they are through with us, coronavirus has come to stay with us, the possibility of it disappear in short time is zero. They are depopulating the world which they have said some years back.

Government lying about the real status of the virus in their country or even manipulating the numbers (cases, recoveries and death)? I'm not surprised about doing such thing because sometimes lying serve as their last resort to keep their people sane and avoid the tendencies of people raging against them. Hmm, it's just like NASA not confirming the existence of aliens, CIA undergoing secret missions etc.

However, the effects of this pandemic on the economy cannot be hide. Citizens will definitely notice the bloating unemployment rate, overcrowded health facilities, hunger (like what's currently ha0pening in our country). The decrease in quality of life is pretty obvious.

As far as I remember there is already an Indian company which will release their vaccine very soon. The estimated time of its release is by the month of August. Correct me if I'm wrong but hoping this will happen for real :).

The government had panned what? Prolly only China and the world health organization knew about corona virus before 2020, in a world were there are few allies to a country and multiple other foes, how can you think it's possible they all unite for a cause in depopulating the world, at this cost and for what benefit?

This is because many governments are wondering what happens. They do not really understand that corona by design. If conspiracy theories are ruled out and assume pandemics by nature, in fact up to now there are no signs of a pandemic slowing down. Optimistic statements are intended to dispel public panic and slow chaos.


Until the country is completely out of ammunition. There are those who play the game to drain the power of the state and citizens by creating a "reign of terror" with an economic blow. When state ammunition runs out, the budget deficit gets bigger, debt cannot be done, wants to print money but does not have a practical framework, the choice is for the government to hand over power to people power. If a pandemic/disaster has touched the stomach and caused hunger, the end is anarchism.

One military observer who believes that covid-19 by design explains that the global elite already has a covid-19 vaccine, it's just not released with consideration, the longer the pandemic ends the greater their targets are achieved both materially and non materially. Many countries in the world are working 24 hours to find the vaccine, only if the vaccine is found later this year, it will take about 6 months to build production facilities and infrastructure and it is believed to be per country not global.

I think they are tying to downplay the corona crisis until elections in November, but this is still so far away. What if the numbers keep rising until autumn this year? Everyone can check the statistics themself, there is no point in believing the various TV news when there are statistics online available. It looks really bad at the moment.

Seriously anyone still believing these lies? The reality is virus may not go away from us in near future so some governments publicly announced that we should learn how to live with it.This pandemic makes everyone to realize that we are just another species not the superior of all the world. :)

We have to save us from this pandemic, social distancing is the only real weapon we have for now.

The real results of the pandemic is going to be visible at the start of 2021.
Right now we cannot understand what is happening as the condition is still ongoing.
We are going to face a real economic disaster and the results are going to be displayed on March 2021.

Depends on the news channel that your watching.

Some continue to tell that you the virus is temporary, the death rate isn't that high, and that infections don't mean that much b/c it's just young people who are getting it.

Others will talk about the rising infection rates, rising infections as a number of test (percentage), continuing to close is necessary, and so on and so forth.

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Government are not being transparent for the data they collecting regarding the positive cases of the pandemic. They downplaying the pandemic since most cases are asymptomatic and fatality is not high as of now. They reopen businesses in order to recover the economy.  Government need to balance the two of these. They need to reopen without sacrificing the health of the community. In my country, I think they need to implement again the protocol regarding the quarantine rules more strictly to minimize the people going outside their home. This will reduce the possibility of being infected. Improving the support for health workers, more PPE and additional health workers.

Come on - they aren't downplaying it. They are ramping up a fairly minor Corona virus to distract people from an economic reset.

Deaths are down, and they were never really high - just check the all causes mortality totals.

The vaccine they create will be designed to damage your immune system, and not to protect you from the virus.

Corona viruses will be around for a few more decades, and the sensible amongst us will have developed natural immunity. In fact many of us developed the memory T cells back in 2002/3.

There will be a "K" shaped recovery - the rich will get richer, and the poor will get poorer.

^^^ Great post! Take a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256897.msg54895052#msg54895052 to start filling the whole thing out. Sorry for no links. To prove it, a person will have to research many sites and understandings. There isn't room for all the research links, here. But watching this one will give you a great start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84lS19jqeg[b.

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If you ignore the media, it's as if the coronavirus isn't there... You're right that governments are deceiving us, because it's very profitable for someone! That's why you can never trust them! Neither is the media that are bought by the same governments!

Judy Mikovits, in her latest interview - EXCLUSIVE: The Hardest Hitting, Most Scathing & Blistering Raw Interview on Anthony Fauci at https://dcs.megaphone.fm/TPM9997896485.mp3?key=961e76f7f656c85dfdb6be6e1fe4186e - says that Trump is letting Fauci and the medical hang themselves. In other words, give them enough rope, and they will hang themselves.

Of course, what is Trump to do? Outside of a 30 or 60 day lockdown order, since there is nobody falling dead in the street around you, and since the statistics are all a lie, it's the will of the people that they lockdown or wear masks.

Government is not your baby-sitter, even if you want them to be. If you don't like it, stand up for yourself. I mean, I am not in favor of BLM. But they have way more guts than the average lilly-livered American.

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Anyway it is expected to see that the rich will become richer and the poor will become poorer because of the transition of wealth. The real reason why is that happenning because majority of the people have a poor mindset and mentality that leads them to be stuck in their ecnomic class system. The current pandemic will lead more suffering especially for the poorest of the poor while the upper class will see this as opportunities to make a lot of money.

^^^ In other words, Government will keep it up until the people do something about Government. BLM and Antifa think they are doing something like that.

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The governments have merely underestimated this pandemic on which they think that doing precautionary measures like implementing lockdowns can already be a big help to lessen or prevent the spread of virus. It is such a headache that at the first months of this quarantine the number of cases are just being reported to be low but as time passes by even with the existence of the community quarantine, the cases are keep rising. How come this have happened? It seems like the data presented nowadays are surprising all of us and the government keep on telling us that we can handle and control the situation somehow but obviously it is not. They are making us feel safe but on the reality we are already getting worried that maybe the data presented are not yet that clarified or maybe they are still hiding something just not to make panic on the part of their people.

I must be saying this because just last night, we have recorded the very first massive number of recoveries for the very first time. Indeed that was great to know but suspiciously, upon looking the data, the classifications to be stated as recovered includes the asymptomatic and mild symptoms. Is this a joke? Those are still vulnerable to carry out virus and releasing those individuals can lead to more cases of infected people. Maybe our government thought they can pamper us by luring the data just to say we are winning against this pandemic. But it is not. The last record made us more feel unsafe on going outside because of the threat on our health. I just hope that even cases are still high, government must remain true and let its people know the current status of the situation. We do not need calming words and data to pamper ourselves. What we need is the truth so that we can assure on our health safety.

^^^ The people are finding out the truth... that there is no Covid pandemic, but it is a pandemic of fear over nothing. So, governments and the medical have to start playing their game like things are changing.

I mean, if it came out in the mainstream news that this whole thing was faked, just think what people might start doing to governments and the medical leaders. So, the medical and governments are changing their talk, slowly, so people don't find out that it was all a scam as easily.

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sometimes news through TV media only makes people panic because it continues to provide information about the increasing number of victims affected by the corona virus, whether it is real or to warn everyone to be careful and maintain health protocols. I will not say whether the media only provides false information or public lies, but Corona virus does exist but the number of victims is fact or only data is manipulated, which is clearly the impact of the corona virus affects us all

as long as the goal is for more people to be careful and provide important education, naturally fantastic information is needed so that people are more respectful, but not with the aim of deceiving the reality.
sometimes to give effect to people more concerned with what is happening, it takes harder education so that they are more concerned to really pay attention that this is indeed real.

It must be acknowledged wherever the state is also experiencing difficulties if its citizens still do not follow established health protocols. because all awareness of every citizen is needed that this epidemic is not overlooked because the impact is clear. many medical personnel have tried to prevent transmission but their work will be in vain if there is still a very massive transmission in the community with visible positive corona presence that does not stop entering the hospital.

Good explanation if i would be asked.

To be honest, I do not think those things are meant to just cover the situation and also, just to push people not to sell at the said market value. Maybe it is not always about this "thing" that we are doing. I do think they are making a matter of white lies in order to avoid panic. Things are getting worse in other countries. Promises of such, might be meant to boost their hope but sad to say, how people react is the opposite of what other governments have expected. In some places, some people are confident due to these promises. While in some places, there are people who are questioning the situation but are still forced to continue their daily activities.

So many countries used the opportunity to get huge sum of money especially the leaders, the president, ministers, health and safety environment management boards, and many others to mention. This thing here is, covid 19 is seeming to be scammed as rumours airing out such, but that can be true. It's enough to have completed the vaccine production ketsbget back to normal, citizen residents dying, suffering but the government isn't doing anything about it. This is something eye opening, developing oneself for better future and stop being lied to by government.

So what we can do right now is to take care of our own selves and our family. Since we can't rely from the government all the time. We need to look out for ourselves. Look for options how to generate income, whether a small task or a big one. If you have space around your house, tend a small garden. We can even grow something hanging on our windows if we want to. Be realistic with the situation so your actions will be realistic also. Don't put blame on others, as it will just give you a stressful life.

Nobody is seeing people fall dead all around him. Nobody is seeing people die any differently than they do in other years. Every year people get sick from the flu. Every year somebody's relative dies from getting sick. The only difference this year is that it's different people dying than other years. But the overall death numbers are about the same as any other average year.

The best we can do is get outside, meet and hug people, play the mask game like it's a game, and get back to work. And if law enforcement tells you to wear a mask:
1. Greet them as the man/woman they are;
2. Inform them that it is not your wish to wear a mask, but...;
3. Is it an order to wear the mask?

If it is an order, invoice them for ordering you to do something, just like your boss at work might order you to do something, and then you get your paycheck.

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The supermarkets are being very nice to me at the moment, and two of them have even given me a free face mask, whilst not requiring me to wear it. Masks are annoying and inconvenient, but I wear one whilst in the supermarket as a courtesy to the supermarket. There is a legal requirement to wear them in shops in the UK, but nobody seems to be enforcing this, and many shoppers ignore the command.

In the USA in the area where I live, the guy at the door at Walmart was marking down on a pad, the number of people who are NOT wearing masks. Last week he was a bit cocky authoritative regarding the order to wear masks. This weak he was humble, letting me actually assist with operations at the door, even though I don't work there.

It has to do with statistics, and with the fact that the push by government is letting government see that the people can only be pushed so far.

Both here, and in the UK, if there is an unknown, like Covid was months ago, Government is required to take precautions for their people. But in both countries, when they find out that there is no need for such measures, they are required to let the people be free.

In the USA, the time that Government can regulate us under something like marshal law, is different for different States. But is probably at a 90-day max for a few areas, and 30-day max for most areas. Well, it's well over the 30-days, and there aren't any people falling dead around us on the street or in the store. So, government has to back off.

If government won't back off, people in both the USA and the UK have the ability to take government people to court for disturbing the peace in fake pandemics. Man-to-man is different than going to court against government.

In other words, if the British prime minister hits you with his car, you have the right to sue him in his non-government capacity. In the same way, if something he does messes with your freedom, you have the right to sue him over it.

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