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Title: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: BADecker on July 06, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
Same type of thing Del Bigtree shows us here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmEt0UjrnfQ.


Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use, Which Shows Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone 5 Seconds (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/286046-2020-07-06-ohio-rep-nino-vitale-tests-mask-use-which-shows-oxygen.htm)



In his video description, Vitale writes…

In a recent test, oxygen levels drop into the danger zone FIVE SECONDS after putting on a mask. Using the GX-2009 gas monitor, a test of 3 different masks shows oxygen levels drop below the minimum Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) approved 19.5% safe level in less than five seconds. You can watch the short video which shows 3 school children being tested for oxygen levels while wearing masks. Within 5 seconds, the alarm warned that oxygen had dropped below the safe level required. https://youtu.be/MxaY28cS5QQ Breathing in air with low oxygen can cause major health issues. OSHA's Respiratory Protection Standards state, "oxygen levels below 19.5% are an immediate danger to life or health." This is what so-called health experts, government officials and businesses are requiring employees, and soon, school children, to wear. What science did Acton, DeWine, Fauci and Husted use to try and mask an entire society? What testing did they do? What equipment did they use that we can vet and test for ourselves? Human beings must breathe oxygen to survive and begin to suffer adverse health effects when the oxygen level of their breathing air drops. These so-called experts who cannot even agree among themselves, are putting the health of citizens in danger and soon, the health and cognitive ability of our school children. "At concentrations of 16 to 19.5 percent, workers engaged in any form of exertion can rapidly become symptomatic as their tissues fail to obtain the oxygen necessary to function properly. Increased breathing rates, accelerated heartbeat, and impaired thinking or coordination occur more quickly in an oxygen-deficient environment," states the OSHA standards cited in the link below. The standards go further to clarify, 12 to 16 percent oxygen levels cause impaired attention, thinking, and coordination. Even in people who are resting. I do not trust ANY of these people to make decisions for my health and safety, nor the health and safety of our children. Do you? It is time to alert our local school boards and superintendents about the dangers our children will face if we require masks when they go back to school. And if you work for a company forcing you to wear a mask, show them this research and these links and citations. They are breaking OSHA health and safety protocols. They can order this unit for themselves and conduct their own test. DO NOT listen or trust these officials ever again. MORE LIBERTY LESS GOVERNMENT! Here is the video showing how quickly oxygen levels drop below safe when wearing a mask.


Nino Vitale Test Shows Oxygen Levels Drop into the DANGER ZONE FIVE SECONDS After Putting on a Mask
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ekFVJ2vo3nc/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLA0PGvy5ZlNda9sTH6qOfjqh8Dhhg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=ekFVJ2vo3nc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=ekFVJ2vo3nc)


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Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 07, 2020, 03:36:37 PM
 I use gas detection devices on a regular basis.  While we use a calibration gas to set up the device and test it for accuracy, we often field test the device's alarm response by breathing into it.   With normally functioning lungs, the exhaled air should have only around 18% O2 and CO2 levels around 4% of the total volume.  If they were detecting 20.9% O2 levels behind the mask, that would be cause for concern.  Whether intentional or unintentional what they are doing in these videos is very misleading.


 edit:  Why isn't Vitale maintaining 6 feet of distance between himself and the students?  That's unsafe.


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: TECSHARE on July 07, 2020, 03:51:36 PM
I use gas detection devices on a regular basis.  While we use a calibration gas to set up the device and test it for accuracy, we often field test the device's alarm response by breathing into it.   With normally functioning lungs, the exhaled air should have only around 18% O2 and CO2 levels around 4% of the total volume.  If they were detecting 20.9% O2 levels behind the mask, that would be cause for concern.  Whether intentional or unintentional what they are doing in these videos is very misleading.


 edit:  Why isn't Vitale maintaining 6 feet of distance between himself and the students?  That's unsafe.

Why is it misleading?


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 07, 2020, 04:33:50 PM
I use gas detection devices on a regular basis.  While we use a calibration gas to set up the device and test it for accuracy, we often field test the device's alarm response by breathing into it.   With normally functioning lungs, the exhaled air should have only around 18% O2 and CO2 levels around 4% of the total volume.  If they were detecting 20.9% O2 levels behind the mask, that would be cause for concern.  Whether intentional or unintentional what they are doing in these videos is very misleading.


 edit:  Why isn't Vitale maintaining 6 feet of distance between himself and the students?  That's unsafe.

Why is it misleading?

 Exhaled air is already in the "danger zone" - it has nothing to do with the mask.



Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: TECSHARE on July 07, 2020, 05:06:45 PM
Exhaled air is already in the "danger zone" - it has nothing to do with the mask.

You do have a reasonable argument to question the accuracy of the exact readings, however it is a fact that masks inhibit airflow and trap CO2. The only real question is how much. Would you agree a finger type oximeter would be a more accurate measure of the effect?


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: tvbcof on July 07, 2020, 05:30:59 PM
Exhaled air is already in the "danger zone" - it has nothing to do with the mask.

You do have a reasonable argument to question the accuracy of the exact readings, however it is a fact that masks inhibit airflow and trap CO2. The only real question is how much. Would you agree a finger type oximeter would be a more accurate measure of the effect?

Here's what I would argue if I were on the masktard side:

The volume within the mask is a fraction of the likely total breath intake volume thus, even with 100% 'scavenging' of the recycled air within the mask, the dilution with full oxygen air which is breathed in through the mask make it 'safe'.

I've yet to hear a masktard make that argument.  It's probably way to technical for them...especially since they are oxygen deficient.  They have a leg up in that anything they argue which is pro-establishment is automatically credible.  No need to bother with pesky (and 'hard') issues like mathematics, engineering, logic, etc.



Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: BADecker on July 07, 2020, 07:30:44 PM
Exhaled air is already in the "danger zone" - it has nothing to do with the mask.

You do have a reasonable argument to question the accuracy of the exact readings, however it is a fact that masks inhibit airflow and trap CO2. The only real question is how much. Would you agree a finger type oximeter would be a more accurate measure of the effect?

Here's what I would argue if I were on the masktard side:

The volume within the mask is a fraction of the likely total breath intake volume thus, even with 100% 'scavenging' of the recycled air within the mask, the dilution with full oxygen air which is breathed in through the mask make it 'safe'.

I've yet to hear a masktard make that argument.  It's probably way to technical for them...especially since they are oxygen deficient.  They have a leg up in that anything they argue which is pro-establishment is automatically credible.  No need to bother with pesky (and 'hard') issues like mathematics, engineering, logic, etc.



I wore a mask for the first time the other day. I took rapid, giant breaths to compensate. Worked okay, but it was a bit harder than normal breathing.

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Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 07, 2020, 08:27:58 PM
Exhaled air is already in the "danger zone" - it has nothing to do with the mask.

You do have a reasonable argument to question the accuracy of the exact readings, however it is a fact that masks inhibit airflow and trap CO2. The only real question is how much. Would you agree a finger type oximeter would be a more accurate measure of the effect?

 I agree that the mask will trap a small amount of the exhaled air which will be breathed in again and yes, I think measuring blood oxygen levels would be a more reliable experiment.



Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 07, 2020, 08:34:40 PM
Exhaled air is already in the "danger zone" - it has nothing to do with the mask.

You do have a reasonable argument to question the accuracy of the exact readings, however it is a fact that masks inhibit airflow and trap CO2. The only real question is how much. Would you agree a finger type oximeter would be a more accurate measure of the effect?

Here's what I would argue if I were on the masktard side:

The volume within the mask is a fraction of the likely total breath intake volume thus, even with 100% 'scavenging' of the recycled air within the mask, the dilution with full oxygen air which is breathed in through the mask make it 'safe'.

I've yet to hear a masktard make that argument.  It's probably way to technical for them...especially since they are oxygen deficient.  They have a leg up in that anything they argue which is pro-establishment is automatically credible.  No need to bother with pesky (and 'hard') issues like mathematics, engineering, logic, etc.



I wore a mask for the first time the other day. I took rapid, giant breaths to compensate. Worked okay, but it was a bit harder than normal breathing.

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 I wore a mask yesterday and today in temperatures around 95 °F and it was very uncomfortable.  I found myself pressing my lips into the mask to get a nice "fresh" breath of air more than once and I too take deeper breaths than normal.  Under normal circumstances, I don't even think about my breaths so there's certainly a difference.  I would love to see some results using the finger type oximeter that TECSHARE mentioned.



Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 07, 2020, 08:58:49 PM
I found a study from 2005 on the effects of wearing N95 and surgical masks.   The year is important because the study would be unaffected by the current political climate surrounding the use of masks.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7087880/

TL;DR

 "Therefore, it can be concluded that N95 and surgical facemasks can induce significantly different temperatures and humidity in the microclimates of facemasks, which have profound influences on heart rate and thermal stress and subjective perception of discomfort."


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: franky1 on July 07, 2020, 11:45:37 PM
children are not nor ever have been demanded to wear masks

in the UK its never even been a question.
adults are fine. doctors wear masks while doing surgury for hours and dont drop dead.

but children especially under 2yo are more susceptible

i think bigtree and his blind flock are trying to take a known fact that children shouldnt wear masks. nor ever told that they should..

and then make it seem like some government order has mandated kids wear masks. to the pretend they have created some campaign that proves kids shouldnt. and then when the reality is that kids never were demanded to wear masks.. bigtree and flock pretend they are the reason..

but the reality is
there was no mandated order in the first place. so bigtree and cultish flock are arguing over a situation that never happened. pretending that they are the reason it never happened

very bad try.

whats next:?
pretend that unicorns are actually in existance and on a killing spree against all humans. and all unicorns need to be culled into extinction..
... wait a few months...
and when someone says there are no unicorns alive today. bigtree+cult followers can pretend that they waged war and sent unicorns into extinction, and no human lives lost due to bigtree+cults campaign
(sounds like the kind of games them people play)



Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: TECSHARE on July 07, 2020, 11:58:00 PM
children are not nor ever have been demanded to wear masks

in the UK its never even been a question.
adults are fine. doctors wear masks while doing surgury for hours and dont drop dead.

but children especially under 2yo are more susceptible

i think bigtree and his blind flock are trying to take a known fact that children shouldnt wear masks. nor ever told that they should..

and then make it seem like some government order has mandated kids wear masks. to the pretend they have created some campaign that proves kids shouldnt. and then when the reality is that kids never were demanded to wear masks.. bigtree and flock pretend they are the reason..

but the reality is
there was no mandated order in the first place. so bigtree and cultish flock are arguing over a situation that never happened. pretending that they are the reason it never happened

very bad try.

whats next:?
pretend that unicorns are actually in existance and on a killing spree against all humans. and all unicorns need to be culled into extinction..
... wait a few months...
and when someone says there are no unicorns alive today. bigtree+cult followers can pretend that they waged war and sent unicorns into extinction, and no human lives lost due to bigtree+cults campaign
(sounds like the kind of games them people play)



You were saying?

"CDC says children should wear face coverings. Here's how to get them to do it."

https://www.today.com/parents/cdc-says-children-should-wear-masks-slow-covid-19-spread-t178005



"France mandates masks for schools and transport"

"Pupils aged 11-15 will be expected to wear face masks."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52459030



"Kids ages 2 and older should use face masks, CDC says. How to get them to wear one"

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/kids-ages-2-and-older-should-use-face-masks-cdc-says-how-to-get-them-to-wear-one/


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: franky1 on July 07, 2020, 11:59:07 PM
just to add
the red device the guy used was sensing the kids carbon dioxide exhales...

a proper test would be a blood/ox monitor that goes onto someones finger and shows the drop of oxygen the person has

.. but it was funny watching the stupid video thats not even describing what the device is actually measuring alarming to

ofcourse its going to beep pressed against the mouth when exhaling.
the mask is not making a difference. the device would still do it unmasked
PRESSED AGAINST THE MOUTH

funny how he avoids pressing it against his own mouth and holds it an inch or 2 away
.. too obvious

next time use a blood/ox monitor that goes on the finger. then it will show actual effects in the body of any oxygen starvation difference. no speculation then


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: BADecker on July 08, 2020, 12:04:10 AM

 edit:  Why isn't Vitale maintaining 6 feet of distance between himself and the students?  That's unsafe.


Right to travel. If the parents don't refuse freedom of travel for their kids, the kids have the right. Flows of the 1st Amendment.

Besides, it's not unsafe. Or prove it.

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Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: BADecker on July 08, 2020, 12:06:13 AM
children are not nor ever have been demanded to wear masks

in the UK its never even been a question.
adults are fine. doctors wear masks while doing surgery for hours and dont drop dead.

but children especially under 2yo are more susceptible


"Kids ages 2 and older should use face masks, CDC says. How to get them to wear one"

yep exactly

Property rights of the parents to make that judgment call. Or prove it is dangerous not wearing a mask.

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Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: franky1 on July 08, 2020, 12:09:01 AM

 edit:  Why isn't Vitale maintaining 6 feet of distance between himself and the students?  That's unsafe.


Right to travel. If the parents don't refuse freedom of travel for their kids, the kids have the right. Flows of the 1st Amendment.

Besides, it's not unsafe. Or prove it.

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is this lame freeman script your excuse to entice kids into your car,
'no comment mr police officer, these kids have a right to travel and so you cant question me about why i picked them up and carried them into the back of my white van'

as for distance
if someone is exhaling nasty bugs/particulates. or even bad breath. the further away you are the less it will affect you

next time you have someone with bad breath. stand right beside them and take a sniff,.. then stand 2 metres away and take another sniff.
the second one you will notice the fresher air


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: BADecker on July 08, 2020, 01:04:24 AM

 edit:  Why isn't Vitale maintaining 6 feet of distance between himself and the students?  That's unsafe.


Right to travel. If the parents don't refuse freedom of travel for their kids, the kids have the right. Flows of the 1st Amendment.

Besides, it's not unsafe. Or prove it.

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is this lame freeman script your excuse to entice kids into your car,
'no comment mr police officer, these kids have a right to travel and so you cant question me about why i picked them up and carried them into the back of my white van'

as for distance
if someone is exhaling nasty bugs/particulates. or even bad breath. the further away you are the less it will affect you

next time you have someone with bad breath. stand right beside them and take a sniff,.. then stand 2 metres away and take another sniff.
the second one you will notice the fresher air

It's difficult for me to read your posts, 'cause I can smell yours right through them.

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Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: tvbcof on July 08, 2020, 01:29:28 AM
children are not nor ever have been demanded to wear masks

in the UK its never even been a question.
adults are fine. doctors wear masks while doing surgery for hours and dont drop dead.

but children especially under 2yo are more susceptible


"Kids ages 2 and older should use face masks, CDC says. How to get them to wear one"

yep exactly

Here in my certain SE Asian island country my less-than-one-year-old was not allowed into SM Supermarket without a mask.  The rest of my family had to go back out to the car and wait for me to do the shopping.

Thankfully SE Asia has a cool dry climate so the masks are not uncomfortable in the least.  Everybody I can see is perfectly happy to take part in this Luciferian mask ritual as ordered by Bill and Melinda Gates and other sadistic creepers.



Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 08, 2020, 02:01:42 AM

 edit:  Why isn't Vitale maintaining 6 feet of distance between himself and the students?  That's unsafe.


Right to travel. If the parents don't refuse freedom of travel for their kids, the kids have the right. Flows of the 1st Amendment.

Besides, it's not unsafe. Or prove it.

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 I only bring up the point because this measure (like mask-wearing) is intended to prevent the spread of the novel corona virus.  They're seemingly oblivious to the distancing but they've really latched onto the mask like a pitbull.  Apparently, even something as simple as hand washing is lost on them as well since Ohio rep Vitale places the the same gas detection meter on the mouths of 3 different children students in quick succession handling it himself in between each without washing a hand, cleaning the device or batting an eye... not a good idea with respect to disease transmission.  Never mind corona virus but a host of other diseases (https://www.verywellhealth.com/stages-of-a-cold-sore-outbreak-4173005)!  Poor kids students.   

 So having dispatched every other preventative measure using the scientific method (I'm assuming here), they are poised to refute mask-wearing buy demonstrating that the mask is deadlier than covid-19. 

 It would be so much better had they just said "Fuck you! I wont do what you tell me! (https://youtu.be/2Hf-B9Tqkss)" but not in front of the kids students.  I could respect that.


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: BADecker on July 08, 2020, 02:54:37 AM

 edit:  Why isn't Vitale maintaining 6 feet of distance between himself and the students?  That's unsafe.


Right to travel. If the parents don't refuse freedom of travel for their kids, the kids have the right. Flows of the 1st Amendment.

Besides, it's not unsafe. Or prove it.

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 I only bring up the point because this measure (like mask-wearing) is intended to prevent the spread of the novel corona virus.  They're seemingly oblivious to the distancing but they've really latched onto the mask like a pitbull.  Apparently, even something as simple as hand washing is lost on them as well since Ohio rep Vitale places the the same gas detection meter on the mouths of 3 different children students in quick succession handling it himself in between each without washing a hand, cleaning the device or batting an eye... not a good idea with respect to disease transmission.  Never mind corona virus but a host of other diseases (https://www.verywellhealth.com/stages-of-a-cold-sore-outbreak-4173005)!  Poor kids students.  

 So having dispatched every other preventative measure using the scientific method (I'm assuming here), they are poised to refute mask-wearing buy demonstrating that the mask is deadlier than covid-19.  

 It would be so much better had they just said "Fuck you! I wont do what you tell me! (https://youtu.be/2Hf-B9Tqkss)" but not in front of the kids students.  I could respect that.


You are turning this into a breakup-of-America thing. Don't you realize how many kisses go between people all the time? And that is just here in America. What about the French and Italians who kiss each other on the cheek as a greeting?

What you are really saying is that all these trillions of kisses year after year have nullified all kinds of diseases. It's common herd immunity. Now the professionals are telling us to stop the herd immunity in favor of something that has never been tested except locally and temporarily... masks and distancing.

Don't you see? The guys at the top want us to lose our natural herd immunity, so that they can make us pay for their herd immunity that goes on and on to destroy the immune system. And the jokers in government innocently (or not so innocently) listen to them.

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Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 08, 2020, 04:03:01 AM

 edit:  Why isn't Vitale maintaining 6 feet of distance between himself and the students?  That's unsafe.


Right to travel. If the parents don't refuse freedom of travel for their kids, the kids have the right. Flows of the 1st Amendment.

Besides, it's not unsafe. Or prove it.

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 I only bring up the point because this measure (like mask-wearing) is intended to prevent the spread of the novel corona virus.  They're seemingly oblivious to the distancing but they've really latched onto the mask like a pitbull.  Apparently, even something as simple as hand washing is lost on them as well since Ohio rep Vitale places the the same gas detection meter on the mouths of 3 different children students in quick succession handling it himself in between each without washing a hand, cleaning the device or batting an eye... not a good idea with respect to disease transmission.  Never mind corona virus but a host of other diseases (https://www.verywellhealth.com/stages-of-a-cold-sore-outbreak-4173005)!  Poor kids students.  

 So having dispatched every other preventative measure using the scientific method (I'm assuming here), they are poised to refute mask-wearing buy demonstrating that the mask is deadlier than covid-19.  

 It would be so much better had they just said "Fuck you! I wont do what you tell me! (https://youtu.be/2Hf-B9Tqkss)" but not in front of the kids students.  I could respect that.


You are turning this into a breakup-of-America thing. Don't you realize how many kisses go between people all the time? And that is just here in America. What about the French and Italians who kiss each other on the cheek as a greeting?

What you are really saying is that all these trillions of kisses year after year have nullified all kinds of diseases. It's common herd immunity. Now the professionals are telling us to stop the herd immunity in favor of something that has never been tested except locally and temporarily... masks and distancing.

Don't you see? The guys at the top want us to lose our natural herd immunity, so that they can make us pay for their herd immunity that goes on and on to destroy the immune system. And the jokers in government innocently (or not so innocently) listen to them.

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 I have no desire to turn this into a breakup-of-America thing as I have family there on both sides of the political spectrum.  Vitale happens to be R but I'm sure there are D's against wearing a mask as well.  I'm pretty sure the resistance to wearing a mask is much more deeply rooted in psychology than in politics (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-do-so-many-americans-refuse-to-wear-face-masks-it-may-have-nothing-to-do-with-politics-2020-06-16).  People are afraid they are losing their freedoms.
 
 You have to be really careful with that cheek-kissing thing.  It's generally right cheek first but not in Italy; they go left first!  Guess what happens when one person isn't from Italy...yep! Right on the lips.  Then you've got problems.  Those Italians (https://youtu.be/TeRDHjD7wUg)!  Anything for a kiss.  Most of the time, you don't actually kiss the cheeks - you just make kissy noises while touching cheeks together.  We do this in Romania as well.  No saliva is exchanged but no 6 feet two meters between us either.

 I don't believe a few months of mask wearing is going to have an impact on herd immunity.  Caution is needed until we understand this virus a little better.  While they are working on a vaccine, scientist are still not certain a vaccine will be effective for this particular virus.  Studies are showing that antibodies are not present (https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/asymptomatic-covid-19-1.5629172) shortly after recovery.  Maybe next month we'll be having covid parties for herd immunity - based on the latest scientific findings of course.

 I'm going to have to look into this purchased immunity.  There are many people who would sell their mother to make a buck and we certainly have a good number of corrupt politicians everywhere.  


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: tvbcof on July 08, 2020, 08:31:46 AM
children are not nor ever have been demanded to wear masks

in the UK its never even been a question.
adults are fine. doctors wear masks while doing surgery for hours and dont drop dead.

but children especially under 2yo are more susceptible


"Kids ages 2 and older should use face masks, CDC says. How to get them to wear one"

yep exactly

Yep, exactly. You are a moron.

He's not exactly a 'moron'.  You just need to understand the philosophy.  Kill a kid off early and they don't have as big of a 'carbon footprint'.

A kid is, to these Luciferian types, either a potentially useful tool if they are allowed to get older, or a play-toy to be enjoyed before they are flushed.  If neither of the above, they are immediately disposable.

Human parents often have protective instincts which complicate operations for the Luciferians so one thing you find in societies where the Luciferians have taken over (e.g., communist political system) are efforts to get parents out of the picture and have 'the state' (meaning aligned creepers) take over.  That is why the observation about communists: "They always come for the kids eventually."



Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: BADecker on July 08, 2020, 05:10:00 PM
Now that we know that masks are dangerous, what are we going to do about it? Here's what.

1. Get the written order from the mayor or the governor, which requires you to wear a mask;
2. Send the governor/mayor an invoice to the tune of $250,000 (plus 6% per month on the unpaid balance, plus court and other costs for collecting if necessary, and it goes to $1,000 per hour additional over 90 days in arrears... the 6% interest still included) so that he/she won't be in violation of his/her Oath of Office against the 13th Amendment, no involuntary servitude;
3. Include in the invoice that you had not been given the choice to volunteer out from under the order.


CONFIRMED! The Absolute SCIENCE Behind MASKS And The PROOF THAT THEY DON'T WORK with Denis Ranco (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/286161-2020-07-08-confirmed-the-absolute-science-behind-masks-and-the-proof-that.htm)



Wearing a mask may soon be mandatory depending on where you live and this is causing a debate about whether or not masks are actually effective when it comes to protecting your health during a pandemic. Multiple studies have now concluded that masks are not only ineffective but they in fact offer a disadvantage to those who choose to wear them. In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth speaks with Denis Rancourt a PHD and former professor of physics at the University of Ottawa about a paper he wrote titled "Masks Don't Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy" to discuss the science behind masks, why they don't work and how society should handle this highly contentious issue moving forward.


CONFIRMED! The Absolute SCIENCE Behind MASKS And The PROOF THAT THEY DON’T WORK with Denis Rancourt!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cVfNfB6dbzQ/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLDYlvaIH12o_DREYeAhqQ69_qT5vg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHq1ixEYhQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHq1ixEYhQ)


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Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 09, 2020, 12:26:09 AM
Now that we know that masks are dangerous, what are we going to do about it? Here's what.

1. Get the written order from the mayor or the governor, which requires you to wear a mask;
2. Send the governor/mayor an invoice to the tune of $250,000 (plus 6% per month on the unpaid balance, plus court and other costs for collecting if necessary, and it goes to $1,000 per hour additional over 90 days in arrears... the 6% interest still included) so that he/she won't be in violation of his/her Oath of Office against the 13th Amendment, no involuntary servitude;
3. Include in the invoice that you had not been given the choice to volunteer out from under the order.


CONFIRMED! The Absolute SCIENCE Behind MASKS And The PROOF THAT THEY DON'T WORK with Denis Ranco (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/286161-2020-07-08-confirmed-the-absolute-science-behind-masks-and-the-proof-that.htm)



Wearing a mask may soon be mandatory depending on where you live and this is causing a debate about whether or not masks are actually effective when it comes to protecting your health during a pandemic. Multiple studies have now concluded that masks are not only ineffective but they in fact offer a disadvantage to those who choose to wear them. In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth speaks with Denis Rancourt a PHD and former professor of physics at the University of Ottawa about a paper he wrote titled "Masks Don't Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy" to discuss the science behind masks, why they don't work and how society should handle this highly contentious issue moving forward.


CONFIRMED! The Absolute SCIENCE Behind MASKS And The PROOF THAT THEY DON’T WORK with Denis Rancourt!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cVfNfB6dbzQ/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLDYlvaIH12o_DREYeAhqQ69_qT5vg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHq1ixEYhQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHq1ixEYhQ)


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 Confirmed?!

   We're going to see mask-burning demonstrations before this is over but I would not put all of my eggs into the basket woven by one obscure individual.  Granted, with a PhD in his background, he can probably weave an elaborate basket.  Rather than some Joe Who from Canada that can't hold his tenure, let's hear from a scientist in China (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/not-wearing-masks-protect-against-coronavirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says) on the front lines of Covid-19 who has a Ph.D. in biochemistry from Oxford and post-doctorate studies at Oxford and Harvard universities specializing in immunology and virology.

    Now what?


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: BADecker on July 09, 2020, 01:04:26 AM
Now that we know that masks are dangerous, what are we going to do about it? Here's what.

1. Get the written order from the mayor or the governor, which requires you to wear a mask;
2. Send the governor/mayor an invoice to the tune of $250,000 (plus 6% per month on the unpaid balance, plus court and other costs for collecting if necessary, and it goes to $1,000 per hour additional over 90 days in arrears... the 6% interest still included) so that he/she won't be in violation of his/her Oath of Office against the 13th Amendment, no involuntary servitude;
3. Include in the invoice that you had not been given the choice to volunteer out from under the order.


CONFIRMED! The Absolute SCIENCE Behind MASKS And The PROOF THAT THEY DON'T WORK with Denis Ranco (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/286161-2020-07-08-confirmed-the-absolute-science-behind-masks-and-the-proof-that.htm)



Wearing a mask may soon be mandatory depending on where you live and this is causing a debate about whether or not masks are actually effective when it comes to protecting your health during a pandemic. Multiple studies have now concluded that masks are not only ineffective but they in fact offer a disadvantage to those who choose to wear them. In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth speaks with Denis Rancourt a PHD and former professor of physics at the University of Ottawa about a paper he wrote titled "Masks Don't Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy" to discuss the science behind masks, why they don't work and how society should handle this highly contentious issue moving forward.


CONFIRMED! The Absolute SCIENCE Behind MASKS And The PROOF THAT THEY DON’T WORK with Denis Rancourt!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cVfNfB6dbzQ/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLDYlvaIH12o_DREYeAhqQ69_qT5vg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHq1ixEYhQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHq1ixEYhQ)


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 Confirmed?!

   We're going to see mask-burning demonstrations before this is over but I would not put all of my eggs into the basket woven by one obscure individual.  Granted, with a PhD in his background, he can probably weave an elaborate basket.  Rather than some Joe Who from Canada that can't hold his tenure, let's hear from a scientist in China (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/not-wearing-masks-protect-against-coronavirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says) on the front lines of Covid-19 who has a Ph.D. in biochemistry from Oxford and post-doctorate studies at Oxford and Harvard universities specializing in immunology and virology.

    Now what?


Where in the world have you been hiding?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/TonyRobbinsLive/videos

Loads of videos with similar talk from loads of science professionals, etc.

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Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 09, 2020, 03:23:34 AM
Now that we know that masks are dangerous, what are we going to do about it? Here's what.

1. Get the written order from the mayor or the governor, which requires you to wear a mask;
2. Send the governor/mayor an invoice to the tune of $250,000 (plus 6% per month on the unpaid balance, plus court and other costs for collecting if necessary, and it goes to $1,000 per hour additional over 90 days in arrears... the 6% interest still included) so that he/she won't be in violation of his/her Oath of Office against the 13th Amendment, no involuntary servitude;
3. Include in the invoice that you had not been given the choice to volunteer out from under the order.


CONFIRMED! The Absolute SCIENCE Behind MASKS And The PROOF THAT THEY DON'T WORK with Denis Ranco (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/286161-2020-07-08-confirmed-the-absolute-science-behind-masks-and-the-proof-that.htm)



Wearing a mask may soon be mandatory depending on where you live and this is causing a debate about whether or not masks are actually effective when it comes to protecting your health during a pandemic. Multiple studies have now concluded that masks are not only ineffective but they in fact offer a disadvantage to those who choose to wear them. In this video Dan Dicks of Press For Truth speaks with Denis Rancourt a PHD and former professor of physics at the University of Ottawa about a paper he wrote titled "Masks Don't Work: A Review of Science Relevant to COVID-19 Social Policy" to discuss the science behind masks, why they don't work and how society should handle this highly contentious issue moving forward.


CONFIRMED! The Absolute SCIENCE Behind MASKS And The PROOF THAT THEY DON’T WORK with Denis Rancourt!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cVfNfB6dbzQ/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLDYlvaIH12o_DREYeAhqQ69_qT5vg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHq1ixEYhQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKHq1ixEYhQ)


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 Confirmed?!

   We're going to see mask-burning demonstrations before this is over but I would not put all of my eggs into the basket woven by one obscure individual.  Granted, with a PhD in his background, he can probably weave an elaborate basket.  Rather than some Joe Who from Canada that can't hold his tenure, let's hear from a scientist in China (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/not-wearing-masks-protect-against-coronavirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says) on the front lines of Covid-19 who has a Ph.D. in biochemistry from Oxford and post-doctorate studies at Oxford and Harvard universities specializing in immunology and virology.

    Now what?


Where in the world have you been hiding?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/TonyRobbinsLive/videos

Loads of videos with similar talk from loads of science professionals, etc.

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 I guess I've been working.  I never did get to do that "work from home" thing though I'm not complaining - many lost their jobs.
Seems like I'm about to go down the rabbit hole now!  Wish me luck.


Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: tvbcof on July 09, 2020, 06:15:08 AM
...
    Now what?


Now that pretty much everyone who is intellectually capable recognizes that 'covid-19' was a scam and thus is primed to let their guard down, it's time to release the real one.

When these two people are trying to tell you something, you should listen:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmP6_gy-MIE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmP6_gy-MIE)

I would be heading for the hills for the next one except for two issues:  1) it will likely be spread widely before there is any warning, and 2) it could easily be just as prevalent in 'the hills' as in every other place on earth.  Maybe 'solar radiation management' (another Gates funded operation) is why all RT-PCR's whether on human, goat, or papaya, can be made to come up positive for 'covid-19' by adding a few more cycles?

With luck the 'next one' will be distributed via vaccine.  If they can get the uptake rate into the 95% range then maybe they'll leave the rest of us alone, but I'm not counting on it.



Title: Re: Ohio Rep. Nino Vitale Tests Mask Use... Oxygen Levels Drop Into Danger Zone
Post by: BADecker on July 09, 2020, 05:53:24 PM
^^^ The next one isn't necessarily going to be a virus or similar. It could easily be REAL war with China, of 5G in a powerful form, or even a real government coup with government officials united in this coup against the people... or even a collapse of the money system, etc. But it could be Satan back up from the Abyss (the grave) for real.

Better than the hills, is the hills with an educated group with you.

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