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Title: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: alani123 on July 10, 2020, 01:32:42 AM WixiPlay.io back in December 2019 received valid accusations of running a rigged "provable fairness" system. Thread:
Wixiplay.io is rigged | one in ten million session | fake PF (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211370.0) Also, it was documented that hashes weren't matching with results: https://youtu.be/8OXjKcheAug?t=526 8:50 timestamp The account wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2507491) had received two DT negative trust ratings. It's likely that they made a new account to promote their services without the negative trust appearing. New account: WixiPlaySupport (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2821089) I'm not sure if the standard of provable fairness has been improved on the site. Seems like it hasn't though. IMO DT members should at least give neutral trust to the new account until someone checks on the fairness of the site. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Little Mouse on July 10, 2020, 02:05:52 AM I see only one DT tag on the previous account, from RHavar but there were a lot of people discussing that issue. I have no idea if the tag is correct since I do not have sufficient knowledge on the issue.
If you think they deserve a tag from the reference link event, you should tag them before anyone else do. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: The Cryptovator on July 10, 2020, 06:33:26 AM Seems 'WixiPlaySupport' already tagged by Coin_trader. However I left a neutral feedback for the record. I am not gambling expert and I can't just about their arguments that's why I didn't even left negative feedback to their official account 'WixiPlay'. For WixiPlay only one feedback is reflecting to me by default, so whoever expert on gambling and understand their arguments about provably fair they could add more feedback. Its seems they are evading (http://archive.is/TALgG) ban.
Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: LoyceV on July 10, 2020, 08:08:28 AM I see only one DT tag on the previous account, from RHavar but there were a lot of people discussing that issue. I have no idea if the tag is correct since I do not have sufficient knowledge on the issue. I consider RHavar very knowledgeable when it comes to provablye fair systems, and I trust him when he says this:They can actually check if you're going through the impractical ceremony on not! I verified this by checking the network requests, and AFAICT the only way to view the server-seed hash is via a network request to "/ajax/modal" with "modal=fairness". So this means they can actually if you're verifying the bets or not. So they could trivially cheat only when they know you won't be able to tell (when you never requested the server-seed hash). Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: alani123 on July 11, 2020, 04:18:19 AM Seems 'WixiPlaySupport' already tagged by Coin_trader. However I left a neutral feedback for the record. I am not gambling expert and I can't just about their arguments that's why I didn't even left negative feedback to their official account 'WixiPlay'. For WixiPlay only one feedback is reflecting to me by default, so whoever expert on gambling and understand their arguments about provably fair they could add more feedback. Its seems they are evading (http://archive.is/TALgG) ban. I think their previous account was unbanned before they posted. At least as per the last post of DT user Coin_trader in the casino's new thread. EDIT: Still a very odd choice. And they bought copper on both their accounts too. It seems that Wixiplay is not ban anymore. I already revised my rating and willing to remove it once they prove that the casino was cheat free. My only logical explanation is that they were trying to evade the bad ratings. And it seems the Provable fairness system is also not fixed yet. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: alani123 on July 16, 2020, 07:08:59 PM Interesting to see that wikipay started a waggering contest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261049.msg54799321#msg54799321) while the provable fairness system in their website still seems to be changing server seeds with every roll... And moreover they admitted that their programmers are working on a supposed complete overhaul of the system that they said will fix what they were accused of...
Our dev team is working on the pf system once again, it will be completely changed, so we can end this problem once and for all. Seems like holding a competition to see people wagering more was a priority to actually having the problems fixed.Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: WixiPlaySupport on July 19, 2020, 04:31:06 PM WixiPlay.io back in December 2019 received valid accusations of running a rigged "provable fairness" system. Thread: Wixiplay.io is rigged | one in ten million session | fake PF (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211370.0) Also, it was documented that hashes weren't matching with results: https://youtu.be/8OXjKcheAug?t=526 8:50 timestamp The account wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2507491) had received two DT negative trust ratings. It's likely that they made a new account to promote their services without the negative trust appearing. New account: WixiPlaySupport (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2821089) I'm not sure if the standard of provable fairness has been improved on the site. Seems like it hasn't though. IMO DT members should at least give neutral trust to the new account until someone checks on the fairness of the site. NEW PROVABLY FAIR SYSTEM We just updated our provably fair system. The server seed does not change anymore, it will change only if you press the "Change Pair" button. This provably fair system was inspired from primedice. Check it out: https://wixiplay.io/dice https://i.ibb.co/FgVMPpn/pf1.png (https://wixiplay.io/dice) Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: alani123 on July 19, 2020, 06:53:10 PM I am glad to see there was effort put into improving the system for rpovable fairness on the site.
I will look into it and consider revising my rating accordingly. In my view a second chance to avoid stigma should be afforde dto be ventures in the space. Hopefully things stay fair under the new wsstem. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: RHavar on July 19, 2020, 07:13:08 PM I am glad to see there was effort put into improving the system for rpovable fairness on the site. I will look into it and consider revising my rating accordingly. In my view a second chance to avoid stigma should be afforde dto be ventures in the space. Hopefully things stay fair under the new wsstem. They don't really deserve a second chance, and it doesn't address the fundamental problem. They were openly scamming people, and most likely still are (just yesterday someone reported getting 84 losses in a row when trying to get 2x, which is for all intents and purposes impossible (1 in 0.505^84) if the site was legitimate. FWIW I don't even think they implemented the new provably fair system properly -- but I really don't want to waste any more of my time on a thinly veiled scam. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: WixiPlaySupport on July 19, 2020, 10:11:28 PM I am glad to see there was effort put into improving the system for rpovable fairness on the site. I will look into it and consider revising my rating accordingly. In my view a second chance to avoid stigma should be afforde dto be ventures in the space. Hopefully things stay fair under the new wsstem. They don't really deserve a second chance, and it doesn't address the fundamental problem. They were openly scamming people, and most likely still are (just yesterday someone reported getting 84 losses in a row when trying to get 2x, which is for all intents and purposes impossible (1 in 0.505^84) if the site was legitimate. FWIW I don't even think they implemented the new provably fair system properly -- but I really don't want to waste any more of my time on a thinly veiled scam. Regarding that problem, there was a bug on wixicoin, everyone had it, it was a problem from our end( wixicoin it's a non non valuable coin) You can verify the pf system here: https://www.diceroll.xyz/wixiplay The PF system is working 100% and the server seed does not change anymore. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: RHavar on July 20, 2020, 02:20:40 AM The PF system is working 100% and the server seed does not change anymore. Well, ignoring my earlier concerns -- it's not. Your system is asking people to commit to a client seed before you commit to a server-seed. You can get max 10 loses in a row on 1.10x, the last one having a 0.00000001% chance to hit. Stuff like this just makes me wonder if you have no idea what you're talking about, malicious, or both. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: alani123 on July 20, 2020, 04:19:36 AM The PF system is working 100% and the server seed does not change anymore. Well, ignoring my earlier concerns -- it's not. Your system is asking people to commit to a client seed before you commit to a server-seed. They were openly scamming people, and most likely still are (just yesterday someone reported getting 84 losses in a row when trying to get 2x, which is for all intents and purposes impossible (1 in 0.505^84) if the site was legitimate. Anyone have a link to this thread? It's fitting to have it here too IMO. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: WixiPlaySupport on July 20, 2020, 12:29:24 PM The PF system is working 100% and the server seed does not change anymore. Well, ignoring my earlier concerns -- it's not. Your system is asking people to commit to a client seed before you commit to a server-seed. You can get max 10 loses in a row on 1.10x, the last one having a 0.00000001% chance to hit. Stuff like this just makes me wonder if you have no idea what you're talking about, malicious, or both. I think you have something personal with us, you said you don't want to waste your time anymore with us, but you still made a new negative trust feedback and you are refusing to take them down. The system was inspired from primedice, does that mean they are not pf? How much do you get for making those defamation posts about us? Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: LoyceV on July 20, 2020, 12:57:53 PM I think you have something personal with us, you said you don't want to waste your time anymore with us, but you still made a new negative trust feedback and you are refusing to take them down. You've been proven wrong before, and you can't expect someone to keep wasting time when you try your next scheme.Quote The system was inspired from primedice, does that mean they are not pf? I don't think Primedice does this:Your system is asking people to commit to a client seed before you commit to a server-seed. How much do you get for making those defamation posts about us? I'm pretty sure RHavar doesn't need any money, can't be bribed (or at least not by amounts available to mortals), and he's not the one who makes you look bad. You do.You can get max 10 loses in a row on 1.10x, the last one having a 0.00000001% chance to hit. Stuff like this just makes me wonder if you have no idea what you're talking about, malicious, or both.Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: actmyname on July 20, 2020, 02:43:48 PM I only came from this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263037.0) regarding WixiPlay, but I already made several observations about the casino before and after their 'provably fair' changes.
I can vouch for the mismatch between server seeds reported and the server seeds of the bets before their nonce change. This already makes it a full-on scam. To then change the provable fairness to include nonces would have been great, had they provided the server seed hash prior to generation. Trying to say that this type of fairness verification is legitimate is like trying to pass off a fake signature with a Sartre quote. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: WixiPlaySupport on July 22, 2020, 10:44:34 PM UPDATE ON THE PROVABLY FAIR SYSTEM
We updated the new provably fair system, now you can see the next server seed (hashed) . Check it out: https://wixiplay.io Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on July 23, 2020, 07:55:19 AM I only came from this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263037.0) regarding WixiPlay, but I already made several observations about the casino before and after their 'provably fair' changes. I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair :)I can vouch for the mismatch between server seeds reported and the server seeds of the bets before their nonce change. This already makes it a full-on scam. To then change the provable fairness to include nonces would have been great, had they provided the server seed hash prior to generation. Trying to say that this type of fairness verification is legitimate is like trying to pass off a fake signature with a Sartre quote. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: LoyceV on July 23, 2020, 08:13:43 AM I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair :) Or they switch to selective scamming. I wouldn't trust them.Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on July 23, 2020, 08:27:24 AM I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair :) Or they switch to selective scamming. I wouldn't trust them.Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: actmyname on July 23, 2020, 08:35:40 AM I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair :) Does everyone deserve a fourth chance? To extrapolate from one event a user's character would be a very unreliable system of conclusions. However, to get provably fair gambling wrong so many times without consulting anyone (because otherwise, this would have been resolved immediately), I consider that enough fodder to raise some serious concerns about the administration of the casino.Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on July 23, 2020, 08:37:47 AM I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair :) Does everyone deserve a fourth chance? To extrapolate from one event a user's character would be a very unreliable system of conclusions. However, to get provably fair gambling wrong so many times without consulting anyone (because otherwise, this would have been resolved immediately), I consider that enough fodder to raise some serious concerns about the administration of the casino.Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: rhomelmabini on July 23, 2020, 08:52:22 AM I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair :) Well, that's because they have been criticized many times on how not fair their system works. How come you have been an avid supporter of this site, if I may ask? You only post right now from your sleep for almost 3 years of inactivity and I may assume that in the past 3 days (since that's the one you mentioned on the other thread about their updation of their system) you only just played on the wixiplay site, am I right? To be honest, it's doubtful.If they have to prove themselves that should have been a long time ago so they shouldn't have to worry of what it is now. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on July 23, 2020, 09:00:58 AM I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair :) Well, that's because they have been criticized many times on how not fair their system works. How come you have been an avid supporter of this site, if I may ask? You only post right now from your sleep for almost 3 years of inactivity and I may assume that in the past 3 days (since that's the one you mentioned on the other thread about their updation of their system) you only just played on the wixiplay site, am I right? To be honest, it's doubtful.If they have to prove themselves that should have been a long time ago so they shouldn't have to worry of what it is now. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: LoyceV on July 23, 2020, 09:22:37 AM that is what a legendry guy can do on btctalk You don't need to be Legendary to show common sense.Quote if they are trying to prove themself you should help too don't be rude bro :) Scamming users is the rude part, warning users is a good thing. But hey, feel free to deposit your own Bitcoins to any of the many scamming websites out there.they are doing everything to prove themselve :) This proves everything indeed:You can get max 10 loses in a row on 1.10x, the last one having a 0.00000001% chance to hit. bro they are updating things as players say :) So you're saying they're just incompetent and that's why they made a fake "provably" fair system?Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: rhomelmabini on July 23, 2020, 09:56:56 AM oh yeah inactivity i dont use btctalk much but sometimes i used to watch the post some days ago i go to wixi play and found people are just criticize them , so i think to post when everything is okay 🙂 its not even 3 days i just post yesterday and i will be again inactive anyway i m just a newbie and you are legendry power to do many things on btctalk forum and i m not a die heart fan of wixiplay 🙂 Correction, I'm not a Legendary I'm just a Senior Member, how I wish I could but it's not that easy and if it's just about rank you don't have to be so concerned about it, they are not that of monster you think it was. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: alani123 on July 23, 2020, 11:18:33 AM Ramdev, you wake up with this account from a three year hiatus and only show up to defend a casino accused of a rigged provably fair system? Why?
It's quite suspicious an account like yours would wake up only to defend a casino. Seems like a shill. Do you have a connection with wixiplay? If so, disclose it. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: WixiPlaySupport on July 24, 2020, 08:47:05 AM If you have any problems with the pf system, feel free to contact us :)
https://wixiplay.io Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on July 24, 2020, 05:20:04 PM Ramdev, you wake up with this account from a three year hiatus and only show up to defend a casino accused of a rigged provably fair system? Why? heyy bro so what if i wake up after 3 years and if i have any connection with wixi i should not have problem to disclose it. If you all are doing criticize wixi Cannot a newbie defend them ? 🙂 I am still saying that please try once again to underatand their hardworkIt's quite suspicious an account like yours would wake up only to defend a casino. Seems like a shill. Do you have a connection with wixiplay? If so, disclose it. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on July 24, 2020, 05:22:28 PM that is what a legendry guy can do on btctalk You don't need to be Legendary to show common sense.Quote if they are trying to prove themself you should help too don't be rude bro :) Scamming users is the rude part, warning users is a good thing. But hey, feel free to deposit your own Bitcoins to any of the many scamming websites out there.they are doing everything to prove themselve :) This proves everything indeed:You can get max 10 loses in a row on 1.10x, the last one having a 0.00000001% chance to hit. bro they are updating things as players say :) So you're saying they're just incompetent and that's why they made a fake "provably" fair system?Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: wixiplay on July 29, 2020, 11:32:58 PM I login just to clarify some things and it seems normal to write on this thread. I'm the admin of WixiPlay.io, WixiplaySupport is someone from the WixiPlay.io Support Team.
Wixiplay - I am (owner) WixiPlaySupport - Support team which is not me! This is the last time I log in to this account and I want all to be clarified. I did NOT try to make any ban evasion, even when you accused of "ban evasion" the ban time had expired. I could have reopened the topic at the time when WixiplaySupport was created. My account was banned because I organized a Giveaway in the wrong section, I assume this mistake. I would also like to specify that the old system was made by a developer who no longer works for WixiPlay.io. I had no intention of being wrong and I didn't know how the system was made, I'm not a developer. Unfortunately, I don't have that much time to deal with everything that WixiPlay means. I am currently working on other projects. Also, as the support team said, the provably fair system has been changed, all old bets can be checked. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on July 30, 2020, 10:30:42 AM I login just to clarify some things and it seems normal to write on this thread. I'm the admin of WixiPlay.io, WixiplaySupport is someone from the WixiPlay.io Support Team. i appricate your hard work :)Wixiplay - I am (owner) WixiPlaySupport - Support team which is not me! This is the last time I log in to this account and I want all to be clarified. I did NOT try to make any ban evasion, even when you accused of "ban evasion" the ban time had expired. I could have reopened the topic at the time when WixiplaySupport was created. My account was banned because I organized a Giveaway in the wrong section, I assume this mistake. I would also like to specify that the old system was made by a developer who no longer works for WixiPlay.io. I had no intention of being wrong and I didn't know how the system was made, I'm not a developer. Unfortunately, I don't have that much time to deal with everything that WixiPlay means. I am currently working on other projects. Also, as the support team said, the provably fair system has been changed, all old bets can be checked. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on August 02, 2020, 01:23:51 PM I found that lot of players are complaning again about casino even their dev from dev team was saying its a scam and rigged site :( feel bad for players and i am sorry to support such as scam casino they are not paying to players
Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: wixiplay on August 02, 2020, 02:02:56 PM I found that lot of players are complaning again about casino even their dev from dev team was saying its a scam and rigged site :( feel bad for players and i am sorry to support such as scam casino they are not paying to players why you don't say who you are dear Axxton ex-Moderator of WixiPlay ? Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on August 03, 2020, 01:32:03 PM I found that lot of players are complaning again about casino even their dev from dev team was saying its a scam and rigged site :( feel bad for players and i am sorry to support such as scam casino they are not paying to players why you don't say who you are dear Axxton ex-Moderator of WixiPlay ? Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: alani123 on August 03, 2020, 09:34:52 PM I found that lot of players are complaning again about casino even their dev from dev team was saying its a scam and rigged site :( feel bad for players and i am sorry to support such as scam casino they are not paying to players why you don't say who you are dear Axxton ex-Moderator of WixiPlay ? Either way, I don't really care about any personal drama. Just if you have any such screenshot I think it would be useful to have it posted publicly. Given that the site's reputation is being discussed here if fits the discussion. Title: Re: Red trusted casino promotes services under new account Post by: Ramdev on August 04, 2020, 05:16:25 AM I found that lot of players are complaning again about casino even their dev from dev team was saying its a scam and rigged site :( feel bad for players and i am sorry to support such as scam casino they are not paying to players why you don't say who you are dear Axxton ex-Moderator of WixiPlay ? Either way, I don't really care about any personal drama. Just if you have any such screenshot I think it would be useful to have it posted publicly. Given that the site's reputation is being discussed here if fits the discussion. https://imgur.com/UqSm57j https://imgur.com/A9S6Lnx https://imgur.com/dxKsAy7 https://imgur.com/Lljkm7U I also post some names of their alt account they use for win prmotion by those accounts Here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.msg54927691#msg54927691 |
