Red trusted casino promotes services under new account

[alani123]

WixiPlay.io back in December 2019 received valid accusations of running a rigged "provable fairness" system. Thread:
Wixiplay.io is rigged | one in ten million session | fake PF

Also, it was documented that hashes weren't matching with results:
https://youtu.be/8OXjKcheAug?t=526
8:50 timestamp

The account wixiplay had received two DT negative trust ratings.
It's likely that they made a new account to promote their services without the negative trust appearing.
New account:
WixiPlaySupport

I'm not sure if the standard of provable fairness has been improved on the site. Seems like it hasn't though.
IMO DT members should at least give neutral trust to the new account until someone checks on the fairness of the site.

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[Little Mouse]

I see only one DT tag on the previous account, from RHavar but there were a lot of people discussing that issue. I have no idea if the tag is correct since I do not have sufficient knowledge on the issue.
If you think they deserve a tag from the reference link event, you should tag them before anyone else do.

[The Cryptovator]

Seems 'WixiPlaySupport' already tagged by Coin_trader. However I left a neutral feedback for the record. I am not gambling expert and I can't just about their arguments that's why I didn't even left negative feedback to their official account 'WixiPlay'. For WixiPlay only one feedback is reflecting to me by default, so whoever expert on gambling and understand their arguments about provably fair they could add more feedback. Its seems they are evading ban.

[LoyceV]

I see only one DT tag on the previous account, from RHavar but there were a lot of people discussing that issue. I have no idea if the tag is correct since I do not have sufficient knowledge on the issue.

I consider RHavar very knowledgeable when it comes to provablye fair systems, and I trust him when he says this:

They can actually check if you're going through the impractical ceremony on not! I verified this by checking the network requests, and AFAICT the only way to view the server-seed hash is via a network request to "/ajax/modal" with "modal=fairness".

So this means they can actually if you're verifying the bets or not. So they could trivially cheat only when they know you won't be able to tell (when you never requested the server-seed hash).

[alani123]

Seems 'WixiPlaySupport' already tagged by Coin_trader. However I left a neutral feedback for the record. I am not gambling expert and I can't just about their arguments that's why I didn't even left negative feedback to their official account 'WixiPlay'. For WixiPlay only one feedback is reflecting to me by default, so whoever expert on gambling and understand their arguments about provably fair they could add more feedback. Its seems they are evading ban.

I think their previous account was unbanned before they posted. At least as per the last post of DT user Coin_trader in the casino's new thread.

EDIT:

It seems that Wixiplay is not ban anymore. I already revised my rating and willing to remove it once they prove that the casino was cheat free.

Still a very odd choice. And they bought copper on both their accounts too.
My only logical explanation is that they were trying to evade the bad ratings. And it seems the Provable fairness system is also not fixed yet.

[alani123]

Interesting to see that wikipay started a waggering contest while the provable fairness system in their website still seems to be changing server seeds with every roll... And moreover they admitted that their programmers are working on a supposed complete overhaul of the system that they said will fix what they were accused of...

Our dev team is working on the pf system once again, it will be completely changed, so we can end this problem once and for all.

Seems like holding a competition to see people wagering more was a priority to actually having the problems fixed.

[WixiPlaySupport]

WixiPlay.io back in December 2019 received valid accusations of running a rigged "provable fairness" system. Thread:
Wixiplay.io is rigged | one in ten million session | fake PF

Also, it was documented that hashes weren't matching with results:
https://youtu.be/8OXjKcheAug?t=526
8:50 timestamp

The account wixiplay had received two DT negative trust ratings.
It's likely that they made a new account to promote their services without the negative trust appearing.
New account:
WixiPlaySupport

I'm not sure if the standard of provable fairness has been improved on the site. Seems like it hasn't though.
IMO DT members should at least give neutral trust to the new account until someone checks on the fairness of the site.

NEW PROVABLY FAIR SYSTEM

We just updated our provably fair system. The server seed does not change anymore, it will change only if you press the "Change Pair" button.
This provably fair system was inspired from primedice.
Check it out: https://wixiplay.io/dice

[alani123]

I am glad to see there was effort put into improving the system for rpovable fairness on the site.
I will look into it and consider revising my rating accordingly. In my view a second chance to avoid stigma should be afforde dto be ventures in the space. Hopefully things stay fair under the new wsstem.

[RHavar]

I am glad to see there was effort put into improving the system for rpovable fairness on the site.
I will look into it and consider revising my rating accordingly. In my view a second chance to avoid stigma should be afforde dto be ventures in the space. Hopefully things stay fair under the new wsstem.

They don't really deserve a second chance, and it doesn't address the fundamental problem. They were openly scamming people, and most likely still are (just yesterday someone reported getting 84 losses in a row when trying to get 2x, which is for all intents and purposes impossible (1 in 0.505^84) if the site was legitimate.

FWIW I don't even think they implemented the new provably fair system properly -- but I really don't want to waste any more of my time on a thinly veiled scam.

[WixiPlaySupport]

I am glad to see there was effort put into improving the system for rpovable fairness on the site.
I will look into it and consider revising my rating accordingly. In my view a second chance to avoid stigma should be afforde dto be ventures in the space. Hopefully things stay fair under the new wsstem.

They don't really deserve a second chance, and it doesn't address the fundamental problem. They were openly scamming people, and most likely still are (just yesterday someone reported getting 84 losses in a row when trying to get 2x, which is for all intents and purposes impossible (1 in 0.505^84) if the site was legitimate.

FWIW I don't even think they implemented the new provably fair system properly -- but I really don't want to waste any more of my time on a thinly veiled scam.

Regarding that problem, there was a bug on wixicoin, everyone had it, it was a problem from our end( wixicoin it's a non non valuable coin)
You can verify the pf system here: https://www.diceroll.xyz/wixiplay
The PF system is working 100% and the server seed does not change anymore.

[RHavar]

The PF system is working 100% and the server seed does not change anymore.

Well, ignoring my earlier concerns -- it's not. Your system is asking people to commit to a client seed before you commit to a server-seed.

You can get max 10 loses in a row on 1.10x, the last one having a 0.00000001% chance to hit.

Stuff like this just makes me wonder if you have no idea what you're talking about, malicious, or both.

[alani123]

The PF system is working 100% and the server seed does not change anymore.

Well, ignoring my earlier concerns -- it's not. Your system is asking people to commit to a client seed before you commit to a server-seed.

Welp, ok... I was willing to at least look into the site after the issues were supposedly fixed, but now it feels pointless. Seems like I won't be re-considering anything.

They were openly scamming people, and most likely still are (just yesterday someone reported getting 84 losses in a row when trying to get 2x, which is for all intents and purposes impossible (1 in 0.505^84) if the site was legitimate.

Anyone have a link to this thread? It's fitting to have it here too IMO.

[WixiPlaySupport]

The PF system is working 100% and the server seed does not change anymore.

Well, ignoring my earlier concerns -- it's not. Your system is asking people to commit to a client seed before you commit to a server-seed.

You can get max 10 loses in a row on 1.10x, the last one having a 0.00000001% chance to hit.

Stuff like this just makes me wonder if you have no idea what you're talking about, malicious, or both.

I think you have something personal with us, you said you don't want to waste your time anymore with us, but you still made a new negative trust feedback and you are refusing to take them down.
The system was inspired from primedice, does that mean they are not pf?
How much do you get for making those defamation posts about us?

[LoyceV]

I think you have something personal with us, you said you don't want to waste your time anymore with us, but you still made a new negative trust feedback and you are refusing to take them down.

You've been proven wrong before, and you can't expect someone to keep wasting time when you try your next scheme.

The system was inspired from primedice, does that mean they are not pf?

I don't think Primedice does this:

Your system is asking people to commit to a client seed before you commit to a server-seed.

How much do you get for making those defamation posts about us?

I'm pretty sure RHavar doesn't need any money, can't be bribed (or at least not by amounts available to mortals), and he's not the one who makes you look bad. You do.

You can get max 10 loses in a row on 1.10x, the last one having a 0.00000001% chance to hit.

Stuff like this just makes me wonder if you have no idea what you're talking about, malicious, or both.

If you're in the casino business, you should completely understand statistics. I've seen many BS claims, and they usually come from either dumb people, or from scammers. If you're running a casino you shouldn't be either one of those, so the red tag is a good warning.

[actmyname]

I only came from this thread regarding WixiPlay, but I already made several observations about the casino before and after their 'provably fair' changes.

I can vouch for the mismatch between server seeds reported and the server seeds of the bets before their nonce change. This already makes it a full-on scam. To then change the provable fairness to include nonces would have been great, had they provided the server seed hash prior to generation.

Trying to say that this type of fairness verification is legitimate is like trying to pass off a fake signature with a Sartre quote.

[WixiPlaySupport]

UPDATE ON THE PROVABLY FAIR SYSTEM

We updated the new provably fair system, now you can see the next server seed (hashed) .

Check it out: https://wixiplay.io

[Ramdev]

I only came from this thread regarding WixiPlay, but I already made several observations about the casino before and after their 'provably fair' changes.

I can vouch for the mismatch between server seeds reported and the server seeds of the bets before their nonce change. This already makes it a full-on scam. To then change the provable fairness to include nonces would have been great, had they provided the server seed hash prior to generation.

Trying to say that this type of fairness verification is legitimate is like trying to pass off a fake signature with a  Sartre quote.

I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair

[LoyceV]

I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair

Or they switch to selective scamming. I wouldn't trust them.

[Ramdev]

I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair

Or they switch to selective scamming. I wouldn't trust them.

Nice excuses 🙂 that is what a legendry guy can do on btctalk , if they are trying  to prove themself you should help too don't be rude bro

[actmyname]

I think they are doing a lot of hardwork to prove that they are fair 🙂 and they do what they said now they also add server seed thing before changing the seed 🙂it should be enough for them to prove fair

Does everyone deserve a fourth chance? To extrapolate from one event a user's character would be a very unreliable system of conclusions. However, to get provably fair gambling wrong so many times without consulting anyone (because otherwise, this would have been resolved immediately), I consider that enough fodder to raise some serious concerns about the administration of the casino.