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https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/betking-sponsors-football-kenya-federation-sportpesa-still-out/ (https://www.gamblingnews.com/news/betking-sponsors-football-kenya-federation-sportpesa-still-out/)

Apparently Betking is sponsoring the Kenya football federation but Sportpesa Withdrew all sponsorships which actually supported local football teams .


Good thing :
-They are supporting the female league which is mostly overlooked

-By doing this they are extending their business to more people which is legal betting.

What do you guys think ? Should more betting sites and companies make a reasonable investment in popular sports , not only reasonable but responsible because as I see they are focusing on women and second tier teams..

This could mean it's giving the business a positive review.

P.S. Thank you so much for educating me about the scam , therefore I do think we have something more to discuss here :-

So BetKing Doing this must be a part of a big plan where they try and clear their image and at the same time scam more people for the long run , but 11 million$ is a lot ! Where are they getting all this money from .

I found this on Google :


But the thing is , I saw online and there are many websites out there related to BetKing , this can be just a vicious circle where more scammers use the name of the scammers themselves to scam more people.

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They might be trying to improve their image ??

Am really sorry for all the people who got scammed , I do hope you guys can leave your opinions and reviews here which would prevent future Investors to engage in such activities that might cause them to loose a lot of money .

Betking scammed me for $700. There's no way they have 11 million to spend.

First of all, I want to say that I have not seen many positive comments about the service you mentioned.  Also, it is useful to know at the end that since the football league you mentioned belongs to the small country, there is a possibility that the bets made with match-fixing and similar events will affect the match result.  For this reason, I do not recommend you to use the service you mentioned or bet on the matches in this league.

the article could just be a stunt by betking. they have been accused many times in the forum and did an ICO as well that god knows how it turned out. its very unusual for a scam to get into an article that surprisingly get an $11M deal.

i would be be surprise if betking will also have a dispute over taxes like the previous sportpesa. FKF better make sure of this deal and ask for show money.  ;D

Rather than directly getting into large scale investment, it might have planned to enter the platform through second tier teams. If things go stable, automatically it'll focus on the next level of sponsorship. Sportsbet initiated the plan sponsoring for a football league, and it's success might have made betking go for it.

AFAIK Betking has an issue and scammed people from the forum. There were feedbacks left on Dean's account. Before sponsoring, they should pay more attention to those people that they've brought inconvenience to make this news more reliable.

Seeing that it's Kenya, I think it's more likely that the actual amount spent on the league is a lie and part of a publicity stunt.
I.e., pay some officials in charge a gross sum, in turn they lie about how much you spent and you get off with some great advertising.

However, promotion of companies in a league's name isn't uncommon at all. In Greece the league licences its name to a company each year for a sum of money. From 2007 to 2017 the top league was named after the national betting company, and then 2017 2019 leagues was named after a water company that became a sponsor! Even a team did it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanthi_F.C. and also had a car manufacturer's name in its crest for a few years. It's good advertising for the companies and good money for the teams to utilized.

IDK if this case is true in terms of the amounts, sounds like not, but Kenyan league could sure use some money and it would do good if managed right. Not unlikely that there was a sponsorship but I think the level of the amount sounds a bit much though.

I think I'll consider this a good news if I don't know the reputation of BetKing in the forum, but no.. a scam site always have a dark reason behind the action. For those who don't know about the site, they can check the account in the forum - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=565024.

Exactly! For those that don't know their history, their move is great! However, a lot of us here in the forum know the truth about their profile. So I am assuming it is only a publicity stunt, maybe to rectify their bad reputation. But they need to address first their old issues before spending a lot of money to some sports team.

The same. They've stolen my bounty reward. So i have doubts about people which too greedy to pay their workers for advertising (and we are not talking about their scam ICO where investors lost their money) but ready to spend so big amount of money for charity and football.

My question, is this Betking in the topic is the same as the Betking that do some irregularities in crypto?

Betking.com, the one in the topic, doesn't support crypto. Betking.io is the one that does have negative reviews.

Might be Betking.io use other domain so that it can be dragged by the popularity of Betking.com? AFAIK, website name can be registered as same as long as they are using different domains?

Can someone clarify this or I'm totally wrong here?

Nah, just another publicity stunt for BetKing here, there reputation precedes them and most likely wanted to restore some in crypto community by supposedly supporting female league.

Firstly, we still need to be sure if the gambling site in subject does sponsored the Kenya football because they are once accused of scam and site which such record shouldnt be trusted.
With that been said, it will be nice if esport gambling site especially crypto related gambling site also join the league of corporations that sponsor football  and others sport to gain more awareness

The same site that conducted an ICO and the owner owe many users in this forum huge amounts of money even though he comes here and makes some remarks that he will be refunding everyone but it looks like he is yet to repay users here including Loyce.

Not sure whether they are able to pay that kind of money to sponsor the team but with their reputation i wont be surprised if they cancel the deal and i have seen it with 1xbet another shady site.

The Betking that did the ICO isn't the same casino that's sponsoring the football team. They share the same name but have different domains and are totally unrelated.

I was also curious so I did some quick search.

My conclusion, I think they are the same, look at the ANN thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119013.0, you can see a crown, and their website, https://www.betking.com/sports/s, you can also see the same crown.

this https://betking.io/ is not a gambling site anymore, it's more like an advertisement platform.

This betking.com has their TM-mark on their name. Whereas, the questionable betking.io has nothing in it.

https://i.imgur.com/7NIFdwO.png     
https://www.betking.com/             
                     

https://i.imgur.com/9BFeM3X.png
 https://betking.io/                                                                                           

betking.com is asking for details that are only asked by pure fiat-based casino. So no crypto here.

https://i.imgur.com/HmWhmQ3.png

I think this site is different from the betking.io account, which are still resolving issues from their customers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.msg54540211#msg54540211

I have seen many people posted here being scammed by BetKing but I don't think that the people there are aware of it and they don't really care with those scammed people TBH. Its sports so they will support it even though it is just a publicity stunt.

I don't think so. I couldn't really find any proper source for them being different, but I looked up both of their websites in simplywhois, and Betking.com is a LOT older than Betking.io. Betking.com was made back in 2001 and .io was made in 2015. If we were to consider Betking.io using another domain to avoid their mess back then, then shouldn't be the .com site younger? Well, there's a chance that Betking.com made Betking.io for purely crypto transactions/bettings but that would also be questionable since I see no need to actually separate them.

I also found this
It was in the Betking.io ANN thread, and if it says that they're just going to develop a sports betting platform, doesn't that mean that it really isn't them?

Or your $700 might have already formed part of that $11 million. And because they must have scammed a good deal of people, they have already accumulated that huge amount to try to build back their image in the crypto gambling industry. Which is futile. The ghosts of the past will haunt them no end until appeased.

And for Kenya Football Federation, they better ask for the check and have it cleared first before going any further with the deal. That should be the only way to deal with BetKing. Better safe than sorry.

We don't know how good and popular betking.com compare to betking.io, but if one site becomes popular, it will be normal if someone wants to create a website by using almost similar domain with the real website to trick people out there. With the logo that is almost the same, people can get scam by the fake site because some people will not check if that site is real or not.

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If a website can become a sponsor to one local event, and that is related to many people and companies, I think that website will not try to scam them because it will relate to the website's reputation. If Betking.com wants to make something different from the other site, I think they will not try to do something bad. Perhaps, the other even sponsor or the event organizer will recheck everything before they continue the event, and they will make something if they found a mistake or sign of the scam. We will see it later.

I am part of those who don't know their history.
At first glance of the OP's news it really look great and I almost tried to say it is.
But, from all the replies of the members then I think it is not a great news but instead it was bad news.

If they can grow their advertisement up to this extent then more will be victims of the scams they did.
We don't want that to happen. We don't want new victims for their new scam attempts.
How could we help others to not step on the same floor which other had experienced already?
Maybe report them with proofs?

We need to look for ways to spread the truth. It can be done by simply making comments in news sites, social media sites, and other venues. Make sure to link as many proofs as possible.

That is what is happening right here in this thread and it is very possible. Comments are making other people aware of the dark history of BetKing. At first impression an online casino sponsoring a national football is really big news. It is a welcome development for the sports, the country, and for crypto gambling. But with all the comments people are making, we are given a heads up that something dark might actually be brewing beneath all this publicity stunt.

so am i right that betking has a bad record before  . i almost forgot it because it was long time ago but there could be some bits left in my head on why i can still remember it whenever i heard thier name  . the said amount is huge but we shouldnt wonder if where did they got that money  , the money can came from thier bad deeds   .  if they havent cleared thier name before they can still look bad  . recieving a cash that came from stealing sounds not aprorpriate , if im the sport manager ill not accept this deal  .

Here is casino is betking.com and not betking.io. I understand your confusion because I had the same reaction when I first looked at the news. Betking.io is a scam website and if you check their reviews, you will see stories from people who have been scammed by them.

But Betking.com seems like legit sports betting operator. Even though you can see some scam acquisitions for Betking.com as well, but mostly the reviews are positive. If you have read the comments above, you could have find out that the sponsor is Betking.com and not Betking.io!   

Who cares about this everything when the sponsor is scammer?this maybe their stunt but for sure many will question the sincerity and how this will turn out.
Betking is proven scammer so there is no way that  there will be too many question that will throw against this game.

and who knows that there will be manipulation in this event?
i don't know but i care  nothing about this ,because there are many sports that i can get into and more popular than  Kenyan Football.

yes you are right indeed this gambling place has a bad history and I suggest you not to enter that gambling place, it could be that all the people's assets that have entered the gambling slot cannot withdraw assets and only get losses, there are still many other gambling places so try to use other gambling spots.

You are right. You just go through the threads made by them. Or to make it easy for you, look at Dean's trust feedback[1].
[1] Trust Summary for BetKing.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=565024)
He did a refund and partnership with bitsler but I think there's still plentiful number of people that haven't took the refund nor issues resolved.

I'm not really familiar about their issue but after reading what others have said it's clear that even if they will make a sponsorship to have a good image, it won't erase the negative image they had before for scamming people. If they are trying to get back the trust of the people by giving a good impression, it won't be easy for them since they have not cleared their name and reputation yet.

The management should also look or review it first before accepting sponsorship because if the money indeed came from stealing, the FKF can also get their name affected with betking's past issue.

Looking at the bad history of BetKing, it's likely they are trying to clear their image. By sponsoring Kenya football, but many victims
have been harmed by BetKing, so BetKing will always look bad in the cryptocurrency community. Besides, it is impossible for BetKing
to have as much as $ 11 million, there are other lies made by BetKing. And I will not wear BetKing sites to play gambling. And I don't
know if BetKing.com is the same as BetKing.io, it's safer to avoid both sites.

Reading above posts again, it seems that betking.com is a separate entity from betking.io. Their existence is longer than betking.io. I sent an email to betking.com to check about their connections. Let's see what will be their reply.

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Since they already have scammed a lot of money, there might be a hidden agenda on their action. I hope Kenya is aware of the credibility of the company sponsoring them, if this is for publicity, it could be to clean their name or to victimize more people.


This is something that they need to clarify to avoid confusion and to avoid their reputation being tarnished by scam accusation.

It looks like they're based on Nigeria and doesn't even accept cryptocurrencies so they're probably not related to the other Betking we all know that's now an affiliate site.

Here's more information that can be found on their about page

This is really a serious concern to many of their victim, and it needs a legal action which will put betking liable to face scam accusations. If they can prove themselves innocent of this matter, then there's no problem about it. First of all, we need to listen and be open minded with different thoughts that will come out, since this thing might be controversial to everybody.

Almost every active member on this forum understand what their actions was when they scammed forum members, basically, this information should be view as a means of them trying fixing their problems with those involved. Maybe they were approach to clean up their dirty from the public before going into the sponsorship.

This forum is popular, sure, a lot of members know about their reputation, but I think that would not stop a project from still operating, I've seen some gambling sites here where their forum account is negged tag but they are still into operation. Based on the article, $11 milion is a huge money, so this site is really huge,  and can impact the gambling world, so I was just wondering, what aren't they are fixing their reputation, aren't they thinking of their future.

OK so I read all the posts and so the newbies reading this can understand what is going on can we ask OP to please update the thread title and OP to reflect all these points?

Betking.com and not Betking.io

We do NOT want new gamblers to accidentally go and deposit at a failed site right? Not that sponsorship should convince people to do anything;)

Obviously, they are trying to clean up their image, however, if they are that serious, then the first thing to do is to solved their problems first in this community. But they didn't, no response from them whatsoever after so many years. And I agree that they should have look at the issue they got themselves involved.

And now the uproar, they just brought back the accusations and heat with their actions here.

Perhaps they turned out to have a change of heart after all? /s

BetKing has scammed a lot of people in the past and I highly doubt that they have that much to spend being sponsors. It's mainly a publicity stunt for the masses to win their trust over again and start yet another scamming spree like they did in the past. And maybe the Kenyan officials are into it as well, to mask the actual amount that they sponsor and to keep things going for a while. There's just enough evidence on BetKing being scammers that it's hard to really risk doing business with them even if they get a legitimate share of the pie in the Kenyan football league.

Look guys. There is a difference between the two, maybe the BetKing.com is actaully not the same as BetKing.io who scammed many of you. 

I really think its virtually impossible for Betking.io the scam will have connection to the sports betting and if it canlt pay Loyce the $700 they've scammed from him, they definitely don't have the $11M too.  They could turn this into a good marketing though.

Per this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1842538.0), Betking scammed 4.7 million usd, I'm just wondering why until now they are not in jailed if there is a solid evidence?

So I received a reply from their customer support. I sent email to -cs@betking.com as seen from below contact list
https://www.betking.com/help/general-help/contact-us/

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Received also an email that my ticket has been resolved.

https://img.techpowerup.org/200723/screen-shot-2020-07-23-at-10-08-05-pm.png

So they are 2 different companies. Seems betking.com is legit.

First thing that came into my mind was that too. ;D
Could they really have scammed a lot of people and made this huge amount?
Yeah it must be reason behind it.
Do they think they are Robinhood or something?
Robbing people just so they could do good at the end to satisfy their hunger for popularity or worse, to scam more which will deposit higher amounts.

They should first clear their name.
Perhaps there are still other users out there who are just not talking about same scam attempts.

As some people have stated this is most likely an attempt to try to clean their image after the scam they performed in the forum, while it may seem odd they are investing that much money the truth is that most likely they are planning to recover that money by scamming even more people down the road.

I really hope it does not happen but taking into account how successful they have been at scamming people from their money it is possible they have thought this very thoroughly and they will be able to get away with it again tarnishing the image of this market even further in the process.

I think you should not ask them if you want to get the right answer.. no scammers will admit publicly that they scam people.

Don't expect this answer, "Hey that's us, we scammed people back then, CHEERS!"

The consensus of the people here is this site is the same with betking.io.

The problem, is that amount of people outside forum is far larger than here. So even if you're a scammer, you can hype on such things (i doubt that they paid to this football clubs. more like they paid to journalists) outside forum and you will look good in the eyes of majority. They even don't know that bitcointalk exists.

No dumb will really admit out into their mistakes or issues in the past thats why its not really that reliable in regards to their responses.We know on how shitty do become Betking is when we do talk into this forum.
They have unresolved accusations of scamming out users or investors and everytime betking do make up some headlines then i cant blame of on the negative impression around for such company.
They should really need to fix things up if they do like to withdstand into this industry but for me it is really hard to patch it up.
Ive been waiting for Jollygood's reaction again on this one.  :D

I am very sure this news is not true, which is impossible with BetKing's bad reputation. Sponsoring Kenya Football in numbers
fantastic money, I doubt BetKing has that kind of money. It's possible that BetKing paid journalists to spread this news, and if
they do that to clear their names. I am sure their goals will fail, because the members of this forum are numerous and everywhere.
Surely there will be victims from BetKing who are trying to prove their decay. Really shameless BetKing.

Based on Twinkledoe's post regarding betking.com reply, BetKing.com is not connected with betking.io.
And looking at their creation date, betking.com has long been in the business before this betking.io surfaced.
So I guess, if representative from betking.com can post here to clarify this matter, that would be much appreciated.

I tried to dig more and this is what I found.
Betking.com
https://dailypost.ng/2019/02/26/jj-okocha-congratulates-betking-1st-anniversary-leader-sports-betting-industry/
https://i.ibb.co/18Hshkc/betkingcom.png (https://ibb.co/nzh3ZFp)

Betking.io
https://www.ventureradar.com/organisation/BetKing/f0f17a49-8d41-4b3e-a7a2-db514232de44
https://i.ibb.co/vY541Z0/betkingio.png (https://ibb.co/JQLjn5D)

It could be that Betking.io was created first.
Need to dig more. We cannot just ask them about this because they could lie through their teeth.

Well I last invested with Betking a long time back and also withdrew my investment after deciding that I need to put my eggs on a different basket and it is not worth my time and energy to continue with the said project. They are being tagged as scammers by so many people and now they still have the courage to use the same name in their dealings in other countries. I am not sure what made them decide to use the same name but for the so called investors and those who still "trust" betking, then you need to think twice or many times before making decisions in investing all with them.

Hell yeah, he created a thread about betking exposing their scam, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.0... and there are others actually like loyce where his alts also posted in this thread saying that he himself got scam. If there are clear connection of the 2 sites, it would be nice to see some doubts of some posters here will be gone.

I think that even they maybe different companies,the fact that they used the same name as a scammer company is not a really good indication of who they might be.Personally based on the experience here in the forum which I have seen a lot of scam accusations against Betking I would be afraid to join such company even if they sponsorship a league from a poor country like Kenya.

Sponsorship if for the publicity there is no doubt in that but why they choose Kenya which is popular too? If they really wanted to sponsor with such huge amount they can be a part of most football league sponsorship so they get better attention.

I think it will be even greater when gambling companies work with several countries that hold soccer matches because they will certainly trigger others to open betking and learn in full and can even do gambling on betking.

It's just simple for them to say that the two sites are not related just to hide what happened in the past since betking was involved in scam accusations. But we're still not sure if they are saying the truth or not. It's better for them to make some public clarification about the issue because it will just affect their image since they have the same name, and the other one has a negative image. If they don't want to get involved in issues like this (if they are not really connected), they should make it clear to everyone.

Though, the industry has not been fair enough when it come to justice, BetKing by now should have been closed down because of several scams they have  carried out. Its time we stand up against these scammers no matter where they come from and be prosecuted according to the laws of the land.

Those gambling platforms which later rectified their issues should be exonerated; but those without remorse to their victims shouldn't be allow to go free without the laws having it course. All the gambling platforms I have gamble so far are base on forum feedbacks, those individuals who still use scam platforms should always blame their selves for any thing that happens.

In fact they should sue the site and do something to take down and the site that tries to imitate them merely announcing it will not help, they should do something or else they will continue to receive complaints and they will have to address and clarify this over and over again.

Honestly I think this site should be taken down already if they are related with Betking.io.
Obviously Betking.io scammed investors during the ICO, so I guess some of the investors can find a way to sue the site Betking.com if they are related.

This site that we are talking is a licensed site, according to them, so it's easy to go after a licensed gambling site.

https://www.betking.com/help/general-help/about-us/



CAN WE VERIFY THAT?

With this comparison it looks like they are different company but why does a one company will use same name from the very questionable and scammer name of company?
meaning their advertising team do not make research before using this name?because i believe that the scammers  name has been around for years while this one is just newer?
anyway maybe i'm wrong but this is a question that must be answered.

or because they are just one or run by the same owner.


yes it's newer according to this post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263928.msg54858753#msg54858753

betking.io opened in 2013, while betking.com opened in 2018. (just read the post link)

Even if they do a lot of sponsorship to as many sports organizations it will not erased the fact that they have scammed a lot of people if gamblers will Google about the gambling site and about the scamming they have done to their clients I don't think they will earn goodwill even if they spend millions and I don't think they have that amount,  and if I am the organizer or the president of the organization I will not accept the sponsorship.

Yeah, we need to be open-minded, and it will be necessary if we can contact them while I believe that we already got the answer from the site.


Great. So we have an email from them. Thank you.

It is necessary to ask them to know their answer.

So we have a full address of them with the telephone number, and they say that they are open 24/7 (Monday through Sunday), and if someone knows that address, maybe he can visit on that address to see the truth, and he can share what he found. We will not know the truth if we don't visit that address to see if they are real or not. They have a connection with betking.io or not.

me too because this will only infect my image . money is nothing to me but what important is that our team is fair and clean  . why cannot they use the money to pay thier past clients  .

 in that way the reviews that we saw on the search engine are also going to be remove too because they can ask for revision to that  . its not too late to start again with a fresh reputation   . i can forgive someone that is willing to change no matter how heavy the damage that is dealt

I think it's a positive development. Good for Bitcoin promotion. The real sports industry is very large. I think it is important for the football lover to use bitcoin. It will grow its price and bitcoin economy in the long run.

If they want to have a fresh reputation and build up again the trust they get from their players at least they fix their old scam issue. Also tying up on an organization for a sports team with a bad image could also damage the reputation of a team.

That's is the big question.
When you are creating a big company which is website based, you will try to be unique.
It's crazy if they didn't check that first before using this name.
You don't want to be branded with a bad reputation just because "same name" website does evil works.

It is.
Which is why, the question still remains.
Are they just the same? BetKing.io might have a different agenda into why they still took the name.
Assuming BetKing.com is theirs too.

1. They want their old customers.
2. They think they could clear the bad reputation by just changing the generic TLD.

If I am part of the Kenya Football Association I will not allow a gambling site like Betking with a bad reputation to sponsor to any of our events because fans will just question it and if they are just using the association then the association must post an update or confirmatory that they do have an offer for sponsorship.

They were approached by various members of the forum to fix the problem and inconvenience that they've brought. If this is for real, they have to clean the mess that they've done so that people won't be thinking bad whichever they do or sum up to the name of their casino.
But if they won't care, we don't know if they do or not.

I don't think Bitcoin is getting promoted with that sponsorship as they're not the same Betking and there's no cryptocurrencies accepted in their casino.

Visiting the address would be much difficult and I don't think it'll help unless you know all the people who worked with betking.io to prove the connection. It's easier to link these two based on the name of their management but I can't seem to find anything on the side of betking.io.

Bad reputation like BetKing I doubt that they can give money to sponsor Kenya Football, there are two possibilities that occur.
First the news was fake or fabricated, then second possibility parties of the Kenya Football Association did not know BetKing's
bad reputation. But with easy internet access now, the Kenya Football Association should already know BetKing's reputation.
So it's first possible of all makes sense, that BetKing made fake news for the purpose of publicity stunts and cleared their names.

If they won't care about these allegations; then they won't be the right sponsors for this event. If given the event without the team investigation into these feedbacks from us, then the fans will do this on the pitch of play to them and answer will be provided. Remember, the world is here on this forum, I believe Kenya's are also much active in this discussion.

I don't think they can remove their bad reputation just from this activity even if it real, they may deceive some users from that country if they are not knows about betking bad reputation.Most of the african countries are not started using cryptos because they lost faith on their fiat that is why Betking tragetting there.

Thats  the only only way but it seems that they dont have any plans on clearing those issues back in the past that they had made and now they are trying to partnering other team?

Im not sure if other side is fully aware on Betkings side of things but its just impossible if they wont make at least some background or reputation check before they would make up some deal.

I do see that when someone do talk or mention about Betking then i do see and hear of majority are on negative ones.

That's wrong, people will still check their reputation and bring them to their knees when time comes. Reputation issue will definitely affect them if this story is true and legitimate and moreover, Kenya's are ready these comments. Africans are now opening towards cryptocurrency compared to some part of Asians they haven't lost faith yet as ecoin is for African nations cryptocurrency.

Well that is surely a risky move. They must be so sure that they wont be chased for their existing concerns relating to them as a scam. Sponsoring is a big move since this would surely make them a popular and people would start digging up more information about them. I just hope that they fix their Bad Reputation after doing stuffs like this although it might be just a publicity stunt to cover up their mistakes.

If they do not close the previous allegation it will have a bad impact on them only. Because running away from such things would not help until they fix it. People would be researching on internet about the site and would come to know about their previous history and this will create a bad publicity for them.

For those gamblers that don't want to be screwed again with the namesake of this site with sponsorship, just don't play on their site. I think that's the best way to avoid both of these 2 sites. Because right now, no one can validate their relationship and based from the reply of betking.com to me, they are not related. But in which, some of the users here have a point that we should not totally trust what they say.

Just wondering why they can pay a sponsorship but the owner of betking cannot pay those users who are wrecked by their site?? meaning their for this stunt is they have bad agenda regarding on running that sponsorship so best for people not to go with it and just leave those things up.

I'm sure many people don't want to cry for another refund right?

So best not to trust any related site or any tag on them.

It is either they are trying to fix their image/reputation by doing such stunt or they want to make people believe that they have funds to sponsor and in the end itvs just a cover up of their plan to scam people's money. I have found a scam site where they made people believe that they are not scammer and it is just a cover up to scam more.

That's what I mean, if this sponsorship of a thing is accepted then they should be ready for further digging up of their feedbacks from the forum. This issue can't be swept under the carpet because it now go global, my candid advise to the Betking is, they should kindly proceed to Solve those issues regardless of either heavy of light issues from the forum.

The question there is would they really dare to solve those issues? Bitsler do their generosity and I don't think betking will do the same, since if they are really serious with this thing then they should do some beneficial to the affected persons but they are here do nothing, But maybe they have plans for that since they already run a sponsorship and maybe best to wait for their next move since for sure they will not succeed on what they are planning if there is a pending issues hunting in their background.

As long as the internet is showing that they have a bad reputation, I don;t think they can regain their reputation even if they sponsor a football event, they are in fact going in a wrong direction, they should have address the issue first before making a plan of sponsoring any events so they will come clean.

Yes, betking has encountered with several issues and most weren't settled till date. This has caused a bad reputation over betking. In simple as in the above quote betking should've concentrated on solving the issues and go for sponsoring. If not, the betking team should have solved the issue and enter the gambling market sponsored in a new name. This will easily popularize them.

But if that football club or team or league doesn't have sponsor, they will allow anyone to sponsor them and in this case, they probably don't know the history of their sponsor.
IMHO, I disagree on that. We don't know if they are active in this discussion,if so, they have already joined the discussion.

You are right and this is so sad, what I do not see is how they are going to scam people this time around, is this just an attempt to clear their image in the forum and then try once again claiming they have changed or that they have been doing something in the meantime and they deserve another chance? Or are they planning to scam people at Kenya using fiat? Do they really think they can away with it?

It wont really make any difference no matter how many partnerships they would do or any sponsorship,people would still have those bad impressions towards BK.

They should resolve it first before making any stunts or whatosever because it would be all useless if the community do knows on how shitty this Betking had become.

Pending issues or problems arent really good in any business.

They already did scam before and just by looking their profile here in the forum onne will not believe them anymore, they scam their investors and getting attention publicly this time of Pandemic can get them more visitors or players. Sponsorship can bring good or bad result to them as people may invest or dig in their profile or background and will find out they are scammers yet they will spend money for sponsorship.

Assuming what betking.com said is true, how can they pay for the wrong doings of others?  Would you settle a debt made by other people?  Of course no.  The best action of course here is to avoid them if we are doubting them.  No way we can accuse them of of something because of having a same name as  Betking.io  without any solid proof that they have the same owner.



As far as I know Betking.io is refunding their client and the refund is still on the process atm.


Definitely agree on this.  Be vigilant to any site that caters a negative trust score.

I also think that this is just another terrible move from them because if they have the money to pay the sponsors they better pay the gamblers who lost money on their casino as I am pretty sure a lot of people lost money into their casino and the ICO they did which failed and was a complete scam basically.

I think no one should attach their name with them for money money and if Kenya football are going to do it, they will attach a bad name and bad reputation with them forever which no matter what they won't be able to wash up.

So, is it trusted as a scam or legit one but having a problem with some user funds? Or its partnership? Every betting may have its challenge. However here, we can see how the platform is a scam or not by seeking the review. but now the difficult thing is that they can give like the same proof as legit betting. So, better to do more about this. Aside from it, is it actually good news?

Actually the sponsorship is good but they need to fix and settle all of those problems that they have before. As much as it's good that a football club gets sponsorship but the history of the sponsor doesn't matter to them.
But to us that are aware of the history of their sponsor, they have to clean up the mess they have before.

Their issue will not be erase because they do provide sponsorship, but it will makes the issue more laud as they were able to give more money without settling their issue. It will be favorable with them of they will able to have new players thru this event, new players that are not familiar with them and did not want to dig more research about the casino. If we were not here in forum we might not know that this casino did scam before.

If you believe that the site is scam, you should not see it as a good news as they just want to market more gamblers to play in their site and maybe this time they will take bigger money from gamblers.

Bet companies should sponsor more smaller leagues, these league needs financial support to float, and they are also advertising their brand. BET way another good sport betting site sponsoring league but they also sponsor local contents,

That is what they need to do before the situations become worst, and they need to explain it to the public, especially for the members here, so we don't have a misunderstanding about the site.
Many of us get scam by the site using betking domain names, and we don't know if they are both have relations or not, and that is why many of us think that those websites have the same owner.
If they can clear up the mess, I think that can give them a space to run the promotions out there without thinking about this, and the important is they can get more sponsors from another company too.

Kenya Football Federation I think is a small league, but Betking sponsors $11.1 million, so that's really big.
Actually that's good as the purpose is to help the league, but the main concern why this thread is created is to tackle the move of Betking and its reputation. 

Another issue here is everyone is jumping into a conclusion that Betking.com and Betking.io is one company without any established proof aside from the same name.  Ever think why would they spend $11.1m for sponsorship if they have remaining issues with investors (assuming they are the same company here)?  If they wanted to build their reputation, it is logical to settle any issues first than spending something for charities and I believe the owner of Betking.com is not that dumb to overlook that matter.  So my guess here is that they are different companies.

Many have witnessed this BetKing being affiliated and evidently accused of scamming activities, so yes, this can be a publicity stunt once again. They may be doing this to salvage there reputation but people will not just forget their history and will always have trust issues with their intentions.

I believe they think they can get away with it because for the most part people are very naive, people do not really make a research before investing or playing in any casino, many people are very trusting and despite the long story of BetKing in the forum and the fact that most of us knows they are not to be trusted most people are never going to be visit this forum until they are scammed by them and by that time it is already too late.

They are probably counting with this in order to get away with yet another scam, I really hope they don't but knowing how successful they have been in the past doing this I will not count on that.

Betking.com has nothing to do with serial scammer Dean Nolan and his scam betking.io website.

i believe that as well. i think from the previous pages, it has been said that betking.com is not related with betking.io. and checking the betking.com, it has all the legalities and license. maybe they dont have account here because they are fiat-based casino so they cant clarify themselves here.
so much so that for this publicity issue, because i dont see any connection with serial scammer Dean Nolan. but if one is not at peace that betking.com is not a fraudulent site, then just play in other casinos. anyway, you have a lot of choices and no one is obliging you to play on their site

If Betking indeed have that money for sponsorship then I guess they have a wider plan to scam more people continuosly which is not good
especially that they already scammed a lot of people not only in this forum.

Scammers are very good in marketing and I am pretty sure that this is only part of their marketing plan if they are serious about this move
because aside in getting a good name they can also gather new users who have no knowledge about their bad doings.

Most of the sport sponsorer don't pay all the money once and they usually sign an agreement about the payment timespan.
With that been said, you and I don't know if Betking is planning to scam the Kenyan or but nothing stop them since they have once scammed people, what I understand is that crypto gambling site which is once accused of scam moved their business to Africa and backed it with good marketing but I haven't heard any news that they scam there. An example is 1xbet and Betking has joined the race.

If both Betking is the same, then yes, they can have another plan to scam people, especially those who know them offline from that sponsorship program. But I hope that people will know if that is right or not, and they don't have to join with that to save their money from scamming. I am sure that the scammer will try to use many ways to trick people and get their money, and they can succeed with their plan if we are not careful.

i visit the link shared on the first post and they dont clarify if its betking.io or betking.com  but op qouted betking.io  .  but thanks for clarifying the two site guys , i didnt know that both have simillar domain names but only have different extentions .  i already visited both of them just now and i found out that betking.com is not a crypto based while the other betking.io is now a refferal site and they said they are partner with the casinos that they refer , thats questionable to me

I visited the site too and did not find anything to will connect to Betking.io because it is more about sports betting to which betking.io offers online gambling casino. I am pretty sure that this is all about Betking.com for it is really all about sports. They had conducted a sports betting and this is clearly an advertisement promoting their site for a possible betting for sports. Well, this is another means of a support to Kenya football and of course if it is all for good then we should take it positively.

Myself too checked with the article. No content describes whether it is betking.io or betking.com, and from the way it's animals been mentioned I too consider betking.com as the sponsor for the Kenya Football. I took based on the previous sponsor list. Earlier it was sportspeso and then it was betin and now it is betking.com, almost every sponsor is a sportsbook.