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July 24, 2020, 12:08:58 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2020, 02:24:02 PM by Natalim
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meaning their advertising team do not make research before using this name?
or because they are just one or run by the same owner.

because i believe that the scammers  name has been around for years while this one is just newer?
anyway maybe i'm wrong but this is a question that must be answered.

yes it's newer according to this post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263928.msg54858753#msg54858753

betking.io opened in 2013, while betking.com opened in 2018. (just read the post link)

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July 24, 2020, 01:21:43 PM
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Even if they do a lot of sponsorship to as many sports organizations it will not erased the fact that they have scammed a lot of people if gamblers will Google about the gambling site and about the scamming they have done to their clients I don't think they will earn goodwill even if they spend millions and I don't think they have that amount,  and if I am the organizer or the president of the organization I will not accept the sponsorship.

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July 24, 2020, 01:52:05 PM
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This is really a serious concern to many of their victim, and it needs a legal action which will put betking liable to face scam accusations. If they can prove themselves innocent of this matter, then there's no problem about it. First of all, we need to listen and be open minded with different thoughts that will come out, since this thing might be controversial to everybody.

Yeah, we need to be open-minded, and it will be necessary if we can contact them while I believe that we already got the answer from the site.

So I received a reply from their customer support. I sent email to -cs@betking.com as seen from below contact list
https://www.betking.com/help/general-help/contact-us/

Received also an email that my ticket has been resolved.
So they are 2 different companies. Seems betking.com is legit.

Great. So we have an email from them. Thank you.

It is necessary to ask them to know their answer.

So we have a full address of them with the telephone number, and they say that they are open 24/7 (Monday through Sunday), and if someone knows that address, maybe he can visit on that address to see the truth, and he can share what he found. We will not know the truth if we don't visit that address to see if they are real or not. They have a connection with betking.io or not.

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July 24, 2020, 02:18:03 PM
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Even if they do a lot of sponsorship to as many sports organizations it will not erased the fact that they have scammed a lot of people if gamblers will Google about the gambling site and about the scamming they have done to their clients I don't think they will earn goodwill even if they spend millions and I don't think they have that amount,  and if I am the organizer or the president of the organization I will not accept the sponsorship.

me too because this will only infect my image . money is nothing to me but what important is that our team is fair and clean  . why cannot they use the money to pay thier past clients  .

 in that way the reviews that we saw on the search engine are also going to be remove too because they can ask for revision to that  . its not too late to start again with a fresh reputation   . i can forgive someone that is willing to change no matter how heavy the damage that is dealt
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July 24, 2020, 02:21:19 PM
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I think it's a positive development. Good for Bitcoin promotion. The real sports industry is very large. I think it is important for the football lover to use bitcoin. It will grow its price and bitcoin economy in the long run.
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July 24, 2020, 02:34:48 PM
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Even if they do a lot of sponsorship to as many sports organizations it will not erased the fact that they have scammed a lot of people if gamblers will Google about the gambling site and about the scamming they have done to their clients I don't think they will earn goodwill even if they spend millions and I don't think they have that amount,  and if I am the organizer or the president of the organization I will not accept the sponsorship.

me too because this will only infect my image . money is nothing to me but what important is that our team is fair and clean  . why cannot they use the money to pay thier past clients  .

 in that way the reviews that we saw on the search engine are also going to be remove too because they can ask for revision to that  . its not too late to start again with a fresh reputation   . i can forgive someone that is willing to change no matter how heavy the damage that is dealt
If they want to have a fresh reputation and build up again the trust they get from their players at least they fix their old scam issue. Also tying up on an organization for a sports team with a bad image could also damage the reputation of a team.
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July 25, 2020, 08:14:37 AM
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With this comparison it looks like they are different company but why does a one company will use same name from the very questionable and scammer name of company?
That's is the big question.
When you are creating a big company which is website based, you will try to be unique.
It's crazy if they didn't check that first before using this name.
You don't want to be branded with a bad reputation just because "same name" website does evil works.

years while this one is just newer?
anyway maybe i'm wrong but this is a question that must be answered.
It is.
Which is why, the question still remains.
Are they just the same? BetKing.io might have a different agenda into why they still took the name.
Assuming BetKing.com is theirs too.

1. They want their old customers.
2. They think they could clear the bad reputation by just changing the generic TLD.

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July 25, 2020, 09:41:36 AM
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If I am part of the Kenya Football Association I will not allow a gambling site like Betking with a bad reputation to sponsor to any of our events because fans will just question it and if they are just using the association then the association must post an update or confirmatory that they do have an offer for sponsorship.

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July 25, 2020, 09:48:36 AM
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AFAIK Betking has an issue and scammed people from the forum. There were feedbacks left on Dean's account. Before sponsoring, they should pay more attention to those people that they've brought inconvenience to make this news more reliable.
Almost every active member on this forum understand what their actions was when they scammed forum members, basically, this information should be view as a means of them trying fixing their problems with those involved. Maybe they were approach to clean up their dirty from the public before going into the sponsorship.
They were approached by various members of the forum to fix the problem and inconvenience that they've brought. If this is for real, they have to clean the mess that they've done so that people won't be thinking bad whichever they do or sum up to the name of their casino.
But if they won't care, we don't know if they do or not.

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July 25, 2020, 09:55:37 AM
Last edit: July 25, 2020, 10:15:49 AM by ralle14
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I think it's a positive development. Good for Bitcoin promotion. The real sports industry is very large. I think it is important for the football lover to use bitcoin. It will grow its price and bitcoin economy in the long run.
I don't think Bitcoin is getting promoted with that sponsorship as they're not the same Betking and there's no cryptocurrencies accepted in their casino.

It is necessary to ask them to know their answer.

So we have a full address of them with the telephone number, and they say that they are open 24/7 (Monday through Sunday), and if someone knows that address, maybe he can visit on that address to see the truth, and he can share what he found. We will not know the truth if we don't visit that address to see if they are real or not. They have a connection with betking.io or not.
Visiting the address would be much difficult and I don't think it'll help unless you know all the people who worked with betking.io to prove the connection. It's easier to link these two based on the name of their management but I can't seem to find anything on the side of betking.io.

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July 25, 2020, 11:20:34 AM
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Bad reputation like BetKing I doubt that they can give money to sponsor Kenya Football, there are two possibilities that occur.
First the news was fake or fabricated, then second possibility parties of the Kenya Football Association did not know BetKing's
bad reputation. But with easy internet access now, the Kenya Football Association should already know BetKing's reputation.
So it's first possible of all makes sense, that BetKing made fake news for the purpose of publicity stunts and cleared their names.

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July 25, 2020, 05:39:02 PM
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AFAIK Betking has an issue and scammed people from the forum. There were feedbacks left on Dean's account. Before sponsoring, they should pay more attention to those people that they've brought inconvenience to make this news more reliable.
Almost every active member on this forum understand what their actions was when they scammed forum members, basically, this information should be view as a means of them trying fixing their problems with those involved. Maybe they were approach to clean up their dirty from the public before going into the sponsorship.
They were approached by various members of the forum to fix the problem and inconvenience that they've brought. If this is for real, they have to clean the mess that they've done so that people won't be thinking bad whichever they do or sum up to the name of their casino.
But if they won't care, we don't know if they do or not.
If they won't care about these allegations; then they won't be the right sponsors for this event. If given the event without the team investigation into these feedbacks from us, then the fans will do this on the pitch of play to them and answer will be provided. Remember, the world is here on this forum, I believe Kenya's are also much active in this discussion.

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July 25, 2020, 06:27:41 PM
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Bad reputation like BetKing I doubt that they can give money to sponsor Kenya Football, there are two possibilities that occur.
First the news was fake or fabricated, then second possibility parties of the Kenya Football Association did not know BetKing's
bad reputation. But with easy internet access now, the Kenya Football Association should already know BetKing's reputation.
So it's first possible of all makes sense, that BetKing made fake news for the purpose of publicity stunts and cleared their names.

I don't think they can remove their bad reputation just from this activity even if it real, they may deceive some users from that country if they are not knows about betking bad reputation.Most of the african countries are not started using cryptos because they lost faith on their fiat that is why Betking tragetting there.









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July 25, 2020, 06:53:41 PM
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Even if they do a lot of sponsorship to as many sports organizations it will not erased the fact that they have scammed a lot of people if gamblers will Google about the gambling site and about the scamming they have done to their clients I don't think they will earn goodwill even if they spend millions and I don't think they have that amount,  and if I am the organizer or the president of the organization I will not accept the sponsorship.

me too because this will only infect my image . money is nothing to me but what important is that our team is fair and clean  . why cannot they use the money to pay thier past clients  .

 in that way the reviews that we saw on the search engine are also going to be remove too because they can ask for revision to that  . its not too late to start again with a fresh reputation   . i can forgive someone that is willing to change no matter how heavy the damage that is dealt
If they want to have a fresh reputation and build up again the trust they get from their players at least they fix their old scam issue. Also tying up on an organization for a sports team with a bad image could also damage the reputation of a team.

Thats  the only only way but it seems that they dont have any plans on clearing those issues back in the past that they had made and now they are trying to partnering other team?

Im not sure if other side is fully aware on Betkings side of things but its just impossible if they wont make at least some background or reputation check before they would make up some deal.

I do see that when someone do talk or mention about Betking then i do see and hear of majority are on negative ones.

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July 25, 2020, 07:56:25 PM
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Bad reputation like BetKing I doubt that they can give money to sponsor Kenya Football, there are two possibilities that occur.
First the news was fake or fabricated, then second possibility parties of the Kenya Football Association did not know BetKing's
bad reputation. But with easy internet access now, the Kenya Football Association should already know BetKing's reputation.
So it's first possible of all makes sense, that BetKing made fake news for the purpose of publicity stunts and cleared their names.

I don't think they can remove their bad reputation just from this activity even if it real, they may deceive some users from that country if they are not knows about betking bad reputation.Most of the african countries are not started using cryptos because they lost faith on their fiat that is why Betking tragetting there.
That's wrong, people will still check their reputation and bring them to their knees when time comes. Reputation issue will definitely affect them if this story is true and legitimate and moreover, Kenya's are ready these comments. Africans are now opening towards cryptocurrency compared to some part of Asians they haven't lost faith yet as ecoin is for African nations cryptocurrency.

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Well that is surely a risky move. They must be so sure that they wont be chased for their existing concerns relating to them as a scam. Sponsoring is a big move since this would surely make them a popular and people would start digging up more information about them. I just hope that they fix their Bad Reputation after doing stuffs like this although it might be just a publicity stunt to cover up their mistakes.

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July 26, 2020, 09:09:34 AM
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Well that is surely a risky move. They must be so sure that they wont be chased for their existing concerns relating to them as a scam. Sponsoring is a big move since this would surely make them a popular and people would start digging up more information about them. I just hope that they fix their Bad Reputation after doing stuffs like this although it might be just a publicity stunt to cover up their mistakes.

If they do not close the previous allegation it will have a bad impact on them only. Because running away from such things would not help until they fix it. People would be researching on internet about the site and would come to know about their previous history and this will create a bad publicity for them.
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July 26, 2020, 09:41:03 AM
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Well that is surely a risky move. They must be so sure that they wont be chased for their existing concerns relating to them as a scam. Sponsoring is a big move since this would surely make them a popular and people would start digging up more information about them. I just hope that they fix their Bad Reputation after doing stuffs like this although it might be just a publicity stunt to cover up their mistakes.

If they do not close the previous allegation it will have a bad impact on them only. Because running away from such things would not help until they fix it. People would be researching on internet about the site and would come to know about their previous history and this will create a bad publicity for them.


For those gamblers that don't want to be screwed again with the namesake of this site with sponsorship, just don't play on their site. I think that's the best way to avoid both of these 2 sites. Because right now, no one can validate their relationship and based from the reply of betking.com to me, they are not related. But in which, some of the users here have a point that we should not totally trust what they say.
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July 26, 2020, 10:05:24 AM
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Well that is surely a risky move. They must be so sure that they wont be chased for their existing concerns relating to them as a scam. Sponsoring is a big move since this would surely make them a popular and people would start digging up more information about them. I just hope that they fix their Bad Reputation after doing stuffs like this although it might be just a publicity stunt to cover up their mistakes.

If they do not close the previous allegation it will have a bad impact on them only. Because running away from such things would not help until they fix it. People would be researching on internet about the site and would come to know about their previous history and this will create a bad publicity for them.


For those gamblers that don't want to be screwed again with the namesake of this site with sponsorship, just don't play on their site. I think that's the best way to avoid both of these 2 sites. Because right now, no one can validate their relationship and based from the reply of betking.com to me, they are not related. But in which, some of the users here have a point that we should not totally trust what they say.

Just wondering why they can pay a sponsorship but the owner of betking cannot pay those users who are wrecked by their site?? meaning their for this stunt is they have bad agenda regarding on running that sponsorship so best for people not to go with it and just leave those things up.

I'm sure many people don't want to cry for another refund right?

So best not to trust any related site or any tag on them.

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July 26, 2020, 11:04:57 AM
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It is either they are trying to fix their image/reputation by doing such stunt or they want to make people believe that they have funds to sponsor and in the end itvs just a cover up of their plan to scam people's money. I have found a scam site where they made people believe that they are not scammer and it is just a cover up to scam more.
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