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In 2017, CryptoKitties project has been so popular in blockchain applications. According to DappRadar, CryptoKitties users flooded ethereum’s blockchain caused Ethereum congestion and daily active users peak was reached 14,914 in December 2017. However, crytpo user lost their interests for CryptoKitties quickly as well. CryptoKitties’s daily active users for now is around 46.

Vitalik Buterin bought forward an on-chain decentralized exchanges idea called “x*y=k market maker”, k for some constant. inspired by the Vitalik, Uniswap using this constant equation to create liquidity pool which provides liquidity for ERC20 tokens, its trading volume surpassing $1.76 billion in August.

Learned from the automatic market maker and the Uniswap, I am developing a multi-chain wallet game framework call “STONE”, which would embed wallets of different protocols and connects players of different games. There are traits following:

Swapping wallets of protocols that corresponding to different games to STONE, players can login the game by wallet

Token+ Stablecoin, user can exchange token for stable coin, game points.

Automatic market maker on this multi-chain wallet

Assuming that X token is USDT(stablecoin) and Y token is the token of any projects.

If one user wants to purchase more project tokens, and it will result in a shortage of project tokens and increased the amount of USDT, meaning the price of project token will higher.

The first user that deposit two tokens provides liquidity to the wallet, but doesn’t decide the exchange rate. However, the exchange rate will change according to the deposit quantity of USDT and the project token by the first one liquidity provider. The exchange rate of USDT/TOKEN provides arbitrage opportunities for trader, the transaction fees for liquidity providers.

It's not only that , most of the time there are numerous tokens in the market and therefore it's really hard for the users to choose which one to invest in.
Many tokens stays unrecognized for a long time and eventually die. Therefore even before this what's more important is the ICO's focusing on the project , what do they have to offer that other tokens don't ?
This is always the question which attracts the Investors towards them , the market is flooded by the tokens right now , what an average Investor sees is :
Option to invest in already successful one or take a chance!!

Therefore most of the people actually try and go for the first option.

Larger Investment opportunities do provide liquidity , but at the same time I do think even the supply does determine how highs and lows are going to be there in the value.

this is a game platform, i want to develop a game platform that brings liquidity for both game and crypto markets. 

bump for interest

You have a github for this?

Sounds interesting,  But the crypto game market has no user right now. It is so hard for game developer join the Crypto world.

Who say it can't be the next Uniswap?  Demand and supply decide the price of anything.

People will choose the scam coins because they have earned from the scam coins at the beginning.  That's the market.  I know some people have no choices, they believe the scam project will become the next Bitcoin and will help them get rid of poor. They borrow money from bank and friends to invest cryptocurrency. Everyday living with paycheck to paycheck. Not everyone has the chance to make a living

Talking about your project on bitcointalk is not really a great idea, if it was for people here they would have said satoshi was an idiot for working on bitcoin before he released it if he ended up asking their advice here and they would have laughed at his face and few years later try to get as much bitcoin as they can.

However you have to actually work on something a bit further than just half a page of explanation before you can get a good review as well, even if what you are working on is bad or great it needs to be a bit further developed in, otherwise it is just an idea and we all know ideas worth absolutely zero and all ideas are horrible until execution shows how it is not bad. So I would say work on this a bit more, have some design and some details and share it again, that might get different results.

I agree with you, I also lack more information about this project, but I think this guy needs to be given the opportunity to implement a prototype and show the implementation of this idea. Overall it looks good.

I have not fully understood the concept of your project and its perspective, but the idea looks great. Many coins really need more liquidity and the gaming industry is very well suited to increase it as it develops and grows very quickly.

Can you ELI5 on how would this work with rare collectables? What incentives would the liquidity provider get? Maybe i am stupid and just don't get what you are trying to build.

Do you already have any samples of the future platform or is it just an idea so far and has not been implemented? I think you need to provide more information about your idea and its implementation. Do you have a GitHub account?

The crypto market is now overrun with low liquidity tokens, so I think your platform should have a positive impact on most of these tokens. But for an objective assessment, we need to have more information.

When are you planning to create the first workable version of your platform? So that we can evaluate its functionality and see the idea in a real product

I remember the CryptoKitties project, it was very popular then, I would say that it was a hype. But it seems to me that the problem due to which the project did not become successful was in the throughput of the Ethereum network, since it is not adapted to a large number of transactions per second, and also the commissions are too high for making micropayments. This year, commissions on the Ethereum network have broken all previous records, so I think that the launch of any projects using Ethereum should be postponed until the transition to Ethereum 2.0, then the network bandwidth will be higher and the commissions will be lower, which will have a positive effect on the development of all dApps.

I have always liked projects that are trying to combine cryptocurrencies with the gaming industry, as cryptocurrencies need liquidity and wider application, and the in-game industry is one of the fastest growing industries in the world.

Yes, you are right, it is a good idea to integrate cryptocurrencies with the gaming framework, but I would like to see more information about STONE. I saw similar frameworks, but they all had a bad implementation, let's see how this framework will be implemented.

I am interested to know which games you want to connect your framework to and perhaps you already had a conversation with game developers?

Great idea. There is only a little left. Find someone who will do all this: write code, solve legal issues, engage in promotion, etc.

The bandwidth problems of the Ethereum network have indeed caused some projects to fail to grow and scale. Therefore, everything must develop and grow at the same time.

The capitalization of stablecoins is constantly growing, so I think it is a good idea to create something like STONE and increase the liquidity of most tokens. But I would like to see how this framework will be implemented.

This actually sounds like you really know so much about this but it doesn't most of the time work that way. People will not buy a game coin just for game sake but because of other utilities it can serve. I as a person is going to follow this your project to see what becomes of it in the future.

I agree with you, for the implementation of this framework it is necessary to have knowledge in development, programming, solve legal aspects and work on marketing so that as many people as possible know about this product.

There were really many projects with an interesting idea, but not many of them managed to be implemented, so the developers still have a lot of work to do

The forum was created to discuss cryptocurrencies and projects associated with them. Therefore, it seems to me that if this project is related to cryptocurrencies, then it should be on bitcointalk. I'm interested in reading about ideas like the one suggested by the author of this topic.

I do not see any problems switching to another blockchain, now there is a large selection of different blockchains with better characteristics and more suitable for projects that require high transaction speed and low cost.

If I understand correctly, then you want to combine wallets with different chains. I'm wondering which protocol wallets do you want to connect first?

I think that the Ethereum protocol will be the first to be used based on what the author of the topic wrote at the very beginning.

I read about this "x*y=k market maker" idea in one of the posts Buterin wrote, but then it looked like just an idea that a small number of people could understand. With the advent of Uniswap, this idea has received a real shell and has shown itself in action.

STONE framework should combine several protocols, so I also think that problems should not arise. But now it's too early to talk about it, I have not yet seen the finished product.

This is correct, but before creating a prototype, it is necessary to collect enough information in this area, communicate with the developers of dApps, games and decide on a strategy, because even after creating a prototype, it will be necessary to test it.

I agree with you, I would also like to receive more information about this project in order to assess its potential and prospects for the cryptocurrency industry.

At that time, many projects did not seem as promising as they are now, so it takes time to implement this idea in a finished product in order to assess its perspective. But I have no doubt that this is a useful tool to help cryptocurrencies and the gaming industry grow.

First, developers need to start somewhere, since I still don't see an account on GitHub and start the development process

I think the developer first wants to collect community feedback that is related to decentralized games and cryptocurrencies and only then start development. It seems to me that this was the right step towards creating such a tool as a multi-chain wallet game framework.

I think you are mistaken about crypto game market having no user.  Probably you have not taken interest to the existing crypto games.  If you browse crypto games, there are many player spending their ETH, or other token to take part on that game.

I think that this development will be of interest to some game developers, as it will attract more interest in their games from the cryptocurrency community. For a long time I thought that it would be better for game developers to use cryptocurrencies that already exist on the market instead of internal currency or game points. This would increase the liquidity of most of the coins and tokens involved in games.

Do you have a prototype of your game already or it's still in the planning mode? That's an ideal game if it's able to integrate with crypto wallets and you can earn and sell your in-game tokens and exchange it to the most accepted or adopted cryptocurrency.

It will be a gamers haven if that integration and feature will come into reality. Your players will be serious about it because they have the means to exchange something valuable that they earn into real-world money through crypto.

Projects like these can really have a positive impact on the gaming and cryptocurrency industries. Therefore, I support this idea and want to see its implementation.

As a gamer, I also liked the idea of ​​this project, because it can really make the game process more interesting and, in some cases, profitable. In any case, all projects that are aimed at integrating cryptocurrencies with other industries deserve attention.

I think this idea will be positively appreciated by many gamers and owners of those tokens that have low liquidity and low scope. Such projects show that cryptocurrencies have good prospects and have an advantage over traditional money.

I agree with you, such projects are really very interesting and I also support the development of this project as I want to see a finished workable product.

It is especially worth paying attention to the fact that the popularity of stablecoins is now growing and their capitalization is also growing. Therefore, it will be a good option for exchanging, for example, USDT for game coins and other tokens.

Of course, decentralized casinos use similar technologies. Mostly I saw those casinos that use the Tron blockchain, but I think if there was a framework like STONE, it would allow the use of, for example, ERC20 tokens and many token holders would be very happy.

In addition to the gaming industry, it will have a positive effect on the cryptocurrency industry and, in the long term, on the price of ETH and other coins, the blockchains of which will be used. Cryptocurrencies need such tools as they need more new users and more adoption.

I think first you need to get more information about the plans of the developer of this framework in order to assess the perspective. I would also like to hear the opinion of game developers about this framework.

I'm not yet looking into the profitability because if it's working, it will become profitable eventually if it gets players. You have an interesting words there, it's true that integration of cryptos with other certain industries must be taken into attention.

But, wait a minute.

Why is it I'm seeing that it's like only one person and newbie accounts are replying at the same time? @OP was the one to open the idea but there's no answer from him.

I think you are right, it is difficult without a developer's answer to understand what his plans are and whether there is a further strategy, but the most important thing is that he published the idea to the public and many crypto enthusiasts, game developers and others can get acquainted with it.

So far, these are only plans and the finished product is still very far away, but before its implementation there is time to collect information and prepare the basis in order to ultimately make a quality product. I would be interested to know exactly what plans the developer has and what exactly he has already done.

Could you explain how and in what currency the fees will be charged for exchanging one coin for another and what will the developers receive as a result of this exchange?

I think the developer will take a part of the commission so that the product has constant support and development, but if this is a decentralized solution, then I think you will pay only those commissions that are required to pay the miners.

Are there games in which you could already integrate your framework, or maybe you had some communication with game developers?

The decentralized gaming industry is growing at a very fast pace and needs all sorts of frameworks, add-ons, enhancements, and more. I don't know what STONE will look like, but the idea is great.

The idea is really interesting and I think that this framework could be supplemented with some additional functions and further modernized.

No, judging from the information in the first post, this is only an idea and has not yet been implemented, so it is too early to talk about it.

You are right, but I thought that maybe the developer had some communication and there are certain agreements and support from the developers of decentralized gaming applications and platforms.

It could be supplemented by the addition of new protocols so that more tokens from different platforms can be used and exchanged for game coins.

I think Tron is better suited for these purposes than Ethereum due to its better technical characteristics.

Is your project somehow related to the now popular DeFi, or will it only be related to the decentralized games industry?

Tron is really better suited for the gaming industry, it was developed for this from the very beginning, but its popularity is lower than Ethereum and tokens on the Tron blockchain are less popular than tokens based on Ethereum.

Does the STONE platform have analogues? Perhaps there have been similar projects before or someone tried to do something similar before?

I think you might have something here...

One of my issues with all of these game developers opting to create a coin for every new game that are developed, comes with the limitation of the utility for these tokens. You can basically only use those tokens in that game and there are no real demand for that token for anything else.

It would be nice if you could get some platform like this where gamers could swap/trade coins into tokens that are more useful. You could farm tokens in a game that are easier to farm and convert those tokens into a game token where those tokens are more difficult to acquire. It would create a more streamlined market for these tokens, if a platform like this existed.  ;)

I do agree, we have nothing to discuss if there will be no demo version at least of what he is talking about. Because if only idea, then the chance that it will not ever materialize is always there. So until he can offer a much well founded concept along with the actual app, then that's the time that we can discuss about this idea of him.

As far as I know, there are no similar frameworks in the field of decentralized games, so I find STONE an interesting solution that has a real prospect of being created and integrated into most decentralized games.

I didn't see it either, so I decided to clarify, maybe someone has already seen something similar. I believe that the decentralized gaming industry is very young and requires solutions like STONE and others. All these developments have a positive impact on cryptocurrencies and the development of decentralized applications.

I agree with you, the decentralized games industry will get an additional impetus for development thanks to such solutions. Cryptocurrencies will also receive more interest from gamers and investors due to increased liquidity.

Can this technology only be applied to decentralized games? This technology cannot be applied to centralized games that already exist, right? Or is it technically possible to do it?

Some games have their own internal points, which could be exchanged for USDT (TRC20 and ERC20). This would increase the value of the game and the points that can be earned in it. It would also be possible to use existing cryptocurrencies in order not to create new ones, of which there are already quite a lot.

You are right, the idea is interesting, but we need a test version of the platform or at least a development plan for this platform. Without this, it is difficult to assess its potential and understand whether there is a chance to realize it. I also saw many interesting ideas, but not many of them were able to implement.

I think this is not possible when it comes to centralized games. Because we are talking specifically about centralized protocols and connecting wallets according to the principle of Metamask, TrustWallet and other wallets.

It seems that the STONE platform is a platform that is very rarely developed, and I have even tried to find out about the information from the STONE platform, but I found only a few, meaning that the STONE platform has not been developed well for now.

There are already many decentralized games in which the function of exchanging for example TRX for internal game tokens is implemented, but this is not enough. Therefore, I think that the STONE platform will solve a number of issues related to the exchange of tokens and increase their liquidity.

I also did not find information on this platform on the Internet and did not find analogues of this platform so that I could compare and draw some conclusions. I think this is because the idea is very young and has not yet received sufficient development.

The reason why you could not find the information is that this platform does not exist yet. And STONE is presented so far only in the form of an idea that could be implemented. As a gamer, I like the idea and would like to see it and use it.

you can trade these tokens on an exchange  . the tokens nature is on video games so it's normal that the tokens will only be used this way  . We can't say that these tokens will also be used on the mainstream market but there are tokens that are also built for that  .

This is possible and I saw many concept like this where you can trade inside the game . About farming/earning tokens inside a game , i like that too but I don't think they will allow it because that will only lead to abuse and gamers will only depend on it instead of buying the tokens .

I prefer Ethereum over TRX as it suits me better. If the STONE platform is implemented, it will greatly facilitate the use of cryptocurrencies in decentralized games.

I'm also a fan of decentralized games and know a lot about the downsides of this industry, so I turned my attention to this platform. But the author did not provide enough information about his plans for development, so it is difficult to assess the future capabilities and functionality of this platform.

I think that the STONE platform will allow you to use the same tokens in games that are traded on well-known exchanges, as well as exchange them with each other. It is very convenient and will be useful for the entire cryptocurrency industry and for the gaming industry.

I have not seen similar projects in the industry of decentralized games, so there is no way to learn from experience and mistakes. Perhaps there were attempts to implement something like that, but it did not come to the implementation of the finished product. The STONE developer will have to independently test the platform and fix bugs that he will encounter.

There are special people for testing, or they can release the beta version and give everyone the opportunity to test it, as other developers do. I hope that in addition to Ethereum, the EOS, NEO, Stellar and Tron protocols will be integrated into this platform.

Of course, this is the main idea of ​​the project so that you can use tokens already existing on the market and not create new ones.

Of course, I understand this, most likely the developer will do so. But I need more information, because now I do not know whether this idea will be implemented or not. If yes, then I wonder when exactly.

If this project has a website? Maybe there is some kind of press release of the project or other documentation?

There is still nothing of what you have listed, since this is just an idea of ​​what could be created. Wait for the developer's response in this thread, I think he will tell you everything.

I saw a discussion of something similar on one of the social networks, but here I saw more information. I would like to see the finished product.

You will see if nothing hinders the implementation of this project and the developer has enough finance and knowledge to implement it

Do you have funding and those who will write the code for this framework? I would also like to clarify if you have any agreements with the developers of decentralized games?

I'm also interested in this, but unfortunately the author of this idea did not provide more information on this matter. All that we have can be found in the first post of this topic.

I think these are important questions, which were also important to point out at the beginning. But if this has not been indicated, it can be said that there is still no funding and no agreements. But this is not a problem if there is an understanding of the further strategy.

Funding can be found if you present not just an idea, but also a plan for its development. Many projects died at the initial stage of development, but the reason was that the team could not correctly draw up a project development plan.

You are right, in order to finance something, you first need to assess the prospects and the possible profit that can be obtained from such an investment.

If I understand correctly, will the developer of this framework receive some kind of commission? Or how should the project be profitable?

Yes, there should be a small fee for maintaining the network and covering costs. But I'm not sure how this will be implemented.

I think that there is no website since the development of the project has not yet begun and there is not even a strategy for creating and developing the project yet. In fact, having just an idea is not enough to make a successful project.

Hello to all members, Is there more chances to growth in the altcoins in upcoming days? I meant to say As like DeFi it just reaches to peak and drop down due market influences.
Am new to the trading events so am here to takes the ideas of fluctuations in the different crypto and altcoins.

I agree with you, the idea is not enough, some kind of plan and strategy for further development is needed. I already know several decentralized games in which it would be possible to use the idea that STONE offers, so I see a perspective in this project.

I also know several such games and I would like to see something similar to the STONE platform implemented in these games. But I have no idea how it should look and how easy it will be to exchange tokens.

Now it is difficult to say something with certainty, since the crypto market is changing every minute. If you are interested in prices in the crypto market, then it is better to turn to the "Trading" section of the forum, which discusses similar issues, strategies and much more.

I think that the wallet will be as easy to use as Metamask and the process of exchanging tokens will be no more difficult than atomic swaps, which are already implemented and work well.

Now the entire crypto market is falling, this is not the best time for development in the field of cryptocurrencies. If the price of bitcoin drops below, then many projects will freeze their developments.

You are right, the entire market has collapsed and this has always negatively affected developments in the crypto area. But I think that the development of STONE doesn't require a lot of funding and the excitement in the cryptocurrency markets will not affect its development.

If the author of this idea has free time, little funding and programming knowledge, then he will be able to create this platform himself with minimal cost. But he can find among the enthusiasts those who will help create and test the platform.

I hope this framework will be easy to use, otherwise many will not be able to use it. The cryptocurrency industry needs simple tools that will improve it and make them easier for novice users to access.

The market changes every day, yesterday there was a fall, and today it is growing again. Therefore, I think that price fluctuations should not affect the development of the project and its testing.

The development of projects is influenced only by the amount of funding and the professionalism of the team. The services of this platform will definitely be popular among gamers and crypto enthusiasts. But a lot depends on how exactly it will look in finished form.

Have similar frameworks been previously implemented or was this idea first published?

I have not previously seen the framework exactly in the form in which the author of the article wants to create it. There are some platforms, but they are created on only one protocol and are limited in their functionality.

If you mean creating value for internal game points and coins, then I have not seen such platforms too. STONE could attract new gamers and increase the liquidity of some tokens, which would have a positive impact on the entire crypto market.

In theory, yes, liquidity should increase, but before the introduction of this framework in the decentralized gaming industry, it is difficult to say with certainty what impact this platform will have on the liquidity of tokens and the development of the gaming industry.

I think that this platform will be useful primarily for decentralized casinos, as many of them have their own game coins that need the exchange capabilities that the STONE platform can provide.

You are right, I know one decentralized casino that has internal coins, but now they cannot be exchanged for, for example, usdt or other tokens. I think the STONE platform will greatly help many game developers if it is implemented.

I think that it would be useful for the developer of framework STONE to talk with the developers of this casino, perhaps this would be the first decentralized game to which this framework would be connected.

This is just one of the possible uses for this framework. But I would like to hear from the developer about his plans for the development of this platform and its connection to games.

I think it is worth waiting for information from the developer and then it will be possible to discuss the prospects of the project and its future demand in the decentralized games market. Now we can only guess what will happen.

One of the positive features of this platform is the exchange of tokens for stablecoins, this will help in the development of not only the gaming industry, but also the cryptocurrency industry as a whole.

It is true, the ability to exchange tokens for stablecoin is one of the most significant advantages of this platform. But you need to see the prototype so you can test it.

Guys, it's too early to draw conclusions, wait for the answer of the topic's author, then everything will become clear. I also have many questions like you, but I am sure that this framework deserves attention.

Yes, you are right, this is good advice, it is better to wait for an answer to our questions so as not to have a conversation about what we do not know well. I am as sure as you are that this idea will be realized.

I would like to receive an answer regarding the agreements with the creators of decentralized games and what plans he has for the development of the framework. This would help everyone appreciate the potential of the platform.