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Title: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: protrader786 on August 20, 2020, 12:17:05 PM
Hello,

I was wondering, if there is a mobile wallet that will allow me to recieve and send funds via the same recieving and sending address again and again.
The ones that I've used change address automatically everytime for the privacy and thier algorithm is specified to do so. [Used: Blockchain wallet, coinomi, edge, mycelium]
The drawback that I am facing is I am able to sign a message only once via one adress and unable to do so again since it changes.

Any or all suggestions are highly appreciated.

Thank you.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: Findingnemo on August 20, 2020, 12:23:20 PM
You can use electrum if you want to show the same address, and also you can choose different address whenever you want if you want from the available addresses on the address option.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: mocacinno on August 20, 2020, 12:29:28 PM
Electrum is defenately a good candidate, however, i think there's a little misunderstanding from the OP's side:

Those wallets you listed are all HD wallets, addresses get derived from a master key, each time an old address gets used, a new one gets derived (actually, most of these wallets pre-derive a certain amount of addresses beforehand). However, these wallets do not delete the previous private keys/public keys/addresses once they're used. You can keep on using the same address, your wallet should still be able to sign transactions and messages funding/using previous addresses.

I quickly installed coinomi, created a testnet wallet, funded the first address, created a second address, then tried to sign a message using the first address, and it works like a charm. PS: i'm not a big fan of coinomi, i was just testing it out really quick.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: xxjumperxx on August 20, 2020, 12:42:02 PM
Yeah, Electrum is a good one, but it works only on Android. If you have an iPhone, use Jaxx.

Thanks for the recommendation!
I was looking for a mobile wallet on iPhone and thought Electrum was just not available in the german App Store!


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: daneal stev on August 20, 2020, 12:44:46 PM
I do not think that there is any problem if one of the wallets that I mentioned changes its address after each withdrawal of the blockchain wallet, and the other wallets mentioned are the most important and best wallets and the most used wallets, and I want to point out to you that you can use the old address even if it was changed inside the wallet. All of these addresses are linked to a single private key that can never be changed And if you want to use a different wallet than the ones I mentioned, you can use the Electrum wallet, as the other members have told you


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: jossiel on August 20, 2020, 02:09:14 PM
Even if you have used that address, you can still use it again to receive transfers. It won't go anywhere, it's still on the same wallet. But to remove your worries, I'll reckon the suggestion for Electrum. It's one of the best.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: protrader786 on August 20, 2020, 03:20:47 PM
Thanks for the info and recommendations. Electrum looks like my next destination.

Also I am now member rank xD. Been a crazy roller coaster ride 😅


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: The Cryptovator on August 20, 2020, 03:43:49 PM
Thanks for the info and recommendations. Electrum looks like my next destination.
Yea, I think so Electrum is a better option for you. Just make sure you have downloaded original software from the original website. Don't forget to verify Signature as well. Keep your seed in a safe place, write on multiple papers, and keep on multiple places as well. Don't store your seed in any online machine or don't share it with anybody. Anyway, use the same address, again and again, isn't a very good idea. But yes, you may sign a message from all the addresses from Electrum including.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: bob123 on August 20, 2020, 04:45:23 PM
Using mycelium without an HD wallet is an option too.
You could just create a wallet with a single private key and therefore a single address.

I don't know what your specific use case is, but this way you can have your signed message and always use the same address (as change address too).


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: joniboini on August 20, 2020, 04:56:36 PM
If you're still looking for option, Trust Wallet should be on your list, especially if you're looking for multi-currency mobile wallet. Always do your DD though.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: BitMaxz on August 20, 2020, 09:02:18 PM
Thanks for the info and recommendations. Electrum looks like my next destination.

If you are going to use Electrum and don't want to use change addresses don't forget to disable it.
You can find it under the 3 dots then settings and it should be looks like this

https://i.imgur.com/ITw8G6U.png

Set it to no to disable it.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: fer_coinomi on August 21, 2020, 04:21:35 AM
Coinomi will show a new address on the "receive" screen but you can continue using the old one to receive indefinitely. You can also sign messages from the app using any of your addresses. If it's also required that when you *send* that the coins come from that same address, the only way to make sure that this will happen is to send your balance to yourself first, then send the coins out. If any of your transactions have change, they will go to a new change address every time, so you would have to send the change back to the required address. I'm not familiar with any service that has that requirement, though.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: Findingnemo on August 21, 2020, 07:04:23 AM
Thanks for the info and recommendations. Electrum looks like my next destination.

Also I am now member rank xD. Been a crazy roller coaster ride 😅
Just a note to you fella, yesterday only I updated my electrum on PC because I rarely use them nowadays when I noticed the receiving address is not visible until you click the requestBTC button and don't forget that to set the address expiry to never to keep using the same address again in the future.

Congrats for your rank up, its just the first stem to become legendary still a long way to climb. ;D


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: pooya87 on August 21, 2020, 07:39:02 AM
I noticed the receiving address is not visible until you click the requestBTC button and don't forget that to set the address expiry to never to keep using the same address again in the future.

but you should still be able to go to your addresses tab and see all your addresses anyways. the receive tab isn't really needed in first place. in fact i think it is one of the most confusing features of Electrum wallet specially with the request option and its expiry.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: Assface16678 on August 21, 2020, 12:17:11 PM
I highly recommended the use of the electrum wallet because it has a lot of features you would like to enjoy and learn some of these are the :

A lot of bitcoin address "bc1"
The lever to your transaction fee
Adjust your transaction fee
Description
Confirmation status

These are the common things you could learn, so try it now but still be careful to that platform which is pretending the mobile electrum.



Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: mu_enrico on August 21, 2020, 01:08:44 PM
coinomi
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The drawback that I am facing is I am able to sign a message only once via one adress and unable to do so again since it changes.
You can sign with your previously used addresses with Coinomi.

https://i.ibb.co/0hYGz3Y/coinomi.jpg

On the "Signing address" text area, simply put any addresses, including Bech32 address, and it is still valid if someone uses electrum to verify it. Type your message, leave signature empty, and sign.

PS: I'm not encouraging people to use Coinomi DYOR & DWYOR.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: Magd solieman on August 21, 2020, 04:19:30 PM
The Electrum wallet allows you to send and receive currencies without changing the address, but I think that changing the address is better because it prevents others from tracking your transactions through your transfer address


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: LbtalkL on August 22, 2020, 01:48:04 PM
Which blockchain are you talking about bitcoin, eth? the changing address does not apply to every coins in that particular wallet. If you are talking about bitcoin I am having same experience with coinomi before but I figure it out that you can always use the previous address even if it changes that was before I don't know now. I suggest using Trustwallet their bitcoin address is only one in both receiving and sending. But you need to export your private keys to use it to sign message and 3rd party site to sign it. Trustwallet gives you only recovery phrase but you can convert that to pk using iancoleman but do it offline. Trustwallet is an alternative, Electrum is the best option no hassle.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: nakamura12 on August 23, 2020, 10:51:07 AM
That would be very hard to answer your question since you did not mention which crypto yoi are going to receive and send to another wallet. For electrum, you can install it on your phone which you can change in the settings to use only one address to receive funds, I have also use imtoken for erc20 and eth and many more.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: Chikito on August 23, 2020, 12:36:47 PM
Which blockchain are you talking about bitcoin, eth?
That would be very hard to answer your question since you did not mention which crypto yoi are going to receive and send to another wallet.

OP mentioned electrum to the next destination, for sure his mean Bitcoin. Also, on HD wallet Ethereum address never changes every transaction.

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Ethereum addresses do not change for every transaction, as individual ERC-20 tokens need to be tied to a specific address which contains ETH in order to be sent out of that particular wallet.

https://support.edge.app/support/solutions/articles/8000059534-why-does-my-receiving-address-keep-changing-


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: coupable on August 23, 2020, 07:10:13 PM
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Ethereum addresses do not change for every transaction, as individual ERC-20 tokens need to be tied to a specific address which contains ETH in order to be sent out of that particular wallet.

https://support.edge.app/support/solutions/articles/8000059534-why-does-my-receiving-address-keep-changing-
Going further talking about Eth, recently, i have created a topic looking for a wallet app for Eth that gives user the possibility to create many Eth addresses and let him swith easly between them. Unfortunetly, it seems there is no single app that provides this feature although it's a promising one.
The only option i found is creating a wallet using the Mnemonic phrase in MyEtherWallet which gives the ability to have many eth addresses, but each time you want to move from one address to another, it's required to provide again the full Mnemonic phrase.

Link to my topic:  Ethereum wallet giving multiple addresses. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265002.)


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: Ryker1 on August 23, 2020, 09:00:13 PM
That would be very hard to answer your question since you did not mention which crypto yoi are going to receive and send to another wallet. For electrum, you can install it on your phone which you can change in the settings to use only one address to receive funds, I have also use imtoken for erc20 and eth and many more.
Well, perhaps that is bitcoin.
I am using coinomi app wallet for how many years and there is no problem I got even though others have difficulties using it and many of them have technical errors on this wallet app. You can still sign the message on Coinomi with your old address upon the creation of the wallet. However, as as suggested above, I agree with the electrum wallet app. That is a very recommended wallet and the safest free wallet. Most people here don't use coinomi but if you will like multi-wallet that can store altcoin perhaps you can use this.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: khaled0111 on August 23, 2020, 09:37:57 PM
You can use any reputable wallet for this.
And as suggested above, disabling the "use change address" feature will do the trick. The only inconvinience is when using a hd wallet this will not stop it from generating a new receiving address when the current one has been used and you may mistakenly give the newly generated address to the sender.

To solve this, choose one of your wallet's addresses, export its private key and import it to a new wallet. This way you can rest assured that you will be always using the same address for both sending and receiving.


Title: Re: [Help]Mobile wallet
Post by: Xembin on August 23, 2020, 10:01:12 PM
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Hello,

I was wondering, if there is a mobile wallet that will allow me to recieve and send funds via the same recieving and sending address again and again.
The ones that I've used change address automatically everytime for the privacy and thier algorithm is specified to do so. [Used: Blockchain wallet, coinomi, edge, mycelium]
The drawback that I am facing is I am able to sign a message only once via one adress and unable to do so again since it changes.

Any or all suggestions are highly appreciated.

Thank you.
Just try electrum wallet , you will be able to have access to address, trust wallet should be on your list, especially if you're looking for a multi currency mobile wallet.