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To whom it may concern:

The Department of Homeland Security reminds you that it is time to lock all threads beginning with 'L' and ending with 'e'.

you people should start a quote tower
also you can contribute to the prize pool here: 17tAMizvL41EHoMVhiNPKeH493FZxTk3pn

Does 6/1 mean january 6 (which is what I assumed) or June 1? I heard americans like to use MM/DD format.

Also everyone, my posts don't count, so I can't pull an Atlas.

June 1, lol
I could be giving away $5000!

So, you mean "June 1, lol, as if I would wait that long!" or "June 1, lol, as if I would mean january :P"

Or $0.25 you never know.

Now I just have to pay off a mod to lock the thread and then wait. :evil:

locked

It will end June 1.

january 6th?

Maybe.

Is it just me, or is something wrong with the above?

Something is wrong with the above.

Last post.

derp.

herp.

Bwagner: I was just going to post that! That page is part of a very good introduction to the EC math. The start of that intro is here: http://www.certicom.com/index.php/10-introduction

netrin: An analogy with "baby numbers" would go somewhat like this. I have to abstract some cryptography properties though.

Person A comes up with a number, say 13, and calls this private key 1. He then calculates the public key, which is (for example) "accb". This public key has the property that it can be easily calculated from the private key, but it also has the property that if you only know "accb", then there is no way to find out the private key was 13, unless you bruteforce all numbers by calculating the public key to all of them.
Person B comes up with a number, say 41, and calls this private key 2. He then calculates the public key, which is (for example) "bbbb".


Person A gets the public key from Person B, and adds it to his own: "accb" + "bbbb" = "cddd"
Person B gets the public key from Person A, and adds it to his own: "bbbb" + "accb" = "cddd"

Now they both have the public key "cddd", so they can send money to that public key. To retrieve the money, however, you need to have the private key.
The private key to "cddd" is 13 + 41 = 54. But no one knows this!

That's roughly how you create a private key that no one knows.



I would like to note that this is NOT diffie-hellman secret generation, as far as I know! Neither party knows the private key here, and in fact, any attacker listening to the network could know the private key too. This doesn't matter too much though, since the private key is what you need to get the money. EC diffie-hellman looks similar but is slightly different. In fact it's more like what ByteCoin described early on in the thread. In order not to confuse the thread/topic, I'll just link to the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic_curve_Diffie%E2%80%93Hellman

Wrong thread?

Not really.

Oh, ok.

Yeah, you see, you're not so easily fooled, I guess.

:)

Been nice talking to you though.

You take care now. :)

Will do!

Okay, talk to you soon!

I hope not…

Ok. Enough is enough.

Sorry, what?

I meant to imply I wasn't going to post here any more....  But I guess that didn't work. :)

That's up to you, though.

You're absolutely right.

Duh.

Well, now why didn't I think of that?

Let's sing:

Come they told me, pa rum pum pum pum

I skimmed it, but I must have missed that.  Thanks.

I'm not a Java expert, but it would appear to be possible by interfacing with native OS APIs.  For example, on Windows, use JNI or JNA to call native Windows API functions to monitor battery status. Native calls could also be investigated for Linux and OSX.

Calling OS API functions from Java:
JNA http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2389156/calling-win32-api-method-from-java
JNI http://www.atwistedweb.com/java/jni.html

Windows Battery API functions:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3154554/how-do-i-get-battery-information-in-windows
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/233446/monitor-battery-charge-with-win32-api

I'm not saying it's easy or even possible at this point, but I think it warrants a bit more investigation.

You're welcome.

I call Shenanigans  ;D

The miner actually works!

Another question for ineededausername:

What if I posted exactly on 2012-06-01 00:00:00 (according to the forum, basically posting before 00:00:01)? Does this qualify as "before"?

Why would that be "before?"  Before is equivalent to "<" not "<=". 
(On that note, does English have a word for <= when it comes to time? :P)

up to and including <time> ??

I agree.

I agree.

I agree too.  :D

Necroing is not allowed.

bet: this thread will be on page 10 of "off-topic" by 2/29/2012...

Betting is not allowed.

I'm beginning to think that 5btc might be a nice chunk of money by 6/1/12 :)

Could be :) You still have it set aside?

yep it's safe :)

Good.

Here's mine!

OP you can now lock the thread 'til June 1st.

 8)

I agree with Ryan da Clem. Lock the thread immediately.

Basically no one sells for paypal, because of a large risk of getting scammed.
If you're in Europe though, you can easily send money from your online bank account to any other person in Europe, without it costing anything (so that's cheaper than paypal). If you're interested, send me a message.

Happy Christmas Eve guys!  8)

lol... I'm thinking of earning a profit off selling or auctioning a thread lock... trying to resist the temptation. xD

edit: AUCTION

Rules:
1. I can do whatever the fuck I want to this auction.  However, I will probably not exercise this right.
2. You are bidding on the right to decide when to lock this thread.
3. If I lock the thread too late, tough luck.  Too early, I'll reopen it if you PM me and extend the thread's expiry time by the amount of time lost.
4. This is a dollar auction.  Top two bidders must both pay their bids.
5. Bidding starts at 2.5 BTC.
6. Bidding ends when nobody has placed a bid for 72 hours.
7. Specify your thread lock time in the format: mm/dd/yyyy HH:MM:SS (24hr GMT forum time).  Any times not in this format will be ignored.

edit: Oops, had to exercise rule #1 already.  Adding this rule:

8. Minimum bid increment is 0.1 BTC.

Why lock the actual thread? Couldn't you just ignore posts after a cetain point?

Trolololololo!

No, because I've already said that the last post wins 5 BTC, and I can't modify that rule now.  I never said I couldn't lock the thread though :P

Paying you in this dollar auction is such a bad idea :p

Evil.

Yup.

I'll give every below poster 10 BTC to delete their post under the condition that I am not aware of the post - and do not become aware of it in any circumstance.

Which means no one is getting 10 bitcoin, if I'm not mistaken.

Indeed, he would have to be aware of it to be paying out for the deletion of it. 

Or we wipe his mind somehow.

I thought I would snipe this reward on 2012-05-31, but maybe this post will go unnoticed...

I didn't see it...

Then I didn't need to respond.

Ok.

you people are still at it?

bwaha

Naw, I quit ages ago, but then these people brought this up again.

I did not post in this topic.

Me neither

Once upon a time there were two

Not this again

the first "Not this again" said

Next person to post is a douche.

I'm a douche.

 :D

wow, people are still keeping this alive! :D

Kill it in 3... 2.... 1.... NOW!

Actually it's been dead 3 times already.

This was the 4^th time.

Hey, why don't you leave well enough alone!?

Didn't your mommy never tell you to necro?

oh hell no, it's still going :)

at least I know how much I'll be paying out.  It'll probably be close to $25 :P

next poster has a chode.

Previous poster has a mangina.

watch how quickly this statement proves false...

Basically no one sells for paypal, because of a large risk of getting scammed.
If you're in Europe though, you can easily send money from your online bank account to any other person in Europe, without it costing anything (so that's cheaper than paypal). If you're interested, send me a message.

 ;)

There is an easy method to calculate the slope of linear equations.

For equations of the form y = a x + b = 0, the slope equals 'a' (the coefficient of 'x').
This is better than choosing points and calculating differences don't you think ?
Just one more quick example - what is the slope of 5y = -3x + 7 ?
Since the equation has to be of the form y = ax +b then
y = -3/5 x + 7/5 and so the slope = -3/5.

Oh

 >:( how to hide this thread?

iunno

LOL

I wouldn't be surprised if this thread becomes perpetual starting... now.

Can't we change the conditions, to the person having the last post for the longest, counting all the times between posts?

Hint: I'd win.

Posting for shits and giggles.

Don't we all, don't we all.

Not myself, no.

Oh.

Perhaps while everyone is distracted with the bitcoinica debacle... ;)

Not me!

What bitcoinica debacle?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=81045.0

Nasty

Yep

Basically no one sells for paypal, because of a large risk of getting scammed.
If you're in Europe though, you can easily send money from your online bank account to any other person in Europe, without it costing anything (so that's cheaper than paypal). If you're interested, send me a message.

what

huh

...

Very confusing thread..

Correct.

It's quite simple actually. Good reasons for everything, insightful posts, etc.

I win, wheres my prize?

A categorical proposition is a part of deductive reasoning that contains two categorical terms, the subject and the predicate, and affirms or denies the latter of the former.[1] Categorical propositions occur in categorical syllogisms and both are discussed in Aristotle's Prior Analytics.

Examples:

    Midshipman Davis serves on H.M.S. Invincible. (subject: Midshipman Davis; predicate: serves on H.M.S. Invincible)
    Some politicians are corrupt. (subject: politicians; predicate: corruptness)
    Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM. (subject: people; predicate: getting fired for buying IBM)

The subject and predicate are called the terms of the proposition. The subject is what the proposition is about. The predicate is what the proposition affirms or denies about the subject. A categorical proposition thus claims something about things or ways of being: it affirms or denies something about something else.

Categorical propositions are distinguished from hypothetical propositions (if-then statements that connect propositions rather than terms) and disjunctive propositions (either-or statements, claiming exclusivity between propositions).

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This.

Horse horse horse horse horse horsing around.

Not this again. Just let this thread die.

noooooo

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Yesyes, the bitcoin forum. Beenthere Donethat.

Hmm. I wonder if I can slide in a comment disguised as another thread?

Can't be done.

I c wat u did thar, trying to get the top post errytime.

EDIT: Now I'm on top :P

shiet

Basically no one sells for paypal, because of a large risk of getting scammed.
If you're in Europe though, you can easily send money from your online bank account to any other person in Europe, without it costing anything (so that's cheaper than paypal).. If you're interested, send me a message.

BTFY (Broke That For You) ;D

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In it to win it !

Go!
UTC+8 will be used to decide time.

Something ain't right.

(FYI: UTC = UMT+12)

Aw don't give it away :(

I did. I killed it before. It was dead for weeks.

Then someone had to revive it :/

Blaming me? How could you!

You couldn't really expect it to remain dead for the remaining life of the thread now, could you?

I expected it to remain dead until 2012-05-31T23:59 forum time, at which I will have posted my finale post.

Expect… no. But maybe hope :)

False hope is never a good thing. Never hope for anything that's impossible :P.

[locked]

I win.

183AEsFA3xNqMkCdHT8QGp4jzaDLXoigZ8

Har dee har har.

Herp derp herp herp.

?

You won you derp.

Eh, what about Lord Frog then? Didn't he win?

Snipe, good lord. 11 minutes late on my part.

I didn't even realize it was June already :P

Same here. I even had an alarm set up, and alas I dismissed it like any other alarm.

Goddammit, it's still May over here

like the OP said:

Where do you live? With DST in most of the Northern Hemisphere, I assume west of Newfoundland, or South America.

Nah, you won.

Son of a bitch.   :D

It really looks to me like Lord Frog won.

Wasn't he an hour late?

I hate time zones, damn them.

nope, just in time

8 seconds, very nicely done ;)

thx, sayed awake allnitelong to get this

now, may OP please confirm the kill?

Just send him a PM. I'm sure he'll honor his promise :)

I live on the NE coast of the US

pm already sent, prepare for judgement

Alright, Lord Frog, time for you to post an address :)
By the way, sorry for being so late. 

no sweat, I'm mostly of phlegmatic temper. thx

pm'd

sent!

a man of his word! thanks