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Title: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: NotATether on September 16, 2020, 02:16:30 PM There was a brief total internet shutdown over here today that lasted for a few hours. All of the ISPs cut off internet access for some reason and then restored it back. It reminded me of the time mobile internet access was shut down for almost three months last year. Obviously they didn't touch broadband lines so that they didn't disrupt company operations and bring economic selling to a halt. But I have a reason to believe that civilians deprived of internet access is dangerous for companies trying to make a profit.
In third-world countries, companies rely on social media platforms like Facebook for their marketing, advertising and to attract new customers. By shutting off internet access, you are effectively drying up their revenue streams, which cannot continue for too long (like for the course of months), or all of them will start reporting losses. Nearly all people here use 4G or 3G internet on their SIM cards, and not a router. So the more people using mobile internet in a country, the more drastic the consequences of an internet shutdown are for companies. Other countries appear to be importing Sudan's internet shutdown techniques (India (https://internetshutdowns.in/in-news), Ethiopia (https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/-internet-shutdown-cost-ethiopia-over-100m-netblocks-1906706)) but surely they have to know that by shutting down the internet, they are reducing company sales. Sure the company's operations themselves aren't affected, but how are they supposed to sustain them without sales? Of course a company that ships physical goods isn't affected by an internet shutdown, but they still lose their social media marketing abilities, because no one can read them. Seriously though, does anyone happen to know the cause for the loss of internet today? Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: jackg on September 16, 2020, 02:29:14 PM Loss of Internet isn't really good for citizens or companies alike.
And yeah corporations might be affected if they have to export stuff too and the shutdown lasts a while? Unless things are verbally arranged with freight and Air operators. I think reducing Internet everywhere (including Europe and the US) would also cause a huge loss of company profits, sure the large companies can get TV and Radio adverts but smaller companies might be fully reliant in social media... Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: oHnK on September 16, 2020, 05:11:41 PM Nowdays, corporate really need internet for operational support for especially in marketing. The way to promote their corporate have changed from conventional to digital. When government shutdown internet for any reason, it will sacrifice many things. Corporate will get the worst effect of loss internet. There are much values of money in every seconds we passed from internet traffic. Conventional business have moved on to digital, during the pandemic the internet really help business in marketing. They use internet to keep the connection with costumers. They move from the old way to digital way in service for keep their costumers. Shutdown internet really bad policy if we looked at marketing side.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Upgrade00 on September 16, 2020, 05:32:02 PM Asides the economic effect, it is a violation of human rights as people can not freely communicate. Gagging the [Social] media is a means of censorship used to control the citizens and quell protests or revolts.
On the economic effect; the internet has become a major factor in Small and Medium Enterprises, and this is the sector that drives an economy. Markets are also interconnected, hence, SMEs are dependent on Large cooperations and vice versa, shutting down the internet would have a general effect regardless of whether there is a backdoor for select businesses. The except below is taken from an article posted in 2019 and gives a rough idea of the impact of an internet shutdown; The Cost of Shutdown tool developed by Netblocks and the Internet Society estimates that five days of a total Internet shutdown in Sudan — which the country is currently experiencing — will result in an accumulated economic loss of $228,924,285. You can find the tool here - https://netblocks.org/cost/I think, If a government doesn't consider the rights of its citizens, then it is possible the economic impact of a censorship would equally not be considered. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Findingnemo on September 16, 2020, 05:38:36 PM Government don't shutdown the internet on the whole country, they are doing it in the particular region right? So not much of the economic activities are going to get affected and internet has been shutdown normally to stop the communication between local people and outside people so no one other than people there knows exactly what is happening and this is normally implemented in tension between military and locals.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: AjithBtc on September 16, 2020, 06:01:24 PM Each and everything is now associated with internet, when there is some issue with internet automatically big loss is being experienced by every functional sector. In my country internet shutdowns takes place at times of protest, because the gathering of people were organised through the social media platforms. Corporate marketing generate majority of the revenue through the firms.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Silberman on September 16, 2020, 06:06:17 PM While there is not doubt that such a thing will affect business negatively if the Internet was out just for a few hours then most likely this was not the result of some kind of desire from the government to stall communications over the Internet and most likely there was something wrong within the network that needed to be fixed and the only way to do this was by shutting down the Internet, however since there seems to be a previous history of these kind of tactics being employed in your country then it is important to be careful, is there something happening in your country that could make the government do something like this, like massive protests being arranged on social media?
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: audaciousbeing on September 16, 2020, 09:13:15 PM Before internet, people have been doing business and there are even companies that have survived for centuries and during those dark days, that was when they witnessed some of their massive growth. Internet comes with its own advantage but it does not means that without it, people wont still find a way to transact and do business with one another. Now when government shut down the internet, while businesses whose existence relied on that, they would surely have their reason for doing that and that is what the citizens needs to find out whether their reasons are valid or not.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: NotATether on September 16, 2020, 09:24:09 PM Government don't shutdown the internet on the whole country, they are doing it in the particular region right? That's only the case for India's Kashmir province, they can't afford the fallout of doing a countrywide shutdown like Sudan and Ethiopia did. India's entire tech sector and every company's offshore ops in India would be severed if they did that. It seems that the less important your country is to world affairs, the easier it is for its leaders to get away with this stuff. UPDATE: They did it again this morning for a couple of hours. First both of the Zain MiFis stopped connecting, then our Sudani SIM cards ceased shortly after. This was definitely a deliberate shutdown, because the chance of all four devices failing at once is slim. This kind of service, which we're paying for, is not acceptable, and I'm thinking about contacting their support desks to ask what's going on. I really hope this is not going to be the normal way of life. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Silberman on September 21, 2020, 06:40:38 PM Before internet, people have been doing business and there are even companies that have survived for centuries and during those dark days, that was when they witnessed some of their massive growth. Internet comes with its own advantage but it does not means that without it, people wont still find a way to transact and do business with one another. Now when government shut down the internet, while businesses whose existence relied on that, they would surely have their reason for doing that and that is what the citizens needs to find out whether their reasons are valid or not. It is true that businesses existed before the Internet but right now many of them depend on the Internet to reduce costs and to be more effective if you take it away then things will get ugly really fast, just think of restaurants, for the most part people are avoiding restaurants where I live but they have been able to remain open thanks to services like Uber Eats that allow you to order from them, if that is taken away I can assure you they will collapse in a matter of weeks or months and that is never good for the economy.Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Serious475 on September 22, 2020, 11:07:38 AM Today internet is one of the most needed by the companies and other things not only in businesses internet are one of the most essential thing because most of the progress today are with the use of it.
1. On business They are using their internet to keep.active their databases and other stuffs connected with the internet. 2. Schools Today this is the most needed because of this covid some of the school require having to their online class. Some of the schools too are moving forward with the use of the File cabinet storage of their files. They are using with the internet too. If the internet will gone it becomes one of the most disaster could happen into a specific place. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: cheezcarls on September 22, 2020, 12:07:55 PM There was a brief total internet shutdown over here today that lasted for a few hours. All of the ISPs cut off internet access for some reason and then restored it back. It reminded me of the time mobile internet access was shut down for almost three months last year. Obviously they didn't touch broadband lines so that they didn't disrupt company operations and bring economic selling to a halt. But I have a reason to believe that civilians deprived of internet access is dangerous for companies trying to make a profit. In third-world countries, companies rely on social media platforms like Facebook for their marketing, advertising and to attract new customers. By shutting off internet access, you are effectively drying up their revenue streams, which cannot continue for too long (like for the course of months), or all of them will start reporting losses. Nearly all people here use 4G or 3G internet on their SIM cards, and not a router. So the more people using mobile internet in a country, the more drastic the consequences of an internet shutdown are for companies. Other countries appear to be importing Sudan's internet shutdown techniques (India (https://internetshutdowns.in/in-news), Ethiopia (https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/-internet-shutdown-cost-ethiopia-over-100m-netblocks-1906706)) but surely they have to know that by shutting down the internet, they are reducing company sales. Sure the company's operations themselves aren't affected, but how are they supposed to sustain them without sales? Of course a company that ships physical goods isn't affected by an internet shutdown, but they still lose their social media marketing abilities, because no one can read them. Seriously though, does anyone happen to know the cause for the loss of internet today? You may add Belarus as well in the internet shutdown incident (which was for that fraudulent election by that dictator Lukashenko and his high rank officials) and it’s not fair. A lot of people are pissed off by that internet shutdown, in which they can only rely communicating each other via SMS or phone calls. Especially those who are working with crypto projects and needs internet connection to do the job or communicating with the team, etc. in Belarus, will also be pissed off missing something. Imagine if you are a bounty hunter or airdropper or even a day trader from Belarus who failed to meet the deadline in submitting entries, etc., due to the government’s internet shutdown. I just hope that Elon Musk’s satellites deploying in space would give us free internet without interruptions soon. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Lordhermes on September 22, 2020, 01:29:52 PM When it comes to business infrastructure in terms marketing strategies, internet is a key factor in driving mechanism in this day generation/century, clearly, there was some slight difficulties in promoting businesses in the old era than now, currently, almost 95% of digital companies and corporations especially crypto related ones depends solely on social media platforms for their promotions, online gaming activities for gamblers, customer care support centers and many more.
Shutting down internet stops these actually thereby reduces rate of profit, and would really be a huge drop down of income percentages on a day to day sales, I just imagine how Huobi would loss profit if China shutdown internet for two days because 80% of traders are Chinese if I'm not mistaking. Imagine if you are a bounty hunter or airdropper or even a day trader from Belarus who failed to meet the deadline in submitting entries, etc., due to the government’s internet shutdown. Lol, this will really hurt a lot, I could remember when failure of Internet connections forfeits me of having counted stakes in a bounty campaign, talk of Internet shutdown, it pains.Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: lixer on September 22, 2020, 01:55:04 PM This kind of thing have not happened in my country before. But the thought of a government shutting down internet, mehn that’s really a dumb thing to do; why would they be shutting down the internet, for what reason exactly? In our world today most of the things that we are doing has to do with internet.
There are some companies like online shopping platforms like Amazon that relies completely on the internet, because without the and if people don’t have access to the internet there is no way that these companies are going to make any sale. And that company might be one that’s contributing well to the GDP of the country. It’s not a good thing to shut down internet. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Yatsan on September 22, 2020, 03:04:28 PM Since people are practically being reliant on the usage and availability of internet, loss of connection from telecommunications companies, internet providers is such a great hassle for the people whether ordinary or those working in the corporate world. Not just business people and companies are being affected with loss of connectivity provided by internet but also students and remote workers that are working at home specially at times like this that almost everything are now being reliant or dependent on digitalization which uses modern technology gadgets and are gaining access for different source of transactions using internet.
Here in my country, the problem with telecommunications and internet providers are having an expensive service fee for the internet connectivity but the service is such a slow and pale which most of the time fails to connect or at times getting disconnected while you were at the middle of your stuffs. But such thing of the government shutting down a telecommunications company or internet service provider have not happened and surely would be impossible for it will cause commotion. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Mauser on September 22, 2020, 03:36:10 PM I believe only during a period without internet like in a shutdown or during power outages we really realise how reliant we became on technology. We need internet for almost everything these days, without it we are lost. We order food online, buy almost anything online, even groceries. We need internet to watch Netflix, movies and SmartTV. So when the government is shutting down the internet it's limiting a lot of possible sales from the economy.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: hulla on September 22, 2020, 03:56:36 PM Venezuela and Iran should be included in this category. In Venezuela no tangible reason behind internet blocked execept for claiming it political decision while in Iran was shut down to stop people from voting.
Government don't shutdown the internet on the whole country, they are doing it in the particular region right? So not much of the economic activities are going to get affected In centralized countries where modern colonialism and imperialism are practiced anything can happen for a selfish reason which will generate big money for the group in government.Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: justdimin on September 23, 2020, 06:04:26 AM I am sure there a lot more downsides to internet shutdown compared to corporate marketing. I mean sure corporations do not do marketing as much because there are no people online and that means bad for business and I agree that it is bad for business and when it is bad for business those companies make less profit and when they make less profit they hire less people and pay less taxes and eventually one internet shutdown becomes something huge.
However we are talking about something bigger, internet is something so huge that it allows people to connect to each other all around the world, when you shut that down you are basically cutting ties with the world at this day and age so it could potentially have stuff that are way bigger than just companies not doing marketing. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: shoreno on September 23, 2020, 06:29:52 AM never experience a loss on internet for a long time but internet can be unavailable here if the networks are conducting a maintenance or if there s something wrong like thier towers were damage by narural events but im lucky because network operators here can respond quickly and problem dont take long enough like what happened on you case which took 3 months , cant imagine my life like that if i was on your situation . however internet here is slow and even got slower and i suspect this is because of pandemic .
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: mnporter2001 on September 23, 2020, 06:43:56 AM Of course a company that ships physical goods isn't affected by an internet shutdown, but they still lose their social media marketing abilities, because no one can read them. Seriously though, does anyone happen to know the cause for the loss of internet today? Although I don't know where the cause comes from, I hope the government should seriously stop this problem. Internet disconnection will affect the lives and work of many people at that time. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: adzino on September 23, 2020, 06:52:17 AM Before internet, people have been doing business and there are even companies that have survived for centuries and during those dark days, that was when they witnessed some of their massive growth. Internet comes with its own advantage but it does not means that without it, people wont still find a way to transact and do business with one another. Of course, business existed before internet. That doesn't mean that business can now still work without internet. The internet has too much impact on daily business for which without it, the normal business is going to be hampered. Agriculture existed before modern technologies were invented and during agricultural period it had massive growth. Now imagine taking away modern technology and cultivating in the old school way. We won't be able to meet peoples demand! The same goes for the business. Without internet, it is going to be though.Now when government shut down the internet, while businesses whose existence relied on that, they would surely have their reason for doing that and that is what the citizens needs to find out whether their reasons are valid or not. Have their own reason or their own benefit?Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 23, 2020, 06:52:22 AM never experience a loss on internet for a long time but internet can be unavailable here if the networks are conducting a maintenance or if there s something wrong like thier towers were damage by narural events but im lucky because network operators here can respond quickly and problem dont take long enough like what happened on you case which took 3 months , cant imagine my life like that if i was on your situation . however internet here is slow and even got slower and i suspect this is because of pandemic . Having no internet connection or slow internet connection due to a bad internet service provider is affecting corporate or small business marketing. They will have a slow progression of selling and promoting their products that will result in a vast downfall on their sales. This kind of situation is also a harmful effect for people who uses cryptocurrency as their daily living or source of income because they won't be able to manage their portfolios or make a trade.Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: 20kevin20 on September 23, 2020, 07:49:48 AM I think there's a larger issue surrounded by internet shutdown than corporate marketing and businesses. It's the society itself. We're relying on the internet on a daily basis so much that shutting it off means cutting off so many ways of communicating, learning, researching etc. And while third-world countries are not as developed from this perspective as first-world ones, I am quite sure a level of tech/internet addiction has been touched in third-world ones as well.
I can't even comprehend what 3 days of internet outage in a country such as USA could have as a result. Nowadays it's not only teens that are addicted to phones and the internet, but also adults and even older groups of age. Here in Romania, I don't even want to imagine how easily an internet outage could bring down like over half of the services we currently use. The majority of teens probably wouldn't even be able to go through an usual day properly. Internet shutdowns affect us from all sides, so combine that with lockdowns and the looming recession and there you have the image of a monster waiting to attack. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Shasha80 on September 23, 2020, 08:28:57 AM Now the internet is a basic human need like food, not only bad for corporate marketing, For some people who have income from
the internet it will be bad if the internet shuts down. Many large companies experience big loss of profit if an internet shutdown occurs, therefore internet providers usually have made backups so that the internet is always on 24/7. So it is impossible for the government to make an internet shutdown.The government will shut down the internet if it is in a situation of war or endangers national security, it is also impossible for the entire area to be closed for internet access. Fortunately in my country the government has never shut down the internet. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: proTECH77 on September 23, 2020, 09:23:09 AM Internet is very important to humanity and organizations.
Many companies are using internet to advertise their products and also use it to sale and purchase commodities. i think internet shutdown by the government cannot collapse corporate market, it can only reduce their marketing process. Even the government know that corporate marketer they need steady internet to advertise their business to gain more customers and profit, so that it will be easy for them to pay their tax to government. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: amishmanish on September 23, 2020, 09:55:42 AM Ahh. Good to know that people in Sudan are into bitcoin too. I have worked in Sudan and I always find it unfortunate that despite such jolly and good-hearted people, African countries remain embroiled in internal strife. When i was there, South Sudan got separated but things were looking good for Sudan. News of this internet ban tells me that the president is back to assert his control over the intelligentsia.
I remember that the internet infra there was always pretty good. The coverage of 3G wasn't all that good in India but we used to have nice internet connection 300 Km from Khartoum (Kosti, Rabak). Hope the country and its people are finding their way to happiness and public liberties. Speaking of public liberties, yes India has a Kashmir problem. The same old saga of separatism stoked by religious fundamentalism. Indian govt has no choice but to prevent these Pakistan backed plans. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: NotATether on September 23, 2020, 10:53:15 AM The shutdowns were happening every single morning and customer support wasn't helpful. Then I finally found the reason online:
https://wonderfulengineering.com/sudan-turns-off-mobile-internet-to-stop-students-from-cheating-in-university-exams/ It is the season for university admission exams in Sudan, and its authorities have taken an unusual step to counter the events of cheating. Sudan’s government has ordered its mobile network providers to turn off cellular data during the three hours of tests, those of which have already started and will go on till the 24th of September. This will ensure a level playing ground for every student, and the entries will be entirely based on merit. Sudan’s government has been using this technique to counter any protests against its administrative authorities, which helps them reduce the co-ordination between protesters and its wide-spread propaganda on social media. However, the South African country is using the same methodology for preventing happenings of cheating in entry exams for the very first time. This cycle for disrupting the cellular data all across the country started on the 16th of September. The network providers began to get tons of complaints in no time, upon which they let people know that they are following state orders. Only then the public got to understand why they don’t have internet access despite paying their bills. Three years ago, Sudanese authorities had to re-conduct entry exams due to extensive cheating as the paper got leaked online. It is the pretty much reason why they had to take such a step during exams going on these days. Mobile data for around 13 million users get turned off from 8 am-11 am, leaving them isolated from the world-wide-web during this period. However, essential institution’s operations aren’t disrupted as they are backed by cable internet connections such as government institutions, money exchanges, and banks. There are numerous ways to prevent cheating in exams that you might have heard of, but this one is so far the most extreme way to stop such happenings. What the fuck?? Who the hell turns off the entire country's mobile internet infrastructure just to stop students from cheating in exams? It's so stupid, they're hurting everyone else who uses the internet. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Natsuu on September 23, 2020, 11:30:53 AM This kind of thing have not happened in my country before. But the thought of a government shutting down internet, mehn that’s really a dumb thing to do; why would they be shutting down the internet, for what reason exactly? In our world today most of the things that we are doing has to do with internet. There are some companies like online shopping platforms like Amazon that relies completely on the internet, because without the and if people don’t have access to the internet there is no way that these companies are going to make any sale. And that company might be one that’s contributing well to the GDP of the country. It’s not a good thing to shut down internet. To answer your question, this action of the government came from I think the privacy, and deafen the people from hearing truths about the country and the administration. First is the privacy, with privacy in mind, the recent issue about the application TIKTOK where they said that Chinese use this app to spy on the US by getting the information from its users. this issue had been circulating lately and tiktok community do quite be disturbed by this news. (2) is to deafen the people from hearing truths, for as we all know that some administration had been making some disturbing malpractices towards their citizen. Just like in Thailand where they said that their president is a dictator and doing violence against the people who voice out. Also in the USA where the #BLACKLIVESMATTER began. Without the internet, citizen all around the will be having a hard time try to discover this happenings. Yet, shutting down the internet is such a crap given that this gives the people a wider area of access for services. and the amount of service will add up to the economy of a country, so if this really happens, sketchy happenings will happen in that country because there is no acceptable reason to defend the shutting down of internet. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Hydrogen on September 23, 2020, 01:17:15 PM I have a reason to believe that civilians deprived of internet access is dangerous for companies trying to make a profit. If you've ever read a news headline where a business claimed to suffer large monetary losses due to website defacement or IT attacks resulting in site downtime. They calculate those statistics by multiplying the number of hours their website was down times their average revenue per hour. If amazon's revenue per hour is $2 million. And their website was defaced by a 9 year old hacker and down for 5 hours. They might claim $10 million in damages. In that sense I think what you're saying there is acknowledged by the legal system as an industry standard since the 1980s. Other countries appear to be importing Sudan's internet shutdown techniques I think its commonly referred to as a "great firewall of china" or "internet kill switch". It wasn't so long ago that many american politicians were saying the united states needed an internet kill switch like the one china has. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: fiulpro on September 23, 2020, 05:01:10 PM It is not just bad for corporate marketing but at the same time due to pandemic most :
- Jobs - Shopping - Studies Etc... Everyday work is dependent on the internet, now so more than ever. If the government decides to shut down the internet , the people who are living there won't be able to cope up with this situation for too long and come up with other methods. -Plus I do believe civilians without any internet connection are not dangerous for the company since it's ultimately the fault of the government themselves. People don't have a say in it. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: bitgolden on September 23, 2020, 06:34:05 PM Normally it is not a good thing to actually cut down an entire countries internet, whatever the reason is it can't be enough because we are talking about something a lot bigger than any reason that could be given.
However if they are really bringing something as tiny as this, "to stop cheating" that is really even worse. Nobody should have this much power over a country and that is the trouble with underdeveloped nations, this is why Norway and so forth are so great and other nations are not. In highly developed and happy nations "powerful" people are people who are famous for good reasons and not bad, politicians and so forth do not cover the news that much and there are no powerful people who could abuse their power to make themselves even more powerful. Having internet cut down because they asked for it to "prevent cheating" is not something they should have as a power, internet companies should be capable of saying "no we won't do it" if they do not want to. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Genemind on September 23, 2020, 06:58:02 PM There was a brief total internet shutdown over here today that lasted for a few hours. All of the ISPs cut off internet access for some reason and then restored it back. It reminded me of the time mobile internet access was shut down for almost three months last year. Obviously they didn't touch broadband lines so that they didn't disrupt company operations and bring economic selling to a halt. But I have a reason to believe that civilians deprived of internet access is dangerous for companies trying to make a profit. In third-world countries, companies rely on social media platforms like Facebook for their marketing, advertising and to attract new customers. By shutting off internet access, you are effectively drying up their revenue streams, which cannot continue for too long (like for the course of months), or all of them will start reporting losses. Nearly all people here use 4G or 3G internet on their SIM cards, and not a router. So the more people using mobile internet in a country, the more drastic the consequences of an internet shutdown are for companies. Other countries appear to be importing Sudan's internet shutdown techniques (India (https://internetshutdowns.in/in-news), Ethiopia (https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/-internet-shutdown-cost-ethiopia-over-100m-netblocks-1906706)) but surely they have to know that by shutting down the internet, they are reducing company sales. Sure the company's operations themselves aren't affected, but how are they supposed to sustain them without sales? Of course a company that ships physical goods isn't affected by an internet shutdown, but they still lose their social media marketing abilities, because no one can read them. Seriously though, does anyone happen to know the cause for the loss of internet today? Internet cutdowns has a huge impact not just in lots of businesses but also to ordinary people especially for freelancers, online workers and even for students. One of the major things that we need during this pandemic is the internet supply since most of us are working online. I guess if the goverment would do things like this, they should provide a second internet provider option so business operations or even the education wouldn't be affected. It will be a big loss for the economy. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: yulchatar on September 23, 2020, 07:03:50 PM Before internet, people have been doing business and there are even companies that have survived for centuries and during those dark days, that was when they witnessed some of their massive growth. Internet comes with its own advantage but it does not means that without it, people wont still find a way to transact and do business with one another. Now when government shut down the internet, while businesses whose existence relied on that, they would surely have their reason for doing that and that is what the citizens needs to find out whether their reasons are valid or not. Of course it's possible. Many of us remember the time without the Internet, when everyone and everything worked "offline". But now almost all databases are digitized, the supply of goods to stores and supermarkets is completely tied to the connection to the network, as is the supply of drugs to pharmacies. The delivery itself is carried out using navigators. And so on. In fact, almost any company can work without the Internet, but it will take a very large amount of time and effort. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Nhor1011 on September 23, 2020, 10:46:11 PM There will be a lot of affected if ever there is an internet shutdown specially now that there is an online classes because of pandemic. Our government talked all the internet company to build a better internet connection urgent. Not only business company will become affected but also those work online like in cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: abhiseshakana on September 24, 2020, 12:15:15 AM I am sure there a lot more downsides to internet shutdown compared to corporate marketing. I mean sure corporations do not do marketing as much because there are no people online and that means bad for business and I agree that it is bad for business and when it is bad for business those companies make less profit and when they make less profit they hire less people and pay less taxes and eventually one internet shutdown becomes something huge. However we are talking about something bigger, internet is something so huge that it allows people to connect to each other all around the world, when you shut that down you are basically cutting ties with the world at this day and age so it could potentially have stuff that are way bigger than just companies not doing marketing. Discussing internet shutdown, I thought about the form of the third world war, namely space war, and cyberwar between countries. If the shutdown by the government can cause large even though measurable losses, what if the shutdown is deliberately carried out by a country to paralyze another country. America has developed a "US Space Force" and this is one of America's ambitions to dominate the world. Technological developments have made space a battlefield that must be guarded and protected. The attack on a satellite is wide and infinite so that the economic loss is immeasurable and the most terrible is the threat to the territorial sovereignty of a country. So technology does make it easier and makes a high level of dependability, so we forget to prepare manual mode if the technology stops. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Salauddin1994 on September 24, 2020, 03:52:18 AM Without the use of the internet almost everything will become obsolete all the work in the world is done through the internet shutting down the internet by the government is bad for corporate marketing and it will bring the world down even further. In the beginning internet-based communication was disrupted no information could be exchanged in the country via email or social media. App-based communication systems like viber and whatsapp would also be out of order the problem was more with those who needed to speak abroad.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: michellee on September 24, 2020, 08:31:19 AM Seriously though, does anyone happen to know the cause for the loss of internet today? The internet shutdown can bring sadness to people because many people have online works that depend on the internet. And if somehow, in his country, the internet is not online, it will make him can not work as usual. The internet has now become a primary thing for people, especially for the young generation who always connect to the internet. They will not be able to do many things, especially for playing games which many young generations did.Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Kasabus on September 24, 2020, 10:03:29 AM Seriously though, does anyone happen to know the cause for the loss of internet today? The internet shutdown can bring sadness to people because many people have online works that depend on the internet. And if somehow, in his country, the internet is not online, it will make him can not work as usual. The internet has now become a primary thing for people, especially for the young generation who always connect to the internet. They will not be able to do many things, especially for playing games which many young generations did.Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: hugeblack on September 24, 2020, 10:31:16 AM What the fuck?? Who the hell turns off the entire country's mobile internet infrastructure just to stop students from cheating in exams? It's so stupid, they're hurting everyone else who uses the internet. The same thing happened in Algeria and in some Arab countries. I remember that it happened in Egypt for a few hours because of the final exams, which are considered part of the national security of many countries.I do not think that blocking social media applications will be useful as it is easy to bypass this ban. The same applies if the government decided to cut off the Internet from certain places. The best they could do was cut off the internet from the places that the examination halls were next to, but this depends on the ability of the internet networks and the range of bandwidth allocated to them. In short, it is the easiest solution. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Sanitough on September 24, 2020, 12:27:34 PM It usually happen in our country as well, only have 2 ISP at the moment and our internet service provider does not provide the best service, however, if there are shut down, it's not due to government mandate or whatsoever, these shutdowns are cause by ISP maintenance.
For me which just mostly relies on internet, this is a big interruption so I'm actually hoping that our government will open more players for better services. As for me I am not so affected since I'm just using a p2p connection or sim based connection, using my modem I can shift to other network but it also cause a little delay for my job. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: FlightyPouch on September 24, 2020, 01:01:30 PM I don't know if this is just a coincidence but one of the most popular ISP here in our country, PLDT/Smart is notifying their costumers for their maintenance starting tomorrow until the end of the month. Schools that are affected are already notifying the students about this to stop their online classes until the maintenance are done. Just how bad will be the effect of this maintenance to big companies and corporations that uses their services.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: finaleshot2016 on September 24, 2020, 01:31:45 PM I don't know if this is just a coincidence but one of the most popular ISP here in our country, PLDT/Smart is notifying their costumers for their maintenance starting tomorrow until the end of the month. Schools that are affected are already notifying the students about this to stop their online classes until the maintenance are done. Just how bad will be the effect of this maintenance to big companies and corporations that uses their services. Ofcourse it isn't related, PLDT/Smart will conduct emergency maintenance for the improvement of their service at the Asian American Gateway (AAG), one of PLDT’s international cable systems. Their maintenance has nothing to do with the internet shutdown by the government because the internet is one of the necessities in our country (it's obv.). The internet shutdown in different aspects is a big problem. Even though simple maintenance will give a huge problem especially online classes. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Chrystora123 on September 24, 2020, 03:02:54 PM hope this never happens.. I can't imagine what will happen to society if the government shut down (cut off) internet access. In this modern era, the internet has become a human need (equivalent to eating, drinking and sex)..
Before internet, people have been doing business and there are even companies that have survived for centuries and during those dark days, that was when they witnessed some of their massive growth. Internet comes with its own advantage but it does not means that without it, people wont still find a way to transact and do business with one another. Now when government shut down the internet, while businesses whose existence relied on that, they would surely have their reason for doing that and that is what the citizens needs to find out whether their reasons are valid or not. It is true, before that many had survived without the internet but when internet access was easy to achieve in this era, people became addicted to the internet and would not possibly come back (lived before the internet appeared)..Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: harizen on September 24, 2020, 06:24:14 PM ....PLDT/Smart will conduct emergency maintenance for the improvement of their service at the Asian American Gateway (AAG), one of PLDT’s international cable systems. Their maintenance has nothing to do with the internet shutdown by the government because the internet is one of the necessities in our country (it's obv.). The internet shutdown in different aspects is a big problem. Even though simple maintenance will give a huge problem especially online classes. And to other ISP's as well in PH. No choice but to rely on "they will do something in order to minimize the problem that it will bring". As for the timing, I think it's just fine as it's better to start prior to weekends. In most cases, online classes are done on Weekdays. It's just 5 days so shouldn't be a problem (except for WFH). As for the topic, shouldn't be a big deal as of now***. It's alarming if the shutdown happened without any reason. Don't know the technical reason behind it but I think a few hours shutdown won't create a panic that much. Yes, it might create concerns and worries so better watch what will happen next. After all, we are just speculators and relying on what we see on articles and news. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: michellee on September 25, 2020, 04:33:03 AM Seriously though, does anyone happen to know the cause for the loss of internet today? The internet shutdown can bring sadness to people because many people have online works that depend on the internet. And if somehow, in his country, the internet is not online, it will make him can not work as usual. The internet has now become a primary thing for people, especially for the young generation who always connect to the internet. They will not be able to do many things, especially for playing games which many young generations did.Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: worldofcoins on September 25, 2020, 05:17:22 AM Almost everything is currently connected with the web, when there is some issue with the web naturally large misfortune is being experienced by each practical segment.
The government itself uses the internet to trace criminals I don't think they gonna shut it down. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: bits4books on September 25, 2020, 05:24:27 AM Let's be honest - they turn off the Internet not to harm companies and businesses, but for completely different reasons.
A striking example in today's world life is Belarus, where the Internet was turned off during mass protests against the elections. The only benefits recipients of disabling the Internet is the government. Without the Internet, the vast majority of communication channels are lost, which can block the communication of protesters/terrorists/criminals in order to effectively counter them. Well, or another benefit - when you turn off the Internet on the territory of combat operations to disrupt the coordination of the enemy. But this is a completely military thing, we will not touch them. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 25, 2020, 09:52:16 AM Let's be honest - they turn off the Internet not to harm companies and businesses, but for completely different reasons. The question is if the government are turning it off intentionally?A striking example in today's world life is Belarus, where the Internet was turned off during mass protests against the elections. The only benefits recipients of disabling the Internet is the government. Without the Internet, the vast majority of communication channels are lost, which can block the communication of protesters/terrorists/criminals in order to effectively counter them. Well it good have some benefits, but we are talking about the net effects for companies and it could mean loss of millions of dollars. Just like the days when we have power crisis, electricity is on a rotation and brown out are more frequent to save it. And since everyone today are connection, specially in this pandemic wherein schools are done online, it has a drastic effect even for a minute if internet is shutdown.Well, or another benefit - when you turn off the Internet on the territory of combat operations to disrupt the coordination of the enemy. But this is a completely military thing, we will not touch them. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Emitdama on September 25, 2020, 06:29:35 PM I live in a developing country and I have not even heard about anything as such as internet shut down, but we do experience some issues with our internet connections due to some situations, but that used to be before we started having underground cables that are more stable now and even when it rains heavily network is still stable and you can still have access to the internet.
There has never been a time that the government shuts down the internet for any reason. And if they do, it would be very bad and will affect a lot of areas in the economy, especially those businesses that are into internet marketing, etc. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: bits4books on September 26, 2020, 06:11:57 AM Let's be honest - they turn off the Internet not to harm companies and businesses, but for completely different reasons. The question is if the government are turning it off intentionally?A striking example in today's world life is Belarus, where the Internet was turned off during mass protests against the elections. The only benefits recipients of disabling the Internet is the government. Without the Internet, the vast majority of communication channels are lost, which can block the communication of protesters/terrorists/criminals in order to effectively counter them. Well it good have some benefits, but we are talking about the net effects for companies and it could mean loss of millions of dollars. Just like the days when we have power crisis, electricity is on a rotation and brown out are more frequent to save it. And since everyone today are connection, specially in this pandemic wherein schools are done online, it has a drastic effect even for a minute if internet is shutdown.Well, or another benefit - when you turn off the Internet on the territory of combat operations to disrupt the coordination of the enemy. But this is a completely military thing, we will not touch them. So no one else has such great forces that would turn off the Internet on the territory of an entire country. Either the government of a country that itself arranges a shutdown for some tactical purposes-or the government of another country that has enough authority to do such things. You understand that if you want, you can PHYSICALLY cut the ocean cables and the continents will remain inside your intranet without fast communication with others? Such a case is either the beginning of a war or a terrorist act. Ordinary people, even if it's just for sport, wouldn't think of such a thing, because it's like shooting yourself in the foot. But who knows what the authorities are capable of... Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Dorodha on September 26, 2020, 12:01:56 PM I have not heard any information that the government will shut down the internet everything in the world is done through the internet. In that case if the internet is shut down the government will suffer the most. The exchange of transaction information will do nothing which will cause the country's economy to slowly start to decline. Internet marketing will not stop as the demand for internet continues to grow and the current world is becoming digital.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: verita1 on September 26, 2020, 12:20:19 PM Recently in my country, Venezuela, our internet service was affected due to a power outage. We have problems in the maintenance of the electrical system and also in the Internet service.
Venezuelans try to cope with their routines with all their difficulties in addition to the suffering that we have around the world such as the pandemic. Perhaps you should investigate what happened in your country if it was intentional or if it happened as in my country unexpectedly as a result of a failure of the electrical system. https://thevenezuelanjournal.com/most-of-venezuela-suffered-blackout-and-internet-failure-p2323-170.htm (https://thevenezuelanjournal.com/most-of-venezuela-suffered-blackout-and-internet-failure-p2323-170.htm) Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: coolcoinz on September 26, 2020, 12:54:16 PM Government don't shutdown the internet on the whole country, they are doing it in the particular region right? So not much of the economic activities are going to get affected and internet has been shutdown normally to stop the communication between local people and outside people so no one other than people there knows exactly what is happening and this is normally implemented in tension between military and locals. You're asking a strange question because, for instance, I can't recall a case in the EU where the Internet was shut down. It would paralyze the banking system because it wuold stop ATMs and electronic payments and as a result paralyze the country. Even politicians know they'd be affected by not being able to pay for a hotel room or a rented car with their card, unable to buy plane tickets and fly home to their families. There's not going to be any Internet shutdown in any country that isn't run by a crazy regime like North Korea or Venezuela. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: RealMalatesta on September 26, 2020, 06:16:25 PM Unfortunately when nations who do not know about tech that well have to find a way to prevent usage they go with this route. The main reason for this is the fact that the higher up powerful politicians and all of their advisors and consultants all are very old, they are at least 50+ and usually they could be as high as 70+ years old as well.
This means they were born before there was a computer, now we can face time each other, or have a watch that can give me all the results if I want, it is impossible for them to catch up with everyone, which causes them to not understand and can't prevent. When 16 year olds go against 70 year olds in a battle for tech, there is no question who will win, younger generation will always be the one that will beat the older generation, even without internet. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: electronicash on September 26, 2020, 06:39:27 PM Government don't shutdown the internet on the whole country, they are doing it in the particular region right? So not much of the economic activities are going to get affected and internet has been shutdown normally to stop the communication between local people and outside people so no one other than people there knows exactly what is happening and this is normally implemented in tension between military and locals. You're asking a strange question because, for instance, I can't recall a case in the EU where the Internet was shut down. It would paralyze the banking system because it wuold stop ATMs and electronic payments and as a result paralyze the country. Even politicians know they'd be affected by not being able to pay for a hotel room or a rented car with their card, unable to buy plane tickets and fly home to their families. There's not going to be any Internet shutdown in any country that isn't run by a crazy regime like North Korea or Venezuela. it sounded very related to politics. it would be very political if most of the owner of the internet service providers are pretty much very vocal about their position to the sitting president of the country. its such unfortunate if the reason is business competition that the internet is shutdown. i doubt they will do all these when there is crisis. politics is dirty and if its in US then shutting down mobile internet is crucial for Trump this election because he is also one of the president who uses social media to gain popularity. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: MCobian on September 26, 2020, 08:27:13 PM I am sure the government will not shutdown the internet, because human activities are currently very dependent on the internet.
So the impact will be very bad without the internet, not only corporations will be affected if the internet is shut down. However, the government will also be affected, because current government activities also require the internet. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: stadus on September 27, 2020, 06:32:04 AM I am sure the government will not shutdown the internet, because human activities are currently very dependent on the internet. So the impact will be very bad without the internet, not only corporations will be affected if the internet is shut down. However, the government will also be affected, because current government activities also require the internet. The world is going digital already even the central bank, so it's not right to shut down the internet in any reason. Internet has become vital now as it's use everywhere and every activities, name it, online selling, online job and even online financial transaction. Government should be sued if they'll do that. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: ampu on September 27, 2020, 12:05:00 PM Society is moving most of its commercial activities to the internet, that's the trend. I don't think any country has turned down this growth opportunity. Turning off the internet is a job that goes against the laws of economic development, of society.
Internet-related problems can be caused by server issues, possibly from overload or fire. In our country, the internet connection is still attacked by a shark, the anchor line has broken. These situations do not last long. In the future, Elon Musk's internet solution will certainly be favored as it appears to be more optimal over fiber but maybe a bit slower. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Jawhead999 on September 27, 2020, 12:43:13 PM Let's back to ancient times when we make fire with stones :P
https://i.ibb.co/zRGX3hF/Hombre-neandertal.jpg (https://imgbb.com/) I don't see any advantages by shutting downs the internet connection, it will make almost our activities getting difficult with reduce the effectiveness and efficient by using internet. Also it will affect to many sector especially in economy. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: SquallLeonhart on September 27, 2020, 12:51:48 PM You do realize that this is last years that anyone can have a right to close down your internet. Google, tesla, facebook and basically all high level tech companies are working together in a tink tank type of situation (and fairly developed already) to provide internet to whole world without connection.
They are basically building a whole line of satellites that would provide the same exact internet to everyone in the world, they also have the greatest servers in the world without a doubt, so simply put they will just provide the fastest available internet with no limitations to everywhere in the world equally and it will be incredibly cheap as well. Obviously there is a cost when you build something like that but when you provide it to whole world it gets a lot more profitable, plus they like selling ads to you, so your internet could come with ads and for free as well, who knows? Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Findingnemo on September 27, 2020, 12:53:07 PM Government don't shutdown the internet on the whole country, they are doing it in the particular region right? So not much of the economic activities are going to get affected and internet has been shutdown normally to stop the communication between local people and outside people so no one other than people there knows exactly what is happening and this is normally implemented in tension between military and locals. You're asking a strange question because, for instance, I can't recall a case in the EU where the Internet was shut down. It would paralyze the banking system because it wuold stop ATMs and electronic payments and as a result paralyze the country. Even politicians know they'd be affected by not being able to pay for a hotel room or a rented car with their card, unable to buy plane tickets and fly home to their families. There's not going to be any Internet shutdown in any country that isn't run by a crazy regime like North Korea or Venezuela. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: michellee on September 27, 2020, 01:04:04 PM I am sure the government will not shutdown the internet, because human activities are currently very dependent on the internet. So the impact will be very bad without the internet, not only corporations will be affected if the internet is shut down. However, the government will also be affected, because current government activities also require the internet. The world is going digital already even the central bank, so it's not right to shut down the internet in any reason. Internet has become vital now as it's use everywhere and every activities, name it, online selling, online job and even online financial transaction. Government should be sued if they'll do that. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Leviathan.007 on September 27, 2020, 01:28:24 PM While many people in all over the world are using the internet for their livings, sadly in some countries like Sudan and Ethiopia the governments will easily shutdown the internet without of any proper answers (They say technical problems) and this will really damage the economy of that country to stay away from other countries. While the main reason for the internet shutdowns are usually political and religious stuff by the governments to avoid incoming news and information from other countries to their country.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: panganib999 on September 27, 2020, 06:19:31 PM All things that are made to be accessible through internet will surely be get affected once internet is shutdown or there is an error that came along with the telecommunications company which are the internet service orovider. Those things that will surely get affected are the corporate marketing of course that now relies on social media and online advertisements, classes that are made through online, remote working as well. Those will surely get affected and be interrupted once internet suffers shutdown moment which is really not good specially most of us are now being reliant on internet service now that we are in pandemic and we are in the technological advancement era that all are accessible and made possible by internet. It would be a bad image for government shutting down internet services for any reasons knowing it would affect a big population of people that will possibly have an impact on the country's economy.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Oceat on September 27, 2020, 07:17:59 PM I am just curious of what could be the reason why they have to shut down the internet for a while? It's unusual that they just shut it down without telling first hand what could be the cause because I'm sure they already know that it could affect the whole economy in their country. Not unless it's just shut down on a specific area only because they are trying to stop something (If you could only knew though what was that).
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: NotATether on September 27, 2020, 07:23:48 PM You do realize that this is last years that anyone can have a right to close down your internet. Google, tesla, facebook and basically all high level tech companies are working together in a tink tank type of situation (and fairly developed already) to provide internet to whole world without connection. They are basically building a whole line of satellites that would provide the same exact internet to everyone in the world, they also have the greatest servers in the world without a doubt, so simply put they will just provide the fastest available internet with no limitations to everywhere in the world equally and it will be incredibly cheap as well. Obviously there is a cost when you build something like that but when you provide it to whole world it gets a lot more profitable, plus they like selling ads to you, so your internet could come with ads and for free as well, who knows? At this point I wouldn't mind if Facebook launched a free internet service to use. True, almost all of these big companies have privacy scandals against them, but I'd take it over an unreliable ISP connection (broadband lines are few and far between and so you need deep pockets to get them e.g. if you run a business or are wealthy). Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 27, 2020, 07:44:39 PM But I have a reason to believe that civilians deprived of internet access is dangerous for companies trying to make a profit. Of course it's detrimental--or dangerous as you put it--to any business that relies on the internet for sales. This happened in Sudan? I don't know what kind of internet providers you guys have over there, or even what your government is like, so there's no way for me to comment on why a thing like that would happen to your citizens. But that's really messed up if you ask me.Nothing like that has happened country-wide in any other place I know of; certainly not in the US. Ever. There have been times when the electricity has gone out, but even then you still have internet access from mobile devices as long as you can keep them charged. You do realize that this is last years that anyone can have a right to close down your internet. Google, tesla, facebook and basically all high level tech companies are working together in a tink tank type of situation (and fairly developed already) to provide internet to whole world without connection. Huh. I'm not sure if I should be enthusiastic about that or nervous. Privacy is clearly becoming a relic of a bygone era, but stuff like that would pretty much wipe it out entirely for anyone using the internet. Yikes.<snip> Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: NotATether on September 27, 2020, 08:05:03 PM But I have a reason to believe that civilians deprived of internet access is dangerous for companies trying to make a profit. Of course it's detrimental--or dangerous as you put it--to any business that relies on the internet for sales. This happened in Sudan? I don't know what kind of internet providers you guys have over there, or even what your government is like, so there's no way for me to comment on why a thing like that would happen to your citizens. But that's really messed up if you ask me.I'll help you understand the situation with ISPs here. As far as mobile networks go we got two private ISPs (zain, mtn) and one partially state-owned ISP (sudani). The situation for broadband is different we got a few different providers for those though some of the mobile ISPs also sell ADSL lines. Basically the government ordered all ISPs to shut off their mobile lines (but not broadband as you can't bring a router and ethernet line with you to the exam room) It makes sense that the government is able to order their state owned ISP to shut off some of their internet services for whatever reason, given that they partially own it and so have a say in their operations, but forcing 100% private owned ISPs for it? Absolute no-no for me, it's something I won't accept. Somebody has too much power in the power-sharing transitional government. And thankfully the exam season circus is over so I no longer have to put up with these shutdowns. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Xxmodded on September 28, 2020, 06:21:15 PM I know how situation when bitcoin and altcoin have good or bad moment and we lost chance to sell, buy or take order during internet lost and shut down by government. We can't get good chance if our country is not keep stay for internet and electric, how ever both them is most important for investor, trader and many people depend their life with internet and electric. I am really happy with my country keep going on for giving good service by keeping internet with higher speed and keep on for electric.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: CODE200 on September 28, 2020, 07:02:51 PM There is really a great impact which is a negative one when the internet gets a problematic scenario such as being disconnected or being shut down for it will duly affect everything that can only be accessed by having an internet connection. Corporate marketing is not just the one who will get affected by the loss of internet but also other stuffs that depends on internet usage such as education and works most specially at times like this that those two become reliant and dependent on having internet because of the new normal setup that tends students and workers to get their normal loads done at home through digital setup amid with the existence of the covid-19 pandemic. Not just corporate marketing would be affected by loss of internet but also other stuffs being done through online. People are now dependent on Internet's existence for we are at the phase of digitalization that almost everything are accessible and are made possible by having an internet access.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: shield132 on September 28, 2020, 09:16:22 PM Where are internet shutdowns done by governments? Or in overall in which countries are internet shutdowns common? I don't know to be fair, maybe in Afghanistan and in similar countries but corporate marketing and this kind of business isn't something that shines there.
Btw if we discuss about it, it has it's pros and cons for governments. Pros is that by turning off electricity and internet, you can hide any information from stream you wish but that sounds brutal, right? Especially in 2020 and isn't a thing that can be done easily. Otherwise shutdown of internet for government isn't beneficial. In corporate marketing, it may help some countries to get rid of spending national currency on Facebook, google and other advertising websites but on another hand government may lost solid profit from online stores and from many kind of business that at some point operates online. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: lovesmayfamilis on September 29, 2020, 07:33:53 AM The governments of the world's major powers have a button to turn off the Internet, and it is called an Internet kill switch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_kill_switch Fiber optic cables, laid on the ocean floor, carry all the basic information on the Internet. If these cables are attacked in a coordinated manner, the consequences will be disastrous. Recently, however, Internet outages have become the "norm" in some countries. Thus, they undermine their own economies, which negatively affects the reputation of the states themselves. It also undermines citizens' confidence on the Internet. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: erikoy on September 29, 2020, 08:47:46 AM Not really that bad because internet connections without reprimanding the owners especially their service nothing will going to change like here in our place.
Because of the poor internet service, poor internet connection and the likes, the government will then decided to invite and welcome other telco players to join so that it will get a competition and internet services will not be monopolized by the people who are owning internet connection services here in our place. Hopefully monopolization will end and competitive market will begin. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: ArIMy11 on September 29, 2020, 02:32:31 PM Not only the corporate marketing is affected. In my country, even students and teachers are badly affected. Due to face to face meeting is prohibited this time in order to less exposure to the virus, online classes are everywhere. Online classes are made so that students will not be left behind or will continuously earn even in this kind of situation. At this point in time, so much people make the internet a pass time, or center of business especially browsing on facebook. Internet plays a very important role during this time but even though our Government has no plan of shutting down the internet, internet connection is already poor which sometimes you may feel that it already shutdown because it can't load anything.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Serious475 on September 29, 2020, 02:40:40 PM Not only the corporate marketing is affected. In my country, even students and teachers are badly affected. Due to face to face meeting is prohibited this time in order to less exposure to the virus, online classes are everywhere. Online classes are made so that students will not be left behind or will continuously earn even in this kind of situation. At this point in time, so much people make the internet a pass time, or center of business especially browsing on facebook. Internet plays a very important role during this time but even though our Government has no plan of shutting down the internet, internet connection is already poor which sometimes you may feel that it already shutdown because it can't load anything. Right now on my country there is a two dominating internet service provider and they hold by a single businessman with different connections into other people. Because of the pandemic we need to still continue most of the things we are doing and one of these are the schools the teacher and students need to adopt right now because they don't want to skip the year without learning anything due to having a slow internet connection and monopoly on my country the people can't do anything with this. Right now there are a new ISP and this may give them a quite fear because it's more high speed and low fees so there is a chance they will change their service. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: pokeronlinestatus on September 29, 2020, 08:06:31 PM If a government should take down the internet , that’s their own loss because the country or region where the internet was shut down is going to be affected badly. There are lots of businesses these days that rely on internet to carry out their activities and communicate with their staff and customers, so imagine the government shutting down the internet, these type of businesses are going to be affected as there will be a lack of communication.
Moreover, another thing we have to put into consideration is the fact that most Businesses these days, even the small stores are online doing their business, so if you should do such a thing, it’s going to have a negative impact since these stores are going to be losing money. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: iv4n on September 29, 2020, 08:23:47 PM I think we can all agree that shutting down the internet is not a good option, on the contrary it will have side effects that will be very painful. Which is totally understandable, we all get nervous when we don't have connection! It's even worst when you really need it and you have so many things to do! So shutting down the internet is bad for everyone, or at least for majority!
Internet is an important part of our lives, we can admit or deny that, but it's a fact! Now many people and many business relays on this internet, and to not go off-topic here but that can become serious addiction! Now imagine the addict without his drug?! Shutting down the internet will have the same effects on some people! Maybe many people, I am not sure. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: el kaka22 on September 30, 2020, 08:43:06 AM There was a topic about how sharks literally cut internet down for some countries. It is not something that we all want to see because it is horrifying if you want to watch it, but if you google (or youtube search) shark attack cable you will see some videos, they literally attack internet cables under the oceans.
However if you live in mainland Europe that means most probably you are getting your internet not via overseas, it may come from up top and you wouldn't worry about it. Long story short the kill switch is not really for these purpose, it is for more political stuff, like let's say if there is a civil war or sorts, they could use the kill switch to prevent the terrorists (or liberators if they are successful, weird) which would really do hurt everyone in that nation as a whole. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: ultrloa on September 30, 2020, 09:44:35 AM Internet is an important part of our lives, we can admit or deny that, but it's a fact! Now many people and many business relays on this internet, and to not go off-topic here but that can become serious addiction! Now imagine the addict without his drug?! Shutting down the internet will have the same effects on some people! Maybe many people, I am not sure. It's now part of the business of all people around the globe and without internet all will struggle to go back on manual things and I believe this will never happen to any country since government also got the benefit of this technology. But although if this scenario will happen then for sure all will be back in physical things which is so hard for others who used to make things easy with internet. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: noorammak on October 02, 2020, 03:05:26 AM I think it's just a problem and carriers are working on it. No country has ever turned down the opportunity to be marketed and thrived in cyberspace. The Internet is a real opportunity and they will take advantage of it, not prevent businesses from accessing it.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on October 02, 2020, 03:23:48 AM If a government should take down the internet , that’s their own loss because the country or region where the internet was shut down is going to be affected badly. There are lots of businesses these days that rely on internet to carry out their activities and communicate with their staff and customers, so imagine the government shutting down the internet, these type of businesses are going to be affected as there will be a lack of communication. I don't know with what a reason the government can shout down the internet. Since they can still manage/manipulate it, they can ban some websites who will threat their country. Internet is a solution for all human being, with that they can make easy all their lives, as well as for the government they will still need internet to make a comunication become easily. Moreover, another thing we have to put into consideration is the fact that most Businesses these days, even the small stores are online doing their business, so if you should do such a thing, it’s going to have a negative impact since these stores are going to be losing money. Take a look to the government who shout down the investment to be used by their citizen, north korea as an example, is their country fine without internet? especially for the people who live there, I think no. It is not a policy if the government prohibits the use of the internet, unless there is a consequence that can really destroy the country without remaining at all. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: sunsilk on October 02, 2020, 03:36:11 AM The interruption for most countries that are using the service of those corporations that are operating their cable lines under the ocean or what we call the submarine communications cables (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/60150/10-facts-about-internets-undersea-cables) have gone through an upgrade or repair.
Before the Internet wasn't a necessary part of our lives but now, a repair will affect most connected businesses and individuals and can lose much money by a single interruption. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: worldofcoins on October 02, 2020, 03:50:08 PM The interruption for most countries that are using the service of those corporations that are operating their cable lines under the ocean or what we call the submarine communications cables (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/60150/10-facts-about-internets-undersea-cables) have gone through an upgrade or repair. Before the Internet wasn't a necessary part of our lives but now, a repair will affect most connected businesses and individuals and can lose much money by a single interruption. Internet isn't owned by one government its spreads in every region and controlled by ISPs. There's no chance for the government to take the internet down since they also use it, All the media is connected with the internet and they spread the government's update and news to the peoples. The Internet can be down for some moments or seconds but there's no way to take down forever. Corporations might be affected highly because everything is now associated with the internet Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: sunsilk on October 03, 2020, 01:34:28 AM The interruption for most countries that are using the service of those corporations that are operating their cable lines under the ocean or what we call the submarine communications cables (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/60150/10-facts-about-internets-undersea-cables) have gone through an upgrade or repair. Internet isn't owned by one government its spreads in every region and controlled by ISPs. Before the Internet wasn't a necessary part of our lives but now, a repair will affect most connected businesses and individuals and can lose much money by a single interruption. There's no chance for the government to take the internet down since they also use it, All the media is connected with the internet and they spread the government's update and news to the peoples. The Internet can be down for some moments or seconds but there's no way to take down forever. Corporations might be affected highly because everything is now associated with the internet Actually the government can cut the operation of a Service Provider that's running inside their jurisdiction. They may not fully take down the source but the operations inside their border can. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Janation on October 03, 2020, 08:23:38 AM I think it's just a problem and carriers are working on it. No country has ever turned down the opportunity to be marketed and thrived in cyberspace. The Internet is a real opportunity and they will take advantage of it, not prevent businesses from accessing it. We are also having some problems with our ISPs. But I don't think it is a problem that every corporation could experience since there will always come a time that these ISPs would be needing to upgrade their services to give a better experience for their clients. Sometimes, there where natural problems occur since we can't actually other things from cutting the lines or having other interferences. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: Majharul Saiif on October 03, 2020, 11:53:07 AM Each and everything is now associated with internet, when there is some issue with internet automatically big loss is being experienced by every functional sector. In my country internet shutdowns takes place at times of protest, because the gathering of people were organised through the social media platforms. Corporate marketing generate majority of the revenue through the firms. Right.Corporate marketing will have many detrimental effects. But at present in this pendamic situation school-college-varsity in one word all kinds of educational institutions are closed. Online based education is available in all countries. Students will have to face many problems if the government shuts down the internet. I don't think it should be done considering all aspects. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: romero121 on October 03, 2020, 12:40:11 PM Not only to the corporate marketing, the entire network gets disturbed. Right now from small scale business to the corporate network each and everything is interconnected with the internet. Even small stores now have got their own QR code through which payments in digital form is possible. These days every form of education is happening through online classes. Upon the same shutdowns affect not only the corporate marketing, but has impact over everything.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: AicecreaME on October 03, 2020, 02:47:00 PM The corporate world badly needed Internet to almost every specific task they have to perform. Now that we're in the middle of a pandemic, most companies transitioned to online marketing to make profit and increase their sales. Losing internet connection for a short period of time can cost them a lot. What more if the internet shutdown lasted for a longer duration? It would surely put the corporations at the losing end.
If the government would limit the usage of Internet connection and do an Internet shutdown once in a while, many businesses will face a lot of losses. There would be chaos inside the company especially if the industry is related to business processing outsourcing. They would face many complaints and irate customers for such poor service because of sudden Internet connection loss. Similarly, businesses such as online shopping, banking, and the likes will be severely affected if ever. There would be a big negative effect to every industry as well as to the patronage of their goods and services. In our country, I never experience such thing so far. I believe the government of each country in general won't do it because their economy will be in danger. It would damage the economic dynamics and I certainly think they don't want that to happen either. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: pankowri on October 05, 2020, 05:29:12 PM Not only to the corporate marketing, the entire network gets disturbed. Right now from small scale business to the corporate network each and everything is interconnected with the internet. Even small stores now have got their own QR code through which payments in digital form is possible. These days every form of education is happening through online classes. Upon the same shutdowns affect not only the corporate marketing, but has impact over everything. I simply agree with you. Corporate marketing is not just about everything that is currently involved with the internet. So the effect will be felt everywhere :)This is 2020 and government should do his duty and people will do their. People has the right to discuss about government work or activities in publicly with mannar. Then the democracy will be ensured in general level. Otherwise, autocracy will continue and mostly people will suffer. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: goldade on October 05, 2020, 06:05:06 PM There was a brief total internet shutdown over here today that lasted for a few hours. All of the ISPs cut off internet access for some reason and then restored it back. It reminded me of the time mobile internet access was shut down for almost three months last year. Obviously they didn't touch broadband lines so that they didn't disrupt company operations and bring economic selling to a halt. But I have a reason to believe that civilians deprived of internet access is dangerous for companies trying to make a profit. In third-world countries, companies rely on social media platforms like Facebook for their marketing, advertising and to attract new customers. By shutting off internet access, you are effectively drying up their revenue streams, which cannot continue for too long (like for the course of months), or all of them will start reporting losses. Nearly all people here use 4G or 3G internet on their SIM cards, and not a router. So the more people using mobile internet in a country, the more drastic the consequences of an internet shutdown are for companies. Other countries appear to be importing Sudan's internet shutdown techniques (India (https://internetshutdowns.in/in-news), Ethiopia (https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/-internet-shutdown-cost-ethiopia-over-100m-netblocks-1906706)) but surely they have to know that by shutting down the internet, they are reducing company sales. Sure the company's operations themselves aren't affected, but how are they supposed to sustain them without sales? Of course a company that ships physical goods isn't affected by an internet shutdown, but they still lose their social media marketing abilities, because no one can read them. Seriously though, does anyone happen to know the cause for the loss of internet today? I, particularly, do agree with you. The shutdown of internet services is not only bad for corporate companies but also for small scale businesses especially startups. The world has been moving forward digitally over the years and it's only reasonable that companies that intend to make profits must follow the trend. I run a small scale business (graphics designing) and it is dependent on the internet and I run my services digitally. I do not have physical contact with my clients. All is required is for me to provide my services and then get paid. One can see that an internet shutdown will affect my business drastically. It should be however noted that it is not only companies and businesses that will be affected by an internet shutdown but also clients and consumers. Many consumers won't be able to buy goods and services especially those who have order goods from online shopping sites. Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: sana54210 on October 11, 2020, 08:09:35 AM I had lived through one worse than this, when our nation had civil unrest and millions of people went to streets, government found the solution in cutting down electricity to whole nation, obviously protests wasn't in all of the nation and they didn't need to do that but the kill switch completely stops it everywhere, it obviously made it very very difficult for them as well because when you go dark you go dark for everyone so they had to be ready for whatever they were planning and it was very quick but in just 2 hours of no electricity which was dangerous for many many reasons like health related as well, they did managed to send people back home, people didn't want to stay out protesting with zero electricity, no phones or anything worked neither so they all wanted to make sure they are at home with their loved ones and they are fine, so they went home.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: JuSayCo on October 11, 2020, 08:27:24 AM Nowadays, almost everyone is relying on the internet with their smart gadgets. So, if the Government will shut down the internet signal, it was just like killing the people and the business. Internet played a vital role in this modern time, and it's really hard for us if we lost the signal and get interrupted. Imagine those students that are having an online classes, those people that are working from home and the businesses that are using too much technology. This will kill the potential profits that we will be getting each time. Here in our country, we have the lowest internet speed in Asia and sometimes the signal are not so stable. That is why the government are working out on improving the internet speed so we cannot be interrupted with all our digital tasks/transactions at home.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: The cure on October 11, 2020, 01:10:58 PM Internet connection is very important in our daily lives, especially now that not only workers or businesses depends on it but also our children who study at home through online study. The government should not do this because through the internet, people can find a solution to earn money and live and no longer have to rely on help from them.
Title: Re: Internet shutdowns by governments are bad for corporate marketing Post by: finaleshot2016 on October 11, 2020, 05:33:57 PM Internet connection is very important in our daily lives, especially now that not only workers or businesses depends on it but also our children who study at home through online study. The government should not do this because through the internet, people can find a solution to earn money and live and no longer have to rely on help from them. Internet connection nowadays plays a great part in our lives and it is not easy to abandon this reliable technology because we can earn profit here and survive. It's not just about corporate or any business because even individuals, value this access to the internet because it a means of communication to their relatives in long distances.Especially right now where online classes are very mainstream right now, good internet is needed. We shouldn't always rely on traditional things, we should learn to adapt modern ways to advance our country, it's a wrong move to forbid people on using the internet. |
