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September 24, 2020, 01:01:30 PM
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I don't know if this is just a coincidence but one of the most popular ISP here in our country, PLDT/Smart is notifying their costumers for their maintenance starting tomorrow until the end of the month. Schools that are affected are already notifying the students about this to stop their online classes until the maintenance are done. Just how bad will be the effect of this maintenance to big companies and corporations that uses their services.

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September 24, 2020, 01:31:45 PM
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I don't know if this is just a coincidence but one of the most popular ISP here in our country, PLDT/Smart is notifying their costumers for their maintenance starting tomorrow until the end of the month. Schools that are affected are already notifying the students about this to stop their online classes until the maintenance are done. Just how bad will be the effect of this maintenance to big companies and corporations that uses their services.
Ofcourse it isn't related, PLDT/Smart will conduct emergency maintenance for the improvement of their service at the Asian American Gateway (AAG), one of PLDT’s international cable systems. Their maintenance has nothing to do with the internet shutdown by the government because the internet is one of the necessities in our country (it's obv.).

The internet shutdown in different aspects is a big problem. Even though simple maintenance will give a huge problem especially online classes.
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September 24, 2020, 03:02:54 PM
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hope this never happens..  I can't imagine what will happen to society if the government shut down (cut off) internet access.  In this modern era, the internet has become a human need (equivalent to eating, drinking and sex)..

Before internet, people have been doing business and there are even companies that have survived for centuries and during those dark days, that was when they witnessed some of their massive growth. Internet comes with its own advantage but it does not means that without it, people wont still find a way to transact and do business with one another. Now when government shut down the internet, while businesses whose existence relied on that, they would surely have their reason for doing that and that is what the citizens needs to find out whether their reasons are valid or not.
It is true, before that many had survived without the internet but when internet access was easy to achieve in this era, people became addicted to the internet and would not possibly come back (lived before the internet appeared)..

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September 24, 2020, 06:24:14 PM
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....PLDT/Smart will conduct emergency maintenance for the improvement of their service at the Asian American Gateway (AAG), one of PLDT’s international cable systems. Their maintenance has nothing to do with the internet shutdown by the government because the internet is one of the necessities in our country (it's obv.).

The internet shutdown in different aspects is a big problem. Even though simple maintenance will give a huge problem especially online classes.

And to other ISP's as well in PH.

No choice but to rely on "they will do something in order to minimize the problem that it will bring". As for the timing, I think it's just fine as it's better to start prior to weekends. In most cases, online classes are done on Weekdays. It's just 5 days so shouldn't be a problem (except for WFH).

As for the topic, shouldn't be a big deal as of now***. It's alarming if the shutdown happened without any reason. Don't know the technical reason behind it but I think a few hours shutdown won't create a panic that much. Yes, it might create concerns and worries so better watch what will happen next. After all, we are just speculators and relying on what we see on articles and news.

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September 25, 2020, 04:33:03 AM
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Seriously though, does anyone happen to know the cause for the loss of internet today?
The internet shutdown can bring sadness to people because many people have online works that depend on the internet. And if somehow, in his country, the internet is not online, it will make him can not work as usual. The internet has now become a primary thing for people, especially for the young generation who always connect to the internet. They will not be able to do many things, especially for playing games which many young generations did.
If those people are having struggles when there is internet shutdown, how much more to those companies who cannot continue to generate their sales because there is no internet access. Having an  internet shutdown even just for few hours is really a big loss for marketing companies even for those individuals who are making a living through internet connections.
I can not imagine how much the company's loss depends on the internet connection because that can make their business disturb. Everything that used the internet will also get the impact, and that can make people feel disappointed. If the internet connection is shut down, people can not stay online, and they will do something else that does not have internet. But maybe if the world war happens in almost all countries, that can affect the internet because the system communication will get trouble.




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September 25, 2020, 05:17:22 AM
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Almost everything is currently connected with the web, when there is some issue with the web naturally large misfortune is being experienced by each practical segment.
The government itself uses the internet to trace criminals I don't think they gonna shut it down.
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September 25, 2020, 05:24:27 AM
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Let's be honest - they turn off the Internet not to harm companies and businesses, but for completely different reasons.
A striking example in today's world life is Belarus, where the Internet was turned off during mass protests against the elections.

The only benefits recipients of disabling the Internet is  the government. Without the Internet, the vast majority of communication channels are lost, which can block the communication of protesters/terrorists/criminals in order to effectively counter them.
Well, or another benefit - when you turn off the Internet on the territory of combat operations to disrupt the coordination of the enemy. But this is a completely military thing, we will not touch them.
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September 25, 2020, 09:52:16 AM
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Let's be honest - they turn off the Internet not to harm companies and businesses, but for completely different reasons.
A striking example in today's world life is Belarus, where the Internet was turned off during mass protests against the elections.
The question is if the government are turning it off intentionally?

The only benefits recipients of disabling the Internet is  the government. Without the Internet, the vast majority of communication channels are lost, which can block the communication of protesters/terrorists/criminals in order to effectively counter them.
Well, or another benefit - when you turn off the Internet on the territory of combat operations to disrupt the coordination of the enemy. But this is a completely military thing, we will not touch them.
Well it good have some benefits, but we are talking about the net effects for companies and it could mean loss of millions of dollars. Just like the days when we have power crisis, electricity is on a rotation and brown out are more frequent to save it. And since everyone today are connection, specially in this pandemic wherein schools are done online, it has a drastic effect even for a minute if internet is shutdown.
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September 25, 2020, 06:29:35 PM
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I live in a developing country and I have not even heard about anything as such as internet shut down, but we do experience some issues with our internet connections due to some situations, but that used to be before we started having underground cables that are more stable now and even when it rains heavily network is still stable and you can still have access to the internet.

There has never been a time that the government shuts down the internet for any reason. And if they do, it would be very bad and will affect a lot of areas in the economy, especially those businesses that are into internet marketing, etc.
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September 26, 2020, 06:11:57 AM
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Let's be honest - they turn off the Internet not to harm companies and businesses, but for completely different reasons.
A striking example in today's world life is Belarus, where the Internet was turned off during mass protests against the elections.
The question is if the government are turning it off intentionally?

The only benefits recipients of disabling the Internet is  the government. Without the Internet, the vast majority of communication channels are lost, which can block the communication of protesters/terrorists/criminals in order to effectively counter them.
Well, or another benefit - when you turn off the Internet on the territory of combat operations to disrupt the coordination of the enemy. But this is a completely military thing, we will not touch them.
Well it good have some benefits, but we are talking about the net effects for companies and it could mean loss of millions of dollars. Just like the days when we have power crisis, electricity is on a rotation and brown out are more frequent to save it. And since everyone today are connection, specially in this pandemic wherein schools are done online, it has a drastic effect even for a minute if internet is shutdown.

So no one else has such great forces that would turn off the Internet on the territory of an entire country. Either the government of a country that itself arranges a shutdown for some tactical purposes-or the government of another country that has enough authority to do such things.

You understand that if you want, you can PHYSICALLY cut the ocean cables and the continents will remain inside your intranet without fast communication with others? Such a case is either the beginning of a war or a terrorist act. Ordinary people, even if it's just for sport, wouldn't think of such a thing, because it's like shooting yourself in the foot. But who knows what the authorities are capable of...
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September 26, 2020, 12:01:56 PM
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I have not heard any information that the government will shut down the internet everything in the world is done through the internet. In that case if the internet is shut down the government will suffer the most. The exchange of transaction information will do nothing which will cause the country's economy to slowly start to decline. Internet marketing will not stop as the demand for internet continues to grow and the current world is becoming digital.
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September 26, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
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Recently in my country, Venezuela, our internet service was affected due to a power outage. We have problems in the maintenance of the electrical system and also in the Internet service.
Venezuelans try to cope with their routines with all their difficulties in addition to the suffering that we have around the world such as the pandemic.
Perhaps you should investigate what happened in your country if it was intentional or if it happened as in my country unexpectedly as a result of a failure of the electrical system.

https://thevenezuelanjournal.com/most-of-venezuela-suffered-blackout-and-internet-failure-p2323-170.htm

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Government don't shutdown the internet on the whole country, they are doing it in the particular region right? So not much of the economic activities are going to get affected and internet has been shutdown normally to stop the communication between local people and outside people so no one other than people there knows exactly what is happening and this is normally implemented in tension between military and locals.

You're asking a strange question because, for instance, I can't recall a case in the EU where the Internet was shut down. It would paralyze the banking system because it wuold stop ATMs and electronic payments and as a result paralyze the country. Even politicians know they'd be affected by not being able to pay for a hotel room or a rented car with their card, unable to buy plane tickets and fly home to their families. There's not going to be any Internet shutdown in any country that isn't run by a crazy regime like North Korea or Venezuela.

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September 26, 2020, 06:16:25 PM
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Unfortunately when nations who do not know about tech that well have to find a way to prevent usage they go with this route. The main reason for this is the fact that the higher up powerful politicians and all of their advisors and consultants all are very old, they are at least 50+ and usually they could be as high as 70+ years old as well.

This means they were born before there was a computer, now we can face time each other, or have a watch that can give me all the results if I want, it is impossible for them to catch up with everyone, which causes them to not understand and can't prevent.

When 16 year olds go against 70 year olds in a battle for tech, there is no question who will win, younger generation will always be the one that will beat the older generation, even without internet.
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September 26, 2020, 06:39:27 PM
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Government don't shutdown the internet on the whole country, they are doing it in the particular region right? So not much of the economic activities are going to get affected and internet has been shutdown normally to stop the communication between local people and outside people so no one other than people there knows exactly what is happening and this is normally implemented in tension between military and locals.

You're asking a strange question because, for instance, I can't recall a case in the EU where the Internet was shut down. It would paralyze the banking system because it wuold stop ATMs and electronic payments and as a result paralyze the country. Even politicians know they'd be affected by not being able to pay for a hotel room or a rented car with their card, unable to buy plane tickets and fly home to their families. There's not going to be any Internet shutdown in any country that isn't run by a crazy regime like North Korea or Venezuela.

it sounded very related to politics. it would be very political if most of the owner of the internet service providers are pretty much very vocal about their position to the sitting president of the country.

its such unfortunate if the reason is business competition that the internet is shutdown. i doubt they will do all these when there is crisis.
politics is dirty and if its in US then shutting down mobile internet is crucial for Trump this election because he is also one of the president who uses social media to gain popularity.

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September 26, 2020, 08:27:13 PM
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I am sure the government will not shutdown the internet, because human activities are currently very dependent on the internet.
So the impact will be very bad without the internet, not only corporations will be affected if the internet is shut down. However,
the government will also be affected, because current government activities also require the internet.

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I am sure the government will not shutdown the internet, because human activities are currently very dependent on the internet.
So the impact will be very bad without the internet, not only corporations will be affected if the internet is shut down. However,
the government will also be affected, because current government activities also require the internet.

The world is going digital already even the central bank, so it's not right to shut down the internet in any reason.
Internet has become vital now as it's use everywhere and every activities, name it, online selling, online job and even online financial transaction.

Government should be sued if they'll do that.

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Society is moving most of its commercial activities to the internet, that's the trend. I don't think any country has turned down this growth opportunity. Turning off the internet is a job that goes against the laws of economic development, of society.
Internet-related problems can be caused by server issues, possibly from overload or fire. In our country, the internet connection is still attacked by a shark, the anchor line has broken. These situations do not last long.
In the future, Elon Musk's internet solution will certainly be favored as it appears to be more optimal over fiber but maybe a bit slower.

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I don't see any advantages by shutting downs the internet connection, it will make almost our activities getting difficult with reduce the effectiveness and efficient by using internet. Also it will affect to many sector especially in economy.



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September 27, 2020, 12:51:48 PM
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You do realize that this is last years that anyone can have a right to close down your internet. Google, tesla, facebook and basically all high level tech companies are working together in a tink tank type of situation (and fairly developed already) to provide internet to whole world without connection.

They are basically building a whole line of satellites that would provide the same exact internet to everyone in the world, they also have the greatest servers in the world without a doubt, so simply put they will just provide the fastest available internet with no limitations to everywhere in the world equally and it will be incredibly cheap as well. Obviously there is a cost when you build something like that but when you provide it to whole world it gets a lot more profitable, plus they like selling ads to you, so your internet could come with ads and for free as well, who knows?
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