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Title: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on September 21, 2020, 08:36:03 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-must-face-trial-after-appeal-for-summary-judgement-denied

Craig Wright Must Face Trial Over Alleged $11B Bitcoin Fortune as Request for Summary Judgment Denied


The District Court for the Southern District of Florida has denied Craig Wright’s request for summary judgment in a case that involves claims over ownership of about 1.1 million bitcoin (worth over $11 billion).

In an order signed on Monday, Judge Beth Bloom at the Florida court denied Wright’s motion seeking summary judgment that would have prevented the matter from proceeding to a full trial.

The case, first brought in 2018,  involves the plaintiff Ira Kleiman’s argument on behalf of the estate of his late brother David, that half of Wright’s bitcoin worth and intellectual property belongs to Kleiman. The plaintiff has argued that the bitcoin in question was also mined together by Wright and Kleiman.
Wright’s request for summary judgment was comprised of six claims including statute of limitations, the plaintiff’s inability to prove the existence of an oral partnership and the court’s lack of subject matter jurisdiction.
In the past, Wright has claimed that he was the inventor of bitcoin under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, an assertion many in the crypto world have disputed due to a lack of corroborating evidence.
According to an order issued by the Florida court on Sept. 4, the trial involving Wright’s bitcoin fortune has now been moved to Jan. 4, 2021.


Stick him in jail & throw away the key.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: seoincorporation on September 22, 2020, 01:47:22 AM
https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-must-face-trial-after-appeal-for-summary-judgement-denied

Craig Wright Must Face Trial Over Alleged $11B Bitcoin Fortune as Request for Summary Judgment Denied
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Well, the way to prove that he is the owner of those 1.1M BTC is by signing a transaction, not with a Judgment, because maybe if he wins the case, he would be able to claim he is the owner, but that wouldn't be enough to spend them. Not his keys mean not his coins, that's how it works.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: mk4 on September 22, 2020, 02:09:02 AM
Why this dude still isn't in jail or in a padded cell in a psychiatric ward is beyond me. Let alone why this dude still actually has followers on Twitter and on their "mEtAnEt" https://i.imgur.com/bOgwSuh.png community.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: Darker45 on September 22, 2020, 02:37:09 AM
This is what he gets by attracting too much attention. Well, be careful what you wish for. He was badly in need of attention. Now, look where he is.

Well, he owns at least $11 Billion in BTC as he claims. He could therefore afford to hire the best lawyers in town to take care of the cases. For him, he could spend his days doing what he loves, stress-free. Or does he own them? Either way, good luck to you, Satoshi. ;D


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: Shimmiry on September 22, 2020, 03:16:02 AM
Stick him in jail & throw away the key.

Why does this person still lurking around? Shouldn't he be jailed already? He's just making the crypto community at risk and making the crypto world on a much riskier situation. Either he claims were all true (which isn't), his money should've saved his ass sooner. Hope this guy would be jailed after I woke up later :D There should be no trials but rather direct him to prison lol

Why this dude still isn't in jail or in a padded cell in a psychiatric ward is beyond me. Let alone why this dude still actually has followers on Twitter and on their "mEtAnEt" https://i.imgur.com/bOgwSuh.png community.
Saving this pic for references. Don't really expect to come at this thread just prefer reading and saving the memes instead of the actual craig wright issue https://i.imgur.com/bOgwSuh.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/bOgwSuh.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/bOgwSuh.png


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: odolvlobo on September 22, 2020, 05:21:17 AM
Craig Wright Must Face Trial Over Alleged $11B Bitcoin Fortune as Request for Summary Judgment Denied
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Stick him in jail & throw away the key.

FYI, this is not a criminal trial. It's a lawsuit. There is no jail.

Craig Wright claims (without proof) that he is Satoshi, and that he has a million or so bitcoins (including bitcoins that were proven to not be his). Ira Kleiman claims that his deceased brother was partners with Wright and that his brother's estate owns half of those bitcoins.

Here is my prediction of the outcome: CSW will lose and Kleiman will be awarded half of the bitcoins. CSW will never deliver because he doesn't actually have them, but he will claim that he lost the keys in a boating accident. The lawsuits will go on until CSW loses everything.



Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: meanwords on September 22, 2020, 05:34:48 AM
To be honest, I don't really expect anything much about this trial since all the previous trials has proven that he can lie and extend this facade for a long time. He will probably find or forge another way to get away from the laws again.

Well, he owns at least $11 Billion in BTC as he claims. He could therefore afford to hire the best lawyers in town to take care of the cases. For him, he could spend his days doing what he loves, stress-free. Or does he own them? Either way, good luck to you, Satoshi. ;D

But fortunately enough, he doesn't own any of those coins lol.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: pakhitheboss on September 22, 2020, 05:48:31 AM
How many trials has he faced till now?

I thought he might be behind bars by now. This guy needs it to rethink his next move and strategy.

Waiting for result of this trial.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: glowing10 on September 22, 2020, 05:56:20 AM
How many trials has he faced till now?

I thought he might be behind bars by now. This guy needs it to rethink his next move and strategy.

Waiting for result of this trial.

He is responsible for his deeds and does purposely as well feel so like coming out and saying he is Satoshi etc and whole world now know that he is nothing more than liar. It’s strange though still he is out but may be soon law will take its action and will be given the spot where he needs to be for the act.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: pooya87 on September 22, 2020, 05:58:43 AM
i don't really care enough for this trial because it is mainly between these two people and isn't going to change anything in the end.
the CSW crimes i (and i think most bitcoiners) care about is the identity fraud and scamming newbies (another form of fraud) and he is not and probably will not ever be on trial for these crimes because there is no private plaintiff (the real Satoshi) which is required to really put him in jail.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: Bttzed03 on September 22, 2020, 12:00:46 PM
Craig Wright Must Face Trial Over Alleged $11B Bitcoin Fortune as Request for Summary Judgment Denied
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Stick him in jail & throw away the key.

FYI, this is not a criminal trial. It's a lawsuit. There is no jail.

Craig Wright claims (without proof) that he is Satoshi, and that he has a million or so bitcoins (including bitcoins that were proven to not be his). Ira Kleiman claims that his deceased brother was partners with Wright and that his brother's estate owns half of those bitcoins.

Here is my prediction of the outcome: CSW will lose and Kleiman will be awarded half of the bitcoins. CSW will never deliver because he doesn't actually have them, but he will claim that he lost the keys in a boating accident. The lawsuits will go on until CSW loses everything.
Hold on. So in the end, Kleiman still gets nothing even if he wins this lawsuit? If so, I don't know why Kleiman is clinging to the idea that Wright is Satoshi.

IIRC, there was another case that requires him to prove that he is the real Satoshi. Somebody please refresh my memory on that.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: plvbob0070 on September 22, 2020, 12:18:23 PM
He should be because he has the audacity to claim other people's assets. He should be brave enough to face the consequences of his dirty actions. He tricked people and manipulates them into thinking that he really is the one and only Satoshi Nakamoto. It will prove if his public statements are accurate, that he's the owner of the 1.1 million bitcoin. He's finally getting the recognition that he wants, but sadly it is because of the fraud that he committed. But tbh, I don't really have an interest in him nor this trial because I have already heard enough with his false claim.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: yazher on September 22, 2020, 12:37:37 PM
It took them too long to do it maybe now Craig has run out nonsense theory about him being Satoshi. He may be run out of money to pay them. Now he is facing the biggest challenge of his life where he maybe send to prison with his childish act. I mean, when the first time he claimed about being the real Satoshi didn't work, he didn't stopped with that. instead, he continue to spread that no matter what happened and look at him now he is going into something disatrious.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: Yamifoud on September 22, 2020, 12:41:04 PM
Well, he'd nothing to do with his life but just proclaim himself as Satoshi. He might just own the numbers (1.1mBTC) but not the keys that will prove him as the owner of this certain amount. He got this trial and he got acquitted but somehow nobody would like to believe him either. He's already out from having a good reputation and I don't think he needs either our sympathy.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: DeathAngel on September 22, 2020, 01:39:57 PM
Wright is a narcissist, he can’t code, he can’t sign a message from any early mined block let alone the Genesis block. The guy is a total moron, the sooner he is forgotten about the better. I’m sick of hearing about him tbh, I hope he doesn’t avoid jail time. He’s a slippery snake so a suspended sentence wouldn’t surprise me.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: skarais on September 22, 2020, 02:10:21 PM
Raft upstream, swim to shore, play first, then stress later. LOL

That seem to be what Craig Wright will go through with the end result of the debate over bitcoin he claim. So far he has not been able to prove anything about the claim as he can only speak with the help of his lawyer. If he is right then he can prove anything about $11 billion bitcoin in court or at least he can transfer 1 of all bitcoin. I thought he was just lying because he didnt have the key.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: Hallmader on September 22, 2020, 02:22:44 PM
CSW appears very entertained with this. He must be having fun undergoing trials and reading his name on newspapers over and over again. He must also love appearing in court with his suit and tie. I don't know what he feels but he might be feeling like he is someone like a VIP.

He should enjoy all this show because with this new update it looks like this will take some more time.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: nicecrypto on September 22, 2020, 02:55:28 PM
Once again the man will be on the spotlight and that is what he crave for I assume, so I don't think the man will feel bad even if he will be facing a lawsuit, maybe this another opportunity for him to try and convince the whole world that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: bitmover on September 22, 2020, 03:09:28 PM

Well, the way to prove that he is the owner of those 1.1M BTC is by signing a transaction, not with a Judgment, because maybe if he wins the case, he would be able to claim he is the owner, but that wouldn't be enough to spend them. Not his keys mean not his coins, that's how it works.

As far as I understand, the Judge is not going to decide the ownership  of those bitcoins.
Judge will decide what to do with a criminal who claims to be someone else to make money, fooling people around.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: Bitcoinenthusiasts23 on September 22, 2020, 06:55:20 PM
Lol, if he claims he has $11 billion, he can easily hire the best lawyers and his aim would be to delay the final verdict by as much as he can so that he can enjoy life with his fortune lol.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: DoublerHunter on September 22, 2020, 09:05:49 PM
As far as I understand, the Judge is not going to decide the ownership  of those bitcoins.
Judge will decide what to do with a criminal who claims to be someone else to make money, fooling people around.
^ Definitely right, that belongs to stealing Bitcoin identy.
My goodness my dear Craig Wright. Why did you leave your day job? Do you think the bitcoin developers are stupid enough to have their legals
vulnerable?  People knows how you use legals just to claim it, it doesn't work with bitcoin. Why don't your try the murals instead? Heard that is more profitable and easy to own.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: Oilacris on September 22, 2020, 09:18:56 PM
This is what he gets by attracting too much attention. Well, be careful what you wish for. He was badly in need of attention. Now, look where he is.

Well, he owns at least $11 Billion in BTC as he claims. He could therefore afford to hire the best lawyers in town to take care of the cases. For him, he could spend his days doing what he loves, stress-free. Or does he own them? Either way, good luck to you, Satoshi. ;D
Maybe he do realized that he's fucked up on all the bullshit things that he had done in the past on where he's trying to claim that he's the creator of bitcoin and do claim that he owns a million bitcoin.

There would be circumstances and the time has come.I wont be surprised if we would see some picture of CW on touching those jail bars. This troll never ever learn and just really seeking for some attention
even the public or the entire community do already knows on whats the truth. Real Satoshi wont really be just simply claiming out himself into the public.

Lol, if he claims he has $11 billion, he can easily hire the best lawyers and his aim would be to delay the final verdict by as much as he can so that he can enjoy life with his fortune lol.
Exactly, if i do have those billions then you wont really be scare off on what would be the charges you would face off yet you can hire out the best lawyers out there since youre a billionaire.  :D
and thats if he do really owns those bitcoins which we know that its a big joke.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: iRaMMuS34 on September 22, 2020, 09:32:02 PM
It's been a long time since I last heard of him, and now I realize he STILL is dealing with these lawsuits and trials. I do knot envy that poor nut, he's definitely got mental issues


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: seoincorporation on September 22, 2020, 09:47:03 PM
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As far as I understand, the Judge is not going to decide the ownership  of those bitcoins.
Judge will decide what to do with a criminal who claims to be someone else to make money, fooling people around.

Then it looks bad for him. He played a risky game, made a bad bet, and lose. But each action has consequences on this life, so, nos he will have to pay for his acts.

I have the feeling that he has enough money to avoid jail, but let's see what happens.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: BitcoinFX on September 23, 2020, 10:51:53 AM
:D

...snip...

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"Legal commentary: rofl."
- https://twitter.com/stephendpalley/status/1300536102374301697

...snip...

Legal commentary: ROTFLSHMSFOAIDMT

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"Must read.

The latest hot news in Kleiman v Wright, and, unsurprisingly, it's not looking good for our #Faketoshi."

- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1308092734184587264

THREAD ...

"... It's a 93 page decision!   I'm going to tweetify the tasty bits, so strap in. "
Source: - https://twitter.com/stephendpalley/status/1308073416025673728

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eic0DadWsAAdldw?format=png&name=small

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Source: - https://twitter.com/stephendpalley/status/1308073416025673728

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"This was a major loss by Wright in a detailed and well-supported opinion."
- https://twitter.com/stephendpalley/status/1308097228611956737

:D


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: 7788bitcoin on September 23, 2020, 12:21:03 PM
In the past, Wright has claimed that he was the inventor of bitcoin under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, an assertion many in the crypto world have disputed due to a lack of corroborating evidence.
According to an order issued by the Florida court on Sept. 4, the trial involving Wright’s bitcoin fortune has now been moved to Jan. 4, 2021.
Since Craig Wright has not corroborated his evidence according to his claims how can that be submissive in court that could implicate him, i know that he submitted some addresses through media but not sure about what he submitted his is own wallets as he is not transparent with his claims and we know that throughout history he always stand against or hide from the law ;D.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: vapourminer on September 23, 2020, 12:32:19 PM
ok since ive long lost the 4d chess narrative bit and other lunatic ideas that have floated through this, please refresh me brain: whats the end goal??

1. he want to prove hes satoshi and then owe to billions to Kleinman he cant access, because, well, hes not satoshi

2. he wants to lose this particular case, and be off the hook for 1/2 those "mined coins" he pretends to have
and so now he can tell Kleinman to sod off.

3. padded cell for life

4. profit?

im not really interested in this idiot but still, i am interested in a train wreck sort of way. and yes, i feel horrible about it too ;D


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on September 23, 2020, 12:37:30 PM
Is all that fake theater worth it at the end. Everyone knows know that he is not Satoshi and he really failed at trying to convince anyone.  
I saw a video of Craig Wright just recently and looking at his face seems for me that he had/have some heath issues. I can't tell from that bad quality of the video but he has some missing teeth.
https://twitter.com/zeroconfs1/status/1308632804217876480


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: kryptqnick on September 23, 2020, 12:43:34 PM
Craig Wright Must Face Trial Over Alleged $11B Bitcoin Fortune as Request for Summary Judgment Denied
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Stick him in jail & throw away the key.

FYI, this is not a criminal trial. It's a lawsuit. There is no jail.

Craig Wright claims (without proof) that he is Satoshi, and that he has a million or so bitcoins (including bitcoins that were proven to not be his). Ira Kleiman claims that his deceased brother was partners with Wright and that his brother's estate owns half of those bitcoins.

Here is my prediction of the outcome: CSW will lose and Kleiman will be awarded half of the bitcoins. CSW will never deliver because he doesn't actually have them, but he will claim that he lost the keys in a boating accident. The lawsuits will go on until CSW loses everything.


Your prognosis is still pretty positive, assuming that CSW will lose everything. I agree that Kleiman is likely to win, and that CSW is not likely to deliver (to be honest, I thought this already happened, and he was required to provide proof of access to those coins, with all that Tulip Trust sh*t that was supposed to be over by now, but somehow isn't. And surely, he'll lose a lot of money on those lawsuits. But they give him publicity, and I also think that he possesses the kind of wealth that is not likely to be drained by lawsuits. So he'll lose some stuff, but will remain rich nevertheless.


Title: Re: Craig Wright To Face Trial
Post by: pokeronlinestatus on September 23, 2020, 04:22:56 PM
It’s been a really long time that I last saw anyone mentioned the name Craig Wright, I even have forgotten about him. Some people are so dumb seriously, trying to claim what doesn’t belongs to you when you know for sure that there are no means that you’re going to be able to prove that to the court and to the world.

He would have avoided all these problems by just minding his business and not saying any word at all well, he chose to be a scammer and now he’s going to be for it as well. I don’t care about whatever is going to happen next to him, that’s none of my business, no time!