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Here is the thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276693.msg55218181#msg55218181


This is a clearly gambling service includes a token but we are promoting the service not the token. Why it is moved to token board?

Your ANN thread was promoting more than a gambling platform, and includes the road map of the token as well as information on staking and trading.

It also does not use Bitcoin and is run on an altcoin chain;
These could be the reason it was moved, but you can wait for a more accurate response from a mod/staff

Yeah there is a roadmap but for the platform not for the token. Second, there is no rule that accepting bitcoin is mandatory.  That would be illogical because it is on Tron chain.

Bitcoin means blockchain/decentralization and we did JustBet for decentralization and we don't deserve to be promoted on gambling section?

I think you can have another ANN for gambling side (only) and keep the current one on altcoin token announcement. There are some other projects which also have altcoin impleneted but they have BTC too as far as I can remember. Create an ANN which serves the purpose of gambling only and post that in gambling section. I think yyou will be good to go.

• An initial exchange offering and partnership with a trading platform is part of the roadmap. Gambling seems to be the major part of the platform, but you're promoting the entire platform.
• Yes, there is no specific rule limiting gambling projects to Bitcoin. But one which is exclusively run on an altcoin chain may be more fitting in the altcoins section.

All gambling projects can be promoted on the gambling section. Your ANN thread was likely reported and the mods agreed that it wasn't exclusively a gambling platform.

Maybe we need a new ANN thread just for the platform. Thanks

Your gambling site is like a hodgepodge, you mix tokens, gambling, sales, exchanges and so on, examples:

Maybe a mod, a little confused with your site, that's why it's moved, everything is included in your site's category like: coinmarketcap.

As far as I know gambling sites are not like your current gambling site, OP what is a gambling site in 2020, a new model.
If the mod moves your site to the Altcoin board, it's your own fault mixing up like a mixed vegetable.

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You have to separate the gambling site with tokens / coins, share the two boards.
1. Gambling.
2. Altcoin announcement.

I quickly read the topic, and it sounds like the same level of mumbo jumbo I remember from the ICO peak. So it fits right into the Altcoin Token board.

That's called gambling addiction.

I don't think you can call that "mining".

Most people can't do this.

You forgot to mention how much it is.

As some users have already pointed out, the main boards (that being any board not in the "Alternate cryptocurrencies" section) are meant for Bitcoin-related discussions. You yourself already mentioned that your service doesn't accept Bitcoin + promotes a service-specific altcoin token:



Which is the reason why it was moved to Tokens (Altcoins).

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You say that but have you actually read them? From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0):

I read you but still don't understand. There is no rule on gambling section. There are only 2 rules

One thread per site ONLY
Giveaways/promos/etc do not belong in this forum!

As you see only 2 rules. Moderators don't have rights to move my thread to another section. JustBet is a gambling platform.

Rules don't get repeated on every board, the Unofficial rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) are valid on all boards.

Lol.

Ok tell me which rules?

^Good old rules that everyone (should) knows.
As long as you accept betting with Bitcoin, your thread can be in the gambling section, but if you don't, the place would be in the altcoin section.

There is no rule on the gambling section as you said.

May I suggest reading this topic again?

Come on LoyceV you still don't get it. We are not talking about a token here. We are talking about a gambling platform. Just.bet  go check it and go check the thread. You seem smart you can understand easily.

It seems an arbitrary treatment. Clearly.

C'mon man, it's implied and doesn't have to be written in the way you like/understand.
There are many gambling platforms that offer tokens such as EOSBet/EarnBet, GooseBet, etc., and they smart enough to accept betting with Bitcoin.
Why don't you do it instead of complaining?

JustBet is a baby. Of course we will add more payment option in the near future. But still this doesn't mean we cannot publish our thread on that gambling board. You are all being so emotional as it is very clear there is no rule and there is no reason to move our thread. It is clearly that mods abusing the system. That's all thanks.

Quoting for reference.

What you've quoted are stickied threads. Stickied threads may denote certain rules (especially those that are often overlooked), but they don't list out all the rules. If, for a thought exercise, we were to be incredibly pedantic / de jure about it, AFAIK there is no single official definitive source of rules written down anywhere. This is intentional but doesn't mean that there are no rules. To quote a post from Bitcointalk's head admin, theymos:


So if a moderator decided to move your thread and the head admin, theymos, doesn't oppose it (or even supports that decision), the moderator in question very much has the "rights to move" your thread wherever. In reality though, there are certain rules and common practices to which all moderators adhere to (with some wiggle room for autonomous interpretation from the moderator's side as well as for exceptions to be made when theymos feels like it's warranted).

While I did previously mention that there is "no single official definitive source of rules written down anywhere", there are unofficial efforts to compile these (often unwritten) rules and common practices into a single source. One of these projects is the "Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0), which is a personal project of mine. The rule I've quoted in my previous post is from this thread. Links and translations of the thread are stickied across quite a few Bitcointalk boards so while it might contain inaccuracies, quite a few moderators have felt that it's accurate enough to be highlighted to new users that stumble upon the boards they moderate.

However, if you still feel like your topic was unfairly moved to a different board and that it does, indeed, belong in Gambling (either according to the often unwritten rules and common practices or due to this thread warranting an exception), you're free to appeal that decision by PMing Bitcointalk's head admin, theymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35).

What you are saying is very false and selfish.

You should obey the rules in this forum.
Rules for you, separate gambling with Altcoin.


The second rule for you, create a topic in accordance with the direction of the forum.

Topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=401897.0

You want to run a gambling site, your reputation must be properly maintained here and can be trusted by others.
Than arguing that is uncertain and you don't understand.

Thanks for your time to explain detailly. But I still have some concerns. As you explain there are unofficial efforts to compile these rules but How do I know these unofficial rules as a new member of the forum? At least mods should have warned us about that and we modify our thread. This is not nice we are waking up to a surprise.

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It is obvious you never checked what JustBet is. JustBet is a fully decentralized platform that doesnt need any reputition or trust.

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If you aren't aware of how Bitcointalk and its community functions before joining, AFAIK lurking is pretty much the only effective way to acquaint yourself with the forum's rules. In the context of an online forum, lurking is the practice of spending some time (e.g. several months or at least several weeks) casually (on and off) reading through a variety of topics and posts all around the forum. As you do so, whenever you encounter something unfamiliar (e.g. terminology, references to community culture, rules, etc.), you can familiarize with it through a bit of research (either via the forum's integrated search feature or via your preferred search engine). Rinse and repeat until you feel like you have a strong grasp on the community's rules and culture.

In terms of user friendliness, I can definitely agree that it's very much sub-optimal. However, to quote an older post of mine:


So if you want anything done in regards to newbie-friendly info on how the forum functions, you're going to have to petition the head admin, theymos. Even if you manage to convince him that your changes are necessary and in line with the aforementioned ideals, you might have to wait till the new forum software (the currently in development forum software suite) replaces the heavily modified SMF 1.x the forum currently runs on.

Basically this is bitcointalk forum but admin gave freedom to discuss about altcoins as well but you can't expect the non altcoins platform to be in the main boards.What is wrong with adding bitcoin as your payment mode?

It's a decentralized gambling platform on Tron as JustBet said. It will probably take more time to add another payment option from another blockchain like Bitcoin. Blockchain interoperability or cross-chain payment isn't that fast to build and implement I suppose.

You can't modify your thread and make it fit for the gambling section if your platform doesn't accept Bitcoin. Think about adding Bitcoin as a payment option and give it another try in the gambling section.

I do agree with you that the rules are not clearly stated in the gambling sub-forum, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Go to Meta and you will find them there. If you read Newbies - Read before posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0) in the Beginners & Help section, there is also a link to the forum rules there.