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I just wanted to provide a thread for people to be able to semi freely discuss the quote below without having their stuff deleted by the OP.

My first complaint is that vod's thread is self modded... that's a really poor/nonserious way of taking complaints.  I would think that someone on a "default trust" in a blockchain/cryptocurrency based community forum would be a bit more tasteful, but who knows who cares! :P

I also don't care for his blind hatred towards OGNasty... most of which seems uncalled for from my point of view.  I'd love to understand why or how someone could dislike OGNasty... Nasty has been a standup person for years.

Probably a good idea, since I just had a post deleted very quickly from that thread which I reposted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277084.msg55246028#msg55246028) in the active thread about Vod being on DT.  He said he would counter any criticism in his thread, so I'm curious as to why the tiny bit that I gave him was nuked instead of replied to--not that I heavily criticized him or expected a refutation.  In fact, the second feud I made reference to I couldn't even recall the full details of--but I'm pretty sure Vod knows what I'm referring to.

Off-topic:  I could use some more of those shiny stickers with the QR code if you can spare some.  I'm still sticking them to things on my bicycle rides.

Vod deleted all posts, but Vod dont deleted a suchmoon's post here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277553.msg55245914#msg55245914

What does it mean? Maybe they are friends? What is this circus for?

Update: suchmoon is Vod's buddy

Feedback from suchmoon to Vod (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=30747)

I didn't say that - I said I would refute/answer any accusations presented with evidence.

I don' think you or Bay criticized me at all... I just want to keep the thread free of comments/opinions and just focus on things I have done wrong.  :)

Vod has told countless lies about me, left me dozens of false feedback ratings, left false feedback ratings for others who associate with me, abused his merit source position, attempted to extort me, and has been an all around jackass.  There are 40+ pages in the below thread already displaying his childish actions, and that is just towards me, who is a respected member of this community.  He has bullied many others who haven't had a strong foundation on which to defend themselves and decided to instead find new places to participate with Bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.0

He's also an attention whore who is making new threads about himself all over the forum.  An example would be the self-moderated thread that this thread had to be made to counter, as well as this ridiculous thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276092.0) where Vod pretends he's contributed here instead of being a nuisance.

First I will say he is not the worst on DT1

However vod

1. Admitted being afraid to tag lauda or exclude them because he was scared they would ruin his account.
Therefore didn't create a warning for others due to putting his own self interest first.

2. Vod is a trust abuser
a/ I notice he gave a user a red tag for deleting his 3rd accusation of OG being a liar when the thread starter stipulated to keep repeating this claim on his thread Vod must provide evidence. Vod claimed the user was preventing or perverting his message when the same accusation still remained there 2x. So nothing would have been any different.
b/ vod also gave a user a red tag for simply telling the truth about Vods self confessed brain death. He then said he never even said he had experienced serious brain death.

3. Most seriously of All. The thing that convinced me Vod has gone rogue was that he deliberately assisted in resisting a flag for his proven scammer pal lauda. The independently verifiable evidence of the scamming was on the flag linking page. He has refused to even present his reasoning for opposing the flag. Nobody was able to refute the evidence because it is one of the most conclusive examples of lying and deceiving for financial gain I have seen.

4. He is constantly praising and protecting 2 proven scammers lauda and tman and misleading people as to their true characters. He also seems to collude or be close with other scammy individuals that share this scammer protecting and facilitating behavior.

He is not a scammer himself but is a pathetic old fool that will protect and enable scammers if they will be his friends. This is still dangerous behavior and he should be kept away from DT.

bump!  :)

They think they're attacking my escrow business and hurting me with this action.  In reality, an automated escrow will only help the scammers here sell illegal products and fraudulent accounts that escrow agents like myself won't assist with.  Vod has a history of his sites being hacked and losing data.  This is a perfect example of users doing something stupid that will assist scammers here to try and hurt someone else and making the community a worse place while opening themselves up to liability they won't be able to cover when things go wrong.  This little attempt to hurt me is going to end in tears for them, and will be a hilarious lesson in shooting yourself in the foot.  For those who will lose money as a result, I'm sorry that you thought Vod was someone you could trust with your funds.  He's not.

Bumping to encourage discussion!   Have I done anything wrong, or am I just accused of it for deflection?

Hilariously vod deleted this post and changed his demand from things he has done wrong must no longer just be accompanied by evidence they must be accompanied by " concise " evidence.

I guess he doesn't want the truth posted on his own self moderated thread.

Here's an overview of all (un)edited/deleted posts in that topic: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5277553.html
Any time you post (or quote) this link, it gets updated.

Excellent.  As long as the data is there (and here) there is nothing wrong with my keeping that topic clean for things I have done wrong.


I don't expect intelligent people to have to wade through pages of garbage, like the post I deleted of yours. 

"You also admitted", "You also deliberately protected" -- your opinions are not things I have done wrong.   If you want to complain how I posted information I gathered from the internet, do it with a link showing the evidence - even if you need to create a thread yourself to show it concisely.  I have no problem admitting exactly what I did, but don't muddy it with unfounded claims and your biased opinions.  Just the facts ma'am.

The pages of garbage with your own posts quoted as proof that fully corroborate the things you have undeniable done wrong ?


Which statements that I made about you do you wish to attempt to refute?
The links I provided detail specifically the points I made.

Pick one.

Are you claiming you didn't do these things ?
Bring me the specifics here. Which of the things I mentioned do you claim did not take place?

I will work through any of the these events with you step by step.

You are claiming they didnt happen? or just the evidence is not presented as you say it should be ?
You claim you deleted the post because people should not have to click a link?

I mean anyone can claim their actions are not deliberate but if at anytime you can remove or reverse those actions and you do not and you are unwilling to debate those actions then it seems very unlikely they are not deliberate. What excuse will you come up with next. I can't wait.

I would love to get into specifics with you but I know you will run away.

Prove me wrong. Don't run. Debate publically you actions.
Lets see.

Okay number 1

Did you dox the forum treasurer? Yes or no?
Was it wrong?

Just be honest.

That is SUPER cool.  Great build dude.

Anyone willing to join the discord server https://discord.gg/MynAgXK, look for themselves to see that I'm not running a "small group working together to scam"?

since vod is too lazy to do his own research I'll post more screenshots here. https://imgur.com/a/EDLvuFK

Vod, I think you shouldn't worry too much about people posting right/wrong criticism about you. Let people come at you with what they got, its not gonna hurt you or your actual reputation. So long as you be truthful to yourself, and stay on the right side, there is nothing to fear, right?

I also think, you and Og should talk it out like normal adult people, instead of calling each other liars or any other nicknames yall have given each other. If QS and lauda can solve matters between one another, I am sure you two can do the same as well. Its 2020 afterall.

Of course the things he's done wrong won't hurt his reputation here.
His reputation is already that of a doxer of the forum treasurer, trust abuser and scammer facilitator.

Another Vod Vs. OG thread just what the forum needs, more drama... Not self modded too!

Let's fuel it then.


Do you consider OGNasty's "business" a ponzi, or not?

Because ponzi promoters ans ponzi sellers are always hated here. (maybe there are some exceptions, is there?)

This thread is to list the things vod has done wrong. Not an OG vs vod thread.

Besides many would consider bitcoin a ponzi.

Vod has done things wrong. The most serious of which is facilitating and protecting scammers. When you oppose a flag based upon indisputable evidence of scamming you are the lowest of the low.

Especially when he has previously admitted he was too scared to tag the same scammer before because he thought they would tag his account as retaliation.

This is exactly why the trust system is dangerous

Not agreeing with your opinion is lower than embezzling 25 million dollars?   Your bias is clear.

I made a thread where you can post the accusation along with the proof and it won't be deleted or get lost in other nonsense posts.  :)

No. There is a clear definition of scamming.  Lying or deliberately deceiving for financial gain.

So when someone deliberately lies and deceives for financial gain they are scammers.

You dare not attempt to present a counter argument because there is no other explanation.

You can't say that this is a matter of opinion. The evidence is irrefutable.

You are found to be opposing legitmate scam warnings to protect your scammer friends.

2 of your pals are undeniably guilty of this and yet you still protect and defend them.
You are a scammer protector.

The quote were referenced where you said you dare not tag or exclude lauda because they may ruin your account.
That is a cowardly and pathetic excuse and demonstrates you are not fit for DT1

Also you did 100% dox the forum treasurer I know it and you know it
Deleting it from your thread because you say there is a lack of evidence is just attempting to hide the truth.

You are simply lying and trying to hide your past and present wrongs here

You look even more shady deleting these things from your thread.

KaneVWE, I'll tell you again - I'm done with the drama you trolls cause.  My thread is one where you can't just spew out drunk nonsense. 

If you want to accuse me of something, do it here where I can't delete it.   One accusation (at a time), no other opinions or nonsense, or else I'll simply ignore you.  :)

Perfect example of someone like vod trying to mislead the reader by trying to label independently verifiable evidence as trolling.
I mean how can this be permitted. ?  Watch and see everything I have said about vod is independently verifiable.


Let's take it step by step.

Did you dox the forum treasurer on this forum?

Causing even theymos to agree leaving red trust on you was appropriate?

Yes or no?

No more deleting or screaming trolling did you do it yes or no?

Let's await the moronic flimsy excuses and running away.

Just one excuse from now on - I can't see what you even write.  :)

Are your eyes broken?  Can you make a single post without lying you poor excuse for a boy? 

^ ^ Can't see what that idiot writes either.   

If you know something I have done wrong, now is the time to post!  :)

Thanks, that's what running away looks like.
I guess Vod thinks everyone has dementia or suffering serious brain death like himself and have forgotten all about the incident.

Didn't want any of my step by step to the inexorable truth did he.
Pulled the old suchmoon scuttle on me.

He claims "Only partially repaid a loan he made three years ago " when i repaid 3 times the amount of the loan vs fiat at the time, and 3 times the value he given to the coin (was too good telling him actual price).
 Blackmails and threatens to kill users in PM. While i WARNED i WOULD kill a scam piece of shit i never blackmailed, seemingly notifying users you will take measures unless they rectify their issues is blackmailing.

Notetovod: Yes I negative rated you right after or even before giving you the warning cuz fuck you and your kind.

Edited to clear up confusion

I believe bayareacoins created this thread because he thought it would bring me headaches, but it actually helped justify my self modded thread.

I asked for a list only - no comments, questions or discussion.  I have deleted both positive and negative comments that did not contain the information I was looking for.  

But self modded is not acceptable to a sociopath like OGNasty.   His irrelevant offtopic question had no place in my thread, but that didn't stop him from drunkenly posting it again and again.  Even after it was clear his question didn't belong there - he kept pushing it because he is more important than the rest of us.  Thank you to LoyceV for recording it.

I understand one of his felony convictions now.   No does not mean no to a sociopath.  :/

100% wrong.  I did figure you'd be unable to restrain yourself from helping keep this thread bumped, thus pimping my signature moar.  :P ;D

Plus, I don't like having "relevant" posts deleted.  I think a LOT of people (more than not) are the same.

People are more likely to make a real post on this thread, than they are on your *delete delete delete* thread, and you'll get better honest feedback!  I'm sure you're a fan of honest feedback.

Edit:  You're calling me names, accusing me of being drunk and attacking me now?  mkkkk calm down... lol!  Sticks and stones and you aren't my supervisor Vod.  :-*

Double Edit:   Vod responded in the next post.  My bad!  <3

Not you Bay... OG.   It was worded poorly; sorry.

You may trust the wrong people, but you are no sociopath.  :)

Double Edit:   Vod responded in the next post.  My bad!  <3

All good!  I was slightly hurt for a second. haha, fixed with a double edit.

At least it shows you don't go leaving negatives for every single hurt feeling, like others do. 

Give yourself a triple edit and enjoy life for a change!  :)

There's dozens of pages of your behavior here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.0

Given your history, it might be easier to list things you haven't done wrong.  You've helped expose pieces of shit on this forum by having users here who stick up for your behavior.

A mod decided to delete one of my posts in my self moderated thread.

@LoyceV, did your bot record it was deleted by a mod?  I don't want to repost it because I just wanted the scammer to read it.  @mod, I would have deleted it myself in 24 hours, so thank you.  You can continue to help by deleting any posts sight unseen from OGNasty.  I cannot see what he writes, and if he had any evidence he would have posted it years ago and ran Google and forum ads promoting it.

I have been done with Mr. OG for months now, and want to move on to new development.   I have provided evidence to anyone who understands crypto, and once I have time to provide the proof, it will be up to your countries law enforcement - I need no more information from him.


He is being exceptionally persistent, even for a sociopath.  No does not mean no to a felon, especially on a drunk Saturday night.    He will not force himself on me.

Let's start with an update: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5277553.html

I don't keep track of posts deleted by Mods, but modlog (https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php) shows only one of your posts in your topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277553.0) was deleted by a Mod:
So I assume it's this one (https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5277553_2020-10-04_Sun_13.40h.html#msg55310707).

Funny, Vod spreads lies about me and harasses me for years, then says he doesn’t want to play anymore and thinks I’ll pretend it never happened. LOL.

Vod, you’re going to need to admit everything you said about me was bullshit that you made up, remove all abusive feedback and slanderous posts, and quit harassing me outside of this forum if you want me to quit making your behavior known. If not, I will continue to rub your nose in the truth. Be a man and admit the truth or continue being treated like a lying little bitch. Those are your options.

Visibility quote.

Don't be a trouble maker.  I have him on ignore for a reason.  :)


More extortion?  I choose to ignore you until you go away, and then make your sexual felonies and pedophile friendly behavior known to your prison mates.   I think I'll win in the reputation game.

It's too bad you saw this all as a joke, even after you were audited last year. 

I was never playing with you.  :/

You are a joke Vod. I’ve never been audited. These kinds of lies are probably why you have no friends, your family won’t speak to you, and you can’t hold a minimum wage job.

I obviously have no fear of your threats and will continue to show what a lying delusional bitch you are. You will learn your lesson and come clean about your lies. It’s up to you how long it takes.

I deleted the following from my official list,  to help future submissions. 


Opinion has no place in an official list.

You made two accusations that are valid.

1) I published someone's name/address
2) I tried to get said person fired

Can you validate the first, and describe why it's wrong without your opinion (in italic)?

I agree completely.  Vod is merely a way to see who the desperate users are that will support any bad behavior if they think it has a chance to elevate their trust ratings.  Having Vod on your trust list at this point is untrustworthy behavior in itself.  Not surprising to see the merit whores and trust abusers flocking to his defense while any sane person just adds ~Vod to their trust settings and hits the ignore button on his lying pedophile ass.

What happens when you make a non-moderated thread about Vod’s behavior?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281132.0

Just a reminder that Vod is a piece of shit.

^^ If anything you are writing is true, post it in the official thread, where it will not be deleted.  :)

I have locked my thread since there was no actual evidence.  The "lower standard of evidence" discussion may continue here.

Someone give this dude a merit

Vod recently hijacked a thread and even gave a negative rating to a user who was actually trying to help a coronavirus cause.

User Mbitr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1781771) tried to raise funds for a covid-19 relief cause managed by (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246208.0) Royse777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366632)

It was thankfully Yogg who seemed to know Mbitr and solved the unwanted scene created by Vod without any proofs just based on his own assumptions and I will give the benefit of doubt to Vod that most scammers might react in the way Mbitr did but given his profile and credibility, I am shocked one would leave negative feedback.

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What Royse77 felt was exactly what I thought as well, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243099.msg56307821#msg56307821

Even Yogg was not impressed with Vod, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313960.msg56285831#msg56285831

Obviously Mbitr wasn't pleased either, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313960.msg56285384#msg56285384

Vod is setting poor examples for people who are trying to help the community and a good cause, while Vod himself never donated a single penny.

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A humble request to Vod - Please grow up and come out of that negative mentality you are living in for years and keep your problems with OG aside but at least don't trouble others who are helping a good cause, since you are not helping at least let others help.

You are precious to the forum but being a dickhead to members who don't even know you, doesn't represent you correctly :)