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he problem with new video cards is that they do not keep the factory overclocking and crash in games and software, where the video processor frequency is higher than 2000 MHz.

The reason is the wrong line-up of filter capacitors that do not hold high frequencies. Now we have found out
that you need to use a combined circuit (use multiple types of capacitors) for excellent performance.

EVGA and Founders Edition use a combined setup.
The marriage was not recognized in Nvidia, but the forums recommend not to increase the frequencies, but to underestimate with the help of utilities

Bad decision, better not to buy first releases
ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 Trinity
https://www.zotac.com/ru/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3080-trinity
https://i.ibb.co/0fZsfM0/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/THRWH8Q)
6 tantalum capacitors

Good decision
GeForce-RTX-3080-GAMING-TRIO-10G
https://ru.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-RTX-3080-GAMING-TRIO-10G
The video card uses 5 aluminum polymer capacitors and 10 ceramic
https://i.ibb.co/V9ygVFg/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/jfKyhCy)

ROG-STRIX-RTX3080-10G-GAMING
https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/ROG-STRIX-RTX3080-10G-GAMING/
https://i.ibb.co/MyTbF2M/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/PspRqmw)
aluminum polymer capacitors 6 pieces

ACUS (STRIX GAMING and TUF GAMING) and MCI (GAMING-TRIO and Ventus) are already changing capacitors in new versions.

Replacement for Asus
Before replacement    After replacement
https://i.ibb.co/rM9YkHw/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/HYZ67qH)

Replacement at MSI GAMING
https://i.ibb.co/TKqSSr9/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/k36ffMN)

Replacement at MSI Ventus
https://i.ibb.co/c6kN2rk/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/N9tLWyt)

How did you end up solving the Nvidia problem? Easy, new drivers have been released, where the processor GPU frequency does not rise above 2000 MHz; D; D; D
But we added software optimization, so the FPS for many games has grown.

Information collected from open sources, forums, YouTube channels.

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMns8t4OhI0 , it explains it all.

Toms Hardware had a big article on this issue.

My take is Basically all owners with six identical caps would be best off doing an rma.

And simply say my gear crashes.

Note all the blower units direct from Nvidia.com should be mixed cap.


Here is an opinion nvidia knew the problem and still let

 msi asus gigabyte send the bad design out.

ATrue fuck you to those companies and a true fuck you to loyal buyers of that gear.

Pls read Igor's article on this issue, all other youtube videos /articles are based on his research and don't understand whats going on.

https://www.igorslab.de/en/what-real-what-can-be-investigative-within-the-crashes-and-instabilities-of-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-und-rtx-3090-and-the-crash-why-the-capacitors-are-so-important-and-what-are-the-object-behind/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/wonder-how-invidia-the-crashes-of-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090-will-be-removed-and-still-will-be-removed-even-from-the-power-supplies-analysis/

This new hardware from nvidia gain lots of attention specially their 3090 that worth almost $2k, but I see that there's also a humor of problem about this card, well see if Claymore and Phoenix will solve this problem in their mining software.

I would be stunned if software will solve it.

Other than crippling ram speed to 1900 - 1975 or so.

Newer upcoming models from manufacturers will fix the issue..the issue on cheaping out on components LOL!

If i will get me one i will go for Gigabyte 3090 maybe !
Or does anybody already have some kind experience with this cards from Gigabyte ?

https://www.caseking.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3090-eagle-oc-24g-24576-mb-gddr6x-gcgb-329.html  (https://www.caseking.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3090-eagle-oc-24g-24576-mb-gddr6x-gcgb-329.html)

My favorite is this one if i decide to get me one .

https://www.caseking.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-oc-24g-24576-mb-gddr6x-gcgb-328.html (https://www.caseking.de/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-oc-24g-24576-mb-gddr6x-gcgb-328.html)

You best double check on gigabyte. They cheaped out on their 3080 caps hehe

Gigabyte isn't the smartest choice. Check this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_1A0vifsZg

Also available in english if you prefer.

Almost every gigabyte gpu I ever owned needed to be sent back as an RMA

I don't recommend them.

It looks like the Asus may be best choice on these .

Frankly I would just wait a while before I purchase any of them.

I dont have any problems with my last GPU since they was coming out , i have the Gigabyte Aorus GTX 1080 Ti 11G !
Never got any problems with it on mining or on other things like gaming even in the summer when its hot.
I bought one the first when they was going on the sell if they was aviable.

1080 (Ti) are really great, still have plenty of them running without any problems.
2080 (Ti) are already crap. The coolers are too cheap, the cards will run too hot if you mine with them, compared to other brands. Sold them all long time ago.
3080/3090 same story, check the videos. Components are the cheapest. The cooler is crap. The power cable slot is a joke and will break if you unplug the cables frequently. The backplate is a design fail, because the right fan cant blow enough air trough the card as intended.

cable slot is standard 8pin pcie for non-founders edition. so no problem there

3080 is not an "overhaul" upgrade to a miner if he..did not setup rigs with 1000w or below PSUs (lack of pcie cable, efficiency is lower by getting far away from 50% load )
 
 - you must use separate 2 pcie cable instead of 1 pcie cable(with two 8pin socket), (you can still get away with 1 pcie cable with 1080ti)

 - with more power the mining room should have enough temperature allowance (room will be hotter) and gpu spacing is good enough.

components will be fixed with new model releases. asus tuf 3080 didn't cheap out on components BTW.

it was the cheap components (caps) that cannot handle those high frequencies.

last driver update nvidia fix problem by not let card boost more than 2000 MHz

It's funny, $700 gpu's with $5 capacitors instead of $15 and then you rma and they say it was your fault hehe

unfortunately this is a problem that some of the new rtx have, i hope nvidia fix this as soon as possible
anyway, thank you for sharing!  :)

I found a video on youtube, where the game crashed while recording
he was using a 3090 oc gigabyte (skip to 9 minutes)
the gameplay was in PT-BR language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcTZcVWRyYk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcTZcVWRyYk)

Igor's Lab was the first to make an observation (not a definitive note of blame) regarding the capacitors. Of course every tech channel wanted their clickbait videos uploaded for maximum crisis views. Hadware Unboxed had a much calmer and methodical review of the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhyCdraz54s

There's always a chance the 1st iteration will bear some great abilities that the manufacturers will quickly nerf. In this case the first iteration simply had a little power delivery issue which will be fixed on next production run. Suffices to say this card was rushed to production.

Nvidia should be subject to a class action lawsuit over this particular release.

It would be nice to see it happen.

Most likely that will never happen.
I simply don’t understand why nvidia has shit releases over and over and over and over again.

more of a complaint about shortages and somewhat of bad parts.

The only saving grace was I was not able to buy one ☝️ so no real loss for me.

gamers hate miners (crypto people) due to buying up the cards.

now they get the taste of crypto---just like buying shitcoins after an exchange listing LOL  :D

If the problem is the architecture of the elements on the printed circuit board, then I think manufacturers can fix it in a timely manner by changing the configuration to avoid such overheating, the main thing is to recognize this and find a technical solution, just of course such a start for a new generation of Nvidia cards is alarming and will make many refrain from buying Nvidia Amper cards for a while, it's good that I refused to pre-order them. :(

The issue as I see it was a tradeoff between better heat dissipation vs higher stable clock, One type of cap had better
heat disspation but was less stable at higher clock rates.

I don't know what went into the decision making so I won't challenge the decision one way or the other. The real problem,
IMO, is they didn't engineer the clock rates properly for the type of cap used.

This makes it more of a PR issue than anything else and I fear a PR solution. Had the boost clock rates been specified correctly
we wouldn't be having this problem. Now to save face they will be forced to meet the incorrect specs, likekly at some less
immediately visible cost, like shortened life span.



 

I think nVidia thought they could do the same thing as AMD did with their unstable drivers. The thing is nVidia is not AMD and 20-40% of their product is just selling image and reputation. This issue plus the card availability (or lack thereof) has really soured me on buying any 3xxx cards. I only wasted 10 minutes on launch day before I realize it was a 3 ring circus. They got reamed by the tech media and are hoping they can avoid the same issues with the 3070 - they sure as hell better have more than 30 minutes of supply.

Oh well, let's see how Big Navi turns out.

we can't say nvidia driver not have any issue but nvidia driver is better than amd and nvidia fix issue faster than amd.

i have amd driver issue black screen when not use screen around 20min and 18month past update last driver still have same problem  LOL

You have to look at the cards as a whole instead of looking at each individual card. nVidia drivers have typically been more reliable out the door but they've also been shown to consistently lower FPS in games in future driver releases. If you tend to play a mix of both new and old games you'll find the nVidia cards (in general) will lose performance with newer drivers. Compare this to Hawaii, Polaris and Navi cards which seem to improve as time goes on.

Catalyst drivers still feel bloated compared to nVidia's drivers but I like AMD hardware improving with age as opposed to team green.

same with me..any have solution?

That is okay at moment, eth profitability crashed very hard, only idiots are buying gpus to mine right now and from what is coming, the $0.40 per 30mhs net people are earning will become a negative if eth price does not rise very soon, forks to reduce profitability will soon turn dreams into nightmares hehe, eth needs to close to at least $800 by this years end in order to keep hopes and dreams alive hehe. We will see how it turns out.