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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles

Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people
I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer

so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust

It's a must to always check the bounty spreadsheet, it was very rampant years ago and many legit bounty hunters are losing their shares or getting their share by fake participants, there is now a verification method to lessen scammers getting shares by fake participants, there will always cheater in bounty campaign.

I know there are many bots and fake entries as well, the thing you are referring to is perhaps called hijacking but their is solution to every problem.
And in this case solution is not difficult, the person who has registered first with POA is the real participant all other entries are from fake hunters so you can ban them out of spreadsheet and campaign.

You should drop link for such bounty campaign, there are high rank members on this forum that hunts for bounty cheaters, it will help you a lot and again it's reasonable to use limited participants in bounties today, this will make your work more easier, even if there are cheaters you will find it easy to fish them out, telegram campaigns and social media campaigns are the most affected when it comes to cheating.

yes now we have to check spreadsheets often, I've also experienced that my social media account is used by other people and lost my rewards. it is very painful because we have tried to complete the task and someone uses it and then he gets the reward without doing anything
This is what doesn't make sense, newbie to the forum immediately joined the bounty campaign and his first post was PoA
Previously when I first joined this forum what I did was discussing how to get new money then following this campaign shows that he is an old person who creates multiple accounts to reap a lot of profit

And again I will like to look at your POA ( Proof of Authentication ) because I believe that if you asked for Bitcoin profile link and Ethereum address in the POA there is no way for cheaters to change this information unless they have access to bitcointalk account of every members that join the bounty campaign

Since long ago, I have disliked social media campaigns because the requirements were too easy, and the wages were too small. I suggest limiting social media campaigns with conditions such as having more than 1000 friends or 1000 followers. That's better, but if you want to be more stringent again, add the rules only bitcointalk accounts with a rank above full members who can join, that's my advice.

these kind of cheating was always so common in bounty campaign. it is not something new. I remember when i had an active steemit account before, i was posting something, and some other people were adding it to bounty campaigns and applying before me. They were too fast  :D. Bounty managers should be more active and respond to participants cheating reports.

Giving redtrust i think is not bad idea, but many bounty cheaters is Newbie rank/ they use new account.
If their account get redtrust, they can create more new account again and again. So, i think this only wasting time.
The only way is just tell to bounty managers to reject bounty cheater s and make limit in their bounty.

In my opinion, it would be nice to make a report form to overcome this, or make a solution that really does not harm someone, rather than giving negative trust to someone that they have not really done, it could be that their name is used by irresponsible elements, If you give negative trust to people who don't really do it, that is the negative trust will turn to you yourself, as an assistant bounty campaign manager, because you have harmed an innocent person, at least think first and find a good solution so as not to confuse someone , why am I talking like this, because I experience it that my name is used by someone in social media campaigns and I need to complain to the campaign manager, but there is no response from the system or campaign manager just saying, well I will check it, but until then this is my name is still there and has not been deleted by the campaign manager in the spreadsheet, Maybe it's better if you can ask an experienced campaign manager opinion on this problem, in order to get a good solution from them...

This might be sounds kinda unfair for some people, but in order to prevent bot attack or people that joining the bounty with multiple Newbie account, there must be a rules that only accepting minimum Junior member to be eligible for participating in the bounty program, this rules will be effective to be the solution of that matters.

I experience the same thing in 2018 when my bictointalk users name use by other members and report it to manager so they can remove it. the problem they are now wise that they are participating in a campaign where the real owners is also participants.

Thats the reason why the weekly report is born to avoid the cheating or reduce the cheater that participating in a campaign.

Try to change the rules like what said above only accept Jr.member and up rank to join.

This will show a certain level of either desperation or wickedness if any hunter will go copying other hunters' POA. What do they aim to achieve, BTW? To implicate others? This is pure wickedness. Well, that said. I believe getting hunters to write their receiving wallet address on their profile while applying for bounties will be a mechanism to prevent this. I mean, the cheats can't copy the wallet address too because the reward will go to the real owner. Again, you can have the affected hunters send you pm from their accounts here, stating their issue. This is a very simple way of nailing the cheats. I have fallen victim of this in the past and that was how it was resolved. Sometimes, one doesn't even get to know that one's account name is being used for bounties. It's really sad. And thanks for making attempts to checkmate this.

Cheaters always have their ways to cheat and get rewards for it. And whether they are noticeable or not, they probably will not think about it. Like trying their luck, if the Bounty manager, team, and also participants are not aware of the cheaters, they will get the rewards and vice versa.
Moreover, there are also several cheaters that also use similar profile link and POA to join certain signature campaigns, but with different wallet address. The thing to pay attention to here is on the username, sometimes, they will add or change one letter of the original username, so that if we do not pay attention carefully, we will miss it.

And yeah, it may be one of the tasks done by the bounty manager and also its team. But, as a participant, we should also help check whether the cheaters also use our name, social media, and others. I think that it is easy to be done if every participant can help check for self information.

really, giving them the red flag is just a waste of our time...
bounty cheaters will not run out of wits when the red flag is on their account, they will definitely create a new account. I have asked several bounty managers not to accept newbies in any campaign including social media, articles, and telegrams so that cheaters don't have the opportunity to be greedy in a campaign.

Managers have to deal with it and can’t be stop as long as the bounty keeps accepting newbie account, they can banned it anytime but the cheater will always find a way to create a new account.

There’s a lot of good bounties here in the forum, and the managers are working well enough to caught those cheaters, they wont succeed after all. Though this is alarming to see such cheaters, as a bounty hunter you should also monitor your details on the sheet because cheaters are using your information with a different address, so stay attentive.

It is always been the work of bounty cheater. I already encountered it several times when my entry in google spreadsheet had doubled submission. It is the importance of having the so called "Proof of Authentication". With this act by other managers, cheating in bounty can never be done. I hope that there will become stronger policies or ways to prevent cheating in bounties because the real bounty hunter is deceived by the fake one.



Giving red trust to them is good idea but it sucks. They eventually gather new accounts to spam and cheat the bounties again.

This is a welcomed advise to fend off cheapers. i can't imagine running a twitter bounty with registration of over 5000 participants. i never anticipate such moves by cheaters using peoples twitter account to cheat. now you have made it public. i think the best option is put a red trust to any body caught in the act. it will go along way in reducing culprits.

bounty cheater always occur in any bounty campaign , moreover if this campaign was legit one. our profile our data in spreadsheet many time re-register by them with their payment address. and bounty manager must delligent when they face it, there are many various methode to remove them from campaign.usually bounty manager will regularly check participant data by re confirmed data in POA and google form. and we must active to check our data , is it used by cheater or not.

Very interesting topics for me because of how these new users know how to chase sugar. Maybe some experienced members behind this scam or maybe they don't know about negative trust. Now I believe that it is not possible to wipe out from cryptocurrency all bounty hunters or scam teams. A little more active in the spreadsheet can stop those cheaters.

This is not a new case. I saw this kind of case is 3 years ago and still, now they are doing the same. I don't know why they do this. maximum time they go caught but they think they will get the money easily. But real members faced and get harassed by the mods or DT members.

well, some people still think that they think that this forum place can make money even though what you are looking for here is knowledge of cryptocurrency and can find out many cases of scams that have occurred, DT will provide very decisive action for members who commit this crime.

that's true. the cheaters in social media campaigns is a common sight in bounty campaigns. maybe redtrust will work for cheaters who joined the signature campaign only, but not for other campaigns like social media, article, etc. since they don't need any rank requirement. also i always see the social media campaign with a limit participants, but they still caught so many cheaters on it. so i think making limit is not a solution too.

Participants needs to complete the tasks to get rewards for the week right? How people can post on such social media accounts if they doesn't belong to the user they joined so eventually they will go with zero rewards rights?

Be careful with the people joins on signature campaign because people uses someone's BTT account link and their own address to receive funds that is why oroof of authentication is important for bounty campaign.

I think the only way to avoid cheaters from stealing account is to make the users post one more authentication in their social media accounts.

It would be much faster if people post their username or authentication post number from btt to their social media then add that to their authentication post in btt to make sure that this is their account, that way bounty campaign managers can be sure that applicants are really owning their social media accounts and not just stolen.

Users should also add their post from social media that authenticates their btt account in every post of proof of work so that way cheaters will have no way to steal accounts.

Now you are asking "what if they want to hide their btt account from the public?", can't be helped since bounty hunters are already making themselves known to the public by using their social media accounts to bounty hunt here. Also, it's not like the majority of the bounty hunters are using their "real" social media accounts anyway.

Just a suggestion though.

One of the weaknesses of novice bounty managers is that they don't enforce this rule. We know that Proof of Authentication is very important for campaign participants to be rewarded for their work.
We all certainly don't want our content to be stolen on every campaign just because there is no strong evidence to confirm that it's our content, even though in fact it happens because there is no proof of auth using posts on Bitcointalk.
This thread can be used as a reference for bounty managers who want to run campaigns and want competition between participants to occur fairly.

This usually happens a lot in social media campaigns where low ranked accounts or even newbie accounts are allowed to participate as long as you have a social media account. It's really difficult to verify which accounts are stolen or fake since there are over hundreds of participants there.  I also see some automated posts or bots who join this campaign, especially those who are submitting their entries, spamming even when the bounty already ended.

It's happening common for now.But if you find them,you can prove and get them a negative trust easily.Because this forum with a legit moderators.Only thing is,you should find them with a proof.And not only bounty hunters cheating,some bounty manager will cheat in some bounty.It's hard to find them also.

The bounty managers work is so tiring if there are so many participants and they should really look thoroughly of each participants to kick out all of the cheater or they could just create a rule that they wouldn't accept newbies to jr accounts since this is the common ranks of the cheaters.
But as a bounty project they need all the publicity they could get in order to attract potential clients so excluding those rank could also affect their publicity and they might also exclude some real bounty hunters that are just low rank and not a bounty cheater.

By the way there few bounty hunters only participating in, because they can't handle more bounties because lot of project expecting it's real but in the last it will scam. At the same time many participants making a duplicate on spreadsheets.

Looks like the fradulence is reaching an all time high at the moment as we are slowly but surely approaching another epic Bitcoin bull run. I see many accounts getting removed from the campaigns as well due to this. The bounty managers are keeping an vigilant eye to stop scammers and duplicate account runners.

What you say has become a bit of a common practice in the social media campaigns that's why you should always participate in a campaign that has reputed and non-lazy campaign managers otherwise the rewards will get distributed to fake users.

It will not work if they are only using newbie account to register. It means its a disposable account so even how many times you will tag them they will create new account and  continue what they are doing like nothing is happen .

The one I think who need to work hard for this is the a manager that handling That campaign  its a hard task for him but that the only option to pay the right people that participating .

Sometimes it just an accident that they duplicate to filled the form but it is often intentional to cheat the bounty campaign . those person that busy   with other important thing  to do will never think about doing this kind of cheating.  but for others that  they are doing that kind of work of fraud and  cheating its just a normal day for them to do that.

They continue doing this because its beneficial for them .

Sorry to say but social media campaigns is like a nest of thieves, i always wonder how bounty managers are able to handle the huge number of participants, it is almost frightening when you will see social media sheets, it runs in thousands some times the number of participants that will apply,  and one funny thing is, when you look at the official social media page of the said project, you will see that the number of their followers those not equal with what it showed on spreadsheet which means many hunters will just join the campaign without bothering about following or liking the social media of the project.
i guess this idea is good, for those who engage in social media campaign should endeavor to report any members who is using their social media account falsely. 

i have seen several complaints against them and even DT members are being used by these faker ,that is why what you did is best in every project.
checking each profile they use because these scammers are good at it.
Hope the project you are managing will go through this and comes out to success,you deserve a respect for your job well done.

I want to share how I'm trying to account from every participants to prevents any duplication or stealing account.

1. Authentication posts check
From this we will see a twitter profile from participants. Just to make sure you can see another authentication post, if he have several twitter account, it may be fake

2. ETH Address check
All bounty hunter need ETH address, you can try to check their ETH address, maybe they are have connected address, helpful topic Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2020 Q4) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.0)

3. Twitter account
Now, you can try to check his twitter account, he is active or not, new or old. If there recently wake up account, may you can consider to reject him.

How to make this work efficience? You can use search feature (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=search) and choose google search. or you can use this way from google search page


4. Mark duplication on your sheet
I think you are understand about this

I have seen in some bounties where at least junior member rank is required to participate, I think this can be a good solution to stop scammers to participate in bounties if all bounty manager consider on this point and implement on it then scammers will definitely fail in their scam attempts.

That's a good job, but that's the risk of any job where you are tested to check carefully, at least avoid cheaters from doing that and don't just accept cheaters like other bounty managers who often make mistakes like that, my advice is that you and the team should find new ways to deal with the cheaters so that there are no more cases like this

The job of a bounty manager is to fish out every cheaters on bounty spreadsheet, only inexperienced bounty managers don't know how to go about this, proof of Authentication is very important and I don't see how it can be changed, using POA alone solves cheating depending on the vital information requested on the form and POA

Cheaters have always been and will be. I came across them several times in bounty companies. I was more annoyed when you yourself found cheaters in the spreadsheet who copy your socials, wrote to the manager one, two, three times, but he doesnt react and automatically counts points for everyone. There is no fairness in such bounty with such a manager. Therefore, you need to stick to those who do their job in good faith.

yes, I first heard about that problem in 2018, besides that there were also many multiple accounts. That would be annoying, apart from the bounty which is currently in a difficult situation, there are many people who are still cheating to get bigger profits in this situation, in my opinion it is also wrong.

Bounty managers don't exclude any rank in the social media campaign, probably they have different amount of rewards for different number of follower/friends but the task is going to be the same, so more and more about the project on social media then more attention they will get.Limiting the participants in the only way to done the work more accurately or else people will keep joining until the campaign ends.

It happens especially with Discord, Telegram, and Medium campaign. You can see there are over 3000 sometimes 5000 submissions in those campaigns. You can not prevent this so my suggestion is to not allow newbie accounts in those campaigns. Those cheaters can not have 100 of jr member or higher rank account. Allow newbie account only on Youtube, Article campaign. That is the fastest and easy solution. If we give them Neg Trust they will open up another account.

Tagging those cheaters by ourselves will not work, negative trust given by a normal member cannot be seen by any other member but only to ourselves. The best way is to approach the bounty manager, since it is part of their job, they will sort all the names of those cheaters then they can create an accusation. Then the DT will probably tag them and everyone can determine those cheaters.

I used to find my links dublicated in bounty spreadsheets numerous times. More often such things could be seen on blog campaigns) i think that now it is hard to receive a good forum status, so such a risk is not worthy as the cheater would get negative trust and won't be able to take part in bounties at all)

Common accounts who are using other peoples social media profiles are those newbies. Even if they will be given a negative trust, they can just create another account and participate over and over again. The best practice is to increase your requirements in ranks and have more strict rules. This way, newly created accounts will not be able to participate and you can at least decrease the possible participants of your campaign.

Some of these are untraceable they just submit the works of other bounty hunters and just change the wallet address I have seen so many times back when there are still no verification, without verification the bounty managers have no way in knowing which of these entries are the real submitter of the report in applies on all bounty campaign, on signature , on twitter on Facebook, that is why post verification is very important.

its not enough for bounty cheater, they must banned so possibilities to claim someone work will decrease alot. forum moderator need to filtered new registration ,it will make limitation for cheater moved. bounty manager and bounty supporter must active checking participant list in spreadsheet, so if cheater found it could deleted immediately.

Its quite common in bounties though I dont experience such situation.

This is the reason why its a must to double check the spreadsheet and report to the manager if you see something unusual.

Sometimes the manager cant notice it, thats why the cooperation of every bounty hunters are important to spot a cheater.

Thats the reason why i dont join on social media bounties, lots of participants and most of the entries are from the same person, stealing profile others and use them.

It depends on the bounty manager some veteran bounty hunters can easily trace those cheaters, and if you are active in bounty campaign you should also check the spreadsheet from time to time to avoid double entries coming from cheaters this is to protect your stakes, you are working for yourself not from cheaters.

I believe that the solution to the problem depends not only on the manager of the bounty company, but also on each Bounty Hunter who has registered. One should always check the spreadsheet for any irregularities and notify the Bounty Manager, while demanding that errors be corrected to get rid of cheating.

Giving negative trust will not limit them,

As he said, newbies can always create their new account to participate again. But it can still help to decrease the cheaters of the campaign. It's been a problem even before, even those popular members here are being used to participate by cheaters just to receive more rewards.

The manager’s job is difficult, this kind of thing is one problem that often occurs in a project led by each manager. Cheaters are definitely very detrimental to all of us. And you also become more extra work to overcome this. My solution is that restrictions on participants may help your work a little to limit the wiggle room of cheaters who take advantage of others.

What's wrong with using other people's social media account? As far as I know, you are allowed to have multiple accounts (as long as you are not ban evading). If you don't want users to with multiple accounts to join your campaign, mention it on the rules. Do the same if people aren't allowed to use other peoples social media account. Not, if participants break the rules, it is your responsibility to remove them from the campaign. You are getting paid for that.
Like I said, you are getting paid for it. If you think you can't handle it, then tell the person who hired you to find someone more suitable to do the job.

Not going to happen. I mean, why would someone care about the participants breaking the rules if they themselves aren't a part of that bounty program?

Yes it's true that there's a lot of cheaters in bounty campaigns I think you should not let newbie join your campaign since newbie accounts can easily be created and anyone can be abusive about it or if you can think of someways to prevent it that's better but I can assure to you that it's unavoidable in bounty campaign so the managers should prepare a good strategy to protect the campaign for abuse.

Managers should start collecting tokens from projects before starting a campaign and distribute it themselves instead of relying on project owners. This way they can be sure that people get paid on time, consequentially you'll get more hunters reporting cheaters.

You can limit the number of participants that you can easily manage. If you can't tell who is cheater, that only means you have too many people in your campaign.

Both of the above options will help you gain better reputation and avoid cheaters.

It's your problem with your participants. You have been getting hired by the owner to clean the campaign from the people who have used others account.

You can at least try to find a formula to prevent it to happen. As a manager and it's your responsibility to find the unique way to verify your participants. You should not always rely with the old method.

Since i join any signature campaign, i never found cheater steal account link to join same signature bounty. I think the bounty managers is too weak if accepting double users in 1 campaign.  :D

Its very rampant nowadays, cheaters keep cheating but they won’t succeed. That’s why proof of authentication per bounty campaign should be mandatory, its one way of sweeping scammers not giving them chance to earn a cent. Some projects push kyc because of these fools.

Most Twitter and Facebook accounts that participate in bounty campaigns are created only for the purpose of participating in bounty campaigns. They have a mutual subscription with other participants of bounty campaigns. I draw conclusions based on the fact that most of the participants in their profiles can see that they follow thousands of people and have thousands of followers themselves. Personally it's hard for me to keep track of what the 30 people I follow write)

not only that, there are many cases that take advantage of bounty campaigns, one of which is with bots that register quickly and use someone else's identity, so that it will be detrimental to those who have that identity, maybe you can only use the method of registering once on google form so that it can overcome problems like this.

Bounty managers should be interested in getting rid of unscrupulous members of the Bounty company. I also support the ability to fill in Google registration form only once, so that no one can register another account in the bounty company, even using a VPN. If there is such a possibility, then this can really greatly improve the situation for the better. I believe that we should always apply to the Bounty manager with the appropriate requirement.

 Both the Bounty manager/assistant and bounty participant must work together to curb campaign fraud/cheaters. It's difficult to the part of the BM to check one by one but if  the participant will become aware and always do checking the spreadsheet ,also then report to the BM it much better.

If you act as an assistant manager on several bounty campaign and find several fraudulent account that try to trick the campaign into harming other, there is nothing wrong with marking their profile with a red tag with valid evidence. That would at least help block their activity as much as possible.

In my opinion, the OP can also advise the manager to limit the ranking of participant received in the campaign so that not many similar cases occur in the future in the campaign you are managing. Not accepting Newbie user is a great way to prevent them from using other people's data in any campaign. I don't think they will consider the reputation of their account even if it is known to be fake as they can create more similar account and do it again. I think this restriction can help. Only my thought.

Being a manager is really hard some manager don't just check the participants but also looking to bust out cheaters. That's why being bounty manager is one of the hardest work just by looking at the participants in one project you will see a lot of enrolled user what if the bounty manager is holding more than one project.

About the users who are cheating it's really visible some users are using alt accounts some of them have more than 2 or maybe it's hard to spot which users are really cheating.

It's quite common now.
Someone needs to do verification of people owning these accounts sometimes.
There are users here being a victim when they don't even do anything in cheating bounties.
Bounty campaigns are quite vulnerable to these because it is mostly done in the Google Forms.

Yes. Only full member and up should only be allowed to join the campaign and it should be an active account before they can be finally called a participant. Honestly, it's really unfair for those who are doing their best for the campaign and yet, they only get very small rewards. Cheaters will always find a way to cheat but if the campaign has high standards, it would be hard for them to act as one.

thanks for the advice. I will convey it to my friends who often join social media campaigns.
Well, some of my friends often tell their experiences about their accounts being used by other people, often this is missed by the bounty manager because the number of participants is so large that my friend has to make a personal message to overcome this. It takes cooperation and care, so that everyone gets their reward fairly.
As this happens so often, it looks like there must be a better POA strategy. For example, by linking your bitcointalk account on social media profiles.

Did you see the what he has written? he said that POA is not an effective way to filter the participants from the scammers. There must be another way to make sure the scammers can't participate in the campaign. It's just like try to make people to put the link to the his btt account on his social media and it can be enough to prove whether it's a real or fake.

Somehow some hunters realize that bounty manager audit process is very easy to pass and bounty hunters take this advantage. How can one user use another profile when we know that spreadsheet has to access to find multiple links? If hunters can inform bounty manager, this process will no longer be possible.

I have read cheater bounty participants and have to immediately share my experience. I got kicked out of a bounty because someone cheated of me, this someone copied my wallet and posted it as theirs. And ive imvested so much time in that project only to be kicked out.

These problems are really blatant on such bounty campaigns because of these people wanted to game the system and the people who are innocents really paid the consequences due to the abused from cheating participants.  Some uses bots to do it especially on telegram campaign wherein it's rampant and i myself was a victim of it. The work loads of bounty managers are heavy because they need to double check every entries of participants to filter cheaters from legit ones.

Good thing that people like you dare to find and check on cheaters who creates multiple accounts in this forum to abuse bounty campaigns in this forum. Unlike other users, they are honest and only make one account for them to learn and earn here on the bitcointalk forum at the same time. I also notice some low-rank members here who have the same posting style on similar threads; that is why signature campaigns nowadays only accept high-rank members to avoid multiple accounts.

I still don't get it. How will they doing the task if they are using other's social media account ?
For example twitter, you need to re tweet or make new tweet about the project, and how will they make tweet if they just using other's twitter account ?
What i often see is the opposite, cheaters using their social media account, but using other's bitcointalk account, and proof of authentication is very useful to prevent this case.

They must be eliminated from this forum immediately, this is a crime that really harms bounty hunters. Actually bounty managers can solve this problem if they really work at their best. All we can do is keep checking the spreadsheet on the bounty we are working on and report with solid evidence when we find someone using our account to join

They always find the way to pass the screening of Bounty Manager, so I thing we can not prevent these cheaters. That's why now bounty spend very little money for hunters, and the requirements of the quests were very high. Currrently the way to restrict participants by rank of bitcointalk is probably the most optimistic.

Yes you are right here that many cheater now using real mens ID and social media profile but i think its easy to trace that cheater. As a manager you can say to real hunter to set their wallet address to Location of profile and that address must have to fill with registration. So a cheater can not use another persons wallet address and if you find the difference the wallet address you can trace the cheater.

thanks.

It's a very difficult thing while they can make more and more new accounts again and this point has already pointed out by someone above us. The managers must have cheked the spreadsheet anytime to prevent this case to happen again and again. In fact if there are so many managers didn't even check it regularly even they were getting paid.

Some formulas have already mentioned by some users too and it's really worth to try.

the cheater bounty hunter shows of his personal incompetency that developer might have with different option of punishment as they work with solid team member as focusing on distinct with objective as the manage on pros as preparing project to  launch and reach of guesses with the appeals on marketing scheme.

Nowadays social media bounty campaigns are been over run by bots, have been a victim of this bots, my BTT profile link and name was used to register in a telegram bounty campaign, with a different telegram name and a different wallet address, when it comes to social media bounties it is always overrunned by bots, cheaters always have their way to cheat and get rewards, it's inevitable there will always be cheaters in any social media bounty campaign.

This is a problem that is often encountered, because it is difficult to know who is the user who cheated. I've found someone who uses my account to register in a bounty that I follow but with a wallet that does not belong to me. And strangely he gets a stake in social media, maybe because too many have joined the social media bounty so the manager miss that.

Currently, there are many bounty projects that have sprung up on this forum, thus attracting the attention of cheaters back into action. And to minimize unwanted things from happening, either from your account or your reward after promoting the project to completion, the only way is to detect the fraudster's wallet address. because it is very unlikely if the Cheater writes a POA with the original owner's ETH address. true or false?

This problem existed since 2018. Unfortunately the honest bounty hunters are the hardest hit group. As a result of these cheaters, the per capita reward goes down drastically and in the end the honest bounty hunter will be left with $5 or $10 in return after working hard for 2-3 months. On the other hand, the cheaters use 20-30 accounts simultaneously and in the end they will easily earn $100-$400 from a single campaign. There is no 100% effective method to prevent this. For starters, you can limit the participation of social media profiles, which do more than three campaigns simultaneously.

hmm, I think this is quite detrimental to many parties, especially the original account owner because he could be accused of using someone else's account.
but it seems like some hunters have realized this, I have seen in telegram bounty groups, some people make complaints on the basis of their accounts being used by other people, etc.
so it looks like they are aware of it and trying to prevent this.

Yes I've also seen some users using other users credential but using their own wallet address to register there's a lot of cheaters in the bounty it might be really stressful for the bounty manager to check the spreadsheet and find the cheaters at the same time.

As long as there are bounties, so many cheater accounts are used to increase their share in the campaign. Here is one of the latest cases of the "JACS.tech" bounty, in which a participant has the same problem as you described: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282485.0 Those members who participate in the bounty, they can track that their account is being used by others. But those who do not participate in the bounty will not be able to constantly track all the spreadsheets to find their data in them.

This is the common problems to the bounty managers as the cheaters are always there and they are doing their best to get a free money without doing some works as they are just using the others work and they will submit it as their works. So if the bounty managers didn't have enough resources in order to detect this kind of cheat then there is a big possibility that they can earn a free money.

So as a bounty managers, it will be good if you can impose some counter to this kind of cheat in order to avoid paying those cheaters and for them to stop their doings if they can see that they are not earning anymore from their tactics.

Won't it be better for you to ask them to send you a personal message on telegram. With that you'll be able differentiate between the real users and cheater.
This is pure wickedness, using multiple accounts and other people's credentials as yours in a particular bounty

The bounty cheaters will not really disappear, they are good cheaters and copy the link made by others then they will post it and pretending their own work. Pity people who work hard and spend time, then only what they have worked for will go to lazy copyists. Maybe sometimes because of the number of participants so it is no longer checked one by one, let's be observant and if we notice something else we have to immediately report it to the admin.

Get used to it and as part of your job then you do really need to have very long patience on dealing with this problem.Cheaters would always exist no matter what due to bounty campaign
do still give out chance to make money for some thats why abuses like this isnt something new and had been battling by most managers after all the years.Its up to you if you are really
that too persistent on cleaning up the mess or just let them do the abuse.Its your choice but form of abuse is always been illegal so its just right that consequences would be faced.
NEgative trust? They will just continue to create new one and the cycle continues.

I agree with you, those cheaters are most likely using other's bitcointalk username for the registration and using their own social media account to do the bounty task. This is why a Proof of Authentication post are the most important thing to prevent any cheaters on bounty program.

By looking at the POA it should be classified as a scammer and a real one. therefore between POA and Google form input must match. if anyone wants to change the wallet, they can ask to edit the POA. or for their social media account, we can ask to be included on their bitcointalk account profile. I thought it would be better to reduce scammers.

I think many bounty managers are now more aware of this scheme which make them stricter in their of their rules and policies. Also, they know now how check whether a bounty hunter is having a duplicate account or not which prohibit those cheater hunters in joining such bounty campaigns.

I concur with your argument that to give negative credentials to cheater bounties. Indeed, now the cheater bounty participants are starting to reappear using other people's social media profiles and this is very detrimental to genuine and honest participants.

What? Really? Thankful that I had never been going back to promote project that is not paying or mostly are scamming the investors and also the bounty hunters. Until now I have few tokens that are actually dead projects and no worth at all like team or management are abondonin the project. So sad and I wish that like those scenario will going to end one day. Who would be a crazy man likes to get scam or nit get paid with the work being done? No one of course so I think there should be  a way to stop this and hopefully people will going to see its negative effect to cryptocurrency.

Its the same thing happening again since 2017 , you are right checking what bounty or anything you want to participate , but it will happen no matter what we do, as long as you keep on joining a bounties, we can't control them on what they are going to do with all the information they have in the spreadheet

This problem is what often occurs and always recurs, bounty managers who must be more careful in checking spredshets, if left unchecked, might hurt honest bounty hunters,

If there is no proof of authentication then there will be a lot of cheaters in the spreadsheet, this is one of the beauty of proof of authentication it ease the job of bounty managers to trace the real owners of the report and submission, and for bounty hunters to feel comfortable doing their job.

Cheaters everywhere are, especially in bounty that gives free paid, they are always looking for opportunities to enter.

Actually for a manager it is easy to find a cheater, but the manager’s job becomes more inhibited by their existence. But since this is already the job of a manager, I think finding a cheater in a project is commonplace.

However, cheaters will definitely harm other participants because they just want to get paid without wanting to work.

We should always be vigilant as participants and always check spreadsheets, to prevent our btt accounts from being duplicated by cheaters.

Everyone should have their own tasks. What described topic starter, just the same is included in the list of responsibilities of bounty managers. Especially if there is a POA post, I don't see a problem at all.

They greedy about money for sure the number one reasons why they do that we know there is a lot of multiple accounts joining in bounty campaigns which is not good because instead of those spot who gets by the others who have only 1 account they already filled because of them. Joining multiple accounts in one campaign is really bad and hope they caught so it will not happen again.

This is really annoying and makes managing the spreadsheet more difficult when setting stakes for participants. To prevent these cheaters, you should not allow Newbie accounts to work, only Copper Member, and every participant who joins any campaign should publish PoA in the topic and put his wallet address in his profile, and it is better to have a spreadsheet to record all the work of the participants for all the campaigns every week, and each participant should put these links to the spreadsheet in order to be able to get the stakes.

This is not a matter of PoA or Tasks to be cleared, but because one person has multiple accounts that can take other people's quota, and this is very unjustified because each person only has one seat in the campaign instead of multiple seats.
Most of those who are caught cheating don't give up as long as they can access their accounts.
In most cases I would rather agree if the cheating account is banned permanently from being able to access the account forever.

Cheaters have always been very detrimental to real account users, and I have experienced it
myself where cheaters get the benefit while real account users don't get anything.

It is very difficult to prevent scams with social media bounty. I have seen instances where scammers were using 20-30 different accounts for the same campaign. You can't do much. If they are caught, then they will get banned from the campaign. But other than that, what we can do? Even if we manage to get their accounts pasted with red trust, they will just purchase another Bitcointalk account from the dark market.

Cheaters are present in every sphere of human activity and in such a poorly regulated sphere as crypto there will always be lots of cheaters.

some people also said that because when I saw the telegram bounty group many complaints were made by participants because someone used their account.
I think this case will continue to happen if there is no way out.

To minimize cheating like that, I think we have to name our social media accounts according to the name of our bitcointalk account, even if one day we lose our bitcointalk account, we can still change the name of our social media account according to our new bitcointalk account.
In this way, I think it will be very easy for bounty managers to verify which accounts of their bounty participants are genuine and which ones are cheating. Don't you think bounty managers should ask their bounty participants to do this now ?

yesterday I saw a bounty campaign like that, the google form was hit by a bot attack and did the input process quickly and used a random identity, so in my opinion some way out is to limit registration for those who want to participate in the bounty campaign.

In this case, only KYC remains, although for an experienced bounty hunter who has several accounts, this will not be an obstacle. You have suggestions how to deal with this?

Many bounty campaigns now are not allowing a newbie to join, even in social media, but if newbie allowed Bounty manager will give other rules for him like account must 3 months old, so don't worry about that, bounty managers is easy to remove it.

Maybe for this case, KYC is only the solution, but many participants not agree about KYC, so will skip the campaign

Bounty cheaters are smart and will probably avoid the campaign if it requires KYC. KYC might help but will not really solve the problem. The only solution I guess is for the bounty manager to be more thorough in the spreadsheet.

Bounty cheaters are everywhere now and you are right. What they do now is use peoples details for theirs. These cheaters are not newbies only but mostly high ranked members as I've seen so far.

^ This is not a new way of cheating bounty, even before this strategy of the cheating campaign has already existed. If you are a manager or co-assistant of the manager, you should know and aware of this. That is why most of the bounty managers as of now have a post-authentication for proof of joining the campaign even that is a telegram. Before, that is easy for them to fill up the form using other member's identity, but now it is difficult for them to abuse that kind of strategy.

Its look like an abuse to the part of campaign and it always been seen in social media campaign or telegram campaign. Moreover, the current bounties cannot anymore cheated when it comes to submission of participants due to POA or proof of authentication. I am also a victim of bounty cheating wherein my name in social media campaign has double submission before yet the eth address were different. If we noticed like that, we should seek some help in managers so that they can immediately solve the cheating problem in regards to participant.

KYC is really not a solution. not only for bounty cheaters, most of the honest bounty participants will also avoid the bounties that require KYC. we don't know that the project will end with legit or scam ones. it's really risky. the only solutions is the bounty managers must work harder to check it. creating some ideas or another way for participant POA. also, bounty managers must not enter all participant data in the spreadsheets. make a duplicate spreadsheets. one of them just show participants name or payment address only and it's open for public. and another one is for managers only for checking the participants data.

hey taufik, i know where they are from. they must be from India and Bangladesh :V

I also have experience managing bounties or being a BM assistant in 2019. Indeed, this case has often occurred and indeed many genuine or honest users feel disadvantaged if their BM is not careful. But one way is to check in detail, whether the person concerned is really the original user or not. But to do that, there will definitely be a lot of time wasted.

Some managers don't hide social media profile links in public spreadsheet. They create application form for people to fill in and apply but never mind to hide those profile links when they publicly show spreadsheet.

Cheaters can easily to get access to those sheets with links in Bounty topics and can save those social media profile links for cheating later. I don't think they can use those links too much because if they join social media campaigns, they will be required to make tweets, status on Twitter and Facebook, but they never get access to those accounts and won't be able to fullfil tasks. They only be able to cheat with unprofessional and lazy managers.

It has been their doing ever since especially now that bounty projects have started to get back to life like when it was first introduce before. I think the best the BM managements should is to implement the Form Links in order to verify the authenticity of the bounty participants by checking up on every profile link submitted in the report form.

To avoid this problem, it took a long time to check that many participants joined. Detailed examinations must be repeated. and I'm sure it doesn't happen to just one or two people. surely more than 10 people who feel aggrieved maybe even hundreds of people who feel aggrieved.

The scammers will never disappear, unless we can prevent them and turn off their movements so that they can't do something that can harm everyone, even though until now only a few projects have killed the movements of all con artists, some have still escaped the surveillance of the managers. campaign, so we can see which projects are good for tackling con artists which aren't.

It depends on what KYC the project will require. If you just upload scans of the identification document and a certificate from the housing and utilities sector that you live at this address, then scammers have already learned to circumvent this.

It's not easy to stop account scamers in this forum or known as Multi accounts in several campaigns or in one bounty campaign, even red trust alone is not enough to make a deterrent effect for them. they will continue to commit acts of cheating and I think it's a difficult job for the bounty manager to verify one by one which accounts are real or not.

Cheaters will continue to look for loopholes. They are smart, they are even able to read the situation so that they can steal and use other people's data without any suspicion. I think it will be difficult at eradicated because creating a Bitcointalk account is very easy.

and I think one way is to make minimum rules forum rank Member. 

In the past, people used to use my social media account for bounties, and sometimes the bounty manager didn't check again and was immediately given a stake, quite a lot so it was extra checking one by one the existing bounties or those who had never joined
quite annoyed,
well maybe the solution now to reduce cheaters
at least there is a limit on the rank or age of the account in this forum as well as a limit on participation, the rest will return to the performance of the bounty manager team

It will be less headache if the bounty manager accepts limited participants, this will make the managing work more easier and even if cheaters are among the participants it won't be a hard work doing some findings on the participants, bounty managers are the ones giving themselves hard times.

yes, cases like this have been around for a long time and it is not surprising to see a lot of cheaters joining the bounty campaign. This is especially the case with social media and telegram campaigns. and in my opinion a solution to solve this problem might be by limiting campaign participants, writing proof of registration in threads, sending weekly reports using google forms, etc. at least a little helps minimize the cheater's bounty.

That's right, I've experienced that my profile has been used for bounties. I sometimes focus on the project that I handle, but sometimes there are people who take advantage of it. I really appreciate the bounty manager who really sees the aspect of honesty.

The bounty manager has a responsibility in the forum and is required to how the project can be known by many people and be known by investors. If you blame the Bounty Manager for not limiting the number of participants, I think you are very wrong.
The bounty does not limit the number of participants because it wants to balance the token income of each participant (worth it), so there is no free fall when launching on the Exchange.
Many bounty managers receive bounties after the participant's bounty has been paid. that means they work, like a bounty hunter.
work without the certainty of salary and salary will be obtained if the project is successful. and if it fails, the bounty hunter and bounty manager will not get a salary.

because there are no limits participants, there are many participants, that's why we need to check and monitor carefully.

Isn't cheating something new on bitcointalk and it has been around for a long time, so why are you just surprised now?
And in my opinion, the way to find out if they are genuine or not only with the real owner's wallet and that can be seen in POA
By the way I don't have much time to check spreadsheets across multiple campaigns

I realize that POA is the genuine member all different sections are from counterfeit trackers so you can boycott them out of spreadsheet and mission. It is exceptionally excruciating in light of the fact that we have attempted to finish the errand and somebody utilizes it and afterward he gets the prize without taking any kind of action. That is the motivation behind why the week after week report is destined to stay away from the cheating or diminish the con artist that taking an interest in a mission.

Well, in my opinion we just have to get used to the fact that there have been cheaters as long as the community remembers working on bounties. It is really job of bounty managers to deal with this problem and you need to have a great amount of patience in dealing with this kind of problem. Cheaters will always be there regardless what you do in a bounty campaign. As long as money is involved and cryptocurrencies are like money, then cheaters will be there.

It's a lesson for all bounty managers that are allowing unlimited bounty hunters on their campaign, when cheaters take over it will make the job extremely hard, smart bounty managers will

1. Use limited participants
2. Use proof of Authentication
3. Allow forum active members only

That's right, the three points that you say are always used by bounty managers who are very professional in holding bounties, because they also don't want fraudsters to enter their projects, who sometimes can tarnish their reputation, so I like what you say this.

Limiting participants will not probably solve the issue, but it will benefit bounty hunters. By this, they will be rewarded more. I don't really know how proof of authentication helps bounty managers in solving the issue about cheater in bounties.

Cheaters on bounty campaigns cant be stop but there are few things that will lessen bounty hunters to cheat, one is through the authentication post,  second is limiting the participant, and lastly every participants should always check the spreadsheet if they see duplicate entries and report them to the bm.

In most of the bounties now a days, cheaters registered in social campaign using my details except wallet address. It is very difficult to check cheating in every campaign. When i find cheater using my details, i inform bounty manager to investigate and reject the cheater. Bounty managers should check every participants by their wallet address provided in the proof of authentication post. It will easily help bounty managers to find out a cheater.

Not only on social media campaign but on all bounty section. And these cheaters will not copy the profile link of a member but rather they will choose high rank members and copy details except the wallet address.

The only solution i think to stop cheating on bounty campiagns is
Limiting the bounty participant
Authentication post
And everyone that joins should also make a pm to the bounty manager on telegram that contains thier details to be checked if its real or not.

This dishonest act is becoming increasingly rampant in bounty campaigns. In my own case, it will be difficult for a cheater to use my account because my BTT profile name is similar to what I use across my social media handles: Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Telegram. My identity is constant.

I think bounty managers can simplify the problem by requiring hunters to probably post their proof of Authentication/registration on their social media as a proof of ownership before they begin tasks. It's a simple solution that will help solve the problem.

limits the participant isn't a solution to prevent cheaters on a campaign. Instead of limits or exploit your pm's box, it's far better to do KYC for each participants ( they could use/buy other KYC though). In the end, there is no 100% sure method to prevent cheater from a campaign

It seems that it's really tiring and stressful to be a bounty manager or at least assistant I tried to look before to some spreadsheet it looks like there's a lot of participants especially for the social media campaigns it's really hard since instead of just checking the participants the manager's work would also include looking for bounty cheaters so it's really a hard work.

a lot of users are doing scam, projects owners running to their participants, bounty managers who doesn't pay their participants and also the bounty hunters itself who uses different kind of abuse to bounty campaigns. it looks like whenever you go or whatever your status or position cheaters are all over around.

its been done before many times. for the honest ones, they may not be able to accept the fact that bounty campaigns are not moderated.

i know google can't identify ip address of users who fill the forms but if there is any other platform for it, it may be useful. if this is possible bounty managers may be able to identify cheaters through the ip addresses.

Kyc might really stop all the possible cheats but do you really think that it is really worth to ask out bounty participants yet we know that they are just advertisers? Not it isnt really that right.

Cheaters would always exist no matter what but they can be somewhat controlled if the manager is really just strict on inputting rules which would really limit out the possible cheat or abuse

via setting out lots of verifications that cheaters wont able to succeed if they do try to make multiple or make use of other accounts.

We cant stop cheaters if were talking about money. Anyone can do bad things if money is involve, they will do anything to cheat and get the money in the form of stealing.

One good solution to stop this kind of cheating is to limit bounty participants from Members and up only in this way this newbie accounts which is mostly created by cheaters and also spammers cannot join any campaign, Jr members is easy to achieve because you only need a single merit to rank up thats why Im proposing to only accept Members+.

There are other sides of the coins also.
Sometimew newbie or jr. members produce better and higher quality posts than “member+”.
From project point, it is better that 100 low rank account plague all the forum than 10 hero/legendary that post in meta and mega threads.

That is making a limit number of participants is not always a solution.

Such things have been repeatedly done by some unscrupulous forum members, wanting to benefit from honest bounty members. And here we can see whether someone's bounty manager does indeed follow the bounty rules that he has managed or not. because things like this will not pass if the bounty manager carefully reviews each bounty participant

This is common strategy for fraudsters doing in joining a campaign. They would likely to join telegram campaign and social media campaign such that they will copy other's social media profiles and put their eth address with their own. I hope bounty managers can stop and banned these people for being fraud and stealing others work on social media profiles. They only want to be rewarded for the work of others.

I have faced lot problems from bounty hunters, many of them have been using my details to register on bounty which if i want to join the campaign my details will appear multiple places. this is what made me to stop doing media campaign.
Sincerely speaking this is very bad enough for hunters to stop doing.

If i happened to be bounty manager, the only solution to stop those fraudster is to ask all participants to link their media details to the Bitcointalk forum profile, by this none will complain about using their details to submit for a work. In addition, all participants should filled their wallet on the btt profile as well too.

It is not that easy to avoid or to minimize the number of cheaters. Cheaters gonna be cheaters and they will have many ways to cheat. It is proven for years already where there are many people get caught cheating in bounties with multi accounts.

Cheaters will always ready with any conditions from the bounties. In case of linking the social media accounts with the bitcointalk forum profile, cheaters will create more social media accounts and bitcointalk accounts (even buy it for cheap). This way, they are still able to get more tokens than normal user with 1 account only.

If you are to be bounty manager, how will you deal with such situation while it is hard to detect that those multi accounts are owned by 1 single user?

We wont get rid of those cheaters because there would be that someone who would really be taking advantage into something which they can see that they could make more money.

They do know the risk and pretty much aware excluding into those total noobs that do really believe that they can execute it easily without being traced.

As long this market does involved lots of projects that do launched neither a legit one or not then these fellas would continue to exist no matter what.

Cheating those cheaters? How contradictory it is. ;D