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October 20, 2020, 04:12:34 PM
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Cheaters everywhere are, especially in bounty that gives free paid, they are always looking for opportunities to enter.

Actually for a manager it is easy to find a cheater, but the manager’s job becomes more inhibited by their existence. But since this is already the job of a manager, I think finding a cheater in a project is commonplace.

However, cheaters will definitely harm other participants because they just want to get paid without wanting to work.

We should always be vigilant as participants and always check spreadsheets, to prevent our btt accounts from being duplicated by cheaters.

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October 20, 2020, 08:02:31 PM
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Everyone should have their own tasks. What described topic starter, just the same is included in the list of responsibilities of bounty managers. Especially if there is a POA post, I don't see a problem at all.

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October 20, 2020, 10:18:23 PM
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They greedy about money for sure the number one reasons why they do that we know there is a lot of multiple accounts joining in bounty campaigns which is not good because instead of those spot who gets by the others who have only 1 account they already filled because of them. Joining multiple accounts in one campaign is really bad and hope they caught so it will not happen again.
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October 20, 2020, 10:58:13 PM
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This is really annoying and makes managing the spreadsheet more difficult when setting stakes for participants. To prevent these cheaters, you should not allow Newbie accounts to work, only Copper Member, and every participant who joins any campaign should publish PoA in the topic and put his wallet address in his profile, and it is better to have a spreadsheet to record all the work of the participants for all the campaigns every week, and each participant should put these links to the spreadsheet in order to be able to get the stakes.

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October 21, 2020, 01:10:24 AM
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Everyone should have their own tasks. What described topic starter, just the same is included in the list of responsibilities of bounty managers. Especially if there is a POA post, I don't see a problem at all.
This is not a matter of PoA or Tasks to be cleared, but because one person has multiple accounts that can take other people's quota, and this is very unjustified because each person only has one seat in the campaign instead of multiple seats.
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 Joining multiple accounts in one campaign is really bad and hope they caught so it will not happen again.
Most of those who are caught cheating don't give up as long as they can access their accounts.
In most cases I would rather agree if the cheating account is banned permanently from being able to access the account forever.
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October 21, 2020, 02:05:47 AM
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Cheaters have always been very detrimental to real account users, and I have experienced it
myself where cheaters get the benefit while real account users don't get anything.
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October 21, 2020, 05:15:10 AM
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It is really unavoidable to have multiple accounts in a bounty especially if that bounty is legit and has a potential price because it is difficult to identify multiple account users or cheating in a bounty because the bounty manager needs to do a lot of research. to verify that it uses multiple accounts in an altcoins bounty or in the bitcoin bounty.

It is very difficult to prevent scams with social media bounty. I have seen instances where scammers were using 20-30 different accounts for the same campaign. You can't do much. If they are caught, then they will get banned from the campaign. But other than that, what we can do? Even if we manage to get their accounts pasted with red trust, they will just purchase another Bitcointalk account from the dark market.
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October 21, 2020, 06:02:57 AM
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Cheaters are present in every sphere of human activity and in such a poorly regulated sphere as crypto there will always be lots of cheaters.

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October 21, 2020, 07:27:30 AM
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some people also said that because when I saw the telegram bounty group many complaints were made by participants because someone used their account.
I think this case will continue to happen if there is no way out.
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October 21, 2020, 07:44:53 AM
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To minimize cheating like that, I think we have to name our social media accounts according to the name of our bitcointalk account, even if one day we lose our bitcointalk account, we can still change the name of our social media account according to our new bitcointalk account.
In this way, I think it will be very easy for bounty managers to verify which accounts of their bounty participants are genuine and which ones are cheating. Don't you think bounty managers should ask their bounty participants to do this now ?



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October 21, 2020, 08:23:26 AM
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some people also said that because when I saw the telegram bounty group many complaints were made by participants because someone used their account.
I think this case will continue to happen if there is no way out.
yesterday I saw a bounty campaign like that, the google form was hit by a bot attack and did the input process quickly and used a random identity, so in my opinion some way out is to limit registration for those who want to participate in the bounty campaign.

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October 21, 2020, 08:03:58 PM
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Everyone should have their own tasks. What described topic starter, just the same is included in the list of responsibilities of bounty managers. Especially if there is a POA post, I don't see a problem at all.
This is not a matter of PoA or Tasks to be cleared, but because one person has multiple accounts that can take other people's quota, and this is very unjustified because each person only has one seat in the campaign instead of multiple seats.
In this case, only KYC remains, although for an experienced bounty hunter who has several accounts, this will not be an obstacle. You have suggestions how to deal with this?

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October 21, 2020, 08:48:28 PM
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Many bounty campaigns now are not allowing a newbie to join, even in social media, but if newbie allowed Bounty manager will give other rules for him like account must 3 months old, so don't worry about that, bounty managers is easy to remove it.

In this case, only KYC remains, although for an experienced bounty hunter who has several accounts, this will not be an obstacle. You have suggestions how to deal with this?
Maybe for this case, KYC is only the solution, but many participants not agree about KYC, so will skip the campaign

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October 21, 2020, 08:59:33 PM
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Many bounty campaigns now are not allowing a newbie to join, even in social media, but if newbie allowed Bounty manager will give other rules for him like account must 3 months old, so don't worry about that, bounty managers is easy to remove it.

In this case, only KYC remains, although for an experienced bounty hunter who has several accounts, this will not be an obstacle. You have suggestions how to deal with this?
Maybe for this case, KYC is only the solution, but many participants not agree about KYC, so will skip the campaign
Bounty cheaters are smart and will probably avoid the campaign if it requires KYC. KYC might help but will not really solve the problem. The only solution I guess is for the bounty manager to be more thorough in the spreadsheet.

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Bounty cheaters are everywhere now and you are right. What they do now is use peoples details for theirs. These cheaters are not newbies only but mostly high ranked members as I've seen so far.

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October 21, 2020, 10:08:11 PM
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some people also said that because when I saw the telegram bounty group many complaints were made by participants because someone used their account.
I think this case will continue to happen if there is no way out.
yesterday I saw a bounty campaign like that, the google form was hit by a bot attack and did the input process quickly and used a random identity, so in my opinion some way out is to limit registration for those who want to participate in the bounty campaign.
^ This is not a new way of cheating bounty, even before this strategy of the cheating campaign has already existed. If you are a manager or co-assistant of the manager, you should know and aware of this. That is why most of the bounty managers as of now have a post-authentication for proof of joining the campaign even that is a telegram. Before, that is easy for them to fill up the form using other member's identity, but now it is difficult for them to abuse that kind of strategy.
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October 21, 2020, 10:18:37 PM
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some people also said that because when I saw the telegram bounty group many complaints were made by participants because someone used their account.
I think this case will continue to happen if there is no way out.
yesterday I saw a bounty campaign like that, the google form was hit by a bot attack and did the input process quickly and used a random identity, so in my opinion some way out is to limit registration for those who want to participate in the bounty campaign.
^ This is not a new way of cheating bounty, even before this strategy of the cheating campaign has already existed. If you are a manager or co-assistant of the manager, you should know and aware of this. That is why most of the bounty managers as of now have a post-authentication for proof of joining the campaign even that is a telegram. Before, that is easy for them to fill up the form using other member's identity, but now it is difficult for them to abuse that kind of strategy.
Its look like an abuse to the part of campaign and it always been seen in social media campaign or telegram campaign. Moreover, the current bounties cannot anymore cheated when it comes to submission of participants due to POA or proof of authentication. I am also a victim of bounty cheating wherein my name in social media campaign has double submission before yet the eth address were different. If we noticed like that, we should seek some help in managers so that they can immediately solve the cheating problem in regards to participant.
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October 21, 2020, 10:29:10 PM
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Bounty cheaters are smart and will probably avoid the campaign if it requires KYC. KYC might help but will not really solve the problem. The only solution I guess is for the bounty manager to be more thorough in the spreadsheet.
KYC is really not a solution. not only for bounty cheaters, most of the honest bounty participants will also avoid the bounties that require KYC. we don't know that the project will end with legit or scam ones. it's really risky. the only solutions is the bounty managers must work harder to check it. creating some ideas or another way for participant POA. also, bounty managers must not enter all participant data in the spreadsheets. make a duplicate spreadsheets. one of them just show participants name or payment address only and it's open for public. and another one is for managers only for checking the participants data.

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October 22, 2020, 07:29:42 AM
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hey taufik, i know where they are from. they must be from India and Bangladesh :V

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October 22, 2020, 07:34:14 AM
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I also have experience managing bounties or being a BM assistant in 2019. Indeed, this case has often occurred and indeed many genuine or honest users feel disadvantaged if their BM is not careful. But one way is to check in detail, whether the person concerned is really the original user or not. But to do that, there will definitely be a lot of time wasted.

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