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Title: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: GreatArkansas on October 18, 2020, 03:40:29 AM
"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com (https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_source=reddit.com)
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: sunsilk on October 18, 2020, 04:09:38 AM
Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.
I've thought of the same but until I've seen news that contraband drugs digested and carrying it as if nothing happened by the courier. This activity is happening in real life.

What can you say about this?
I'm having a thought that there must be some other reasons why the guy have done it. But after reading the article and that's 18% tax, he really have to do it as it's a lot of percentage for that item. They've caught another guy doing it and I think this won't happen again as those smugglers are aware of it already. Comparing it to bitcoin, this is a different scenario but we only need to have recovery words, private keys or seeds to be brought by us everywhere and download a wallet for it to restore, no need to intake anything.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: xZork on October 18, 2020, 04:17:06 AM

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.
I've seen a lot of such news, many drug or gold smugglers often have ways to try to bypass the police.


What can you say about this?
I think he does it for profit
We do not need to smuggle with bitcoins because bitcoin can be sent to any country in the world, and most importantly, the price of bitcoin in the world is nearly equal.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Lorence.xD on October 18, 2020, 04:38:25 AM
This is disgusting in our perspective but if you were in the shoes of the same person, there is a whole new thing going on. Most smugglers are poor to the bone and they do not have any means of doing an honest job because they either are not given the oppurtunity to do so or they are oppressed by many that they can't get a decent one. We all judge people by their actions which is a fallacy itself, I was once like that but then I am the same as anyone, I have intentions and those thing do not show that is why it is easy to judge them by action. Regarding smuggling bitcoin, you just need to have a paper wallet that looks like the size of other coin and you are set.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Upgrade00 on October 18, 2020, 05:02:20 AM
While it shows how Bitcoin is different from Gold, I do not think we should promote bitcoin as a means of easily evading taxes. This is one of the ideas used to push the narrative that Bitcoin facilitates illegal activities and is used to launder money, leading to it getting seized in certain circumstances.
Also, while you may not have to smuggle Bitcoin in the manner of this case, airport authorities can also still check bitcoin wallets (software or hardware) or private keys in your possession at that time and these could be seized depending on the legal stance of Bitcoin in that country.

To avoid excessive regulations placed on Bitcoin or in threatening situations where your funds are at risk, you can check out this thread on plausible deniability - [Wiki] An Informal Introduction to Plausible Deniability (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276381.msg55210990#msg55210990).


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: UserU on October 18, 2020, 05:54:48 AM
Lol, I just saw this news yesterday.

I wonder how the heck did he smuggle those neavy gold bars in his ass without looking like he just took the biggest shit in his life?
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/201016-india-rectum-gold.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: davis196 on October 18, 2020, 06:01:27 AM
Aren't there any metal detectors on airports?How did he bypass the metal detectors(or maybe he didn't)? ;D
Can't metal detectors detect gold?Is this guy really dumb,or yes he is so dumb?So many questions... ;D
Maybe he isn't tech savvy and he can't use a computer,so that's why he isn't using Bitcoin instead of gold.
Anyway,I wouldn't stick anything valuable in my ass,even if the tax rate is 50%,not 18%.



Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 18, 2020, 06:01:57 AM
Of course, bitcoin being a digital asset, it can be easily transported anywhere, you can just have your crypto wallet in your phone or hardware wallet, it will make a case for bitcoin, but to evade tax? nah, bitcoiners are too way smarter than that and we shouldn't consider bitcoin as a means for illicit or illegal activities, it wasn't design to be like that in the first place by Satoshi.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: amishmanish on October 18, 2020, 06:17:46 AM
Paying 18% in taxes can seem unfair to many Indians who have apparently slogged it out in the gulf countries to save enough and return to their home states. The cases generally involve expats returning from gulf after working in menial jobs there.

Unfortunately, things are not as simple as that. With all the scanning and imagery available at airports these days, it is surprising that these people still dare to risk losing all of their money (against paying 18% tax) as well as risking their bodies to such extents.  For those who know Indian society, Kerala is the state which had its name maligned after several Muslim youths joined ISIS. There is a dominant Muslim population with links in the Gulf. The Gulf states have sponsored covert actions in India because of its history with Pakistan. So the investigation agencies are fully involved in several such cases as this is suspected to be terror financing.

This is the kind of stuff that also makes it difficult for the general public to accept bitcoin because it can be quickly linked to terror financing.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Twinkledoe on October 18, 2020, 06:26:23 AM
Paying 18% in taxes can seem unfair to many Indians who have apparently slogged it out in the gulf countries to save enough and return to their home states. The cases generally involve expats returning from gulf after working in menial jobs there.

Unfortunately, things are not as simple as that. With all the scanning and imagery available at airports these days, it is surprising that these people still dare to risk losing all of their money (against paying 18% tax) as well as risking their bodies to such extents.  For those who know Indian society, Kerala is the state which had its name maligned after several Muslim youths joined ISIS. There is a dominant Muslim population with links in the Gulf. The Gulf states have sponsored covert actions in India because of its history with Pakistan. So the investigation agencies are fully involved in several such cases as this is suspected to be terror financing.

This is the kind of stuff that also makes it difficult for the general public to accept bitcoin because it can be quickly linked to terror financing.

He should have played it cool. For sure, he attracted attention the way he was walking. If he walked like normal, he might have passed all the checkpoints. It also shows that their checkpoints are not that strict. But yeah, when you talk about btc vs gold, of course the transaction is very different. Or maybe, he should have bought btc and sent it to his wallet, and exchanged it to his local fiat, then buy gold.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: UserU on October 18, 2020, 06:30:14 AM
Anyway,I wouldn't stick anything valuable in my ass,even if the tax rate is 50%,not 18%.


I think we shouldn't be sticking anything up our asses ;)


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Wulan_maniez on October 18, 2020, 06:55:22 AM
It’s ridiculous the impression they put the gold in the rectum. But for Indian Customs and its baggage regulations, it prohibits passengers’ destination India from carrying more gold jewelry than specified. Therefore, it is not surprising that there are passengers of Indian majors doing this kind of action because it avoids tax.
According to information for men, carryable gold should not be over 3.57 grams, while for women it should not be over 7.15 grams.
For the latest information, perhaps indians who are more understanding.
And For Bitcoin, it need not be like that  ;D


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: meanwords on October 18, 2020, 09:13:06 AM
Well yes, technically we don't do that in Bitcoin since we can't do that in Bitcoin in digital form. I think the closest thing that could happen like that is when scammers or money launderers are using physical papers which have bitcoin wallet written in it then selling that paper to a client instead of using exchange.

Pretty bold of him to do that though.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 18, 2020, 09:51:26 AM
What can you say about this?
If only this passenger know how Bitcoin works then he must've not get caught by the authorities.

If only he just transfer it into Bitcoin then he might've been free right now. What I see funny though is he put it in his rectum :D. Well if you want to smuggle goods, you need to put it in the place of your body that isn't be seen that easily but the passenger still failed :D. He is walking oddly so it is already a sign that there is something wrong with the passenger.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: momchilandonov on October 18, 2020, 10:08:28 AM
Bitcoin is traceble too. Not the best solutions to avoid taxes


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 18, 2020, 10:21:44 AM
I'm sorry about this guy. Some people are willing to do a lot for the sake of money. Someone sells their kidneys, and someone donates their ass and transports kilograms of gold. He will have something to remember in old age.  ;D ;D

If we return to bitcoins, then this story is one of those that prove that violations of tax payments or various kinds of smuggling, often do not concern cryptocurrencies at all. You and I understand that sending an amount equal to the value of gold in bitcoin would not require such sacrifices. But not all scammers are knowledgeable about cryptocurrencies. And it pleases. Therefore, it is very unfair to blame Bitcoin for all shadow transactions, as legislators like to do.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: stompix on October 18, 2020, 11:19:25 AM
He should have played it cool. For sure, he attracted attention the way he was walking. If he walked like normal, he might have passed all the checkpoints.

2 pounds of gold, judging by the picture with most of them being a bit flat would mean he has something like 2x2x13 cm(yeah metric system)  in his ass, do you think you could walk normally with something like that? The volume might not be a problem but gold is insanely dense, I'm almost sure he will have to see a doctor pretty soon, there is no way in hell he could have kept that in there to much without damage to his sphincter.

It's one thing to carry something less dense that is distributed on a larger surface and a totally different thing to carry around gold. According to the news I've read customs police say carrying around one pound or even 1, 1/2 of cocaine in small bags is doable even to "newbies".

Aren't there any metal detectors on airports?How did he bypass the metal detectors(or maybe he didn't)? ;D
Can't metal detectors detect gold?Is this guy really dumb,or yes he is so dumb?So many questions... ;D

Metal detectors detect gold even easier than other metals, they can even detect your fillings, that's they are set to ignore small amounts by the surface, fillings, small badges, pins or zippers, in his case they were flat and pretty long, the scanner (if activated) would have gone nuts the moment he would have passed through it.


why man do that? I feel sick at the thought. he doesn't know bitcoin yet, if he already knows bitcoin there is no way he could do that, bitcoin can be stored in a crypto wallet, if you sell it to FIAT currency in a matter of minutes it is over and it will be in your bank account. this is the great thing that bitcoin has

Why? Money!!! Money is the reason for which we do almost everything.
As for your solution, after he gets his money in his bank...he will get taxed,which this guy tried to avoid.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Assface16678 on October 18, 2020, 11:41:38 AM
This is disgusting in our perspective but if you were in the shoes of the same person, there is a whole new thing going on. Most smugglers are poor to the bone and they do not have any means of doing an honest job because they either are not given the oppurtunity to do so or they are oppressed by many that they can't get a decent one. We all judge people by their actions which is a fallacy itself, I was once like that but then I am the same as anyone, I have intentions and those thing do not show that is why it is easy to judge them by action. Regarding smuggling bitcoin, you just need to have a paper wallet that looks like the size of other coin and you are set.
Doing so will embarass themselves and that is quite true. People do things because of a reason and in this case that is probably avoidance of taxation. It just cahes to see the frustration of people just because of 'money', that is how hard earning money is, nowadays. Bitcoin is not yet regularized to most of the countries and with that being said, it is free of tax at this moment.
Bitcoin is traceble too. Not the best solutions to avoid taxes
It can be traced by I doubt that is enough to be taxed since it is decentralized.
 

Anyway,I wouldn't stick anything valuable in my ass,even if the tax rate is 50%,not 18%.


I hope you can still say that if ever you will be in that man's shoe. That is more likely due to frustrations. And that is sad to hear such thing happens on things aside from drugs.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Viscore on October 18, 2020, 11:43:56 AM
And the craziest thing is that how he can manage to put it in his ass with that big chunks of gold? How desperate is that just to make money and even risk his life? He's no way he can make it in this modern situation and new technology.

I'm not sure if this is the first time he did this, but probably he'll do this before 50 years ago when there is no metal detector, no scanner, just passing through the lines.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: bitbollo on October 18, 2020, 11:47:10 AM
Bitcoin is traceble too. Not the best solutions to avoid taxes

You can always sell your coins in a p2p transaction or just buying a product on line ;)
In topic again, I think it was a really pain transport an huge load like this one. But probably it really worths this effort, probably this is an amount of money that they can earn in a lot of time.
Bitcoin has been described more times as a medium that can bypass physical limit of gold. Like in this case, storing bitcoin confirm this big advantage ;D


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: buwaytress on October 18, 2020, 05:42:37 PM
Yeah best thing about Bitcoin is you don't have to transport it. And now, even with some countries having silly rules where they're allowed to check you mobile or laptop at airport, it's easy enough to hide a seed phrase or private key without it ever looking like what it really is.

The brainwallet experiment by Bitmex some days ago does prove that you should still be careful memorising phrases for Bitcoin wallets though =)


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: hatshepsut93 on October 18, 2020, 06:02:07 PM
Sure, Bitcoin is thousands times easier to "smuggle", but in the future there might be regulations where you have to declare your Bitcoin holdings, and if you try to spend your coins legally, like sending them to a new exchange in new country, or even use services that report to authorities, you will be spotted. It's not about controlling Bitcoin itself, it's about controlling the companies that deal with Bitcoin, cause they can't afford to hide it like regular people can.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: lebregone on October 18, 2020, 06:29:07 PM
He is not smart at all because there is a big possibility that he can be discovered as gold can easily be detected even if you are going to put it in your rectum. And now I will just hope that he will not be facing some big problems to what he has done because I am not really familiar on what cases he will be facing after this incident.

We really can't do it to bitcoin but avoiding the taxes is pretty difficult especially if the local exchange in our country is already imposing a tax in every transaction that we are going to create but we can still avoid taxes if we really want to especially if there are some options to do so but not the same to this one that he put gold nuggets in rectum just to avoid the taxes.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: bittraffic on October 18, 2020, 06:32:01 PM


Lol, I just saw this news yesterday.

I wonder how the heck did he smuggle those neavy gold bars in his ass without looking like he just took the biggest shit in his life?
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/201016-india-rectum-gold.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1

You'd be really noticeable when you walk around with 2 pounds of gold shove into your ass. That's very heavy and it doesn't even look like a nugget, its 3 foot long bars that if pieced together it goes out of his mouth. How did they come up with this plan.

Sure, Bitcoin is thousands times easier to "smuggle", but in the future there might be regulations where you have to declare your Bitcoin holdings, and if you try to spend your coins legally, like sending them to a new exchange in new country, or even use services that report to authorities, you will be spotted. It's not about controlling Bitcoin itself, it's about controlling the companies that deal with Bitcoin, cause they can't afford to hide it like regular people can.

Regulations are laws but still worth making legal transactions with BTC on other countries than bringing gold illegally and embarass yourself by shitting it out.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Ryker1 on October 18, 2020, 07:18:14 PM
You'd be really noticeable when you walk around with 2 pounds of gold shove into your ass. That's very heavy and it doesn't even look like a nugget, its 3 foot long bars that if pieced together it goes out of his mouth. How did they come up with this plan.
Lol, right.
Well, I wonder how would it feel having gold struck on your rectum. I wouldn't be surprised if the officers were able to notice it. The rectum is a very sensitive part of the body. [Pain is there for sure] You will not be able to walk with comfort feeling the pain on your lower part. [My goodness] If I were the person, --I would rather pay my taxes than being hospitalized because of a broken liver caused by the pain in the rectum.
He is not too smart to the shenanigans move!


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Lizzie_Girl on October 18, 2020, 08:37:05 PM
To avoid tax? That sounds strange. Normally it would be a maul working for someone else but I guess when it's gold you just cannot afford to lose it. I mean surely this person could have used one of the many other methods to accomplish what they were trying to do? Using something physical seems like going back in time.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Bitcoin_bullish on October 18, 2020, 08:42:49 PM
What can you say about this?

This was the first thing I've thought of:

https://i.imgur.com/C7BHBUQ.jpg

Really though, drug smugglers do that all the time. But gold, guy was so desperate? Just pay your taxes dude.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Lanatsa on October 18, 2020, 08:43:46 PM
You'd be really noticeable when you walk around with 2 pounds of gold shove into your ass. That's very heavy and it doesn't even look like a nugget, its 3 foot long bars that if pieced together it goes out of his mouth. How did they come up with this plan.
Lol, right.
Well, I wonder how would it feel having gold struck on your rectum. I wouldn't be surprised if the officers were able to notice it. The rectum is a very sensitive part of the body. [Pain is there for sure] You will not be able to walk with comfort feeling the pain on your lower part. [My goodness] If I were the person, --I would rather pay my taxes than being hospitalized because of a broken liver caused by the pain in the rectum.
He is not too smart to the shenanigans move!
This is what you called desperation or doesn't have any choice on where to hide those gold for the sake of avoiding tax.By looking into those image above on how big it is then I can really
imagine that it is really painful.

Did some back read and it do mention about 18% tax? that's really too much but I would indeed pay up on tax rather than sacrificing my rectum for that.

Comparing bitcoin and gold? Of course bitcoin is digital and theres no need for it to be smuggled.Why came up into this kind of comparison.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: maxreish on October 19, 2020, 07:50:38 AM
It must be alarming. Trying to smuggle gold and insert that on the rectum is kinda bothersome. That's probably how syndicates trying to get through the gold. However, yeah at significant point, we can't do that in bitcoin. And there's a lot of differences between gold and btc.

We can carry our bitcoin all the time using our phone  not worrying that they might arrest you.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: UserU on October 19, 2020, 09:58:16 AM

You'd be really noticeable when you walk around with 2 pounds of gold shove into your ass. That's very heavy and it doesn't even look like a nugget, its 3 foot long bars that if pieced together it goes out of his mouth. How did they come up with this plan.


Something similar was attempted 3 years back, but it was 2 pounds. Guess the mule had to move pretty slowly to avoid getting his/ her rectum torn ;D

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The 45-year-old, headed for India, was arrested at Colombo airport on Sunday after customs officials noticed “suspicious movements,” customs spokesman Sunil Jayarathne told Reuters.

https://nypost.com/2017/09/25/guy-with-2-pounds-of-gold-in-his-butt-was-really-easy-to-spot/


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Warkop on October 19, 2020, 10:32:16 AM
I never thought about what he was doing, because when someone gets on a plane and hides the gold it looks really embarrassing to me. It's very different from Bitcoin, when you want to travel you don't need to hide and store it, because Bitcoin is very easy to store and carry everywhere without fear and worry about any conditions, because Bitcoin does not display real objects like gold, Bitcoin is only digital and formless numbers but the price is very high and real.  ;D


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Vatimins on October 19, 2020, 10:50:59 AM
     Welp, this sure ain't something you get to see nor read everyday, lol. The only thing that I hear about on the news which include putting anything on someone's crack are those about people that put drugs, stolen items or weapons. But about that tax though. It's just too big and unfair. Although I can sympathize a bit for him, what's wrong is just wrong ni matter how you put it.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Lucius on October 19, 2020, 10:54:38 AM
Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

This doesn't just happen in movies, and gold is not the strangest thing that people try to smuggle in this way, although in most cases it is still a drug. If you have access to the National Geographic TV program, there you can see documentaries (Airport Security) about the world's largest airports and what the customs service faces in passenger control.


Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

True, a private key or seed can be written down on paper and saved in a regular wallet, so any amount can be transferred without anyone finding out. However, if we use hardware wallets, we must be prepared for them to be confiscated by customs, or for us to be asked to unlock them - much as is sometimes the case with computers or smartphones. Of course, such things are still less likely because airport customs officers are not yet educated about cryptocurrencies, but if this becomes usual in the future, I believe that controls will be much stricter.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: so98nn on October 19, 2020, 10:59:12 AM
Dam man, so funny replies here. This is seriously insane news I have read yet. Look at the picture of those gold strips. How the hell his a** adopted that shape man? First thing is it’s not something which can bend easily without larger force, so how did they actually put into rectum. Shit man, this might be first man to hold record for :- “Man who shits gold”. Lolz.

On the scientific side, this is gonna create crazy problems for his digestive system for sure. Don’t know how many ruptures he might have got due to this act.

Talking about the bitcoin relationship, well you just need few buttons to be clicked and insane amount of transaction can be done in any moment.

He could have just traded it for bitcoin, travel to where ever he was going and buy the gold again. Lolz.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Oasisman on October 19, 2020, 11:00:11 AM
Well yes, technically we don't do that in Bitcoin since we can't do that in Bitcoin in digital form. I think the closest thing that could happen like that is when scammers or money launderers are using physical papers which have bitcoin wallet written in it then selling that paper to a client instead of using exchange.

Or It could also be a hardware wallet which is a lot more easier to stuck it up in the ass than those Golds.
If you're aware about the hardware wallet that has been sent to Jetcash before, you can actually read it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260116.0  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260116.0). The US customs checked the hardware wallet for a possible money laundering through the use of cryptocurrency, though they haven't found anything suspicious because that's actually a reward from the contest and It's literally empty.
So with that experience, I'm not gonna be surprised If scenarios like this will happen in the future.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: verita1 on October 19, 2020, 11:25:31 AM
This is disgusting contraband. I believe that it is unlikely that a passenger will try to evade carrying merchandise introduced into the body at an airport. The authorities will always be able to detect it. In this case, the gold could not come out successfully, it is better to pay the 18% tax than to lose the gold. If we speak in monetary terms, it is better to handle Bitcoin on the other hand, gold in addition to representing value is useful for industry and business. The best thing for gold smugglers is that they pay their taxes.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: hulla on October 19, 2020, 11:41:57 AM
Paying 18% in taxes can seem unfair to many Indians who have apparently slogged it out in the gulf countries to save enough and return to their home states. The cases generally involve expats returning from gulf after working in menial jobs there.

Unfortunately, things are not as simple as that. With all the scanning and imagery available at airports these days, it is surprising that these people still dare to risk losing all of their money (against paying 18% tax) as well as risking their bodies to such extents.  For those who know Indian society, Kerala is the state which had its name maligned after several Muslim youths joined ISIS. There is a dominant Muslim population with links in the Gulf. The Gulf states have sponsored covert actions in India because of its history with Pakistan. So the investigation agencies are fully involved in several such cases as this is suspected to be terror financing.

This is the kind of stuff that also makes it difficult for the general public to accept bitcoin because it can be quickly linked to terror financing.

He should have played it cool. For sure, he attracted attention the way he was walking. If he walked like normal, he might have passed all the checkpoints.
His mistake started from not converting the gold into cryptocurrency but saying he attracted attention by the way he walks is overstatement because there's no way an individual will have 2pounds which is approximately 907.185 Grams of nugget gold in his rectum and wont walk oddly not to talk about time the gold have spent in his rectum. Mind you, if the gold are not remove from his rectum before max hours he will die.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: molsewid on October 19, 2020, 04:32:46 PM
This is very unusual news, and the subject in this post really matches the content. Avoiding tax gone wrong; it just created another bigger problem.
Even if the smallest gold is inserted in someone's rectum, they can't walk normally unless their rectum is similar to the pornstar for sure they can handle these gold. Just kidding.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: plvbob0070 on October 19, 2020, 05:00:13 PM
Who tf would do that thinking no one will notice that when walking with that heavy and big gold on your ass would already look so weird? However, is it just to avoid tax, since I don't think that's enough reason to do such ridiculous things?

But yeah, with bitcoin, you don't have to carry something physically and you don't have to do weird things like what that man did. Still, this news is ridiculous and disgusting because what's the point of trying so hard to smuggle it to avoid taxes when it's obvious that he'll end up getting caught.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Dsdaq on October 19, 2020, 05:04:11 PM
This are some of the advantages Bitcoin have over some commodities like gold, you don't need to carry it or hide it because it's not a physical product. Also this a disadvantage because criminals can easily send money from one point to another.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Genemind on October 19, 2020, 06:11:13 PM
That's actually one of the best characteristics of Bitcoin that we could also consider as its advantage. We can carry and use it everywhere digitally but what that guy did is really disgusting. He can't escape from taxation through his actions. However, we can't blame him because we don't know the whole story. He should have known how to convert and switch his gold to crypto.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Artemis3 on October 19, 2020, 06:12:50 PM
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?

No, this actually happens very often. From my country when things are normal (no pandemic) it was a common occurrence, a LOT of so called "mules" eat pure cocaine enclosed in latex glove fingers cut and sew. Sometimes these "fingers" break inside during the flight and kill the mule.

This smuggling method is also often used in prisons... I'm not sure if the TSA could catch it with their full body scanners, but since that's an American thing, people traveling from other countries, especially from the typical source - target destinations ie. South America to North America or Europe, often (but not always) with connection flights in a third country. Of course this is not the only way the cartels smuggle things in, but its a method they still use.

The guy was probably discovered because he would exhibit the same odd behavior drug mules often do.

Was someone still saying gold was better than bitcoin? In the physical realm, you always have these problems. Besides Bitcoin never moves, its always in the same place, it is you and your keys that move. The current legislation to restrict the flow of capital make no sense when there is no flowing going on at all. This is truly a world currency.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Silberman on October 19, 2020, 06:22:31 PM
"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com (https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_source=reddit.com)
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?
We were talking about something similar some time ago on the Spanish section of the forum about the issues of moving your gold when travelling to different countries and how bitcoin was better at this, but what I do not understand is why this person did not disguised the gold? It could have been the easiest thing in the world to make that gold a piece of jewelry and if that still brought too much attention then he could have just painted it black or some other colour and claim it was made from a cheap material if asked about it, while I for the most part advice people to follow the laws in each country a 18% tax is simply ridiculous, however most likely the gold was not his as other person was caught doing the same thing on the same plane and the odds of that happening by chance are very low.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: ChrisPop on October 19, 2020, 06:30:46 PM
I wonder what his face was when he got caught.  :D :D

This is another example that people can do illegal activities with any kind of asset or money. So let's stop being afraid that the governments will ban Bitcoin because people use it for illegal activities. If they wanted to ban it for this reason, I'm sure they would have done it a long time ago.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Xembin on October 19, 2020, 06:39:44 PM
Many people are using gold to compare bitcoin which is just few years older in the world. Gold is the oldest than bitcoin in the world. Many people still prefer gold than bitcoin because it's centralized which many people are use to gold in the market. Bitcoin is a decentralized is not control by the government and you don't pay any taxes to government before joining the forum. Your bitcoin is your bitcoin when your wallet is well secure from scammer.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: CarnagexD on October 19, 2020, 11:25:52 PM
That's actually one of the best characteristics of Bitcoin that we could also consider as its advantage. We can carry and use it everywhere digitally but what that guy did is really disgusting. He can't escape from taxation through his actions. However, we can't blame him because we don't know the whole story. He should have known how to convert and switch his gold to crypto.
I wouldn't want to stuff my ass with precious gold just to pass customs. This is one of the biggest benefits of Bitcoin I must say. You don't need to worry about leaving your riches elsewhere since you can carry it all around with you long as you have your address. Although it is also a flaw as bitcoin is not intended to be used as a money alternative, at least for this moment.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: TheGreatPython on October 20, 2020, 05:58:27 PM
We all know that Bitcoin is accessible from anywhere around the world so shoving it up your ass is a no, no :o. It’s only physical/tangible assets that people are going to do such with, and just like you (op) this is the first time I’m seeing this kind of news, but I have been seeing news of people that will have cocaine stuffed in their body and once they get to their destination it would be removed and sold (crazy stories) and now it’s gold that people are doing next? Weird :o.

If it was Bitcoin, wherever you are you can easily have access to it as long as you have the password, the keys, and your email, whatever that is required for you to access that wallet.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Yatsan on October 20, 2020, 07:37:37 PM
It is kinda weird hearing or reading such news for seriously such kind of action are mostly seen on televised shows to showcase how smuggled goods and services, money and drugs are being secretly packed inside the body of the individual to be able to surpass the strict checking for the immigration being done on airports. Sounds weird but it is actually being done on real life for those individuals that are being caught carrying illegal objects across nations are the recruited ones to do the dirty job under a big boss. Sound like really a live movie action.

Being intangible, meaning having no physical form that would be get rid of being bulky and hassle to get access is a good feature or characteristic that Bitcoin do possess because you can carry out any amount on any device you do have anytime and anywhere seamlessly fast and no hassle. But such feature is the one being taken advantage by criminals on making use of Bitcoin because of such feature and using it into their illegal activities.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: adzino on October 20, 2020, 07:55:38 PM
"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com (https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_source=reddit.com)
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?
How come this is the first time you are hearing about this? People used to smuggle drugs the exact same way. I have also heard human traffickers doing the same with the those poor people they snatch. There were a lot of documentaries that aired where where people get caught for doing those. Sadly, most of them do this as a last resort to survive.
Just a bit confused, what are you trying to related over here with bitcoin? Are you trying to say we don't need to shove bitcoin up our ass to evade taxes? Bad example.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Oceat on October 20, 2020, 08:04:01 PM
I wonder what his face was when he got caught.  :D :D

This is another example that people can do illegal activities with any kind of asset or money. So let's stop being afraid that the governments will ban Bitcoin because people use it for illegal activities. If they wanted to ban it for this reason, I'm sure they would have done it a long time ago.
I can't imagine someone's face while walking with two pounds inside their body, can you imagine the weight?

Anyway, the government can't ban Bitcoin since no one is controlling it but they can ban people from using or trading it to fiat but that's just it, nothing to worry. People could still use it secretly since Bitcoin is decentralized and no one is controlling it especially with wallet addresses. On the other hand, I think most of the government are trying to take the chance to adapt the new technology, therefore, they slowly adapting the blockchain technology.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: tanjiran on October 20, 2020, 11:33:04 PM
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Anyway, the government can't ban Bitcoin since no one is controlling it but they can ban people from using or trading it to fiat but that's just it, nothing to worry. People could still use it secretly since Bitcoin is decentralized and no one is controlling it especially with wallet addresses. On the other hand, I think most of the government are trying to take the chance to adapt the new technology, therefore, they slowly adapting the blockchain technology.
some governments have adapted crypto in a way that they can best manage. Well, even though there are many pros and cons, it cannot be denied that bitcoin provides a very good evolution in the modern financial system. There are many obstacles that can be overcome by crypto regarding the conventional financial system, there are only a few points that make it an opportunity to be used as an illegal act. That's why the government is trying to limit crypto adoption in order to control the worst possibility of illegal activity. So the government cannot completely ban it, because on the other hand crypto, especially bitcoin, provides a big advantage.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: ChiBitCTy on October 21, 2020, 03:07:43 AM
Lol this is funny as hell first of all.  Once again we are seeing the comparison of bitcoin and gold by you and by the news you're talking about.  They are very different things that happen to have a few of the same qualities.  I honestly applaud the guy for trying.  Some of the worlds countries taxes are so god damn high and unfair, if you pay your due and then some..fuck them I have no problem with this.  I guess this is one positive over gold though if you are comparing, I'd rather sneak nothing up my butt but keep a number stored in my head lol.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Buttermellow on October 21, 2020, 03:16:55 AM
LOL, bitcoin is just being stored electrinically in device or it could also be done in writing it to paper or a print of details to access the wallet. There is no need to place like gold in the rectum that so gross.

If only that guy knows about bitcoin then he can get his gold sold and buy bitcoin. It will make his life more comfortable and away from getting pain or infections from the material things that inserted to rectum. LOL

This is actually funny but I can't also get worried with that guy after he had done those things. The worst is that he was caught so sad.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Serious475 on October 21, 2020, 07:01:14 AM
I didn't expect that some people are doing this I thought too this is just from the newbies that they are eating or putting the different items on their bodies. I think the reason is they must need to transfer the items safely because most of the transportation today has a different scanner. But if you want to transfer with the use of money I think bitcoin is the most efficient way to have this kind of transaction.

This story gives me goosebumps lol. Our countries should stop these people to make bad.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: lienfaye on October 21, 2020, 07:14:36 AM
I cant imagine how much it hurts having gold placed in your rectum.

Well its all for money, they're doing this kind of thing for money.
They dont want to find a decent job and chose to live the easy way they think that could get them lots of money.

Good thing bitcoin is digital and requires a user to understand how it works to know the ways on how to take advantage it to earn as an investment.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Gotumoot on October 21, 2020, 08:00:58 AM
I cant imagine how much it hurts having gold placed in your rectum.

Well its all for money, they're doing this kind of thing for money.
They dont want to find a decent job and chose to live the easy way they think that could get them lots of money.

Good thing bitcoin is digital and requires a user to understand how it works to know the ways on how to take advantage it to earn as an investment.
Well some of them doesn't really have a choice I remember watching a real life story about an OFW who was forced to be a drug mule.
I don't really remember it well but I think the group has his passport and every document and it would only be given to him when he would go to the plane.
There are some who are force to be a drug mule in order to save their life or get home to their love ones since they work abroad.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: AniviaBtc on October 21, 2020, 08:29:47 AM
"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com (https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_source=reddit.com)
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?

The only similarity between gold and bitcoin is that they are both good as an asset for investments.

But we all know that bitcoin can be stored in a digital wallet which is much safer and easier to carry compared to gold that is tangible and can be carried in a different way. Bitcoin will never be placed in a rectum just like what the man did to gold because we have different crypto wallet that we must use to store bitcoin safely and less hassle.

Any device will do to help you access your bitcoin so this situation will never happen to those bitcoin users because gold is gold and bitcoin is bitcoin.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: traderethereum on October 21, 2020, 08:52:17 AM
Yikes, that is what's in my head.
Bitcoin and gold are totally different. Gold has a form, while bitcoin doesn't have a form, but we can store bitcoin on our mobile phones while traveling to other places.
But we don't have to be that passenger to avoid taxes because so far, bitcoin is not taxed when we store in our wallet, whether it's a mobile phone or other bitcoin wallets.
But if the wallet hardware will get taxes and worry about that, you can shove your wallet in your rectum like that passenger, so you don't have to pay any taxes.
I wonder why he wants to do that? Maybe he is a smuggler who wants to send gold to another place.
But shove that gold in his rectum is not a good idea.
But ... once again, yikes.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: elisabetheva on October 21, 2020, 09:00:32 AM
This are some of the advantages Bitcoin have over some commodities like gold, you don't need to carry it or hide it because it's not a physical product. Also this a disadvantage because criminals can easily send money from one point to another.

what the government is afraid of is that bitcoin can be used as a tool to commit illegal acts. corruption and drug trafficking can use bitcoin for transactions and this will make it difficult to trace them. this is a separate issue that must be considered.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: dansus021 on October 21, 2020, 09:25:06 AM
Lol, I just saw this news yesterday.

I wonder how the heck did he smuggle those neavy gold bars in his ass without looking like he just took the biggest shit in his life?
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/201016-india-rectum-gold.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=1236&h=820&crop=1
Ewww Crazy look at those gold bar and yep i think its disgusting if i were the smuggler i try to sell the gold with cash and exchange it to bitcoin or just wire transfer it via western union  ;D or carry the cash its more simple right hahah


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: matchi2011 on October 21, 2020, 09:35:22 AM
LOL, bitcoin is just being stored electrinically in device or it could also be done in writing it to paper or a print of details to access the wallet. There is no need to place like gold in the rectum that so gross.

If only that guy knows about bitcoin then he can get his gold sold and buy bitcoin. It will make his life more comfortable and away from getting pain or infections from the material things that inserted to rectum. LOL

This is actually funny but I can't also get worried with that guy after he had done those things. The worst is that he was caught so sad.

Anything for the sake of money, we ain't sure if this guy knew about bitcoin since if he does for sure it will be much easier for him to sell the gold and buy bitcoin then travel out.

This news only proves that if you are more internet savvy you'll find better ways if you deal with illegal things, sad true that after being caught aside from the pain in the ass now he will suffer more inside the jail, we know what will happen after he's being convict.. ::) but kidding aside it's really cool to learn bitcoin / crypto knowing that you have an alternative way to keep/ transfer your money much easier.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: KennyR on October 21, 2020, 09:47:57 AM
I've come across several such news in the past. This is just common in Asian countries. Most of the time gold is being smuggled into the country from North East Asian country Dubai. Different ways are being followed to smuggle gold. This doesn't have anything to be related to bitcoin. This is quite risky for health and it's a old style of smuggling.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: elisabetheva on October 21, 2020, 10:19:00 AM
I've come across several such news in the past. This is just common in Asian countries. Most of the time gold is being smuggled into the country from North East Asian country Dubai. Different ways are being followed to smuggle gold. This doesn't have anything to be related to bitcoin. This is quite risky for health and it's a old style of smuggling.

I think it is clear that the relationship with bitcoin is impossible and obviously very different, but the actions taken are brave and it seems sometimes unthinkable why anyone would dare to do the same as smuggling heroin which obviously could be dangerous and might even lead to death. Is it because those who did it had no alternative but to do that, and in the end also died because of poverty.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: acener on October 21, 2020, 04:39:55 PM
We really wouldn't do it here in crypto since we don't have to go anywhere if we want to send our crypto into another country.
I think this is also why smuggler choose to use crypto and why people thinks it is a terrorist money since we could easily send funds and avoid tax everywhere in the world.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: akram143 on October 22, 2020, 01:24:13 AM
It happens everywhere, and it is very normal in India. As far as I know people used to smuggle kilograms of Gold in the tablet forms or something which can fit inside our stomach.And also possible with bitcoin but we can't blame bitcoin since fiat money involved in the transaction so without converting bitcoin into fiat is is not really spendable.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Sadlife on October 22, 2020, 01:43:19 AM
One of the odd examples out there that Bitcoin doesn't need to smuggled anywhere because it's not regulated by entities or government, of course im not saying to do illegal activities but im suggesting a better and easy way. You can do it in the comforts of your home. Without sacrificing your body parts just to transfer money.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Darkelf11 on October 22, 2020, 01:49:08 AM
It happens everywhere, and it is very normal in India. As far as I know people used to smuggle kilograms of Gold in the tablet forms or something which can fit inside our stomach.And also possible with bitcoin but we can't blame bitcoin since fiat money involved in the transaction so without converting bitcoin into fiat is is not really spendable.


In our country, gold is only one of things that is being smuggled, but also there are other things that are of higher value like gold and they will hide it in a part of their body that you would not think that it is possible just to avoid paying feee. Well, gold have its physical form if you will compare it to bitcoin. Bitcoin is a virtual cryptocurrency so it is impossible to smuggle it inside your stomach except if you will store it in a hardware wallet and attach it to your body. But if you to think of it, no need to smuggle bitcoins because we do not pay taxes here.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Sapphire915 on October 22, 2020, 03:59:21 AM
OMG! This is really something that we can only saw in some movies and yes, its usually drugs. Never thought that some people does it for Gold too. Its kinda hard for this person to carry this precious metal but I guess he has no choice but to do it for the sake of money/profits that he will be getting back when he succeeded this kind of tricks. On the other hand, we can  clearly  see the great advantage of Bitcoin nowadays with this scenario. We dont need to insert bitcoin in any parts of our body for transfer, we only need a smart gadgets, an internet connection and a secured digital wallet to send bitcoin across the globe. This is just something so accessible, reliable and more profitable.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: carlisle1 on October 22, 2020, 07:31:52 AM
"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com (https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_source=reddit.com)
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.
Well what can happen in Drugs can be surely applicable in Gold because it is smaller in package compared to drugs.
In Columbia there are tons of cases people are swallowing drugs just to get rid of arrest even though it can cost their life if the drugs packaging broke and directly enter their body system.
So i think in Gold this can be more easy." But Not in the Rectum part,i wonder how they do that"
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Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?
Yeah we only Need ledger Nano to bring Bitcoin all over the world,but of course depend in the availability of Bitcoin in that country.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Xembin on October 22, 2020, 08:03:37 AM
There's no way we can compared gold with bitcoin because gold is more popular than bitcoin in the world. Many investors are use to gold business over 20 years now compare to bitcoin that is just over 11 years.
Bitcoin is decentralized all over the world. And it not control by any government official in the exchange market. Many that use to bitcoin see bitcoin as the easier business if only you can follow all the protocol guiding the platform.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Silberman on October 22, 2020, 02:44:01 PM
Lol this is funny as hell first of all.  Once again we are seeing the comparison of bitcoin and gold by you and by the news you're talking about.  They are very different things that happen to have a few of the same qualities.  I honestly applaud the guy for trying.  Some of the worlds countries taxes are so god damn high and unfair, if you pay your due and then some..fuck them I have no problem with this.  I guess this is one positive over gold though if you are comparing, I'd rather sneak nothing up my butt but keep a number stored in my head lol.
This is the great advantage of bitcoin, one of the weakest aspects of gold has always been to move it from one location to another, this is in part one of the reasons why fiat currencies eventually emerged, after all moving a few coins in your pocket is not a big deal but what if you are a merchant that moves goods from one side of the world to the other? Then it is easier to move just a bunch of paper money than it is to move gold, but bitcoin is even easier to move, as you say if you have your seed words memorized then you can easily move your bitcoins from one wallet to another without having anything on you that tells you are holding any amount bitcoin.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Axelseseclevz on October 22, 2020, 03:11:50 PM
"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com (https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_source=reddit.com)
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?

Smuggler always do such thing for gold, drugs and any other tangible and valuable things to escape from the authority.  Of course he does it to make profit without paying tax. About Bitcoin, it can't be smuggle because you can bring it anywhere that know one knows but only you. Unlike Gold or drugs which is tangible and visible that why it's difficult to hide.



Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Krislaw on October 22, 2020, 08:45:42 PM
He was lucky to have escaped metal detectors and unlucky to have improvise on how he walked.
Well, you can't compare bitcoin to gold because one is physical and the other one is not. Bitcoin doesn't need any physical space and is cross border 


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: dunfida on October 22, 2020, 08:51:41 PM
Lol this is funny as hell first of all.  Once again we are seeing the comparison of bitcoin and gold by you and by the news you're talking about.  They are very different things that happen to have a few of the same qualities.  I honestly applaud the guy for trying.  Some of the worlds countries taxes are so god damn high and unfair, if you pay your due and then some..fuck them I have no problem with this.  I guess this is one positive over gold though if you are comparing, I'd rather sneak nothing up my butt but keep a number stored in my head lol.
This is the great advantage of bitcoin, one of the weakest aspects of gold has always been to move it from one location to another, this is in part one of the reasons why fiat currencies eventually emerged, after all moving a few coins in your pocket is not a big deal but what if you are a merchant that moves goods from one side of the world to the other? Then it is easier to move just a bunch of paper money than it is to move gold, but bitcoin is even easier to move, as you say if you have your seed words memorized then you can easily move your bitcoins from one wallet to another without having anything on you that tells you are holding any amount bitcoin.
Do this comparison still need up some serious thinking between smuggling a digital thing compared on a solid one? or does have physical form? Its no brainer on which one which one will really have an easy access to perform out in terms of smuggling.When it comes to goods then those people will really do anything even on putting up something into their rectum as long they would able to make out some money and just
to avoid some taxes to be charged on it without minding much on health conditions that might be possible in danger on doing such way of smuggling.This had been common though but
authorities are already fully aware on where these things can be possibly hidden out and once caught then you know up the charges.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: goldade on October 22, 2020, 09:33:34 PM
"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com (https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_source=reddit.com)
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?

Well, this is one of the major advantages bitcoin has over gold. The very fact that bitcoin isn't physical and doesn't need to be carried about gives it an edge over gold.
Yes, I know gold did have some advantages over bitcoin which is normal for any comparison between two things, the fact that bitcoin is digital give it great advantage.
Another benefit of bitcoin is that it cannot be trafficked unlike gold. I'm pretty sure a lot of bitcoins would have been siphoned and trafficked if it had been a physical asset


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: shamimal93 on October 23, 2020, 12:55:13 PM
Bitcoin is a digital asset.  It can be easily moved from one place to another.  It does not require any physical touch to carry.  All you need is a crypto wallet on your phone or hardware.  It does not even require a third party to be exchanged.  Now let's talk about the guy who did it.  One thing I don't understand is how he put that gold bar in that sensitive place.  It was not right for him to take such a big risk just for the money.
 If he were a crypto user, he would never have to do this.  This is the difference between Bitcoin and Gold. Physical touch is required to carry gold, but no physical touch is required to carry Bitcoin.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Debonaire217 on October 23, 2020, 02:13:19 PM
This is way too hard to imagine especially when I saw the image of the gold bars. It just came into my mind, is it possible that we can have a digital version of gold with real gold reserve equivalence, meaning, we will acquire the gold cryptocurrency and when we want to withdraw it, it could be in real gold from gold reserves? In that way, people will not spend more time putting the gold to their private parts just for the sake of escaping the taxes or fees they need to pay to transfer the golds.

Though, I also found the disadvantage of it. if there's a huge amount of gold withdrawal, there's a tendency that they still need to physically transfer these golds which will still incur taxes.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: imstillthebest on October 23, 2020, 02:26:47 PM
rectum as in part of the body . i read it different earlier and mistaken that rectum word as a place . this guy is freakin crazy , theres other parts of the body where he can store the gold but why he chose that part.  he undergone on surgery to put the gold or he ate the gold directly and it goes on his rectum ?  moves like this happen in reality but those were lighter items like drug and injected to other body location  . if only the guy use btc instead of gold but tax is tax you cant escape it if you use btc


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: John Kammy on October 24, 2020, 08:00:42 AM
"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com (https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_source=reddit.com)
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?
Oh Gosh...... under this andemic people are ..... just like


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: gurjasmeetsingh on October 24, 2020, 12:52:07 PM
Due to currency is based on digital transactions, l can't think this is will be frauds. Because this currency is easily transactions like moveable to one to another. If we have crypto wallet. Then why not we transaction is our crypto wallet.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Silberman on October 26, 2020, 10:03:08 PM
This is way too hard to imagine especially when I saw the image of the gold bars. It just came into my mind, is it possible that we can have a digital version of gold with real gold reserve equivalence, meaning, we will acquire the gold cryptocurrency and when we want to withdraw it, it could be in real gold from gold reserves? In that way, people will not spend more time putting the gold to their private parts just for the sake of escaping the taxes or fees they need to pay to transfer the golds.

Though, I also found the disadvantage of it. if there's a huge amount of gold withdrawal, there's a tendency that they still need to physically transfer these golds which will still incur taxes.
We supposedly had several cryptocurrencies like that in the past and as you may guess all of them ended up scamming their customers and that is because you are now trusting a third party to hold your gold, this is the same what happened with the governments and look at what they did, they stole the gold of their citizens and then created fiat currencies with no intrinsic value at all, so I can understand why some people will not be willing to part with their gold and this explains the weird news we are discussing here, I just hope this person learns about bitcoin and saves himself the trouble and the pain.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: hahay on October 26, 2020, 10:23:29 PM
This news is the latest information that I got because indeed, previously there were many things that were smuggled in the rectum and even though it was drugs but in large quantities, it was really disgusting. Again and again, a negative action is associated with bitcoin and of course it will make bitcoin's image worse because maybe, we don't know what will happen in the future because if bitcoin does not have a physical form, then of course it will be something that will used for other negative activities. However, crime will always exist in the world, so comparing it to bitcoin will not change anything bitcoin and gold will continue to have its good and bad sides.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: sanjusajan on October 26, 2020, 11:30:14 PM
so, in this way the  people are doing illegal work through it .they should punished badly so that anyone cannot do  it again and i know the illegal work is increasing because of movies ,they make such types of movies and they follow it in their real life.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Kasabus on October 26, 2020, 11:39:52 PM
Bitcoin is a digital asset.  It can be easily moved from one place to another.  It does not require any physical touch to carry.  All you need is a crypto wallet on your phone or hardware.  It does not even require a third party to be exchanged.  Now let's talk about the guy who did it.  One thing I don't understand is how he put that gold bar in that sensitive place.  It was not right for him to take such a big risk just for the money.
 If he were a crypto user, he would never have to do this.  This is the difference between Bitcoin and Gold. Physical touch is required to carry gold, but no physical touch is required to carry Bitcoin.
This guy won't be thinking of doing this illegal stuff if he is knowledgeable about bitcoin. Gold bars are really tantalizing in our eyes but if we think of the consequences once being caught, everything will surely be ruined. Bitcoin transactions are much more secured but this thing like smuggling just to avoid taxes is also not encouraged and be tolerated in bitcoin.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: erikoy on October 26, 2020, 11:41:46 PM
It is because bitcoin is not being monitored for now. Actually government are protecting their asset so that economy will not going to fall down. This is why ahynfiat currency has to be limit when someone carry it going outside to another country.

Fiat currency has really no value in terms of physical aspect but it is the representation of the value of the economy that is why unlike bitcoin fiat is being accepted by the government. Bitcoin is more like an asset and if one day if bitcoin will be acknowledge pretty sure that it will also be limited to carry or hold sort of bitcoins in going to another country and that by means that every bitcoin holders will do KYC and all exchanges will require doing it. No more decentralized aspect for if it do then government will never acknowledge bitcoin like they did now. And if bitcoin could be in a way like being a trouble to government then it will be ban like other countries did.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Silberman on October 30, 2020, 06:13:00 PM
It is because bitcoin is not being monitored for now. Actually government are protecting their asset so that economy will not going to fall down. This is why ahynfiat currency has to be limit when someone carry it going outside to another country.

Fiat currency has really no value in terms of physical aspect but it is the representation of the value of the economy that is why unlike bitcoin fiat is being accepted by the government. Bitcoin is more like an asset and if one day if bitcoin will be acknowledge pretty sure that it will also be limited to carry or hold sort of bitcoins in going to another country and that by means that every bitcoin holders will do KYC and all exchanges will require doing it. No more decentralized aspect for if it do then government will never acknowledge bitcoin like they did now. And if bitcoin could be in a way like being a trouble to government then it will be ban like other countries did.
And how exactly do you think that can work? How are governments going to limit the amount of bitcoin that you move with you when you can move your coins by just remembering your seed words and then installing a wallet and generate it from that seed? Bitcoin in its nature is censorship resistant, gold despite its huge advantages over fiat doesn't have this characteristic and it is a pain, in this case literally, to move from one place to another, but in the case of bitcoin this is no problem at all, and you can move it in a piece of paper, in an electronic device or in whatever way you want and it will be almost impossible to detect it.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: cryptolord2077 on October 30, 2020, 07:19:19 PM
Of course, bitcoin being a digital asset, it can be easily transported anywhere, you can just have your crypto wallet in your phone or hardware wallet, it will make a case for bitcoin, but to evade tax? nah, bitcoiners are too way smarter than that and we shouldn't consider bitcoin as a means for illicit or illegal activities, it wasn't design to be like that in the first place by Satoshi.

Bitcoin was conceived as free "money". We cannot talk about its purpose, since people themselves choose how and where to use it.
If some of the transactions take place in the shadow field, then it should be so. I am pleased with the fact that the share of these shadow funds does not exceed 5%.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: darewaller on October 31, 2020, 05:20:55 AM
Lol you don’t know that what you see in the movies are sometimes real life adaptations? They do happen real life, I have seen so many of them in the news and also heard from people, especially hard substances like cocaine. The process they use to smuggle things like this is crazy and it’s not something that I can explain in writing lol.

But this one of gold is something new to me, I have not heard of anyone trying to smuggle gold’s, never heard this kind of story for once. I wonder how the passenger got his hands on the gold. If he bought it with money, then he must be dumb, because he can buy it online and access it from anywhere around the world.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: xSkylarx on October 31, 2020, 08:33:39 AM
Bitcoin was conceived as free "money". We cannot talk about its purpose, since people themselves choose how and where to use it.
If some of the transactions take place in the shadow field, then it should be so. I am pleased with the fact that the share of these shadow funds does not exceed 5%.

Is it really that small only? But why most people think of something illegal first when they hear about bitcoin. They only know that it's been used by the criminals in the black market but they don't really know what's the real purpose of it.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Ayiranorea on October 31, 2020, 08:44:56 AM
Bitcoin was conceived as free "money". We cannot talk about its purpose, since people themselves choose how and where to use it.
If some of the transactions take place in the shadow field, then it should be so. I am pleased with the fact that the share of these shadow funds does not exceed 5%.

Is it really that small only? But why most people think of something illegal first when they hear about bitcoin. They only know that it's been used by the criminals in the black market but they don't really know what's the real purpose of it.
This is common thinking of people who get to know about bitcoin for the very first time. During the beginning days of bitcoin development, it was much used for illegal and gambling needs. Further the development made it get used on different purposes, but people have its early usage in mind. Slowly people will realise the truth and start using it.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Wawa2013 on October 31, 2020, 09:04:49 AM
I'm fortunate to be familiar with Bitcoin, so there's no need to evade taxes by keeping gold in my ass hole. I can understand the reason
the person did this, because 18% tax was a very large amount. Hopefully someone tells that person about Bitcoin, so that person won't
do anything else weird to avoid taxes.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: proTECH77 on October 31, 2020, 10:37:41 AM
Bitcoin is different from gold which many people never still understand. Bitcoin is a decentralized currency which is not control by the government officials. Your bitcoin is your bitcoin which you have your right to make use of it anytime you want. Bitcoin we don't pay any taxes to government before you can become an investors. No government fees as a bitcoin new users like the way the government impose tax on fiat money investors in the country. It hard for 419 to operate and go free without trace and get the money back to the owner.
We don't disclose our wallet address to public. Any scammer caught most surely face the punishment that such person deserve. Bitcoin is not a centralized currency and it will never centralized currency.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Xinarae* on October 31, 2020, 11:57:59 AM
Everything depends on your own experience bitcoin usually increases its price based on the transaction. Rising currency prices will lead to scams in which case keeping them in a secure wallet will reduce the risk of many people not being able to access them and will result in digital assets. Bitcoin is more expensive than gold and if a person has the ability to provide such products or services he can sell it for bitcoin if he wants. Bitcoin can be used to buy and sell online in the same way that we shop online.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: Silberman on November 04, 2020, 05:30:25 PM
Lol you don’t know that what you see in the movies are sometimes real life adaptations? They do happen real life, I have seen so many of them in the news and also heard from people, especially hard substances like cocaine. The process they use to smuggle things like this is crazy and it’s not something that I can explain in writing lol.

But this one of gold is something new to me, I have not heard of anyone trying to smuggle gold’s, never heard this kind of story for once. I wonder how the passenger got his hands on the gold. If he bought it with money, then he must be dumb, because he can buy it online and access it from anywhere around the world.
It seems he was trying to avoid the taxes he will have to pay in his home country and that is why he choose this particular method to try to cheat the system, the truth is that we are never going to be completely sure about why this happened exactly this way, after all it is not as if gold is are at all, he could just buy it in his country, but I do not know if any purchase of gold is automatically taxed there or if you have to identify yourself regardless of the amount of gold you buy and that is why he went to another country and tried to pass it through an airport, however we must give thanks that bitcoin is digital and you can just store in your mind without having to worry about anyone noticing that you are moving it with you


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on November 04, 2020, 09:20:36 PM
"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com (https://nypost.com/2020/10/16/plane-passenger-caught-smuggling-gold-in-rectum-to-avoid-taxes/?utm_source=reddit.com)
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?

It is really disgusting even when reading the news. Yes, nobody can do something like this with Bitcoin because of its not being a physical currency. But unfortunately, this doesn't mean that bad things like money laundering etc. can't be done on a digital platform. I hope that can be prevented more than now by increasing the security system to a much more better level in the future.


Title: Re: We don't do it in Bitcoin!
Post by: pixie85 on November 04, 2020, 10:13:34 PM
I'm fortunate to be familiar with Bitcoin, so there's no need to evade taxes by keeping gold in my ass hole. I can understand the reason
the person did this, because 18% tax was a very large amount. Hopefully someone tells that person about Bitcoin, so that person won't
do anything else weird to avoid taxes.

He risked it all for 18%. Now they're going to charge him for smuggling and take care of his gold for him.

I hope hie didn't damage any of his internal parts during "transport" because with his wealth in the hands of the police it will be hard for him to pay his medical bill ;)

It's easy to move Bitcoin around and easy to spend it without paying taxes because you can move to a country with a more lenient approach to cryptocurrencies. That guy could have avoided the humiliation if he only knew it.