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October 18, 2020, 03:40:29 AM
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"Plane passenger caught smuggling gold nuggets in rectum to avoid taxes." - nypost.com
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Indian airport authorities literally struck gold when they spotted a man walking oddly — and discovered he had about 2 pounds in bullion shoved into his rectum, according to a report.

This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.

Recently, this news became a little trend everywhere where they compare Bitcoin with Gold on this kind of situation, we all know Bitcoin is intangible, where it is not a physical. Since when you do it on Bitcoin, you don't need some physical things to shoved in your rectum or in any of your body.

What can you say about this?

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October 18, 2020, 04:09:38 AM
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Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.
I've thought of the same but until I've seen news that contraband drugs digested and carrying it as if nothing happened by the courier. This activity is happening in real life.

What can you say about this?
I'm having a thought that there must be some other reasons why the guy have done it. But after reading the article and that's 18% tax, he really have to do it as it's a lot of percentage for that item. They've caught another guy doing it and I think this won't happen again as those smugglers are aware of it already. Comparing it to bitcoin, this is a different scenario but we only need to have recovery words, private keys or seeds to be brought by us everywhere and download a wallet for it to restore, no need to intake anything.

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This is really disgusting when I first saw the headline of this news. Honestly, it's my first time to hear a news like this, since I thought I this is only happened in movies (some of in the movies are illegal drugs) or some happened in real but not gold.
I've seen a lot of such news, many drug or gold smugglers often have ways to try to bypass the police.


What can you say about this?
I think he does it for profit
We do not need to smuggle with bitcoins because bitcoin can be sent to any country in the world, and most importantly, the price of bitcoin in the world is nearly equal.


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October 18, 2020, 04:38:25 AM
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This is disgusting in our perspective but if you were in the shoes of the same person, there is a whole new thing going on. Most smugglers are poor to the bone and they do not have any means of doing an honest job because they either are not given the oppurtunity to do so or they are oppressed by many that they can't get a decent one. We all judge people by their actions which is a fallacy itself, I was once like that but then I am the same as anyone, I have intentions and those thing do not show that is why it is easy to judge them by action. Regarding smuggling bitcoin, you just need to have a paper wallet that looks like the size of other coin and you are set.

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October 18, 2020, 05:02:20 AM
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While it shows how Bitcoin is different from Gold, I do not think we should promote bitcoin as a means of easily evading taxes. This is one of the ideas used to push the narrative that Bitcoin facilitates illegal activities and is used to launder money, leading to it getting seized in certain circumstances.
Also, while you may not have to smuggle Bitcoin in the manner of this case, airport authorities can also still check bitcoin wallets (software or hardware) or private keys in your possession at that time and these could be seized depending on the legal stance of Bitcoin in that country.

To avoid excessive regulations placed on Bitcoin or in threatening situations where your funds are at risk, you can check out this thread on plausible deniability - [Wiki] An Informal Introduction to Plausible Deniability.

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October 18, 2020, 05:54:48 AM
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Lol, I just saw this news yesterday.

I wonder how the heck did he smuggle those neavy gold bars in his ass without looking like he just took the biggest shit in his life?

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October 18, 2020, 06:01:27 AM
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Aren't there any metal detectors on airports?How did he bypass the metal detectors(or maybe he didn't)? Grin
Can't metal detectors detect gold?Is this guy really dumb,or yes he is so dumb?So many questions... Grin
Maybe he isn't tech savvy and he can't use a computer,so that's why he isn't using Bitcoin instead of gold.
Anyway,I wouldn't stick anything valuable in my ass,even if the tax rate is 50%,not 18%.


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October 18, 2020, 06:01:57 AM
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Of course, bitcoin being a digital asset, it can be easily transported anywhere, you can just have your crypto wallet in your phone or hardware wallet, it will make a case for bitcoin, but to evade tax? nah, bitcoiners are too way smarter than that and we shouldn't consider bitcoin as a means for illicit or illegal activities, it wasn't design to be like that in the first place by Satoshi.

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October 18, 2020, 06:17:46 AM
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Paying 18% in taxes can seem unfair to many Indians who have apparently slogged it out in the gulf countries to save enough and return to their home states. The cases generally involve expats returning from gulf after working in menial jobs there.

Unfortunately, things are not as simple as that. With all the scanning and imagery available at airports these days, it is surprising that these people still dare to risk losing all of their money (against paying 18% tax) as well as risking their bodies to such extents.  For those who know Indian society, Kerala is the state which had its name maligned after several Muslim youths joined ISIS. There is a dominant Muslim population with links in the Gulf. The Gulf states have sponsored covert actions in India because of its history with Pakistan. So the investigation agencies are fully involved in several such cases as this is suspected to be terror financing.

This is the kind of stuff that also makes it difficult for the general public to accept bitcoin because it can be quickly linked to terror financing.
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Paying 18% in taxes can seem unfair to many Indians who have apparently slogged it out in the gulf countries to save enough and return to their home states. The cases generally involve expats returning from gulf after working in menial jobs there.

Unfortunately, things are not as simple as that. With all the scanning and imagery available at airports these days, it is surprising that these people still dare to risk losing all of their money (against paying 18% tax) as well as risking their bodies to such extents.  For those who know Indian society, Kerala is the state which had its name maligned after several Muslim youths joined ISIS. There is a dominant Muslim population with links in the Gulf. The Gulf states have sponsored covert actions in India because of its history with Pakistan. So the investigation agencies are fully involved in several such cases as this is suspected to be terror financing.

This is the kind of stuff that also makes it difficult for the general public to accept bitcoin because it can be quickly linked to terror financing.

He should have played it cool. For sure, he attracted attention the way he was walking. If he walked like normal, he might have passed all the checkpoints. It also shows that their checkpoints are not that strict. But yeah, when you talk about btc vs gold, of course the transaction is very different. Or maybe, he should have bought btc and sent it to his wallet, and exchanged it to his local fiat, then buy gold.
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Anyway,I wouldn't stick anything valuable in my ass,even if the tax rate is 50%,not 18%.


I think we shouldn't be sticking anything up our asses Wink

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October 18, 2020, 06:55:22 AM
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It’s ridiculous the impression they put the gold in the rectum. But for Indian Customs and its baggage regulations, it prohibits passengers’ destination India from carrying more gold jewelry than specified. Therefore, it is not surprising that there are passengers of Indian majors doing this kind of action because it avoids tax.
According to information for men, carryable gold should not be over 3.57 grams, while for women it should not be over 7.15 grams.
For the latest information, perhaps indians who are more understanding.
And For Bitcoin, it need not be like that  Grin

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Well yes, technically we don't do that in Bitcoin since we can't do that in Bitcoin in digital form. I think the closest thing that could happen like that is when scammers or money launderers are using physical papers which have bitcoin wallet written in it then selling that paper to a client instead of using exchange.

Pretty bold of him to do that though.
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What can you say about this?
If only this passenger know how Bitcoin works then he must've not get caught by the authorities.

If only he just transfer it into Bitcoin then he might've been free right now. What I see funny though is he put it in his rectum Cheesy. Well if you want to smuggle goods, you need to put it in the place of your body that isn't be seen that easily but the passenger still failed Cheesy. He is walking oddly so it is already a sign that there is something wrong with the passenger.

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Bitcoin is traceble too. Not the best solutions to avoid taxes
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October 18, 2020, 10:21:44 AM
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I'm sorry about this guy. Some people are willing to do a lot for the sake of money. Someone sells their kidneys, and someone donates their ass and transports kilograms of gold. He will have something to remember in old age.  Grin Grin

If we return to bitcoins, then this story is one of those that prove that violations of tax payments or various kinds of smuggling, often do not concern cryptocurrencies at all. You and I understand that sending an amount equal to the value of gold in bitcoin would not require such sacrifices. But not all scammers are knowledgeable about cryptocurrencies. And it pleases. Therefore, it is very unfair to blame Bitcoin for all shadow transactions, as legislators like to do.

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October 18, 2020, 11:19:25 AM
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He should have played it cool. For sure, he attracted attention the way he was walking. If he walked like normal, he might have passed all the checkpoints.

2 pounds of gold, judging by the picture with most of them being a bit flat would mean he has something like 2x2x13 cm(yeah metric system)  in his ass, do you think you could walk normally with something like that? The volume might not be a problem but gold is insanely dense, I'm almost sure he will have to see a doctor pretty soon, there is no way in hell he could have kept that in there to much without damage to his sphincter.

It's one thing to carry something less dense that is distributed on a larger surface and a totally different thing to carry around gold. According to the news I've read customs police say carrying around one pound or even 1, 1/2 of cocaine in small bags is doable even to "newbies".

Aren't there any metal detectors on airports?How did he bypass the metal detectors(or maybe he didn't)? Grin
Can't metal detectors detect gold?Is this guy really dumb,or yes he is so dumb?So many questions... Grin

Metal detectors detect gold even easier than other metals, they can even detect your fillings, that's they are set to ignore small amounts by the surface, fillings, small badges, pins or zippers, in his case they were flat and pretty long, the scanner (if activated) would have gone nuts the moment he would have passed through it.


why man do that? I feel sick at the thought. he doesn't know bitcoin yet, if he already knows bitcoin there is no way he could do that, bitcoin can be stored in a crypto wallet, if you sell it to FIAT currency in a matter of minutes it is over and it will be in your bank account. this is the great thing that bitcoin has

Why? Money!!! Money is the reason for which we do almost everything.
As for your solution, after he gets his money in his bank...he will get taxed,which this guy tried to avoid.

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October 18, 2020, 11:41:38 AM
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This is disgusting in our perspective but if you were in the shoes of the same person, there is a whole new thing going on. Most smugglers are poor to the bone and they do not have any means of doing an honest job because they either are not given the oppurtunity to do so or they are oppressed by many that they can't get a decent one. We all judge people by their actions which is a fallacy itself, I was once like that but then I am the same as anyone, I have intentions and those thing do not show that is why it is easy to judge them by action. Regarding smuggling bitcoin, you just need to have a paper wallet that looks like the size of other coin and you are set.
Doing so will embarass themselves and that is quite true. People do things because of a reason and in this case that is probably avoidance of taxation. It just cahes to see the frustration of people just because of 'money', that is how hard earning money is, nowadays. Bitcoin is not yet regularized to most of the countries and with that being said, it is free of tax at this moment.
Bitcoin is traceble too. Not the best solutions to avoid taxes
It can be traced by I doubt that is enough to be taxed since it is decentralized.
 

Anyway,I wouldn't stick anything valuable in my ass,even if the tax rate is 50%,not 18%.


I hope you can still say that if ever you will be in that man's shoe. That is more likely due to frustrations. And that is sad to hear such thing happens on things aside from drugs.

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October 18, 2020, 11:43:56 AM
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And the craziest thing is that how he can manage to put it in his ass with that big chunks of gold? How desperate is that just to make money and even risk his life? He's no way he can make it in this modern situation and new technology.

I'm not sure if this is the first time he did this, but probably he'll do this before 50 years ago when there is no metal detector, no scanner, just passing through the lines.

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October 18, 2020, 11:47:10 AM
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Bitcoin is traceble too. Not the best solutions to avoid taxes

You can always sell your coins in a p2p transaction or just buying a product on line Wink
In topic again, I think it was a really pain transport an huge load like this one. But probably it really worths this effort, probably this is an amount of money that they can earn in a lot of time.
Bitcoin has been described more times as a medium that can bypass physical limit of gold. Like in this case, storing bitcoin confirm this big advantage Grin

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