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Title: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: nonamenoname20 on October 21, 2020, 08:38:19 PM Hello, I've recently been exploring relations between Hal Finney and Satoshi.
I've discovered a entity in a database, (snakaomto, 1395097042, satoshin@gmx.net, 184.164.*6.*22) IP address redacted to avoid leaking sensitive info. On further investigation, 1395097042 is the timestamp the user registered. It resolves to Monday, March 17, 2014 10:57:22 PM This would mean it would've been possible for Hal Finney to register the account as he was still alive then. Even more interesting is the IP address (184.164.*6.*22) the location of this IP address is Phoenix, Arizona, USA. This was the last location of Hal Finney before he sadly passed away. NOTE: I mean NO HARM whatsoever by posting this info, its purely information and speculation Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: zasad@ on October 21, 2020, 08:53:51 PM Do you think you've solved the most important mystery of the cryptocurrency world?
Before writing something about Satoshi, please study this list. I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796 First, read the rules of the forum and the punishment for plagiarism. If you copy something, do not forget to link Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: nonamenoname20 on October 21, 2020, 08:57:07 PM No, i don't think i've solved the mystery. However my theory could be somewhat useful.
I didn't copy anything. All research was done using known email addresses of Satoshi. Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: LeGaulois on October 21, 2020, 09:02:00 PM It is possible that this email address was already compromised at that time.
Theymos posted a topic in 2014. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0 So in September the email was already compromised. This leaves only a few months gap but we can assume that in March it was also jeopardized. Also, the IP address doesn't mean much, it could be the IP of a server and a VPS located there. edit Quote I thought the satoshin@gmx.com email was compromised, not satoshin@gmx.net My bad, you're right. I've never paid attention to .com and .net Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: nonamenoname20 on October 21, 2020, 09:03:51 PM Yes @LeGaulois I agree the IP address doesn't mean much. It just seemed suspicious to me that Hal is located in the same town.
I thought the satoshin@gmx.com email was compromised, not satoshin@gmx.net Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: BitcoinFX on October 21, 2020, 09:46:48 PM Historical Maxmind GeoIP data indicates an IP reallocation of ranges in California to Arizona (some time ago ...) ;)
Perhaps the truth has long been hidden in plain sight after all. Hal = (originally part of or 'networked' as) satoshi Nakamoto is seemingly someone else entirely ... See: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? - https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/ Topic: Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ... - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.0 Who knows? :D - https://youtu.be/LJsVDH-3b3Y ... ...snip... Hal Finney though, was telling us the truth! ...snip... ...snip...Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere. I've had the good fortune to know many brilliant people over the course of my life, so I recognize the signs. ...snip... Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: nonamenoname20 on October 21, 2020, 10:24:02 PM @BitcoinFX Are you saying that IP range was reallocated from Cali to Arizona? If so what dates? I'll check the ASN records aswell.
Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: BitcoinFX on October 21, 2020, 11:13:59 PM @BitcoinFX Are you saying that IP range was reallocated from Cali to Arizona? If so what dates? I'll check the ASN records aswell. Which IP address ? "Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the Masters; seek what they sought." - Zen saying ... Unlikely clouds ... - https://youtu.be/CdMs7eqMvNg Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: kawetsriyanto on October 21, 2020, 11:32:39 PM Damn! You've just registered today and the first post you made is speculation between Hal Finney and Satoshi. Can you tell me where do you get this information? I've seen many newbies but rarely saw they posted something very technical like this on the first day they come here. Especially, you seem to try breaking the mystery of Satoshi only in a single day. I'm amazed! :o
Anyway, do you think by discovering the correlation of IP address (184.164.*6.*22) between Hal Finney and Satoshi, mean you know the truth? Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: TravelMug on October 22, 2020, 12:38:28 AM Or the satoshin@gmx.net email was also compromised as well?
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/19/RK9iI.png https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8302887 So we can't really conclude that IP address belongs to Satoshi or if there is a connection to Hal. Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: tbct_mt2 on October 22, 2020, 01:45:10 AM The creator of Bitcoin knows how to hide identity and traces on the Internet. Satoshi knows how he or she or they can be a target of governments and many bitcoin enthusiasts.
The only person who had contributions in bitcoin protocol and development and had connection with Satoshi is Hal. If Hal did not disclose it, no one knows. And I believe Hal also did not know who is Satoshi. Hal with passed away years ago so we lost. Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: BitcoinFX on October 22, 2020, 10:33:03 AM The information the OP has provided is without source or citation.
The blog post linked in my post contains historically valid meta data. - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283565.msg55425800#msg55425800 :-X Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: FACE 2 FACE on October 22, 2020, 10:52:06 AM The guys who created bitcoin (whether it was one person or a lot - it doesn't matter) did everything so flawlessly that now trying to find traces is probably almost impossible. If somewhere there is real reliable information about who is behind the creation of bitcoin, then surely this information should be sought in organizations such as the NSA or FBI ;D
Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: 100bitcoin on October 22, 2020, 10:53:56 AM I've discovered a entity in a database, (snakaomto, 1395097042, satoshin@gmx.net, 184.164.*6.*22) IP address redacted to avoid leaking sensitive info. Which database you are talking about?Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: nonamenoname20 on October 22, 2020, 06:22:24 PM I've discovered a entity in a database, (snakaomto, 1395097042, satoshin@gmx.net, 184.164.*6.*22) IP address redacted to avoid leaking sensitive info. Which database you are talking about?Bitcointalk database Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 22, 2020, 09:43:38 PM Are you dumb, play as dumb or do you think that we are dumb? What BitcoinTalk database are you talking about? Can you be more specific? Even if this database would exist, how did you get access to it? Did you hack the forum? If so, you could inform theymos about the vulnerability. He pays in gold those finding security flaws.
Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: Yaunfitda on October 22, 2020, 10:44:27 PM The title of the thread should be change to "False link between Hal Finney and Satoshi". Because there was no relation to Hal and Satoshi obviously.
@GazetaBitcoin - for the record, bitcointalk users are not that dumb, ;D. The author claiming to have a database? yeah right. Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 23, 2020, 03:48:17 AM @GazetaBitcoin - for the record, bitcointalk users are not that dumb, ;D. Obviously. I was asking OP if he thinks we are dumb. Because this is what I think he is believes. And he is wrong. More likely, he is so dumb to think that all the experienced users here would listen / believe his BS. So he was the only one in 10 years to see the proof in a database - in BitcoinTalk's very own database - and nobody else saw that. Not even theymos. Makes sense :) Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: Wind_FURY on October 23, 2020, 05:41:59 AM Historical Maxmind GeoIP data indicates an IP reallocation of ranges in California to Arizona (some time ago ...) ;) Perhaps the truth has long been hidden in plain sight after all. Hal = (originally part of or 'networked' as) satoshi Nakamoto is seemingly someone else entirely ... See: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ? - https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/ Topic: Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ... - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.0 Who knows? :D - https://youtu.be/LJsVDH-3b3Y ... ...snip... Hal Finney though, was telling us the truth! ...snip... ...snip...Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere. I've had the good fortune to know many brilliant people over the course of my life, so I recognize the signs. ...snip... Hal Finney has the most probability to be Satoshi, if you ask me. "Satoshi" went to great lengths to hide his real identity by doing things like coding in Windows, and probably do something laughable like make discussions using multiple accounts in the forum. Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: proTECH77 on October 23, 2020, 07:57:09 AM Satoshi Nakamoto was a man of wisdom who took his time to study what will happen in the future concerning the creator of bitcoin. Many people are still coming out to claim they are Satoshi but fail to identify Satoshi IP address. I think the relationship between Hal Finney and Satoshi is just a friendship they have for a long time during their higher institution. You need to do more research about Hal Finney who some people think he is the Satoshi because is acting like Satoshi in the community. With the IP address of Satoshi Nakamoto you will understand better that Hal Finney is just a bitcoin family members not the creator.
Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: nonamenoname20 on October 23, 2020, 05:41:46 PM @GazetaBitcoin BitcoinTalk had a breach in 2015. The database is publicly available on forums such as Cracked.to and Raidforums.....
Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 23, 2020, 06:08:37 PM @GazetaBitcoin BitcoinTalk had a breach in 2015. The database is publicly available on forums such as Cracked.to and Raidforums..... Can you post a link if it is publicly available? Besides, this is theymos' statement about the 2015 hack: On May 22 at 00:56 UTC, an attacker gained root access to the forum's server. He then proceeded to try to acquire a dump of the forum's database before I noticed this at around 1:08 and shut down the server. In the intervening time, it seems that he was able to collect some or all of the "members" table. You should assume that the following information about your account was leaked: - Email address - Password hash (see below) - Last-used IP address and registration IP address - Secret question and a basic (not brute-force-resistant) hash of your secret answer - Various settings As such, you should change your password here and anywhere else you used that same password. You should disable your secret question and assume that the attacker now knows your answer to your secret question. You should prepare to receive phishing emails at your forum email address. While nothing can ever be ruled out in these sorts of situations, I do not believe that the attacker was able to collect any personal messages or other sensitive data beyond what I listed above. Passwords are hashed with 7500 rounds of sha256crypt. This is pretty good, but certainly not beyond attack. Note that even though SHA-256 is used here, sha256crypt is different enough from Bitcoin's SHA-256d PoW algorithm that Bitcoin mining ASICs almost certainly cannot be modified to crack forum passwords. I will now go into detail about how well you can expect your password to fare against a determined attacker. However, regardless of how strong your password is, the only prudent course of action is for you to immediately change your password here and everywhere else you used it or a similar password. The following table shows how long it will take on average for a rather powerful attacker to recover RANDOM passwords using current technology, depending on the password's alphabet and length. If your password is not completely random (ie. generated with the help of dice or a computer random number generator), then you should assume that your password is already broken. It is not especially helpful to turn words into leetspeak or put stuff between words. If you have a password like "w0rd71Voc4b", then you should count that as just 2 words to be safe. In reality, your extra stuff will slow an attacker down, but the effect is probably much less than you'd think. Again, the times listed in the table only apply if the words were chosen at random from a word list. If the words are significant in any way, and especially if they form a grammatical sentence or are a quote from a book/webpage/article/etc., then you should consider your password to be broken. Code: Estimated time (conservative) for an attacker to break randomly-constructed Each password has its own 12-byte random salt, so it isn't possible to attack more than one password with the same work. If it takes someone 5 days to recover your password, that time will all have to be spent on your password. Therefore, it's likely that only weak passwords will be recovered en masse -- more complicated passwords will be recovered only in targeted attacks against certain people. If your account is compromised due to this, email acctcomp15@theymos.e4ward.com from the email that was previously associated with your account. For security reasons, I deleted all drafts. If you need a deleted draft, contact me soon and I can probably give it to you. A few people might have broken avatars now. Just upload your avatar again to fix it. Unproxyban fee processing isn't working right now. If you want to register and you can't, get someone to post in Meta for you and you'll be whitelisted. Searching is temporarily disabled, though it won't be disabled for as long as last time because I improved the reindexing code. If you changed your password in the short time when the forum was online a little over a day ago, the change didn't stick. You'll have to change it again. How the compromise happened: The attacker was able to acquire KVM access credentials for the server. The investigation into how this was possible is still ongoing, so I don't know everything, and I don't yet want to publish everything that I do know, but it seems almost certain that it was a problem on the ISP's end. After he got KVM access, the attacker convinced the ISP NFOrce that he was me (using his KVM access as part of his evidence) and said that he had locked himself out of the server. So NFOrce reset the server's root password for him, giving him complete access to the server and bypassing most of our carefully-designed security measures. I originally assumed that the attacker gained access entirely via social engineering, but later investigation showed that this was probably only part of the overall attack. As far as I know, NFOrce's overall security practices are no worse than average. To reduce downtime and avoid temporarily-broken features, I was originally going to stay in NFOrce's data center. However, some things made me suspicious and I moved everything elsewhere. That's where the extra day+ of downtime came from after a short period of uptime. No additional data was leaked. The forum will pay up to 15 XAU (converted to BTC) for information about the attacker's real-world identity. Exact payment amounts will depend on the quality and usefulness of information as well as what information I've already acquired, but if for example you're the first person to contact me and your info allows me to successfully prosecute this person, then you will get the full 15 XAU. You need to actually convince me that your info is accurate -- just sending me someone's name is useless. The attacker used the following IPs/email: 37.48.77.227 66.172.27.160 lopaz291@safe-mail.net Now where did you see exactly the connection to Hal? If it's publicly available there is nothing to hide, right? Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: Krislaw on October 23, 2020, 06:29:38 PM No proof or connection and this is just misleading. Satoshi won't even leave footprints that can be easily traced just like you just did. No misery here, just theories which lead to nowhere.
Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: BitcoinFX on October 24, 2020, 11:17:36 PM ...snip... Now where did you see exactly the connection to Hal? If it's publicly available there is nothing to hide, right? I think its highly likely that the OP has simply conflated circumstantial information here. Presenting a random bitcointalk user account (allegedly from this forum) and then making some assertions based on the fact that Hal was still alive. That is all. ... Again, if you seek more genuine historical meta data for a "True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi" digest the following blog post ... 6. California - https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/ ... ...snip... "from cypherpunks mailing list 1994" - https://twitter.com/pmullr/status/1140205832535269376 PLACE: Van Nuys ... BUSES: The 420 is the most frequent, ... You can separate the facts from the fiction. ...snip... Bran Van 3000 - Drinking in L.A. - https://youtu.be/OQsQZvsR_QI ~ Knowing the true identity of the Satoshi Nakamoto ? Priceless ? Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: FACE 2 FACE on October 27, 2020, 12:11:45 PM More than 10 years have passed since the creation of bitcoin. And during this time there was not a single confirmed version about Satoshi. Only theories. Does anyone still have any doubts about the fact that the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto will never be established? I think this secret behind seven seals is reliably guarded by those who are behind the creation of bitcoin. And I don't believe there was some kind of Satoshi. Bitcoin was created by the same people who now manage all the money in the world.
Title: Re: True link between Hal Finney and Satoshi Post by: SquallLeonhart on October 28, 2020, 05:58:23 PM Lol ;D why do y’all keep bothering so much about this issue of who is the founder of Bitcoin and who is not?
Let’s just accept the fact that he’s a mystery man that doesn’t want to reveal his identity. If we come to accept that we simply don’t know who he is, what’s going to happen? Bitcoin has been working properly and the community keeps moving and nothing has been stopped, despite we don’t know who the Satoshi Nakamoto is, it still never changed anything.I have seen so many theories before yours, even the ones that are longer than your own with lots of details and all that, but they still haven’t discovered who it is. |
