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October 21, 2020, 08:38:19 PM
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Hello, I've recently been exploring relations between Hal Finney and Satoshi.

I've discovered a entity in a database, (snakaomto, 1395097042, satoshin@gmx.net, 184.164.*6.*22) IP address redacted to avoid leaking sensitive info.

On further investigation, 1395097042 is the timestamp the user registered. It resolves to Monday, March 17, 2014 10:57:22 PM

This would mean it would've been possible for Hal Finney to register the account as he was still alive then.

Even more interesting is the IP address (184.164.*6.*22) the location of this IP address is Phoenix, Arizona, USA. This was the last location of Hal Finney before he sadly passed away.

NOTE: I mean NO HARM whatsoever by posting this info, its purely information and speculation
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October 21, 2020, 08:53:51 PM
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Do you think you've solved the most important mystery of the cryptocurrency world?

Before writing something about Satoshi, please study this list.
I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796

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October 21, 2020, 08:57:07 PM
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No, i don't think i've solved the mystery. However my theory could be somewhat useful.

I didn't copy anything. All research was done using known email addresses of Satoshi.
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October 21, 2020, 09:02:00 PM
Last edit: October 21, 2020, 09:20:36 PM by LeGaulois
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It is possible that this email address was already compromised at that time.
Theymos posted a topic in 2014. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0 So in September the email was already compromised.
This leaves only a few months gap but we can assume that in March it was also jeopardized.

Also, the IP address doesn't mean much, it could be the IP of a server and a VPS located there.


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I thought the satoshin@gmx.com email was compromised, not satoshin@gmx.net

My bad, you're right. I've never paid attention to .com and .net

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October 21, 2020, 09:03:51 PM
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Yes @LeGaulois I agree the IP address doesn't mean much. It just seemed suspicious to me that Hal is located in the same town.

I thought the satoshin@gmx.com email was compromised, not satoshin@gmx.net
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October 21, 2020, 09:46:48 PM
Last edit: October 21, 2020, 10:09:38 PM by BitcoinFX
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Historical Maxmind GeoIP data indicates an IP reallocation of ranges in California to Arizona (some time ago ...)  Wink

Perhaps the truth has long been hidden in plain sight after all.

Hal = (originally part of or 'networked' as) satoshi

Nakamoto is seemingly someone else entirely ... See:

Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ?
- https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/

Topic: Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.0

Who knows?  Cheesy
- https://youtu.be/LJsVDH-3b3Y

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...snip...

Hal Finney though, was telling us the truth!

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Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere. I've had the good fortune to know many brilliant people over the course of my life, so I recognize the signs.

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October 21, 2020, 10:24:02 PM
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@BitcoinFX Are you saying that IP range was reallocated from Cali to Arizona? If so what dates? I'll check the ASN records aswell.
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October 21, 2020, 11:13:59 PM
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@BitcoinFX Are you saying that IP range was reallocated from Cali to Arizona? If so what dates? I'll check the ASN records aswell.

Which IP address ?

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October 21, 2020, 11:32:39 PM
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Damn! You've just registered today and the first post you made is speculation between Hal Finney and Satoshi. Can you tell me where do you get this information? I've seen many newbies but rarely saw they posted something very technical like this on the first day they come here. Especially, you seem to try breaking the mystery of Satoshi only in a single day. I'm amazed!  Shocked

Anyway, do you think by discovering the correlation of IP address (184.164.*6.*22) between Hal Finney and Satoshi, mean you know the truth?

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October 22, 2020, 12:38:28 AM
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Or the satoshin@gmx.net email was also compromised as well?



https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8302887

So we can't really conclude that IP address belongs to Satoshi or if there is a connection to Hal.

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October 22, 2020, 01:45:10 AM
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The creator of Bitcoin knows how to hide identity and traces on the Internet. Satoshi knows how he or she or they can be a target of governments and many bitcoin enthusiasts.

The only person who had contributions in bitcoin protocol and development and had connection with Satoshi is Hal. If Hal did not disclose it, no one knows. And I believe Hal also did not know who is Satoshi. Hal with passed away years ago so we lost.
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October 22, 2020, 10:33:03 AM
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The information the OP has provided is without source or citation.

The blog post linked in my post contains historically valid meta data.
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283565.msg55425800#msg55425800

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The guys who created bitcoin (whether it was one person or a lot - it doesn't matter) did everything so flawlessly that now trying to find traces is probably almost impossible. If somewhere there is real reliable information about who is behind the creation of bitcoin, then surely this information should be sought in organizations such as the NSA or FBI  Grin
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October 22, 2020, 10:53:56 AM
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I've discovered a entity in a database, (snakaomto, 1395097042, satoshin@gmx.net, 184.164.*6.*22) IP address redacted to avoid leaking sensitive info.
Which database you are talking about?

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I've discovered a entity in a database, (snakaomto, 1395097042, satoshin@gmx.net, 184.164.*6.*22) IP address redacted to avoid leaking sensitive info.
Which database you are talking about?

Bitcointalk database
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Are you dumb, play as dumb or do you think that we are dumb? What BitcoinTalk database are you talking about? Can you be more specific? Even if this database would exist, how did you get access to it? Did you hack the forum? If so, you could inform theymos about the vulnerability. He pays in gold those finding security flaws.

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October 22, 2020, 10:44:27 PM
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The title of the thread should be change to "False link between Hal Finney and Satoshi". Because there was no relation to Hal and Satoshi obviously.

@GazetaBitcoin  - for the record, bitcointalk users are not that dumb,  Grin.

The author claiming to have a database? yeah right.

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October 23, 2020, 03:48:17 AM
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@GazetaBitcoin  - for the record, bitcointalk users are not that dumb,  Grin.

Obviously. I was asking OP if he thinks we are dumb. Because this is what I think he is believes. And he is wrong. More likely, he is so dumb to think that all the experienced users here would listen / believe his BS. So he was the only one in 10 years to see the proof in a database - in BitcoinTalk's very own database - and nobody else saw that. Not even theymos. Makes sense Smiley

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October 23, 2020, 05:41:59 AM
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Historical Maxmind GeoIP data indicates an IP reallocation of ranges in California to Arizona (some time ago ...)  Wink

Perhaps the truth has long been hidden in plain sight after all.

Hal = (originally part of or 'networked' as) satoshi

Nakamoto is seemingly someone else entirely ... See:

Who is Satoshi Nakamoto ?
- https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/

Topic: Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ...
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.0

Who knows?  Cheesy
- https://youtu.be/LJsVDH-3b3Y

...

...snip...

Hal Finney though, was telling us the truth!

...snip...

Today, Satoshi's true identity has become a mystery. But at the time, I thought I was dealing with a young man of Japanese ancestry who was very smart and sincere. I've had the good fortune to know many brilliant people over the course of my life, so I recognize the signs.

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Hal Finney has the most probability to be Satoshi, if you ask me. "Satoshi" went to great lengths to hide his real identity by doing things like coding in Windows, and probably do something laughable like make discussions using multiple accounts in the forum.

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October 23, 2020, 07:57:09 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto was a man of wisdom who took his time to study what will happen in the future concerning the creator of bitcoin. Many people are still coming out to claim they are Satoshi but fail to identify Satoshi IP address. I think the relationship between Hal Finney and Satoshi is just a friendship they have for a long time during their higher institution. You need to do more research about Hal Finney who some people think he is the Satoshi because is acting like Satoshi in the community. With the IP address of Satoshi Nakamoto you will understand better that Hal Finney is just a bitcoin  family members not the creator.

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