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Title: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Juggy777 on November 15, 2020, 04:26:34 PM
I was browsing through my twitter feeds when I read a hashtag which said that #trumpconcedes, and I thought that it’s finally over.

Also to be absolutely sure I quickly googled few news site, and all had the same catchy title that Trump has conceded, and then I opened Trump’s twitter account where he does admit that Biden has won, but he hasn’t conceded, and now I’m not even sure what to make of his tweets anymore.

https://funkyimg.com/i/38E1S.jpeg

https://funkyimg.com/i/38E1U.jpeg
Sources:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1327962227878596611

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327979630477922304

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/15/trump-admits-biden-won-falsely-claims-election-was-rigged.html


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Gyfts on November 15, 2020, 04:29:33 PM
"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: eddie13 on November 15, 2020, 04:33:40 PM
Their are a bunch of states that are within just a few 10k votes and could easily flip if their is much of any amount of illegal votes to be thrown out..


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 15, 2020, 04:43:43 PM
I was browsing through my twitter feeds when I read a hashtag which said that #trumpconcedes, and I thought that it’s finally over.

Also to be absolutely sure I quickly googled few news site, and all had the same catchy title that Trump has conceded, and then I opened Trump’s twitter account where he does admit that Biden has won, but he hasn’t conceded, and now I’m not even sure what to make of his tweets anymore.

https://funkyimg.com/i/38E1S.jpeg

https://funkyimg.com/i/38E1U.jpeg
Sources:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1327962227878596611

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327979630477922304

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/15/trump-admits-biden-won-falsely-claims-election-was-rigged.html

the scam media cartel tries at all cost to shut down trump without exposing themselves as neonazis and fascists. trump has just to continue he only will win and the cnn fraud media gets exposed as evil


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: countryfree on November 15, 2020, 05:38:32 PM
This man has balls.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 15, 2020, 05:39:30 PM
trump needs to be careful the corrupt old media cartel, tries at all costs to get him to admit defeat.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Mauser on November 15, 2020, 06:14:48 PM
I was browsing through my twitter feeds when I read a hashtag which said that #trumpconcedes, and I thought that it’s finally over.

Also to be absolutely sure I quickly googled few news site, and all had the same catchy title that Trump has conceded, and then I opened Trump’s twitter account where he does admit that Biden has won, but he hasn’t conceded, and now I’m not even sure what to make of his tweets anymore.



I think Trump is still looking at his options and what is best for himself and his family. If there is more public support he might be able to fight the elctions in court and could drag out the results into next year. But what is more likely in my opinion would be to keep pushing Ivanka Trump and try to make her the first female president 2024 or 2028.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Spendulus on November 15, 2020, 08:53:47 PM
"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.

"bum equipment" because, exactly like it says, TX rejected it and for good reason. You could read about that and learn a bit.

Oh, never mind, I see you are intent on parroting the lines of the moment.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Gyfts on November 15, 2020, 08:59:16 PM
"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.

"bum equipment" because, exactly like it says, TX rejected it and for good reason. You could read about that and learn a bit.

Oh, never mind, I see you are intent on parroting the lines of the moment.

Save this post for when Biden gets inaugurated in January. I'm not parroting any lines. I wanted Trump to win, it's just time to get the fuck over it because there is literally nothing we can do to overturn the results. Trump lost too many states by too large of a margin.

I am not jumping for joy over a Biden admin and if there were a viable path for him not to be President, it'd be great. Just not the case.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: squatz1 on November 15, 2020, 09:03:01 PM
"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.

+1 to that.

Even with the small victories that they're getting in Pennsylvania, they're not enough to let the courts invalidate hundreds of thousands of votes that would most likely favor Biden. So yeah, have to agree with that.

Trump is going to continue on with this little battle for a little bit though. Guy loves to be relevant so it's important for him to stay relevant and to keep eyes on him. That's also big in ensuring that he continues to show his power over the GOP.

I've been reading some articles saying that Trump is thinking about forming his own digital media company with a subscription model of business. Getting his lucrative lists of voter information (his voters) and trying to get them to pay $5.99 a month for a news service ran by him. Something that competes with Fox, OANN, and so on and so forth. We'll see where that goes. Guess he could also buy something that is already out there.



Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Spendulus on November 15, 2020, 09:07:27 PM
"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.

"bum equipment" because, exactly like it says, TX rejected it and for good reason. You could read about that and learn a bit.

Oh, never mind, I see you are intent on parroting the lines of the moment.

Save this post for when Biden gets inaugurated in January. I'm not parroting any lines. I wanted Trump to win, it's just time to get the fuck over it because there is literally nothing we can do to overturn the results. Trump lost too many states by too large of a margin.

I am not jumping for joy over a Biden admin and if there were a viable path for him not to be President, it'd be great. Just not the case.

What I expected. Continue the narrative, ignore the "bum equipment" issue. Well, you brought it up, you can take it down. Whatever.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on November 15, 2020, 11:23:51 PM
I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.
He doesn't need to actually flip any states. All he needs to do is have state presidential elections invalidated due to problems with enough votes. If Trump can prove more ballots were illegal (due to one of many reasons) than Biden's margin of victory, the courts will either call another election or prevent the state from casting their electoral votes.

The only way I can see him actually flipping a state is via a recount, or if there was problem software used such as Dominion, and a 'manual' recount shows the vote totals were incorrect.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: BADecker on November 16, 2020, 12:14:51 AM
The media is using political science. Political science says that no matter about anything else, whoever talks the loudest and the mostest is right... lies or no lies. Now PS is being applied to this election and Trump by the media, just like it has been applied to evolution and the age of the Earth.


"I Concede Nothing": Trump Blasts "Fake News Media" For Saying He Conceded To Biden (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/294365-2020-11-15-i-concede-nothing-trump-blasts-fake-news-media-for-saying.htm)



In a tweet which Bloomberg and various other mainstream media outlets immediately dubbed an "apparent concession" by the president, shortly before 8am ET Trump - who has so far refused to acknowledge Biden's victory - tweeted that Joe Biden "won because the Election was Rigged." It was his 9th tweet of the morning and the first time Trump has acknowledged a victory by Joe Biden even in a passing comment.

In the tweet Trump lashed out at the secrecy of the process and the involvement of the Dominion vote tabulation company, while slamming the "fake and silent" media:

NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn't even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more!


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Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 16, 2020, 12:19:02 AM
The media is using political science. Political science says that no matter about anything else, whoever talks the loudest and the mostest is right... lies or no lies. Now PS is being applied to this election and Trump by the media, just like it has been applied to evolution and the age of the Earth.


"I Concede Nothing": Trump Blasts "Fake News Media" For Saying He Conceded To Biden (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/294365-2020-11-15-i-concede-nothing-trump-blasts-fake-news-media-for-saying.htm)



In a tweet which Bloomberg and various other mainstream media outlets immediately dubbed an "apparent concession" by the president, shortly before 8am ET Trump - who has so far refused to acknowledge Biden's victory - tweeted that Joe Biden "won because the Election was Rigged." It was his 9th tweet of the morning and the first time Trump has acknowledged a victory by Joe Biden even in a passing comment.

In the tweet Trump lashed out at the secrecy of the process and the involvement of the Dominion vote tabulation company, while slamming the "fake and silent" media:

NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn't even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more!


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look how desperate these woke mob and their corrupt and hostile media are to put words into trumps mouth, to force their biden coup upon all americans so they can sell out america


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: BADecker on November 16, 2020, 12:32:00 AM

look how desperate these woke mob and their corrupt and hostile media are to put words into trumps mouth, to force their biden coup upon all americans so they can sell out america

Putting words into anyone's mouth is unsanitary, and completely against quarantine, especially in these times of Covid. Or can you sanitize the words before you put them in?

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Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 16, 2020, 12:47:32 AM

look how desperate these woke mob and their corrupt and hostile media are to put words into trumps mouth, to force their biden coup upon all americans so they can sell out america

Putting words into anyone's mouth is unsanitary, and completely against quarantine, especially in these times of Covid. Or can you sanitize the words before you put them in?

8)

they are trying to interpret stuff so they can lie to the public.

these evil democrats, why can't they simply support the republic for all people, but need to sell it out to foreigners and continue racial conflicts.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Gyfts on November 16, 2020, 12:50:06 AM
"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.

"bum equipment" because, exactly like it says, TX rejected it and for good reason. You could read about that and learn a bit.

Oh, never mind, I see you are intent on parroting the lines of the moment.

Save this post for when Biden gets inaugurated in January. I'm not parroting any lines. I wanted Trump to win, it's just time to get the fuck over it because there is literally nothing we can do to overturn the results. Trump lost too many states by too large of a margin.

I am not jumping for joy over a Biden admin and if there were a viable path for him not to be President, it'd be great. Just not the case.

What I expected. Continue the narrative, ignore the "bum equipment" issue. Well, you brought it up, you can take it down. Whatever.

If there's an issue with the bum equipment, I don't mind looking at the evidence.

The only thing that I've heard was in MI, something about 6k votes through "human error" going from Trump to Biden, but that was corrected.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.
He doesn't need to actually flip any states. All he needs to do is have state presidential elections invalidated due to problems with enough votes. If Trump can prove more ballots were illegal (due to one of many reasons) than Biden's margin of victory, the courts will either call another election or prevent the state from casting their electoral votes.

The only way I can see him actually flipping a state is via a recount, or if there was problem software used such as Dominion, and a 'manual' recount shows the vote totals were incorrect.

The chance of this happening is so insanely slim. I've tried reading into the legal arguments the Trump campaign is making trying to invalidate votes and there is just nothing there. Think Trump is more about having his lawyers go on TV prime time instead of articulating legal cases tbh. Ted Cruz has a podcast called Verdict and he said he directly called the President and advocated that he beefs up his legal team bc it's a joke.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: squatz1 on November 16, 2020, 02:33:26 AM
"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.

"bum equipment" because, exactly like it says, TX rejected it and for good reason. You could read about that and learn a bit.

Oh, never mind, I see you are intent on parroting the lines of the moment.

Save this post for when Biden gets inaugurated in January. I'm not parroting any lines. I wanted Trump to win, it's just time to get the fuck over it because there is literally nothing we can do to overturn the results. Trump lost too many states by too large of a margin.

I am not jumping for joy over a Biden admin and if there were a viable path for him not to be President, it'd be great. Just not the case.

What I expected. Continue the narrative, ignore the "bum equipment" issue. Well, you brought it up, you can take it down. Whatever.

If there's an issue with the bum equipment, I don't mind looking at the evidence.

The only thing that I've heard was in MI, something about 6k votes through "human error" going from Trump to Biden, but that was corrected.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.
He doesn't need to actually flip any states. All he needs to do is have state presidential elections invalidated due to problems with enough votes. If Trump can prove more ballots were illegal (due to one of many reasons) than Biden's margin of victory, the courts will either call another election or prevent the state from casting their electoral votes.

The only way I can see him actually flipping a state is via a recount, or if there was problem software used such as Dominion, and a 'manual' recount shows the vote totals were incorrect.

The chance of this happening is so insanely slim. I've tried reading into the legal arguments the Trump campaign is making trying to invalidate votes and there is just nothing there. Think Trump is more about having his lawyers go on TV prime time instead of articulating legal cases tbh. Ted Cruz has a podcast called Verdict and he said he directly called the President and advocated that he beefs up his legal team bc it's a joke.

The whole send your lawyers to go on TV and talk about these crazy claims is a strategy of Trumps. But not because it will influence the legal case at all, the only reason it is being done is to drum up support of Republicans to continue to support Trump, even after his term ends on Jan 20th.

Courts try NOT to invalidate legal votes. Also -- it's not even a question of conservative courts or liberal courts, no one in the courts wants to set a precedent that you can change the fate of an election just because you appointed like 200 federal judges by yourself. Also, what kind of democracy is that?

Nothing is really going to change in a Biden admin if the Senate is still red. Like, they wont be able to appoint any of the progressives to cabinet level positions nor will they be able to change tax law. Companies love that their supply chains will be back to normal, as the trade wars will most likely stop -- at least most of them will stop.



Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: BADecker on November 16, 2020, 02:43:05 AM

look how desperate these woke mob and their corrupt and hostile media are to put words into trumps mouth, to force their biden coup upon all americans so they can sell out america

Putting words into anyone's mouth is unsanitary, and completely against quarantine, especially in these times of Covid. Or can you sanitize the words before you put them in?

8)

they are trying to interpret stuff so they can lie to the public.

these evil democrats, why can't they simply support the republic for all people, but need to sell it out to foreigners and continue racial conflicts.


Well, of course. It's all about money, and control over the world to steal even more money.


More massive vote fraud laid out by WH spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany in the form of sworn affidavits Trump campaign has obtained (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-14-massive-vote-fraud-laid-out-wh-spokeswoman.html#)



As of Friday, Arizona was called for Democrat Joe Biden while North Carolina voted to reelect President Donald Trump — but that doesn’t matter because the media have already proclaimed Biden “president-elect.”

So no matter what happens now in the remaining states, Trump is simply going to lose, right?

Not so fast. We’re about to find out whether we still have some semblance of the rule of law in America or if we have become the world’s best-armed banana republic.

A day earlier, White House spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany, who is a lawyer by the way, took to Twitter to lay out the president’s case that this election was stolen from him and in a big way.

The campaign, as of this writing, has 234 pages of sworn affidavits from people who say they witnessed massive fraud in Wayne County, Mich., which is home to the Democratic-owned Detroit political machine.

In a series of tweets, McEnany asserted that eyewitnesses and voters:

— Saw a batch of ballots, 60 percent of which had the same signature;

— Watched a batch of ballots get scanned five times;

— Saw 50 ballots that were fed several times into a vote tally scanner;

— Said Jan. 1, 1900 was recorded a number of times in a poll book as a date of birth for many people who were not in the books so their ‘votes’ could be counted;

— Saw 35 ballots that were counted though they were not connected to any voting records;

— Saw ballots that were counted but did not have the required signatures or postmarks;

— Watched as poll workers made marks on ballots that did not have marks for candidates;

— Said a dead son was recorded as having voted twice;

— Saw provisional ballots (those that were not supposed to be counted yet until verified that they were legal) put in a tabulation box;

— Saw passengers drop off more ballots to polling stations than there were people in their vehicles;

— Saw ballots that were received after the Election Day deadline being postdated and counted;

— Witnessed failed voter tabulation software in Antrim County, Mich., being utilized in Wayne County;

— GOP poll watchers were ejected from ballot counting rooms and not readmitted though Democratic poll watchers were;

— GOP poll watches were physically pushed away from counting tables by election officials;

— Republican challengers were forced to remain away from counting areas but not Democrats;

— GOP challengers were subjected to racial harassment;

— Democratic ballot challengers handed out packets, “Tactics to Distract GOP Challengers”;

— Election officials covering windows so challengers were unable to observe counting;

— Election officials cheered when a Republican challenger was ejected from a tabulation room;

— Challengers were unable to observe ballot duplication processes.


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Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on November 16, 2020, 05:48:21 AM


I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.
He doesn't need to actually flip any states. All he needs to do is have state presidential elections invalidated due to problems with enough votes. If Trump can prove more ballots were illegal (due to one of many reasons) than Biden's margin of victory, the courts will either call another election or prevent the state from casting their electoral votes.

The only way I can see him actually flipping a state is via a recount, or if there was problem software used such as Dominion, and a 'manual' recount shows the vote totals were incorrect.

The chance of this happening is so insanely slim. I've tried reading into the legal arguments the Trump campaign is making trying to invalidate votes and there is just nothing there. Think Trump is more about having his lawyers go on TV prime time instead of articulating legal cases tbh. Ted Cruz has a podcast called Verdict and he said he directly called the President and advocated that he beefs up his legal team bc it's a joke.
Trump does not need to immediately make strong legal arguments, although the longer the delay, the harder it will be for him to govern if he ultimately stays president in 2021.

Trump needs to have strong legal arguments in place long enough before when the EC meets such that cases will have been able to reach the Supreme Court, and they make a ruling in his favor. Trump may make a case that would result in an initial ruling in his favor today, but Democrats might be able to find additional evidence over three weeks and make a compelling argument for an ultimate ruling in their favor.

Trump does need to have messaging to support the legitimacy of his second term if he ends up winning reelection in court. He needs to have proxies do this for him because doing so himself would expose himself to the propaganda arm of the Democratic party (the media).


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Spendulus on November 16, 2020, 01:08:04 PM

If there's an issue with the bum equipment, I don't mind looking at the evidence.

The only thing that I've heard was in MI, something about 6k votes through "human error" going from Trump to Biden, but that was corrected.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/officials-raised-concerns-for-years-about-security-of-u-s-voting-machines-software-systems/article_bec0fc86-2144-11eb-bc8c-bb85a60db758.html

The problem with voting machines in my opinion is the marketing of voting machines, in which the companies are really pressured to tout their products' wonders. When in reality, teenage hackers in mom's basement hack these things in a few minutes.

Reality is putting the machines in front of independent people and seeing how they perform, and that's what's been done at DEFcON for years.

I think a lot of that stuff is 1980s/1990s design vintage.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 16, 2020, 07:43:14 PM
It's now obvious that Donald Trump has an African root and blood in him. His behaviour is typical of politicians in Africa, a continent where politicians find it difficult accepting defeat in elections. SMH.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 16, 2020, 08:44:22 PM
It's now obvious that Donald Trump has an African root and blood in him. His behaviour is typical of politicians in Africa, a continent where politicians find it difficult accepting defeat in elections. SMH.

then african americans should have a problem voting for him


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Beparanf on November 16, 2020, 08:59:10 PM
It's now obvious that Donald Trump has an African root and blood in him. His behaviour is typical of politicians in Africa, a continent where politicians find it difficult accepting defeat in elections. SMH.

It's very hard to accept defeat if its a close fight and you know that you have a chance of winning in case there is some illegal votes occur on state that you lose. Trump won the last election with a strong majority vote so I believe he is still holding on to his loyal supporters. But as we all know, there's no way that he will not win just by accusing that he was being cheated unless he provide proof which is quite hard just.

He is now experiencing what hillary clinton feel when she lose.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 16, 2020, 09:06:26 PM
It's now obvious that Donald Trump has an African root and blood in him. His behaviour is typical of politicians in Africa, a continent where politicians find it difficult accepting defeat in elections. SMH.

It's very hard to accept defeat if its a close fight and you know that you have a chance of winning in case there is some illegal votes occur on state that you lose. Trump won the last election with a strong majority vote so I believe he is still holding on to his loyal supporters. But as we all know, there's no way that he will not win just by accusing that he was being cheated unless he provide proof which is quite hard just.

He is now experiencing what hillary clinton feel when she lose.

he will win two times, first he will become president and secondly there will be never elections again, the democrats are stupid they have no idea where they got themselves into by cheating, they lost all credibility


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: dupeddonk on November 16, 2020, 10:58:38 PM
"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.

"bum equipment" because, exactly like it says, TX rejected it and for good reason. You could read about that and learn a bit.

Oh, never mind, I see you are intent on parroting the lines of the moment.

wait.  arent you the one that just parroted back the line of the moment? 

now i'll parrot one, strait from the dep of homeland security:

There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: BADecker on November 17, 2020, 02:52:44 AM
"bum equipment"...that is an interesting choice of words from the President of the United States.

I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.

"bum equipment" because, exactly like it says, TX rejected it and for good reason. You could read about that and learn a bit.

Oh, never mind, I see you are intent on parroting the lines of the moment.

wait.  arent you the one that just parroted back the line of the moment? 

now i'll parrot one, strait from the dep of homeland security:

There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

Now you're a Homeland Security agent?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5270910.msg55589528#msg55589528

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Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 17, 2020, 08:47:02 AM
Trump won the last election with a strong majority vote so I believe he is still holding on to his loyal supporters.
There isn't any concrete evidence to that effect. It's only accusation and accusation from Trump. Pointedly, I am beginning to think that Trump also got himself rigged into office in 2016 against Hilary considering all these accusations he's making now. How will he believe that the system was manipulated against him now if he didn't find a loophole in the system and exploited that too in the past? He got sympathy votes against Hilary because Americans were fed up with the democrats then owing to the manner Obama ran the country, especially the Obamacare thing.

He is now experiencing what hillary clinton feel when she lose.
Every politician, once in a lifetime, tastes the bitter pill. It's not always rosy.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Tash on November 17, 2020, 01:59:58 PM

TRUMP WON WITH 410 ELECTORAL VOTES!!
Rep. Gohmert
https://twitter.com/dochartdc/status/1328507075044012032?s=21&fbclid=IwAR3Wndn_a-esyvqbImejvIhZZ0WlqXkRgrq4CcIe5Mw_l1d9JNEZWa1SZFE


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: squatz1 on November 18, 2020, 08:19:20 PM


I fully expect Trump to concede soon though. The lawsuits won't be going anywhere and even if he did score some victories, it won't be enough to flip entire states.
He doesn't need to actually flip any states. All he needs to do is have state presidential elections invalidated due to problems with enough votes. If Trump can prove more ballots were illegal (due to one of many reasons) than Biden's margin of victory, the courts will either call another election or prevent the state from casting their electoral votes.

The only way I can see him actually flipping a state is via a recount, or if there was problem software used such as Dominion, and a 'manual' recount shows the vote totals were incorrect.

The chance of this happening is so insanely slim. I've tried reading into the legal arguments the Trump campaign is making trying to invalidate votes and there is just nothing there. Think Trump is more about having his lawyers go on TV prime time instead of articulating legal cases tbh. Ted Cruz has a podcast called Verdict and he said he directly called the President and advocated that he beefs up his legal team bc it's a joke.
Trump does not need to immediately make strong legal arguments, although the longer the delay, the harder it will be for him to govern if he ultimately stays president in 2021.

Trump needs to have strong legal arguments in place long enough before when the EC meets such that cases will have been able to reach the Supreme Court, and they make a ruling in his favor. Trump may make a case that would result in an initial ruling in his favor today, but Democrats might be able to find additional evidence over three weeks and make a compelling argument for an ultimate ruling in their favor.

Trump does need to have messaging to support the legitimacy of his second term if he ends up winning reelection in court. He needs to have proxies do this for him because doing so himself would expose himself to the propaganda arm of the Democratic party (the media).

I'd say that because of that very reason Donald Trump and his campaign HAVE to make strong legal arguments ASAP.

They should not have started with outlandish claims and then begin searching for the evidence to back their outlandish claims. The claims should've come from evidence, not the whole 'tell me the claim and I'll find you the evidence' which is what Trump supporters were complaining about years prior in regards to the FBI / Mueller investigation.

Right now Trump just looks like a sore loser that isn't willing to accept that sometimes you lose. I know that's part of the brand though, deny deny deny and then at some point maybe it'll work. Crazy, lol.


Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: BADecker on November 20, 2020, 12:10:26 AM
Go to https://www.youtube.com/c/GatewayPunditVideo/videos and watch the videos. This is a collection of a whole pile of videos that explain in no uncertain terms exactly how the media and international forces did the election fraud... and almost got away with it.


America Saved!!! MI rescinds votes too they were threatened!.... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/294603-2020-11-19-america-saved-mi-rescinds-votes-too-they-were-threatened.htm)



Disgusting how they thought they could try this. I say string them all up. No more games, Trump should have an emergency speech, break into all media with the emergency and override all systems. Say it all and to hell with all media. Time to fight, time to arrest and time to save this nation against all enemies. Share this with everyone – all media , all legislators – anyone who was tricked into thinking Biden won.


“Drop and Roll” - How The 2020 Election Was Stolen From Donald Trump
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1_P3-Z2MV5I/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLDEZ7DHVZvwXqwBDQWYvAdhkjBVUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_P3-Z2MV5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_P3-Z2MV5I)


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Title: Re: Trump has conceded oh wait he’s not!!!
Post by: Salauddin1994 on November 20, 2020, 08:42:34 AM
Donald trump is a shining example of american success he has built a consistent benchmark of lifelong business and entrepreneurial success especially through housing sports and recreation similarly his entry into politics and public service miraculously led him to victory in the first presidential election. The incident would bring the coronavirus back to the center of controversy and could do political damage to president trump which he did not want it can be the other way around proponents of her case have been working to make the actual transcript of this statement available online. It was truly a national victory and a historic movement.